lounge

[quasi mantle]

At least in Indonesia, many academic parties still prefer Unity to this day. Unreal users were (and still are) pretty much self taught

[zinc matrix]

i think it is just university gathering money offering mediocre stuff

now studying 4 years of animation, modelling

stuff related to a specific area is neat

i think you will save more time and money asking your parents to waste money on beans and brocolis and taking your research rather than doing these general degrees

[quasi mantle]

I think it mainly stems from fearmonger that "Unreal Engine only used for bigger studios"

Which is not the case because game jam with UE is a thing, but many don't know about Unreal game jams.

[zinc matrix]

i do not see much low-poly stuff, indie stylized art being made with Unreal

[quasi mantle]

It's just hard to demistify this.

[zinc matrix]

compared to Unity...

actually if i want to delight myself with indie devs posting their stuff, i go to unity reddit

[quasi mantle]

Look no further than itch.io

[zinc matrix]

i really do not dig realistic stuff

[zinc matrix]

i mean, complete games

[pearl pewter]

damn

[quasi mantle]

Yes, there are complete games.

[zinc matrix]

not saying that is not complete games there

but usually people are re-using free assets everywhere

for me this is not art

is just someone trying to make money

[pearl pewter]

or not having the resources

[zinc matrix]

nothing against it

just not my enjoyment park

[quasi mantle]

Then I can safely assume you set your own bar too high for this.

[zinc matrix]

considering how stressful is making a game, i would look for something else to make money if this is the only objective

[quasi mantle]

I count them as legitimate as commercial games, so long as it actually plays.

[zinc matrix]

there is plenty of stylized games being released, principally in 2D

but in 3D? show me very good low poly games

astroneer?

i am digging this stuff

there is too much good art to consume to stick with cheap art and repetitive mechanics

as most of my entertainment is not from games

[quasi mantle]

Solar Ash (stylised but not exactly low poly)

[zinc matrix]

oh i do not like violence and competition too

so i exclude some stuff that should look/feel good

Biped was a nice game

Grow up

[quasi mantle]

Then I can stop here.

[zinc matrix]

phogs!

[quasi mantle]

My entertainment is from games, and I grew up playing violent games more than Nintendo/family friendly stuff.

So a clear conflict of interest not worth continuing further.

[zinc matrix]

i did it too

this non-violent and non competitive search is new to me

[quasi mantle]

I still play Doom to this day, 15 years and still going strong

[zinc matrix]

besides Forza 3 i never repeated games

but i played some mmorpg like Mu online and Tibia

which are grindy

and Dungeon Siege 1

but actually as a kid i never was able to finish

and later on i did it

[quasi mantle]

Vanilla maps are okay, but Doom now lives with custom community made maps, which I'm fucking in for them

Gotta blast them demons in new fancy and challenging megawads. If it's a slaughtermap, it can turn into bloodbath, which is satisfying to see after surviving projectile hell

Had the most hate on them chaingunners and cyberdemons in clusters, if possible, BFG them in the face as soon as possible

[zinc matrix]

i never played doom

i was mistaking it with quake

although, i really liked a short video of the creator talking about the level design of doom

and yesterday i discovered a SNES or NES game about american football still has a modding community

with updated teams and stuff

crazy

[foggy path]

OpenTTD is probably the one that I come back to most

OpenXCOM is pretty cool too

[zinc matrix]

i played the original xcom

what a heck of difficult

[foggy path]

iirc it had a bug which reset the difficulty after saving lol

to either easiest or hardest, not sure which it was

but it's tough even on easy

[zinc matrix]

it took me so much time to discover i should throw a kilo of smoked grenades to descend and not die

but i was very dumb at strategy games

except age of mythology

i was able to play online on competitive

[foggy path]

I watched a lets play of it on the max difficulty level and ironman mode where the guy basically just brought high explosives and threw them at everything

it was pretty funny lol

[zinc matrix]

not tournament but have fun and sometimes win against online people

even new xcoms are hard

have anyone played dwarf fortress

[foggy path]

yeah played it a long time ago

[zinc matrix]

me too

i really liked

but then i realized how much time i should invest to get things right

[foggy path]

lol

[zinc matrix]

i was at building caves, taverns, food, basic stuff

till some monster enters and takes all dwarfs

but people at the time were doing tutorials of how to control flow of water and have giant gardens

various mechanism of protecting yourself against hazards

felt like that people building computers with redstone on minecraft

[foggy path]

I got decently far in it a few times but yeah combat is tough

Aurora4X is another cool overly complicated game like that, it was pretty buggy though and not sure if it's gotten any better :D

[zinc matrix]

i actually can not stick long term for a game

usually games that i played a lot was because the social part of friends playing it too

i loved being on skype all night chatting

actually all i wanted is to roads be safe for bicycles so i could forget video-games and live the cycle life

lol

i still think it is an absurd mimicking life in specific ways in video-games

like people building on minecraft

why you do not learn blender and make money?

not even for the money

is way more sophisticated and quick

made for that

or the sims

[foggy path]

there's a difference in doing something productive even if you're doing sort of the same thing

[zinc matrix]

yeah but i think most video-games are not worried into building something constructive or educational

ok fine, spending the whole night gathering stones on minecraft talking to your friends

but sometimes people do it too much

i always played after getting tired of playing stuff in real life

like skating or something

real stuff has way more potential to bring you meaningful than video-games

exercise is good for health

you expose yourself to other life

idk, not that video-games are bad

but i think it is very sick young people playing fortnite or league of legends for 10 hours straight when they have opportunity

but now a an mmorpg about learning and playing music?

another ballpark than competing who kills more than the other, endless, in the same map with basically the same characters, as mono champion behaviour is very common between people who try to win

[quasi mantle]

I'm offensive and I found this casual Doom deathmatchers

(or Unreal Tournament or Quake deathmatchers for that matter)

[zinc matrix]

i am yet to find out what battlefield, ut2003 and cod showed to my life besides wasting time

maybe i played so much because my parents raised me like, you have your room, your computer, do what you want

[foggy path]

I don't really see why everything would need to have some kind of concrete benefit to your life lol

[quasi mantle]

Well, I do grew up with computers in my room, but the difference is I'm not that rigid lmao

[foggy path]

I have nothing better to do so I play games ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc matrix]

true, but i am chatting about unhealthy behaviour like playing it too much

[quasi mantle]

And hey, 24/7 of work is just asking for suicidal tendencies.

[zinc matrix]

and actually doing hobbies that are constructive are way fulfilling than doing something that is void

[foggy path]

I dunno, I found playing video games as a kid sufficiently fulfilling

I find them sufficiently fulfilling as an adult as well lol

[zinc matrix]

at least now that i am 25 and way more mature than my teen gamer version, if i could back in time i would waste way less time playing video-game

or at least no being reptitive at the same map doing the same thing

[foggy path]

I don't know what else I would have done besides playing games so I don't really have any feelings like that :P

[zinc matrix]

there is plenty of games with history

[quasi mantle]

The way you put it not only meant insulting casual deathmatchers, but also the following:

• speedrunners
• competitive players (even the pro ones)

But who gives a fuck about them peasants, am I right ladies?

[zinc matrix]

i used to cycle a lot, i still carry cycling with me

[quasi mantle]

You can say the exact same thing with sports or rewatching movies.

[zinc matrix]

i am sorry i think that is unhealthy

and suicide levels are raising each year

so something is not right and i think that plays a role

as depression, anxiety etc.

[quasi mantle]

Okay boomer

As if suicide is only caused by vidya geimz

[zinc matrix]

is a plethora of things, but ignoring it because you like is ignorant

that is in usa only

the data

[quasi mantle]

Okay okay, I'm going to bend my knees to the ones who ate lots of life's salts

🙇‍♂️

[cursive crypt]

omg

[zinc matrix]

media violence and its outcomes is considered a societal concern

there is decades of research concluding that

is not that someone will kill itself because video-games or violent books

but they are a concern to resolve

and i am not typing that they should stop existing

[quasi mantle]

You know way more than me, a 23 year old that plays and makes video game, so I bow down to thee, m'lord.

[zinc matrix]

most of people are probably fine playing violent stuff

but in a society of 7 billion that builds up

[foggy path]

Tbh I don't think video games or any specific hobby like that, in excess or not, is a cause for depression

[quasi mantle]

If you excuse me, I gotta finish this slaughtermap I'm trying to complete without dying, because I'm run out of ideas and I'm stressed enough for the day.

[foggy path]

There are many much bigger contributors to mental health problems, and videogames are more of an escape from that reality for most than something that actively triggers it

[zinc matrix]

anything in excess is a problem, no mater if it is video-games or not

usually

probably water and brocollis no

[foggy path]

Yeah, but excessive videogames is not the cause - it's a symptom

[quasi mantle]

Boomer minds will disagree tho, but eh, whatever

[foggy path]

You don't need to start calling him a boomer for having a difference of opinion

He wasn't being rude

[zinc matrix]

it is a cause, maybe alone in a perfect society, will affect like less than 5% of the population, who knows; but we do not live in a perfect world so violent media should be treated accordingly

[foggy path]

I've never heard of videogames being a cause for it, other than from people like Jack Thompson

[zinc matrix]

i usually avoid to discussing that in gamer community, as my experience of raising this thing usually ends with people thinking i am ignorant or something

but if you really do your research you will find WAY more studies concluding something negative about competitive stuff and violent too

[foggy path]

I think excessively violent videogames could be a problem for younger teens and children - but I don't think it's an issue for adults

[zinc matrix]

and some research, on both sides, sometimes is very bad executed, so be aware of going out reading titles and concluding stuff

[zinc matrix]

definitely, but it is not just violent behaviour influence, there is a lot of other stuff happening when you see violent content, from being desensitized to help, to increased nightmares and consequently, if you are prone to, be more anxious in your routine

[foggy path]

Yeah it's possible, I've heard about things like that for sure. It's a difficult topic because it's so dependent on the specific person

[zinc matrix]

the hole goes deeper and research is not even at the tip of major conclusions to ban politically violence in media, as you typed, is not the biggest factor and it lies at one of the most light regarding stuff like hunger, underpaid work etc etc.

[foggy path]

This is why age ratings are important I think, but as an adult, you should be able to make these decisions for yourself if you find the content you consume is not suitable for yourself

but on the overall topic of mental illness and such, I think there are significantly larger contributors to that than videogames, and before you can address issues potentially caused by videogames, you need to address the larger ones or you're likely to get false conclusions

[quasi mantle]

Let's ignore the fact that mental illness can come from societal pressure, shitty parenting, stigma on seeking for help, stigmas caused by faked mental disabilities for monetary gains/scams, shitty regulations on mental health treatments, lack of general finance to afford treatments, etc. etc.

[zinc matrix]

in an adult scenario is most likely a violent game will help people discharge tension hehe

[zinc matrix]

and video-games and they should not be ignored just because there is major things rolling on

[quasi mantle]

These societal problems are totally aren't things that exist, and it's more of a "you problem", correct?

[foggy path]

I don't really know why you're being so aggressive against him here... he never denied they were problems :P

[zinc matrix]

what do you expect? american people praising the office as the best sitcom of modern times and it is a film about joking about others people defects and being a prick to others? then you do expect good parenting?

[quasi mantle]

I maybe overdefensive over this shit, but I had shitty parenting causing me slew of mental issues over the years.

Sorry, but video game have helped prevent me from actual suicide attempts.

[zinc matrix]

what we are consuming do not affect who we are know..

[zinc matrix]

i am not saying that short dopamine shots do not work, medication works like this and they help suicide

[foggy path]

The Office isn't so bad tbh. Friends is way worse because they try to have like believable characters and such

I rewatched Friends recently and it was like "this isn't even funny" lol

[zinc matrix]

it is so sexist

[rugged jetty]

It’s prob the nostalgia for people

[foggy path]

The Office's characters and situations are much more absurd and less realistic, so it feels more like a comedy sketch so you can have a laugh at it

[zinc matrix]

still uses offensive language

[foggy path]

I don't really have a problem with that myself

[zinc matrix]

is not about being constructive the whole time, it is just that the vast majority of entertainment is fucked with violence and offensive, competitive stuff

that reflects society

a cause that start to become a motif

[foggy path]

I don't know if that's entirely true

[zinc matrix]

again, i think it is cool to be aware of these stuff

removing this type of media is not healthy

[foggy path]

People are able to differentiate between entertainment and reality, but certainly if all you see is like that then it might have an effect

[zinc matrix]

but thriving it as it is nothing is just ignorant

[foggy path]

which is kinda evident on social media where people are just shouty and angry a lot

it's like.. you wouldn't talk to a person like this face to face so why are you being a dick here

[zinc matrix]

idk what took me to mention that

and again, i am not defending with me teeth the cause

being aware of things is really cool as it open space for new things

[foggy path]

yeah

[zinc matrix]

sometimes it is just uncomfortable but that is fine

life is not about a extensive joy

at least not for humans that are not descendants of budha, as far my observations goes

[zinc matrix]

at least until we start populating planets with cooperative stuff and developing vehicles for pigs and rats

and vegan food everywhere

kekeke

i pointed out suicide rates increasing but someone corrected me and it is actually lowering worldwide

[foggy path]

you can kinda see patterns in the chart... it was highest during the big 90s financial crisis and has gone steadily down since, except during the 2000s financial crisis :P

[burnt lake]

more people are coming back to life

[thick belfry]

Made a debug menu for my game today

So worth it

[foggy path]

I have some features for that which I added as console commands and into the gameplay debugger

Can be quite useful yeah

[half spruce]

hey, i dont know where to write this, i have a problem with steam, we made our game public right now, but it show publish date as "march 2022" without a day, even when we set a full date in system, any ideas?

[foggy path]

afaik you can just fill whatever you want into the release date box, have you checked that it has the right thing in it?

[wooden sapphire]

Why do I need to replicate an inventory, if the server adds items to the inventory and spawns items from the inventory, what happens inside the inventory is irrelevant then.

[foggy path]

Seems like a question for #multiplayer , but if the server adds stuff into the inventory then it seems you would need to replicate that information to clients or they wouldn't know that stuff was added into them

[timber viper]

Programmer: Micro optimizes the code carefully to make the fps even higher on low-end devices
Artist: My gigantic amount of dynamic lights will go brrr in this scene 😈

[foggy path]

my favorite thing to do in Ready or Not lobby is to drop chemlights

you can drop an infinite amount of them and each is a dynamic lightsource, so it makes the framerate take a huge dump eventually lol

[median wraith]

I thought the mid one where the tech artist

Anyway I always liked dogs more

[narrow patrol]

Human eyes dont have "frames" of input like computers do, we see constantly. People like to abstract the question of what FPS we see into measurable things, like what's the shortest frame that we can pick up, or at what flicker rate do humans report a non-constant image. But those measures leave something on the table as well, which is that our eyes are evolved for specific tasks, and when it's a task we're good at like tracking moving targets, increasing FPS can make it look smoother (with diminishing returns) up to absurd values

[median wraith]

What you did...

Actually someone said the eye cannot see up 800fps and such

[carmine frigate]

mayB its not the eye but the wires and u can replace em with better ones

[tulip orbit]

Reminds me of blueprints
https://imgur.com/gallery/wsu6fXb

[last matrix]

and the right amount of comment boxes too

[tulip orbit]

None?

[deep glen]

<_<

[last matrix]

i thought i saw a little one in there somewhere....

[tulip orbit]

Thats probably just the default bubble comment on event tick

[median wraith]

Who sent you this show-reel of the marketplace ?

[last matrix]

on the bright side, it prevents reverse engineering

[tribal cipher]

btw guys, whats the best way to start a group project?

like, if i make my game good enough, will people jump on board to help me build it?

[last matrix]

its possible, being a leader with people skills also helps (usually)

[tribal cipher]

aaand where should i start?

for instance, i want it to be people from my state , mostly at least

[last matrix]

have you ever led a team before?

[tribal cipher]

nope

[last matrix]

have you been a part of a team?

[tribal cipher]

well, not in gamedev

[tribal cipher]

yes

a two man one

[last matrix]

alright, so you have led a team then?

forget game dev for a moment

[median wraith]

exposure

You will get paid in exposure until you have a good eye adaptation

[tribal cipher]

well, now that i think about it no not really

[last matrix]

when you were on a team, did others join after you did? and was there already people on the team you joined?

[tribal cipher]

well, if you count teamwork at work, yeah

[last matrix]

i would, as a team you are pushing towards the same goal

[tribal cipher]

ok then, ive been in a lot of teams if thats the case lol

[last matrix]

great

what did you learn from your manager/leader/or other seniors?

[tribal cipher]

managers should be like a thermostate, not let anything/anyone heat up , and not let stuff slow down too much

they should be excellent at what they do

in such to set an example for others

they should be dedicated

[last matrix]

good advice, sounds like you had good leaders to learn from

[tribal cipher]

yessir

[last matrix]

so in hiring/building this team, what's your need for doing so?

[median wraith]

Not even less than the half spend outside from Fortnite

[last matrix]

lol 840m just from fortnite? i cant think of any other epic games out XD

[tribal cipher]

well, i figured that i could achieve a lot more if i had 2/3 people working alongside me, as my progress is going pretty slow

[median wraith]

840 - 300 = fortnite

[tribal cipher]

i could build games better/faster, and i wont have to do it alone

potentially

[celest musk]

good luck

i guess it's not easy to get a team of experienced people together

[last matrix]

its possible, though it would slow down since you have to direct these people in what they are doing, keep them motivated (getting payed for time is a pretty good one, but there are other ways too), and make sure they are doing the right stuff and not half-assing (even if paid)

[last matrix]

to not do something alone sounds like it would help keep you motivated, which is not ideal, you should have motivation to work on it regardless

small groups need to get along very well, you cant hide from one another and drama does need to be addressed right away

you'd not be doing as much work on the project as you would be supporting them to do the work for you

[timber viper]

keep them motivated
We offered 2x of the usual wage for a very experienced lead programmer that has a popularity around AAA industry and he rejected because we were a small inexperienced team. Sometimes its hard to motivate people lol

[celest musk]

several reasons for that

[tribal cipher]

ah I see

[last matrix]

lol yeah, see what Ben said

my mind was swimming with reasons lol

i dont disagree, but im sure there's more than just that

[celest musk]

a.) he doesn't want to give away knowledge for 2x the usual salary
b.) he doesn't want to end up as teacher
c.) cats

[last matrix]

its a good point

[deep glen]

especially c)

[timber viper]

I'd reject too though

[tribal cipher]

so i should i just keep working alone for now?

[last matrix]

i was gunna say that they see it as a downgrade, but it felt a bit mean to say it 😄

[celest musk]

also depends on the size of your project, maybe just outsource some tasks

[tribal cipher]

yeah but you see

[celest musk]

specially animation/modelling and such can be outsourced quite well

[last matrix]

keep working alone? that's up to you. You can build a team if you like, but it sounds more of wanting to be around others to keep you around that atmosphere

[quasi mantle]

Depends on your funding and leadership

[last matrix]

thats sorta this channel, but a little more distance here

you can meet some great people here though

[tribal cipher]

yeah ig

[last matrix]

and maybe some you get along well enough that you decide to do something together

[quasi mantle]

Because the last thing I had enough with is worker abuse, where employers give uncompensated crunch time.

[last matrix]

but so far all the smarties on here have their own direction

[timber viper]

#cpp is full of bored seniors, and they provide free help.. It's like heaven if you think about 2010s standarts 😄

[celest musk]

nah, i'm around there, too^

[tribal cipher]

lmao

[last matrix]

the newbies want to learn and are hungry to be a part of a team, but i think that expectation is to get trained because thats what being in a team means (which is not what it means)

[quasi mantle]

It broke my sleep pattern for a long while, and I eventually quit from that job after I reached my worst sleep deprivations and stacking up on debt.

[tribal cipher]

damn man

[quasi mantle]

So yeah, be reasonable as an employer, and be sure they get paid well.

[tribal cipher]

yeah i was more thinking of a group to learn together as well as build

[last matrix]

hard part there is clash of ideas

[tribal cipher]

like , work on a game jam

[last matrix]

everyone is an idea-person, they want to get their idea out - and it's not that smooth

there is the #game-jam-lfg lol

[tribal cipher]

ifg?

[celest musk]

a game jam might be a good event to explore how well you work as a team

[last matrix]

looking for group

[tribal cipher]

oh lol

[last matrix]

at least that has a better sense of "we are all looking to work on something"

rather than "i want to get people on my team"

see the difference?

[tribal cipher]

yeah

[quasi mantle]

Do keep in mind that competitive game jams have short time, you have to get them all on board for the crunch.

[last matrix]

as the want to make a game does not last long, plus dragging it out is not fun for those who want to move on to something else (for one reason or another)

[quasi mantle]

Also make sure the equipment is actually blazing fast enough for nightly builds. Using mid-end hardware is just asking for forfeiting later

Which is why I think competitive game jams, with prize at stake and short time, is not ideal for those starting out. Better take more relaxed leaning game jam where the goal is mainly getting the game out there with the theme.

I learned my mistake, never take competitive game jams again.

My mistake when joining EMJ last year was that everything else around me was not up to snuff for the compo. Below high end equipment, power outages, family businesses, bad internet connection, etc. I should've really know it would happen and just forget the jam existed, even though the prize is worth hundreds of dollars.

[tribal cipher]

I see

aaaand i just fixed my ai

mute the audio though

know i need to make him shoot and stuff

[verbal junco]

apparently the concept of getting "pwned" existed in the past

[zinc matrix]

someone enlighten me a bit

so i have these fruits lying around, it is intended to player take them and then cook with it. all by animations. does it better to instance the skeletal version of the fruit when it is used on the kitchen rather than having the skeletal one, too, growing up on the garden?

as it can build up to more than 300 fruits

does animation loads on memory or stay idle and only load when it is called to play?

[quasi mantle]

If the fruits were stacked on the table, you can use IK to position the hand dynamically.

[tulip orbit]

My dialogue system seems to work. Which is very suspicious. 🤔

[zinc matrix]

Is it still worth making mobile games for passive income?

Or is the market too saturated?

[quasi mantle]

Probably, but you can always have anime waifu for marketing boost 💸

Also some gambling mechanics to unlock even more waifu

No, really, those waifus and the visual appeal is what makes mobile games sell, even the most mundane gameplay

[zinc matrix]

So have you made and sold mobile games like that?

[tulip orbit]

I'm sure i'll find bugs once I do more tests, if I bother

[bronze axle]

New album from Carpenter Brut coming April 1.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/music/3700964/carpenter-brut-return-with-horror-themed-leather-terror-album-and-nightmarish-video-for-single-imaginary-fire/

[unreal cedar]

First track is out now too

[fathom wadi]

new Lawnmower Deth album is out tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bme5gzHHYpw

[quasi mantle]

No, I'm still focusing on PC and console, but I've seen how those kind of games sell like hotcakes in MTs

[unreal ether]

ngl lemonade at 1am hits different

[timber viper]

Wow we can play RA2 on web browsers now: https://game.chronodivide.com/

[quasi mantle]

This still require original copy of the game, right?

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-business-gif-13484994

Mfw when I got a $10 Coupon from Epic Games

(I dunno what to do about it)

[tulip orbit]

buy an $80 game for $70

cause you save $10!

[knotty skiff]

I dunno what to do about the coupon sorry I'm such a Steam user

I only use EGS for free games and fortnite even unreal

Still using steam because workshop

[tulip orbit]

I dont even grab most of the free games cause they dont interest me :/

I just dont like epic's store/library. its not very user friendly

[celest musk]

i'm not playing many different games, but enjoyed Mutant Year Zero quite a lot (which was free on one of those december giveaway days)

[knotty skiff]

Controversial Act

[tulip orbit]

that seems likely to cause some sort of curse on your household, raise demons and such

[wicked saddle]

Hello frens :3

[raw pendant]

yo

Anyone know good tutorials for making vfx in unreal engine as a beginner

[wicked saddle]

@raw pendant https://realtimevfx.com/ - There's an entire community around that.

[raw pendant]

Cheers

[wicked saddle]

How is everyone doing? ^^

[raw pendant]

do you happen to know a vfx tutorial that starts from scratch on how to make anything in general? like lightning a slash or just something like that

[last matrix]

sup

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/there-cheer-up-buttercup-it-gif-21613666

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/skinwalker-1v1-local-deer-fight-deer-boxing-gif-24034383

[zinc matrix]

so the terror begins

i would be so glad i started making this game at age of 6

[timber viper]

You can play the demo, but yes

[deep glen]

looks like a setup for a biblical angel

[deep glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImIA8eVlojY
lol, lets use the metahuman rig on ziva XD

[zinc matrix]

god did not told me that i can not play minecraft all day long if i want to become a indie dev

😔

if i knew it from the start...

at least you know some stuff on how to make games

not just "so I had this idea but I have no desire to learn"

hehe

i just learned i need to use extensively bone constraints

a shame they do not work like i think

but i got the idea of blender mind

[inland oriole]

Make a minecraft clone and work on that 😉

[zinc matrix]

breakable blocks may be a nice way to make player collect minerals

i really dig playstyle of a game called steamworld i think

[tulip orbit]

Steamworld was awesome

[tulip orbit]

I keep adding systems to my game, but not sure I can call it a game yet

[zinc matrix]

i never played but i played some similar on ipod touch back in the days

idk if i will implement this type of 2d platform thing

but would be just as a suggestion that you got what you wanted

[tulip orbit]

Steamworld isnt alone in its genre, but its a really good example

[zinc matrix]

Same man

not much fancy, i am building a walking simulator

I wake up and think "I will add something else" instead of "I will make a game"

hehehe

I guess it's just knowing what to keep

i will feel if i cut the mechanics or not when building it

so far so good, i shoved a lot of game intend scope from a year ago

[inland oriole]

What is it you’re trying to make? Or is it unannounced 🙂

[tulip orbit]

I want to try and build my game from the start of the game, and expand naturally as I think of story(I only have a very rough outline right now)

[zinc matrix]

i do not want to chat about what genre it will mix but i will try to make some walking simulator and linear plot about robots learning music theory along the way

as they live on a spaceship

making them eating food and managing vegetables on the garden and chatting will be a total blast for me already

but i think i got a year or 2

to go

[pearl elk]

eating simulator

[zinc matrix]

basically real life

mimicker

[quasi mantle]

Just don't force people with anorexia to play it.

[zinc matrix]

hmm

a gain weight mechanic would be cool

is on the list now

kekeke

i was thinking in adding nutrient requirement but i could not find a way to be fun and educative

as low poly fruits that i am making barely relate to real world stuff so it would end like just unnecessary variable status

[tulip orbit]

change them to cheeseburgers

[zinc matrix]

lab meat is a thing!

but they do not need real animal placenta to happen

we are on the on future

~50,000 years after 2022

strangely, they prefer fungi protein with vegetables in between

but now, real life speaking

growing isolated fungi or plantae protein in lab just read delicious

imagine mixing beans, soybeans and some mushroom beef in lab conditions

O.O

What about just eating a different source of protein

[tulip orbit]

like people!

[cursive crypt]

meatballs, that's what I think a robot from Knights of the Old Republic was saying.

[red pewter]

meatbags?

[cursive crypt]

Was that?

Sounds about better. More elegant.

... talking meatbags, just watched Attack on Titan 😓

[pearl elk]

a bag made of meat

[tulip orbit]

arent we all just talking meatbags?

[pearl elk]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/jXRM8_j9lscaYynf8xKqDQ_GHDo=/0x21:528x318/1600x900/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/45418086/2011-05-Chanel-Bag-Beef-Jerky.0.jpg

beef jerky bag

[zinc matrix]

i think i understand what you mean.. when the person go through the hell and santa klaus ask it to test all bones weights to see if one can make a salad?

[deep glen]

@zinc matrix
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcpoR3KXgAALvzt?format=png&name=large

[zinc matrix]

why my owl is playing with instagram kaleidoscope filter again

[cursive crypt]

How much time it needs to boil? I would recommend a bit of pepper at the end too.

[pearl elk]

comes with a matching purse incase you need a snack

[cursive crypt]

But where the coins will be put?

[pearl elk]

in your bitcoin wallet

[cursive crypt]

Understandable.

[pearl elk]

if you have any of those strange metal objects, they can be used as fuse replacements

[cursive crypt]

I don't want to melt my cables.

The other day, I changed one.

[quasi mantle]

Yes, but medical side of things could benefit first

[cursive crypt]

It was buzzing as soon as I turned on the heater. Like 3 Kw of consumption.

[quasi mantle]

I think there's already some experiment with lab meat basis to make transplant organs, reducing the gamble doctors get from donor organs

[zinc matrix]

we successfully implemented a pig heart into a human already

idk if it is fake or not but i pop out somewhere

[devout fog]

Hey

Have a question

Would i be able to work with blender on intel core m5-6Y54 (2cores 1.1-2.7ghz) and intel hd 515

[foggy path]

Depends on how complex models you'd work on I guess

If you wanted to do renders that probably wouldn't be the best, but for modeling stuff that would probably work at least to some degree

[median wraith]

Do someone knows how can get the effective forward horizontal vector from a made rot in vertical ?

[cursive crypt]

Hev, why you are working? Take a break, it is Friday.

[median wraith]

lol

Will tell that to the client

[cursive crypt]

Also, what do you understand by hor vector, the dot of the rot?

[devout fog]

@zinc matrix haven't tested cuz can't, so looking for thoughts if it would work, then i'll ask to bring me that pc

Idea learning making models for UE4

[cursive crypt]

In fact, I will hate to direct to #blueprint tho prolly everyone there is a dead person. A kingdom of necromancy.

[median wraith]

asked on C++ actually

I'm getting no sense rotations for some reason

[cursive crypt]

Ah, that totally valid.

Well, it is 3 angles, what is so much about it?

[median wraith]

but technically the whole thing is valid

[cursive crypt]

I will be blunt, I didn't looked at it.

[median wraith]

for example on first instance in the player controller I have set the Control Rotation directly

it correctly moves to the cursor location

but then at get it to move/push directions on the pawn all is a nightmare

and the pawn start to do 180 rotations

even the camera vibrates

idk all this is kinda weird

oh I see whats going on

maybe*

the forward is up I bet ?

[cursive crypt]

Draw it

[median wraith]

wait what

not even the rotation works when you move lmao

[median wraith]

I think the issue is how I get the forward direction

[tulip orbit]

is this how you're getting forward vector?

[cursive crypt]

I usually walk forward.

[median wraith]

No, the get cursor location is returning random directions when I move

[cursive crypt]

Are you guys, measuring your blueprints in open, public channel?

[timid relic]

So, this is how git push --force <branch> looks like.

[foggy path]

https://giphy.com/gifs/poseonfx-pose-posefx-on-fx-VDMJiC5jMZuZ9Xbp6e

all my servers are configured to deny --force

[median wraith]

does someone knows the name of the command for time dilatation ?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/sp-gif-21664439

[foggy path]

isn't it just time 0.5 or such 🤔

[cursive crypt]

🐇 > 🐢

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-mad-angry-furious-rage-gif-3962583

[median wraith]

turns out that function I was using don't return the cursor correctly

[median wraith]

really? I was looking for dilatation etc

[timid relic]

But do your servers allow branch deletion? If yes, what's the point blocking force-push if delete+normal push will result in exactly the same outcome?

[foggy path]

Good point :P

[median wraith]

oh man is amazing how even the most simple thing is super complex

[cursive crypt]

The <@&213101288538374145>

[median wraith]

man I wanted he to go first

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, they were first.

[lone lance]

how do I stop my camera pitch effecting the speed of my player character

[foggy path]

Calculate forward direction along an axis parallel to the ground

instead of on camera forward vector

[cursive crypt]

Ask on better channel?

[foggy path]

also that lol

[zinc matrix]

what is the appeal of a Diablo style inventory nowadays?

i mean, those squared-volume ones

i am not following the actual game scene, what does modern looters look like today?

[foggy path]

More or less like that I guess

[zinc matrix]

interesting...

[foggy path]

at least I feel like I've seen that style of inventory in a bunch of games

[zinc matrix]

i was thinking if a list is not better than icons like that

[foggy path]

Yeah, it seems it would be simpler

Although with this the object shape affects where it can fit. If it was a list with a purely numerical carry limit, then the object shape would have no effect

So perhaps there's that

[zinc matrix]

mini-puzzle

or you are saying RPG characters are dumb and cannot fit things in their backpacks?

i dig the mini-icons

but in the long term, a list feels more friendly

if player is using extensively

Epic released one for free but i did not touch it yet

[median wraith]

mmm what ?

[carmine frigate]

RTs are not that bad

everything is a rendertarget

well u allready have roughness metalic, subsurf basecol

can at least use lowest bit 😛

a camera depth test is gunna cost more

if u wunna get real about it you feed the coords into the materials and mask out the fog like that

[cursive crypt]

render bits obfuscator

[carmine frigate]

did a few test with painting UVs on meshes in VR, could paint 4k render targets no prob

the get UV coords from hit result is prolly more heavy and not on gpu

[timber viper]

See Undungeon's UI

Pretty much a little modern approach to same philosophy

[median wraith]

Were looking to replicate render targets

but well...

[median wraith]

is there something interesiting in the market to spend 10€?

[craggy hatch]

Put a lot of effort into this

[quasi mantle]

Not enough spaghetti

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/hPeCD7R.jpg

there you go

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-7929301

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/pedicure-bad-gif-14875325

[broken sigil]

Why.... 😑

[timber viper]

...

[last matrix]

So thats what that side is for.. 🧀 🥕 🥒 🦶

[zinc matrix]

cheese is way worse than this gifs

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smelling-owner-feet-puke-face-stinky-feet-smelly-feet-puke-face-cat-gif-12288562

i bought a 2400 ram instead of a 2666 😐

[last matrix]

See above cat

[zinc matrix]

they are a couple

15 rigged fruits and feels like i climbed the 14 8,000 meter peak of the world and Manaslu twice

does a mechanic of multiplayer that matches the server latency for all player according to the average latency of all player calculated makes sense?

[left granite]

😣

[zinc matrix]

i.e. there is 2 ppl with 100ms and one enters with 350ms, the server start ticking updates for everyone at 183.333ms

in a style of turn-based but the turns actually are the average ping of all connected

lol i read my stuff then i understand some flaws

at least the idea of taking the longer ping and setting as the turn update feels nice

grid based, conflict between selecting the same space

(nothing happens, you are just moved next to it if other is closer to move to it)

i am hearing a podcast of game dev. of 6 years ago and they are ranting people that are saying VR will be the thing

hehehe

interesting that all 3 worked in the industry for decades

"there is people already doing cinema cinematics with unreal"

[tulip orbit]

using a video game engine for cinema? that'll never take off

[knotty skiff]

What have they done!

[quasi mantle]

What
The
Fuck

[quasi mantle]

Is this official? I haven't updated my HL2 installation

[verbal junco]

what's wrong with the new version? am I missing something?

[quasi mantle]

Panorama UI, most likely going to be Steam Deck ready version (as it has small screen, the old UI won't hold up in it)

I don't think they merge the Update version into the master HL2 version

[knotty skiff]

Yep

Now with 4K Text

[verbal junco]

can't the resolution be changed?

[unreal cedar]

It's very clearly not for general use. Even on the specific beta branch it's available on it isn't the default UI - you need to pass something on the command line that I can't remember (something about gamepads)

Unless they pushed an update and changed it.

[wicked saddle]

hey friends, hows your evening?

[knotty skiff]

Fine

[cursive crypt]

Leaving for morning shopping, when there are no ppl in the grocery.

[knotty skiff]

No people??

Liminal moment

[knotty skiff]

You have entered the Lone World

[zinc matrix]

it's summer holidays still?

can't even tell what season it is

[jagged rain]

he hangout guys someone there

[zinc matrix]

which state

the semi-autonomous region of western australia

[tall jacinth]

hey guys, what does this "My Website" visibility option mean? Does it mean my artstation page, with the "ArtStation" option referring to the general site instead of my own artstation page?

or does "my website" mean my actual website linked in my profile

[cursive crypt]

Where is this even from?

And what is all this about?

[cursive crypt]

Insert Random()

If it is random enough, it becomes valid in details, but invalid as whole.

Or vice-versa.

[zinc matrix]

Huh.

I suppose so

But before someone argues "but it's the most spoken form of english" I just want to say enough people getting the answer wrong doesn't make it correct

Of course I don't really care as english can be whatever it wants

[zinc matrix]

Yes you can't get any less consistent

[knotty skiff]

First time animating (I don't know what this is)

[zinc matrix]

that's looking pretty good

My only feedback would the recoil, it looks too soft

how much is a big mac

I can't remember

[cursive crypt]

Never in my life I imagined I will like a pie with apples and onions.

[zinc matrix]

Were the onions caramelised? And was it a sweet pie or a savoury pie?

[cursive crypt]

Not caramelised, maybe savoury? There were carrots and corn.

But it is still sweet due to these carbs.

[sullen quiver]

ipch

[zinc matrix]

🇨 🇵 🅿️

[sudden pewter]

https://imgur.com/9ZJkPvV

[median wraith]

lol

[verbal junco]

🤔

[fluid bloom]

snowapocalypse is upon us

[median wraith]

Got a water plugin from the marketplace and is the first time I seriously use it

The one that cost like 400€

And tbh the overall looks nice until you notice all the effects are equal and cannot be controlled ?

[cursive crypt]

They highly scaled too. Ee... water sim is too much math.

[median wraith]

There is an example from Epic on content examples and is just a draw thing but it creates a normal and all water alike

Maybe will use that

the flow seems kinda correct

[cursive crypt]

Are you preferring the free version over that 400$ work?

[median wraith]

It seems like yeah

I don't even need tessellation

didn't tried the epic one at all

but the rendering is more clever than this one

[zinc matrix]

https://github.com/UE4-OceanProject/Environment-Project

how about this one?

i found it before getting into bed yesterday…

hello, just wanted to ask. i'm starting game developing and i wanted to ask if macbook air 13 m1 16gb ram will do for unreal engine, i want to build and model stuff, make terrain and other stuff (no coding)

[cursive crypt]

Congrats, Hev, you are free from the chains of money.

[zinc matrix]

i think you are better suited in #hardware

oh thanks

[cursive crypt]

#hardware but if your maps are small and that mac-whatever has very good gpu, you can manage.

[zinc matrix]

yeah but without fan system won't it overheat?

[cursive crypt]

Then break in the heads of Apple because, what usage of a laptop which can't perform under stress?

[zinc matrix]

why you need a mac? if all software you want is on windows, you provably will get more juice out of your money…

[median wraith]

This gone too far

[cursive crypt]

No, more.

[zinc matrix]

i finally got a good night sleep today

i removed 2 days of delay

[mossy nexus]

A man is shipwrecked on a deserted island. He has everything he needs to survive, plenty of food, blankets, wood, only items he has are his boots, trousers, shirt, jacket, a hat and a packet of cigarettes. He doesn't have any means of creating a flame.

A short while later, he has cooked some food over a bonfire, and is relaxing and smoking a cigarette.

How?

🙂

[verbal junco]

magic, duh

[cursive crypt]

Where you are playing that?

[cursive crypt]

You need to return it back as no one else can use it meanwhile.

[tulip orbit]

its just deleted for you. You'll never see, hear or touch it ever again, even if its right in front of you

[unborn lotus]

Probably some lame answer like he throws away his hats and now he's lighter 🔥

[verbal junco]

he goes super saiyan perhaps

[median wraith]

@cursive crypt Wanted to get a housefly but wow even that's a luxury this days

[cursive crypt]

You can do many things with that fly.

[cursive crypt]

That fly more complex than half main chars out there.

[median wraith]

what game is that ?

Husbandry bet means you can procreate

isn't the name of the animal

👀

not sure if you mean that

oh

Even the most simple game feels like the biggest nightmare todo

[cursive crypt]

husbandry = the cultivation or production of plants or animals
Long before husbands were hen-pecked guys who cut the grass on weekends and played with the kiddies after school, they were robust men of the Earth — farmers, in other words.

However!

The English word husband, even though it is a basic kinship term, is not a native English word. It comes ultimately from the Old Norse word hūsbōndi, meaning "master of a house,"

So I understand animal husbandry, taking care of the animals in the house.

Or maybe making animals master of the house.

Don't play that game ponkkis, it will be illegal, poor animals.

okay, imma not goin to shame

Old English did have a feminine word related to Old Norse hūsbōndi that meant "mistress of a house," namely, hūsbonde. Had this word survived into Modern English, it would have sounded identical to husband—surely leading to ambiguities.

TIL

[median wraith]

Horror is an old genre now at itch

now goes pure +18

[cursive crypt]

nah 😅

Can't be, not and hev

[median wraith]

lol

I don't think so

[cursive crypt]

wife = Old English wīf; related to Old Norse vīf (perhaps from vīfathr veiled)

Turns out, veiled. Might fuel up future war.

[mossy nexus]

Close! 😄 He throws away a cigarette.

[median wraith]

When I see someone in the marketplace releasing as different content the v1 and v2 of the same product just updated

is someone I won't even purchase

[zinc matrix]

Yeah cause next thing you know V3 will be out soon

[median wraith]

"Save years of work"

[mossy nexus]

Sure. As long as all those blueprints are already set up correctly.. what's the problem? 😄

And by multiplayer I'm just going with more than one player 😄

[foggy path]

Save years of work by not making a game

[median wraith]

idk just watching the marketplace for deals today

Seems like they sell a service

rather than a plugin

after pay the 300€

[cursive crypt]

Why pay once, when multiple times is better?

[median wraith]

ha

There are no many rogelike templates it seems

I thought everyone liked that

[cursive crypt]

No? Maybe the game which made them make these to begin with is now old?

[half spruce]

thank you, i found it!

another question, im making a localization to my game and i have a problem to setup fonts to work with different langauges, where can i find to which langauge family my language belongs?

talking about this

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: ricardoferro#2661 was banned.

[median wraith]

oh what I missed a code ?

[cursive crypt]

You can always ask the mods for a personal ban, I suppose.

[tulip orbit]

more fun ways to get a ban than asking 🙂

[median wraith]

Got a pack that epic removed from the market where the whole world is a single charactermesh

[tulip orbit]

if I told you, i'd get banned

https://i.imgur.com/ULqMV1T.gif

[signal citrus]

Pasta

[median wraith]

Mama mia

[signal citrus]

[median wraith]

I'm in the feel that no one of my game projects is ever a good idea at the end, so for some reason I drop them all always

but never happen to me with tools

[signal citrus]

Make the locked environment free to play but have this thing called the asset store for people to spend on cosmetics

[median wraith]

I'm too stupid to make these games based on tools/puzzles

[median wraith]

You mean UE4 ?

[signal citrus]

No something that makes sure no one ever finishes any prototype

[median wraith]

oh then you mean Cryengine

[signal citrus]

Hmmm I don’t know cryengine well enough

But it does have c# in it

So likely yeah

[median wraith]

And they fall from toolboxes rather than airplanes

[median wraith]

how dare you ?
C# is golden

[signal citrus]

https://youtu.be/MHdF7p4tJN8

[median wraith]

So how are you doing man ? @signal citrus

[signal citrus]

Doing well but lots of stress

You been okay?

[median wraith]

Me too a lot of stress....

About the rest fine

[signal citrus]

Good good

[median wraith]

what happen if we combine the stress ? can we get like the final def weapon ?

[signal citrus]

I think so

But idk about wielding it

[cursive crypt]

I have no stress, but still not fine.

Or... maybe I'm stressed, I just don't know it 🤔

[signal citrus]

I tend to think it’s different for everyone

Posture is important anyways, I had a sore left arm and mistook it for heart failure

But I think stress caused the panic around the situation

[median wraith]

aside from a panic attack I didn't had that issues, feels bad

I have to make a template for the marketplace of fake nitros or something

[cursive crypt]

okay

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: emiiq#0375 was banned.

[inland oriole]

Welcome to, probably, a lot of scam links going around Discord 😅

[quasi mantle]

No wonder the name looked familiar 🤔

[cursive crypt]

One more lost to the evil.

How much he made?

[ocean parcel]

hi guys whats up

[cursive crypt]

awkward silence

[ocean parcel]

oh hey it's ponkkis!

i recognise you

and TheHoodieGuy!

[cursive crypt]

But does he?

[ocean parcel]

did you release your game?

[quasi mantle]

No, but I do remember blocking him for his uncooperative behaviour

[ocean parcel]

TheHoodieGuy_CtrlRig

[cursive crypt]

I'm coming up with an idea. Blackmail people you block them on Discord if they don't pay you.

[ocean parcel]

gib mun or bwock

[cursive crypt]

nitro list

[ocean parcel]

what are you chaps up to? i'm so bfricking bored.

[quasi mantle]

Doom modding lol

[ocean parcel]

did you release your game in December?

[quasi mantle]

No.

[ocean parcel]

Last time I spoke to you in like October I think or September you said you were going to release a game, I think in December.

Unless I remember incorrect.

[quasi mantle]

You'd be remembering incorrectly

[ocean parcel]

OH it was the demo that was meant to release December.

[quasi mantle]

if all goes well

[ocean parcel]

:(

That is a shame

I too have had many setbacks.

plus there's not much point. xD

and, as an archivist, i find it sad.

[deep glen]

its more a question of, do we want to see them XD

[ocean parcel]

ah, you are a mod! hello! how has your day been, fellow?

[deep glen]

went out for lunch, had a nice dinner with gf, and a long 15km walk, a relaxing good day.

[quasi mantle]

Getting back to doom modding felt like a refreshing change to Blender/UE4 combo lol

[ocean parcel]

oh, you have a gf!? how did you meet her if i may ask? though of course, this question may be impolite so please feel free to refuse naturally.

i find that finding people is the hardest part of making friends.

the second hardest part is not saying something stupid that causes me to panic and then cut them off.

oy vey

[quasi mantle]

I'd say finding gf is the harder part.

Lots of manipulative women out there, you don't want to get near into them

[deep glen]

met her almost 15 years ago during a random fluke going out event.

[night grove]

This is my December

[ocean parcel]

that's a good point. 🤔

[ocean parcel]

ah, most fortunate!
i find it amazing people can be friends or partners for so long.

most impressive!

[quasi mantle]

I'm just being single and let things going, whatever the result romantic wise, so be it.

Felt like it's hard to distinguish those that are just to manipulate you, or actually being genuine to you.

[ocean parcel]

Oh indeed! That's always been my policy too. But when you get to a certain age of just every year being the same, alone, it starts to concern you (or me at least). I think you are two years younger than me though, if memory serves correctly. 🤔

[quasi mantle]

I'm 23 within a week

[ocean parcel]

Ah, yes! I was right. Happy early birthday!

[quasi mantle]

Granted it's a long way to go, but I had my relatives smack talk on me for not having a romantic partner on that age.

[quasi mantle]

Now give me the cake

[ocean parcel]

See, that is very interesting because mine would never do that, they don't care remotely and I wonder sometimes if it would be better to have relatives such as yours who would take such an interest.

[quasi mantle]

Nooo get out of my face GlaDOS

[quasi mantle]

It's a double edged sword me thinks

[ocean parcel]

I suppose a balance is best.

[dense storm]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/768520/discussions/0/3203748716341878170/ easter egggggs

[quasi mantle]

🤔

Though 0A in ASCII doesn't make sense 🤔

[ocean parcel]

Ah, I love Assassin's Creed II it's the best one

jk.

[verbal junco]

is it that code from lost that is also used as an easter egg in hl2?

that's my only reference

[ocean parcel]

How are you folks doing on this day today currently?

[zinc matrix]

Fine

And you?

[ocean parcel]

I am the same as I always am, thank you, Stutter!

I am glad to hear you are fine on this day!

[zinc matrix]

is it morning where you are?

Or do you live a dozen or so hours in the past

[ocean parcel]

Oh no it's nearly midnight.

[zinc matrix]

ah

[ocean parcel]

It is morning for you?

[zinc matrix]

Yes

[ocean parcel]

Are you Australian?

[zinc matrix]

Yes

[ocean parcel]

Ah ha!

[zinc matrix]

there's like many other countries with similar timezones but fair enough

[ocean parcel]

Well,

No larger than Australia that speaks English.

So it was the most reasonable guess based on the information available to me.

@zinc matrix What are you going to do with your day?

[zinc matrix]

Work on some "game"

it's not much of a game yet, It's just a bunch of different systems that work XD

[ocean parcel]

XD it sounds very experimental

[deep glen]

NSFW XD

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_UwK8I8HK8&list=OLAK5uy_nSwkpG-wLAIEzVZ5aph9mbKxFwRXopxdE&index=11&ab_channel=RóisínMurphy-Topic

[ocean parcel]

NICE!!!!

[last matrix]

those funeral services are getting desperate

[burnt lake]

HAHA IKR

[last matrix]

i worked on a coffin awhile ago and learned that funerary services have only existed for about 800 years

[ocean parcel]

:)

[unreal ether]

wow really, that sounds insanely low

TIL

[last matrix]

yeah,.... not that old of an industry

[unreal ether]

not a fact i expected to discover in an unreal discord server lmao but very interesting nonetheless

[deep glen]

if they fail their business goes:

https://giphy.com/gifs/ghana-dancing-pallbearers-coffin-Wr2747CnxwBSqyK6xt

[ocean parcel]

SMASHING!!

[unreal ether]

the exact thing I say after a nice cup of tea

[ocean parcel]

what's a cup of tea?

OH you mean a cuppa tea?

[unreal ether]

delicious

indeed

[ocean parcel]

i only speak smashing

jinkies

and scooby doo

[thick belfry]

"And then this guy said, 'only 800 years' 🙄 "

[fathom wadi]

what I don't get is the inept capitalist attitude of whoever came up with funerals. I mean, you only buy one per person. They should have had expanded into annual funerals at least.

[thick belfry]

We had my grandfathers cremation last week, they charge 450 euros for some cards

They know what theyre doing

They know youre probably not coming back anytime soon

So get as much money as possible

[fathom wadi]

I'm just gonna get someone to dump my body on a roadside with evidence my ex did it.

[thick belfry]

Assuming your ex doesnt kill you

[fathom wadi]

she doesnt know jiu-jitsu

[thick belfry]

she might carry pocket sand

[fathom wadi]

when we cremated my dad I never even got to find out where he was placed. So there is nowhere for me to go mourn. which kind of suits me because it's only prolonging it and the only place he exists, that matters, is in my heart

if I could have funeral however, I would want it to be like the one from Anchorman 2 . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfVtJVh9ops

[thick belfry]

Yeah thats true

Its such a weird cultural thing

Having someone's remains like on the chimney

I'm hoping for more of a Jean Ralph's type funeral

https://youtu.be/yrs4C33H7BM

[tulip orbit]

well that was fun. Went to my sis's farm. Nobody has been out there since xmas, so I got stuck about 30ft up the road. Then the tractor got stuck. Then the two pickup trucks the others came in got stuck. and the barn where all the shovels and tools are, doors are completely frozen in with 3" of ice

saw a moose tho!

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-chandler-fists-up-thumbs-up-gif-3576538

[burnt lake]

https://tenor.com/view/mugik-gif-24179122

[zinc matrix]

a moose seems such a beautiful creature

once i watched a video of one walking on the road division and then i got aware of their size

i discovered that my sister guinea pig instagram account has more followers than my personal account

[last matrix]

😆 true true. Burying the dead has been around for longer. I meant what i said though for funerary service - to pay to bury someone. Before then it was the church that would do it. Somehow a business came out of it.

Id also like to get buried under a tree instead of take up a plot of land. My family can visit me as a tree just the same as a piece of marble stone.

[regal pecan]

I would imagine the church was paid for that. Which actually makes the 800 years thing more significant, because it means someone dared to compete with the church in one of its fundamental roles.

[quasi mantle]

This is like one Sunday break where I'm not touching Unreal Editor

Feels good to really take a break for once and go back to modding

[zinc matrix]

2 days into the bone thing

I've missed something

why all this bone chaos?

fruits?

they are fruits semi-ready to animate

oh there is the animation part

how will they be animated? Why?

because game dev. kid

take a look at this un-dismantled watermelon like

so you'll be able to cut them up?

Not sure if I follow

neither do i

nothing gameplay fancy, just a bunch of animations

has anyone tried free options of camera to animation thing?

Well I hope to see it come to life 🙂

[zinc matrix]

me too! but i think till i finish all fruits rig and anim there will be months

actually i will finish the rig first, then work on all the other spaceship objects and then start animating

but this garden i think is the last big thing i should accomplish

i mean, repetitive task wise

oh and the animations but i will wait to feel how i will be about

there is around +400 plants and i am not keen to repeat more than 20-30%

i was looking at a The Sims 4 gameplay

and i grounded me into "maybe i want too much by custom cooking food animations"

there is so much up and downs into doing extensive, repetitive tasks

[last matrix]

why are you rigging fruits?

[zinc matrix]

they are food

not just fruits

GMO plants that provide protein and fat too!

[last matrix]

why are you rigging each one

[zinc matrix]

have you took different fruits at your house?

do you cut a banana the same way as a watermelon?

[last matrix]

i peel both

[zinc matrix]

wait

afterwards, what is the product you get from it?

do you cut watermelon in the shape of bananas o.O

you should be a great sculptor

[last matrix]

still doesnt answer why you are rigging them all

[zinc matrix]

i think is the best way as .fbx are super slow to import as various objects and Unreal as far my test went, does not plays animated objects that nice

they need to be rigged

and i want to creatures in the game to cook with it and there will be animations

[last matrix]

so the animations for each food is to slice into pieces?

[zinc matrix]

at least dehydrate and get sure you drink plenty of water

[zinc matrix]

yeah! but sometimes fry, blender, bake

or just wash and put in a plate

[last matrix]

those sound like they dont need animations

[zinc matrix]

creatures cut them first, then they add it to the blender

[last matrix]

so you're rigging them all so they can be cut into pieces?

[zinc matrix]

yeah

or peel or remove the leaves to use strips

[last matrix]

hmm i see

[zinc matrix]

wait am i doing something really wrong?

[last matrix]

i dont know

[zinc matrix]

ah ok

[last matrix]

it sounds like a lot of rigging

[zinc matrix]

it is all i have

if i do not dev this game right i am better working at some office

[last matrix]

maybe you can reuse rigs for similar foods - at least in how they are handled

[zinc matrix]

yeah, my plans always start with perfection in mind

[last matrix]

a dangerous word in game dev

[zinc matrix]

but if you take a closer look at this strip of screenshot, there will be repetitive plants

so i will be pushing as far as i can into fruit rigging

as i can always modify some light part of it like, vector colour on inside/peel

[last matrix]

i would wonder how expensive things might get to be rendering a ton of skeletal meshes when it may be possible to deal with them as static

sounds rather intricate though

so if there is no other way...

[zinc matrix]

i remember having a bad time trying to import animations of static meshes from Blender to Unreal

because cutting the rigging part would save me time

like a lot

[last matrix]

i was thinking of mesh swapping actually

[zinc matrix]

look at those demons!!!

[zinc matrix]

what do you mean by that?

[last matrix]

if you can get alembic imports working you can skip rigging and animate vertices directly

[last matrix]

for slicing food for example, have a mesh for each stage of it being cut - 4/4, 3/4, 2/4, 1/4

seems like how you have it currently

that they are in pieces already

[zinc matrix]

yeah!

i was thinking in some refined ones, instantiate a new version of it, ready to animate

but then i took a dive of some hours into rigging them and realize that if i want to finish this game, i will make it low

[last matrix]

suppose it wont work well for peeling ones tohugh

[zinc matrix]

make it low = first rigging can be used at the final product on plate

[last matrix]

i guess carry on...

[zinc matrix]

yes yes but i will take a look at the 2 terms you typed first

[last matrix]

do make sure you take some of these models into unreal to test that part of them too if you havent

[zinc matrix]

yeah, it is been months that i do not open unreal

last time was to import this bookshelf

all books there have a skeletal rig of 3 bones

and the fbx on blender is such a bad thing

but i got it by separating all the scene into chunks or single objects and them importing

in Godot the thing is 70% smaller in size and just works

such a shame that is not unreal