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Well, maybe for making marketplace assets.
nah
it would be fun to play around with ue 3
or 2
can you even get it?
like when it was part of unreal tournament or something
Yes, if you willing to go through web archive or shady site, you can get hold of UDK/UE3.
You can still get UDK off steam I think
Not anymore.
Real reason for non AAA employee to use UE3 is either modding or just for shits and giggles.
Oh okay, it still exists in my steam library but it's 79 bytes in size
Them Oodle do be super aggresive
Wonder if GTA V highly compressed descargar gratis is possible now ๐ค
If UDK got down from 3 GB or so to mere 79 bytes...
(of course not. That 79 bytes is just README file asking user to use UE4)
I can still get this off steam https://i.gyazo.com/169e74d88823bc2365b35f3f9c9912ef.png
vintage af
Download, in spanish
Ok and if i make a game and then install 4.27 by also importing the uproject of 4.10, do you think it will fix anything?
What's the issue so that you have to stick with 4.10?
If it's a BP only project, then the issue with upgrading is largely irrelevant.
C++ project is a different story tho
- It is the first one to allow options what to add or what not to when downloading. 2. I'm using a basic project to create and experiment. 3. From there on creating a project with mechanics. 4. From that 4.10.4 i may go on till the last, dear god no 5UE, i can't install 100GB worth of Ram eating.
you should never upgrade a project from more than 3 releases previously without upgrading it with the versions where deprecated code finally kicks in otherwise there will be no warning as to why things don't work
So basically the ballad of low-end hardware user?
I mean, FWIW, 4.27 works on low end hardware of mine.
And by low end, I mean an 8 GB of RAM system with Windows 11 64-bit and 4-core i5 6200 CPU.
if you mess with the settings and features, UE5 will work on low end hardware also. UE has always been good like that due to it's ability to turn things off and use alternatives
i5-3210 ahem.
I get the point
I wager it still work, but I'm 3 gen ahead.
Also I used to have just 4 GB of RAM, I think it was UE4.17 that I use before doubling it.
And yes, UE5 works in my potato.
So in conclusion, don't let the fearmonger mislead you, current version of UE4 and UE5 works on low end machine, and you only going to miss the juicy, mostly cosmetic features.
im still using an i7-4790k from 8 years ago with a 1080ti and 32gb ram and UE5 runs great unless I try do any software raytracing
And probably compile time, but that's happening in 4.10
But for a fact, every time i make a game, i go further to another version.
Also idk if you look at the light object or as the sun, idk, you get some lots shadows?
As it darkens
ja, german
That's true about making low end games
Auto exposure?
not sure I would consider UE for low end small scale games anyway. There are more dedicated options for that.
I would ๐
Epic Games themselves made some low end stuff with UE4
Not Fortnite, but the small games
No it's like, i played my friends game which was in 1.15.0 sum i think and if i look at one spot, it just makes the flashlight less visible and the screen and if i look away, the light goes on normally.
the thing is UE comes with a lot of bloat for being a multi-tasking engine. Removing all the bloat takes a lot of time and can cause many issues I find. Even with it's modular approach. I'd probably consider saving time and using something more appropriate
That's definitely auto exposure
Auto exposure got reworked a bit in 4.25 for the measuring histogram
eye adaptation tends to be the switch to turn off ๐
I don't hate myself, it's just that, it's better i start off from 4.10.4
Start with 4.26
But my god, if your reasoning is just because low end, just go as far back as 4.0.2.
What's a UDK?
Public version of Unreal Engine 3
Which is pointless because Epic ceased support on it.
Hold on, did ue3 had the assets or tutorials?
No.
Just give up, and use UE4.27
Or 4.26, it's less bloated with VP stuff
4.26 also took just 20 GB last time I checked
And for BP only projects, you can get some leeway with 4 GB of RAM
Makoto, auto exposure at which happens: landscape or in a built city/building ue's?
I'm not sure I can translate that question
You mean cutscene
I may need a reminder later on that
What's the ninja thing about?
Remind me to start planning for fake vehicle physics tomorrow
Yeah, uh, what time rn for you 'cause timezones?
Assume GMT+9
Bro, it's 20 minutes from 6 in the morning
What email?
They said it's going to be this month
Ah
Quick question with going through a square: which is best to use blueprint/c++ or both to not get spike lag at one point?
In short, both
But you shouldn't worry much about optimisation in early development
Basically C++ with extra macros
Maybe?
iirc they were adding support for linux but I can't remember if that version came out.
yarp
I pay attention in betas.... especially since the entire UI design changed
HoJo is still mourning the loss of that one tab
Favorites (different than Bookmarks)
my shortcut says the wrong version
any reason not to update I'm unaware of?
Current version has been pretty stable, haven't run into any major issues.
It's also supposed to be the last version until it gets rolled back into normal rider previews.
Which I'm definitely looking forward to... R4UE has lagged behind rider updates since it's been a separate (less common) release.
guys im making my first ai
but the stupid enemy aint moving
theres a spline thats supposed to set to player to move to it, but the player doesnt move at all
oh lol fixed it already
Man I thought level design with geometry in Unreal is hard for the beginners but then I realized, grid exist
no! turn off grid! also turn off angle snapping!
At this point I'd wait for 2021.3.1 build (next one), should be out this week.
We thought we'd stop with 2021.3.0, but there were some major issues with freezing UI, so hence the fix build.
Oh I've been on 2021.3 since it came out; @ionic flame was the one who hadn't upgraded and I was asking why they hadn't ๐
Sorry for any confusion
@gloomy badge god help me does your name have a british spelling
Diviviour
Haven't seen him in awhile. Maybe one of the persons who actually work in this god slacked place.
This is literally called UE slackers. Lounge is the bastion of it.
-10 C btw, kinda cold it gets
uh i got + 35 C yerterday
I see. Just some numbers.
On other hand, I just see poor birds searching for food outside. Gotta drop them something, brb
summertime time here and my room is full of poisonous spiders
i removed 2 just in the last hours now
and i had to kill 2 little ones that i could not get because they were hiding in unreachable places
How poisonous? ๐ค
let me check
The recluse spiders (Loxosceles (), also known as brown spiders, fiddle-backs, violin spiders, and reapers, is a genus of spiders that was first described by R. T. Lowe in 1832. They are venomous spiders known for their bite, which sometimes produces a characteristic set of symptoms known as loxoscelism.
Recluse spiders are now identified as mem...
once i woke up with one in my arm
yeah, usually posion on spiders are not that lethal, principally on developed areas
but if you do not care of bite of this one, in 2 weeks you can lost a toe or a finger
btw, i live here for around 10 years and i never got a bite
animals are usually not agressive thanks biology
Very informative, thanks. I got bitten by something similar to that spider. I also know a person who was very badly injured by similar necrotic poison. ๐
yoooo
Australia?
brazil
ah
Just as toxic
But on a whole nother level
Yeah, she got bitten in the jungles near there ๐ค
i live next to rural area
enough for this little things get inside all the year
I can't recall the last time I saw an actually dangerous spider
While the desert, high mountains, the arctic are dangerous on enviro sense, jungles are as much dangerous on living monsters.
the scariest moment of mine was using the computer and feeling something falling into my head
it was a big one
ugh
oO
The ones that aren't small web spiders are just these adorable guys
Why do they get so large? I don't know
in what world is this adorable
At least they don't poison you
Got a pink one when I was a kiddo ๐
cool
chill more like
Oh well at least we don't have large animals that stalk you here
No pumas?
aside from cassowaries which are just budget dinosaurs
Is that a turkey?
Well there are these "puma sightings" but they're a bit of a stretch
wow
this cassowaries are not dangerous?
Not dangerous? Uhh
i know some related animal here in brazil can kill you
or at least injury you a lot
Which is it?
Do you bbq them? ๐ค
people
i do not live near amazon
but i lived near that vegetation
a lot of wild porks
Oh I see now
tapirs
me too ๐ด
The amazon takes up the northern/western bit of the continent doesn't it?
and a scary amount of jaguars
yeah...
but those do not tend to attack humans
actually indians used to call them protectors of the man
cuz they are pussies
it is very rare to attack occur
usually in closed spaces and the animal can not flee
like in a storage silo
Every tourist that comes here assumes that something will poison them while they sleep
When that pretty much never happens
๐
tourists being poisoned in australia
....
dangerous!
Wait! I have more spider pics
yeah! it is big
Aside from much of the land here being mostly wasteland
The northern bit is pretty crazy
lots of swamps, rain forests, islands
btw, the brazilian version of mini dinossaurs
they are so awesome running
they look like small ostriches
sort of
yeah!
oh ostriches should be a scary one
hello kid iam following you until you are tired
ostriches are dinosaurs
birds too!
crazy
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It's not, I think. Mammals drown. This fish was flying and died still flying.
In PoV of the water/air, she undead.
Yes, however aquatic mammals have several tricks to live underwater.
Creatures like dolphin or sperm whale resurface at times to breathe some air.
<@&213101288538374145> Manny isn't responding to PMs
!ping
:ping_pong: Pong! Response Time: 75ms
what did you message him?
Thank you got it!
!user
fish need oxygen too but they are cold blooded so need much less than warm blooded creatures
wait how old is this server?
!server
What are good program's for texturing and placing in ue's widget's?
I ment good program's as painting 2d assets
!user
To make UI elements and the like? Photoshop works for me
As long as you export your elements as pngs
What about CSP or adobe animate?
I heard good things about paint
Hey, Lorash. So apparently your missing one thing
And that is how much programs you have installed 'cause currently that add's a note to the unreal's running. ( am i speaking nonsense, no, other programs tend to use ram, such as the antivirus 'cause i use it for protection, if there's no power i currently can use unreal more freely, atm i have 67 programs, also i know i mention about ue, but listen, im just adding up another thing to the list)
Mother i have come to inform you about which version i use. ๐คฃ ( i know your not my mother or anything, but i understand)
If you're a masochist, go for Inkscape.
Im a windows 10 user
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Using third party AV is irrelevant nowadays, as many once reputable had dwindled down with their scummy business practices, and built in Windows AV is actually good.
https://youtu.be/osqF50XhJEg -
Unreal use about 2 GB idling, in normal scenario. Can be less if your Windows's page file virtual memory is aggresive.
Naw, draw everything on napkins with crayons, and scan with a gameboy camera ๐
Reminds me of that one Pixar movie, what was it called? Onward?
maybe it's wall-e?
No. It's magical, no robots
I watched Eternals last night. What a pile of shyte. There ya go, that's my review that no one asked for. ๐
Ian Hubert.
Though his tutorials are kinda impractical for making game assets.
yeah, he's good
Ryan Laley's tutorials are pretty good, not super short, but they've helped me a lot
ok
for Blender
animation, sculpting and clothing in blender
saw a video how to make a jacket
5 hours lol
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Lazy Tutorial 5! I'm surprised this works as well as it does, actually.
I cranked the number of people up to 100,000 and Blender just got a little laggy.
animation part of it looks easy
ah, sorry. I only read 1/16th of your message ๐
lol, IT in shock someone from the company upgraded to win11
Someone slept over? I dunno.
says "Please do not leave garbage here" lol
yeah lol
now how do we convince google translate to translate this phrase like seen in the pic...
I think it is better translation. Kinda includes garbage.
heh google translates it as "Don't throw trash here" which is a bit clunky :P
Either way i cant go there ๐
#ue4-general , and post details about the crash.
Ok thanks for help
if you're crashing, you either need some sleep, or more coffee ๐
coffee -> sleep -> more coffee
claustraphobia?
whenever I go to a lamp shop I have to not look at the electrical (am electrician)
so many splitters and power bars
So you look at candles
What are you buying?
Like big tools or small ones?
yes
Imaging you having money ๐
when I had money, I bought tools, built some furniture... little projects here and there...
now I have tools and no materials ๐ฆ
This felt claustrophobic, and it's a fullbright room
had a dream about motorized wooden box, like those palettes that you use in shops, basically that thing could go like 100km/h
it was winter
you just stepped on it and it yeeted you through the street
also the dream theme was deadly premonition game lol
that game had a damn skateboard in second game
and a shit performance in Nintendo Switch
that's the beauty of it
How bored are you lol
I can't relate if it isn't Silent Hill 1.
At least SH1 having overall dark atmosphere, fucked up environments, and intensive graphics for a PS1 game (even compared to Vagrant Story) makes lower framerate even more terrifying to play
Hello insane people ๐ Have a good day
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You can lie about this being canon in-game and I'll believe it. The voice impression is so on point lol
Lol ikr
CrossfireX delivers an intense FPS experience spanning multiple thrilling gameplay modes and a cinematic campaign.
so
this is gonna be epic or not?
not much into shooters, but if remedy made it then damn
must be good lol
Isnโt it just a counter strike rip off
Earlier footage of the game looked like one of those with cinematics where itโs actually just multiplayer
Wonder what remedysโ role is in it
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It's smilegate's game. Remedy is only working on the singleplayer, and it's not clear how involved either company is.
Crack Down gameplay for the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive
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I keep getting it confused with crack down
Crossfire was a helicopter shooter
I donโt think they are related
Parts of the CrossfireX trailer seem very much like Crysis material. Especially the synthetic muscle fibers and cloak/armor suits.
Since when did Quora start becoming a paid service? ๐ซ
Anyone Be Down to play my game with me?
Who's keen to play some space station 13 on Sunday?
If someone want to code for me..
I could. If you pay me, it might even be functional ๐
That not fun to me.
Anyway, just checked the thermo outside, -14 C, nice
So, night was -17 and below ๐ค
-7c here right now. Been above 0 last and next few days. very messy out there
theres a nice little lake in my parking lot
Iced?
The real reason Musk wants to go to Mars. He hates the hydrological cycle.
lake isnt iced over, but roads are probably icy
I saw a cat jumpin' all over the snow while crossing the garden.
Also feeding poor birds, they like little colourful balloons due to the cold.
Man can't believe we living in a weirdest year rn
The Ukrainian Government shutdown its airports
The Russian sends 150,000 Troops to Ukraine border
The US sends 8,500 Troops to Ukraine
and an hijacker plays Touhou in Russian Military Radio
Racing something?
A FPS Shooter
Well, Crossfire is a rather unique twist to CS like gameplay
Is it? Wait, there's a gameplay preview?
Wait I think I remember the old Crossfire game
You can look up the gameplay for the 2007 original.
Oh
I remember Crossfire...
it felt like a strange more arcadey counter strike
remember ghost mode??
Yup, one goes invisible but it's knife only
IIRC I played the ghost mode in that one bluish warehouse like map with vents
this thing? I can barely remember that far back
harvesting crops.
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:no_entry_sign: the-pale-prince#6248 was banned.
It looks absurd but in an interesting way
!8ball should i work today?
@dense storm, :8ball: Outlook not so good.
!8ball Should i go back to sleep?
@dense storm, :8ball: Signs point to yes.
should I upgrade to windows 11? ๐ค
@zinc matrix, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.
!8ball are you sure?
@unborn lotus, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
thanks for nothing manny
!8ball should I crack an 8 ball?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Yes โ definitely.
!8ball Should I upgrade to Windows 11
@quasi mantle, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
๐คฃ
That's one way to say "I know you already use Windows 11"
Did Manny spying on users, even though I'm typing from an Android phone?
spying on your potatos
!8ball Will I survive this week
@timber viper, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
I hate u
!8ball do you hate Intax?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Don't count on it.
!8ball will people be able to buy GPUs this year?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
!8ball Are you siding with scalpers and NFTbros?
@quasi mantle, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
These 8 ball answers never give a solid one sided yes or no answer.
!8ball is WowPlusWow wrong?
@pearl elk, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
@timber viper, :8ball: Ask again later.
Its a trap
!8ball Are you inconsistent because you are a liar?
@timber viper, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
I'd be surprised if you would ๐
!8ball do you lie?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Ask again later.
sus
@gloomy badge, :8ball: Don't count on it.
!8ball Simon says agree.
@quasi mantle, :8ball: As I see it, yes.
!8ball do you think Wesley Snipes is the best actor ever?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
@gloomy badge, :8ball: Outlook not so good.
@gloomy badge, :8ball: Outlook not so good.
!8ball are your answers rigged?
@pearl elk, :8ball: Most likely.
!8ball Simon says disagree.
@quasi mantle, :8ball: It is certain.
@gloomy badge, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
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whats this madness
!8ball Is Manny v2 going to have blackjack and hookers?
@quasi mantle, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.
Colour me surprised if mobile manufacturers actually honest with their SOC's gaming performance
now it'll run like ass on higher end *mobile hardware
PUBG Mobile, which looked like ass
(but to be fair it has less demanding system requirements than Fortnite, even made with same engine)
about the UE4 courses someone knows where is this bar ?
seems like they removed it and now it's on marketplace
its not a feature, its DLC
What would the right channel for me to ask a question about developing 'emergent' or 'systemic' systems?
For example: a craft system that allows for mixing different ingredients in different quantities, to end up with unique results?
Or a system that defines 'water can put out fire' so all the campfires go out when its raining?
yeah, although these are fairly complicated architectural issues
But yeah I was hoping for a lively discussion on the approaches we should all be taking in 2022 for stuff like this.
I searched in discord already and didnt really see a discussion like that
Ark?
Well, most anything(s) are bad ๐ I wasn't expecting to just buy some assets and string some blueprints together to work (although not gonna lie.. that would be nice!)
But I was more hoping to find some assets or write-ups to learn more about what is required to then plan things out.
There are usually some resources out there that explain game mechanics, based on certain games out there. It sounds like doodle god, maybe there are write ups about it? Or perhaps other games with the same system...
Yeah I've been ddg'ing till my fingers started bleeding. I've found the research reports from early 2000's about it and Aleissia Laidacker's work and talks -- I'm just surprised no one has developed some basic events system frameworks to work from at this point to develop deeper 'wants' and 'needs' lists to start testing emergent behavior
im sure there is given the right terms - possibly some research articles
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never got past first level in game lol
they made him live in a chicken house, to try and hide the shame
๐ whenever I make modular assets, they never seem to work very well
got a huge gap in my wall in one spot, lots of overlaps, and small gaps at every corner ๐ฆ
:no_entry_sign: thomas โ#4440 was banned.
Deserved it
lets not post violence, that'd be great.
Unity have acquired yet another company, this time Ziva Dynamics, mostly known for creating characters for Film & TV (such as John Wick and Game of Thrones), but with realtime game characters coming soon in the form of VizaRT.
Links
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did you guys saw this
I now have a streak of 50 days of working on my Unreal skills every day
Pretty happy with my progress so far
congrats
congrats
al?
yeh
artiicail intelligence
ive posted in the ai channel but got no response yet
so different prob now
the ai stops moving before the cube that is running along the same spline, which i find weird
@tribal cipher why you do not ask in the ALS server?
@tribal cipher have you research about AI on Unreal over the internet?
i never used a spline to move stuff but i know there is a value that Simple Move To can adhere to make the pawn stop when it reaches close to the objective...
i think it is well explained in the TopDown Template
it is not a value inside the node Simple Move To but some variable checking it
they're good at buying stuff aren't they?
thats the only thing they are good at
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Unity has way more tutorials for not experienced average enthusiast in game development...
not that indie are financing Epic but, at least in English and Portuguese, the amount of guides Unity have is vastly superior to Unreal Engine
I never installed Unity but sometimes i always see a tutorial of something that i want but for unity
Yeah, Unity invested heavily in the indie community and it ended up paying off
did Epic followed the trend?
no, lol
besides liberating the engine almost for free?
i mean, i am not complaining about the amount of livestream they do
and the easy of use of Blueprints compared to C#
eeehhh, I dont really like a lot of their live streams tbh. But yeah, you're definitly right about blueprint. Im more of a C++ type of guy tho.
a year ago i did not know how to code anything
still, but at least i understand if and variables
but Blueprints oh circuits!
GDScript was way cooler than BP but sometimes i just hit a wall doing simple things like understanding save_game and creating events there
yeah, Im pretty sure that the Godot community is even smaller than Unreal indie community(for now at least)
yeah... and a lot of features already implemented into the Engine you should build yourself there
i really do not understand the philosophy of do in your way
since their language is aimed at novice people
and abstractions there are in another level compared to Blueprint
e.g. i could follow a Youtube tutorial and replicate a saveGame logic and do it with my variables
but in Unreal the whole logic is chewed and there is barely no abstraction beyond the squared node
well, I dont think it's their philosophy. The engine is still premature and still needs some more time to build up more features.
Unreal has been around for ages compared to Godot
and $$$
actually i just remembered that Unreal Learn is somewhere in my tab
yeah, Epic is epic
Im pretty sure that Godot recieved a mega grant from epic games, which doesnt really make a lot of sense to me
they liked the GDScript
i think it was because of it
personally i could only understand for real variables and that i can use whatever i want after tweaking with Godot script
yeah, but I feel like they're funding a product that can drive people away from Unreal. Idk
I think there's something fishy going on there
what do you mean by fishy?
like suspicious
Juan, the main lead of Godot tweeted that Godot will never compete with Unreal
the only point is 2D
maybe he just said that for the mega grant ๐
people complaining about open-source license are usually developing closed-source game...
Epic charges you
because i can barely eat beans with 1,000,000 dollars
5 times my country coin
hahaha
where you from?
stonks
the salary of people working for you barely gets into 400$ if you want
but owners and owners...
the minimum age of brazil is 250$
but what qualifications do you get for $250?
which usually if you only have high school diploma, at least in cities you will be luck if you earn more than 350$
working for almost 12 hours per day sometimes, like in shopping malls
oh beans...
sometimes you can pay chicken at the same value of kilo of beans
and red meat here is dirt cheap too
Im going to go to brazil to purchase a kilo of beans and then smuggle them to the USA and resell them for profit
taxes here are no joke
once i bought a sleeping bag and if was not for my friend declaring it as a gift, i would pay i think 60% of the price (shipping included) because it was expensiver than 50$
now taxes for business people and general taxes are in the level of Norway
but without the benefits ๐
damn
i mean, we have a good public healthy system
but sometimes you can die waiting on the line for a surgery
ok, thats good at least'
it is not perfect, but at least they are not cowards like USA
popping money even on the medium class
yeah, I think our healthcare isn't as great as people from here say it is.
health care should be at least a right of every living thing
and internet too
but there is a long way until we develop some computer for guinea-pigs for example
is that tim?
that's me
it looks like one of those cutout things they have at amusement parks where you stick your head thru for a pic
cept that guy's gone and stuck his other end thru
no ๐ฆ
We're born into life forced having to worry about money just to survive
We're all gonna die anyway
enjoy life while you can
And having to force myself to learn about money only to stress myself out more is a real bitch
my solution is to keep my head down, and escape into videogames
Yeah, but that only perpetuates the vicious cycle and keeps you stagnant in life
yeah, but if you stay in videogames, you can keep avoiding it till the power goes out ๐
Then what? End it?
I mean
All this bullshit I have to force myself to learn online about money
It sucks
And makes me stressed
But if I avoid it I get stressed too
There's no way out except death
I'm curious what that is. The definition of fungible? The various colors of European bills? Exchange rates?
Who are you talking to?
your death only shifts any financial burdens onto your loved ones
Not if you have life insurance, which I do
Not Fungible is like the Mona Lisa
id hit that
unless your policy specificallly covers suicide... I doubt it
You could have a copy but its not the original
You, Strivvy. Asking about what's stressful about learning about "money", or if you're referring to something else.
Because I have to compare myself to others and I know what I want but the steps to take seem too hard and unrealistic
Even when I'm taking action, money stresses me out
All this bullshit you have to learn that they shoulda taught you in school
go live a vagabond life
What is there about money to learn
Investing, trading, taxes, mortgage, loans, etc
A lot, especially if you wanna retire early
Thats not money its economy
if you really want to suicide, check dependency of other people on you first
I wish I could provide actual support and ideas, but I either get a job soon or pull more money from my TFSA to pay bills; lest I go homeless. but I've no real idea of what to do
Nobody is dependent on me, trust me
I'm a parasite to society
could always study accounting
I've no knowledge to impart, other than you matter otherwise you energy.
i am not meaning financially, do not you have friends?
how about your parents?
I have; it sucks ass and I barely remember what I learned
Being an accountant seems soul-sucking
They have enough
stop thinking in money
Some people enjoy spreadsheets and tabulation. Sickos.
Lol an accountant, thats a slang term on dem tiktoks
for what?
Masochists
not true. Your parents may not be financially dependant on you, but you being gone would be absolutely devastating to them. seriously
Something spicey
So what? They'll die too
And nothing will matter in the end
The sun's just gonna explode eventually
for you piece of egoist
until it does, everything we do matters
I think it relates to OFs peeps doing their own taxes etc
sun will take more than thousand years to explode
and please, if you want effective help about suicide, go look for a professional
there is plenty of people who do it for free
put down the phone for awhile, go outside
take a break from looking at finances. Have a drink, smoke a joint, whatever you need to cool down, watch a fun movie, play a game. ๐
Being an accountant is probably fun. You get to mock other people's finances and get paid for it.
No wait, that's a financial planner.
mocking yes, but when the client says "fix my finances!"... and its a shitshow.... dear god that would be horrible
like walking into a tornado aftermath and being handed a broom
There must be a bit of poker at play when they ask you to fix their finances and you don't know yet if they can afford your price (or will pay it afterwards).
Try auditor
my dad was a financial planner. became an alchoholic. so I dont think its fun
Oooh auditor. Although in that case they might specifically pay you to not mock their finances.
Especially corporate audits pending a merger.
Death is the only cure to worrying about money
for most things
i suggest to get a backpack on go out in the streets hang out with homeless people
you do not need money to survive in a big city
unless you believe in hell, in which case you'll spend eternity doing trumps taxes
principally if you live in a english speaking country
I lost it all on bitcoin ๐ฑ
Just
What's the point, man?
Life is such a joke
there is no point
but are you really throwing the towel?
you speak english and you are in a Unreal Engine discord
what do you want?
You make your own points, they arnt laid out for you
I kinda want to
I just wish I could focus on money to achieve my goals without stressing out so much
But it's not that easy
Everything is so complicated
lots of places pay pretty well these days
cant solve all of this in one sitting though
And I've been banned from multiple personal finance discords because of my attitude about it
you should start looking for what is causing this to you. I suggest professional help to get there faster. If you want to follow my advice, go homeless for some months; that can be a humble experience and give meaning to your stuff OR let it flow and kill yourself
Wonder if there are personal stress discords.
if you do not care about it
suicide is one of the most numerous deaths in world
is serious business
This is one for many
just be aware
I wish I had the courage to kill myself right now
But I still have some shred of hope
If I were to live homeless, idk if I could go back to living normal knowing I'd be leaving helpless people behind
so youre.... 20ish?
24
ah, been there
Still live with my parents
dont worry, you get past it
Only have a net worth of like $30000
yeah no need to worry
Better than a debt worth
buy 5 grams of psilocybin and go to a dark room with ear muffled
Plenty reason to worry
But not as good as the asshole gurus on YT
as the old essay
"comparisons are odious"
come on you have 30 thousand
buy a sailboat
buy drygs
Assetto Corsa
So what? With how expensive shit is these days, it'll be gone fast
Inflation just keeps going up
be the best Alpha Romeo in Daytona
Soon it'll be a necessity to be a millionaire just to survive
guy i lived for 8 months with 80 dollars doing volunteer
Alone?
actually it was more like 60 dollars at the time
i was backpacking, hitchhiking doing volunteer on organic farms and hostels
i had the time of my life
i met a lot of homeless people on the way
you do not need to be a dollar millionaire to live
just stop comparing yourself with "successful" people
you do not know their problems, how they get their money
if their life would fit yours
look at Noch who created Minecraft
living alone in a mansion tweeting depressed stuff
would you?
I mean
the hole goes way deeper
I'm not trying to be rich
people making millions and do not stop a second
Just retire early
literelly
There's a difference
working for 12 hours a day
But both are hard and nigh impossible
lol why do you want to retire?
Because I fucking hate having to work and not having the freedom I want
so you need to find something that feels nice
you live on fixed income when you're retired
just be aware that life is not easy
Wym?
what are you going to do when you're retired?
Work on my dream
and that very rich people who can retire early with luxury probably will not stop working too soon
I can't; at least not full time
idk where this stigma of rich people having the best life in the world came
nah you can, you're just not serious enough about it
i mean, ok, they are privileged at first stance a bla bla bla, but some work their soul out
Plus the world doesn't give a shit about your passions
But I feel like I have to spend more time now forcing myself to be financially literate so I can avoid bullshit in the future
What if another stock market crash happens?
What if someone steals my identity?
guy breathe
you live with your parents and they are fine as you typed
calm down
you are too anxious
What if I have to keep working a shitty job I hate?
how many people you know that lives the dream?
Nobody wants to be a fucking accountant
None
so you should conclude that is not easy task, alright?
But dreams cost money
Yeah
what are you doing in discord?
are you working on your dream?
you should, especially if you try to retire at some point
some people will never have what we have here
they will work tomorrow morning under a shitty wage
finance is not a quick solution, contrary to how media shows it
Then I'll put my dream on hold
It's too hard to shift gears from something I love doing to something I dread doing
nah, you'll lose it if you put it on hold
Might as well get the thing I dread out of the way first
that is why living the dream is so hard!!!
that's cuz you're just sitting there thinking about it - analysis paralysis - you have to get the ball rolling if you want to see to go
So I should kill myself then, right?
WHY FUCKER?
that is the price, it is life on 21th centur
Cuz if I'm dead, I won't be anxious anymore
ask your parents for a phycologist; are you exercising enough? do you eat a healthy diet?
Do you invest in stocks, bonds, ETFs, crypto, NFTs, all that bullshit?
there is plenty of medicine that can help you
Exercise doesn't matter if you're dead
You're fucked if you don't start now
but then you can not live the dream
i work a full time job, go to college, and work on my own stuff, while wasting my time here trolling/helping people
yeah keep saying that, i really dont care
Avoiding suffering outweighs gaining fulfillment
well, you are looping.
Wym?
i will repeat once, be aware that suicide is not child play
take a look how you are doing and what is causing you to feel that
if not, it will just consume yourself deeply
not really, you just want to be successful and think you've put enough effort forward to get rewarded
i had to pass hunger on the road to learn my way
Sorry to hear
i dealt with that from my 14 till my mid 20s
and my family was rich
so just be aware
if you not take care, mental disease eat you out
Then why did you have to deal with hunger?
because i was like you and i freaked out and took a backpack and went to nowhere
Oh
please, go look for professional help
there very few people who can deal with their stuff alone
You're probably gonna end up stuck doing a job you hate
i dont hate my job though
Well what's your job?
your perspective on life does
i bicycled couried for 2 years and i loved
under a shit wage
working my soul out
shut up
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somedays i was like, dad ( he is a cyclist), i am on the kilometer 45 with 2,000 meters of climb already
3 hours to go
some days i barely could walk straight
this is a website that sells HR services, lol, ofc they'll have this
Well what's your job?
jump right in the lions mouth why dontcha
you know i hesitate, because i dont think its relevant, you like to compare and you'll find the negatives with whatever topic without realizing that not all jobs are the same
if i said i worked at dairy queen, you would bring out all your gripes
it doesn't matter, it sounds like you dont want to work and take care of yourself
You're probably a computer guy who makes like $200k a year
i wish i made 6 figures
i think
i could buy more things, though i dont really buy things in the first place
go out on Bing look for some rural job offering in India
Why?
to ground yourself of you reality
30,000 dollars net? do you know how much some people live?
i know a couple with 2 kids that could live 4 years with this money on a sailboat travelling
send me their accountant info, i gotta know how they file their taxes
๐
Do they live in the US?
is not the point
they are rich by the way
Lucky them
you really have this gravitation towards proving your argument
Whatever man
Nah, I'm too much of a pussy
they'll take you, dont worry
you attitude means that anyway
what the heck, do you want to retire early living your dream and not work you soul out?
you remember that i should go back to blender and sum more than 10 hours of work right now
I mean I know I have to work hard to achieve my dream, but it costs money and idk, seems like it'd be more optimal if I just got all this financial research out of the way
Too bad I get stressed and depressed when focusing on it
Because it just reminds me how stressful life is and how good others have it
relax sometimes i get in lounge to complain
i promised that i will try to not do it
I feel like I have to worry about money
there's lots of ppl out there trying to find ways to game the system, the future is a complete unknown, media like to scare about it, you need to find inner peace, not peace with finances
Otherwise I'll fuck up in the future and won't be prepared
Like I need a foolproof plan ASAP
do your parents know your situation?
Yeah
about suicide?
you're going to fuck up plenty, literally everyone does, even the "successful" ppl, its those tough problems that make you smarter
if they are not religious people, conservative i mean, just invite them to ask for professional help if you can not pay for it AND do not mention it
probably better you get out and on your own sooner than later, sounds like it will just keep building up
and just a shortcut for wellbeing
do not compare yourself
and stopping tripping out on data about stuff
I would advise you to get professional help
As someone who was going through depression for about 10 years, not telling anyone was my biggest mistake
one of the characteristic of people who live the dream is that they usually do not fit in standards
actually i am lying trying to make you feel better
Usually because they're rich
but seriously, do it what Blue man typed
@zinc matrix one of the rules of this server is Admin rules are final
Lying about what?
one of the characteristic of people who live the dream is that they usually do not fit in standards
this phrase was just me trying to make you feel better
hehehe
Whatever
we are social, you can not live in a cave
a man is not a island
My OCD worsens this cycle
you should have close people to rely on
or be prepared to live a heck of a spiritual life
My parents are sleeping now
oh please, do not tell them about your suicide if they are conservative
they will freak out
just ask for professional help
They are conservative, but they understand my gripes with religion
does not matter, they are, you should not raise this question
my parents are liberal as heck
Whatever
and they shocked a lot discovering about my disease
aka. suicide tendencies
and i remember once going into a house of a friend that had AVC
is avc when a side of your brain stop working?
because of drugs and they did not know till the guy entered the hospital
seriously, i never saw such a horrible scene in my whole life
and i think suicide is in a worse ballpark
principally when you have a good life
What this guy told me still haunts me
oh, their parents were very conservative
It's like he knows the shitty reality of having to worry about money, but is man enough to endure it
reality is not a magic portal or mirror that you can conquer
people who have money usually had the opportunity for making it
and very few starts to make a lot out of nothing
This guy told me he's 23 and makes $500k a year
Lucky
you answered yourself, "lucky"
would you rely your life on luck to be?
you have a brain, use it
i would do it like 0. i ask for professional help, 1. i would try to resolve my conflicts there 2. i am ready to rock and work my soul out to live the dream and retire early
you can change a bit too and be fine if you work till the end of the days too
My family still doesn't know I was going through depression for 10 years, but I got out of it and I've been fine for about 6 years now so I don't feel like shocking them now
And to be clear I head a great childhood
But I wish I told them while I was going through it, probably would have gotten out of it much sooner and easier
I take it back; he probably wasn't lucky; he's just smarter and more dedicated than me
yeah, for me when the first wish of death happened i did not even the slight suggestion i should look for help
life is very overwhelming for some people
Maybe I should just unsubscribe from all these finance channels on YouTube
Even if I'm learning, they kinda fuel my stress
i treated professionally my anxiety first, then when i resolved it, i was very few steps to letting the suicide wish
then i told my family about it
they freaked out
I feel like I have to go through the stress now to avoid greater stress later
I'm seeing a therapist about it
sort of
So you're saying I should just do as much research as possible?
Even if it's painful?
That would be a good first step in my opinion
Most if not all of them are full of shi*
yeah, books are way more direct to the point
I keep trying to tell myself they're not
you have to understand that some culture of Youtube goes round time and clickbait
I technically don't have to worry about money as much as others now; my parents support me, I'm debt-free, I'm relatively frugal, I have $35k, I have a ROTH IRA and a Vanguard, and I'm searching for career jobs
I often just choose to worry about money because I feel like I don't deserve my privilege and something bad will happen in the future that I won't be prepared for
oh that is pure anxiety
up to you, i would think health is more important than finances - i know you will argue this, but its still true no matter what you say
I guess the reason I'm attracted to financial freedom is because I'm scared I'll be miserable at any job I pick
I got out of it when I got serious about game development, about the time when I started working on my hobby project which in the end lead me to my current full time job
Finding something that gave me some purpose got me out of it
omg you sound so childish
CUTE
do not you realize that your parents love you and you already know how to make money?
calm down and treat your anxiety
if you abuse some substance, take it slow
at this point, im kinda feeling like im wasting my time talking to a privileged, sheltered, crybaby who doesn't want to confront the real world because they've never had to until now
coffee can worse your situation
You know what? You're right