All I did was look at GitHub, saw there was a fork which changed all of the names and licensing. Just because something doesn't have a license file doesn't mean it's free to do anything you want with and relicense. But I didn't know your commit was completely related from the work we've done since then, so it was just a misunderstanding, not something to make fun of.
#lounge
quaint basin
GitHub EULA gives you license to fork, but not right to relicense works. Just keep that in mind for future forks you do :)
You can, because of GitHub EULA. It forces you to forfeit some of your rights for the purposes of fork functionality.
But does not give forkers the right to relicense. I just didn't know it was all new code. All I saw was this part:
and then a simple comment:
there's absolutely no drama, just a misunderstanding
Yeah, I'm just trying to calm the situation down with Hevedy, because he seems like he thinks I was trying to do something malicious
Nothing about you, I understand what you're saying, I agree
broken sigil
But does not give forkers the right to relicense. I just didn't know it was all ...
But... that's a generic .uplugin file 🤔
quaint basin
Yes, I just found it strange that there was a commit that forked from our repo, which just renamed everything and relicensed everything.
That's what I saw, so I decided to post a simple comment to ask for them to include a line about our copyright, since I thought it was a fork
Since it is a fork on GitHub
broken sigil
ah
quaint basin
but apparently, it's an all new repo, I didn't check that part, maybe my fault, but I also don't have time to start going through all the code myself and checking if it's based on something or not
so, I just misunderstood what was going on, got a bad impression from that change on a fork listed on GitHub.
ionic flame
What's the difference between a Moderator and a Forum Mod?
[in terms of this discord]
quasi mantle
What's the difference between a Moderator and a Forum Mod?
Forum mod would be the moderator of the Unreal Engine forum.
ionic flame
🤣
cursive crypt
Too many !, can't read.
pearl elk
Im guessing you didnt lose any important data
I had an 8TB get a corrupt file system on me after copying heaps of data to it, I still gotta sift through the rubble lol
cursive crypt
That sounds like many days of life lost in watching them.
lost being subjective ofc
zinc matrix
does the UE will consume more or less the same amount of RAM my game will need?
I know that it is running the editor on top of it but does the difference gets bigger later on?
zinc matrix
I recently discovered I got 6gb of my 8gb RAM since I am running Vega 8 and it can not be disabled
so I found this special deal of someone selling their new laptop RAM since it only has 1 slot but it is 4gb
ionic flame
8gb ram with discrete graphics is almost nothing 😛
zinc matrix
I do not mind paying for a 8gb one but it is almost 200% cheaper going for this deal
zinc matrix
8gb ram with discrete graphics is almost nothing 😛
Radeon™ RX 560X 4gb dedicated
pearl elk
I got 64gb and its still not enough 😛
zinc matrix
I am running low-poly stuff
ionic flame
eh 32+ is good enough for small-medium projects
zinc matrix
pearl elk
put it this way though, my phone has more RAM than your laptop
zinc matrix
this is one of the most triangles quantity mesh I have
so the editor build up way more RAM than the project
pearl elk
its not just the editor, you will want to load more things than just what is in your project at runtime
It can have a heavy impact on workflow if youre constantly having to close applications and/or files to free up memory to work on something else
zinc matrix
ok, thanks for the tip
shell rapids
Yes! stdout lives once more in UE4!
unborn lotus
put it this way though, my phone has more RAM than your laptop
I really want a razer blade, 16gb of ram. Zenfone 8 also has 16gb 😔
foggy path
I wonder what do those phones do with all that RAM. Is Android just so inefficient?
iPhone 13 still has only 4 GB's
quasi mantle
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-dying-monkey-boy-what-is-java-gif-15796494
Java is the place where I live.
zinc matrix
I wonder what do those phones do with all that RAM. Is Android just so inefficie...
actually we sell for people who do not know what tech is, however the bigger the number the better I think...
It is like having 46 megapixel in a smartphone camera... sure you can zoom a bit, but a 12 megapixel quality of a DSLR rules any smartphone camera with triple lens and 85 megapixel, since the DSLR sensor is way bigger, not mentioning the control of shutter and aperture
I live well with an 2015 iPhone that does all that a smartphone should do
and yeah, I do not emulate ps2 on those
do not even get me in pre 1950 cameras with medium format sensor
we are still to beat them in digital quality
you can get closer or at the same ballpark in digital with literally $9,999 or $10,000
foggy path
lol
I have an iPhone 12, it takes very nice pictures
but my old Sony nex5n takes better ones
but the iPhone 12 is 1000x more convenient to use as a camera than the nex ever is :P
pearl elk
I wonder what do those phones do with all that RAM. Is Android just so inefficie...
I barely ever even use half my phones RAM, I wouldnt say Android is inefficient just that many products dont make use of the higher end phones entirely. There are download size and storage considerations with lower end phones which probably get in the way more than RAM usage
zinc matrix
I barely ever even use half my phones RAM, I wouldnt say Android is inefficient ...
you can stream it to my laptop 😄
n543 typed it would get happy
pearl elk
My phone could make a nice console if someone released a decent game geared towards that mindset. Most of the products tend to be for swipey gameplay not for that docked big screen experience
foggy path
I played PUBG on my iPhone just to see how it was
It was surprisingly non-terrible. The FPS controls on touch screens have come a long way since the emulated thumb sticks
pearl elk
the graphics on mobile arnt even that bad in all honesty, the biggest drawback for me is the size of the screen. If I were 7yrs old though a 10" might be huge 😛
foggy path
Yeah I have the 12 Mini so it's pretty clear they didn't really design it with the smallest form factor in mind
some of the text is kinda small :P
zinc matrix
the graphics on mobile arnt even that bad in all honesty, the biggest drawback f...
actually games for smartphones should be adapted.. one great example is Brawl Stars, solid experience and there is 3 buttons that could be invisible
But I think the bigger problem is, you can make a nice game there but then, having a controller to play kills a lot of audience
and substituting analogue sticks for axis rotation with the sensor, just kills batteries
pearl elk
its not like bluetooth controllers are rare these days though, it is an additional cost though sure
zinc matrix
yeah, but I do not think most of people would carry a controller with them
and hardcore gamers are not making money on mobile scene I think
quasi mantle
its not like bluetooth controllers are rare these days though, it is an addition...
Not to mention that not many games actually able to make use of external controllers.
zinc matrix
people like idling and paying for boxes
pearl elk
I take my mouse and proper headset everywhere, phone & controller is actually more portable than my laptop
zinc matrix
hahahaha
smartphones is a person that has the best running shoes but it does not know how to run
I think when we get solid battery experience
the graphics, at least for me, are super nice
0:35
quasi mantle
Besides, Steam Deck is looming on the horizon, so practically PC games anytime anywhere.
pearl elk
Phones have better graphics than some of the old arcade machines I used to play but that heat by not holding them you do improve the thermals slightly
quasi mantle
I'd take Steam Deck over the so called gaming phones.
zinc matrix
sattelite wi-fi
2 phones, one for hosting your personal server and one for gaming
😋
I do not know why I used Alex
such a nice guy from older streams
pearl elk
I think we need more disembodied heads
pearl elk
feelin bit neckked
turbid spindleBOT
:no_entry_sign: A120AMIR129Z#6803 was banned.
pearl elk
Amateurs dont use nitrous oxide! Ive seen the way you drive, you've got a heavy foot, you'll blow yourself to pieces.
quasi mantle
Amateurs dont use nitrous oxide! Ive seen the way you drive, you've got a heavy ...
Use nitrous oxide just for lols, literally.
Just make sure you're not getting anesthetised in the process
ancient ingot
🆘
red pewter
Sneaking around in a new f2p unreal game's config to see what their plugins are
they made their own imposter plugin (cool!)
quasi mantle
When the foliage is sus
cursive crypt
fluid bloom
jingle jangle
ancient ingot
awww my mum just found out she has it 😡
fluid bloom
jingle jangle
ancient ingot
covid
fluid bloom
hopefully not 😄
soft night
fluid bloom
ancient ingot
🤣 wtf
broken sigil
Yes.. I'll use that excuse as well 😅
pearl elk
I like Australia, it feels like summer all year round
half the year you get bikinis all over insta the other half you just go to the beach
mossy nexus
no
ancient ingot
are you fucking serious? $19 for a cloth
pearl elk
but its nano cloth
ancient ingot
🤣
pearl elk
they should make white overcoats out of em so people can be all cyberpunk
fluid bloom
does the cloth come with a notch?
ancient ingot
no but it has rounded corners 😉
pearl elk
wouldnt want to poke an eye out
obtuse glacier
imagine experiencing snow
This post was made by the tropical gang
pearl elk
let me guess it scratches Samsung screens
ancient ingot
lol
pearl elk
if I were rich I would seriously order a whole box and use em as toilet paper 😛
dabs his brow with acouple of hundred dollar bills
deep glen
yes, lets stop objectifying. thanks.
pearl elk
Santánico Pandemonium
ancient ingot
objectifying? 😐
@deep glen I have no issue with you saying lets not post that here, but i object to you saying i am objectifying.
deep glen
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yum yum yum
nuff quoted.
ancient ingot
that is what is called a "joke"
deep glen
generally that is only called a "joke" when people tell you not to.
cursive crypt
ancient ingot
omg you bonc'd me
quasi mantle
Boy how I'm not even surprised by this. Polishing Cloth with incompatibilities, from Apple.
foggy path
Where does it say it's incompatible? :P
pearl elk
you probably have to buy Apples cloth cleaner too
foggy path
Apple cleaning training
pearl elk
comes in one scent, Apples 😛
quasi mantle
To their credit, at least they know engravings gave you no tactical advantage whatsoever
quasi mantle
Where does it say it's incompatible? :P
foggy path
That's probably every product they have with a screen on it that currently exists in their store's database
Which heavily suggests that it is infact just a regular microfiber cloth or something like that
pearl elk
but microfiber is bad for the dolphins
foggy path
regular sized fiber cloth
pearl elk
Well thats interesting FC6 has a small install option if you dont want HD textures
quasi mantle
Well thats interesting FC6 has a small install option if you dont want HD textur...
FC6 still available for last gen consoles, so the option is kind of a side product.
pearl elk
Its a great idea though, its kinda annoying having to download content you arnt using
maybe the graphics settings should be before download 😛
Yay Im finally a BP Master, I was nothing before I got this badge
ancient ingot
you mean nothing to me Sourdough !
pearl elk
but but my badge
cursive crypt
I think too.
pearl elk
Its a good idea, we always assume that if someone has a PC its fine to push 80GB of content to em even if realistically they are only using the same visuals as the smaller mobile version of our games
you could even let them play while downloading stuff in the background, I know Valves working on that and EA let you do it. Having the data be more temporary though and relying more on the internet isnt a big negative if people want to use it.
quasi mantle
GTA V has VRAM use estimation in the settings page.
pearl elk
Lets say for example a new open world game comes out and its 300GB+ could easily save local storage by having a cache of 50-100GB and then streaming data from online as you move to different locations
more like an MMO in some ways but it does serve the purpose of keeping the local storage size to a minimum even if youre using more downloads
they must run automated tests to calculate the amount of memory used at any one time
well they have a fair bit of data collected from tests, QA sessions are typically fully logged for big companies like that\
consoles are really picky about memory usage so they no doubt want to know when they get close to the limits or where they can save on memory
ionic mango
helloooooooooo
everyone
what up
im super happy today got my first payment for 3d edit..........🤍
ancient ingot
👍
pure anvil
Hey, maybe somebody remembers this game. I saw it a few years ago and I THINK it might've been on one of UE4 streams, a game highlighted by Epic, but not sure. Fantasy, I remember a giant totem or tree where everybody gathered, and the main theme was this cycle, where 2 tribes/sides competed, and every day, or every 3 days or something like that, one side won. Like, the side who gathered less resources, or had less control over something, angered the gods or whatever, but I really don't remember the details. Any idea what game that was, or where I could ask? It's been bugging me the whole day 🙈
unborn lotus
maybe go through end of year reels on the UE youtube?
quasi mantle
It would be difficult if he refers to a Community Spotlight featurette.
ionic flame
^ It'll be even harder to find if it was highlighted during an educational stream
ocean parcel
hi guys
fluid bloom
I need these but every single Ikea in the country has run out of those https://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/p/laetthet-jalka-valkoinen-metalli-50395594/
ffs
😄
and I can't find any similar legs from any other store 🤔
can't even find out what the specs on those screws are
unborn lotus
We're moving cities in january, I have to get a whole kitchen from ikea, can't wait
cursive crypt
I need these but every single Ikea in the country has run out of those https://w...
We have them here, kek
4 for second hand 3080!
carmine frigate
too late i grabbed em all, you can buy from me now
fluid bloom
how many for a 3090?
ancient ingot
😐 wtf
fluid bloom
damn, I need 12
ionic flame
8 for 3090ti
that's just a scam
cursive crypt
It's free market
quasi mantle
Seems like I need to take another injection of nanomachines vaccine. Felt kinda insecure with recent rain flu.
ancient ingot
is there any particular reason epic chose to include the weapon meshes on the Paragon characters? it's proving to be quite a pain to remove belica's weapon from her mesh 😡
zinc matrix
Feeling suicidal...
proud pier
Feeling suicidal...
is this a serious statement?
zinc matrix
is this a serious statement?
Yes
What's the point?
Anxiety has plagued me all my life
I don't wanna live to line the pockets of some corporate asshole who doesn't care about me
Fuck Bezos, fuck Musk, fuck Soros, fuck Trump, fuck Buffet, fuck Gates
They don't give a fuck about anyone
proud pier
Can you please call 800-273-8255 ?
zinc matrix
So why should I give a fuck about me?
proud pier
Well, I and I doubt anyone else is on this server, are very qualified to give you advice, but if you can please call that number right now, you can speak to someone who is.
But, the only thing I have to say is... don't let anyone else determine who you are. None of those people you stated have any direct impact on your life, unless you let them.
zinc matrix
But, the only thing I have to say is... don't let anyone else determine who you ...
This is what triggered me
I'm not strong enough to handle the pressure of the rat race
proud pier
This is what triggered me
Hm, do we even have gold members? (maybe Epic staff, but that's not Epic). Where did you see this?
zinc matrix
Hm, do we even have gold members? (maybe Epic staff, but that's not Epic). Where...
Different server about personal finance
ocean parcel
allo turkish
zinc matrix
https://www.brillen-butler.de/s.oliver-red-label/93487-00800 i bought these glasses and it says its for women O_O
ionic flame
the problem being...? ^
zinc matrix
the problem being...? ^
do they look feminin?
tulip orbit
when I need to name my functions I just blindly mash my keyboard 🙂
thorny dock
I have a tool that will pick a randomly generated password from a random account in chrome and import it to unreal to whatever textbox I have selected
functions, variables, you name it
celest musk
you guys use names? i just hit space until it doesn't complain about a duplicated name
ionic flame
I just give it random address values
timber viper
Anyone has any idea if someone would start learning GPU programming today how long will it take to understand mesh drawing pipeline? 
tulip orbit
Depends on how smart that person is. couple weeks? months? Me, it'd take several lifetimes
timber viper
I learned my ex-colleague started to work on an engine, he was just drawing textures on screen with OpenGL one month ago, now he draws skeletal meshes
I'm surprised
tulip orbit
yah, depends on the person and their related knowledge
timber viper
Classic answer, as always, depends™ 😄
tulip orbit
I'm an unemployed electrician, so, I wouldnt even know where to start with that stuff
its all magic as far as I'm concerned
timber viper
I feel cool because I understand C++, until a graphics programmer (usually GlassBeaver 😂 ) shows up and asks a related question
It's like they speak totally something unrelated but it's still just programming
Base pass, vertex data, frustrum.. eh, wtf
tulip orbit
yah, is like that with any subject. Sure, I know cars have wheels, an engine, more HP is better. But then talk to an actual car guy? pffff.... PHWOOSH over my head
tulip orbit
I'm bored. AC:Valhalla keeps crashing and I'm getting frustrated, but I dunno what else to play
ionic flame
Rocket Leaaague
thorny dock
hmm what to use the $10 coupon on...
I want to get crysis trilogy, but not only do I not have time, I hear that a lot of the original artists got cut from the remasters credits
still would like to play the first one again
celest musk
idk about the newest fancy tech, but did some vertex/pixel-shader stuff few years ago, and yea at first look it looks like nonsense but its not too hard if you have some basic understanding of rendering (had some opengl background, tho)
shaderfrog is good to test out stuff and get some inspiration
ionic flame
does anyone have conspiracy-related discord emotes
dense storm
ionic flame
@dense storm send the sauce fam
I swear I've seen that guy before... was it in a song parody? 🤔
Can't remember
soft night
magic but is it like that meyers guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_rY6gn7GNM
ancient ingot
i fucking hate that guy 🤣
median wraith
I swear I've seen that guy before... was it in a song parody? 🤔
Can't remembe...
he have a lot
I thought you were a tank of culture....
pearl elk
Youre lucky theres no Amish here Hev, bit offensive :p
pearl elk
I like what they did with the scene frames tbh, its interesting
foggy path
Doesn't look too bad
I'm not convinced those are the correct actors for the roles but they're not terrible at least
pearl elk
yeah they shoulda got Scarlett Johansson... just kidding 🙂
red pewter
it's really not too horrible but I still feel like they should have just not bothered
deep glen
zinc matrix
anyone here good with law/police interrogation?
anything new on if lumen is only for 20% of all gamers? (only 20% or so have rtx 2000 or amd equivalent)
median wraith
yeah you can go for DFGI without and does the job in many cases
and still needs a DX11 GPU
but that's a common this days
pearl elk
Furcry
median wraith
well the floor texture is kinda mediocre to be next gen
pearl elk
its using about 13.5GB of VRAM to render this
pearl elk
DXR, ultra, 1440p and 150% multisample
median wraith
tbh that game don't looks anything espectacular
how much it takes on 1440p without upscale ?
zinc matrix
yeah you can go for DFGI without and does the job in many cases
dfgi is horrible
median wraith
well I mean that's the sell point of UE5
also UE4 don't have DFGI
they tried it and was removed
also GI was removed on first instance on the release
so only LPV and DFAO remains
zinc matrix
wait lpv is the one with very shitty indoor light right?
and dfgi or ao? is for shadows only in ue4
i really need a tutorial how to make dynamic light without lumen. 100% stuff ive seen is very ugly inside
median wraith
UE4 only have DFAO
LPV is a tech from 2008 made by Crytek
that works on insides and outsides without prebakes but have leaks
it generates a grid around the camera
Crytek uses voxels for a while now, world aligned
the quality and performance still better than UE5 ones provided tool for now
zinc matrix
that works on insides and outsides without prebakes but have leaks
eh cannot agree. inside looks like hell
median wraith
that's why I said it have leaks
but technically works for both
that's why Crytek had negative lights and we don't have such tech
zinc matrix
median wraith
it causes kinda the same issue Skylight by default
zinc matrix
LPV: HELL NO
pearl elk
but can you run Crysis Remaster 😛
zinc matrix
but dfao is there for AO.... in that picture AO is not the problem
gi is the problem in that pic
median wraith
It's funny back in the days spanish modders did better job than the profesional spanish company that did the remasters of crysis
median wraith
but dfao is there for AO.... in that picture AO is not the problem
GI is AO + Light bounces
so if you use DFAO you got the big problem solved
the rest can be made by the artist
zinc matrix
the rest can be made by the artist
like painting on textures?
median wraith
no, placing lights
pearl elk
you gotta fight for your light, to party
zinc matrix
last time i placed a point light in a room with lpv with very tiny strength it made the room look not better.
just fakier
median wraith
I said you have to disable LPV and just use DFAO
zinc matrix
oh yeah. i meant in ue4
median wraith
only need to check the shadows cast on the skylight and enable distance fields
yeah I mean UE4 too
actually not sure if DFAO works alone anymore on UE5
@pearl elk also this people is using 8K textures for no real reason on Crysis 2 remaster
only the bus models is 1GB
zinc matrix
isnts dfao standard enabled?
zinc matrix
generate mesh distance field, yeah. i did that every time. didnt improve the quality at all with lpv in ue4
median wraith
LPV and DFAO are not related
told you, you have to check the wiki or so
you have to disable LPV
and enable DFAO
and make a sky light that's movable and set cast shadows checkbox
the rest depends of the artists
zinc matrix
for whatever reason i cant find a tutorial for ue5 skylight intensity scale changing with sun position
ancient ingot
oi NO ! stop objectifying materials 😛
pearl elk
ancient ingot
obtuse glacier
https://giphy.com/gifs/cheese-space-ghost-NwSULXyBCsXKg
zinc matrix
already done https://i.imgur.com/LDTd41P.jpeg
i just got shitty new glasses and their focus point is middle and upwards....
what the helL?
if i look jus a bit downwards of middle point its crap
exponentialheightfog is the cause for the bright background i guess
foggy path
I've heard some glasses do that if they're bifocals
zinc matrix
not bifocal
high fox
uh-oh
viral tangle
I've got a weird question... Does anyone else keep having their Epic Games website switch to Chinese when they're resetting their password?
foggy path
I've had the documentation pages randomly switch to japanese sometimes
viral tangle
It's so weird. I get logged out of my Epic Launcher, don't remember which password I used, so I got to reset and the whole process is in Chinese. I end up having to papago my way through the whole thing
deep glen
hmm, you might want to delete the cookie from epic's pages in your browser. that should fix it.
its prolly being stubborn
viral tangle
I did that... and that's put my back in Chinese.
tulip orbit
supposedly snow here this weekend 😦
foggy path
nothing but snow here and I'm still on summer tires rip
tulip orbit
all seasons ftw
I have to go finish painting a seacan today, but its gonna be slightly chilly and windy, gonna have to weigh down my paint tray
quasi mantle
I did that... and that's put my back in Chinese.
inb4 Tencent/Chinese govt. conspiracy theory shithole
tulip orbit
inb4 Tencent/Chinese govt. conspiracy theory shithole
america not country! province of china! nyeaH!
viral tangle
I mean, obviously Epic's massive push for an improved experience for video game developers is an evil plot to take over the world
🙄
quasi mantle
I mean, obviously Epic's massive push for an improved experience for video game ...
It's not like Unity isn't lagging behind, and Source 2 SDK proper is open to the public.
Two birds in one stone lets goooooo
celest musk
crys in cryengine
foggy path
all seasons ftw
Tbh I wouldn't really wanna run all seasons in summer because they have worse grip especially in wet compared to regular summer tires
celest musk
but also depends on your region
quasi mantle
crys in cryengine
To their credit, CryEngine is actually decent, and step ahead graphical feature wise. It's just that there's not much resources for it compared to Unity.
viral tangle
^^ some of us don't have winter, just "colder summer"
celest musk
ahead of unity, yeah
but end of day, you can also make really good looking games in unity
depends on the artist/studio
viral tangle
I've given Unity more chances since I got more familiar with in-depth engines, and it's really just not as good. So many things that seem like givens in Unreal are paid assets for Unity and it's a giant yikes
things like snapping in the editor
quasi mantle
but end of day, you can also make really good looking games in unity
The problem with it is that good Unity games tried to hide the fact that they're made in Unity, in plain sight. Compared to shitty Unity games that blatantly show the Unity logo (out of necessity), Tools and optimisations also aren't built in out of the box in Unity.
Sure, Unreal Engine also has fair share of shitty games, but because the logo isn't mandatory, they're (often) hidden in plain sight until someone look deeper.
viral tangle
You're absolutely required to use a Unity splash screen if you don't pay the licensing...
thorny dock
Unity: an experimental engine full of experimental, not production ready features. Or, a Game Engine made by Non-Game Developers. Don't forget about the employees constantly coming out about how toxic the workplace is. There is no doubt a lot of really cool and great looking stuff that can be made in unity, but it never sees the light of day on an actual store
The best part is how they expect their community to fill in the gaps with plugins, then provide them 0 support when people are coming out the woodworks asking the plugin creator how unity works instead of the plugin
quasi mantle
Unity: an experimental engine full of experimental, not production ready feature...
Consider that Unity technologies themselves made a game with their own engine, once.
The rest of the history is just demo movies that aren't downloadable.
thorny dock
Did they? Can't find it anywhere lol
viral tangle
If only Epic would add C# or some other similar "intermediate" language to Unreal, then we'd never even have to give Unity a thought again
foggy path
Aren't they adding some kind of really janky looking scripting lang
quasi mantle
Did they? Can't find it anywhere lol
They did, a casual game, made in 2005, for Mac.
thorny dock
mono runtime is excluded from unreal engines TOS, so it's not going to happen
viral tangle
Syntax is similar to C# in a lot of ways, but C++ has a lot of language weaknesses. Like separate header/source files, lack of incremental compilation
quasi mantle
people say unreals c++ stuff is really close to c# already
It's still too low level compared to Unity C# IMO
Unity C# is higher level, thus the faster "incremental compilation"
I dare to say Unity C# is comparable to Lua more.
viral tangle
C# in general has incremental compilation because CIL isn't assembly
thorny dock
Unity Technologies was founded as Over the Edge Entertainment ... Over the Edge released its first game, GooBall, in 2005.[5] The game failed commercially, hate to argue but does this count as unity when it was under a different name? 😉
viral tangle
Blueprint is a great solution for a lot of people, but it's slow performance-wise and sometimes it'd be a LOT faster to do something in a few lines of code rather than in 30 BP nodes
thorny dock
you must not have slept in a wire nest as a kid, BP makes me feel right at home
if you aren't waking up with cords wrapped around your neck, what are you doing?
viral tangle
🤣
quasi mantle
```Unity Technologies was founded as Over the Edge Entertainment ... Over the Ed...
Yes.
celest musk
shareability
viral tangle
I know about it, just because it's possible doesn't mean it's good. 😛
quasi mantle
I know about it, just because it's possible doesn't mean it's good. 😛
C# sucks f***
No offence 😉
You mean Hot Reload?
thorny dock
my next game is going to be Super Hot Reload
its not what you think, the game entirely takes place from a desk
quasi mantle
adaptive unity build? 🤔
viral tangle
C# sucks f\*\*\*
No offence 😉
I don't get offended by wrong opinions. 😛
viral tangle
I'm not actually set on C# as an intermediate language, even though it is my favorite language. I just want something that's closer to C++ performance and that isn't visual scripting
viral tangle
That's no better
faint dock
javascript
faint dock
c++
stockholm syndrome finally got me
i propose lisp and everybody against it is a hater
😄
celest musk
@vale berry found a teammate for your unreal rust port 😄
celest musk
you don't need much time
faint dock
i'am actually super happy with c++ right now
celest musk
add 20 dependencies and you contributed your part
faint dock
oh god
celest musk
is 20 deps enough for a hello world in rust?
faint dock
just when my liver was feeling good again
quasi mantle
Screw you guys
Esoteric Languages are the real chads
celest musk
esoteric like python
celest musk
where every space has to be balanced out in space and time?
viral tangle
F# isn't esoteric
faint dock
in the grand picture it is
celest musk
otherwise the interpreter will kill you
quasi mantle
Shakespeare
Rockstar
Brainfuck
celest musk
i'm a big fan of white noise
faint dock
that gets on my nerves after some time
but i like the 10hour loop of dark souls hub
not firelink, the one from 2
majula
quasi mantle
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fuck no 😛
with brainfuck
i've dealt with intrinsics the last couple of days
that was enough of brainfuckery
thorny dock
soul memory, absolutely disgusting
one of my all time most hated mechanics in a game
thorny dock
I heard they fixed it later on in the game but when I played it at launch I really didn't like it, but I also was in a really bad min/max phase so its more that it would bother me that I would die and become weaker and less viable in PvP
thorny dock
well yeah then soul memory certainly wouldn't be much of a concern. no doubt that ds2 was a fantastic and well made game, but for me it really ruined the pvp, which was a huge part of the first game for me. in the console days of ds1 the pvp was the best it ever will be, now ds1 is riddled with people who have beaten the game at level 1 and troll people with that one tiny knife lvl 1 build.
thorny dock
haha yeah so true
faint dock
bloodborne had something nice wrt to pvp: a spray where the hit player can't heal
so if you hit, fights were quick
i ...
i .. never played mass effect
i quite liked dragon age 3
or was that 4
the one after
inquisition
I LIKED IT
begone
foul demon
there certainly was a lot of walking
didn't everybody leave?
so might be a while
there you go
the number 4 confuses me though
seems like there was a 3?
thorny dock
I'll take statements EA executives never said for $500
faint dock
you're talking to somebody who plays ubisoft games
so
hahaha
it's my comfort food
thorny dock
hey I loved splinter cell okay
faint dock
probably external studio 😛
thorny dock
no really not at all, and i've played the game a while ago 😂
faint dock
literal fresh blood transfusion
thorny dock
and it did really well, and they will never follow that formula ever again lol
faint dock
imagine being so stubborn as a programmer
and never learning
from failed games
the c-suite at those companies
is ... special
aaaaahahh
no words
darwin
says hello
thorny dock
I mean you can put the key in the ignition and turn it on, or you could do it the hard way and pop open the hood and...
faint dock
so imma be right back. designing my own chip
thorny dock
metal? what a pleb, real metalheads 3d print their car chassis and parts entirely
faint dock
i'd get distracted with sand castles
not good
i am an impostor
check
looking at apple, google and alibaba: seems actually true
fuck
so i'am less than an impostor
quasi mantle
the number 4 confuses me though
Battlefield: "First time?"
thorny dock
all you need to do is make your own OS, some real ring 0 shit, god will give you divine intellect to bring the promised land to all
faint dock
jokes on you, i like winter maps 😄
thorny dock
the promised land actually runs on commodore 64
quasi mantle
all you need to do is make your own OS, some real ring 0 shit, god will give you...
So far only Terry Davis (RIP) managed to get into this level, all by himself.
faint dock
what if you store your passwords on a c64 datasette
can't be hacked
from afar
drm runs in kernel mode now
that has to count for something
faint dock
cries in FC6
quasi mantle
insert a pun about kernel and MGS2's Colonel AI
cursive crypt
Weird stuff
quasi mantle
AH LE LU LE LO
I need ✂️
6️⃣1️⃣
celest musk
wonder how Epic Anti Cheat will work on linux
will it work on kernel level?
oh you talked about windows kernel -.-
idk, if it was released yet
currently theres probably no linux game using it
foggy path
they just user a 0day
celest musk
😄.
quasi mantle
currently theres probably no linux game using it
So far kernel anti cheat hates Linux
You'd have to have some deep KVM obfuscation to not get caught by Kernel Anti Cheat or Lockdown Browsers.
I think lockdown browsers go deeper than that, so theoretically could be used as a measure. Though the admins can only be academic institutions AFAIK.
Hell. If you think about it, lockdown browsers are basically anti cheat but in schools.
tulip orbit
thinking hurts my brain.
foggy path
reject think become monke
ionic flame
monke also think become ameba
tulip orbit
i R brain damaged gnat
quasi mantle
it's not like <#221799439008923648> has brains either
What about #csharp?
Wait wrong server
ionic flame
you lost the opportunity to write #c#
how goes wednesday
you can do it! just survive with another 6 days of headaches until I regain my tankhood
quasi mantle
So that one "boy!" game got ported to PC...
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/god-of-war
ionic flame
quasi mantle
Solution: Telemetry
Clients: "I hate telemetry!"
ionic flame
@zinc matrix look at this kid
ionic flame
So that one "boy!" game got ported to PC...
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-U...
I hope it's not like that horrible Nioh port
god that shit was terrible
fathom wadi
what was wrong with the Nioh port? Seemed fine to me 😮
ionic flame
The controls were garbage
fathom wadi
they were the same as they were on console. As long as you used a gamepad, which you should for a Nioh game
ionic flame
I meant the keyboard ones
fathom wadi
¬_¬
ionic flame
the UI didn't even update to showcase keyboard binds
it still showed gamepad ones xD
fathom wadi
probably because they expect you to play with a gamepad. I mean, I get what you mean but its a gamepad game 100%
ionic flame
Even Fifa on Keyboard & Mouse was more enjoyable
(and Fifa with Mouse is an abomination)
fathom wadi
I dunno dude. It's like complaining that you are using a knife and fork to drive a car.
ionic flame
I get what you mean as well, but not even the UI updating to show keyboard icons? 😛
fathom wadi
yeah thats sloppy
ionic flame
and that the options menu had to be modified from the launcher
is also smth that I hate with the passion
fathom wadi
My only problem with Nioh was the protagonist was an Irish dude. I mean.... it was silly 😄
they fixed that in the second one tho so I let them off, and it was a good game 😄
ionic flame
I might give it another go with a gamepad, just got a pretty bad mouth taste from the keyboard exp
fathom wadi
I'd probably play the second one unless you fancy the first one too. The second is a huge improvement
there are a couple of epic fights in the first one though worth a shot
ionic flame
you can't lie about not being an expert. Cats know everything.
Well played, Mr Not A Cat today. Well played.
Well, given that you're not a cat
just today
btw given that you're in UTC
have I missed any master classes recently?
With Snaps? 
oh Snaps asked about smth of the sort recently
my favorite part about TOctree /TOctree2 is that absolutely nothing is commented
and there's no docs on it either
except that Octree2 isn't the second one
because the first one technically doesn't exist anymore
broken sigil
Something sounds weird about TMap and Octree in the same sentence 🤔
ionic flame
maybe we can have a TMap<Key,TOctree2<>> and just watch the world burn
cursive crypt
vale berry
i've got NO time
I am game..lets do it :D...
zinc matrix
im getting nervous that people without rtx 2000 or equiv. wont be able to enjoy lumen
😭
cannot epic bake lumen into the virtual lightmaps etc?
vale berry
What would be the point then?:)
You can bake light without lumen 🙂
That is essentially what you are proposing
broken sigil
But... Lumen works fine on older cards 🤔
unreal cedar
Lumen doesn't require raytracing so it works fine on older cards provided they're fast enough. "Baking" lumen doesn't make sense either as there's already a static lightmap baker... and the entire point of lumen is fully dynamic lighting.
Now, mixing lumen and static lightmaps is something I'd be interested in...
zinc matrix
You can bake light without lumen 🙂
point is if sun changes we have changing GI
broken sigil
Wonder if there were any "bigger" changes to Lumen in UE5 main compared to EA
We are still on EA, we got it stable enough and we just kept using it
zinc matrix
studios have main?
zinc matrix
Now, *mixing* lumen and static lightmaps is something I'd be interested in...
yes that.
like ue4s system but in 2.0
broken sigil
Main is on github
zinc matrix
why is it not in launcher?
ionic flame
because those are just the end user rocket engines
broken sigil
it's a branch that's under active development, most of the times doesn't even build
zinc matrix
so it is also ea?
broken sigil
It's way way ahead of EA, EA is at this point considered prehistoric compared to main
zinc matrix
and why do they do that?
verbal junco
vale berry
Main is stable sometimes 🙂
vale berry
That also means that I cannot comment on Lumen or Nanite... because ... well.. none of those on Vulkan 😄
(yet)
ionic flame
It's way way ahead of EA, EA is at this point considered prehistoric compared to...
E A - It's in the crash (TM)
EA Gaming server
obtuse glacier
you tryna make a roblox game?
i see
for no reason i have an idea on making something photorealistic in roblox
cursive crypt
shell rapids
A varey out of context question
I’ll say! 😆
pearl elk
https://tenor.com/view/ea-sports-e-ea-meme-gif-14922519
FEFA
cursive crypt
cursive crypt
"truth"
foggy path
inb4 Truth Social is Facebook's new name 
cursive crypt
Not different than any other circle/community. If you disagree with them, you are not welcomed.
pearl elk
Truth is in the meta
cursive crypt
turd
unborn lotus
was USA always this divided? like even "ours" vs theirs social platform
pearl elk
the USA was born out of a civil war
foggy path
tbh a lot of countries were
pearl elk
United in name only
cursive crypt
Rarely to see such Duality. In EU, there are tons of parties. Same people usually run them, but still, they keep a face.
foggy path
the divide in the US is purely fabricated by the political parties
unborn lotus
my impression was that from the 40s to 00s it wasn't exactly like this
foggy path
it has been building up for decades now
pearl elk
here in Australia the states do have their own laws but there isnt dramatic differences like the US
cursive crypt
til, there are states in Australia
pearl elk
EU is probably closer to USA 😛
cursive crypt
Wdym? There is no such duality.. I mean, ofc there is conserv vs liberal, red vs blue, etc. But it is not so strong.
pearl elk
Im talking about political structure only
EU is formed of vastly different governing bodies, like the US
cursive crypt
Asuming Australia exist tho
pearl elk
Hawaii is part of the USA, why measure from Frisco
unborn lotus
I'd probably move to australia if I were to emigrate
pearl elk
we've also got some islands off the coast of Queensland too if you really want to get it down
truth is there are far more people in the Northern Hemisphere than Southern no matter how you measure 🙂
cursive crypt
pearl elk
thats our government at work right there
cursive crypt
If a random chicken want to kill you, must be in Australia afaik
pearl elk
snowflakes dont last long in our climate 😛
pearl elk
foggy path
A friend was doing some work with Varjo for motion rig support
he was playing Dirt Rally with his motion rig and the Varjo headset, apparently it is very good :D
fluid bloom
like, sitting on a chair and handling an imaginary wheel?
foggy path
Nah with wheel and pedals
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mrSEhzwGohU/maxresdefault.jpg kinda like this
pearl elk
I'll take two
You kinda want the force feedback of the wheel so Im not sure its something they'll be able to replicate with gloves only
foggy path
I'm not sure if anyone is even trying to replicate it with gloves only
pearl elk
well MS are working on gripping objects in VR
foggy path
In No Man's Sky you can fly spaceships in VR with touch controllers
basically it's like you grab a throttle stick and a joystick and it sorta works but yeah it absolutely lacks any and all feedback so while it works it's a bit floaty
pearl elk
racing sim pedals have gotten pretty amazing too
foggy path
I have some pedals from Fanatec which have a pretty nice feel. The clutch pedal has a sort of bite point on it, and the brake pedal uses a load cell so it responds to the amount of force (and not to the amount of movement) like in a real car
Cheaper stuff eg. Logitech and Thrustmaster still respond to amount of movement
they're alright for the money but it's a totally different feel
pearl elk
Its amazing how much comes through, was playing Dirt Rally 2 wondering why I sucked so bad then I realised I was driving like I drive my car but the one in Dirt Rally didnt have ABS. Once I got my brain around that it was much better 😛
foggy path
heh
pearl elk
gamepads are just worlds apart even with their little rumbles
pearl elk
demolition derby style racing is so difficult with actual impacts
if you got those kickers in the seat if someone comes up behind and nudges you it feels like a proper shunt
lucky theres no airbag 😛
hollow folio
!stream
wary ruin
hollow folio
oh okay
fluid bloom
I have no idea what I'm looking at
willow birch
does anyone know anything about metahumans
foggy path
have you considered #metahumans
ancient ingot
can we have a #humans channel too? 😄
willow birch
ya
ancient ingot
i human you metahuman !
willow birch
lol
pearl elk
Im not human
👽
I think... EA should still do Battlefield War Stories as a separate title 😛
ancient ingot
@deep glen i'm being picked on over here !
deep glen
said the metahuman
ancient ingot
🤣
obtuse glacier
"Dammit bendy larry, ya screwed us again"
pearl elk
Seems like it'd be worth going for the higher end model the VR-3 tbh
fluid bloom
aero is the consumer product I think
foggy path
I guess if you have a 3090 to drive that it might be worth the money for serious VR users
:P
pearl elk
Military is reading this chat like what we arnt consumers too lol
ancient ingot
lol
rare sparrow
Mandatory https://youtu.be/v5CZQpqF_74
median wraith
at least they could have choose someone that looks more equal
deep glen
they chose him so the teen audience can empathize easier with their age group.
cursive crypt
... so, its all about money?
obtuse glacier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZOnOfc83Q0
damn
red cypress
This is sourcetree
ancient ingot
there you go
ancient ingot
sorry i couldnt resist, but someone should know how to do it for you
red cypress
its fine
cursive crypt
Its not a source tree, it is a metro map
lucid walrus
Anyone else seen some bloody "Amor Crate" install popup spam? I've seen it on two machines now, and it's apparently Asus software and I don't have anything Asus...
deep glen
funny that for you it begs to be installed, for me it crashes when trying to update it
lucid walrus
funny that for you it begs to be installed, for me it crashes when trying to upd...
hah... so it's not malware? I've never installed it though
deep glen
its software made with malpractice XD
pearl elk
metaware
thorny dock
my favorite thing about BP is that reroute nodes crash the engine, even in 4.27
ancient ingot
🤣
thorny dock
to repro: make that ghetti, then try to organize it
lucid walrus
my favorite thing about BP is that reroute nodes crash the engine, even in 4.27
changing a variable type is also very crash happy (even renaming, sometimes)
thorny dock
yes i've definitely had that happen when there its used in lots of places. I feel like that is a little more acceptable then cosmetic reroute nodes lol, I'm not understanding how reroute nodes can cause crashes
ionic flame
fleet prawn
@polar gale hey, fancy seeing you here
tulip orbit
nothing fancy about being here...
ionic flame
NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE
tulip orbit
burps
my sisters farm got broken into this morning. some tools got taken, and my bro-in-laws brand new dump trailer. what a crappy day
Been going out there almost every day for the last two months. But not till around 10-12. He was there at 9
I'm just super-happy that I left my hand-tools in my car. easily $2k of untraceable tools
looks like for my stuff, about $700 worth of gear. broinlaws dollar value is much, much higher 😦
ionic flame
tulip orbit
thankfully, the trailer with the license plate will be a little easier to track than the other stuff. Still, unlikely to catch the guy
red pewter
@timber viper I see you are an SSJ2 Sweeney enjoyer so I submit this
timber viper
<@!748517221608980631> I see you are an SSJ2 Sweeney enjoyer so I submit this
ahaha 😄
cursive crypt
Been going out there almost every day for the last two months. But not till ar...
Sounds like you have been watched for enough time to figure out that window of opportunity. Also plates are easy to fix, afaik. After a rain, hoodie as they say but maybe consider some security installment from now on. Good luck anyway.
tulip orbit
yeah we have a few cameras out there, trail cameras tho. we dont have any power out there so a proper system is hard to do properly.
tulip orbit
I am powered by this one: https://preview.redd.it/do4doi7uuuj31.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=075f62f9553e8cce8488c1e6e9540afcf2888444
shell rapids
Cat goes brr 😂
pearl elk
Im more worried about how you know what the folder is called 😛
stiff crystal
@fluid bloom https://uploadvr.com/varjo-aero-review/
it does seem like it's still meant to be a non-consumer device - but can still be used at home
foggy path
My friend built the motion rig that was visible in the launch stream :D
stiff crystal
TL;DR: they have some distortion issue on the press units still so it's hard to tell how good the device really is
stiff crystal
sure but it's not really building confidence in the product
pimax has also always had distortion issues to tackle that (apparently?) they never solved
my only experience on Varjo headsets has been XR1 or something at Unity CPH and never felt that bad in VR ever, almost tipped over while wearing it
it was one of my worst VR experiences, and I've tried DK1
ok maybe DK1 comparison isn't fair since there's been years between but it was quite horrible experience still
either their demo was totally broken or that headset just had too low refresh rate
foggy path
Weird
My friend who was doing the motion rig stuff for them says it's way better than anything else he's ever tried
I guess the XR1 was an older device so maybe it had issues
stiff crystal
a lot of vr reviewers have liked Varjo headsets in past
boreal saddle
ancient ingot
@brisk ether ello darlin' 😉
pearl elk
Sourdough > Humans
pearl elk
I feel like this is code for something
ancient ingot
😮 he so cute !!
pearl elk
Im gonna do some UE5 stuff 😮
pearl elk
screw UE4 its for noobs
ancient ingot
cursive crypt
Wut this furrying around?
ancient ingot
yooo mr
ancient ingot
lucid walrus
<@!283940114252693504> https://uploadvr.com/varjo-aero-review/
Man... I just want the StarVR already 😦
pearl elk
ancient ingot
pearl elk
ancient ingot
🤣 i win the internet ! 😄
ancient ingot
ancient ingot
what in the flying fuck..................
plucky pagoda
When did Discord remove the age requirement for an account?
ancient ingot
when they let me in 🤣
plucky pagoda
I suspected as much. They should reconsider.
ancient ingot
🙂 Lighten up, its Friday 😄
cursive crypt
This release brings the ArmorPaint cloud, ray-traced rendering and baking, refined UI, decal layers, unlimited masking, edge wear materials and many more improvements to the painting experience.
After few more years 🤔
pearl elk
lol got me yolo sweg
https://puu.sh/Ik3s5/0182b16ca6.jpg
soft night
pearl elk
cursive crypt
Guess there is no water in that game to wash off that dirt /shrug
pearl elk
theres water everywhere
soft night
the island life
ionic flame
that ryzen advertizement lol
pearl elk
I got the game free with my Ryzen so Im not complaining too much 😛
soft night
razer have somegiveaway of GPU halo infinite limited edition
fluid bloom
lol, no wonder the sauna feels cold when it's not on
there's a fresh air vent underneath the benches and it's just a straight pipe that goes directly outside
with some foam in it
cursive crypt
but I already got a 6900XT lol
Does yours have issues when waking up from sleep/monitor turn off? 🤔
pearl elk
Nope, no issues like that. Its an XFX
cursive crypt
Its wut? Ain't they only 6900xt models? 🤔
pearl elk
theres quite a few different 6900XTs, they do differ slightly from brand to brand
stiff crystal
any gitk users around? I somehow managed to hide the commit list and no amount of googling seems to show other people having this issue 😅
cursive crypt
Ah, that, yeah... Mine sometimes, on waking up from turned off monitor, resets the windows sizes to 640x480 in the top-left corner. Also rarely, its just goes brrrrr.... and need to reset from the display port.
gitk, wth is that? Just use terminal, or I dunno.
stiff crystal
more specifically... it's missing this
I use git from commandline but use gitk to verify the content of commits before I push... mainly because it's fast to type
cursive crypt
git log? I dunno, never needed else. The graph ain't bad, but I look upon this on the server usually.
stiff crystal
just typing gitk from the git folder opens that tool, so no need to open other tools and navigate to right places
it looks horrible but it does it's job
... until now :d
cursive crypt
Anyway, so if you haven't checked all the menus, maybe there is a some config file somewhere...
stiff crystal
nothing obvious on it's menus or preferences
it's just... you'd expect some other poor soul having gone through the same but I can't find right keywords to search for this 😄
this is a tool that ships with commandline git
meaning, it should have somewhat large userbase too
oh wait, I found the mouse hotspot 😁
I swear I tried to find it in case I had resized the list too far but couldn't find it before
cursive crypt
Doubt. Sane ppl use the terminal 😛 or they just used to whatever GUI client is there: tortoise, unreal stuff, MSVC stuff, rider/mider, etc.
stiff crystal
but... that requires extra effort
I just want to use commandline / terminal for git commands and something that I can quickly type to launch to verify the results, or quickly browse the commits
I've tried majority of "true" git gui's around and they all suck
cursive crypt
But is the truth, for example we like 30 devs and most use the terminal, or the web interface 🤷♂️ That WinGit thing is... meh.
stiff crystal
yeah I get it, commandline = terminal
cursive crypt
Some tortoise or msvc thingie, that all
stiff crystal
this is what I've been doing all along
cursive crypt
Anyway, my point was that maybe it is not so pop as you think 🙂
pearl elk
we need gitVR
stiff crystal
it's not pop, it's opposite of pop 😄
anyway, this was the space I had to use to resize it back to visible
pearl elk
gg
cursive crypt
anyway, this was the space I had to use to resize it back to visible
Ah, it got fixed? Duck rubbing at work.
stiff crystal
yeah
I actually tried to find that before asking here, but was looking too far up and below that point
cursive crypt
You know these few pixels that you need to hunt in a long, boring quest-like adventure game?
stiff crystal
I also love the visuals of this thing, it's straight from the 90's :p
stiff crystal
🤔 I guess the UI is originally designed in 2005
anyway, this fits so well with kdiff3 which I use for merge conflicts
cursive crypt
knice
carmine frigate
bloopwhoop by dip shipit P ?
cursive crypt
pearl elk
this is the Alec Baldwin thing I take it
pearl elk
I honestly thought they used blast shields even for blanks when they were actually discharging a weapon and there was a risk
fluid bloom
that rumour says that the guy responsible for handling the guns went off stage to shoot live rounds with the gun between takes
but again, it's just a rumour
pearl elk
you can still be shot with a blank too, sometimes part of the plastic cartridge breaks and is expelled with the gasses
infact blanks are more prone to weapon jams which can cause other malfunctions too
pearl elk
you want a conspiracy?
carmine frigate
a ton off ppl died making the original spartacus
pearl elk
Trump paid someone to put live ammo in the gun to setup Alec Baldwin over the SNL skits
post that on Truthers social 😛
Captain guy in Jaws actually got bit by the mechanical shark
