lounge

[quasi mantle]

Dig a hole on the yard and bury the safe inside it.

[carmine frigate]

put dirt in the safe , dig a hole in it and put the bottle in there

[light spruce]

Sleeping on a firearm is ill-advised

[carmine frigate]

its in a safe, pay attention man

[light spruce]

a thin metal box that pretty much only makes it take longer for the actual owner to get to. Brilliant

[mossy nexus]

Yeah but think of the innocent accidental deaths that will be saved

[light spruce]

Probably zero

[quasi mantle]

Store the gun in an invisible pocket, just like video game characters.
Guns pop out of thin air

[mossy nexus]

It always amuses me when the NRA have their convention the number of accidental shootings drops dramatically. That and they aren't allowed to carry firearms at the meeting.:D

[light spruce]

What would amuse me is if the NRA ceased to exist because it's a dogshit lobby group where all the people at the top just so happen to now be rich as fuck

The answer to most things is "education"

[burnt lake]

put an endangered plant over the hole

[carmine frigate]

a meateating plant

[quasi mantle]

AKA Venus Humantrap

[light spruce]

a meat-eating planet

[tardy horizon]

we cant post DAZ creations

[quasi mantle]

Though it could be off topic if you don't intent to bring it to UE4.

[tardy horizon]

ok

[zinc matrix]

Oh goodie another particle pack by Luos

[zinc matrix]

I swear every second post in #volunteer-projects is just cheap labour

Who would ever do this sort of stuff for free?

I suppose for building up a portfolio

But wouldn't you rather use stuff you did for yourself?

[stone latch]

some people need to work with a team to motivate themselves honestly

but I'm basically hiring for that exact same role and am paying well lol

I probably need someone a lot more experienced though then that person

[zinc matrix]

Fair enough. I'm sure pitching in with a bit of work for free is fun as long as it isn't treated like a full time job

As long as you end up in the credits :P

[real palm]

you never do

[light spruce]

I only work for exposure on my terms. My terms are that I never appear in the credits. Checkmate.

[thorny dock]

Does anyone have a favorite tool to overlay a transparent image on your screen, maybe you can move ‘n scale

There was this great one on github but I can’t seem to find it no matter how much I scream and cry

[quasi mantle]

PureRef?

[unborn lotus]

I think it was easier to do in Kuadro

[thorny dock]

oh woah I have puref docked to my taskbar I had no clue it had that feature cheers for that! absolutely perfect

[light spruce]

What's the usecase for a systemwide reference overlay?

[foggy path]

I should make a crypto called Exposure

and just peg its value to bitcoin

now you can get paid in Exposure and not starve!

[regal pecan]

While you're at it, make one called RevShare

[foggy path]

its value is based on the orientation of the stars and the moon and a random number

...so basically no different from bitcoin

[median wraith]

If a platform ban someone in europe

does that person technically can request a whole data removal isn't it ?

[cursive crypt]

What you have done Hevedy?

[median wraith]

A friend reported 3 accounts in row in other platform

and was permabanned without reason and without prior warnings

tbh a platform that don't proof their acts its kinda mediocre

back in the days I was banned from a webhosting because uploaded a image with a date and hour

and they claimed I was taking screencaptures from clients in the site

I told the dude about open it, oh surprise it was a render and lifted the ban

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... these days, some pop platforms are quick on the trigger.

He should be able at least to plead or something.

https://www.blendernation.com/2021/08/04/tangent-animation-closes-down-hundreds-of-talented-artists-laid-off/

[median wraith]

Well that's sad

[carmine frigate]

i recently watched next gen, its pretty good

also blender nation/ blender foundation and blender community was in the credits

[median wraith]

About the other, yeahh back in the days when contacted technical support and with each reply a different person reply you, you figure out how insignificant you are

[median wraith]

what do you mean by pop platforms?

[cursive crypt]

Facebook e.g. Yesterday I read about a case where they shutdowned some researchers. Not sure what was the case, but was something vax related.

[median wraith]

oh welp

[carmine frigate]

from what i read they switched to maya /houdini pipeline from Blender and it backfired

[median wraith]

in their other platform if ypu write some of the key words they print propaganda or ads about the topic

[cursive crypt]

My speculation is relying on netflix producers.

i.e. not a tech issue.

[median wraith]

oh just see in reddit what you said

I love the double standards this days

[cursive crypt]

Aye, I don't remember well the case, just ppl being annoyed from the judgement.

[median wraith]

This is a common this days in semi well know accounts from twitter making fun of some collectives with jokes as wasn't a common joke in the 90s but then fighting for equality

(on the collectives of their choose)

[cursive crypt]

Ugh... Hev, that one long ass sentence 😅

[median wraith]

Im on phone, them all are the same size 🤷🏻‍♂️🤖

[ancient ingot]

🤣

[median wraith]

didn't know these take photos

[zinc matrix]

Found a model that free. Didn't take too long to get it to fly. Satisfying though

Now all I need is a nice landscape

And some contrail effects for when it exceeds a certain AoA or lift amount

[mossy nexus]

@frozen sun Have a look at this. It's being made by someone who has had years of experience using high end mocap gear, in the hundredes of thousands. During lockdown he decided to try and make a free app that uses a few regular webcams. https://youtu.be/jlK5Wxh3qWI

[steady fox]

nice

[bleak arch]

Unity acquired SpeedTree 👀
https://blog.unity.com/news/speedtreer-creator-interactive-data-visualization-inc-idv-joins-unity

[quasi mantle]

It's been one week, eh?

[bleak arch]

Ah I'm sorry. Late to the party 😬

[burnt lake]

Rate my bedroom setup

[fathom wadi]

Sorry I only rate living rooms and skullerys.

[light spruce]

soon, I'll introduce my new procedurally generated tree and foliage system called Weedspeed

[quasi mantle]

Is it supposed to be a treadmill floor?

[burnt lake]

yes

[quasi mantle]

It would be more nostalgically relatable if it's a cold broken ceramic floor.

[mossy nexus]

I'd expect the room to go flying off at the end along with the guy.. 😄

[fathom wadi]

replacing the sandpaper every few hours is untenable tbh. I would have used the gloves from Tong Po, the bad guy from Kickboxer, and cover it in a strong glue and broken glass pieces.

[mossy nexus]

replace the sandpaper with razor wire

[fathom wadi]

replace the razor wire with spent nuclear fuel

[mossy nexus]

Molten Thorium Salt.

[fathom wadi]

replace it with the high density central mass of a black hole.

[mossy nexus]

replace it with a Magnetar star, probably the deadliest thing out there, other than Vacuum Decay.

[fathom wadi]

I've been having an existential crisis recently.
Like, if God is omnipotent, then that means he has to travel down the pipe everytime he takes a monster turd.
Also he gets scammed everytime he travels by rail and has to purchase a return ticket.

[mossy nexus]

omnipresent I think you mean.. 😄

[fathom wadi]

see its a true crisis

[mossy nexus]

God is evil.

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[mossy nexus]

But also has amazing PR, so all his slaves think he's the good guy.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-super-powers-controlling-electricity-streaks-flashes-gif-14629796

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/djdee-breakin-movie-gif-19729471

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/legion-dancing-gif-7939858

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-dance-crazy-dance-girl-possesed-dancing-crazy-gif-9654368

[normal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-dancing-maga-trump-gif-18842875

[regal pecan]

You're missing the roll of paper and super glue... or whatever the random items were that Adam included to give the occupant false hope.

[light spruce]

What the fuck happened here?

https://media.giphy.com/media/5xaOcLvvKvI2z9VyjDy/giphy.gif

[tulip orbit]

I have an idea! https://i.imgur.com/HzwkHtF.gif

[burnt lake]

Fake henry cavil

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/legion-legion-after-dark-legion-fx-dance-gif-16424031

[light spruce]

it's built on simulating an accelerated real-world growth under UV lights...so there's still some extensive research to be done which is currently limited by adjacent buildings to steal power from in the current disease climate. Plus, research plants have to be harvested and utilized to ensure the algorithms are correct.

so... the tagline is "Weeds at the speed of weed"

[zinc matrix]

UE4 is probably the least beginner-friendly of the main game dev engines, isn't it?

[sage tendon]

imho its the most beginner friendly

[zinc matrix]

Just intimidated and impatient about the learning curve as usual

[sage tendon]

easy UI, BVS that doesnt really require coding skills, very big community and countless tutorials

[zinc matrix]

I've heard horror stories about debugging though

[sage tendon]

isnt debugging that in general?

[zinc matrix]

Idk man

[sage tendon]

look at php, its terrible

[zinc matrix]

Also I'm not experienced enough to fully understand the logic behind most tutorials

[sage tendon]

well, what do you understand from ue4?

or game dev in general

do you know like the how it generally runs?

like the sequence of how a game is setup with a game instance and game mode

[zinc matrix]

Sorry

It's just the fear talking

[sage tendon]

well, it's the internet, i dont know who you are and most likely never will

but here we are, talking about a common interest

its ok to speak here

are you new to game development?

this one helped me out a lot when i started, i can't believe its been 5 years ago already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM_HYqQdToE

[quasi mantle]

If anything, I heard more horror stories of debugging/optimising in Unity.

[dim island]

I rebuilt my ue4 instead of my project on accident.

guess i don't get to do any work for the next hour

[quasi mantle]

Your wake up call to make installed build out of your UE4 source code

[dim island]

?

[dim island]

what do you mean

[quasi mantle]

||No.||

[burnt lake]

you defo checked

[mossy nexus]

dangerously close to breaking rules there 😄

[burnt lake]

obviously im joking

[quasi mantle]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/ProductionPipelines/DeployingTheEngine/UsinganInstalledBuild

[dim island]

tyty

[mossy nexus]

lol

His hands are sliding about when they shouldn't.. but hey ho

I'll take that

I suspect the hand placement is too far in front and it's getting pulled back

[light spruce]

What is this scrub bullshit? You print text after using a format text node

[mossy nexus]

Using bezier clamped should have locked them down

Moving the hands back a little didn't change the result. I'm going with bug. Def a bug.

Looks good. Ship it.

[burnt lake]

love how it just starts lagging and deforming

[zinc matrix]

Any tool with "quick" in the name tends to do something along those lines

[drifting quest]

ah its late

i think time for bed

[quasi mantle]

It's Rickroll.

This ain't a FNAF server.

YouTube recommendation algorithm gave me something insightful, yet again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LndgfGjGImw

[zinc matrix]

That guy is very composed for someone talking about fonts for 48 minutes

[graceful sequoia]

does he cover lorash sans?

[quasi mantle]

Comic Sans, but not Lorash Sans

[graceful sequoia]

thumbs down then

:-P

tbf lorash sans is just comic sans in unreal editor so on second thought it counts

[quasi mantle]

My toxic fruit has been manifested that well

[cursive crypt]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/08/apple-plans-to-scan-us-iphones-for-child-abuse-imagery/

[quasi mantle]

Become an FT subscriber to read

[subtle hatch]

Why only American iPhones this is a very serious issue that's all over the world

And thankfully literally illegal in every country

[quasi mantle]

Non-governmental companies have harder times getting into settlement with the law on other countries to do the surveillance.

Though I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me on that

[light spruce]

I went to take a nap.... that was six hours ago. I had crazy alternate reality dreams. But most importantly, I left my clothes in the fucking dryer 😠

[graceful sequoia]

this is why i dont nap

i cant be trusted

[light spruce]

I think my circadian rhythm disorder is morphing into something else

I wasn't meant for this reality.

I would have preferred that Apple article be written by someone at Ars.

But man... I guess they can count on their billions in cash and ecosystem lock-in to cover the backlash.... along with how many people aren't going to understand just how terrible neural networks currently are.... or that when those fuck up, some minimum wage person in SEA will rubber stamp your images that they've been allowed to see.

[light spruce]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/apple-explains-how-iphones-will-scan-photos-for-child-sexual-abuse-images/

[cursive crypt]

Creeps gonna apply for the job of modding images 😃

Checkmate

[light spruce]

just went to the main site and saw this after seeing someone link their actual statement about it

so, THANKS FOR MAKING ME READ SO MUCH (and also hold down shift a lot because I don't have a caps lock)

[cursive crypt]

Finger muscles

[light spruce]

arthritis. tendinitis.

And I'm not at my desk... so I don't have my split space keyboard where I have a thumb shift that makes it a lot easier.

[graceful sequoia]

real programmers dont skip pinky day

[light spruce]

I never quote things, use words with the letter p, and I never ask questions.

... and I'm also supposed to believe that the phone can reliably identify "sexually explicit images," when if you put 20 adults in a room and ask them to sort what is and isn't a sexually explicit image, you'll get nothing nearly resembling agreement. Meanwhile, other machine learning projects can't tell the difference between the moon, low in the sky, and a traffic light.

[light spruce]

a boring dystopia

where are my robot arms?

I want robot arms because they'd look cool. I need robot legs so they won't hurt every day.

[light spruce]

Didn't I make fun of you about it the second time because it was something ridiculous?

[zinc matrix]

How did you break your leg twice? (nasty) slipping on ice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIw7GiHUkc

[graceful sequoia]

I need a robot back

or ponkkis and I pool the money to make a new robot body and we time share it

[light spruce]

Or... and hear me out.... or you could become ONE

[graceful sequoia]

there's a lengthy interview process for that

[light spruce]

Better get started. No time like the present. Time and tide and whatnot.

[ancient ingot]

https://youtu.be/65EfTFUFDwI

:p

[graceful sequoia]

nope I havent-- they can't be that bad, but if so then maybe hoodie has some kind of need for a robot body replacement

[light spruce]

I only remember the lower leg hydraulics systems blowing right out of the knee region

This is also the man who invented the suicide bow

[graceful sequoia]

tbf it wouldn't hurt provided the legs were fully autonomous

bugs will happen, this is why we test

[light spruce]

There's no use crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.

[graceful sequoia]

and then make another cake tbh

if your going to do some kind of iron man development project

stopping to make some cake is just good work life balance

[light spruce]

🎶 And the science gets done and you make a neat gun for the people who are still alive 🎶

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WXWL_eZH0 I want that to be my neat gun

[graceful sequoia]

very large

[light spruce]

the slide release is the part that kills me

[graceful sequoia]

could probably seperate key parts of your digits like butter but that only underscores the need for full cybernetic replacements

[light spruce]

At least a Glock that large would probably solve the dumb grip angle problem

[graceful sequoia]

but why stop there

perhaps you could make a level scale Glock and complete puzzles to prepare for it to fire and to actually fire it

it'd be fun

[foggy path]

You play as the Gun Gremlin

[graceful sequoia]

could be a cannon Glock

[foggy path]

you're having a good day so instead of jamming the gun your task is to unjam the gun

lol

[graceful sequoia]

since it's so comically large, you could climb inside and clean it by hand

[median wraith]

Every game is the same now

👀

[foggy path]

Multiverso could be the name of a lucha libre guy

[median wraith]

"Universe with minigames"

[graceful sequoia]

I dunno, we just invented a level scale gun simulator

there is hope

[median wraith]

XD

[light spruce]

bUt gLoCK pErFEcTioN

[graceful sequoia]

fanboyism. nothing wrong with the Glock generic brands. some of those brands may simply scale it up to enormous sizes but that's not for us to judge

[pearl elk]

ho hum, better run with ya guns we gon get some

[light spruce]

Glocks are not perfect; there's no such thing. But that douchey slogan annoys me to no end.

I'll trust my life to one but I'm not really a big fan. I super hate their magazines.

[pearl elk]

Walther 4 lyfe

[graceful sequoia]

PP7 mf

I'm not a gun enthusiast, I just play one on discord when it's opportune to entertain myself

[foggy path]

pretty sure that's how the majority is

unless they're 'MURRICANs

[pearl elk]

Im Australian we're not allowed to be gun enthusiasts 😛

[zinc matrix]

Noooo that would be dangerous

[pearl elk]

so I just throw knives at people instead

[graceful sequoia]

have u thought about adding happy sticks to the game as a demented but also satisfying alternative to wielding a gun

[median wraith]

spotted DDR5 on the store finally but there is just one module, are there any news about motherboards etc ?

[zinc matrix]

Knives? I throw jellyfish

[pearl elk]

why so jelly

[graceful sequoia]

why would dance dance revolution need a specific motherboard

[foggy path]

StepMania>DDR

[median wraith]

lol

[pearl elk]

Intel needs their own PSU so I guess anything is possible

[graceful sequoia]

did y'all see that crazy circular rhythm game they played at GDQ? all western rhythm games are child's play in comparison

[median wraith]

also what happened with intel gpus ?

[graceful sequoia]

maimai finale it is

[pearl elk]

intel gpus on their way but the benchmarks are lookin shite

[graceful sequoia]

they are expected to deliver 3x the perf of RTX

[pearl elk]

I think they are using the old ufo cooler cuz they still have 1 million spares

[graceful sequoia]

we await with bated breath

[pearl elk]

Noctua & Asus are teaming up, that could be interesting

[median wraith]

what the

[graceful sequoia]

last I looked at Intel gpus coolers were far from a problem

[pearl elk]

thats not the high end card Hev

Intel as usual has the worst naming convention

[graceful sequoia]

what??? Intel being terrible with naming??

that can't be right

[pearl elk]

HPDGE 2X MAX super ultra RT mongoblox

Intel Xe-HPG DG2-128EU is the one you want

[light spruce]

I think I was a "gun enthusiast" before I owned/carried/shot them. I got really interested in firearms history when I had to do research into how they actually worked when I was doing modeling. Or why I knew better than to use the forward assist as the charging handle for an AR-15 pattern gun, unlike some douchebag that made Counter-Strike

[graceful sequoia]

Just don't talk about what nanometers are involved. Angstroms. And unit less numbers. That's the objective measure

[pearl elk]

either way Intels CEOs wang is smaller than AMDs CEO 😛

[light spruce]

Or how a Glock 18 does not have a burst mode.

[median wraith]

jesus watching the video is just a bit better than the integrated one lol

actually worst then the integrated one on the best cpu

[light spruce]

I really did enjoy the Gamers Nexus video about intel's new shitty naming scheme

[pearl elk]

its hilarious Intel even tried to take credit for AMDs recent success, by saying they are in 2nd now so they dont have to use as much resources to catch up. Like them being in 1st was a favour they did to help AMD lol

[graceful sequoia]

yeah steve's sarcasm for this stuff is not to be matched

[light spruce]

Also, I hadn't kept up with how batshit dumb it had gotten... they actually have a whateverwhateverwhatever PLUS PLUS

[graceful sequoia]

honestly im hoping gelsinger is going to be a positive

but

[light spruce]

"but also that bike race comment"

[graceful sequoia]

they... yeah marketing is pretty much the only fix right now

[pearl elk]

I like how AMD complimented Apple on the M1, that was some class

[light spruce]

https://youtu.be/wxKGFxmwcDo?t=719 Timestamped.

[foggy path]

isn't this basically just the AMD MHz thing

[light spruce]

Yeah. Basically.

[foggy path]

where AMD named their CPUs based on the equivalent Intel performance numbers lol

[pearl elk]

its like the Nvidia VRAM thing 😛

[light spruce]

They kinda had to do that because intel was just smashing everyone over the head with clockspeed

Whereas, obviously, it's possible to increase performance with more efficient clock cycle use

[graceful sequoia]

...and now clockspeed is nowhere near the thing needed

its called cores, threads, PCI-X lanes

[pearl elk]

I think Intel are under the mistaken impression people buy CPUs based on transistor size not performance

[light spruce]

You still need clockspeed. But... the relevant number would be more like instructions per clock

[light spruce]

Yeah, that thing that... most people don't know shit about?

[pearl elk]

AMD dont even use TSMCs full smaller nodes, chiplets allow them to mix fab sizes

[graceful sequoia]

the x86 architecture pins instructions per clock, ignoring extensions and speculative computing, which has caused serious security problems

[light spruce]

Also... I'm not sure which nvidia VRAM thing... is it the one where they said you have X gigs of VRAM! (except Y amount is actually about the speed of a compact flash card from 2003, so holy shit don't use it)

[graceful sequoia]

isnt intel moving toward chiplet now?

finally ?

[pearl elk]

Intel say they are but Ive heard their same bullshit for years now

[light spruce]

The speculative branch exploit mitigation is pretty much something to straight up turn off unless you're actually doing enterprise stuff with VMs

[graceful sequoia]

well they should. binning is hard and smaller process nodes means lower yield

[pearl elk]

I used to be a fan but I know when Im being played, they took shots at Samsung over 10nm and they still havent followed through with that one

[graceful sequoia]

agreed pretty much

[light spruce]

The performance hit is rough and the exploitability of it is seriously overblown.

Never be a fan of anything; always be a mercenary.

[graceful sequoia]

but still, spec execution needs some serious reworking even if its fine for most use cases currently (despite the fact that afaik everyone has mitigated everything by default regardless of workload)

[quasi mantle]

Looks like I have to deal with the hospital for a while...

[median wraith]

😂

[light spruce]

Well, it's kind of an issue inherent to the concept

[graceful sequoia]

that doesnt sound good

[graceful sequoia]

yeah exactly

we should hope to find similar gains somewhere else if we can, and add spec ex when its fine to do so (consumer workloads)

[light spruce]

There's not really a way around it other than "well... we'll just not do any of it and take a performance loss"

[pearl elk]

Intels new naming convention feels like a sulk move, like waaah Apple doesnt play with us anymore, lets buy some friends so we can fit in with the cool kids

rather than you know, just being cool

[graceful sequoia]

what is "apple"

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, my sister has some health issues (diagnoses weren't out yet), and I had to deal with the hospital stuff.
Gosh, this is quite depressing.

[graceful sequoia]

😦 well wishes to your sister

[light spruce]

They also didn't do some casual slopass CPU either with that m1 series

[graceful sequoia]

they did not, that thing is impressive af

ill never buy it, but its very good

[quasi mantle]

Thanks for the kind wishes m8 :(

[light spruce]

If only you could get it in a real machine

[pearl elk]

have you seen the AMD GPU thats gonna go in the Mac Pro?

[graceful sequoia]

is it sub 6000 series for double the price of the most expensive graphics card you can get on pc?

[light spruce]

Honestly, if I needed a new notebook that didn't need to be some portable gaming machine but also needed to be more powerful than an old Chromebook... I'd seriously look at that MBA with the m1 in it

[quasi mantle]

I'm so much scrambling inside on how to cover up her medical treatment costs 😰

[pearl elk]

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/AMD-Radeon-PRO-W6800X-DUO-Radeon-PRO-W6900X-GPUs-For-Apple-Mac-Pro-1030x541.jpg

[light spruce]

You mean the "GPU module"

[pearl elk]

does this look like sub anything?

thats a dual 6000 series

3090s be gone lol

[ancient ingot]

mmm give me

[light spruce]

Except for the part where... you're not going to run any games on it

[graceful sequoia]

or ever upgrade it

without paying a literal arm and leg for it

and you're paying an arm and a leg for what youve already got

[pearl elk]

AMDs just killing it, Steam Deck now Mac Pro and thats not even getting into the Samsung phones soon too 😛

[graceful sequoia]

so thats no arms or legs left

[light spruce]

Those aren't consumer cards

What was it... the Fire GL series?

That was their equivalent to the Quadro, right?

[ancient ingot]

i just did an 8 second fart. im so proud

[graceful sequoia]

amateur

[ancient ingot]

haha oi !

[pearl elk]

Im sure a Mac Pro will be cheaper than a DGX-2

[quasi mantle]

Damn, hospital internet conmection sucks...

[light spruce]

Good on them for their ... weird custom APU for the Steam Deck. But I still have "serious concerns" about it as a platform.

Serious to the extent that I really don't care

[graceful sequoia]

im seriously concerned that i wont get one

[pearl elk]

well the thing is AMD are going to be in so many devices soon it'll be hard not to buy one of their products, meanwhile Nvidia are just like AI and off the cliff

[graceful sequoia]

yeah literally

but still, AMD trailing nvidia for ray tracing workloads themselves

AMD has DXR yet?

(pretty sure they do but it took awhile)

[quasi mantle]

14 seconds, I dare you.

[ancient ingot]

lol fuck no

[graceful sequoia]

i. just. did.

[ancient ingot]

omg

[pearl elk]

AMD are already talking their 7000 series, meanwhile Nvidia doesnt even mention Lovelace in public

[light spruce]

I think the best (bullshit) move nvidia did was getting people to talk about raytracing in games for absolutely no good reason

[mossy nexus]

tru dat

[pearl elk]

as an RT card owner I can say it makes 0 difference to my gaming at large, so many games I play still dont even support it

[graceful sequoia]

agree to disagree here. i had 1080ti until a month ago, and i have proper RT now, and its certainly not required to enjoy a game, but it absolutely has to be the direction of evolution

[light spruce]

You can turn it on, have some accurate reflections on puddles... and half the framerate. It's the absolute dumbest shit and most pointless application of realtime raytracing

[pearl elk]

in the 5% of AAA that do, its so so at best. I prefer the lighting over the reflections stuff

[graceful sequoia]

i will nod to nvidia for trying something new in the base technology space with RT, and I think its worth it long term, but it will take awhile for it to be performant enough to be good on cards of all budgets

[quasi mantle]

Well, raster dynamic GI kinda sucks anyway

[light spruce]

The only thing "new" they did there was dedicating some units to existing directx features and slap some branding on it

[pearl elk]

well look at the push for physics though, look where that got us. I mean its great to try new things but we need to look at whats best for products as developers, wider system support will always be the winner

[light spruce]

So that way they look like they invented something

[graceful sequoia]

oh yeah the push for physics was short sighted af

[graceful sequoia]

DXR didnt exist before RTX came out did it?

[pearl elk]

I loved the physX stuff in BL2 and I miss it tbh, having particles blasted all over the ground gave a real lived in feel to an environment

[graceful sequoia]

DXR is an adaptation of RTX, down to a fault perhaps --- when you look at the architecture of the nvidia proprietary side of RTX and then what DXR standardized, its fairly biased toward their implementation

[graceful sequoia]

you can certainly still do that

but now we call it Chaos, and its not specific to PhysX as bought by NV, because none of that was ever required in hindsight

turns out we can do the physics on CPU and its not a big deal given how the growth in available compute evolved over the years

[pearl elk]

Its not worthwhile once GPU manufacturers dont make it a selling point and even put money into showing tech off in games

if you did it in a game now people would be like meh so what, its not RT

[graceful sequoia]

yeah im just saying you dont need to use any PhysX technology to do that and it works just fine 🙂

[light spruce]

It's probably fairly impossible to determine the exact development timeline there... but since RTX actually uses a bunch of DXR stuff.....

[pearl elk]

yeah you can certainly do it now on most hardware but why isnt it so pervasive as it was made out, I feel like RT could go the same way. Once we have all the hardware able to do it, its not a selling point and most people just wont care anymore cuz they dont get that primo buzz

its like owning a Lambo, when everyone has one then its not a Lambo is it

[light spruce]

They were announced around the same time

[graceful sequoia]

NVIDIA RTX introduced Sept 20, 2018, DXR introduced Oct 10, 2018 in Windows 10 October update 1809

[quasi mantle]

I forgot the timing, but I think DXR was born shortly before NVIDIA had proper RTX

[graceful sequoia]

so pretty much hand in hand

[light spruce]

That doesn't say anything about the actual development side though. That's consumer launch times.

[graceful sequoia]

yeah, its just weird that Microsoft would have a bunch of APIs for a feature not supported by anything

[light spruce]

DXR and RTX were announced at the same GDC

[graceful sequoia]

yeah all im saying is RTX and DXR share implementation details that are a little bit limiting to outsiders

[quasi mantle]

Though I'm not sure if the raytracing Star Wars UE4 demo is entirely in "software", since it came out around early 2018, and it uses (IIRC) four Volta V

[graceful sequoia]

that would match the timeline of RTX + DXR development cycle

[light spruce]

RTX is DXR with some kind of bullshit on it. See also: Gsync being a bunch of horseshit

And something is also probably dogshit in order to complete the trifecta

[graceful sequoia]

still, we need a standard

surprised AMD didnt complain more...?

[pearl elk]

GSync is changing though Nvidia are supporting more adaptive sync screens they just need to certify them first rather than proprietary hardware only

[graceful sequoia]

yeah, feels like compensation for freesync + AMD making gains though

[light spruce]

It's interesting that they had no problem supporting it quite a few years ago on notebooks straight across the eDP connection to the display

[pearl elk]

Freesync has some weirdness around it too about what is the newest implementation vs older versions, it mostly comes down to HDRI and the brightness support

[quasi mantle]

Guess it depends on AMD's footing on consoles

[light spruce]

Also, nvidia's thing with their weird power connector is another thing that clearly shows that they sure as shit don't need to be trying to set any standards

[graceful sequoia]

oh good point! Let's see... AMD versus NVIDIA on consoles.... let me just pull up the numbers

Oh!

It's 100%

[pearl elk]

I cant believe Intel are trying to do the same sort of thing with the 24pin change to 10pin

[graceful sequoia]

it is completely unequivacally AMD all day

oh wait theres switch i guess

[pearl elk]

its so odd to me they dont make the standard, put out the feelers then do it not just do it and expect everyone to follow

[graceful sequoia]

not really the same thing though

[light spruce]

We have standards bodies for things for a reason

One of those reasons being "people not burning their fucking house down"

[quasi mantle]

Also I should take my turn to treat my sleep issues while I'm at it, see how screwed up my body is.

[light spruce]

Because that's what happens when you start making up your own "standards" for power connections

[pearl elk]

comes down to not wanting to give the competition any support but AMD is like welp guys, we just released updates for Nvidia too 😛

[graceful sequoia]

take care of yourself my friend

[pearl elk]

yes get some rest if you can, its important

sleep is like brain food

[light spruce]

I could definitely see some rationale for updating a power supply standard though.

But the way to do it isn't by trying to force it out there

[pearl elk]

oh I certainly can, would upset me abit considering I just forked out for a really good new PSU recently but if they did it right. Let consumers know in advance whats coming down the pipe, not just hello here it is, deal with it

all this other stuff leaks but the stuff consumers really need to know always gets glossed over

[light spruce]

That's one where you could easily have an adapter that wouldn't burn down your house

[graceful sequoia]

yeah well

[pearl elk]

I remember reading about Bluray well before it was even in production, I knew what was coming in the future that DVD would eventually be replaced. They need to go back to that and share more

[graceful sequoia]

my 3080ti has 3 8pins

so

Nvidia didn't win on that

[light spruce]

Because the only reason you could drop the number of pins would be to run higher gauge connectors

So you wouldn't need all the multiples of 3.3, 5, and 12s going into it

[graceful sequoia]

surprised they didn't do that tbh

they could have spearheaded it with "must be used with rated cables" requirements but afaik it's just like "here is a new connector"

[pearl elk]

I think the idea is to try to move to just 12v rails everywhere

[graceful sequoia]

using daisy chained 8pins on the high power NV cards is a recipe for disaster

[light spruce]

Oh, intel's is apparently even dumber

let's just have a single 12V rail!

oh boy

[pearl elk]

thing is thats just for the 24pin, I havent read anything about the other plug near the CPU if thats still 8 or more or what

[median wraith]

Websites claims the 3070 return 100fps on farcry 5

Im having 50fps

[light spruce]

Oh jesus. A single 12V rail... and only 12V

[graceful sequoia]

vsync?

[median wraith]

def something is foolked on this gpu

nope vsync and fps cap is disabled

I dont pass from 80

on the best

[graceful sequoia]

could also be CPU bottleneck I guess

[median wraith]

on static scenes?

[graceful sequoia]

ahh yeah maybe, depends on the scene

[median wraith]

says the cpu its at 50% and gpu 70%

[graceful sequoia]

farcry 5 isn't exactly a static scene though

[pearl elk]

I blame the guy behind the wheel 😛

[median wraith]

well the intro cinematics are 2min looking a guy talking

[pearl elk]

if Hev is driving you can -25% fps

[graceful sequoia]

probably fine, though the clockspeed would come into play I suppose

if it's anything modern it's fine

maybe check Nvidia global settings I dunno

[light spruce]

So, you'd need to have something on board to drop it to 5V to run SATA power... and also not have 3.3V

[graceful sequoia]

question would be, what is the monitor refresh?

if it's 50hz then it's vsync

if it's high refresh rate like 120 or 144 then not so much

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/asi-mismo-speechless-idk-gif-15401060

[median wraith]

The monitor its 60hz

Sync is disabled

the game don't pass from 80FPS

and the fps cap is disabled too

[light spruce]

That part is optional. You can have up to two additional 4-pin connectors if the power through the board isn't enough

[graceful sequoia]

close discord lol

[median wraith]

I don't have discord just the browser

[graceful sequoia]

close browser lol

[median wraith]

how is that even related ?

[graceful sequoia]

I'm lol for memes (not judgment), it's a good question but it can be

close everything, see what you get

if it's not that then yeah I dunno

[median wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdxYfLSErGo&ab_channel=WildGamerSK this dude have the same FPS I got in 4K

on a worst version of my GPU

I'm on 1440p

[pearl elk]

what PCIE bus you got, is it 3?

[median wraith]

yeah

[graceful sequoia]

I almost want to start FC5 and see how it goes on the bigboi

[median wraith]

well the bus version from 3 to 4 is proven it changes on their best 5FPS

no 50FPS

[pearl elk]

it depends if it becomes a bottleneck or not though

most benchmarks are done in best case scenarios

[graceful sequoia]

yeah PCIE 4.0 is not relevant to gfx cards just yet

you use it for SSD

[quasi mantle]

Figured out that I got high blood pressure, it was around 80/122 or so

[graceful sequoia]

it's the parents

[median wraith]

The HDD its at 1%

[quasi mantle]

They called I'm at risk for hypertension if it keeps rising

[graceful sequoia]

hey hoodie you down to start a robot body fund, dev project and timeshare?

[quasi mantle]

wdym?

[median wraith]

lol

[graceful sequoia]

could be very lucrative. We've got ponkis who's interested in the legs, Justin who's interested in the arms, me who's interested in the back, and you who's interested in the blood pressure and stress systems

[median wraith]

I got falls to 40FPS now

[graceful sequoia]

together we can make a true control rig controlled AI driven time share robot body

[quasi mantle]

Am I missing a cyberpunk joke here?

[graceful sequoia]

since it was my idea, I'll of course take the lion's share of the time share

[pearl elk]

tbh that wattage looks way too low

[light spruce]

I have no interest in timesharing anything

[graceful sequoia]

ok, we can sublicense

[quasi mantle]

I swear I feel like it flew off my head

[pearl elk]

you dont have it in power savings mode?

[light spruce]

Probably "optimal power" which is another way of saying "broken driver default"

[graceful sequoia]

we were complaining about our various old person ailments and wanting to create a robot body. ponkkis is not confident in their control rig skills, so your elected

it's a multi year project, I've got a set of NDAs for you, check the DMs :-P

[median wraith]

something is lookint totally wrong

it rise to 250w

[pearl elk]

yup I can see that, its barely working, you shouldnt be getting low temps under load

does it have a switch on the card for a silent profile?

see that looks better

[graceful sequoia]

have you thought about switching to an Intel gpu?

I hear it's very efficient

[pearl elk]

Apparently he has one onboard 😛

[graceful sequoia]

yeah not even any dollar investment beyond what you've got

[pearl elk]

sell the 3070ti, profit

[graceful sequoia]

pat gelsinger approved ™️

bringing it way back, I'm worried about the precedent of that apple thing

[pearl elk]

invasion of privacy after campaigning for privacy?

[graceful sequoia]

your hired erm, partnered. NDAs, DMs. Definitely not stealing your work for my own benefit why would you say that

[graceful sequoia]

yeah I guess but more importantly the precedent it's going to set

google follows apple in all things apps. When the door is open it won't just be protecting kids, as much as we would agree it's a well intentioned thing

[pearl elk]

Its a tricky one, tbh they should leave the police work for the people qualified to do it as much as I want these weirdos off the streets

if they want to make it easier for police once they have warrants fair enough

[graceful sequoia]

yeah that would be better then having the same AI scan our shit that determines whether a person in an image is a person despite being black

[median wraith]

I bet the 970 would return me the same FPS

[light spruce]

Once implemented, it's going to be trivial to use this against a different data set - like documents shared by a whistleblower to journalists.

[pearl elk]

they do mention iCloud and I suppose in that case its alittle different to files on a phone, that is probably less of an invasion of privacy because there cant really be much of an expectation when you put something online

[light spruce]

You do have an expectation of privacy when you put something online that isn't public

[graceful sequoia]

what resolution?

[light spruce]

Though not necessarily from a legal perspective

[pearl elk]

yeah but Apple owns those servers and can get out of it in their terms

[light spruce]

Of course.

Here's the thing

[graceful sequoia]

yeah I mean icloud is one thing... having the phone constantly scan your stuff and report you is hard to be ok with

[pearl elk]

I use secure folders on my phone, I totally expect full privacy there on my device

[light spruce]

Their response to legal requests has been "We absolutely can't do that because we physically have no way to access that data."

Now they will.

[pearl elk]

so will hackers 😛

there goes Apples case for security against Epic, boom mic drop lol

[light spruce]

Because if they compare "hashes" (since they're hashes but hashes of weird shit) they can then have someone manually review the contents.

[pearl elk]

if you hate someone just grab their phone, upload something dodgy to icloud... winning

[light spruce]

Backdoors decrease security by introducing new attack surfaces... which is why you can't have backdoors in encryption... And now they want to put a backdoor into it.

[graceful sequoia]

cheaper gamz, this is the point of it

[light spruce]

no no... you're thinking way too hard

So what is going to stop scammers from randomly texting iPhone users with child porn for Apple to detect and then turn over to the cops?

[median wraith]

1440

[pearl elk]

take down all iphones, I like the sound of that

[graceful sequoia]

than yeah 970 might be comparable unless your turning on some rtx thing or other

[pearl elk]

but also what about all those young girls who prefer Apple, I kinda feel like they dont know their audience very well. I mean what does child abuse actually look like... how does an AI know, I just dont see it as feasible tbh

[graceful sequoia]

what is iphone, is that a knockoff samsung

[pearl elk]

its a fashion accessory that takes good selfies

[graceful sequoia]

not as good as pixel, suck it

[zinc matrix]

eye phone?

more like eefone

[median wraith]

I get the correct FPS when I look to the ground

[zinc matrix]

that's my knock off brand

[median wraith]

😂

[graceful sequoia]

"Eek!"

[light spruce]

pixels have shit camera hardware

[pearl elk]

Apple could just ban instagram, thats probably easier than using AI to scan photos 😛

[graceful sequoia]

that's all you need though, play the game like you do in real life, never making eye contact

[light spruce]

if they applied their software to decent hardware... they'd have great results

[zinc matrix]

Who runs around without looking at the ground anyway? Wouldn't want to trip on anything

[light spruce]

It's also why random-ass versions of gcam are so common with custom roms

[graceful sequoia]

there's a hell of a lot of detail down there

[pearl elk]

how did Apple not call the AirPods... iPods

[zinc matrix]

that could be a game mechanic an annoying one at that

trip probability increases the further you look up from the ground XD

[graceful sequoia]

life simulator, game dev edition

[graceful sequoia]

two words, bad product planning

[median wraith]

idk will waiting to get the new computer and see if its something going on with the GPU or its the actual computer

[light spruce]

This might surprise you, but not only can I hold eye contact with someone, I can also have a conversation.

[zinc matrix]

wot

you should be a public speaker or something

[pearl elk]

eye contact is for those strange sociable types

[zinc matrix]

sounds like some inspirational stuff right there

[graceful sequoia]

would you be interested in providing test data for an ai robot timeshare body

[pearl elk]

I have to sanitise my hands after every conversation

[zinc matrix]

at least eye contact is a cultural thing

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/gopher-excited-dancing-happy-dance-gif-9886558

[graceful sequoia]

captioned "Intel, the plucky young upstart"

[light spruce]

I'm only terrible at communication online.

[pearl elk]

that sounds like something to add to the resume

[light spruce]

Step one: Create a resume

[pearl elk]

Step two: Jack up ya car

[light spruce]

I skip that step by leaving it on blocks

Besides, you don't need to jack up your car to get that James Bond Effect

[pearl elk]

ejector seat is step 5

Intel wrote step 6-7007KF7i9

[light spruce]

The joys of bad Chinese translations

In addition to those fender flares, you can also get the James Bond Effect by turning up the boost on an SR-20... you'll get both a smoke cloud and an oil slick.

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/I1USz/6e880c9dda.png

hows this for Bond Effect

thats a Holden LC Torana with a Ferrari V12 lol

[light spruce]

I don't see the James Bond effect there

I feel at this point you clearly don't know the reference

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/james-bond-spy-007-gif-15947181

[zinc matrix]

Jimbo Bondi

[light spruce]

@pearl elk https://youtu.be/RTb-z3gwzrE?t=599

[pearl elk]

Man those cars are worth abit these days lol

[light spruce]

busted-ass 180s?

[pearl elk]

yup lol anything Nissan is primo

Its like those 10yr old games they want $40 for

[median wraith]

🤖

[light spruce]

I could bid on an S14 Sylvia imported to the states... woo.

[pearl elk]

is it already imported?

[light spruce]

Yeah

[pearl elk]

you gotta be super careful on importing from Japan, cars tend to get left near the ocean for ages and they rust like crazy from the salt

[light spruce]

Oh, I know. I'm not really interested in a Sylvia anyway

just something that came up when I was looking to see how much these shitty 240SXs go for now

[pearl elk]

Ive seen heaps of people in the US complaining on YouTube being burnt on JDM imports

especially skylines

[light spruce]

Oh, gross. One of the not terribly common coupes got a bid to 5300... so I guess they wanted more than that for it... 141k miles

Wow. Clean, 40k mile '89 with a dogshit auto transmission sold for $12k

Guess I can mark those off my apocalypse project car list

[pearl elk]

yup youre better off importing a Ford from Australia 😛

Barras are better than any Nissan straight 6

[light spruce]

I wasn't going to import anything.

[pearl elk]

I was gonna import a wife

[light spruce]

The 180SX is a 240SX here with a KA24DE engine

Up to... 92? 93? When the 240SX was the S14 Sylvia

If I was going to import something... it'd be something fucking dumb

[pearl elk]

a banana car

[light spruce]

Though I can't fit in most of those weird Japanese cars

Hell, I can barely fit in the not weird ones

[pearl elk]

the new Subaru WRX

[light spruce]

Does it have the same engine they've been using since Prometheus brought us fire?

[pearl elk]

https://www.hotcars.com/the-hoonigans-check-out-a-pristine-widebody-nissan-300zx/

Its the new BRZ engine with a turbo

2.2l boxer

sucked when they went to the 1.8 from the 2l originally

US didnt get the ones before the bug eyes though

[light spruce]

They've used the engine from the BRZ since 2015... right after it became "just" the WRX

[pearl elk]

yeah but its a new engine in the BRZ this year

last one was a 2l there was a few issues with torque so they make it bit bigger with the 2.2l

oh wait no Im wrong its 2.4l now

Its an uplift of about 25HP over the 2021 and 30 lb-ft of torque

[light spruce]

yep

[pearl elk]

Im hoping they will finally roll with the concept style lights

https://subarumodel.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/2022-Subaru-WRX-Exterior.jpg

[light spruce]

it doesn't really look all that different

[pearl elk]

thats not really what it looks like, as far as I know they havent showed the 2022 yet

https://media.caradvice.com.au/image/private/s--URqVhBub--/v1515792554/252191a277a44f1325dbabbfdc57b3ca.jpg

[light spruce]

I'd be a heretic and get one with the CVT

[foggy path]

I saw some dude riding one of those that was customized to look more like some sort of harley davidson type of deal

[light spruce]

The future of "it's hot outside"

[pearl elk]

Im just gonna be here in Australia laughing at all the US peeps driving around in EVs cuz they cant buy petrol

[light spruce]

I'll just be driving around in a hybrid while still being able to buy "petrol"

[pearl elk]

you might have to import a hybrid lol, US automakers are part of the push for EVs

[light spruce]

None of that shit is going to happen any time soon

[pearl elk]

less than 10yrs and most of em wont sell anything but EVs

[foggy path]

I think EU is planning on banning ICE's by 2035

[pearl elk]

yeah US automakers are following because they dont want to be left behind, they want to compete with the Euro makers like VW, BMW, etc

[foggy path]

But yeah I think I might get a plugin hybrid next, but I don't even have a charging thingy for it so I'm not sure when I'll get one

I currently drive a thirsty V8 lol

[light spruce]

Real doubtful. We absolutely don't have the infrastructure for it here and the US is composed of more than SoCal and the northeast

[pearl elk]

my straight 6 takes 7L of oil 😮

Its not so much about whether you can support it, they see Teslas stock price and want some of that. Ford and GM pulled out of Australia entirely and alot of companies are dumping models left and right which is a clear sign they are struggling

the only Ford which sells here atm is the Ranger

[light spruce]

That's because companies somehow manage to do a great job at ignoring economic conditions.

Shit is expensive and people can't afford it

[pearl elk]

well who realistically buys a new model of car every year, I think expectations are unrealistic plus they need to make significant updates to cars to make buying a new model worth it. They spend so much retooling for minor updates just to try to maximise sales

[light spruce]

I would also take a hard pass on Ford and GM both, so... #gameplay-aintcare

[pearl elk]

that was just two examples, Dodge is making an EV soon too

[light spruce]

Most of them really only have like .. three platforms at most

I routinely forget that Dodge even exists

[pearl elk]

Holden actually only had a single platform for all their locally made cars

that was part of why they were awesome

[light spruce]

I'd like a Challenger body with absolutely everything else replaced by someone I might consider competent

So, at this point, Toyota, probably

[pearl elk]

Challenger has an amazing dash cluster and console, one of the best Ive seen

[foggy path]

the new Lexus LC is a very good looking car

expensive as fuck though

[pearl elk]

Camrys are a POS, only reason Toyota does alright here is the Hilux

we have a running joke here about dented Camrys, people who buy em cant drive for shit 😛

[foggy path]

Isn't it like one of the top selling cars

figures there'd be lots of folks denting 'em

plus what I hear the average american has no idea how to take car of their vehicle anyway

only things with dents you see here is old pieces of shit that aren't worth the money to repair it lol

[pearl elk]

top selling cuz they are cheap thats about it, hell Id take a Hyundai over a Toyota these days

[light spruce]

people in general can't drive for shit

Even moreso when they don't bother to pay attention

[pearl elk]

Toyotas arnt worth repairing I guess thats the joke

[foggy path]

I see people on bicycles staring at their phones, I have no freaking idea how these people survive lol

[pearl elk]

you throw them away like an old phone

[foggy path]

well they are worth it here at least :P

[light spruce]

Everything is about timing, really

[foggy path]

well maintained toyotas keep going forever

[pearl elk]

I was reading about a Japanese influencer, she was a crane operator... she fell out of her crane to her death phone in hand

[foggy path]

and since cars here are more expensive in general due to taxation, folks tend to try to take better care of them I guess

[light spruce]

You can do a lot of dumb shit just as long as it doesn't time align with someone else doing dumb shit

[pearl elk]

lol bullshit only old toyotas last the new ones are junk

leave in the sun and they'd melt

[foggy path]

I can find over a 100 toyotas newer than 2010 with over 120 000 miles on them

I'd say they last just fine

[pearl elk]

120000 miles is nothing

[foggy path]

more than most people will ever drive in any car they own

:P

[pearl elk]

theres 15yr old Falcons with 600000ks mate

[light spruce]

Let's just keep moving the goalposts

[foggy path]

I know there's a mercedes taxi here with over a million on the clock

[pearl elk]

how many toyotas over 10 yrs old yuo see

[foggy path]

I guess the 15 year old falcons are trash since they don't do that :P

[pearl elk]

like none cuz they all scrap lol

[foggy path]

there's over a thousand of them for sale here

[pearl elk]

hey Mercedes is great

Im talking about Toyota being trash

[light spruce]

Here, let me step in and translate

[pearl elk]

a thousand... for the best selling car, good joke

[light spruce]

"You're being an idiot."

[foggy path]

how about this one

Hilux with 5 million km's on it

:P

[pearl elk]

old Hilux is great

[light spruce]

"OH BUT THAT'S OLD"

[foggy path]

you literally just said old toyotas are scrap

[pearl elk]

yeah 1990 is OLD

[foggy path]

which ones are the ones that aren't scrap?

:P

[pearl elk]

not 2000's old

Camrys like I said

2000 on

[foggy path]

here's an avensis with 2 million

[pearl elk]

all JUNK

dude you found 1 car you havent even heard running

just stop

[light spruce]

Okay, now I don't need to translate

[light spruce]

You're being an asshole.

[pearl elk]

all pictures wow

[foggy path]

how many more do you want me paste?

:P

[pearl elk]

as many as you like they all junk and broke for all you know

[foggy path]

oh yeah I'm sure you've also owned many toyotas from the 2000s that were driven this much

[pearl elk]

I got an opinion, thats all it is

[foggy path]

and based on this personal knowledge you're saying they're junk

lol

[pearl elk]

you got nothing that can change my mind

[foggy path]

Yeah I just wanted to test how full of shit your comments were

and I found out

:p

[light spruce]

Seriously. Just go stand in your bathtub and scream about how great <manufacturer> is and how shit <manufacturer> is so you can have your echo chamber all to yourself and stop looking like such a dickhead all of a sudden.

[pearl elk]

yeah and you just got blocked for being an idiot

just cuz theres some junkers for sale means nothing

[pearl elk]

whats it matter my opinion on Toyota?

you guys are being all defensive like you own shares

[light spruce]

The part where you just started acting like a super asshole about it for no reason

[pearl elk]

I already said theyre a running joke here

its cuz I said Hyundais are better right

[light spruce]

Great. You can run wherever you want with that joke, because I don't care.

[pearl elk]

lol yeah all this talk proves that, I was ready to move on

1990s Supras are actually some of my personal favourites but since then... nope

chad is US American right?

Ive just never met anyone here named Chad, plenty of Matts

maybe Brett can fill in for Chad

[median wraith]

how much these cost 2€?

Isn't like here you can find second hand decent cars at all

[pearl elk]

yeah I dunno about these meme things, too much of an asshole for that 😛

[foggy path]

the avensis with 2 million on it is 1500 eur, the hiace with 900k is 9 000 eur, the other hiace is 14 000

[median wraith]

people give it in irder to get back 3000€ on the next purchase and so on

[foggy path]

land cruiser 10k eur

[pearl elk]

I'll give you the Land Cruiser

[foggy path]

I have no idea who'd pay that kinda money for it but that's the asking price

lol

[median wraith]

2 millions and how many years old,?

[foggy path]

the avensis is 2001 model

[median wraith]

tbh this people here sell the cars super expensive

like they sell a Dacia for 6000euros 10 years old

[foggy path]

the price on the avensis is kinda realistic assuming it's overall in good shape, the 10k on the land cruiser feels kinda excessive lol

[median wraith]

and a new dacia is 8000

[pearl elk]

yeah second hand car market is stupid cuz of the chip shortage

[median wraith]

so what's the fucking point

[pearl elk]

buying a new car is really difficult atm

[median wraith]

hows that,?

[pearl elk]

they dont have enough chips to make em

so you have an 8 month waiting period at best

[median wraith]

Man these Dacias dont even have electrics at all 🤖

I was looking for these renault captur but not sure about

[pearl elk]

all cars have electrics, or do you light the petrol with a match?

[median wraith]

these kind of cars for almost 30.000€ its like... jesus, 10 years ago for 30.000 you can get a decent audi

and our income is the same

[pearl elk]

Audis are pretty amazing these days, not cheap but a R spec is on par with a Tesla price

[median wraith]

yeah nobody here have these

[light spruce]

I'm just going to telecommute on my balls

[pearl elk]

BMW and Audi both have R specs pushing 600HP+

[median wraith]

we still got 2 charging points in the whole city, plus nobody can pay these lol

[pearl elk]

Toyota got nothing like that shrugs

hell VW Golf would take on most of their catalog without flinching

probably tow a Hilux with it lol

[median wraith]

oh no

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: TadeuAriasVillares#4424 was banned.

[dense storm]

a lot are

but they get a message, and can appeal

[light spruce]

!8ball should ponkkis be the new moderator?

[turbid spindle]

@light spruce, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

[light spruce]

Looks like your license plate on your scooter reads "SUX2BM3"

[pearl elk]

its got to the point when I see the word bitcoin I just zone out

[dense storm]

Then they can't appeal using normal methods, but that is a good point.

[pearl elk]

they unblock DMs then appeal, then reblock

[light spruce]

I don't think you can even get DMs from people you don't share a server with anymore

[pearl elk]

so we need a holding cell for undesirables

county lockup while they await trial and execution by firing squad

https://tenor.com/view/angry-jim-carrey-gif-4011721

[quasi mantle]

Geez, those spammers giving me false hope, marking the channels as having unreads.
Hoping to answer questions while I'm on the go (because waiting in hospital doing nothing sucks) just to found no new messages.

Some people are that gullible, it seems 🤔

[light spruce]

!8ball Should ponkkis be banned?

[turbid spindle]

@light spruce, :8ball: Yes.

[quasi mantle]

[light spruce]

Discord, it's a wonderful platform.

proof that I am superior

[foggy path]

!8ball is discord a wonderful platform

[turbid spindle]

@foggy path, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[foggy path]

!8ball should zomg be made a moderator

[turbid spindle]

@foggy path, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[foggy path]

you heard it, chop chop

[light spruce]

did you ever sort out your interface wheel of death?

[foggy path]

Yeah

I just use some math to calculate which segment should be activated

[light spruce]

Did you build it programattically instead?

[foggy path]

yeah pretty much, it was already being generated like that but the events were proving to be the issue

[light spruce]

I think that the only time I've ever liked a circular menu type of thing has been with an addon I used with WoW

[foggy path]

there's quite a few games that use it, nowadays it's popular with weapon selection wheels

[light spruce]

And it was kinda like the Secret of Mana ring thing

[foggy path]

battlefield and some others also use it as a command wheel

[light spruce]

Yeah, I typically haven't been a big fan of them

[foggy path]

I think correctly implemented they can be quite good, because it requires less accuracy

[light spruce]

It's usually some combination of not knowing what's going to be where, the slice content not being visually distinct, and having to move the mouse about twelve feet to select something

[foggy path]

yeah, a lot of games implement it poorly :P

[light spruce]

I also think they're super dumb when you have like four things on it... and you're using a keyboard.

Also, why the hell can everyone not make weapon/item hotkeys toggles?

If I hit 5 to equip my Fart Patcher... if I hit 5 again.. just... put me back on whatever I had equipped before

[burnt lake]

pepsi

[foggy path]

https://tenor.com/KQVO.gif

[foggy path]

I wonder if I drew two circles with dots in the middle would it consider that explicit

it does not

[median wraith]

I'm looking for a Gigabyte motherboard any of you have exp with these or recommend others ?

[cursive crypt]

Kinda not happy with their solution for zen3

[median wraith]

hows that ?

I'm looking to plug a AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz

[mossy nexus]

Why Gigabyte?

[median wraith]

My last 2 computers with these motherboards where the best

on that side

and ASUS didn't return me any good exp

[mossy nexus]

Have a look at the ones listed here. I've got a MSI A Pro, and no complaints. https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/motherboards-amd/2928/2929/2930

[broken sigil]

Every single motherboard I had was from Asrock, never had a problem with them
For the 5950x I got the x570 taichi

[light spruce]

Bring back PC Chips.

[median wraith]

well 8 years is nice I think ?

my 970 its gigabyte and did nice too

idk

so what do you use now ?

[mossy nexus]

indeed.

[carmine frigate]

i liked it better w/o expensive prizes..

[median wraith]

this means, people from all the world will come for the water

[carmine frigate]

there is no way to check if stuff is just copy pasted into a project

[median wraith]

last and first I entered a lot of teams came to the jam

[carmine frigate]

cant put sorta big prizes on a competition and expect every1 to play fair

i might make something, but prolly get bored half way and dont submit

done over 25 submissions so far, last time mine got the lowest rating out of 300 submissions 🙂

so i got that goin for me

i got some positive feedback on I am Boris and Gamey Mcgameface:p

[mossy nexus]

same. if you need bad walk cycles and sliding hands on the floor I'm your guy 😄

woot!

It turns out that the guy making the free mocap is also going to do facial mocap too, which is totally awesome sauce

He really hates how mocap in general has turned into this super expensive thing, when in reality it doesn't need to be.

All kinda weird considering his phd is in philosophy 😄

😄

His set up is minimum of two cheapo webcams, and his software. No beer or pens required so yeah... expensive.... 😄

[carmine frigate]

could make a lounge team for this gamejam, but im prolly gunna do some VR stuff, cuz thats basically the only thing i havent done yet 😛

[foggy path]

Leisure Suit Manny in the Land of #lounge Lizards

[carmine frigate]

@zinc matrix its not like we are all a bunch of slackers 😛

[light spruce]

"WE'LL BE UP TO OUR BALLS IN JUGGLERS"

[quasi mantle]

Gonna redeem myself for the gamedev speedrun

[stoic turtle]

Hey whats the name of the yellow black thingy in english

Oh footpath , thanks google

I think thats the material for it , thanks too!

[median wraith]

I have to show this to alex

https://youtu.be/r3E0AaNBtHo

[celest musk]

actually... an animal shelter in germany wants to put some cats on tinder in the next weeks

they call it the purrfect match 😄

[median wraith]

lmao

[mossy nexus]

pavement 😉

Unless you want American and not English 😄

[stoic turtle]

Pavement is the flat walking surface too tho

I wanted the strips only

[mossy nexus]

Yeah, the black and yellow bits are kerbs

[stoic turtle]

Oh kerbs works well! Alright thanks

[deep glen]

https://twitter.com/Luos_83/status/1423635041444405248

Luos_83 (@Luos_83)

buddy @JKashaar was complaining about some material he saw. So I made him this.

I'm particularly proud of that clamp up there.

Twitter · Aug 6, 2021, 1:20 PM

https://fxtwitter.com/Luos_83/status/1423751020954492928

[mossy nexus]

Awesome sauce! A new FX pack confirmed! 😄

[deep glen]

hehe

[mossy nexus]

Welll... basically take some nodes, add some random nodes, watch some tutorials online and fail to grasp anything and add some more nodes because you never know... it just might work. Then post in #ue4-general with a out of focus picture taken when drunk with your phone.

[deep glen]

and then tell people who actually know their stuff that they shouldnt reply if they dont have any experience.

its a nightmare that kills kittens

[mossy nexus]

Hmmm are you the guy from #level-design ?? 😄

[deep glen]

shots fired moa

[mossy nexus]

C'est non.

Well, I is goin' to pub. No idea if it's open or if it's rabid cesspool of Covid. More likely it will be practically empty and I'll be back here within the hour.

[pearl elk]

I feel like Im the only one who doesnt care about Steam Deck. Maybe Im just too old to care bout being in with the cool kids

I play mobile games from time to time but the simplified control scemes make it easier to do while I watch TV. Its not like I play comp shooters where you cant pause, changing trains and you die in Apex lol legit

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/tonnin-seteli-pokerface-stare-hate-gif-11427490

[pearl elk]

Valve invents sliced bread and the crowd goes wild

Gabe should start a grunge band, Boomers and the Shooters

[light spruce]

Make sure you also preface it by saying, "i no my bp is messy but its wip so w/e"

[pearl elk]

Buy a Toyota and increase your BP

Its what the cool kids are doing

[light spruce]

What did I do?

[pearl elk]

Which segways into my sponsor

Segway, mobility for everyone

• buy segways at your own risk please gamble responsibly*

[light spruce]

I'll just say that modo is the best

and see how many redbull and gins I can drink

[pearl elk]

Aloynus

[light spruce]

I couldn't ever figure out what I was doing with Maya. Back when I tried Blender, the UI was just as awful as every other piece of software and they had that right click select thing. I also haven't used max in .. I don't know.. eight years

[pearl elk]

2021 in gaming: Delayed until 2022

tbh I never cared about which DCC people use as long as it works for them, same with programming languages. My opinions dont matter cuz factz mane

people gonna keep on keepin on regardless, more power to them

now if we could just teach people how to take screenshots theres a life changer

https://puu.sh/I21rs/44c297c66f.jpg

please halp... how 2 b kewl?

[broken sigil]

lol

[pearl elk]

JJ Abrahams is my inspirations

[light spruce]

There is at least one thing that professional applications and games have in common

Their UIs are universally complete garbage

Different keys...

[pearl elk]

and none of them have the control scheme right yet lol

[light spruce]

Different keys... there's not even a consensus on which direction things should pan/rotate

[pearl elk]

orbit around selection 4 lyfe

but then how do you manipulate outside of the selection while orbiting around said selection

[light spruce]

When I got a SpaceMouse for doing some CAD type stuff... that was all sorts of weird. Their idea is that the controller should be treated as "handling the object"

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/saved-by-the-bell-wow-dafuq-mindblown-gif-8960821

[light spruce]

So, you don't move the view closer to the object.. you move the object closer your view

[pearl elk]

orbit on object selection not subobject selection but is that actually orbiting the selected selection

[light spruce]

Orbiting a selection is generally what I want to do

Panning introduces some weird issues

Because it's context dependent

Are you moving the view or are you grabbing the content and moving it out of view?

[pearl elk]

I always thought SpaceMouse needed a Babylon Zoo cover for their advertisements

[light spruce]

See also: Apple's default "natural" scrolling that doesn't make any sense on a trackpad or scrollwheel... but on a touch display, makes perfect sense

I was installing Mac OS on something yesterday... and even in the very limited amount of scrolling I needed to do... that pissed me off immediately

Like people who invert their view controls in games. You are objectively wrong.

Up is up, down is down, god dammit

[pearl elk]

I dunno I have alot of respect for pilots

[light spruce]

My dad does that.... but only with a controller.

I have no idea how his brain works.

It only makes sense on flight controls from a historical mechanical perspective, really

[pearl elk]

yeah but flappy things down is planey waney uppy duppy

[light spruce]

I did some weird shit flying helos in Battlefield. up/down were inverted on my keyboard, but my mouse wasn't. Though it's a little less weird if you understand how a helicopter works. They only go forward if you pitch the nose down, meaning you push the collective forward

[pearl elk]

it works just like swallows carrying coconuts

[light spruce]

Collective. Christ. Cyclic. I do actually know about helicopters.

You pull up on the collective to increase the angle of attack on the blades (to generate lift) and push forward on the cyclic to push the nose down.. and that's how you fly forward.

[burnt lake]

?

[mossy nexus]

Helichoppers go brrr

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-predator-get-to-the-chopper-get-to-the-choppa-gif-16195562

[burnt lake]

https://image.prntscr.com/image/deZq8SAiRU2LQ5DcueSa-g.png

[light spruce]

Since I don't know shit about memes (because they're almost universally dumb) I missed out on whatever this <thing> goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRR shit is

[light spruce]

WELCOME TO REDDIT

... I just realized that's probably a manned flight and that's a gif of someone dying.

[regal pecan]

We all die a little every day.
That was just a gif of someone dying a lot.

(Though it could also have been crash testing.)

[light spruce]

I'm already pretty dead inside. I don't know that I can die any more.

[quasi mantle]

You can't create memes in Renderware.

wait

[regal pecan]

Create a meme in discord. I'll wait.

[light spruce]

I am a meme

[quasi mantle]

Cyberpunk 2077

[quasi mantle]

ngl I feel this kind of thought after (uncomfortably) sleeping in hospital this night

[thorny dock]

come on Cyberpunk was a fun experience from launch to periodically popping on it today. theres always something to experience in night city, from genuinely great parts of the game, to genuinely hilarious bugs, to genuinely hilarious design overlooks. just the other day I spent a few minutes running around and I found an interactive spot light, with an in game spotlight already baked in, but when you turn on the spotlight a second bright dynamic spotlight spawns over the baked light. thats a good time for me, dont judge.

also night city is not really much different from the west coast of the US

im literally the main character in real life, always dramatically going on about how "this city" will chew you up and spit you out with no remorse, shift your ideals, destroy all your humanity, blah blah blah blah

I would say the biggest difference between cyberpunk and IRL US West is that people here aren't walking around with the VR looking glasses, but the rest is accurate

[humble remnant]

A matter of time until they do