lounge

[zinc matrix]

Wait what? Surprised they wouldn't forget about that...

That is true

[quasi mantle]

Shocker, I know.

[cursive crypt]

df with all the pink 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Gotta use them free boost

[cursive crypt]

Mere white

[zinc matrix]

Hoard it all for the unreal slackers)))

[fathom wadi]

I got mine and it said the code had already been used 😦

[cursive crypt]

I kinda have already that nitro, but no pink

[quasi mantle]

You already have it going

[cursive crypt]

Ah, I have the Lite version

[fathom wadi]

I tried again and it gave me another error

[quasi mantle]

I finally able to spill my inner weebs with the emojis

[zinc matrix]

...

[quasi mantle]

[zinc matrix]

please. Cease

(jk, no spam though)

[quasi mantle]

の

Where were we again? Oh right, Unity.

[fathom wadi]

hmm it might have worked now

I guess so

[deep glen]

XD one more boost and we can stream 4k/60 fps

[fathom wadi]

hah nice emoji as its my birthday 🙂

[deep glen]

kinda lame it doesnt last that long though

at least make it 3 months or so

the boost only lasts a week i think

[cursive crypt]

lmao

It will be a short pink wave.

[deep glen]

yay, 4k 60fps

thanks

i might be

< nub at nitro

[quasi mantle]

4K 60 FPS coming at Unreal Slackers

Just use 3 CRTs combined lmao

Older CRTs were built for crazy MS-DOS refresh rates (some can go higher than 85 Hz

[broken quiver]

i have an ancient HP 1280x1024 you can run at 75hz, but if you do for too long random red lines start appearing allover the screen

and it looks like a broken monitor

[quasi mantle]

Gosh, that makes me want to visit the US and buy an IBM PC XT, and then retrofit it with god tier AMD gaming PC.

The dream ultimate sleeper PC

What's Unity again?

[timber viper]

Stop mentioning the devil please

Its forbidden here

[quasi mantle]

I'm going to test the bomb...

[timber viper]

I have not, waiting a 8 hours package build failure to turn it off

Because I'm lazy

[quasi mantle]

bomb has been defused

[timber viper]

Seeing people all pink/purple (or whatever) makes me feel weird

[humble remnant]

Have some white

[timber viper]

You're great

[quasi mantle]

Also Unreal Slackers reached 30 boosts

[timber viper]

I am 30th one

[deep glen]

thanks for the boosts peeps :)

[cursive crypt]

But it will disappear after the timer goes out?

[quasi mantle]

Seems like it would last until our Nitro worn out.

Also tell pfist to have server banner 👀

[deep glen]

will do hoodie

[timber viper]

I just cant wait to use the gifs everywhere

[quasi mantle]

I think you have to install Discord from Epic Launcher

[humble remnant]

I probs would've boosted if I had a free one, but if I remove what I'm currently boosting I'll lose out emotes that I frequently use

Goddamn unpopular servers and them sitting at 15 boosts

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix what worked for me was going back to the Epic Launcher to "GET" it. Then it did a sale process. After that I had the option to apply it from the EGS. At which point I registered my email with it and rebooted discord and the option was in my Nitro settings

[humble remnant]

Light mode?

[lucid walrus]

I'm guessing you haven't tried the architecture, architecture VR or automotive visualization presets (not demos, though, but actual presets that come within the engine). They pretty much broke the point release after they got released, and I don't think still have been fixed.

[humble remnant]

[quasi mantle]

Well, sorry, we're not enterprise users, so we rarely touched those template.

Though last time I do worked in enterprise capacity, the template works in 4.25

My UE installations don't have template stuff though, so not sure if it's the exact same story with 4.26+

[timber viper]

Your overclocked 75hz monitor does not deserve this

Its only for users that not used nitro before

Maybe thats why you didnt receive any email

I was almost blind

Thanks

[ancient ingot]

Hmm

[finite jackal]

what's dieter-ed mean?

[ancient ingot]

Why are people pink

[finite jackal]

nitro boosters

[ancient ingot]

Ahh

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/owl-serious-mad-come-again-what-did-you-just-say-gif-17134378

what have you done?

it look lavender purple

[timber viper]

I'm not surprised someone using white theme has sadistic thoughts

What does he do to us who does this to himself

[soft night]

its not about theme

most darkest theme users have more darkest thoughts

as even light avoid that place

[quasi mantle]

Dark theme all the way

[timber viper]

Discord's theme is not even dark at all

Grayish

Win98 is older than me

[quasi mantle]

Windows 98 is almost one year older than me.

So I pretty much used Windows 98 in my early youth computing days, and playing Starcraft.

[zinc matrix]

black and green theme>blue theme

[quasi mantle]

Commodore computers have quite a place in demoscene landscape

[timber viper]

I just remember XP

[quasi mantle]

I also remember Fedora 5, SuSE 9, Mandriva Linux 2005 (I think that's the year)

Back then I know nothing about computers, so I haphazardly install Linux on unused systems

(pssst, some youngins watched retro YouTubers)

The 8-Bit Guy is the one who goes into Commodore 64 BASIC, and briefly explain the stuff he did with it

And then channels like LGR who goes into slightly more modern (mostly 90s) side of the retro spectrum (also woodgrains).

[shell garden]

now port it to UE

nostalgia nerd is a good channel too

and modern vintage gamer, if you can put up with him repeating himself

[quasi mantle]

Why Paper2D when you can do it in UMG?

[median wraith]

All the users are nitro now

Well epic gives it for free

[bitter cloud]

anyone else getting pms from alimosavi looking for a job?

Kinda suspect he is mass PMing people rather than using the relevant channels

perhaps it wasn't a bulk message, odd he didn't respond when I asked whats up though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

turning off DMs globally sounds like it could be a good idea, been getting hit by a plague of "I reported your steam account by mistake" scams recently

[shell garden]

i reported your steam account deliberately

[bitter cloud]

Well, I guess thats OK then 😄

[quasi mantle]

I immediately closed his DM and blocked him.

He's might already in the moderators' watchlist.

[deep glen]

he is

he was on strike 2

https://giphy.com/gifs/krusovice-kralovska-volba-vybirej-kralovsky-tvoje-kralovstvi-bIf3P12qsKRPwdmpLj

https://giphy.com/gifs/thor-lightning-the-dark-world-Ch1zCx8tu6DQY

hey @gloomy holly

https://giphy.com/gifs/ban-banned-admin-fe4dDMD2cAU5RfEaCU

[bitter cloud]

interesting, name starting with ! - suspect he is going through alphabetically

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: alimosavi#4671 was banned.

[foggy path]

lol what was he spamming now

[deep glen]

spamming in dm's

[foggy path]

I saw he posted his portfolio pieces which looked stolen from somewhere on #gameplay-ai

[deep glen]

he posted them in almost all channels

[foggy path]

smart man

:D

[quasi mantle]

Not to mention seems stolen from Angry Birds and other games

[bitter cloud]

seems weird to spam stuff like that when there are legit channels to look for work or offer services

[quasi mantle]

He didn't respond to my reply about posting it in #work-in-progress either, but DM-ing for recruitment.

[deep glen]

yup

and he already had 2 strikes for the same thing so was keeping an eye out

10/10 expected him to do the same

[quasi mantle]

This is way better than God of War Ragnarok already 😛

That's God of War 2018
GoW Ragnarok is the direct sequel slated for 2022 release, and was hinted at the endgame with Thor hammer

[shell garden]

don't you love it when you download a game in a game launcher, only to discover it's actually a launcher just for that one game?

"cool, this game is only 300MB ... oh wait, the LAUNCHER is 300MB, and it's downloading 17GB"

[deep glen]

"oh you purchased game X trough stream? here is the ubi-launcher for that game"

asks for a refund

[shell garden]

gta5 being a major offender of this

can't get a refund for it though because epic gave it to me gratis 🙃

[deep glen]

i won it in a raffle so cant complain

[shell garden]

you can and will complain

embrace your inner karen

[deep glen]

I WANNA SPEAK TO THE MODERATOR

wait...

[turbid spindle]

:warning: You can't give yourself a strike.

[cursive crypt]

Bug in Manny's code. People should be able to self-punish.

[shell garden]

mean manny is mean

[deep glen]

pfist actually patched that out XD

he knew people like me would mess stuff up

[cursive crypt]

lol 👍

[quasi mantle]

Somehow reminds me of that SpongeBob episode of work strike

[shell garden]

is mayonnaise an instrument?

[quasi mantle]

yes

[shell garden]

i remember that happening to me once

pretty sure it was ubisoft

[quasi mantle]

EA Origin DRM is also a thing

[shell garden]

uplay/ubisoft connect/ubisoft backward/whatever bullshit it's called these days is probably the worst launcher

their website is broken as all hell

[quasi mantle]

Uplay or Rockstar Social Club
Which one is worse

[cursive crypt]

Nice, have a fun play when the time comes. It's a good game.
You can also play the campaign with someone, lol.

[quasi mantle]

Far Cry 5 protag is pretty much self insert, right?

[shell garden]

at least rockstar's launcher isn't buggy to the point of being broken

[cursive crypt]

Has really good cinematics. Gets annoying on the next replay, but... 🤷‍♂️

[shell garden]

also i got a download going atm so i decided to race launchers

blizzard beat both rockstar and uplay

uplay is still "initializing"

there it goes

[cursive crypt]

Later you can try some mods for it. You can tune up spawns for example. Say you want to have more rare, but stronger encounters or you want it to be a war on the roads.

[shell garden]

somewhere in the area of 180 seconds just to get uplay to show me what games i already have installed

apparently i'm running an obsolete version of battlenet

lol @ "all"

[foggy path]

raughs in GOG

[shell garden]

oh and uplay including demos in the "free games" section is also a major X against it

so yah, uplay is even worse than rockstar social club

wow blizzard refused to allow me to download their installer at dialup speeds

had to pause the other download 🙃

[quasi mantle]

[quasi mantle]

I mean, who blamed PlayStation for putting demos under Free Games section in their store either?

[shell garden]

i would have, if i ever used psn store 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Guys

Apparently I'm a robot

[frosty halo]

I mean.. I do have a day-job. In my case it'd probably be the lack of six figure sales 😛

[pearl elk]

hmm why do I feel like summer game fest is abit anti-climactic

[quasi mantle]

Which is weird because I have passed so many captchas over the years...

[pearl elk]

make some good games you lot, Im bored

[frosty halo]

I feel that way every time I don't see a "world premiere" of a game I want a sequel to

Also they need to stop using the term "world premiere" all the time

It's like when the news keeps using the term "since records began". Like guys do you burn records each year???

[pearl elk]

I dont mind Geoff Keighley but Im getting this hint of sellout vibe, Id rather not be excited about every single game in existence because people have personal tastes and not all titles will be to those tastes

if he was all like, Im particularly interested in this one Id believe him but the fake smile and the Amazon Prime plug is abit cheap

[frosty halo]

It's his job to be a shill/sellout. At least he isn't passively annoying like most presenters. I used to hate listening to Todd Howard present bethsoft games because of his voice. God i would rather have someone lobotomise me with a dull spoon

[quasi mantle]

Geoff Keighly has been sus to me for being sellout

There you go, I broke the industry insideout.

[pearl elk]

I dunno sometimes I get the vibe he is truly interested like when he covers Valve, you can tell he's a fanboy

its just odd to me with these game shows... I guess thats the right term, but when he did these shows originally it was to break away from E3 being too mainstream and big for its own good

now he's basically the same

[shell garden]

new battle.net app is a goddamn mess

i'm sure i own one of these COD games but it's a bitch trying to find which one it is

[frosty halo]

It's not as big or goofy like E3, they used to have some proper cringe moments, and all these super synthetic presenters who look like sock puppets in human form

Although E3 starts tomorrow and I wanna watch it

Wanna see who's on it and who releases what

[pearl elk]

but summer game fest is huge cringe

[quasi mantle]

I'm waiting if Final Fantasy XVI has some new things to unveil this E3

[pearl elk]

Id rather people who work on the actual game being involved not just paid actors

[shell garden]

maybe it's just that cod:warzone is free to play

[frosty halo]

I only cringed at Jeff Goldblum and Guss Fring (whatever his real name is)

I just want Mass Effect 4

;___;

Andromeda left me with a sour taste in my mouth

[pearl elk]

Last I checked most gamers were still over 30 yet I feel like Im watching an after school special

[quasi mantle]

I think Dragon Age was also teased

[pearl elk]

reminds me of that Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb stuff from back in the day

[frosty halo]

It's not made for us old bois

[shell garden]

next time i'm at my folks' place i should pick up my battlechests

[frosty halo]

It's for the zoomers

we just take whatever info we want and ignore the cringe

[shell garden]

i don't remember if i have the warcraft 3 one or not

[pearl elk]

everyone everyone... put your baby voices on

[quasi mantle]

watching as a youngin 22 year old

[frosty halo]

22... you have your whole life ahead of you

[shell garden]

i also have warcraft 2 "battle.net edition" and wc2 isn't even on the battle.net app anymore 🙃

[pearl elk]

I mean Geoff Keighley is like old enough to be my dad so maybe if they want to appeal to zoomers they shouldnt be so fake

old bois my ass 😛

[shell garden]

continues talking to himself

[frosty halo]

As a dad I can confirm anything I say - my kids think its fucking cringe, even if my wife finds it funny or clever

There;'s now winning as an older person

[pearl elk]

thing is if I find it cringe how must the zoomers feel

[shell garden]

i remember when AAA games came on pairs of 720kB floppies

[frosty halo]

You just disappear into the obscurity of time like a fart in the wind

[pearl elk]

hell zoomers are pretty old these days too

[cursive crypt]

Wonder how next gen will shit on millenials

[frosty halo]

In what way?

I can't relate to most modern games. Like my daughter loves "Life is cringe"

I can't stand the game

I tried it, and I find it to be utter tripe

[pearl elk]

maybe the whole show should be just in gif meme format

[frosty halo]

and the new one with the colors. Have any of you seen it?

The ability to tell emotions is now a superpower

[shell garden]

is this meant to be a proper progress bar or is it normal to be sitting here like this for ages?

[cursive crypt]

Toddlers nowadays are half living in the virtual.

[frosty halo]

It's a huge project.. Give it time

It took me near half an hour to import a metahuman into my editor

[shell garden]

pfft it's only 100GB

[frosty halo]

Like in their phones?

[shell garden]

it's a baby project

low poly

[cursive crypt]

Have a friend who is kindergarten teacher, heard enough stories.

[shell garden]

potato quality

[frosty halo]

That's shit parenting

[pearl elk]

toddlers know kung fu

[cursive crypt]

Aye, but is "common"

[frosty halo]

Offloading your child's care onto a device is not parenting

[pearl elk]

school will be a matter of minutes of virtual upload

no more tutorials for games yay

[cursive crypt]

Heck, probably notable part of parents have no freaking idea why they made kids.

[frosty halo]

And I should know. I have had to wfh for the last year and a half and take care of my toddler at the same time. Sometimes there's no winning, so you have to let tv be the nanny. Worst guilt i have ever felt when I have to do it

[shell garden]

wait so you're saying my parent simulator game is going to fail?

[cursive crypt]

Then split 5 years later

[frosty halo]

Include tasers and itll be a success

[pearl elk]

I made my kids out of ginger bread and cotton

[shell garden]

there's already a game like that

[cursive crypt]

That's from a tale.

[pearl elk]

wondertale

[shell garden]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/427730/Whos_Your_Daddy/ taser versus toddler

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[frosty halo]

Denuvo wouldn't be a thing if companies learned that $70-$90 for a game is not a realistic price for what they offer

[pearl elk]

I dont think there will be a solution to that issue unless I new OS comes in and makes proper services

[frosty halo]

Cause if games were value for money, people would buy them more, there'd be less piracy and denuvo wouldn't be as widely adopted

[pearl elk]

thing is you want a frontend, you dont want services connecting online in the background for privacy purposes

people would complain if those games didnt come as service models its because we all have become accustom to those benefits

[frosty halo]

There's maybe three-four games in the last two years that were actual VFM, the rest are paid public betas

[shell garden]

eArLy AcCeSs

[frosty halo]

The industry is actually getting a little bit brazen by having adopted the mentality that it is OK to release half a game and fix it (maybe) in flight, at full price. And now they're jacking up the cost of games as if they have been delivering value all along

[shell garden]

only game i've played where early access was worthwhile is streets of rogue

[frosty halo]

And you can't just blame game companies. Publishers are an absolute cancer too

[quasi mantle]

Laughs at Unreal Engine 5 early access

[frosty halo]

Yeah but its free and offers tons of value

[pearl elk]

yeah how dare Epic release Early Access

[quasi mantle]

How dare epic releases early access of UE5

[frosty halo]

Epic was such a shit-on company, but from a dev POV they're pretty damn amazing

Idk why people hated on Epic so much

[pearl elk]

Id release games early access if I got heaps of death threats on the internet too

[shell garden]

yah unreal engine isn't a game 🤷‍♀️

[frosty halo]

Its a product though

And a game is a product too

[pearl elk]

if publishers are cancer what are toxic gamers, bubonic plague?

[quasi mantle]

But then people haphazardly using it for actual production uses already

[shell garden]

streets of rogue, i played early access for like 2 years or something. it was great, and it became excellent. developer was very upfront about changes, timeline, and everything

[frosty halo]

I have a name for them, but nowadays it's a bannable word. It has the same ending as Microsoft Excel

[shell garden]

he fulfilled his promises, adding classes, features, and levels as development went on

[pearl elk]

sometimes the bugs are the fun part of the game 😛

[shell garden]

as opposed to being just a beta version of the "retail" release

[pearl elk]

you ever played an early access title had heaps of fun laughing with friends, come back when its full release and just thought... well this is underwhelming

[shell garden]

epic is also not charging people for it though

[quasi mantle]

Epic: "Please don't use UE5 for production just yet."

Impatient Users: "Bla bla bla screw you, I'm going to make game with UE5 from the get go. UE4 is too old, man."

Also impatient users: "Wait, why can't I do something I wanted in UE5? What's with those errors?"

Epic: "Told you."

[frosty halo]

social media gives too much power to idiots tbh. How a small bunch of people can band together on twitter and get small devs or even big companies to change course for the worst (sometimes) is beyond me. Absolute crap

[pearl elk]

part of games is the social aspects, not so much the product itself and you cant simply replicate those interactions

[shell garden]

or games that either never leave early access, or just rename a buggy and incomplete early access for the "released" version

[pearl elk]

yeah but is that a bad thing if youre done with the game anyway

[shell garden]

yup

streets of rogue is an example of how to do early access and make it work

[frosty halo]

I feel like we should go back to the golden era of gaming. When people made games cause they believed in the idea and liked doing it. Not this weird stuff we're crapping out these days.

[shell garden]

it me

[pearl elk]

Honestly if Cyberpunk 2077 were finished Im not sure Id go back because Ive put alot of hours in and had my fun already

[quasi mantle]

if

[pearl elk]

I can sit on the net and bitch about it but maybe thats all part of the experience

last DLC, but isnt the argument here a game should be released finished

[quasi mantle]

Honestly I'm waiting for them to rewrite the entire story. Keanu Reeves already co-wrote the story and messed things up.

[shell garden]

yah. definitely needs more alex winter and time travelling phone booths

[quasi mantle]

You're supposed to, and I quote, immerse yourself, but then V's life in on the line, like WTF

[pearl elk]

people have nostalgia goggles when they think about past games, Ive said this before but Myst had a game breaking bug at launch, it was impossible to complete yet it was still critically acclaimed because while bugs suck there is more to a game than a single piece

honestly I played so many half arsed games in my years as a gamer, you want to go back to DOS be my guest

[shell garden]

myst is a good example because there's also been like 17 different versions of the original game published

[quasi mantle]

How I would immerse myself and doing batshit things when my character that supposedly my self insert is nearly dead?

[pearl elk]

we used to have to buy magazines to get updates to broken games

[shell garden]

dos games that used the cpu clock as a timer were the most fun

[pearl elk]

these days you can boot up and app and it tells you all the drivers you need, all the apps you need, hell chrome will just automagically install all your crap

[quasi mantle]

Let alone trying to illegally download Doom 3 from a crappy internet

[pearl elk]

I love cloud saves, backing those up on floppy and having to pull them out was ass

[quasi mantle]

Thankfully Doom 3 is now proudly resides in my Steam library, after 10 years.

[shell garden]

space quest 4 basically became a 4 screen demo of itself because of a timing bug

[pearl elk]

software is crap but it is so much better than these glory days people idolise, I bet most of you were playing consoles in your mums basement 😛

[shell garden]

space quest 6 became uncompletable thanks to a race condition that triggered the wrong way if your cpu was too fast

[quasi mantle]

People can hate on Doom 3, but it was my very first Doom game before religiously playing Doom 2

[pearl elk]

I still have my original NES

flexes

[shell garden]

sierra's solution for space quest 6 was "here's a save game that starts just part that point"

[quasi mantle]

My NES back then were part of a dodgy VCD player

Or those Chinese famicom bootleg mimicking consoles. Yeah, those were my stuff back then

[pearl elk]

I loved Golden Eye for instance but omg that game is ass by todays standards

[shell garden]

what i found particularly weird is that they knew about this while they were still publishing the games. i have the space quest collection on cd and it ships with an (undocumented) copy of moslo

[pearl elk]

I loved Doom but I honestly cant even play it because it taints my memory of it being so much better than it actually is

same with Half-life

[shell garden]

just play it in reverse and call it mood

[quasi mantle]

[pearl elk]

they arnt bad but I think people forget games are so much more complicated these days, even a simple game has so much better movement physics, movement options etc

[quasi mantle]

I'm not fond with Half-Life.
The only Valve game I like is CS:GO.

The rest of Valve games are meh

[shell garden]

i kinda want to just play old games on twitch streams

partly because my pc hardware tends to always be a generation or two behind

partly to see how well the nostalgia holds up

[quasi mantle]

I'd rather play Fortnite than Team Fortress 2, even though I have the latter in my Steam library

[shell garden]

theme park, the cd version, with the fmvs of some of the rides

[quasi mantle]

Portal 1&2 are decent, but I don't find myself replaying those.

[shell garden]

magic carpet 2 in "hi res" mode

crusader: no remorse, which i loved as a kid, and the sequel, crusader: no regret, which i've never played

[pearl elk]

the earliest flight sims I played didnt even have filled polygons they were line art

[shell garden]

giggles in elite

[carmine frigate]

retal was pretty good :p

or descent

[shell garden]

descent series was good

[quasi mantle]

That explains why I don't want to replay them (or even thinking about speedrunning the game

[shell garden]

but have you played terminal velocity?

[pearl elk]

I just cant play that sort of thing anymore, I hate being a graphics snob but I like modern advancements

[shell garden]

tyrian2000

[carmine frigate]

not much, some xwing vs tie

[pearl elk]

no ones mentioned a game I havent played yet 🙂

[carmine frigate]

codename eagle

[quasi mantle]

How about this, don't think anyone know about it

[pearl elk]

will take you awhile, try Amigas back category or C64 😛

[quasi mantle]

[shell garden]

space spartans on intellivison

[cursive crypt]

Airborne Ranger

[shell garden]

(i played a dos emulator/clone of it and it was really good)

[quasi mantle]

DOSBox-X?

[shell garden]

no, it was a collection of intellivision games for dos

[pearl elk]

I remember a Transformers game on C64 that was so bad you just ran around trying to find other robots

I could never find the actual point of it

felt totally unfinished but aye, probably better than ET

[shell garden]

this was really fun

[carmine frigate]

C64 games often didnt have a manual and i would slam my hands on the keyboard til i hit a key that did something

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9vVSixDfCU

ahh what do you know

[shell garden]

heh, ocean games

[pearl elk]

someone knows how to play it, if only we have YT back in the day

[quasi mantle]

Not even magazines figured it out?

[shell garden]

frankie goes to hollywood

it was basically a set of minigames

[pearl elk]

where I lived there wernt many C64 magazines, NES and PC really took off though

[shell garden]

good fun, but confusing as hell

[pearl elk]

and there was Hyper for all consoles

[quasi mantle]

My gaming magazine memory was so hazy at this point.
Last time I read one of local gaming magazine was probably 13 years ago.

[pearl elk]

Quake was such a good game because of the internet, took me ages to download the mods though on my crappy dial up

[shell garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3wq0mbAL_s

[quasi mantle]

And then there's also a gaming TV show in kids TV channel

[pearl elk]

I mostly read Game Informer online but sometimes I buy a copy

[shell garden]

oop that one is too short, doesn't show the actual gameplay

[quasi mantle]

Back then PSP was the hot stuff, priced about 3 million IDR at the time (which equates to around $300 at that time)

I remember drooling on PSPs on TV, and wanting to have one.
One day I'll redeem myself buying one.

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZDG4dlU5uY

[shell garden]

fruity frank, you ever play that?

huh. that alley cat game does some clever palette swapping stuff

[cursive crypt]

Awww.... I remember that one.

Never won it.

[shell garden]

my understanding of cga is this shouldn't be possible

[pearl elk]

video compression

which says alot if YT cant keep up with CGA 😛

[cursive crypt]

I think they tried to make a remake 🤔

[frosty halo]

Remember the days when you could buy books with cheat codes?

[shell garden]

that's mpeg for you

it doesn't like super high contrast

[pearl elk]

I remember the SMS numbers too for cheats

[shell garden]

mission omega, i never got very far in it, but it was fun being a robot 🙃

elevator action

[cursive crypt]

I had like a 300+ pages book reviewing games back then. Doom was one of the games. Ofc, cheat codes were included. To be fair, never seen such work nowadays. Think it is all YT.

[shell garden]

the dizzy series

[cursive crypt]

Or some handicapped articles.

[pearl elk]

iddqd, idkfa

[shell garden]

one educational game i loved when i was a kid was called something like "the wizard of lexx"

[frosty halo]

“Hey y’all it’s ya boi Trappy2Playz and this video is all about how to get that megablaster in fortnite by using this one trick Epic does not want you to know! Hit that like button, smash that subscribe button and turn on your notifications so YOU KNOW when I push out another awesome vid. A’ight let’s start! EDM playing in the background”

[shell garden]

i've never been able to find any info on it. it was cga, and i remember having it on a 5.25" disk

[pearl elk]

all the proper floppies

[quasi mantle]

Reminds me of those dubiously printed cheat code for the PS2 version of GTA San Andreas.
which also reminds me of those shitty modded GTA SA copies.

[shell garden]

speaking of modding gta

[frosty halo]

GTA Vice City holds a special place in my heart. Always will.

[pearl elk]

there was this little known mod called hot covfefe maybe you heard of it

[shell garden]

back in '99 or so a copy of the original gta was floating around high school

[frosty halo]

ITS TIME FOR THE LANCE VANCE DANCE

[shell garden]

the 8bit graphics mode had been nocd-hacked but not the 24bit one

[pearl elk]

move to gamecopyworld

[shell garden]

i managed to get a copy of the crack they used and adapt it for the 24bit one

[frosty halo]

Was the covfefe hot?

[shell garden]

little bit of hex editing

made me pretty popular for a while 🙃

[frosty halo]

The original Return to castle Wolfenstein

[shell garden]

just imagine if i had a voodoo card though. all that sexy 3dfx graphics

[frosty halo]

Man that game had atmosphere

[pearl elk]

games are so much more accessible now aye, there is that friction with the launchers but its no where near as bad as with physical media

[shell garden]

i played one of those wolfenstein games but i can't for the life of me remember what system it was on/emulated

[pearl elk]

I just wish I didnt have to sign up for every server I login to, thats the real annoyance

login with discord, problem solvered... until I forget which login I use for that site

[frosty halo]

Mine was on pc. There was a port.

Back when I had a CRT monitor and an original IBM mechanical keyboard

[shell garden]

nice

first pc i had (access to) was a 386. dad upgraded it to an amd 486 within a month or so 😛

[frosty halo]

Serious Sam, Civ3, heroes of might and magic 3. Damn…

I miss those games.

[shell garden]

had an AT style keyboard, which i kept after we got rid of the rest of the system

[frosty halo]

I reckon that system would fetch a pretty penny today

[shell garden]

i was gonna modify it because i liked it so much, never got around to it of course

[pearl elk]

new Serious Sam is pretty funny, its odd how its still a commentary on the FPS genre

[shell garden]

turns out the reason i liked it is it was properly mechanical

even as a kid i had good taste 🙃

[pearl elk]

Civ is still going strong too, Civ 3 was bloody hard though with the resources

[foggy path]

Civ 2 had the FMV advisors, that was the best

[shell garden]

i've only played 3 civ games. civ1, civ2, and an activision one that's not technically sid meier called "call to power"

[frosty halo]

what was that awful civ game set in space?

[foggy path]

call to power was interesting I seem to recall, a bit different

[frosty halo]

Whatever happened to it.

[shell garden]

alpha centauri

and i always thought it was good

[frosty halo]

Yeah that one

[foggy path]

no Alpha Centauri isn't the awful one

they had sort of a remake of it recently

which apparently was a bit shit

Alpha Centauri is excellent :P

[frosty halo]

Guys guys guys shut up I found the perfect game

One sec

[shell garden]

i vaguely remember finding a bug in civ1 that made it insanely easy to win

[shell garden]

is that the adventure game one?

[quasi mantle]

This was the hot talk back then

[frosty halo]

It’s the RTS one

[quasi mantle]

This is the greatest confusing franchise of All Time

[shell garden]

the one they remade as dune 2000? that was actually quite good

the remake was less good, despite the better graphics

[frosty halo]

I was a little fat fanboy of it ever since I read it in my early teens.

[quasi mantle]

One Dune game is an adventure game, one other Dune game is an RTS game. One other dune game is 3D RTS.

[shell garden]

command and conquer: sanddune edition

[quasi mantle]

Like what the hell is going on

[cursive crypt]

Think that was the first RTS ever. Loved it. Still do in a sense.

[quasi mantle]

Are those two different genre games even related to each other, or just sharing the namesake?

[shell garden]

oh come to think of it, i also played colonization, the game that sid meier stole and turned into civilization

[frosty halo]

They need a proper dune game as a first/third person story - but done in a high budget and following the tone of the book.

[shell garden]

i'll start working on it

just need a budget

[cursive crypt]

Doubt. These from Conan Exiles are making one.

Funcom

[pearl elk]

Dune Exiles

[shell garden]

dunexiles

[frosty halo]

I can supply you pizza rolls and moral support

[foggy path]

Dune 2 isn't the first ever RTS, I think Combat Leader from 83 or so is the first one

[cursive crypt]

Aye, considering the first, I see no story. Mostly thriving for water and head bonking.

[foggy path]

although maybe Dune 2 is a bit more recognizable compared to modern ones

[shell garden]

ok i need to sleep

[cursive crypt]

Ah, not familiar with that one. Let me see.

[shell garden]

i'm running out of obscure games from my childhood to taunt you all with

[frosty halo]

Nooooooo

[foggy path]

we could talk about finnish shareware games

pretty sure most of you have never heard about any of them

lol

[quasi mantle]

I only know finnish demoscenes though 👀

[pearl elk]

but least they were finnished?

[shell garden]

so i will leave you with some less obscure ones you can play with scummvm now: toonstruck, simon the sorcerer, and a childrens' interactive book called grandma and me

[shell garden]

you call that obscure?

[cursive crypt]

Somehow familiar.

[quasi mantle]

I mean, technically Death Rally is one Finnish (made) shareware

[frosty halo]

Not obscure but I loved it

[shell garden]

death rally was lots of fun

[foggy path]

was Death Rally released as shareware 🤔

[frosty halo]

Road Rash.

[foggy path]

maybe it was, I can't remember

[shell garden]

yah i think it was

[quasi mantle]

It was shareware.

[shell garden]

ooh, zoop

[foggy path]

I only had the boxed copy so no idea :D

[shell garden]

one must fall 2097

[pearl elk]

but shareware was just early access for old nerds

[frosty halo]

Always made me think people who own bikes in the US drove like they did in road rash and it was ok to beat someone with a chain.

[quasi mantle]

Or rather "Trial Mode"

[shell garden]

carmageddon of course, which has a very faithful remake called max damage now

[frosty halo]

Oh oh oh oh

[shell garden]

deflektor

[quasi mantle]

i'm more familiar with that term due to free PopCap Games collection being in trial mode

[pearl elk]

carmageddon had such odd controls, not as bad as system shock though or rise of the robots

[quasi mantle]

Rise of the Robots is a complete joke

[shell garden]

yah but now you can play the remake with REAL controls

HALLOWEEN HARRY

[foggy path]

How were carmageddon's controls odd? I don't recall them being that weird

I had a boxed carma 1, another one where I have no idea what happened to the box or any of the contents though

:P

[shell garden]

lemmings 2: the tribes

[frosty halo]

There was this ps1 game that got banned in lots of places, but the computer cafe nearby me had it and we played the shit out of it as kids. Thrill Kill. What a gloriously sick game that was.

[shell garden]

sentinel

[frosty halo]

It would never fly these days I think.

[foggy path]

lemmings 2 the tribes? is this some kind of Tribes and Lemmings crossover

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8FrCnpXPq8

[quasi mantle]

Thrill Kill isn't entirely cancelled, right?

[shell garden]

i wish

[frosty halo]

I don’t think so.

[shell garden]

oh of course lemmings 2 was made for the amiga. i should track down that version

[frosty halo]

Funny it says it’s unreleased.

It was oh so released when I played it lmao

[quasi mantle]

Probably the latest surviving build that they got

[shell garden]

the dos version was annoying as hell. one of those ones where the sound is a bitch to get working right, and it was EMS, so had very hard-limited memory usage and bitched about that all the time too

[quasi mantle]

In some cases, prototypes were almost candidate for gold master, but then shelved away.

[foggy path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK82B3BjhaA

[pearl elk]

I actually didnt mind Lemmings 3D

[frosty halo]

Yiss

[shell garden]

star wars: rebel assault 2

scorched earth

[foggy path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeYyBlxFCpw

[shell garden]

paganitzu

god of thunder

[foggy path]

TekWar

[frosty halo]

Crash bandicoot

[shell garden]

yie ar kung fu

[frosty halo]

Oh yeah Battletech was nice

The original

[pearl elk]

crush bandipants

[frosty halo]

Mmmm pants

[shell garden]

wait wait wait

TITUS THE FOX

[pearl elk]

Stellar 7

but wheres the turn based love

[shell garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxuaiI-rUvg

[pearl elk]

Non-stop Chuck Norris ftw

[shell garden]

star control, star control 2: the ur-quan masters

but not star control 3, that was goddamn awful

CAPTAIN BLOOD

[pearl elk]

but you see all those games just mentioned, none of that matters cuz we have a world premiere for you

[shell garden]

oh?

[pearl elk]

its all about the new games baby

[shell garden]

tell that to blizzard

[pearl elk]

no one ever made a gaming show about old games

[shell garden]

they're remaking warcraft 3 and diablo 2

[shell garden]

then i will be the first

[pearl elk]

theyre only remaking Diablo 2 cuz of the Immortal announce being almost as bad as the Artifact one

[quasi mantle]

Forget about Warcraft 3 Reforged

[quasi mantle]

Also forget about Diablo Immortal

We don't have phones after all 😛

[shell garden]

i already have

warcraft 2 remains the best warcraft ever made

[pearl elk]

Valve cant get to 3 but Blizzard cant get to 4

[quasi mantle]

it's the OG Warcraft 3 for me

[shell garden]

and that includes all iterations of and expansions for WoW

[pearl elk]

Bioware is just holding everyones beer

[shell garden]

warcraft 3 had decent gameplay and was good multiplayer

[quasi mantle]

You have no idea how blown away I was playing Warcraft 3 after playing StarCraft almost everyday in my old computer

[pearl elk]

Warcraft 2 Tides of Darkness was my fav

[shell garden]

single player warcraft 3 was gross

story sucked SOOOOOOOOOOO much

it really distracted and detracted from the gameplay

[quasi mantle]

Screw you in particular @shell garden
At least the 3D graphics were nice

[pearl elk]

it was basically the story from Dawn of War tbh

[quasi mantle]

Back then my English literacy was bad so I don't care about the story
I only care about the grafix

[shell garden]

except somehow done even worse

[pearl elk]

you might say but Dawn of War was released after but that story was based on Warhammer 40k lore which existed long before Blizzard

[shell garden]

best thing about warcraft 2 was the disco mix of "the age of chaos" song

🎵 in the age of chaos, two factions battled for dominance 🎵

ok real sleep time for me now

[quasi mantle]

Sike, Discord Sleep Deprivation gets into you

[shell garden]

i gotta get the firmware for my 5g tracker updated in the afternoon

[tulip orbit]

I get my upgrade next week 😄

[quasi mantle]

And then we're still having hard time adopting 5G in here

[carmine frigate]

here we burn the towers down cuz they spread corona or something 😄

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/corona-beer-ice-cold-beer-chill-cold-gif-13320447

[quasi mantle]

That's another episode of Rama's Ballad of Third World Country Life.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/17fenwick-football-gif-21896704

[quasi mantle]

(also not to be confused with C++ Rama guy - my real name is actually Rama)

[pearl elk]

my real name is actually Roger

[quasi mantle]

Don't mention it

[pearl elk]

I like giving a good rogering

[foggy path]

there's a finnish dance music artist called Rama as well! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfI3sMzzJVc

[orchid mountain]

How can I get my project to show up in the recent projects tab?

I have to click browse and open the .uproject file everytime

(I'm using UE5 btw)

[quasi mantle]

Should ask it in #ue4-general

[orchid mountain]

ok, thanks

[foggy path]

lol

yeah Rama is an old eurodance dude so of course he'd have those cheesy lyrics

[quasi mantle]

and I like cheese IRL

Coincidence?

(reminder to update UE4.27 source code in one hour)

[carmine frigate]

@zinc matrix sorry but Scooter is just pure genious 😛

😛

[pearl elk]

Scoooooootaaaaaaaaaah!

caatch a riiide

[carmine frigate]

its nice to be important, but more important to be nice 😛

[cursive crypt]

It's important to be important, but is nice to be nice 🧠

[carmine frigate]

that sounds like something Kanye wrote 😛

[pearl elk]

its important to be Kanye but more important Kanye isnt nice

[quasi mantle]

"Today was a good day"

Also...

Let there be dragons!

If the server don't implement the Unreal dragon emoji, I'm using it myself then

[foggy path]

quoting HP Baxxter in their advertising, excellent move from Thomann lol

lol

a friend was like "sounds like a scooter song" when he saw this, he didn't know who HP Baxxter was :D

[deep glen]

https://twitter.com/Vertex_Int/status/1403395062608842753
dang

Vertex Interactive (@Vertex_Int)

Path Tracer in UE 4.27...

@UnrealEngine @madewithUnreal #gamedev #UE4 #unreal @polycount #UnrealEngine4 #gameart #3dart #gameart #UnrealEngine

Twitter · Jun 11, 2021, 4:53 PM

[regal pecan]

It's three screenshots and the words "path tracer". I'm skeptical.

[quasi mantle]

UE4 has full path tracer for quite some time, but it wasn't ready for prime time.

[carmine frigate]

yea either lockup for trying to fool us or burn him for witchcraft

[quasi mantle]

I don't hear any high-end AMD users enabling raytracing in UE4, so probably it requires RTX card.

[regal pecan]

Vertex Interactive sells landscapes on the marketplace, not shaders/plugins.

Not that they're lying, just that the path tracer isn't theirs, or maybe they only think it's a path tracer because the reflections look good.

[pearl elk]

nah it doesnt require RTX

high-end AMD owner here

is it just me or do things seem alittle strained between Epic and Nvidia lately

[deep glen]

oh?

[pearl elk]

maybe its not the intent but thats how it comes across in the marketing

Epic are dumping everything Nvidia and Nvidia arnt really promoting Unreal Engine, its all about their Omniverse (which looks alot like UE4 anyways tbh)

I mean you got computex right, Nvidia have the main stage and theres not a single UE5 word

[quasi mantle]

Which is weird, because 4 years ago they seemed like the lovey-dovey.

From that Porsche RTX demo, to Project Sol

[lucid walrus]

UE5 wants to run on consoles. There are 0 nvidia consoles. Not that difficult.

[quasi mantle]

Conspiracy theory, but I think it has something to do with AMD supporting ray tracing on consoles, and Epic wanted to have the Console share.

Thus Ray Tracing got "deprecated" in favour of Lumen.

[lucid walrus]

What I want to know if Epic being dumped by The Mandalorian is true.

[pearl elk]

Yeah but I dont see how thats Epics problem, Nvidia obviously make more money on PC but I guess for them its all about enterprise now

[quasi mantle]

This is true. ILM ended up using their own in-house virtual studio setup.

[pearl elk]

I mean why sell graphics if youre an AI company 😛

[lucid walrus]

Do you know of a link with more info?

[quasi mantle]

I don't bookmarked the links but talks on the VFX space and some Behind the scene photos suggests so.

[lucid walrus]

Mmm... my google fu fails me

That's weird, imo, because it seemed for a while that Unreal completely pivoted to Hollywood

like, they smelled the money after Fortnite

[quasi mantle]

Well, at least Weta Digital made that Meerkat demo

[regal pecan]

Corporations aren't human. They don't have emotions. You won't hurt their feelings by giving them the cold shoulder, and they won't answer your call when you remind them of all the good times you had.

[pearl elk]

Disney invested in Epic so it makes sense to offer some support to Hollywood

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of which

Molly the Meerkat emoji in this server, anyone?

[pearl elk]

Well Im talking from my perspective as a consumer of both Nvidia and Epics products

It looks like the companies have had a falling out to me

[lucid walrus]

Yes, but that was after Jon Favreau began with virtual production, right? And then they supported him through Mandalorian season 1 and 2... and now... not good enough? don't want to wait? just going their own ways...

[regal pecan]

I'm saying that as a consumer you're projecting. 😛
Friendly PR is only ever a marriage of convenience.

[lucid walrus]

that's more weird than nvidia, which must be because of consoles

[quasi mantle]

Though given that we don't get emoji, I won't hope much

[pearl elk]

Probably not happening fast enough for ILM

I mean think of the skill level at a studio like that

we complain about UE5 and we're just rando slackers 😛

[lucid walrus]

does ILM have their own renderer, like Pixar?

[quasi mantle]

IIRC, ILM still uses Arnold

[pearl elk]

why couldnt ILM use Pixars tech, owned by the same joint

[soft night]

speaking of M&E the unity posted they picks lately on they blog https://blog.unity.com/entertainment/the-top-trends-that-are-shaping-me-in-2021

pixar have used unity

[regal pecan]

What if Epic is simply taking ILM's work and porting it to Unreal? That would explain the lack of follow-through.

[lucid walrus]

ok, so who are the coders at ILM that's going to beat Epic faster and better than what Epic's coders can?

[soft night]

as ILM used unreal on the mandalorian

the substance share have materialX

[pearl elk]

well USD support for UE4 is only just starting to get somewhere near completed

[soft night]

well for them too but maybe to quixel as well

https://www.materialx.org/

[pearl elk]

Im sure there are alot of issues that pop up with production that ILM must have felt they could do better with

[lucid walrus]

like, if Pixar dabbled with Unreal and then decided to dump it and update Renderman, I would understand, but ILM can't possibly be starting from scratch and expect to beat Unreal faster than UE5 gets released?

[pearl elk]

ILM do feature films for a living, I doubt anything is from scratch

[lucid walrus]

but they use Arnold?

[soft night]

the engine makers to push they media and entertainment tools too

[pearl elk]

Epic have more ground to cover from mobile, to archviz, to consoles.... to movies

[quasi mantle]

It's possible that ILM stole few pages out of Unreal's implementation and give it their own twist.

[lucid walrus]

ILM has something called Helios and Stagecraft apparently... hmm...

[quasi mantle]

THIS

Helios, that's what they're talking about

[lucid walrus]

but that was already used in season 2, so that's not Unreal?

[quasi mantle]

Finally snapped into my memory.

[pearl elk]

they probably just integrated Unreal as part of their pipeline not as core

[lucid walrus]

https://twitter.com/ilmvfx/status/1372956031844720645?lang=en

ILMVFX (@ILMVFX)

VFX Fact: For Season 2 of #TheMandalorian ILM developed Helios, our own real-time render engine which was used for all StageCraft rendering in the Volume.

Retweets

164

Likes

1388

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 5:00 PM

Well, there you go...

[quasi mantle]

But even if they did integrate Unreal in any capacity, they should give credit where credit is due.

[lucid walrus]

"our own real-time render engine"

wow

[quasi mantle]

Which is not the case with S2.

[pearl elk]

well maybe they didnt use it in S2

[lucid walrus]

read the Tweet

and the thread

wow... info on Helios is bare bones

like, worse than Notch 🙂

[pearl elk]

I hear you can get a copy of Frostbite if youre keen 😛

[regal pecan]

It's probably Godot. 🥸

[quasi mantle]

Goddamnit.
Screw Notch. I hate that software more than I hate myself looking at BrainF coding.

[lucid walrus]

Hahaha... really? Isn't it industry standard for live shows?

[carmine frigate]

i thought everything was in roblox

[quasi mantle]

I'd rather do sploshy particles in Niagara than in Notch.

[quasi mantle]

Standard for Live Shows and Demoscenes.

[lucid walrus]

demosceners other than Farbrausch use it?

[quasi mantle]

Demoscene be like "Notch good, Unreal bad"
Though granted that Smash of CNCD worked on it for long.

[pearl elk]

I think even if ILM went into details they'd lose me pretty quickly, just not my field

[lucid walrus]

co-founded even

[light spruce]

good thing Epic put all those resources into things that weren't game related

[pearl elk]

Meinkraftworks

[quasi mantle]

But yeah, Notch sucked.
I hated the interface.

Rather make sploshy particle effects with UE4 Niagara than Notch.

[pearl elk]

the thing is these days games have more cutscenes than an entire TV season

[regal pecan]

deja vu

[pearl elk]

when was the last time ILM made anything 60 hrs long 😛

[light spruce]

Kinda wonder how much someone went "Man, these guys are trying to go tits up with their batshit flaunting of legal contracts with Apple and Google so we should probably ripcord this shit instead of depending on them"

[regal pecan]

Doubtful. More likely they wanted a master of one over a jack of all trades.

Probably used Unreal to prototype the show, then started building their own renderer the moment they realized there'd be a second season.

[pearl elk]

you know who used to own Pixar? I'll give you a hint, his name ended in Jobs

[light spruce]

I'll bet my life that it was part of the conversation

[lucid walrus]

I wonder if Tencent was a part of the conversation... recent Chinese movies have stepped up their CG by... a lot

[light spruce]

building a pipeline and tools ain't cheap or easy

Especially when you'd be rebuilding anything you'd already put together

[pearl elk]

lets be fair Unreal Engine wasnt exactly designed for that application, it was more of an aside, novel while it lasted

[regal pecan]

Am I the only one who thinks it's barely suited for games?

[pearl elk]

purpose built will always be functionally faster than a generic

but generic you get gains in production of many applications

[lucid walrus]

#metasounds message

[light spruce]

Definitely not, but they did start throwing a lot of stuff at the film side of things

[lucid walrus]

Already posted the link once today so...

[light spruce]

So, apparently you get a string of numbers in response because you weren't here, I guess

[pearl elk]

As far as I can tell the industry is having trouble on a whole making games without completely chewing its own arm off

[lucid walrus]

I can agree it's barely suitable for anything not a realistic looking FPS 😬

[light spruce]

Well that may have something to do with reaching critical mass of poor management and labor practices

[lucid walrus]

Didn't mean to snark, just didn't want to spam 🙂

[light spruce]

Because the industry has been the shit of the dog for a number of years now

[pearl elk]

I think it has alot to do with tools not accelerating at the same pace as the graphics they drive

[regal pecan]

Even for a realistic looking FPS it seems troubled by performance or scale.
You're either making a realistic looking FPS the size of CS:GO (perfect for VR?) or you're spending years in development hell.

[light spruce]

The content creation pipeline has been behind since approximately the 1800s

[pearl elk]

you cant sell a game the size of CS:GO, good luck getting those skins sold without the next Apex Legends or Fortnite

[regal pecan]

I meant map sizes.

[pearl elk]

its all good to make the best looking game imaginable but you still got to pay your workers, which even Activision has trouble with apparently

but thats why we do a game jam, free labour 😛

[light spruce]

They also have trouble with things like "ethics"

[regal pecan]

Unreal Engine seems best for arch-vis. <_<

[pearl elk]

better off working for Walmart under minimum wage than trying to make money from games

[regal pecan]

As much as they love car rendering, someone needs to trademark motor-vis.

[pearl elk]

school of hard knocks tonight 🙂

[light spruce]

It's a less stressful job, that's for sure

[lucid walrus]

Unigine is best for arch-vis 😝

[light spruce]

I know I'd rather work at Walmart than one the endless churn studios (so, basically all of them)

[regal pecan]

Did someone use Unigine at some point?

[quasi mantle]

Unigine sounds like a merger between Unity and Unreal Engine

There, I confessed my sin

[lucid walrus]

and it looks like the best of both worlds 😄

[light spruce]

I seem to vaguely remember something about someone using it

And immediately thought "holy shit, something that's not a benchmark?"

[pearl elk]

I mean look at something like Bioshock, highly successful yet somehow the studios involved no longer exist

[light spruce]

Sadly, they invented a more interesting world in Superposition than a lot of games manage to

If only Bioshock had kept all of their environments and then threw all the gameplay, writing, and "moral choice", in the trash

[pearl elk]

isnt that just Bioshock Infinite

[regal pecan]

At the very least, the gameplay.
I think it's something about gaming with controllers, because People Can Fly Flying Wild Hog* does the same thing with the Shadow Warrior series.
*I'm an idiot.

[pearl elk]

imagine for a moment if Fortnite Battle Royale didnt happen, Paragons failure could have really hurt Epic, thankfully they were able to soak it up and move on

[regal pecan]

Interesting. SW3 will be on UE4.

[pearl elk]

the big names arnt exactly hitting it every time, some are luckier than others but even Respawn with Titanfall 2 got hammered abit by a crap release date

[quasi mantle]

Shadow Warrior 3, using Unreal Engine 4??

[pearl elk]

Last of Us 2 took an absolutely ungodly budget to complete Im sure

tbh you are better off making a TV series instead

[quasi mantle]

Any public statement on why FWH ditched their inhouse engine?

[light spruce]

Bioshock Infinite managed to have even worse gameplay

[quasi mantle]

Last Of Us 2 looks mighty realistic on PS4 tho, ngl

[light spruce]

kind of impressive, really

[regal pecan]

Not sure. That's what Wikipedia put in but I don't feel like reading all the citations to find out for sure.

[quasi mantle]

Granted, they do it with fixed lighting...

[regal pecan]

If you have a big enough budget you can turn any engine into a gem.

[quasi mantle]

It would be messy if they're going for fully dynamic lighting

[quasi mantle]

Case in point: a Unity game called Oddworld Soulstorm

[regal pecan]

Unity, the reason Unreal Engine is considered viable.

[light spruce]

EA basically set Titanfall 2 up to fail

[pearl elk]

yeah but maybe thats the issue with modern game development, maybe the engine shouldnt need a budget to turn it into something to be able to make your game

graphics are great but the tools while still amazing are still no where near as advanced as the art requires

[regal pecan]

Shush Mons, the trend for game engines is to chase features and eyeballs, not provide a useful or easily extended toolset.

[pearl elk]

I mean you could just make Among Us and no worries

[quasi mantle]

Do they still share horror stories with Frostbite?

[light spruce]

Arguably, an engine's job for content should be "get it on the screen"

[pearl elk]

but I dont think making smaller games will ever allow you to scale to larger games in the future, you get kinda stuck

[regal pecan]

Nanite: Toss out all the old useful features to create an inscrutable virtualization system useful for only one specific application.
Kind of like landscape.

[light spruce]

so the problem is all the other tools not keeping up

[pearl elk]

you still actually have to generate lods for UVing high poly meshes and for collision

[quasi mantle]

Basically all artist: "Rejoice Nanite!"

[regal pecan]

Honestly, artists just need a portfolio of pretty screenshots, so nanite is perfect for them.

[quasi mantle]

Pfftt. Just say you're lazy making LOD meshes

[pearl elk]

yeah but you need more than pretty pictures to make interactive projects

which could be why all modern games suck right 😛

[quasi mantle]

read: took more than 100 GB of size

[regal pecan]

But by that time you have a job and you're no longer an "artist", you're a "creative director" and your inadequacies are someone else's problem.

[pearl elk]

100gb walking simulator yay

[carmine frigate]

prolly should have done something like package a project in unreal 4 and get access to UE5EA 😛

[quasi mantle]

Because of those "meddling artists" the poly count increases, the file size increased, but the gameplay is just walking sim

[light spruce]

Yep. Definitely no one else in the chain there

Certainly not any management

[quasi mantle]

(no real hate towards CG artists tho - I know how daunting it is to make LOD and normal maps)

[pearl elk]

well all the game devs are too busy working on Battle Royales

[light spruce]

Clearly no engineers anymore apparently

[deep glen]

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/bbq-aluminium-bereidingsbak-zilver-36-x-29-x-7-5-cm/9300000000485929
this bin is unisex. not sure why that is mentioned

[carmine frigate]

lol, artists go overboard with shaders, programmers get the blame for framedrops

[regal pecan]

If you think about it, who actually designs the gameplay? The game designer? With an excel spreadsheet? How does that work?

[light spruce]

Shit

You'd be lucky if whoever is doing design is even using a spreadsheet

They might have useful data that way

Instead, it's usually some dipshit that failed upwards from QA because he wasn't actually good at anything

[quasi mantle]

Snap

[pearl elk]

name the best game you've played this year go...

[quasi mantle]

I almost forgot updating my 4.27 source code

[regal pecan]

I imagine someone in management says "you're making a battle royale because marketing thinks that will sell in two years" and the game designer says "yes sir, how many weapon skins sir".

[pearl elk]

game designer say gacha

economy designer concurs

[light spruce]

You need data, you need math, you need a lot of time playing and replaying and tweaking to actually be a designer and not just some "dickhead with a couple of ideas"

[regal pecan]

You'd actually need a game designer for gacha though. You don't want someone to get all the best items before the next century do you?

[deep glen]

bro is asking if I know about an indie-game thats kinda indiana-jones-ish, random dungeons, and if you die you can see the soulds of previous playtroughs/players

any of you know?

[regal pecan]

He's asking if you know. Admit the truth.

[deep glen]

XD i already told him I dont know

[carmine frigate]

well on super mario maker u can see where other players died

[pearl elk]

Uncharted is like Indiana Jonesish but not a soulslike

[quasi mantle]

Don't tell the public that I have 20% love - 80% hate relationship with gacha

[light spruce]

The only "Indiana Jones-ish game" that immediately ever comes to mind is Spelunky

did they do dead people multiplayer in the second one?

[quasi mantle]

What about Tomb Raider?

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-indiana-jones-indy-dies-gif-20900557

[pearl elk]

yeah

someone did mention Paganitzu earlier

[deep glen]

think its this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhsZ6mK-miI

[quasi mantle]

Now I can go ahead and cook some noodle

[pearl elk]

I liked Strange Brigade

[light spruce]

Man, what games did I even play in 2021 aside from Cyberpunk?

Risk of Rain 2 (but I played that before). Valheim.

[quasi mantle]

I have the urge to post my cooking photos to #food but my phone camera's light reproduction is terrible.

[pearl elk]

lol no ones released anything 😛

2022 we'll be like hmm welp GOTY last year was a bust

[light spruce]

GOTY is a dumb concept anyway

[frosty halo]

Resident Evil 8?

[quasi mantle]

implying we play horror games

[pearl elk]

it is these days with service model games, some titles arnt good until a few years after their launch

[frosty halo]

Implying RE is still considered horror

[regal pecan]

And other titles are no longer around a few years after their launch.

[pearl elk]

back in my day Resident Evil games were considered the height of jank

[frosty halo]

RE8 was a adventure sim where a newly single simp chases a 丅卄工匚匚 goth girl around a castle.

[quasi mantle]

I mean, RE7 and RE8 is going back to the horror roots.
Dababy monster in RE8 is batshit scary.

[pearl elk]

but now apparently they are the best we got 😛

[carmine frigate]

apple mentioned .. Sisterly love or something 😛

[quasi mantle]

Defenseless while that baby is chasing around is like playing Outlast or Silent Hill all over again.

[frosty halo]

The bebe was the only part in there that i would consider “horror-like”. Really gave me silent hill vibes. They did well on that one. Can’t argue this.

[carmine frigate]

so offensive it cannot be named here 😛

[frosty halo]

Cause Chris is a rock-punching asshole

Sorry, Boulder-punching

[quasi mantle]

How do I do that with GitHub desktop?
I'm suck at Git command line practice

[quasi mantle]

"That boulder punching arsehole"

• Heisenberg

Thanks for the judgement 🙂

[light spruce]

Yeah.. github desktop is generally the first problem to anything involving git

[quasi mantle]

I really need it, thanks
*sarcastically

[pearl elk]

Apparently Bethesda are doing an Indiana Jones licensed game, I think I knew this but quickly forgot

[frosty halo]

I still can’t believe they couldn’t pick a better name for him than “Heisenberg”. How’s that a Easter European name? Considering the setting.

[pearl elk]

because I bet it starts with Dr Jones escaping a vault

[frosty halo]

Janusz The Hammer Hobo

[light spruce]

Well, you can bitch about it or you could go learn to properly use git

[quasi mantle]

I know, I know, sheesh

[regal pecan]

I prefer to use rebase on everything.

[frosty halo]

Git is easy

[quasi mantle]

Just shut up about my incompetency already

[frosty halo]

In fact if you learn git cli, you will be better off.

Forever.

[pearl elk]

gitgud

[quasi mantle]

Just one screenshot and I got the burning pitchfork all over my room.

[frosty halo]

I like how there’s this git elitism here lmao

[light spruce]

He's one of those people where if you point out any deficiencies in whatever tool he's using or whatever thing he likes, it's a personal attack. So, clarifying isn't going to help there.

[frosty halo]

Just use whatever you like.

[pearl elk]

I dont even use git... I use Mecurial

[frosty halo]

It’s like vim vs emacs vs neovim in here

[quasi mantle]

GitHub Desktop has served me for the past 2 years, and so what.

[frosty halo]

That’s a deficiency of the user not the software.

[light spruce]

not always true

[frosty halo]

I mean… maybe idk what I’m talking about. I use UI tools for git once a year. I’m a cli-guy

[carmine frigate]

i just press the download zip button, the rest is stupid

[frosty halo]

But in my experience if there’s an F-up somewhere, usually it can be traced to someone who didn’t read the manual

[quasi mantle]

If GitHub Desktop served me for two years, are you going to say "F you, throw that crap away. Here, use Git Bash instead. I don't care, took 12 hours of your life learning all the correct command, even if that hunk of crap served you for the last 2 years. I dare to say your 2 years of life is full of crap"

[light spruce]

I don't use git and even I know that github desktop manages to fuck things up all on its own

[quasi mantle]

But the way you said it to me is like "F you and your GitHub Desktop bias"

[frosty halo]

I’m on my mobile. And I have only ever used sync for sub modules.

And even then I prefer pull / update

As needed

[cursive crypt]

wtf is GitHub desktop, lol

[regal pecan]

I'd like to approach this from a different angle. How is hoodie guy using the github desktop in a way that works? (That rebase comment wasn't a joke.)

[quasi mantle]

So effing what? I have zero trouble using GitHub for more than 2+ years.

[light spruce]

Man

You need to get over this personal slight shit about your garbage software that you're using or you're never going to get anywhere with anything

[quasi mantle]

If you'll excuse me, I'm going to eat my noodles

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-憤怒-angry-furious-mad-gif-4514235

[light spruce]

Best advice you're probably going to get right now, but I'm damned sure you'll ignore it.

[frosty halo]

git submodule sync however is a thing

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/slam-smash-computer-slow-rage-gif-15806211

[pearl elk]

you know I feel like this summer game fest would be quicker without the presenter, just splice all these clips together and put a banner for the name of the game so we dont keep intro/outroing everything

[light spruce]

"kind of"

[frosty halo]

Well but like I said - since I don’t use UI how would I even know that.

[cursive crypt]

Hey, some guys like TortoiseGit... or the stuff in the VS.

[pearl elk]

sourcetree mustardrace

[quasi mantle]

Sorry.

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-check-the-source-check-the-source-fact-check-disinformation-misinformation-gif-18981937

[light spruce]

Christ. what a douchebag

HANG ON GUYS

[frosty halo]

But surely RTFM applies here too no?

[light spruce]

GOTTA ADVERTISE WHO I'M IGNORING

[pearl elk]

back in my day the entire OS was text based

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-avenger-scream-yell-roar-gif-14425902

[quasi mantle]

Just because of one screenshot.
ONE SCREENSHOT

AND YOU ALL RAISING PITCHFORK ON ME FOR "HERESY"

[pearl elk]

you GUI kids just dont get it

[regal pecan]

However, Lorash, you could learn to back off.

[quasi mantle]

ONE. SCREENSHOT.

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sign-of-the-cross-praying-hoping-nico-santos-gif-10946409

[pearl elk]

so many luddites

[frosty halo]

I think imma come back when the dumpster fire is put out

This is too spicy for me

[cursive crypt]

All is cool, popcorn time.

[frosty halo]

I’ve got pizza to cook. Time to get fat.

[pearl elk]

Im too spicy for my shirt

too spicy it hurts

[quasi mantle]

One screenshot, of my own device, my own project, my own stuff, and I'm almost get killed by a burning pitchfork.

[frosty halo]

Why don’t you just ignore them. You do you. Why even acknowledge.

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-knock-out-hurt-ouch-gif-12216186

[light spruce]

Yeah, I mean that was a big deal

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, think I should've been.

[light spruce]

Wear that badge of shame with honor, friend.

[frosty halo]

I saw but that’s what I’m saying y’all just need to chill and remember there’s a human on the other end of this chat. Just be fucking kind.

Not hard.

Goes for everyone tbh.

[pearl elk]

Chilli Spice

no dice, eat a bowl of rice cuz its important to be nice

[frosty halo]

I’m not blaming you. Or pointing a finger at you. I’m talking in general terms.

[pearl elk]

points a finger

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-finger-pointing-up-no-way-gif-15235665

[frosty halo]

Mmmmmm sosij

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-ramsay-bolton-iwan-rheon-sausage-gif-5591820

[pearl elk]

yes thats what we need, a good flaying

[frosty halo]

Flaying is just a fancy word for “level 2 naky”

[pearl elk]

feast on the blood of a virgin game dev to bring new life back to the industry

[regal pecan]

Oh good, we're onto gorn now.

[cursive crypt]

Above the buttocks, you say?

[regal pecan]

backsides

[pearl elk]

wanna have your butt shopped... for culture

[frosty halo]

Posteriorés

[cursive crypt]

To be fair, maybe there is a need of butt encyclopedia

[light spruce]

I'm pretty sure that's a more important distinction than mere "nuance"

[frosty halo]

That’s called PornHub I think

[light spruce]

I think pornhub is basically dead now

[frosty halo]

SAVE THE BUTTS

Kickstarter

The internet hasn’t been the same ever since Harambe died.

[pearl elk]

hold onto your butts

or they might get stolen

[light spruce]

https://giphy.com/gifs/samuel-l-jackson-jurassic-park-hold-onto-your-butts-OCu7zWojqFA1W

[frosty halo]

I like how this implies the existence of some butt-bandit

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-chaos-theory-jurassic-park-gif-9379994

[light spruce]

Not to be confused with the ass-crack bandit, who is a different person

[frosty halo]

Yeah.. and he re-sells them. So just like my drug dealer - he cracks me up.

[light spruce]

Community. get some culture

https://giphy.com/gifs/mash-up-jurassic-park-ian-malcom-3oD3YQjT2cSZTsy6Va

aww

Someone doesn't like Jeff Goldblum without his shirt on

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-jurassic-part-dr-malcolm-dinosaur-poop-gif-5262492

[light spruce]

Yog'hurt Eldritch hellspawn yogurt

[regal pecan]

Just to be annoying: It implies that what you're about to go through will test how strongly you are attached to your butt.

[light spruce]

my butt and I can part ways any time

[frosty halo]

It’s just Velcro straps my guy. I can’t afford glue.

[regal pecan]

You'd better hold on tight then.

[light spruce]

I can .... I can quit ... a .. having a butt... ANYTIME I WANT... I just... don't rightnow

[frosty halo]

sir mixalot has joined the chat

[light spruce]

"In 2019 he became the spokesperson for Cards Against Humanity's new "Ass Pack"."

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-mix-alot-big-butts-gif-19551628

[frosty halo]

That can’t be real