lounge

[pearl elk]

soon discord will just disable all the images

[tulip orbit]

I havent seen that much blank space since I made a list of my achievements

[fathom wadi]

lol

[deep glen]

what did i miss?

[fathom wadi]

Thats what my relevant CV looks like after the past couple of years

some douche spam posting huge blank images

[pearl elk]

you missed the grey, it was hoooge and grey and wasnt even 50 shades

[light spruce]

that's what the inside of my head looks like on a good day

[cursive crypt]

damn, always the interesting stuff, just few mins away

[deep glen]

odd, must have gotten auto-banned by discord or so, because the moderator log does not show anything

[pearl elk]

atleast post tits or something if you wanna get banned 😛

[cursive crypt]

Flood spamming? 🤔

[deep glen]

or someone used discords regular banthingy

[fathom wadi]

there are some discord mods around these days so maybe they caught it

[cursive crypt]

huh... discord employees in this server?

[fathom wadi]

aye

[light spruce]

All I know is that I suddenly looked over and saw this big-ass blank window

[fathom wadi]

I forgot what I was going to reply too.

[cursive crypt]

Some rant prolly

[fathom wadi]

I think it was something about Epic should give me money to rent a team and I'd make a truly epic game with it or something lame to that effect

[pearl elk]

it was definitely manually deleted, they went away 1 by 1

[cursive crypt]

👻

[pearl elk]

I think it was just emphasising my point that Epic needs to sell their game tools alittle harder 😛

[tulip orbit]

maybe the poster decided "wait, this isnt relevant to the discussion" and deleted them himself?

[pearl elk]

you know with a big AAAAAA game thats just amazeballs UE5 shiney whizz bang nanine choomens

still trying to think of an UE4 game I played which could rival some of the SP ones on other engines like idtech, decima, northlight and ummz

Quantic Engine

[fathom wadi]

I have a solid game idea that uses all the new tech, but it's so spread across different disciplines that my generalist approach might not be good enough, and it's so much work I'd not finish it by myself without dying from brainache.

[pearl elk]

lol whatever you call it

I played Dark Pictures Anthology, theyre good but not that big budget SP stuff like Death Stranding you know

[cursive crypt]

Maybe you need not only a generalist in your team, but also an universalist.

[pearl elk]

God of War, Last of US 2 etc etc

there were lots in UE3 days, not so much for UE4 that I can think of

[fathom wadi]

Sounds about right Ryobg. More like I need timesavers. I can do each bit one at a time but to make it all work professionally it needs specialists. I feel like I am done trying to make games as a solo dev. I've had zero success, extended burnout and start mentally going to my bad place. It's a horrendous responsibility when you have a family and the house is falling apart around your ears and is too small for the occupants. But enough of that whining. Im gonna go distract myself with someone else's game

[pearl elk]

looks like I cant apply since Im a quantumist

I highly recommend working in teams where ever possible, its good to have someone to bounce things off of

[fathom wadi]

its more gruntwork required than anything else. Got loads of inspiration, loads of heads to bounce from in my network (truly great devs) but getting the work done solo, meh.

[cursive crypt]

Aye, you just need to find kinda common concept/goal and a reliable dude.

[pearl elk]

your scope is reasonable right not like one of these everything games which is bigger than Star Citizen with 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of their budget 🙂

[fathom wadi]

naah I've tried even small games, things that virtually have no scope. Just a plonk it down idea, one step away from a prototype but with good assets. Yet everything takes forever and my mental health takes no time to spiral into shit-town. I'd probably be better suited just being the gruntwork guy myself as part of someone else's team.

with no power comes no responsibility kinda deal

[cursive crypt]

That also not bad, you can offer yourself 🤔 Change of pace.

[fathom wadi]

Might revert back to UI development for a while. See if I can get some money to move away

[pearl elk]

eeeek UI is the wurst

[fathom wadi]

I know thats my last resort tho

my 6 months of Blender studies is up today. It's been good and I have another skill. Perhaps do some hard edge modelling or something

at least I dont need to worry about polycount and baking out normals anymore 🙂

that guy seems to be getting more daring with his message + delete.

about as hidden as the smell from my ass tbh

[celest jasper]

I guess 🙃

[pearl elk]

oh no they arnt banned

[fathom wadi]

anyhow, again, I shall back away from using this channel to whine about my stupid ridiculous attempts at a career. Might go learn something new like plumbing.

[pearl elk]

all you need is shorts that show your crack and youre good to go

[celest jasper]

uh

[celest jasper]

Thanks for the career advice 🙂

[pearl elk]

quality of tutorials in this channel has been next level lately

[ivory lodge]

You're not stupid, no matter what the ducks say...

Seriously though, his talk about worldbuilding with blender is next level.

Free on amazon.

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/HL9un/1706cc6e6f.jpg

UE5 is such amaze

hashtag no filter

[soft night]

its full of filter

by the look

[pearl elk]

no air or oil filter 😛

[soft night]

MonsyFilter

[pearl elk]

thats okay I just imported the 180k wheel instead hehe

[quasi mantle]

Skyrim should've been cheaper at this point tbh

But then somebody still selling GTA V at full price, so no surprise.

[pearl elk]

lol, I'll use the one on the right for a horn

https://puu.sh/HL9Vg/cb2dd7fcd0.jpg

there we go, just dont look at the other side of the wheel its all an illusion

now to spin nanite really fast 😛

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/HLacv/82cda195ce.jpg

tada, edge fuzz. Looks alittle like the old AO (and SSR) ghost

[median wraith]

people comparing real military videos from youtube to cod and making jokes etc is kinda disgusting, when there are real people dying in front of the camera

[fathom wadi]

well the target audiences for war games are people who have never been to war. So you have to excuse their ignorance. Especially the ones who get off on gun porn.

[median wraith]

I never was in a war, but its about know whats correct and incorrect like idk... basics of the morality

[fathom wadi]

morality is subjective though. Some would say the real war is the immoral part and the game is the more moral way to exert violence

[pearl elk]

some people are fascinated by morbid things, I wouldnt hold it against all of them they dont mean anything by it

[median wraith]

is even worst on the case I spotted because there were comments like "Nice you all are watching this without worry while die people and explodes in live"

And the replies where like: "That isn't people, are terrorist"

wtf

[fathom wadi]

the internet. it's a drag.

[pearl elk]

I have friends who like to send me snuff pics of people in car accidents

[median wraith]

jesus

[pearl elk]

Im not a big fan of watching that sort of shit, I dont mind accidents but when people die or are proper hurt, no thanks

[fathom wadi]

people in those situations doesn't bother me unless someone is enacting the violence. Accidents are just a thing. But when its animals, I can't handle it

[pearl elk]

I dont even watch it if its motor vehicle racing most of the time, if I know the drivers gonna be okay I dont mind so much

[median wraith]

I remember to play that COD4 mission of the AC130 its was meh when I used to play, but you don't realize how absurd it is until you see some video of such fire power vs nothing they can do

[pearl elk]

I know people who cant even watch fake violence against animals, makes sense but in a game like Last of Us, I got NP shooting a dog coming at me

[deep glen]

on tlou I shoot bomb arrows at the dogs the moment I see them

but on video i dont like to see even fake violence against animals

heck, I rather not even hit the chicken in zelda XD

[pearl elk]

but you'd never go after a real doggo right, some people are just really twisted they dont really care irl at all either

[deep glen]

i'll probably be in jail if i see someone go after an animal

i'll punch their lights out

or at least attempt to

[pearl elk]

they try to blame that shit on games, the media etc but Im of the belief those people were always missing those morals

I seen cops shoot dogs in videos before, jeez it made me so mad cuz it tends to be so avoidable

but you got the usual people, oh the cop was in the right cuz the dog was running up on them grrrr

[deep glen]

we had a kid in school (kindergarten?) who was really ffed up.
near the school some ducklings where run over, and he was just playing with the leftovers
later on he showed his secret hideout in the park and it was filled with dead animals and experiments.
havent seen him since we told his parents

[pearl elk]

we used to mess around with dead snakes, just to scare people with mostly as a joke not to "experiment" on lol

[median wraith]

I remember the demand to COD WAW for the multiplayer dogs lol

[deep glen]

https://80.lv/articles/an-artist-creates-ultra-realisitc-animals/
metacats when

[pearl elk]

oh man, why you do this

[median wraith]

https://cdn.80.lv/api/upload/content/fe/60b4a49b8e122.jpg

oh lord

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-cats-angry-mad-ok-gif-9934420

[pearl elk]

I wonder if as things get more realistic if it'd trigger some of those moral reactions you get for reals

[deep glen]

iunno, i bet it would be... but iunno

[pearl elk]

tbh I think if I had a game where say a stray dog is looking through garbage and you walk past with a gun Id make it so you couldnt pew pew the doggo

[cursive crypt]

Censor? There is even now.

[median wraith]

the men in black dog was in 3D ?

[deep glen]

do it like botw, if purposely kill your horse, the god of horses rains down fury on you

[pearl elk]

lol, jeez Im going to hell for accidentally punching all those horses

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, not the first time there is collateral damage due to bugged AI, drunk player or else.

[pearl elk]

BF1 certainly didnt help my cause

half through a wall doesnt count right, horse was still okay just stuck 😛

[fluid bloom]

wtf

there was an "A-team of Finland" or something on simpsons

and they spoke with a swedish accent

that's like... the ultimate insult towards finns 😄

[median wraith]

so the DF in UE4 are stored in arrays or texture layers ?

[carmine frigate]

bonsai kittens ring a bell? 😛

[quasi mantle]

UE5 startup time do be faster than UE4 👀

[carmine frigate]

@pearl elk horses take punches verry well

the are used to getting kicked in the head by other horses

a horse kick to a humand would def send him to the hospital if not instantly dead

if you keep punching a horse on the head you wil be exausted b4 the horse is actually hurt

[quasi mantle]

So I'm porting UE5 icons to UE4.
I'm calling this effort Starship Backport

[fathom wadi]

@median wraith good question. I don't know the answer but if you find out, let me know. I'm going on the Unreal Engine Quiz Show next week. Trying to get to the final so I can win back the life I lost before I invested mine into game dev 😄

[median wraith]

I was reading this

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~scoros/cs15869-s15/lectures/04-GeometricRepresentations.pdf

Didn't even know DF were included into Voxel area

[carmine frigate]

tha fuck is hevedy upto again? 😛

[trim cloak]

source?

[humble remnant]

Do you know what I just realized

All that marketing talk about RTX with the global illumination, realistic shadows and what not

Suddenly UE5 comes out and it has those without requiring RT hardware

Novideo can suck it

[carmine frigate]

who knows , we might get unreal accelerator cards in the future 😛

CPU GPU and UPU

[foggy path]

Realistic shadows and dynamic GI have been a thing, but it's not the same as raytraced GI and shadows

[pearl elk]

Im sure the hardware helps though right

[foggy path]

and yeah Lumen runs very poorly unless you have very beefy hardware

not sure if they make use of RT in it or no but in any case

[humble remnant]

I think it makes use of DXR and you can enable hardware acceleration but still

It performs by far better on non-RTX hardware

[fathom wadi]

Lumen still has issues that RTX doesn't tho. So it's not all roses

[humble remnant]

Still

[fathom wadi]

Although you wouldn't know it from all the "Quick test in Lumen, OMG I rock look at my stuff now" posts

[humble remnant]

RTX had iissues too

[fathom wadi]

good boolean variable work then dude 😄

I kept the archviz groups im in non-muted for now so I can see what criticisms they come up with, but most of them are just impressed by Lumen. A few talk of the issues though and some people asking for help because of artifacts from lumen. Mostly they are good tho.

[humble remnant]

Tbh one thing I'm impressed by is how you can turn it on and off

r.DynamicGlobalIlluminationMethod 0~2

0 is none, 1 is Lumen, 2 is SSGI

Can be typed at runtime

[thorn musk]

Anyone know is Quixel Painter still being worked on?

[carmine frigate]

@humble remnant gunna check that out next time :p

oww runtime even

thats kinda dope

[torpid star]

texture

[carmine frigate]

today ill free up some diskspace and try that demo

[median wraith]

and it represents voxels on space or is just a ratio of % size scale ?

[torpid star]

what

[median wraith]

well are layers of images

are low quality resolutions or are pixels data ?

[fathom wadi]

@thorn musk Quixel Mixer you mean?

[torpid star]

right, so you can convert any N dimensional array into a 2d texture

the only thing that changes is the look up

idk how the df data is represented in ue, but I know it's stored as a texture in GPU memory

[median wraith]

so are low resolution layers

rather than voxel data

[torpid star]

voxels iirc

[thorn musk]

No Quixel had a Photoshop Plugin some time ago...

[fathom wadi]

ah Didn't know about that because Adobe are scum.

dropped them like a hot potato 😄

[thorn musk]

It was basicly Substance Painter in Photoshop and i hoped that when EPIC got Quixel they made some standalone painter

[fathom wadi]

well mixer is going that route now

[cursive crypt]

You just wanted to say it 🙂

[thorn musk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4IJuu0XSg

[fathom wadi]

hey. they lost my account and my cloud stuff. When I tried to recover it, they didn't have a clue I even had an account. Which really sucked.

worst support since I used a wet paper crutch on a broken leg.

What really sucks though is my daughter is learning art and animation so we had to buy her photoshop. But its on her not me :p

[cursive crypt]

Why not Krita then? Or that's what they want explicitly?

[thorn musk]

Doing some art sometimes is fine but at the end of the day im happy im a programmer 😂

[fathom wadi]

ryobg : Krita is nice and all but it's no photoshop. I wanted her to have the tool that the most tutorials work with too.

[humble remnant]

[quasi mantle]

Krita is a bit unintuitive.
I'd rather have FireAlpaca or GIMP to do pretty much the same.

It's mainly for painting.

But functionality wise, it's the same as Krita, Paint Tool SAI, or CLIP Studio.

Elemental Demo in UE5, for the lols

[light spruce]

2crudedudes

[fathom wadi]

thats kind of prophetic

[dense storm]

http://www.thegames.dev/snaps/RocketLeague_Z326URK3yN.png

kinda felt bad for them 😄

[quasi mantle]

I still don't get how Rocket League works...

[weak radish]

flying car + soccer + 9 year old children = rocket league

[dense storm]

9 year old children?

[tulip orbit]

9 1yr olds?

[weak radish]

I was joking lol

[quasi mantle]

9 year old children? Things are different in Asia server, even in...
Arena shooter + battle royale = Fortnite

[weak radish]

lmaoo true

but ever since rocket league went free so many kids flooded the game

[tired schooner]

When do you guys think 4.27 is going to release?

[tulip orbit]

sometime before the heat death of the universe, or possibly just after

[weak radish]

no that's ue5

[quasi mantle]

Summer 2021.

[tired schooner]

Oh is it set for summer 2021?

[quasi mantle]

I mean, it's there in the roadmap.

[tired schooner]

Oh cool

[zinc matrix]

There is a framework on github that deserializes meshes and textures,etc. from cooked unreal projects. I extended it to handle cooked/uncooked maps, somewhat similar to T3D, using plaintext. I just successfully tested it with Borderlands 3 UE4 maps reimporting into UE5 via a parser of said plaintext. So now there is scientific proof that when a statement such as Bioware's "when remastering mass effect, it was too complicated to upgrade the engine", there're just lazy and lying 😁

[quasi mantle]

I kinda understand Bioware's reasoning, though. UE3 to UE4 is vastly different, from the bits of the renderer to the codebase. It's not like UE5 which is directly following up UE4. Porting every engine modification they made in UE3 to UE4 would took too long.
It's arguably the same reason why NetherRealm sticked to UE3 for Mortal Kombat 11.

[zinc matrix]

That's exactly why I disagree with them. And you by proxy :-). It's all about serialized data. It's all a Turing machine. And it's scientifically possible to create a mapping between source and destination engines. Any engines. Especially when you have access to the source code. I've done random porting from closed source engines like from Bioware to Bethesda engines (it took me about three months to figure out the serialized mapping between these engines to automatically port content from Dragon Age Origins to Skyrim). It doesn't matter. It's only one predictable abstract entity, which is being serialized/deserialized via a predictable layout. it's just plain old science handling plain old data using plain old Turing. Any emphatic way to say otherwise is just wrong :D

[quasi mantle]

I don't need to read your rambles, which is basically asset ripping bullshit seasoned with Turing nonsense.

I dare you to port UE3/UDK stuff to UE4/UE5 without exporting from editor. Including the functional codes.

[zinc matrix]

heh

I've done conversion of UDK Alice madness returns unreal script bytecode to C++. Also Dishonored 1 maps to UE4. Why are you so upset with Turing :D

you are a valuable human being as an artist, and I'm a valuable human being as a scientist. Why can't we be friends?

I don't think I'm better than you. I just think that Bioware's statement was incorrect, and I have scientific proof for it :-)

[quasi mantle]

Okay, which uni do you study CS at?

[zinc matrix]

oh, I studied philosophy of science, unfortunately in a very small insignificant country. Programming specifically I am self-taught, mostly by browsing github repositories

[quasi mantle]

Huh, I thought you're a CS student somewhere, hence "Turing" stuff.

Though I don't think they make Turing stuff big deal in CS classes.

[regal pecan]

Bear in mind Bioware's remastering team consists of two interns, 5 artists, and 8 managers.

[zinc matrix]

what??!?

But I actually know of a programmer who at least at one time was involved in the remastering of mass effect

[zinc matrix]

Turing was actually part of the curriculum in the senior year in my school :-)

and other mathematicians, but specifically Turing was of interest to me due to my interest in serialization

Which gave me the Beavis and Butthead "I think I just figured something out" lightbulb thing

[regal pecan]

I've only heard of Turing being responsible for the famous Turing Test and Turing machines being hypothetical ticker tape monstrosities.

[zinc matrix]

Well, If I recall some history, in his original paper in 1936, when he used the word computer performing operations according to his machine, he was referring to an actual human being performing said operations. It was Nuemann I think who mechanized it . But the idea was of moving back and forth in a stream of data according to a set of instructions

Which should sound vaguely familiar to us when reading data and operating with it, including de/serialize

the set of instructions of course can mean anything, including but not limited to providing ways to read data from and change data so that another entity can process this destination/to as its from, I think it sounds confusing :D

[quasi mantle]

Wait, it's that one month again, isn't it?
I reckon Twitter news feed is going to be messy for the next 30 days.

[regal pecan]

I've been a bit under a rock. This remaster is Mass Effect Legendary Edition, right? And they kept it on UE3... or was it UE2?

[quasi mantle]

The OG ones use UE3.

[regal pecan]

And they looked it! (I've only played a demo for ME2

[quasi mantle]

It was back when Patrick Soderlund not enforcing every first party EA devs to use Frostbite.

Is it just me that hates Twitter's Topics feature?
I swear, those western political tweets I don't give a crap about still slips through my news feed.

[flint oasis]

Has anyone here worked with UProceduralMeshComponent

[quasi mantle]

Not me, but someone at #ue4-general or #graphics might use it.

[flint oasis]

Thanks I'll ask around there!

[regal pecan]

Now I'm imagining what happens if you port Quake over to Wolfenstein 3D

[quasi mantle]

For one thing, Wolfenstein 3D doesn't support angled walls. Many Wolf3D engine games suffer from that limitation.

[regal pecan]

I was initially stuck on the 3D to 2D conversion.

[quasi mantle]

It's plausible though to port Quake over to (GZ)Doom.

[regal pecan]

If you're porting the code, at what point are you porting, versus simply running Quake while using wolf3d as a very tortured math library? Or does it becomes a cursed emulator?

[quasi mantle]

Probably a dead frankenstein. Wolf3D engine is much more limiting fundamentally than Doom engine is.

At best you would do sprite swap and loose interpretation of the map.

[soft night]

nvidia something something

[regal pecan]

Quake doesn't have sprites though.

[soft night]

stream is on something something

[quasi mantle]

Well, that's up to you to convert the models to sprites.

[regal pecan]

This is going off smallpatella apparently "mapping" something between engines... but what? A binary blob?
At least Wolf and Quake both have software rendering, but Wolf would be purely integer while I'm pretty sure Quake uses a fair amount of floats.

[quasi mantle]

I said GZDoom port is much more plausible even for 1:1 port, because of GZDoom supporting total conversions with ACS/ZScript, and 3D models replacing sprite actors.

I mean, one has managed to port Unreal Tournament '99 weapons to GZDoom, in 3D model form.

[regal pecan]

Ah right. GZDoom basically being a 3D engine that can mimic Doom when it feels like it.

[quasi mantle]

I see that AZERTY 🤭

[quasi mantle]

Closer you'd get to true Doom engine would be Choco, Crispy, and Boom derivatives.

[soft night]

true doom engine would be doom

[pearl elk]

if you want a good looking Mass Effect play the Frostbite game 😛

theres my controversial opinion done for the week

[regal pecan]

I forgot that existed until just this hour.

Wonder if there's a post-mortem for why they suffered so badly, or if EA's reaction was to cover it up and give everyone a free NDA.

[pearl elk]

from what Ive heard from Mass Effect fans its not that bad, if anything the ending of 3 was more controversial just less memeable

tbh I tried playing Mass Effect 1 back in the day but it was too clunky to be enjoyable, I put a fair bit of time into Andromeda but ultimately the franchise is overrated 🙂

jeez Im on fire 😛

they coulda just made a space bar where you walk around and chat up which alien you want to bonk, save the grind

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-launches-june-22nd-supported-by-radeon-and-geforce-gpus

Thats hilarious, AMD though Nvidia needed a hand

[cursive crypt]

Just on time, why you mention nvidia tho?

[regal pecan]

They did this with DirectX raytracing, Freesync, and tried to do it with opencompute.

"In fact, AMD will enable FSR support even on Ryzen APUs and even competitors’ products."

[pearl elk]

yeah its an open standard, FidelityFX support is software level though so it wont be for every game

Nvidia keynote in 15min aye

[cursive crypt]

I dunno, so far, NVidia comes up with something properietary, AMD makes their own. Later, both agree on something common.

gsync, freesync e.g.

[regal pecan]

So far AMD has made everything open when they could. Probably because, with 10% of the market, they don't have the weight to push around standards.

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, tho it more than 10% afaik

... and for CPUs, according to Steam:

Somehow expected more steady rise for the GPUs, but I guess the fanbase is strong.

[pearl elk]

GPU is mainly availability atm

[cursive crypt]

At the end, they lack innovation there I think. Their CPUs started to prove themselves with Zen's and this I think is why the rise, for GPUs tho... nada.

[pearl elk]

AMD has a fair chunk of the console market not sure if FidelityFX plays any role there

[cursive crypt]

Consoles don't use Steam? 🤔

Not an user as you can see 😄

[pearl elk]

yeah so that graph is skewed

AMD is more than 25% of the GPU market easy

[cursive crypt]

I see... Not sure whether there is a aggregated survey for the different console vendors then.

[pearl elk]

Samsung and AMD have a joint project coming too

Exynos with AMD GPU

even Intel had em on CPU too 😛

[cursive crypt]

Hmm...

[pearl elk]

new Teslas are RDNA 2 powered hehe

Im assuming its more to do with portability so they are similar to consoles to just bump things across than having to make some sort of mobile variant

[cursive crypt]

Open sourcing and compatibility. Kinda what Khronos is doing.

[pearl elk]

well AMD did drop Mantle pretty quick when Vulkan happened

Im guessing they are happy to jump onboard if someone has a good standard

here we go, Nvidya time

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, in fact, we should be happy there is some competition. Even tho it is between these two. Looking at the CEOs they can be just a family if you ask me.

[pearl elk]

they are family lol

cousins or some such 😛

[cursive crypt]

Really?

[pearl elk]

lol yup

[cursive crypt]

Df... family business, we have been mocked. Like Coca Cola and Pepsi

[pearl elk]

is this test pattern the standard youtube countdown, seems like everyone uses the same

[cursive crypt]

?!

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kio8Hn8f3U

too late, onto their countdown now

[cursive crypt]

These two also cousins. Is that Picard?

[pearl elk]

thats Picard and his son

he cheated on Dr Crusher with the Dr from Deep Space Nine

dont ask me how two men made a baby... its the future, people can teleport 😛

[cursive crypt]

Maybe printed with that badass material printers they have.

[pearl elk]

everyone should be able to print their own GPUs

open source hardware

I still wonder if Nvidia uses AI to design their chips aye, seems kinda odd to have all this AI capability and not put it to work

[regal pecan]

Probably not the competitive/generative style of AI that needs a load of comparative data.

Give that a lot of chips with bad performance and it will just give you back chips that look like chips with bad performance.

[pearl elk]

lol Advanced Optimus

how do they not call it Optimus Prime

3080 Ti, there it is

[unborn lotus]

I wonder what the pricing will be considering any 3080 is a tleast 2700$ on our local retailers

[regal pecan]

Availability might be better. They're supposed to be less good at crypto mining because of the inbuilt crippling mechanism, but we'll see how quickly that gets subverted.

[cursive crypt]

Kinda noticed, ppl flexing with their 30x0 cards nowadays

[pearl elk]

man you know, Ive been thinking about things

I was talking to a guy back in the UE3 days about Nvidia GPUs in servers because at the time even the dedicated servers needed Shader Model support to operate. He was talking to me like he didnt know what I was on about and Nvidia didnt even factor into the conversation, looking at Nvidia now and its entirely different

It wasnt even that long ago really, I sometimes forget how far things have come because Im looking forwards more than I look back

[ocean marlin]

Hey, i know this is not the right place to ask but maybe someone of you guys will know this, when your pc has a power failure, normaly you can just boot up again and it has no harddrives errors right?
Now i don't remember what i did over the years but, that option seems disabled for all my drives, so now when i powerfailure ocurs, it asks me to scan all the drives for errors ... you guys happen to know what i have to turn on again or change or whatever?

[quasi mantle]

I'm gonna challenge myself making FPS animations in one hour.

[light spruce]

I'm going to assume that when it takes me sixty seconds to do the button on one of my cuffs that it's a harbinger of the rest of the evening

[cursive crypt]

random blabbering in #lounge

[quasi mantle]

If UE5's editor UI is nicknamed Starship, then UE4's editor UI should be nicknamed Bento (because you can't collapse docked tabs)

[light spruce]

I would ask "why does it need a nickname?"

[pearl elk]

still cant pin tabs tho

[light spruce]

Pin them to what?

[soft night]

me watching some thermaltake expo

[pearl elk]

pin them in place so you dont accidently drag em

[light spruce]

I don't think that's a problem that Iv'e ever had

[pearl elk]

was actually the cause of quite a few bugs in UE4

you could get stuck entirely in the drag tab state and the entire UI became non-functional

its the way its done, its responsive which is great in some ways but very bad in others

sometimes you just want to switch tabs and it'll start dragging

[pearl elk]

maybe if we put drag tabs on apostrophe 😉

[light spruce]

Definitely never had that happen

[pearl elk]

Ive been using UE far longer so maybe its just experience

Ive had this issue since UE4 beta and some of the bugs are fixed but some still linger

[light spruce]

I feel pretty confident that it isn't a problem that will be solved by pinning tabs then

[quasi mantle]

Hiding Tabs is probably the closest you can get to pinning tabs in place.

[pearl elk]

yeah that doesnt work so well with asset tabs 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Also annoyances when dragging tabs and the editor momentarily froze.

[cursive crypt]

tabs vs spaces

[light spruce]

If you use spaces, you're objectively wrong.

[soft night]

tabs inside spaces

[regal pecan]

notepad++ plugin that displays tabs as spaces

[light spruce]

The tab key inserts a tab not some random number of spaces. You want to change the spacing, you do it on your end by setting what your tab stop is.

[quasi mantle]

Spaces for Python
Tab for other languages with semicolons.

Got some pretty good ideas from Manny recently...

Muscular kittens looking for vengeance is pretty intriguing 😾

[pearl elk]

but your arms are tentacles

[cursive crypt]

For the curious:
http://www.elopezr.com/a-macro-view-of-nanite/

[light spruce]

I should start programming again.

[light spruce]

And maybe I'll do that if my jaw stops hurting. Maybe I'll eat a live bird.

More importantly... anyone seen my watch?

[cursive crypt]

My watch? It is in the kitchen.

[fathom wadi]

I haven't done any programming in a while. I didn't even burn out on programming, it was animating manually with control rig before it worked properly.

[light spruce]

Maybe I should have asked if anyone had seen My Jesus-Blessed Cocaine Pillow

[light spruce]

Or you could buy a 3080 today for 1199

Oh wow. Thanks to Metacritic, I now know that Hentai Boy released yesterday

[fathom wadi]

I really want that Ti bit on the end of the number. It makes me feel like it's got two thirds of a breast attached to the end.

[light spruce]

' "It hurts... I don't wanna die" said the little Teddy Bear. His body was split in two, blood and guts were gushing out of the abdomen, tears streamed his face and sobs racked the bones of his body sprawled on the ground.' ... are these actual games or am I just reading randomly generated shit?

[fathom wadi]

that sounds like creepypasta stuff to me

[light spruce]

"VR Nudity Camping
Platform: PC
May 27, 2021
It's just you and a beautiful woman on a desert island. You can do things like chase one another and camp out together!"

I think I quit.

Nope. I was wrong. We all quit.

"Tidal Locking
Platform: PC
May 24, 2021
This game is made of unreal 4 engines. In the game, the player will play the role of conqueror, eliminate the rebels and win."

No one is using multiple Unreal 4 engines. There's no way to compete. Everything has been eclipsed.

[quasi mantle]

What if the game actually have four builds:

• modded UT'99 (which is UE1)
• modded UT'04 (which is UE2)
• UDK/UE3
• UE4

[light spruce]

Then we're talking about a sorcerer and we're all fucked.

[median wraith]

These exists ?

[fathom wadi]

they will do.

[median wraith]

Starting "599"

In european price starting 2000€

600$ base price for a serie 70

[fathom wadi]

The other bonus is Nvidia's cryptomining card is getting pushed out soon so there might be some relief on the demand for the gaming gpus. Probably won't be a rush of second hand cards as they are still useful to miners, but the next set of batches at least. Except if I were a company, I'd be scalping them myself.

[median wraith]

I bet soon they will post only montly cost as they do with other things

It's so expensive that will give you only the montly payments cost

[median wraith]

Not gona happen, as they tried with a chip and they managed to hack it in a day

[light spruce]

It's pretty easy to "hack" that when you explicitly tell people what to look for

which they did

"by mistake"

[quasi mantle]

Miners are not stupid being.
They can still stole gamer GPU stocks.

[median wraith]

yeah they released a driven months ago to try it

and they totally failed

[quasi mantle]

Resistance is futile.

[fathom wadi]

they can, but if its equivalently cheaper per unit to get back costs on a mining card, it wouldn't make sense unless the mining cards ran out too

[quasi mantle]

If the mining cards are cheaper, then you'd have super gamer nerd hack the GPU to be gaming capable.

[light spruce]

The entire concept is dogshit. "We're going to artificially dick around with the way the GPU works in an effort to stop a market segment

[pearl elk]

Good luck with those prices lol

[quasi mantle]

And then miners going to war with gamers, for god knows how many times already.

[fathom wadi]

I don't think it works that way. Why would they implement graphics capabilities on a mining card? It's hardly gonna have the same tech right?

[pearl elk]

the solution is simple, mining games

you know we have too many farming games 😛

[quasi mantle]

Speedrunning Minecraft 1.16 random seed glitchless category

With cheats, obviously, just like what The Lord and Saviour Dream himself endorsing

[pearl elk]

too muc girly craft in those mines

we need more manly mines, with muscle survivor dudes

[quasi mantle]

For real though, I like speedrunning, though I speedrun Doom at times, not Minecraft.

[pearl elk]

making a weight set out of rocks and sticks

so each run on a level in Doom should generate a hash, is thats what youre saying

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of which, it's absurd how games back then have their RNGs affected by seemingly unrelated things.

[pearl elk]

we can call it "proof of staking demons"

[quasi mantle]

It's actually LMP file, and it's nothing more than demo, consists of vanilla compatible inputs.

Which is why ZDoom derivatives are not good source port for speedrunning.

[light spruce]

"RNG" "seemingly random things"

[quasi mantle]

I really hate those clickbaity "news" YouTuber piggybacking UE5 Early Access to drive their console fanboyism agendas.

[median wraith]

For some reason these youtube videos call DF voxels all the time

meanwhile aren't technically

[cursive crypt]

Well... voxel is a 3d cube. It can be rendered, it can be not.

... a position on 3d grid.

[quasi mantle]

For one thing, the first Echo demo is only running on PS5, this of course drove PS fanboys crazy. "I bet your Xbox SeX can't do UE5, huh?"

Even though we all know that Unreal Engine always been cross platform...

[pearl elk]

the latest demo was shown on Xbox as well as PS5

XSX or whatever we want to call it for short

Microsoft Really Bad Naming Conventions Party MRBNCP

[quasi mantle]

Honestly it wouldve been better if they just follow the full rotation convention. Xbox 720, Xbox 1080.

[pearl elk]

XB2 or 4... or 42

[quasi mantle]

But then ninth gen is all about 4K, so it could've been Xbox 1080 in lieu of XSS, and Xbox 4K in lieu of XSX.

[pearl elk]

well its more like Xbox 1440 because most frames arnt rendered native 4k 😛

they coulda gone with Roman numerals so it was like IX, X, XI, XII 😛

https://tenor.com/view/so-badso-bad-gif-8217250

[quasi mantle]

Also Xbox 4K would be more fitting as Xbox Series is the 4th Xbox console.

[pearl elk]

or is it

4th generation perhaps

but I do think that would work cuz the Series S coulda been Xbox 2K or somethin

[quasi mantle]

Though ironically Final Fantasy is well known for Roman numeral convention and unanimous with PS.

[light spruce]

I want like ... six breakfast burritos

[pearl elk]

PSV

[median wraith]

we are waiting for Godot 5

Unity 5 was the last

Cryengine V is the current

as UE 5

Blender 5 will come by UE 11

[quasi mantle]

UEIV

[quasi mantle]

Unity 5 was good tbh

[light spruce]

Arguably, everyone is waiting for Godot.

[median wraith]

When I started using blender it was the version 2

we still in 2

[quasi mantle]

It's not until Unity, for whatever reason, adopting yearly versioning, that make me felt like Unity is declining in quality.
My bias with UE probably didn't help tho

Blender 3.0 is like another version of UE4
When Blender 2.8 is like UE3 to UE4

[pearl elk]

3dsmax 2023

[quasi mantle]

You probably ever used UDK once tho

[quasi mantle]

What's new in 2023? Another samey release notes?

[pearl elk]

I dunno, I just hope its released this year 😛

[quasi mantle]

Japanese kanji is so confusing.

On one hand, you have one kanji letter representing many vowels, and on the other hand, you have one vowel represented by more than one kanji letter.

[pearl elk]

well I been using 2022 for a month or so lol

I figure 2023 should be out end of the year

[fathom wadi]

you not on the blender train Mons?

[pearl elk]

nah Im not juicing, I save that for Apple

[quasi mantle]

Like, the surname "Baba", being represented by two kanji letters:
馬場

[fathom wadi]

damn. it's getting tastier each release. Feels like getting presents instead of shat on by autodesk 😄

[quasi mantle]

It only have one repeated vowel, being "ba", but you have two kanji for each instance.

[pearl elk]

dunno bout that, Autodesk has been actually doing stuff lately

especially in the poly modelling department

[fathom wadi]

yeah they had to I guess. Blender has been getting real since 2.83

[quasi mantle]

That's it for my Japanese rant of the week.

[pearl elk]

Max has been fine for my needs since the nitrous viewport update, it can push a heap of polys

[fathom wadi]

I dropped it back in 2017 when I bought a 4K monitor and they didn't support it. Absolutely astounded me. They gave some shitty excuse about it being too big a task then released the next version with support but I wasn't for buying it at that point. Moved to Maya instead but that lasted about 6 months for me.

I have to say though, Blender has always impressed me, even with it's lacking features and bugs

still miss that stack tho

[pearl elk]

2015-2017 were the worst years for Max because of the .net updates

[fathom wadi]

how would it work with nanite?

[pearl elk]

Maxs new retopology modifier is masterful, theyve updated alot of the modifiers too now

[quasi mantle]

Does FBX worked with Nanite? Haven't tested it with museum scans

(And honestly I doubt my potato could even support Nanite - the debug view just shows the final colour of the scene)

[median wraith]

me trying to see hows the interior of a militar vehicle, and every video showcases everything except what I'm looking for

😂

[fathom wadi]

fbx wont work with it because its virtualized. You could send the original asset out but im not sure how the dynamic lods would stream out

[pearl elk]

Nanite doesnt blend

[quasi mantle]

Will it Blend theme plays

[fathom wadi]

ponkkis I've read about people asking if they can export the lods (so to speak) but im guessing its all done in memory so might need ripping. That being said, taking the original asset and decimating/retopo manually is the same thing right? You would just need to measure distance from cam to screen percentage ratio and figure out the quality level

I guess so

its ok it's the lounge. joke accepted.

[quasi mantle]

Also UE4's decimating tools is decent for generating HLOD

No Simplygon needed, thank God.

[fathom wadi]

first tuesday of the month. That means free assets today

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of which, are people still use Simplygon these days?

[quasi mantle]

Well, I had to wait for midnight for the free asset

Usually it lands afternoon in PST, which is midnight in WIB (Western Indonesia Time)

[fathom wadi]

I cant even visit the Unreal marketplace right now. It's stuck in a permanent redirect loop 😮

[quasi mantle]

I can't download Marketplace assets as well.

[fathom wadi]

what the actual web crap is this? It's trying to log me out, so it can log me in, but looping the redirect.

Hey Unreal... nice website. It would be a shame if someone.... fixed it ¬_¬

[light spruce]

!8ball binary

[turbid spindle]

@light spruce, :8ball: You may rely on it.

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Should I buy soda right now?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[fathom wadi]

oh the marketplace isn't updated yet anyway.

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Should I buy Nori for making onigiri too?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: Outlook good.

[deep glen]

!8ball should Hoodie make a seven course meal today?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[light spruce]

Phase One: Drugs; Status: Complete
Phase Two: Breakfast Burritos; Status: Initiate

[pearl elk]

!8ball what is phase three?

[turbid spindle]

@pearl elk, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[median wraith]

some one here uses substance painter and have exp on it ?

[dense storm]

got myself a new car, pick it up next week 😄

[tulip orbit]

rocking that moderator money I see

[tulip orbit]

Have used it, but never got good enough to be of any help

[foggy path]

I never quite understood why you'd add a bodykit like that into an SUV..

like.. you want a car that looks like that? Why not just buy I dunno an AMG wagon or something?

if you want a Range Rover just buy one that actually functions as a Range Rover lol

[dense storm]

meh 😄

i just like big cars

i hate small dinky cars

[foggy path]

I mean E class wagons are pretty big, not as tall as an SUV I guess

[tulip orbit]

zomg: yeah tell that to the all the guys in my province who drive huge raised pickup trucks and only ever drive around the city

[foggy path]

you could get an Escalade or a Navigator instead, I mean those aren't really any good offroad to begin with...

:D

[foggy path]

well that's fine if they don't wanna but at least they don't put ridiculous bodykits on them that make it impossible to do so I'd imagine lol

[median wraith]

How dare you, are you saying ours is small ?

🤖

[median wraith]

too bad, wanted to do a lerp but no idea how

[fathom wadi]

I'd rather be in the big car in an accident than the small car underneath the big car.

[median wraith]

tbh cool kids now get fake SUVs

build over a small car but on a bigger chassis

[foggy path]

I guess I should become a discord moderator too

brand new range rovers are like... 150 000 eur here or something?

lol

[light spruce]

that's called a "crossover"

[tulip orbit]

actually some of them do. was especially common during the oil boom when they had lots of money to waste

[foggy path]

lol

[tulip orbit]

most just raise the trucks so you need a ladder to get in

[light spruce]

That's called a "bro-dozer"

[quasi mantle]

I'm still conflicted if I should get those fancy electric cars or not.

Considering that EV chargers are super rare in my country, it would be redundant to have one.

[median wraith]

yeah

[light spruce]

I'm an expert on three things: 1) Guns 2) Car terminology 3) Reasons I hate myself

[median wraith]

Well here are from 50k

up no idea what

[light spruce]

Charging and expense are both still complete shitshows for EVs

[median wraith]

still the common price the people pays for a car here is in the 10k to 25k range

[quasi mantle]

I mean, I still haven't decidated myself into car driving courses to begin with, so what I know from Grand Theft Auto driving won't be applicable IRL.

[light spruce]

Plus how awful they are if you're in a place with cold weather

[foggy path]

Used

[median wraith]

Not even the houses cost that much

[light spruce]

You're right; the houses someone owning a Land Rover would purchase would be more expenisve

[median wraith]

Maybe that's why is called Land + Rover

It comes with a land or something

[median wraith]

well yeah

[pearl elk]

you could buy a house for the price of a land drover

oh right there it is

I heard in Italy you can buy places for $1 before stamp duty etc because they want people to fix em up

[humble remnant]

New marketplace freebies today

[quasi mantle]

Isn't it lands later this afternoon (PST)?

[pearl elk]

who wants to bet its all the packs I bought the other day

[quasi mantle]

FYI: The salt lasts around a month

Except if it got promoted into permanent free.

[pearl elk]

I demand justice

[light spruce]

I demand that my fountain pen come with a backspace key

[pearl elk]

what you do right is you grab the paper in one hand, close your hand into a ball and throw over your shoulder

voila, backspace

its a gesture interface

[median wraith]

A thermal vision should use normalmap at all?

[quasi mantle]

Wait what

[pearl elk]

Any ideas how I can achieve this effect? http://www.globallinemarking.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Raised-Concrete-and-Road-Reflective-Markers-Gold-Coast-Brisbane.jpg

Its not exactly emissive since they react only to light

[humble remnant]

I'd check if there's a way to see how lit they are

Probs some input handles that

And based on how lit they are, add that to emissive

[pearl elk]

they dont actually glow in the daylight though 🙂

[quasi mantle]

I guess reflective material is enough, especially if it's ray traced reflection.

[humble remnant]

Yeah, that's gonna be an issue

Something to do with eye adaptation is me guess

[median wraith]

Yeah actually I was about make a marketplace asset for that lmao

refractive materials

[quasi mantle]

Fully raster still works too, but the reflection won't be accurate.

[pearl elk]

well hop to so I can buy it 😉

[humble remnant]

Have the emissive low so that in dark it's more

[median wraith]

Its based on the spot light angle, camera angle and the surfaces angle

[pearl elk]

the street signs glow even more than this when I have my high beam on

[quasi mantle]

That would be best for Zinc Sulfide glow in the dark surfaces.

[median wraith]

I recorded a video but no idea where the hell is at

[pearl elk]

I'll have to do a run with my phone on the dash since I dont have a dashcam 😛

[median wraith]

I'm trying to get termal vision but failing at the textures

[quasi mantle]

Maybe you can add heat value to the material?

[median wraith]

yeah I adding an area manually because is the only way

[quasi mantle]

Although Custom Data only accept 0.0 to 1.0

[median wraith]

but idk what channels use to give the details and the heat effect

[pearl elk]

well this is wrong since thermally the cars engine would be the hot part 🙂

[median wraith]

Rough ? normal ? metallic ?

or a combo

[pearl elk]

this is more of a night vision, where the reflectance values are boosted

[quasi mantle]

I'm not sure if you can pass Custom Data stuff to Post FX

[mossy nexus]

Yarp, and the rear compartment should be much cooler. especially the front face.

[median wraith]

you can only read the defailt layers on post FX

but idk what layers use aside from the heat map to give the details

[quasi mantle]

GTA V faked it with some kind of Custom Stencil (or equivalent of it) so it's not accurate

[mossy nexus]

It may have changed since I last used thermal tech professionally but any glass effectively blocks heat sources unless that object is very close to the glass.

[median wraith]

GTA have termal vision ?

[quasi mantle]

Yes, although it's only on certain missions and not free roam. It's a post FX though, so can be easily toggled on with trainer mods in single player.

[median wraith]

well I will use AO for conservative eat

idk how to invert a layer here

[quasi mantle]

And it's not an accurate one either, since it's equivalent to UE4's custom stencil as opposed to using GBuffer channel.

[light spruce]

I write in a notebook. Otherwise, I'd have to have a stack of loose laser printer paper

[quasi mantle]

My best guess would be switching the material, but you would risk having a loose mesh rendered normally in thermal vision mode.

[humble remnant]

Arma has thermal vision but their engine is more patchwork than anything you'll ever see

[quasi mantle]

True thermal vision? Not stencil based one?

[humble remnant]

It might be stencil tbh

[light spruce]

arma

[humble remnant]

But their engine is horrid to work with

[light spruce]

I can't stop shaking

SQF flashbacks

[humble remnant]

Many things are kept since the first version

Or simply patched on for new features

[light spruce]

By first version you mean "Operation Flashpoint"

I'm pretty sure there's quite a bit that dates all the way back to that

It's fairly amazing how many things they actually manage to do right in the shittiest way possible

I think it might have been the first game that I played where night actually turned into night... Most of the time, games will just make everything dark as shit... but that's not what happens; you have less reflection of light, so you have less color saturation.

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHwFQQDOYPo

[median wraith]

Well at least COD had realistic NV

[quasi mantle]

Isn't NV in games basically screen desaturation and a light?

[median wraith]

in COD they simulated actual lights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-I4KkxsqYg&ab_channel=OperatorDrewski

[quasi mantle]

Not sure about the IR specific behaviours tho

[median wraith]

well this one simulates even what Mons requested

is the most realistic outthere

[quasi mantle]

Man, I got dehydrated quicker than usual.

[light spruce]

that "new thermal sight" font is a war crime

Real night vision is pretty fucking weird

[pearl elk]

new new new chermal sight

[light spruce]

CHERMAL SIaHC

I'm writing down "Chermal" to use for something

I know I won't remember what it's from

I haven't even gotten to the NVG part and I'm already upset at that terrible stack and enter on that fence

Dammit, Mons, WHY DID HE CLIMB UP THAT TACTICAL LADDER

[pearl elk]

He didnt lol, missed it at first, what a noob 😛

[light spruce]

right at the beginning, he uses the ladder to go up to the window.. in time to watch two other guys already entering the room

"Don't worry, guys! I'll cover you with my sidearm while I'm hanging onto a ladder and one of you walks directly across my line of fire"

the dead eye reflections a pretty good though

It took me forever to figure out what that rifle was

But man... what a mustache

[soft night]

in thermaltake ram mod contest one did a batmem

[carmine frigate]

was it in a cave?

[fathom wadi]

it would be nice if I could get to the unreal marketplace. The logout/login infinite loop is preventing me 😦

oh even better

[soft night]

watch and see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK3noeA9P68

[fathom wadi]

well deleting the login info fixed it but damn that was annoying

[median wraith]

@pearl elk this you wanted

isn't it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b0csk7IdJw

How much paid Crytek to that company to port their games ?

don't looks to me any better

[fathom wadi]

the problem with trying to make it look better is you won't fool a game dev who notices the minimal effort involved. Like how they "updated" the graphics on Mass Effect Leg End edition by porting the ME3 char meshes into the first game, or how they added some basic dynamic lighting where there was none.

[regal pecan]

Don't quote me on this, but large companies just see remastered editions as a cash grab.

No, do quote me on this.

[carmine frigate]

often its just upscaled settings

i dont play a lot of games cuz i dont want to start at part 4 and 1 /2 are super dated

so im all in favor of remasters done right

[regal pecan]

I'd settle for remasters that update games to run on modern hardware, and support widescreen resolutions. It's very trying to play an old game in 4:3 resolutions. (Also all the love for old games that supported arbitrary resolutions. You've done it right, lads.)

But it's very weird to see higher res textures on low polygon models. Or adding phong shading to a game where the level geometry has a distinctly flat aesthetic.

[fathom wadi]

I would prefer if they actually remade the game from scratch. Take out all the crap people agreed was bad, replaced it with something that was better. Whats worse though is when they do these "nostalgia" releases like Classic Wow and then completely wreck it trying to make some money from content that only makes you nostalgic for the reasons you left the game in the first place. At least Final Fantasy 7 brought something new to the table by making it a reboot. And guess what? people loved it. They just get fooled into buying old games again and eventually the entire remake/reboot thing will be met with purely cynical eyes.

[median wraith]

Well this looks kinda decent

[light spruce]

I would settle for a game that I wanted to play

clearly low standards here

60fps Bloodborne on PC though... that's something that I would sign up for.

[median wraith]

Well way better

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/kong-kong-movie-bombs-away-bomb-bombs-gif-7905252

[median wraith]

👀

[fresh heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDgyBKkSf7A

[mellow sluice]

Guys, I'm from Russia. A friend from USA called me "my dog" what does it mean?

[ivory lodge]

"My dawg." You are a member of their pack. So to speak.

[cursive crypt]

https://gfycat.com/hastyspanishaldabratortoise

Star Citizen afaik

[humble remnant]

Murder by box

[carmine frigate]

@cursive crypt i heared the created a working wormhole, and than tossed all kickstarter money in there 😄

[cursive crypt]

Physics simulation of wormhole can take time

[carmine frigate]

at some point in time we might use wormholes for data compression

[humble remnant]

Use a wormhole to store your data

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvAyEVP6L9k

decaaaals

[elfin cradle]

https://www.vgchartz.com/

[dusky seal]

Need For Speed:Most Wanted Vacuum Cleaner🤡

[zinc matrix]

@zinc matrix Oh nice a story about a claptrap?

[quasi mantle]

Imagine being lambasted for minding your own business in your personal profile.

[light spruce]

Things are obviously quiet when I'm not around. I should probably sleep more often.

[fathom wadi]

shh and try this new drink I call "the Cosby" 😄

[light spruce]

... This doesn't look like a sweater.

[deep glen]

https://i.gyazo.com/dd3a84ec69efa37e803a36c2b2daeb33.jpg
never seen Peach so sassy. also hnng that trail

[ivory lodge]

Too soon!

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlOz-1Qbrgk

weeeee

[ivory lodge]

Yes, it works by forcing your ship through a tiny wormhole.

[light spruce]

The Expanse.

Also, while the person you're thinking of did some heinous shit... I don't think it quite rises to the level of name retirement that Hitler did.

[fluid bloom]

agreed

epstein is a really common name

[tulip orbit]

named after the guy who also liked to put his "ship" in small holes?

[ivory lodge]

Technically it's just an efficient, anutronic fusion rocket. But I couldn't help myself.

[pearl elk]

oh look that Dreamworld game is on YongYea channel 😛

[humble remnant]

Waste of assets that one

[light spruce]

Do people subscribe to youtube channels just to bitch about the people on them? I'm really not clear on this.

[pearl elk]

I prefer the Weinstein Engine btw

[light spruce]

The Wankel is better

[pearl elk]

nah the Hybrid Synergy Drive

bet the person who pitched that at Toyota got peoples attention

[light spruce]

Upper management's dicks perked up at Synergy, I'm sure.

I don't know if it has that name in mine

I'd like a new NSX though, thanks.

[pearl elk]

pretty underrated car tbh, theres alot of cool tech that goes into those

[light spruce]

the new NSX is... underrated?

by whom?

[pearl elk]

amongst car people yeah it sure is, ask em and they'll give you answers like US muscle

C8 vette, pretty much everything except a Honda

even though brands like Genesis and Infiniti are killing it too

[light spruce]

Nissan really isn't so ... in the running at this point with the exception of the GTR

That NSX is nuts though.

[pearl elk]

we got a Honda water pump right, its like 30yrs old

[light spruce]

I have no idea how I'd handle a 9-speed gearbox though

[pearl elk]

we bought a new one, basically exact same engine just new... seems like they did it right first time around 😛

you dont handle a 9-speed gearbox, it handles itself 😉

[light spruce]

I think Toyota is really the last of the "bullet-proof" engine manufacturers

But, yeah.. with a 9-speed DCT... that's probably in the "just put it in auto mode and forget it" territory

I don't really need to go through three gears getting out of the driveway

[pearl elk]

most manuals are auto in the lower range anyways

it'll probably go from 1-3 without shifting

[light spruce]

I'm also not sure that there's a car on this planet that has a first gear that isn't a really questionable ratio

[pearl elk]

I was saying the other day its going to be funny in the future when kids sit in the drivers seat and go "oh what a manual" because they have to use the steering wheel

Dont do 1st in a Dodge Viper unless you got a death wish

[light spruce]

I wouldn't drive one of them at all, most likely

Well, they may have eventually moved the clutch pedal

[pearl elk]

not the most balanced car but 1st with a V10 front engine RWD

thats a disaster waiting to happen

[light spruce]

Yeah, you're going to go sideways immediately

[pearl elk]

if youre lucky yeah

[light spruce]

if you're not, you're going sideways sooner

[pearl elk]

lol facing the wrong direction in traffic real quick

needs 10 pound lead weights over the rear wheels

[light spruce]

Just a badly designed vehicle

[pearl elk]

Where theres a will theres a busted car 😛

C8 like new, 40% off

[light spruce]

Yeah, who doesn't need a good half cut

Sometimes.... depending.... you can actually get two half cuts and put it together and have it actually fit

[pearl elk]

they used to have what they called a Sleuth here, its 2 Nissans bolted together

180ZX and 200SX

car culture has gone abit down hill though since everything got so expensive, no one really wants to do crazy mods anymore just resto mod type stuff

you still got the hot rodders but they are all old guys with too much money, not that creative in terms of new fun things

https://youtu.be/0_Pwb00uElI

[light spruce]

I'd still like to do a Sileighty

Obvious problems include: The S13 Sylvia wasn't a thing here

[pearl elk]

ahh yeah thats a similar thing

[light spruce]

It's a bunch of fucking panels that would have to be imported

Because you need the hood and both fenders in addition to the front end

Basically just to get rid of those dumb fuck flip up lights

[pearl elk]

not a fan of the 400z tbh, it looks kinda like a lemon quite literally lol

its definitely got that fairlady lineage but I was never much of a fan of the original either

I much prefer the early Celicas they looked like smaller Camaros

[light spruce]

If you don't like the 240Z... you definitely can't be helped

like.. the most influential Japanese car of all time

[pearl elk]

its just a cheap knock off of an Aston Martin 😛

[light spruce]

I'd rather have a broken 240Z than a functional Aston Martin

It'd also probably be worth more.

[pearl elk]

you see we didnt get the 240z here we got the fairlady

which has a different power plant

[light spruce]

Probably the S30

Instead of the one that the 2.4L I6

[pearl elk]

Ive heard even the Japanese were buying the US ones because they were better

crazy how that works with exports sometimes

[light spruce]

All sorts of weird shit

The 180SX that was on the S13 chassis was the 240SX here. Came with a 2.4 liter KA24DE instead of the SR20

Also didn't have a turbo option as a result

Not that a KA24 is a bad engine to do an aftermarket turbo setup on (it's what I'd do)

[pearl elk]

ahh I see, you like your ricers 😛

[light spruce]

First car was an 84 300ZX

I'll take my better handling over dogshit heavy American bricks any day

[pearl elk]

my first car was an XD Falcon lol, basically a tank

[light spruce]

But... now I'm going to go run errands in a Lexus hybrid and remember what it was like shifting gears.

[pearl elk]

just pretend

I dont miss not having power steering in a huge 4 door tbh 🙂

[pearl elk]

so I think Im gonna be using Unlimited Detail instead of UE5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4

4:3 we meet again

watching it now we have UE5 Nanite is even better tho 😛

[quasi mantle]

Isn't the whole thing put into scrutiny?

[pearl elk]

well as far as Im aware they never released a game SDK

[light spruce]

power steering is for posers

You should have to rotate the steering wheel at least 100 degrees for a lane change and look like you just got out of the gym by the time you get to the grocery store

Man... the first 20 seconds of this video already upset me

[humble remnant]

Heyyy is that the actual Dreamworld engine

[light spruce]

I want 8 minutes of my life back

[quasi mantle]

Kinda surprised that the PIE sounds didn't change in UE5.

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1400123180082212867

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

BREAKING: Microsoft is holding a special Windows event on June 24th. It will include a look at what the company has been referring to as the next generation of Windows. Details here: https://t.co/Q3WNAOMli3

Twitter · Jun 2, 2021, 4:12 PM

[quasi mantle]

They never did, and never applied to a game that the public can try out, hence their stuff was debated and scrutinised until UE5 make the concept a reality.

[foggy path]

Monthly fee calling it now

[carmine frigate]

windows battlepas

return of the internet explorer

[hollow cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgMHsevUHtM

[humble remnant]

The asmongold thumbnail

[deep glen]

reaction videos

https://giphy.com/gifs/kellyclarkson-kelly-clarkson-i-dont-think-about-you-g0HkznFtL1d0xVRI1G

[quasi mantle]

The bias of being UE dev didn't help either.

[deep glen]

:p

[light spruce]

Anybody got any matches?

[fathom wadi]

yeah my arse and your face :p

chuckles and flees

before: "lighting wasn't up to scratch"

After: "Just doing a quick Lumen test "

[torpid star]

"we removed the control panel"

"we got rid of windows kernel and are using a custom posix kernel now"

I'm pretty sure even the people who work on windows hate windows

[tulip nova]

I've been going gray since I was 16, just been moving a little faster these days. More kids than work 🙂

[fathom wadi]

hah nice 🙂 that was from days ago though. Good looking out 🙂

[soft night]

news and interest custom wallpapers to virtual desktops

[fathom wadi]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/events/unreal-build-broadcast-live-events

yeah that is not normal.

I saw the website caught me in a login/logout loop yesterday so I had to delete my cookies for the site

[quiet narwhal]

@zinc matrixcan you repeat this issue?

yeah does it for me too, I think thats the default placeholder text lol. I will let them know

yep I just let them know

its not random, its always the same name

[ivory lodge]

I just learned C++ has lambda functions now.

And I'm way too excited about it.

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/that70s-show-eric-foreman-light-bulb-idea-gif-4680281

[ancient hornet]

only 10 years old info 😛

[torpid star]

reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkSslseq9Y8

[drowsy scaffold]

New NFT marketplace with Virtual gallery 3D/VR!

[turbid spindle]

:triangular_flag_on_post: Reejak [Raviole Studio]#3793 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

[ivory lodge]

What can you get muted for?

[uncut mauve]

Can somebody identify this thing on a photocopy machine? I'm modelling one and I have no idea what it's for. 😅

[ivory lodge]

That's part of their reproductive system.

[zinc matrix]

I just printed a book output tray

[uncut mauve]

Are we just throwing out guesses here? 🤣

😅

[carmine frigate]

looks like deployable landing gear

or a robot leg

[uncut mauve]

Ooooo

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/foxhomeent-office-space-milton-3o84U5xPhrn42WgBJC

[uncut mauve]

Okay, so it's a saddle stitcher 😄

Sounds like some form of stapling, if mr moderator up there is any indication 👀

[carmine frigate]

thats what it wants you too think

[deep glen]

its either a stapler, or a holepunchy-thingy

so yea, ponk is prolly right.

[fathom wadi]

I used a copy machine with built in AI. I was stood there printing out some worksheets and it said "You suck".
So I replied "I don't like your toner of voice".

Fed if I know Bubba. Fed if I know

love that movie

one of the best soundtracks for a movie ever too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFUGvdxuQGQ

[deep glen]

yea, id report that tbh

[carmine frigate]

now the question is does UE5 have an export skeleton to blender button? 😛

yea its funny cuz it sucks for so long 😄

[quasi mantle]

Also nitpick:
Some of the UE5 icons still having UE4 counterparts.

[quasi mantle]

Not in the long shot lol
Blender's skeletal system is so unorthodox, they don't give a damn about game engine application.

insert conspiracy theory about Blender Foundation getting salty after Blender Game Engine flopped hard

[carmine frigate]

nah its not that bad, anything custom exported to unreal is 100% fine

[fathom wadi]

I tried importing a metahuman to UE5 today and ran out of 32gb ram. First time I've ever done that since I got the ram

[carmine frigate]

its maya assets thats completely fooked

[fathom wadi]

also UE5 used up 20gb of my C drive today installing a project, and I dont ever use C drive for anything so its defaulted somewhere

[quasi mantle]

Though I also haven't tested if Blender's skeletal system plays nice with Godot as is, because of open source alliances.

[carmine frigate]

i have no idea how unity handles em

[deep glen]

!8ball should Hoodie make a 9 course meal this evening?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: Yes.

[quasi mantle]

Bypassing FBX middle man, I think.
Unreal treats anything as FBX if it's not going through datasmith.

[uncut mauve]

😮 8 ball.

[carmine frigate]

!8ball do you have a backstory?

[turbid spindle]

@carmine frigate, :8ball: Most likely.

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Should I dismiss Luos' meal offering and go on a diet?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[carmine frigate]

the gltf exported does a half decent job on the bones but not morphs

[deep glen]

lol

[carmine frigate]

and an eating disorder was born 😛

[deep glen]

!8ball dont you agree that an 8 course meal could fit a diet if its low in carbs and calories?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[deep glen]

!8ball do you wanna tell me now?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: Most likely.

[deep glen]

!8ball should we remove the !8ball option?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[deep glen]

posting that one in the moderator channel

[tulip orbit]

!8ball Am i awesome?

[turbid spindle]

@tulip orbit, :8ball: My sources say no.

[tulip orbit]

😦

[magic imp]

alright I gotta rant. I'll have everything working and source controlled then I open the editor the next day and stuff is randomly broken. Even after a hard reset via git. Does this happen to anyone else?

[deep glen]

!8ball can you tell me the sources in a dm?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: My reply is no.

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-the-office-hug-michael-scott-yidUzriaAGJbsxt58k

for Storm

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Most likely.

[zinc matrix]

fair

[deep glen]

great month to find out

[zinc matrix]

who said i just found out? XD

[deep glen]

true lol

[outer sky]

any Irish game devs around?

[drowsy scaffold]

Why muted because talk of nft

We can’t talk about crypto at a lounge ?

Wtf

[deep glen]

fine

[zinc matrix]

i'll never buy an nft in my life

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: Reejak [Raviole Studio]#3793 was banned.

[fathom wadi]

1 eth starting bid 😄

runs away

[tulip orbit]

running? no excercise!

[fathom wadi]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-57314928

[zinc matrix]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-56491584

Where we can talk about nft ?

Which channel ?

[tulip orbit]

probably a different server

[fathom wadi]

lol gets banned and comes back on a new account and gives himself away. So smart.

to be honest Ponkkis I don't mind it. It's gonna be part of game dev as soon as someone finds a way to get people to buy them as part of gameplay. It's made a few people richer than they were and when COVID has borked a lot of people's finances I think anything that introduces new ways to make money isn't half bad. But then just like in gaming, there is a lot of trash being sold.

If people want to spend on it though, more power to them.

[red pewter]

it's 100% financial speculation and it's going to fall apart fast

[fathom wadi]

of course but then a lot of stock trading is the same.

[red pewter]

and?

[fathom wadi]

sorry did I need an addendum to that?

[red pewter]

okay, sorry

my point is, even if it is just as much speculation as stock trading

it's really not tied to something like dividends etc

[fathom wadi]

yeah lots of scams about. Especially the sites where the owners buy the NFTs to boost the interest in it.

[zinc matrix]

Nft can be usefull in multiplayer game too, you can buy an item, skin, mount or whatever you want like a nft

[red pewter]

I guess you mean using the blockchain as a way to maintain ownership to game stuff without a central server?

[fathom wadi]

The most solid NFT i've seen is Sega selling old assets, like the original Sonic art from the first game. I can see that being a long term reseller. But someone's janky looped gif is way too risky to be considered an investment.

[zinc matrix]

For Example:

https://playtoearn.net/blockchaingames/All-Blockchain/MMORPG/All-Status/All-Device/All-NFT/All-PlayToEarn

@zinc matrix no your item can take value and is controlled

The exchange is controlled with the nft system

No risk to being stolen

It’s happening

[fathom wadi]

gaming NFTs are too risky also. It requires a combined source for the minting across titles, and unless all game publishers get on board it's not going to last long. Otherwise you may as well be saying "buy silver from the store". Same thing, different output.

games only last as long as the interest in them and most games don't last longer than a month for solid interest. Only GaaS has any longevity to sustain it

[red pewter]

also reeks of just crypto hypemongering

[fathom wadi]

I guess its a FIFO system really. The hypetrain is real for a moment, but like all hype, it crumbles under scrutinization

perhaps we should mint the e-sports players. Then you get a real human for your money. Wait... no thats like slavery. Scratch that 😄

[zinc matrix]

Yes you are jesus

[fathom wadi]

time for netflix and chill. Watched Cyborg Cop 2 last night. Let's see if the wife can pick a worse movie tonight. #truelove

[zinc matrix]

Just remember we talk about nft right now and see what happen in 2-3 years

@zinc matrix

[rustic falcon]

Hi all. We are doing research into the coolest games created with UE4. There's a few lists out here, but we was curious to hear y'alls thoughts. I hope this is the right channel to post this question in. Much much appreciated!

[turbid spindle]

:no_entry_sign: Netad#4119 was banned.

[deep glen]

ban evasion. so hot right now.

[zinc matrix]

Gotta love watching Manny mercilessly ban someone right in front of our eyes.

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Outlook good.

[stoic turtle]

I asked about keyboards before but this time i will be specific

Does anybody recommend a good keyboard that is Bluetooth multi device (pc/mac/ipad) comfortable for long periods and 100-150 usd budget?

[quasi mantle]

This whole NFT thing felt like a massive shady MLM crap hole.

[quasi mantle]

Didn't know much about peripherals, but maybe Logitech stuff fits the bill.

[stoic turtle]

Yeah Logitech mx key was on my mind but its not recommended here

So i need unreal engine users recommendation on multi device Bluetooth keyboard

[robust gulch]

!8ball will I make over $1000 with my projects

[turbid spindle]

@robust gulch, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[robust gulch]

:(

!8ball will I make over $1000 with my projects

[turbid spindle]

@robust gulch, :8ball: Most likely.

[robust gulch]

Poggers

[soft night]

!8ball will the summer be success?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

[unborn lotus]

!8ball will I ever release a game made in UE?

[turbid spindle]

@unborn lotus, :8ball: Ask again later.

[quasi mantle]

https://youtu.be/uicIPhQGeLw

AMD's FSR is the DLSS parallel, and seems like it requires per-game installation basis.
Wonder when they will drop the UE4 plugin of it 🤔

For one thing, DLSS is available as a UE4 plugin that anyone can install, while FSR is still closed and per request basis.

[regal pecan]

Wonder how it handles the graphical issues with DLSS. The per-game installation makes me think it's not solely a postprocess effect.

[pearl elk]

AMD are not closed about their software, its not like gameworks

https://gpuopen.com/

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/open-gif-8591394

[pearl elk]

Kinda sucks Nvidia pushes Omniverse now rather than having plugins we can use for UE5. I didnt mind the gameworks build of the engine but those were largely maintained by the community not Nvidia

Tbh Omniverse looks like a custom build of Unreal Engine to me anyways lol

[cursive crypt]

Considering Epics move on onlive editing, I wouldn't bother. However, some ppl might be eager for more & now.

[pearl elk]

Yeah Epic are well positioned, Nividia really need a console to show off their proprietary tech better. Maybe this new ARM laptop they got going but its not going to get the same install base as a PS5 or XSX

[carmine frigate]

they have the switch

[pearl elk]

I do think a game tuned for Nvidia only could absolutely kill it on fidelity there's just not much of a reason to

Switch is last gen

Infact if we are talking Nvidia gens its even older

[carmine frigate]

didnt they show some raytraced fortnite for some reason?

[pearl elk]

PC

[carmine frigate]

was that lumen, wil that ever make it in?

as far as i know RTX is pretty much a bust and every1 stopped caring 😛

[pearl elk]

Well Nivida need to sell their tech, issue with PC is you cant sell someone an expensive GPU and monitor to get all your features. That works bit better in a laptop space or tablets but we'll get to that. Nvidia really need to remove the software implementation from the equation with a console you can say, these are the graphics setting you have locked to 60fps (though 120 is happening) that way RTX isnt optional its a standard feature.

AMD and Samsung have a partnership which will see Ray Tracing on tablets, Exynos laptops and maybe phones

Nvidia have an ARM laptop too but the issue there is not just the stiff competition but the way laptops are sold. You ever go into a shop and ask which laptop has the best graphics? I doubt many people do

First question is probably what does it weigh

[carmine frigate]

nah its prolly a really stupid question we cant even comprehend

[pearl elk]

Salesperson is gonna be like well we have these M1 Macs cuz they get more commission lol

You dont get that in the console space really, you ask for a PS5 you get one

[carmine frigate]

well these are weird times

https://tenor.com/view/restock-restocking-restocking-soon-sold-out-gif-16043190

[pearl elk]

Lol

Yeah get the M1 Mac instead

[carmine frigate]

dont you like phones?

it can also play fortnite

would you perhaps like to walk around your house with 6 facebook cameras strapped to your face?

[pearl elk]

I dont own a phone 😛

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h040CQFrmPQ

see this is cool but what about all the physics stuff Nvidia cards can do too

[carmine frigate]

I really loved how ppl just made up stuff about RTX out of the blue

AI in games gunna be so much better now with AI cores