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median wraith
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thats so pre 2020

fathom wadi
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Honestly I've not checked it out yet but knowing how large crowd simulations work then I'm interested to see how it optimises the workflow

cursive crypt
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There was a MP asset which claimed like 1000000000000 NPCs or so

pearl elk
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You can do more if your NPCs are Niagara cubes

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but what really is a NPC ๐Ÿค”

median wraith
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marketplace assets man

cursive crypt
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In that case they were skelmeshes. Think most of the authors products were kinda advertising some big numbers.

pearl elk
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kajillion NPCs

cursive crypt
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Nah, that's Marc's people. I was talking about Epic's marketplace.

normal prism
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Marc's people? ๐Ÿค”

fathom wadi
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you can do a lot if you mix and match techniques from niagara particles to vertex animated meshes to imposters and flat LODs. But it's that varied workflow where re-editing can cost you a lot of time

normal prism
fathom wadi
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Perhaps Dean. I was in contact with someone on LinkedIn though

median wraith
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"On my system with an AMD 2700X processor, I achieved 200000+ pawns at 120+FPS."

normal prism
median wraith
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๐Ÿค–

fathom wadi
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yeah but if it's good, it probably warrants it for a month or two here and there. Especially in the VFX world where everyone is spending stupid money right now

normal prism
quasi mantle
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I'd rather making my own crowd solution than going for the Atom.

solid aurora
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if it is any good

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and useable by VFX

normal prism
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Like, there's literally no license to spot there for us

pearl elk
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I like to chop people up into 1000ths too

solid aurora
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bet about Epic buying it and integrating to engine : >

quasi mantle
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Making my own crowd solution and make it free open source.

fathom wadi
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@normal prism I can see it on my screen

zinc matrix
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Aren't they integrating georeferencing in 4.27?

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What's the deal with 4.27 anyway lol

fathom wadi
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there is no deal. its free ๐Ÿ˜„

normal prism
quasi mantle
cursive crypt
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I think GlassBeaver over #cpp is doing now some instancing of skelmeshes (since ages), numbers will be about "a lot".

normal prism
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75/year for a one person team doesn't seem so bad

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This was the thing that concerned me last time I think, the moment you have more than 1 person...

solid aurora
cursive crypt
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They need to make discounts for old people. Over 67y say.

solid aurora
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there is nothing particulary new, just bunch of fixes and enhancment for virtual production

median wraith
pearl elk
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4.27 EOL release

quasi mantle
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What if 4.28 is actually 5.0 all along?

normal prism
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No, actually @fathom wadi

Can only be used by solo developers/artists
The way I read this, you can't do the 75/year if you're actually working on a game you want to sell. As then you have a company/studio for that, right? Idk, it's confusing
Or like, how does that work? The moment your team grows it isn't valid anymore?

pearl elk
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Epic should release 4.97 so they have a few versions to polish up for a 5.0 ๐Ÿ˜›

cursive crypt
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Joke on you when 4.101

fathom wadi
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Well for now I'm just using it with a PLE but like I say, if anyone is getting some of that silly VFX/VP money that's being burned on everyone setting up new LED stages, it might be useful ๐Ÿ™‚

zinc matrix
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What if 4.27 is just the final most refined iteration of ue4, but everyone neglects it for ue5ue5

cursive crypt
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Watch the hype ๐Ÿ˜‰

zinc matrix
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Not that it would

quasi mantle
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I'll just wait they fix weird malloc with Control Rig in 4.27

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That weird malloc stalled me for quite a bit.

fathom wadi
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I can't wait for Day 1 of UE5 when people spam the chat channels with "Hows I doings Lumens pl0x?"

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@quasi mantleControl Rig has a life of it's own when it comes to crashes ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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cant wait for the roman numerals version numbering UE V.IX

zinc matrix
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Ah yes

quasi mantle
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Control Rig seemed too good to be true so they nerfed it with weird malloc lol

fathom wadi
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Not sure if you tried it out last year but holy moly. You had to have autosave set to 5 seconds in case editing controls crashed the editor

quasi mantle
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Didn't tested it in 4.24, I didn't know it existed back then

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By the time 4.25 released, Control Rig finally touted as a thing, but still marked experimental, and I skipped 4.25 anyway, so fast forward to 4.26

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Also, Control Rig is a plugin, right? Theoretically, that should allow me to bring whatever fixes in the 4.27 tree to 4.26

fathom wadi
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yep

carmine frigate
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also it wil prolly break ur rigs ๐Ÿ˜›

quasi mantle
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It's in beta form, so I don't epect drastic changes.

carmine frigate
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its experimental so it wil prolly break stuff on update

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.24 and .25 rigs aare not compatible

fathom wadi
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its experimental but its better than it was. So likely its gonna fix more than it breaks ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
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yea but u prolly need to redo the rigs u have

fathom wadi
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you can always regenerate the rig and copy over the unit nodes

carmine frigate
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yup that prolly has to be done

fathom wadi
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dunno why I call them unit nodes. They are Units. The nodes are superfluous. But I can't help it. They are NODES dammit !

carmine frigate
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a lot of nodes wil prolly be similar

quasi mantle
light spruce
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Units are measurements. Nodes are ... well who knows what nodes are... and don't control points for splines also get referred to as control nodes in some applications?

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(I could be on drugs)

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((I'm always on drugs))

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(((IN STEREO)))

cursive crypt
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Lisp

light spruce
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Hey, my speech is excellent

ivory lodge
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@cursive crypt What about lisp? Are we using lisp? Are rewriting unreal in lisp?

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I partake in writing things in Lisp.

cursive crypt
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Chill, lol

quasi mantle
fathom wadi
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ political on Twitter ! You are brave ๐Ÿ˜„

quasi mantle
ivory lodge
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WTF is gender politics?

fathom wadi
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my ban came from someone calling Three Days in Fallujah a "documentary". Because Fallujah was dynamically generated apparently :/

pearl elk
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if that game is realistic I wonder how people feel about those E for Everyone gambling simulators

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oh right those are fine, cuz no ones feelings get hurt

fathom wadi
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yeah I have agreat clip of Forza racing with a giant slot machine function

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it tickled me

pearl elk
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its crazy that everyone is like omg Fallujah in the title it has to be US Army recruitment tool

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like CoD, Medal of Honor, etc etc etc aint

quasi mantle
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It's more of a blatant propaganda as opposed to recruitment tool

pearl elk
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yeah well the US didnt single handedly win WW2

fathom wadi
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gamification of a war crime was my argument. But it is what it is. That story was horrific.

ivory lodge
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Most games glorify the US military. I've never seen one where you have to mow down civilians in a rice patty or call an air strike on a dangerous daycare center.

quasi mantle
pearl elk
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T for tiddies?

fathom wadi
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@ivory lodge COD had a level where you mowed down civvies in an airport. But they removed it because it was offensive

ivory lodge
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Tendies.

quasi mantle
ivory lodge
quasi mantle
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Not omitted entirely per se

ivory lodge
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It's called "No Russian"

pearl elk
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I like how people talk about war crimes in games like they are actual war crimes while actual war criminals go unpunished cuz people are busy bitching about war crimes in games shrugs

fathom wadi
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not sure I wouldn't play that trash tbh. It might look nice but meh. War games lost their appeal to me after watching Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria and more live on tv

ivory lodge
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It's called growing up. And we can never do it while thinking we will someday be the biggest badass in the world.

quasi mantle
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It's better to commit "war crimes" on them demons, hell priests, and the Maykrs though

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If I want to commit genocide, I'd rather go UV Max run in Doom levels.

pearl elk
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we should be promoting letting all those little Hitlers go nuts in the virtual world right, least they wont start WW3

ivory lodge
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@pearl elk There is some logic behind that.

fathom wadi
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War Games. It's rarely a game.

quasi mantle
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And they say Doom is bad because of killing demons to save humanity. Pffft.

ivory lodge
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War is just killing enough people that one side can't fight anymore.

pearl elk
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Heavy Metal music is the path to the Devil son

ivory lodge
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And games make up forget that.

carmine frigate
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hmm mystery free game in 15 min ๐Ÿ˜›

quasi mantle
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Anyway, it's almost late night here in the archipelago.
Gotta sleep

pearl elk
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so is wearing a skirt that comes above your knees

fathom wadi
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"War is a racket" - General Smedley-Butler

ivory lodge
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@carmine frigate A free game and a reason to change the topic? Tell me MORE!

carmine frigate
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not much i can tell about it, its a mystery

ivory lodge
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@fathom wadi YES. Also watch wardogs.

fathom wadi
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plot twist. The game is "The Killing Game Show" reboot

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I've seen war dogs. Kinda funny

pearl elk
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its gonna be UT3 ๐Ÿ˜›

ivory lodge
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Let's talk about Lisp some more. That was fun.

fathom wadi
pearl elk
ivory lodge
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I want a parody game: Call of the Dootie: Nature's Wrath...

soft night
fathom wadi
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I'd be interested in making a war game about the First Earth Battalion. I think that would be so satirically amusing it would become an anti-war game.

primal spoke
fathom wadi
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Rated Ouch for The Losing Side.

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Call of Doody : Black Plops.
"Sarge what have you been eating?"
"I dunno but I need you to aquire seventeen rolls of toilet paper and some air freshener"

ivory lodge
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You've unlocked Mr. Hanky!

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Ok...I'm hungry but nothing sounds good...

fathom wadi
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may I suggest burritos?

ivory lodge
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Hmmm... I wonder if there is a pub that has good food nearby...

fathom wadi
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If I had a bar I'd call it The Node and Plugin. When you first enter the building, there are no seats. Then I sell you a chair plugin from my pub-based marketplace. All drinks are instanced and the food is procedurally generated.

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By the end of the night, everyone gets rendered.

primal spoke
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๐Ÿคฃ

deep glen
median wraith
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@pearl elk turns out the 970GTX runs the bullet train demo at 72FPS

pearl elk
fathom wadi
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NBA2K1 as a free game is an insult to free games. Not to sound ungrateful, because I won't download it, but holy moly that missed the mark ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
deep glen
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well, one advantage is more fail videos of nba2k1 bugs

fathom wadi
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true ๐Ÿ˜„ I want to see the slot machine wins. Saves me some wallet abuse ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
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well I don't see this techs right now killing anything related the old standard gaming

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1:30min of play 50% of battery

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given the quality and other things well

light spruce
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Time travel: Can we all agree that the Unreal logo really needed to have changed like.. at least 15 years ago?

normal prism
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The current one? What's wrong with it? ๐Ÿค”

light spruce
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Because, from a branding perspective, it looks embarrassingly like some edgy late 90's shit you'd see drawn on the book cover for a high school biology class

fathom wadi
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The Mona Lisa needs updating too. Sick of that old hat enigmatic smile.

pearl elk
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I bet if you showed the U without the Unreal Engine underneath most people wouldnt even associate the two off the top of their heads anymore tbh

light spruce
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I've personally never been a fan of the Mona Lisa from an aesthetic perspective. I recognize its importance and value historically; it is not something I would hang on my wall.

pearl elk
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Mona Lisa has about as much to do with cutting edge graphics technology than a U with a ring around it ๐Ÿ˜›

light spruce
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I don't know what a modern Unreal Engine logo should look like.. I just know that one looks super out of place at this point

pearl elk
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I feel like they shoulda gone with a V, move onto other cooler letters of the alphabet

fathom wadi
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lol

pearl elk
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then we can get to XE, which everyone knows is the fastest letters

fathom wadi
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Vunreal Engine

light spruce
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Sir, I feel as though you are taking the piss, as it were, whereas I was expressing a genuine opinion of the current state of branding affairs.

pearl elk
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thing is the logo barely stands on its own anymore, its always supported by Unreal Engine text

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people dont even call it U, they call it UE4

light spruce
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True.

pearl elk
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if Im honest I dont like any iteration of the Unreal U with a ring around it

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it looks better as a 3d logo

fathom wadi
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I look at the logo and think "who me?"

pearl elk
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which you know makes sense for a 3d engine right

light spruce
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Isn't Unity's the ... cube angle with the outlines that don't make sense?

pearl elk
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basic monochrome branding is better for megacorp letter heads

light spruce
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... fuck. I forgot my tablet driver wasn't running

pearl elk
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nice and cheap to print a zillion pens with logos on em

light spruce
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I WAS GOING TO FIX IT IN TWO SECONDS

pearl elk
light spruce
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restart krita ... load my base document ... load my "Mr. Dogshit" layout

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MODERN

fluid bloom
light spruce
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Though I honestly kinda like the derpy ue face

pearl elk
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see its even got some v coin at the bottom

light spruce
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I think we did it

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how do we get paid?

fluid bloom
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apply for mega grants

pearl elk
cursive crypt
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F

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A running contest?

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lol

pearl elk
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gotta pay those respects

light spruce
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I don't know if you forgot already

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Side note, I'm just drawing on my mask layers that I use for outline stuff or markers or whatever.. I'm not actually like "shit yeah, check this SWAT color palette"

pearl elk
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maybe it should be like a keyboard key with F on it instead

light spruce
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It should look like a console controller button

ivory lodge
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So that's how you create a new graph.

light spruce
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So someone is trying to find a thing that doesn't exist

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People have done all these xbox controller mods where they replace buttons with shell casings... surely someone has put an F button on one

pearl elk
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what if... the F was a key ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

light spruce
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you fuck

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I was about to draw a dumb skeleton key

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get out

fathom wadi
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He was orthogonal

solid aurora
fathom wadi
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

light spruce
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Pretend I could find a Community Beastmaster gif

solid aurora
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bugs just got more advanced

fluid bloom
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what bug is that?

solid aurora
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i just clicked randomly

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๐Ÿ˜„

solid aurora
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seems like most of them just moved on

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higher

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;d

light spruce
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given the Ghostbusters thing... I know feel obligated

pearl elk
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thats the wrong logo

fluid bloom
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I wonder if the fix in 5.0 is just "we removed lightmaps"

solid aurora
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nah

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lightmaps are still in

light spruce
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Life changinge

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so changing that changing now has an e on it

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That video is the only reason I've ever wished I had a clipboard application

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And, if you think I'm not also watching it right now and just vomiting MLP everywhere... you are incorrect.

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(this is how I know the drugs just kicked in)

solid aurora
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btw

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there is no stream today ?

fathom wadi
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aww hope so

light spruce
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I either ruined the chat or made everything better.

fathom wadi
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that Wrench stream last week was great

light spruce
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a capital Wrench just makes me think of the Watch underscore Dogs 2 character

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So, yes. Ruined chat. There is no software I cannot crash. There is nothing I cannot kill. There is no situation I cannot make worse.

ivory lodge
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@light spruce Can you call my exwife?

light spruce
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Call her what?

mossy nexus
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What rhymes with orange....

fathom wadi
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Trump

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A rapper with a fruity beverage

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Hair fringe

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hairy mi.... no wait.

mossy nexus
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The correct answer is : No it doesn't. ๐Ÿ˜„

fathom wadi
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No it doesn't? That sounds nothing like Orange.

mossy nexus
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Correct

fathom wadi
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Sporange

dark chasm
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Are there any people who have studied or are studying at DAE (Digital Arts and Entertainment in Belgium other name is Howest)?

bronze axle
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So fresh. โœจ

light spruce
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"So fresh and so clean"

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One might refer to that as "crispy"

fathom wadi
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Not to be picky, but the Manny model needs the new Unreal logo updating on it's chest. I can do it for a nominal fee and credit as an Epic employee thanks gg ๐Ÿ™‚

bronze axle
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Good catch, but we're probably just going to wait until whatever new Manny comes with UE5 to update it.

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Meanwhile, if you guys have ideas for custom emoji, do let us know in #server-feedback.

cursive crypt
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:thinking_manny:

fathom wadi
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make a manny metahuman.

cursive crypt
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It's not the same.

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Metamanny.

light spruce
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I want him to be Manno instead

fathom wadi
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lol I tried to post an image and it woudln't let me because it was deemed explicit but it's not ๐Ÿ˜„

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I dont think discord likes Manny's man boobs

mossy nexus
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Metaman. MMO's greatest hero!

fathom wadi
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you will have to imagine the plastic nipples of course

ivory lodge
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The greatest MMO hero is Florida Man.

light spruce
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I glanced at that and was like "It's Norman Re--oh :("

carmine frigate
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captain hero is the best ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
light spruce
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I feel like the T is just tracing out a path of the vas defrens and the urethra

carmine frigate
fathom wadi
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hmm Metahuman is out of the "queue period". Which I thought was fine anyway as you could trot out 3 or 4 metahumans in an hour anyway. But it's nice to know the balance has been measured ๐Ÿ™‚

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ok I have to laugh. I ran a second appeal against my Twitter ban. What about my opinion of people who call the gamification of a war crime, a "documentary" ? Am I not allowed a safe space?

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I shouldn't care but I miss my old network of friends that I only knew through twitter. There isn't much of a way to talk to them otherwise.

carmine frigate
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create ur own msg thing and call it shitter

fathom wadi
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If I was to make my own service, it would probably be reported as a right wing nazi outlet because I started it after getting banned on Twitter.

carmine frigate
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so people can send sheets

fathom wadi
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worst person on Twitter apparently. Damn those human rights supporters.

light spruce
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Let me tell you something that's rough

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When you support human rights and carry a firearms and people then completely ignore anything aside from the gun part.

fathom wadi
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I tried to deactivate the account and it won't even let me.

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that is some data protection violation right there.

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actually a legit data protection crime to refuse access to your own data. It won't even let me download the data.

carmine frigate
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well if some1 is walking down the street here with a gun... yea thats prolly gunna get him arrested

fluid bloom
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aww yeahh the best action movie ever is on tv

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Commando

fathom wadi
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no chance

carmine frigate
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yea commando is up there

light spruce
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I don't really walk down streets here. It'd be a long walk to get anywhere.

carmine frigate
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yea, i dont have to worry about wild moose or deers attacking me here tho

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so i dont need a gun

light spruce
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No moose here... but there definitely is wildlife

ivory lodge
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You never know who might be a secret moose.

fluid bloom
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I don't even remember the last time I saw one

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most vivid memory is when I was a kid and there was a moose and its calf standing on top of our earth cellar

carmine frigate
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mayB they evolved into somekind of chameleon tech

light spruce
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I'm not far enough north for moose. I don't know how I've managed to not hit at least two deer simultaneously in the driveway in the 15 years I've been here.

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I've come within less than a meter of hitting quite a few

fathom wadi
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The last moose I hit unfriended me on Facebook after I didn't want to continue the f-buddy relationship we had ๐Ÿ˜„

light spruce
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I've had to be both feet in to avoid hitting one, then downshift, wide open throttle to keep one from running directly into the side of my car immediately afterward.

carmine frigate
light spruce
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Yeah, I don't usually have to deal with Springboks. Wrong continent.

torpid star
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so one of the biggest perf costs is occlusion culling since it's still O(n) for every object

fluid bloom
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why would it be O(n) ๐Ÿค”

torpid star
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why wouldn't it? it checks the bounds for every object

fluid bloom
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what if you put the bounds into an octree and do a coarse pre-filter using that?

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or do some sort of binary space partitioning

torpid star
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I was thinking why not use a fixed cost occlusion algo like by segmenting the scene as voxels or like u suggested octrees

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the fixed cost would come from having a predefined set of voxels

median wraith
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Look at the mobile VR version of this thing

regal pecan
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There is a precomputed visibility option for occlusion culling which could be similar to an octree, but that's about it.

median wraith
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does someone have this Retro Graphics from marketplace ?

soft night
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if you want to go dark side? ๐Ÿ”ฅ https://youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6KnFIIa4I

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normal prism
fathom wadi
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they will remove it if its associated with me at all

normal prism
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For that they would need to know that ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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yeah and how would anyone else know it's me? :/ I use my real name for work purposes

normal prism
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If it's just to talk to friends, could do that through an alias

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You'd have to get them to follow back for DMs, that'd be the tricky part

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Kinda sucks that you lost those contacts ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fathom wadi
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indeed. Plus I'd probably just get banned again. My use of metaphors can get out of hand apparently.

ivory lodge
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@fathom wadiLike babies on a walrus.

broken sigil
ivory lodge
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I just went through and I think I have all my controls mapped to the controller. There is some weird stuff like B being block AND dodge and using both triggers to shoot (One aims guns the other magic.) Does that sound plausible?

soft night
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@broken sigil it was nervous when they started to say what 10 countries go to final

broken sigil
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yeah that's why I like it lol

soft night
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other was got mentioned to owhat vibes people got from it too

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limp bizkit vibes

median wraith
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Is there some function to edit in world actors vertex colors?

stoic turtle
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Is this site app revenues for real?

quasi mantle
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I think the new logo is now growing up on me

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Looking at it more and felt "yeah, this is okay"

real palm
stoic turtle
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Idk looks legit, It says clash of clan raised 24m$

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The site?

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Oh lol

broken sigil
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never heard of Fivus? the man, the legend?

spare glade
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Fivus is love

quasi mantle
ivory lodge
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I think I've implemented my input pipes in a night.

ivory lodge
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Actually it wasn't bad.

teal geode
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hey guys how do you say
the things you like
but in a word?
like spanish has "gustos"

foggy path
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looks like "gustos" just translates to "pleasures"

pearl elk
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expensive

foggy path
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you could also just say "likes" I guess

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keep in mind that when going between languages, there is not always an exact matching phrase/word for something

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so while one language might have an expression for a thing that's just one word, another language might need more than one word for it

teal geode
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yea, that messes up my essay

teal geode
foggy path
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but yeah if it's something like "these are the things I enjoy", you could say "these are my likes" but I don't really know if it sounds very good

quasi mantle
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Kidding.

It could be "favourites"

foggy path
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yeah favorites is a good one too

quasi mantle
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(or favorite if you prefer American spelling)

teal geode
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gonna try that

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thanks

light spruce
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banned

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It's visually upsetting

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Like whatever has to be happening inside of Gwyneth Paltrow's brain

pearl elk
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Goop

teal geode
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well, the more you know

light spruce
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I wish I would either have a migraine or not... the indecision is killing me

teal geode
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?

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a pan should do the jov

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job*

pearl elk
teal geode
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well it can be food taste

light spruce
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I did that earlier

teal geode
pearl elk
#

we use taste not just for foods

light spruce
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I would call that something that's one of those not directly translatable things

teal geode
#

havent herd taste outside that, but thats just me

light spruce
#

your taste in music

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clothes... games.. whatever

teal geode
#

ooh

light spruce
#

Yeah. But we wouldn't say, "My likings in music are limited to 1950s cellar recordings on vinyl"

quasi mantle
#

Taste is more of preference than liking

pearl elk
#

fetish lol

light spruce
#

@zinc matrix like on the inside of your eyelid or just the edge?

quasi mantle
pearl elk
quasi mantle
light spruce
#

Ah. Yeah. Those are annoying as fuck.

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Not as bad as scratching your cornea at least

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Did that bad enough one time that I had to have my eye taped up for a couple of days. It was a lot harder to play Destiny with one eye than I thought it would be.

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(I also can't tell the difference between high school anime girls and boys)

pearl elk
#

Im not sure you need to tell the difference

light spruce
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I mean, I don't. I like my women to be at least as three dimensional as 90s budget CG

pearl elk
#

three dimensional women, what sorcery is this

quasi mantle
quasi mantle
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Make your own w~~/a/~~ifu with MetaHuman and AI based response system

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(I would definitely do that if I'm still single in my 35s)

light spruce
#

35s is an oddly narrow time band

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and why am I always tired when I get out of the shower?

pearl elk
#

try cold water

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I usually have to take a dump, then I have to shower again

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๐Ÿ˜…

tulip orbit
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toss a pile of legos right outside the shower, they'll wake you up

light spruce
#

that is apparently a netflix category

quasi mantle
#

Not gonna lie
I sometimes think soap opera as the adult opera that you wank on.

Because soap can be used for that.

light spruce
#

LPT: Don't wank with soap

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but ffs, I swear it doesn't matter what time of day it is.. how much sleep I've had... I get out of the shower, get dressed... and then immediately want to throw myself on my bed and die

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Wow

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I never thought I'd run across an accidental soap opera exposure that topped the one I had waiting for an oil change

pearl elk
#

do they call them soap operas cuz Id rather eat a bar of soap

light spruce
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Two teenage women are sitting on the bed.. one's upset about something... the other is being consoling... and then her dad comes in and says to his daughter, "You're taking advantage of her feelings!" and to the other one, "My daughter's a lesbian!"

quasi mantle
#

Here, local soap opera is just cashing in whatever stale meme is trending.

light spruce
#

I was like.. man.. Grandma's "stories" sure have changed.

pearl elk
#

someone else bursts in...."My Sons a lesbian!" dramatic looks

quasi mantle
#

Also sometimes mocking on one profession or hobby

light spruce
#

I mean, who can tell one from the next, really

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(other than someone's grandmother)

quasi mantle
#

I'm not surprised if they make one called "My Husband Is A Game Developer", where the wife stops his husband from working on a mobile game, and achieve world peace or something

quasi mantle
light spruce
#

except that it's like that episode of X-Files where Mulder wishes for world peace and everyone on the planet is gone

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At least I think that was X-Files.. fuck if I can remember at this point

teal geode
light spruce
#

That is most often considered a derogatory term that you shouldn't use.

teal geode
#

ok a boy that looks like a girl

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what other word should be used?

quasi mantle
pearl elk
#

we could use more anime drug dealers tbh

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nothin to see here mr policey mans, Im just a cute girl with a backpack, no drugs to see here

quasi mantle
#

Side view, if you're not convinced

pearl elk
#

thats a boy, I can tell by the purple hair

light spruce
#

I'm a big fan of the backpack full of drugs in Altered Carbon

pearl elk
#

speaking of, the animated Altered Carbon is better than season 2 lol

quasi mantle
#

Also, the backstory for Makoto's tomboy demeanours is that her parents wanted to have a son, but ended up having a daughter instead. So they raised her like a boy until she decided to be more feminine and, by her parent's blessings, joined an idol agency.

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Although there's a running gag of which she also amassed a lot of fangirls outside of her control, so that's that.

pearl elk
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the word you were looking for is androgynous btw

quasi mantle
pearl elk
#

lol, I know it too

light spruce
#

I'd be hard pressed to find something you could have put in there that wouldn't have been a true statement with regards to Altered Carbon's second season

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well, maybe watching people die wouldn't be better

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but any actual entertainment media would have been

pearl elk
#

Anthony Mackie is pretty overrated on a whole tbh

light spruce
#

He wasn't the only problem.. not even sure if I'd say the main problem

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It's really hard to break down the issues in a pie chart on that one

pearl elk
#

least the other guy could act half decently as well as look good without a shirt on

light spruce
#

Joel Kinnaman killed it I think

pearl elk
#

when the Marvel movies are the pinnacle of your acting abilities that says alot ๐Ÿ˜›

light spruce
#

And also, yeah... I would murder an... alarming number of strangers to look that good

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And that's after he got the metal plate removed from his chest

pearl elk
#

it was the chemistry with Poe which helped too, the story of the second season was obviously alittle poor but the first one had some issues too

light spruce
#

Yeah, it wasn't perfect

pearl elk
#

suddenly he's this amazing military sleave, not sure that was a good idea

light spruce
#

It was kind of unnecessary, really

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I mean, he was already a badass

pearl elk
#

yeah he's the last envoy right, doesnt matter which sleave thats the whole point

light spruce
#

It's like saying, "You know... Superman really should get hard into BJJ and maybe some Kung Fu"

pearl elk
#

MMA Superman lol

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wait Kung Fu Superman... isnt that Neo

light spruce
#

I was good. I double-checked the rules before posting something NSFW as fuck.

pearl elk
#

your mother would be proud

light spruce
#

I don't think my mom would care

pearl elk
#

mine wouldnt either ๐Ÿ˜›

light spruce
#

The end of the clinic scene is on YouTube... which clearly shows what a badass he is. Also what I use to explain why someone should watch it

pearl elk
#

Cartman is having PTSD over that rule

light spruce
#

I mean, yeah, my mom wouldn't care... and I am my boss

pearl elk
#

not safe for other peoples work

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my work involves making R18+ games ๐Ÿ™‚

light spruce
#

Yeah, that's kinda the issue

bronze axle
#

It's of course meant as a general rule because of the large variety of people here.

light spruce
#

oh shit

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everyone look busy

bronze axle
#

lol

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This is the lounge.

pearl elk
#

bet youre thanking yourself for not posting it now ๐Ÿ˜›

bronze axle
#

I expect you to kick back with a cold drink.

bronze axle
#

Wow! Look at those graphs! Great work, Justin.

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I knew I could count on you.

light spruce
#

As you can see, we can expect these things to affect these other things.

bronze axle
#

Yes, I see. Fantastic.

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What about the ROI on that one project?

bronze axle
#

Can we circle back on the next steps for our current brand strategy and outreach opportunities?

light spruce
#

And there's a running graph of some things that show some numbers over historical time periods that we can use to project future growth

pearl elk
#

bitcoin dropped, Ive lost millions pulls hair out

light spruce
#

According to Brian Smith, MBA, the recommendations involve designating a corporate synergy center to coordinate communications between our different branches as we move to further vertically integrate

bronze axle
#

Yes, synergy. Very important. We need that to enhance our verticals and generate more leads next quarter.

light spruce
#

Also, our consultancy firm, International Global Worldwide has suggested we move to right-size our in-house public relations department and outsource work to an experienced firm fluent in current trends and guerilla social media marketing.

bronze axle
#

But hey, Susan Swell over at Digital Enterprises Limited told me that Brian Smith's recommendations rely on iterative approaches to corporate strategy that foster collaborative thinking to further the overall value proposition. We can't organically grow the holistic world view of disruptive innovation via workplace diversity and empowerment unless we leverage agile frameworks to provide a robust synopsis for high level overviews!

light spruce
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I give up.

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Not just because I'm pretty sure I developed a brain bleed

bronze axle
#

Great meeting, everyone.

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Let's go to the bar and discuss our next acquisition.

bronze axle
light spruce
#

I was despondently staring through one of my monitors imaging the horror of having to actually say any of those things.

bronze axle
#

That's pretty terrifying.

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Working at a company where those kinds of meetings actually happen sounds like a living nightmare.

light spruce
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I think you take the same approach my friend's father did to jury duty

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show up

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"I got the shits."

bronze axle
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lol

light spruce
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I feel like that part was missing from rands agenda detection

broken sigil
#

oh man that sounds annoying as all hell
fivus

bronze axle
pearl elk
#

I wonder how difficult it'll be to port projects to UE5

bronze axle
#

Supposedly not bad.

light spruce
#

The idea of having a daily meeting makes me wish I was dead

pearl elk
#

I kinda want it to be more difficult tbh because that means they would have fixed things ๐Ÿ˜›

bronze axle
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lol

pearl elk
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Not a problem until you find out the 30 plugins youre using dont compile with UE5 either

bronze axle
#

Yeah that's the biggest variable I think, plugins.

pearl elk
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but how else do you get power without plugging in

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wireless-ins?

zinc matrix
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End of 2021 huh?

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Fair enough

bronze axle
#

I've seen it. It's an unsubstantiated claim, so we have no way of knowing.

light spruce
#

I have no idea what a monday dot com is

zinc matrix
#

Well lucky you

light spruce
#

Then again I never check my mail either

pearl elk
#

E3 or GDC baby

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or both ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

zinc matrix
bronze axle
bronze axle
#

It looks like a pretty nice project management tool until you see the price. Holy shit.

light spruce
#

I got that PREMIUM

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Also.. I basically gave up trying to use YouTube

pearl elk
#

E3 is less than a month away

bronze axle
#

E3's relevance is also in question.

light spruce
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I got so tired of its circlejerk algorithm that I unsubscribed from everything and only go there if I'm looking for something absolutely specific

bronze axle
#

I took a different tac: I turned off my watch history.

pearl elk
#

its not so much the event but the media

light spruce
#

Well it obviously didn't seem to give a shit if it knew I watched it or not.. because it would suggest shit I watched three days ago

bronze axle
#

My homepage is YouTube barfing at me, but I just go to my subscriptions and Watch Later list, and it's fine.

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Yeah YouTube likes to say "Watch it again" a lot on the PS4 app.

pearl elk
#

all the gaming news media buzz around these things cuz they can get news from a number of different big companies rather than having to chase them round to all their own events

bronze axle
pearl elk
#

well thats like 2 days before E3 so same same to me

bronze axle
#

Ah.

light spruce
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I feel like it's well past E3's time to be taken out behind the wood shop

pearl elk
#

we have a whole games event here in Aus which PAX is just a part of it. I think most are the same, huge events made up of lots of bits

zinc matrix
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I forgot about PAX

light spruce
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The big players don't even need it... and the smaller people still get overlooked

pearl elk
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its still like that even if you had an event just for Indies, you'd get the well known buzzers taking all the spotlight

zinc matrix
#

it's almost as if the indie category can be split in two, Big indie, and small indie

pearl elk
#

have you ever seen a reaction like Diablo Immortal or Artifact at E3

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welp, maybe theres a reason for that ๐Ÿ˜›

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hype feeds hype, its a train with many carriages

zinc matrix
#

What even defines an indie game anyway?

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Obviously overall size of the dev team

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But where is the line drawn?

pearl elk
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ofcoarse console manufacturers actually have to make games for their platforms to announce at E3.... that helps

light spruce
#

You know... Artifact could have been an interesting game... if it was interested in being a game instead of an artificial revenue stream

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man.. I've never been so depressed unpacking a shipment of undergarments before

pearl elk
#

these days I feel like its more like "heres another look at the game we've been teasing for ages" rather than "boom mic drop, heres it is"

broken sigil
pearl elk
#

least Cyberpunks marketing wasnt as bad as those mobile games which have amazing live action and rendered stuff and never show the game apart from 2 tiny screen shots at the end

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We complain about Anthem being a fake game demo but Mobile, its okay mate... money

#

I bet those mobile game factories are crunching harder than a US breakfast cereal

light spruce
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Fucking anthem

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The Cataclysm thing or whatever looked really cool... you compare that to what they put in the game... Jesus

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Well, at least my $37 shirt I got with those undergarments as comfy as hell so that takes the edge off the depression a bit

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it's total dogshit art direction shift too

bronze axle
# zinc matrix What even defines an indie game anyway?

It used to be simple: indie meant "independent" quite literally, as in you didn't depend on a publisher or similar third party to fund, develop, and publish your game. Now there are "indie" publishers, so all that is thrown out the window.

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These days "indie" is more descriptive of a game's general vibe and price point.

light spruce
#

And let's not forget whatever the hell you'd call "having a publisher to back you as long as you hit some kickstarter goal"

bronze axle
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Right?

zinc matrix
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Yeah, sort of like "Hey, come play our hipster game instead of another AAA game"

bronze axle
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It's a confusing mess at this point.

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I don't even bother telling people I'm making an "indie game" these days. I'm just making a game.

zinc matrix
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Yeah like you said, its more of a description of the general vibe and quality

light spruce
#

It does kinda seem like that... "Big budget LCD thing." "Weird shit that most people won't care about"

bronze axle
#

It's not a useful term anymore unless you're a YouTube entertainer or something. There it still has value because if you say "I play indie games" it sets a pretty clear expectation for the audience.

pearl elk
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I think indie is still a good descriptor for how much creative freedom you have

bronze axle
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It can be, yes.

zinc matrix
#

Some might think that indie means the devs are more "human"

bronze axle
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Right. There's more of a human touch, a smaller team, a more "personal" experience.

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As opposed to a multi-million-dollar corporate product.

pearl elk
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this day and age of professional indies though its not the same as the garage band era

bronze axle
#

For sure. Now there are plenty of mid-sized indie studios.

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Teams of 10-30 people with multiple games under their belts.

broken sigil
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It's funny, these days I enjoy playing indie games more than big budget AAA
Good indie games a trying something new, you will rarely see some interesting idea or concept appear in AAA

bronze axle
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I don't play many AAA games either. I do, but they are in the minority.

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There's so few of them that interest me.

pearl elk
#

like AAA devs leaving to form their own studios and getting funding independently, those are what Id consider professional indies. Or indies who care very much about marketing image in a similar way to a AAA studio

broken sigil
#

RE 8 is an exception, I like that one a lot

bronze axle
#

I'm interested in playing RE8, too.

light spruce
#

I've largely been burned out on games at this point

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Just not nearly as much I really care about

pearl elk
#

I wish I had more time to play the bloody things ๐Ÿ˜›

light spruce
#

The problem with AAA devs going off to their own studios... they take their same broken-ass work experience with them

broken sigil
#

I need to take a break from competitive shooters lol
Looking for some interesting story driven/exploration game to relax my nerves ๐Ÿ˜†

Something like Arise or Outer wilds

pearl elk
#

try Carrion hehe

bronze axle
#

I play a lot of short horror games these days.

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And I play BDO.

light spruce
#

I picked up Outer Wilds... it'll probably sit in the unplayed category until I forget it exists

broken sigil
broken sigil
quasi mantle
#

mmm yes, B72

broken sigil
#

Subnautica below zero released the other day pretty sure, might give it a try

light spruce
#

I really liked Subnautica

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Except for the part where you don't realize until far too late that you really just don't need more than one base somewhere

broken sigil
#

Outer wilds is one of those games that tells you nothing, you are most of it clueless as to what is going on and as you explore and things start to click you get one of those "Oh Shi*!" moments ๐Ÿ˜…

quasi mantle
# quasi mantle mmm yes, B72

Also I think I need to come up with a better camera world position processing for the outline material ๐Ÿค”

broken sigil
#

Some puzzles are pretty damn difficult tho

light spruce
#

For better and worse, puzzles in games just don't work super well at this point.

#

They're just wiki difficulty now

pearl elk
#

Ziggurat 2 baby

light spruce
#

I like the more dynamic problem solving... like XCOM "how do I kill absolutely everyone on this turn?"

broken sigil
#

And what's cool is if you know what's going on, the story behind everything, nothing is stopping you from finishing it in the first 10 minutes of playing
I just find that very intriguing, the solution to beating the game is staring right at you the whole time

bronze axle
#

The last game I played that made me feel that way was The Witness.

#

What a great game.

broken sigil
#

Oh I never got around to playing it
Looks interesting tho
Should probably be on my list to play

bronze axle
#

It's fantastic.

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And it's better the less you know going in.

broken sigil
#

I know nothing so that's good ๐Ÿ˜†

light spruce
#

I really want to jump in and say <terrible game here> is fantastic

bronze axle
#

Then it will blow you rmind.

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Yes.

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I think it's his best work.

light spruce
#

So... it will Jonathan Blow your mind

#

Speaking of people who I've vaguely heard of

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Did Spy Party ever become like a real game?

#

Because the concept sounded rather interesting when I first heard about it when I had an Atari 800

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โ˜ ๏ธ slap that on my internet plane... another successful chat kill

quasi mantle
#

City pop music always entertain me, even in game dev-ing

light spruce
#

what is ...city pop music?

quasi mantle
#

Eastern Asian 80s pop music.
Well known because of its vibe and jazzy musical compositions, evoking false nostalgia among the recent youngins

light spruce
#

Yep. Still drawing a blank.

cursive crypt
#

Not familiar with Eastern pop, but around pop is cringe or just annoying (personal opinion).

thin glacier
tough bridge
#

@small summit what kinda games you interested in making?

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@proven swift

Out of curiosity what led you to Unreal for AI/machine learning?

Isn't that largely a Python field?

small summit
#

About hell

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Got an idea for a game where you play as a demon trying to overthrow heaven for their obscene laws and unjust treatment of the people of hell

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Also as a sort of challenge, I wanna try to make it with zero guns

tough bridge
#

A shooter without, guns? But projectile weapons of other kinds? Like magic and such?

quasi mantle
tough bridge
quasi mantle
#

Kinda close to Amid Evil to me

tough bridge
#

Or do you mean like Doom/Blood?

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But third person

quasi mantle
#

Doom/Heretic/Hexen/Blood/Dusk/Amid Evil combat, but third person

tough bridge
#

Gotcha

tough bridge
small summit
#

More hack n slash maybe

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And stealth

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Ill be drawing inspiration from a ton of games

tough bridge
#

Have you made a game before?

small summit
#

Horizon zero dawn, risk of rain 2, doom eternal to name a few

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Nope

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I made a cube move in unity and that's legit all my coding experience

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I'm pretty good at blender though

tough bridge
#

I totally recommend that you focus on one specific part of the game you want to work and just iterate it over and over until it feels good :)

small summit
#

That will save me a ton of time with making models

tough bridge
#

I've made a few small things

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And often times the best ones were accidental side effects of dialing in one mechanic until it was fun.

small summit
#

I wanna do some small projects getting to know unity and learning how to make certain mechanics feel good and polished

tough bridge
#

Oh you're gonna be working in Unity?

small summit
#

Hell no

tough bridge
#

Then you meant Unreal? Lol

small summit
#

Nah, I initially wanted to learn unity, then unreal but I said f*** it, take off the training wheels and put me on the motorcycle

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It's nice actually having starter content

tough bridge
#

Almost all of my experience is in Unity.

#

And I hate Unity rn

#

So

light spruce
#

Re: hell fighting heaven, that's basically the "plot" of Monster Train, a deck builder type of thing similar to Slay the Spire

small summit
#

It's less hell vs heaven, and more heaven has hell under it's thumb, go kill god

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Basically

light spruce
#

I'm a fountain of unhelpful information. Come to me for all your wikipedia light needs

tough bridge
#

Imagine getting to God and he's just never noticed you as you're approaching heaven all this time and then he just pops you out of existence with a flick of his finger.

light spruce
#

I was having to deal with some unity stuff while doing RoR2 modding for some prototyping of crap

small summit
#

In this, god made a sort of "event" where demons can participate for the chance to be let into heaven, and the main character is using that as a way to get to god and overthrow heaven

#

Just a rough draft rn

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You explore the nine rings of hell, and each has its own monarch, they each have their own trial which is a big boss and when you beat all nine you get to go to heaven

light spruce
#

!8ball more gin?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@light spruce, :8ball: It is certain.

light spruce
#

!8ball what about amphetamines?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@light spruce, :8ball: Ask again later.

light spruce
#

You're a dick, Manny. A super dick.

small summit
#

(also, when you get to one of the later rings, you get to visit your gf and bring her a gift)

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Her name is Sapphica

tough bridge
#

I want the Sloth challenge to be secretly passable by never moving.

small summit
#

Lol I haven't even thought of the main character's name, but I've already thought of her gf's name

light spruce
#

<insert your own bass guitar riff here>

small summit
#

That reminds me

#

I wanna get an electric guitar soon and make the music myself

light spruce
#

Does it remind you that you need a sick bass guitar riff?

#

close enough

#

I could use a win here

cursive crypt
#

ooh, the ue website started to change, smelling new stuff incoming.

small summit
#

This game is gonna be super inclusive

#

Because being anything but straight is a sin and blah blah blah

light spruce
#

Suggestion: Main character, black trans man dwarf in a wheel chair

small summit
#

Nah she gonna be a chick

#

Possibly transfem

#

But that might be making a borderline mini me

light spruce
#

Technically what my first Cyberpunk 2077 character was

tough bridge
light spruce
#

I never did decide on whether it was a good or bad thing that it was completely irrelevant

small summit
#

Fr tho, trans people get like zero representation in media

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And when they do, it's usually pretty bad and inaccurate

quasi mantle
light spruce
#

I wouldn't say zero... but... it's fairly low, yeah

tough bridge
#

insensitive comment from a place of privilege

small summit
#

Lmao

quasi mantle
#

Honestly I don't care about gender representation. I follow Japanese philosophy of making characters - create them for the sake of it.

light spruce
#

And I know a lot less about the trans men side of things because... I'm attracted to women.

small summit
#

"and today, we've brought together this diverse panel of old, white, straight men to talk about LGBT issues"

quasi mantle
#

Although admittedly my game having female lead because of me having a wild idea due to many Isekai themed media mostly have male lead, and cardboard cutout female harem.

small summit
tough bridge
quasi mantle
#

My goal with PAST FUTURE is to have an Isekai anime story where the lead character is female, and you can't have harem relationship.

Thus, I already decided to omit dating mechanics since conceptual design.

light spruce
#

I have no problem admitting that I learned a lot because I went, "Wait.. why does this super hot chick have a penis?" And so I did the research. I was aware of intersex conditions from psychology courses, but I didn't know anything about trans stuff.

quasi mantle
#

Honestly, going for gender representation, to me, only stalls the story writing process and hinders creativity process, and makes it less enjoyable outside of North America.

tough bridge
#

I think creators should do what makes them happy and that people should stop canceling creators for trying interesting narratives

small summit
#

Im not gonna make the story based around sexuality and gender

tough bridge
#

:) thanks for coming to my Ted Talk

quasi mantle
#

I think what makes Japanese media much more enjoyable, as a non American, is the fact that they create the characters for the sake of the character, not driven by gender / sexuality / racial stuff. And I'd rather follow that way of story writing.

tough bridge
#

Japanese culture also has no issue with the ideas of crossdressing and such

small summit
#

It's gonna be less "this gay cast go through hell and etc" and more "these sick ass demons go throughout hell and etc" "they're gay" "they are? Nice" and then you go back and look at small details and realize that oh they are gay

light spruce
#

I think that people responsible for this concept of "cancelling" people should be punched in the mouth to learn that there are real world consequences for being an insufferable bag of dicks.

small summit
#

Like it's not gonna be (as much as I hate saying this) their whole personality

light spruce
#

Why would you hate saying that?

#

The people who are the most infuriatingly dumb are the people who think that their only defining trait is their sexuality.

tough bridge
small summit
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Because people like to say that a lot when shitting on LGBT people for being proud of who they are

quasi mantle
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I personally don't care about those LGBT stuff whatever - it's their problem, not mine. I have more important things in my life to think of, than trying to please those people.

small summit
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Basically, I wanna do LGBT representation right

quasi mantle
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Also, sorry to say, but I'm going to skip your project @small summit . I first enticed because the initial idea sounds like a boomer shooter to me, a genre that I love. Then the gender stuff came in, and I immediately thought, "Yep, this is not going to be my cup of milk tea."

light spruce
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I feel like the right way to do that is have it come up at some point, have no one care, and then go on with life

small summit
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Once again, it's not gender and sexuality that's gonna be the center of the game

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I guess it's gonna be kind of an easter egg finding out certain character's are gay or whatever

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Like how the creators of Celeste made the main character

tough bridge
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Ambiguously saying "My love" until you meet the GF
Op.gg

quasi mantle
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Don't feel inclined to satisfy me or others with similar mind, your target audience is the one you want to please.

small summit
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I mean, my target audience is gonna be gamers

light spruce
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I'm sure you know the kind of people I'm talking about there. The "check out how gay I am" kind of people. Because I don't care. Yeah, you're gay. And? Is that it? Do you love building furniture? Do you rescue animals? Are you a fantastic pastry chef? Do you love solo rock climbing? Because all of those are far more interesting and defining.

small summit
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I don't want people to play my game only because it has representation, but rather because they like the game

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My character's will be dynamic, and not only just a sticker saying I'm gay

tough bridge
small summit
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Yeah

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Agreed

quasi mantle
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PROTIP: You can't please every person.

small summit
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do yall play apex legends?

quasi mantle
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But still, good luck on the project.

tough bridge
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Nah, I generally don't play BRs

quasi mantle
small summit
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aight

tough bridge
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I play Hunt: Showdown

quasi mantle
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The only BR I play is Fortnite

tough bridge
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But that's the closest I get to BR

regal pecan
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The heck is a boomer shooter. I keep picturing Left 4 Dead, but just the one special infected.

small summit
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i don't want to please everyone, i want to make it so, whether you're gay or straight, you'll have fun with the game

regal pecan
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Does that include or exclude Quake, and why?

tough bridge
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Maybe the original

quasi mantle
small summit
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but also a game that has actually good representation, kinda subtle representation i guess

quasi mantle
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Because boomer shooters have more open ended fast action gameplay than military shooters.

tough bridge
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I'll play Hunt: Showdown or really any game I have with other people.

quasi mantle
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Boomer shooters don't strive for realism, but power fantasy.

light spruce
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I'll take my chances. I don't discriminate against groups but I'm fully capable of taking issue with individuals who choose to define themselves so narrowly that they disregard all the other things that make them a person instead of just a cardboard cutout.

regal pecan
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I don't know, most of the military shooters seem quite past the tipping point of power fantasy.

tough bridge
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The best Call of Duty was Black Ops 3

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Don't @ me

quasi mantle
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But military shooters are grounded, still adhering to realistic rules, and terribly linear.

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Give me a good Doom WAD and I play through it all weekend.
Just make sure it's Boom-compatible. GZDoom isn't my cup of tea nowadays

small summit
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i want to have movement similar to doom eternal

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plus a little bit of risk of rain 2

regal pecan
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Stalker was a bit less power fantasy-ish but I'm not sure where it would rank.

small summit
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also idk if i want it to be cel shaded

tough bridge
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I love stalker

quasi mantle
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Also, once I finish working on PAST FUTURE alpha demo, I should finish my Doom mapping project for decino

regal pecan
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Didn't love stalker that much. Probably because I'm so indecisive that the garbage would start to accumulate a floor of bandits.

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Had to start memorizing them to avoid checking their bodies and resetting the clock on their deletion timer... Fun murdered.

tough bridge
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There's another amazing game which I love and so many people hate.

small summit
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since i'm doing all 9 rings of hell, i'll have to do the lust ring, oh boy is that gonna be an experience for some players

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but i'll make sure it tickles most pickles

tough bridge
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Pathologic

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Legit don't google it, if you're okay with a challenge

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Just play it.

light spruce
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I never played S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but I did play F.E.A.R. which is only related by its U.N.E.C.E.S.S.A.R.Y. acronym periods.

tough bridge
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Lmao

regal pecan
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I'll put it on my bucket list.

small summit
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imma go rattle my brain trying to figure out how to make my main character

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like, how tf do you make a deer skull mask?!?!?

light spruce
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I played Metro 2033 and Last Light though. (Exodus just... didn't even remotely grab me at the beginning)

tough bridge
small summit
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lmao

unborn lotus
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Stalker was great but did not age well for me...cant play it now. Holding out for 2

small summit
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gonna go do some blender now, adios muchachos, muchachas, and others

light spruce
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!8ball okay, so what about amphetamines now?

turbid spindleBOT
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@light spruce, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

regal pecan
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By the time I played Stalker I had forgotten games could have small levels AND long loading times.

light spruce
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you mother fucker

small summit
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!8ball will christians cringe at the thought of my game and tell me i'm going to hell for making it?

turbid spindleBOT
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@small summit, :8ball: Yes โ€“ definitely.

small summit
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YES

regal pecan
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Reminder about rule #1.

light spruce
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!8ball is @small summit secretly aroused by this prospect?

turbid spindleBOT
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@light spruce, :8ball: Yes.

small summit
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LOL

tough bridge
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Gotteeem

quasi mantle
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!8ball Will I get laid in my 30s?

turbid spindleBOT
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@quasi mantle, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

quasi mantle
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Flippin eck

small summit
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that's what you get lmao

tough bridge
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!8ball will I get laid in my 30s?

turbid spindleBOT
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@tough bridge, :8ball: Yes โ€“ definitely.

tough bridge
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Nailed it.

light spruce
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Man, if you just want to get laid... it's not that hard

tough bridge
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You're wrong, it has to be hard

light spruce
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If you want it to be in any way meaningful... different story

quasi mantle
small summit
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it's hard if you have hatred like them

quasi mantle
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It's easy to find a women, but to have a serious long lasting romantic relationship with them is another kind of struggle.

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I already lost count of how many times I've been told homophobic over the internet.

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Even though what I'm talking about is my own life and well being.

tough bridge
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Rule #1

small summit
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sorry

light spruce
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"The first time someone calls you a horse, you punch him in the nose. The second time, you call him a jerk. The third time, you might wanna start shopping for a saddle."

regal pecan
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That falls apart when you realize it's the rider who shops for the saddle.

tough bridge
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No I think that's the point.

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It's like saying

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If somebody does something that is offensive to you you retaliate.

The second time you know they haven't learned.

So if you return for a third round you're choosing to continue this interaction.

regal pecan
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I'm also puzzled that you'd call someone a jerk as an escalation from punching them in the nose. Work on that left hook!

tough bridge
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I'll agree there.

regal pecan
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The first time someone calls you a horse, neigh. The second time someone calls you a horse, buck. The third time... wait he's dead. You're going to the glue factory.

quasi mantle
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!8ball Should I prep work for this week's screenshot saturday?

turbid spindleBOT
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@quasi mantle, :8ball: You may rely on it.

quasi mantle
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Copy that, manny.

regal pecan
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A wise man gets insulted many times, but a violent man only once.

quasi mantle
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Screenshot saturday in my timezone pretty much happens in Sunday midnight, so I have more time to work on it.

light spruce
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A wise man knows that violence is always in the list of answers, just not always at the top of the list.

quasi mantle
light spruce
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There are some cases where it shouldn't be the last resort... because there are situations where time and circumstance won't permit you to exhaust any other potential ones

regal pecan
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Ever notice you get told to not use violence when you have the advantage?

light spruce
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That depends on the situation

quasi mantle
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I just swing my telescope baton if I really had to.

regal pecan
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Not enough games have a telescoping baton as a weapon. Or a telescope.

light spruce
#

I stick with a mass accelerator

regal pecan
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mass accelerator
Your muscles?

quasi mantle
regal pecan
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It's such a brilliant thematic choice there, too.

light spruce
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Marcus had an eight ball on a rope.

regal pecan
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That's a bit droll.

light spruce
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Far more versatile

quasi mantle
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!8ball Can Marcus' 8-ball answer questions?

turbid spindleBOT
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@quasi mantle, :8ball: Most likely.

regal pecan
#

Using a symbol of brutality and oppression to fight brutality and oppression is essentially the theme of Watch Dogs, isn't it? Maybe there's something I don't know about pool.

quasi mantle
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Meanwhile Watch Dogs Legion uses whatever the character's profession's tool of choice (I think)

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I actually didn't played WD Legion. I mean, sure, the concept of playable NPCs are interesting, but I didn't find it intriguing.

regal pecan
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Its themes might be more about uprising and class warfare, so that fits as well. Though they'd go a bit too far if a farmer shows up with a hammer and sickle.

light spruce
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I'll stick with my 9x19

regal pecan
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Too late, the cliche authoritarian corpo-state has seized all of your firearms with the magic powers of tyranny. However they left you everything else and removed all of the brains from their henchmen to give you a fighting chance.

quasi mantle
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You guys have real firearms?

light spruce
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I do; I can't speak for anyone else.

quasi mantle
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I used to possess airsoft guns.
It's fun to use it to make animation references.

light spruce
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That's how I knew how to field strip a Beretta 92 before I had one

quasi mantle
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Nah, here, actual firearms are illegal to possess for civilians.
And I think it's for a good reason.

light spruce
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Not a debate I'll touch.

regal pecan
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You don't have to touch a debate just because a topic comes up. That said, I do want to play guess-the-country because I'm sure GB lets you own shotguns.

quasi mantle
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Otherwise we would have radicalists mass murdering on people who are against them with the firearms.

quasi mantle
regal pecan
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Top 3 guesses are: New Zealand, ... New Zealand..., um, Bahamas?

quasi mantle
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Not even close lol

regal pecan
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Goes to show what I know. I'd assume you can own firearms in South Africa and Australia.

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Which, as a geography-failing American, leaves me with very few english-speaking countries left.

quasi mantle
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Clue: I'm in Asia continent.

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And English is my second language.

light spruce
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South Africa has some interesting firearms laws

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Because they have some different classifications for ownership

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Like being a collector versus being a competition shooter (which you have a limited number of firearms for and you're required to actually participate in competitions as part of it)

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I wanna say they have four different licenses

thin glacier
light spruce
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I'm on an island; I carry and my educated opinion doesn't fit with very many people at all.

pearl elk
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Im on an island; Im going to make a millenial shooter

plucky pagoda
#

Anyone using Office 365 for Business to handle their email?

zinc matrix
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I too, am on an island

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How many island people do we have here anyway?

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I've counted three so far

cursive crypt
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iceland?

carmine frigate
#

england?

pearl elk
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Australialand?

cursive crypt
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Australia does not exist

solid aurora
#

people can not move upside down

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there of australia cannot exist

quasi mantle
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No, mate.
Australia is Unreal

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Hence we have Rural Australia asset

fluid bloom
#

I wonder if they could get Will Ferrell to perform it on such a short notice ๐Ÿค”

median wraith
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๐Ÿค–

median wraith
#

Now Apple will ask

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Yes but what does that chicken hides under that egg shell ?

pearl elk
#

I bet its got an airtag under there

median wraith
#

XD

median wraith
#

fun fact the VR cameras get some flashing light projected from a "camera" of the phone

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even if don't aim the VR cameras you can see light bouncing

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Epic changed the background website colors to blue

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or I'm totally color blind now

plucky skiff
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fun fact my balls itch

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scratching them as we speak

median wraith
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Also why my Editor just laaunched like that

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but the menu blacks looks fine lol

median wraith
#

the hell is that

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and why the light comes from the wall

pearl elk
#

realism ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
#

thats source engine ?

ancient hornet
#

that looks like it for sure

pearl elk
#

Serious Engine

median wraith
#

Serius Sam 4 ?

carmine frigate
#

@median wraith this whole apple vs epic makes me think i can just become a lawyer . doin stuff for multibillion corps

median wraith
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what are you doing

carmine frigate
#

do u actually need a law degree for that or u can just start taking payments for legal advice right away?

median wraith
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oh I did that and is a pain

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ended with 5 different traces xd

fathom wadi
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climbing?

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he's done some cool stuff with ALS. Got a melee fighting addition coming soon too

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Had this truly odd nightmare last night. I was with a group of people and we took an elevator inside a hotel. However when we arrived at the floor, it was an alternate universe which took all your negative traits and turned them into positive ones. So if you were stressed, you became happy. If you were overweight you became the size you were supposed to be. etc. However when you got back to the real world all your negative traits were amplified. However some people didn't want to come back to the real world, so I had to go rescue them.

mossy nexus
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Is he allowed to sell something that utilises a free product?

fathom wadi
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maybe. depends on the license.

mossy nexus
#

I guess it's only on the Epic store that would really have any baring.

fathom wadi
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Gerardo works for Epic and so does the ALS guy which makes me think its ok

mossy nexus
#

ah, well that answers that then ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
#

yeah that system isn't good lol

fathom wadi
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of course its good.

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not if you break it tho ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
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well whatever then

fathom wadi
#

is there a better character locomotion system?

mossy nexus
#

depends what you want it to do I guess

fathom wadi
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well I want it to do whatever Ubisoft's physical character animations do but we ain't got machine learned systems in yet ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
#

I just mean the mantle system

fathom wadi
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ah

mossy nexus
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I used to have a mantelpiece.

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Why, if we can dismantle something do we not mantle it in the first place?

median wraith
#

the editor froze like that

fathom wadi
#

maybe you scared it

median wraith
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since like 20min ago and still don't know whats going on because the shader info and all is frozen

fathom wadi
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is it processing in task manager?

median wraith
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the editor no, the shader compilers yeah

fathom wadi
#

yeah might be worth waiting then. Unless its a corrupted shader and its looped on recompile, in which case just force close it and delete some temp files/ddc/etc

median wraith
fathom wadi
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hmm looks odd.

cursive crypt
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I'm feeling called out. Lerping for mantling is fine, there are tons of other stuff that needs to be done too.

median wraith
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there is something I don't get

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why UDK shaders compiling was so smooth

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while it was forward shading and rendering

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and UE4 forward rendering rendering mode takes 200 years to compile anything

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can someone test something for me

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if you paint vertex colors into a world mesh

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and then you move that mesh

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it lost the colors painted ?

carmine frigate
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that wil be 5000$

fathom wadi
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@median wraith UDK was SM3.0 (perhaps moved to SM4.0 at some point) but UE4 is SM5.0 so I guess the iterative compilation requires more work

median wraith
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well the mobile vr was 4.0 and still were slow tbh

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well there is the fact the engine wasn't designed for FR so

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and all the shaders

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thank you man

fathom wadi
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I've seen more people moving back to deferred rendering for VR these days