lounge

[fathom wadi]

For Khorne ! And Thool ! And Shystem of a down !

[median wraith]

Why is RGB

actually displaying as Blue, Cyan, Yellow ?

[normal prism]

Now you know what it's like to be colour blind

[median wraith]

lol

[ivory lodge]

@median wraithDo you have any LUTs active?

[median wraith]

no

[ivory lodge]

I enabled one thing and I have to rebuild all my shaders...

[median wraith]

thats from the postprocess panel details

isn't from the project

[ivory lodge]

Mine is the same way... weird.

Oooohhh.. 7 frames a second! Smoke'n!

[median wraith]

Does the volumetric fog distance works for someone at the 4.26 ?

[quasi mantle]

Damn, Chrome really hates Rider installer

[spring parcel]

I never knew it was so hard to find a team jesus

[foggy path]

for making a game?

[quasi mantle]

Who said it was easy? 🤭

I mean, convincing local artists to work on a game is already difficult enough.

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelIf you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

Well, I have a work around but it means I have to redo all my interactable objects. And each mesh requires an AnimationBlueprint...

[spring parcel]

well i wanna work on a game with my team for rev share

can't find anyone been looking for a while

[ivory lodge]

Tried that. It was a fuster cluck.

Also, start with: I'm making X. It's like Y and Z mixed together in setting/genera/daydream. I have A, B, and C made but need help with D. Sound interesting?

[spring parcel]

UHHH

NO

[ivory lodge]

You don't want to tell people about your project?

[spring parcel]

i mean yea i can tell you

A super realistic driving/racing game with a variety of different cars such as forza. But with amazing physics and wind simulation that can affect every part of the car from the humidty in the air to the huge gusts and wind slowing down the car. The idea of the project is Project Tire with the name of the game is QuickShift. The duration of this project can easily go up to 2-3 years so be ready to put real work in. I am hoping to release the finished game on steam once it makes revenue I will start working on rev share.

thats in my umm

thing when i look for people

@ivory lodge

[ivory lodge]

Elevator pitch. That's your elevator pitch. And it's still long.

[spring parcel]

no thats my idea

[foggy path]

How much experience do you have in gamedev?

[spring parcel]

I am a programmer

with around 1 year

[foggy path]

Well that's a start... my point being that there's a number of very challenging things in your project idea :)

Anyway yeah it can be tough to find people who are interested in working on projects

Usually everyone has their own projects they wanna work on unless they really can't think of anything

[ivory lodge]

I've released one game for the lisp game jam. But I know a little about sales. Also, I don't think I want to work on that project.

[foggy path]

so most aren't so interested in working on some other project

[fathom wadi]

@spring parcel I read your unpaid jobs post and laughed my ass off 😄

[ivory lodge]

Oy. Seriously, I worked in a team for a while and the leader was really good at getting people... not so much at keeping them. Or project management. Or a stable vision.

[foggy path]

Well let's not make fun of him but it does sound a bit naive perhaps to hope for that kind of expertise to join a project like that with someone with little own experience

[spring parcel]

wdym

[fathom wadi]

sorry it was just incredibly naive then

the payment after revenue with rev share was amazing too

[spring parcel]

no imma start a kickstarter after we get the base project

and with that money i will pay them

with the rev share

for later

[fathom wadi]

I've worked a few of those projects. They all end up the same way. No end product, no payment. If there is an end product, it doesn't make any money and you dont get paid.

[foggy path]

Yeah the problem with the job post is that you basically want people who have much more expertise in this than you have which is gonna be a pretty hard sell to most folks

[ivory lodge]

Hyperrealistic driving sim also doesn't sound interesting.

It sounds... realistic.

[foggy path]

Sims are interesting to certain niches

[fathom wadi]

Making Forza would be cool, but it would be expensive too

[spring parcel]

ya want me to make ANOTHER survival fps lmao

[foggy path]

It's extremely complicated though even if the game had just one car

[fathom wadi]

yep

[foggy path]

Realistic simulators take a massive amount of work

[ivory lodge]

No. You need a vision. I'm just saying I couldn't work on it without losing my mind.

[fathom wadi]

Most people trip up on vehicles too, they are finicky.

[foggy path]

And you need like an expert in physics and maths for it too

or be willing to really hit the books to learn that shit yourself

[ivory lodge]

Maybe you should start with a simple project?

Grab the City Generator and make a few tracks?

Nothing fancy, just prove you can make that.

Then you can say: "I want to make this better! Will you help?" And no one notices the stone soup.

[foggy path]

heh

[fossil otter]

so many things can go wrong with rev share projects, wouldnt dare to join a rev share team honestly, specially if you dont have prior experience nor some released project to back you up

[fathom wadi]

just make a plane, then make a vehicle. Then cry when the vehicle doesn't work properly. Then learn maths and engineering and mechanics. Then go back, make it work. Then do your landscape and realise, you hadn't factored the heightmaps in, nor the collision and so on. It' gets so complicated with pitfalls everywhere. Want it to drift? Get your maths head on. Want to make it fun? Thats a whole other level.

[foggy path]

yeah honestly the best bet for a project like that is to start working on it yourself, and talk about it to people who like that sorta stuff and maybe they'll join to help you out because they like your project

[ivory lodge]

My ideas are: Vampire ARPG similar to the original bloodlines. A top down shooter with pinball mechanics. Jesus Camp the video game where you play as the kid.

[foggy path]

otherwise it's gonna be really tough to find folks into it if you have nothing to show and nothing to pay

[fathom wadi]

@ivory lodge Jesus Camp the video game? Is the systemic abuse as DLC or in the main game? 😄

I mean that as a joke. I was raised catholic so im allowed 😉

[ivory lodge]

@fathom wadiSort of in the background. You are just a kid that goes to summer camp. You can do all sorts of things like play sports, find things, etc. Sort of like Psychonauts. But the background is the crazy Jesus people.

[spring parcel]

so you guys think i should change the idea?

[foggy path]

Well that's up to you but you have to be realistic about what you can achieve

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelNO!

[fathom wadi]

@spring parcel no just start making it yourself first. Show people some content. Then trick them into working for free. That's the accepted way :p

[quasi mantle]

It's an action roleplaying game about a couple of adult teens who are trapped in another world and trying to find a way back through magical adventures.

[foggy path]

If you want to keep working on that project that's fine but it's good to understand that it's an extremely challenging one :)

[quasi mantle]

That's my elevator pitch, without the elevator music.

[ivory lodge]

You need something you are passionate about. Your vision. What do you want to say? I just don't think adding a digital-bug-death-readout to a driving sim says anything.

[foggy path]

Driving simulator / video rental store simulator

Bam!

[ivory lodge]

@quasi mantleGood start but a little vague. What sets it apart?

[fathom wadi]

they are all nude

[ivory lodge]

One of those games...

[spring parcel]

I guess I can start making it but I worked on another project in unity on the side while looking for people because I wanted to test out the engines

[fathom wadi]

heheh

[spring parcel]

this is what I made

lemme record holup

[ivory lodge]

We are a little biased toward Unreal.

[fathom wadi]

@spring parcel True story. Unreal is the best.

[quasi mantle]

It has more mature story about personal struggles, and fast paced strategic gameplay.

[fathom wadi]

when UE5 hits, it's truly next gen. Unity will be left in the dust until they figure out the system and copy it

[ivory lodge]

The free stuff alone is worth using unreal.

I've been playing in the City Park demo map for hours using ALS4.

[quasi mantle]

Unity still echo chambered in 2D and mobile games tho

[fathom wadi]

for sure it has it's role. I won't dismiss it entirely.

[ivory lodge]

I'm not a fan of C#.

[fathom wadi]

im not a fan of C++ but I have to do it :p

[ivory lodge]

Not everything needs to be an object.

[quasi mantle]

C++ is way more controllable than C#

[fathom wadi]

If I could speak into my microphone and say "Make Game" I'd drop C++ like a hot potato

[ivory lodge]

Also, the Gameplay Ability System is amazing and makes gamedev so much simpler.

I don't think Unity has anything like it.

[foggy path]

I looked at GAS and life exited me

it making anything simpler is... I don't know

lol

[fathom wadi]

i think of GAS like a relational database. Not sure why (probably because I didnt fully learn it yet)

[spring parcel]

what do u guys think

me?

[ivory lodge]

@fathom wadiWhen you have your character do things, you require a state machine to keep track of it. Say they have to put away their weapon, then pull a level, then grab it back. And that's a simple one. GAS let's you put all that in one Blueprint (or C++) file where you can see the whole thing.

If you have used the Character interaction system, then you know how much work it is to handle these types of things.

[quasi mantle]

Finally got Rider installed, and just the way I liked it to be. Heck yeah.

[spring parcel]

ayo?

[ivory lodge]

It really reduces the amount of work required to keep your abilities simple enough to understand.

[fathom wadi]

honestly my specific gameplay making skills have been on hold for so long. I spent most of my time in editor tools and plugins and helping out to keep my memory fresh. But I haven't worked on a game properly for over a year now.

[normal prism]

Ahhh the ladies are back

[ivory lodge]

@fathom wadiCan you make a game in a night with your existing assets?

[quasi mantle]

From left to right:
Makoto Kikuchi, Miki Hoshii, Chihaya Kisaragi

[fathom wadi]

yeah a bad one. FPS/TPS game for sure.

[ivory lodge]

Game = Goal + obstical + win state

Grab ALS and make a maze.

[fathom wadi]

I have pretty much every asset Epic ever gave us and more. So I would spend a night just looking through my vault (most of it trying to get the thing to scroll at more than 1fps 😄

I have a game im prototyping but its on hold until next week. Got some animation to finish for the competition then im all in.

[ivory lodge]

I ran into a bug where skeletal meshes must have an animation blueprint in order to play montages.

You can run a montage without them... but only once and it will just replay the old one.

I just don't feel like rebuilding my base interaction objects.

Tonight.

I think I'll play something fun.

[quasi mantle]

How many days it took you to get this in Unity?

[spring parcel]

a couple of month

s*

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelWas that actual work or learning Unity?

[quasi mantle]

With Unreal, that could've been cut down to few weeks

[spring parcel]

wdym work?

[ivory lodge]

Were you coding 8 hours a day trying to add all the functionality or were you playing with Unity's systems and reading documentation?

[spring parcel]

I did that in a second project then tried to implment it into a game

[ivory lodge]

If you started from scratch, would it still take as long?

[spring parcel]

uhhh well i had a lot of school which is the main draw back

[solid quiver]

you made this?

[spring parcel]

but i think its that good

[spring parcel]

yea

[spring parcel]

didnt mean to put dont

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelYou know was isn't good? Nothing. And that's what most people make. You are doing much better than that.

I'm trying to figure out how long it takes to make an FPS in Unity.

So I can laugh derisively.

[spring parcel]

its depending on how much knowledge

from like working everday for like 8 hours

like a month or 2

[ivory lodge]

"Heh, heh heh. Heh, heh heh. Heh heh, heh."

[spring parcel]

but i had school and i was learning so yea

but it would probably be the same in unreal

[ivory lodge]

I think there's a couple youtube or udemy courses that do it in a few hours.

[fathom wadi]

you can install a first person game without any work in Unreal. Switch a mesh and you are good

[ivory lodge]

Or you could just buy the basics.

[spring parcel]

yup

I was learning the code

[ivory lodge]

Seriously, make sure you get the free stuff every first Tuesday of the month.

[spring parcel]

and added a little more

[spring parcel]

not the same quality

[fathom wadi]

yes the same quality

[spring parcel]

lmao

[ivory lodge]

The Modern City and City Park were both free... and very nice.

[spring parcel]

only from assets

[fathom wadi]

the only thing you are looking at is graphics. The underlying system is the same. Its a mesh animating on keypress. All that stuff is built into the fps project. It even has physics balls that shoot out of the gun !

[ivory lodge]

Those are rookie numbers, we gotta pump them up! 258.1 GiB myself... But I haven't downloaded everything....

[spring parcel]

BRUH

no way

[ivory lodge]

And you still have to learn Blender...

and some kind of music tool...

[fathom wadi]

this is just the unreal stuff.

[spring parcel]

well i just added on from the basics

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelFirst of all: You are doing great.

9/10ths of life is showing up. And you have proven you are better than that.

[spring parcel]

thanks

[ivory lodge]

Keep it up and I might let you work on my game... as an unpaid intern.

[spring parcel]

i really don't know what to stick with man

for a beginner

[spring parcel]

I mean im down for expirence

tbh

im tryna learn as much as I can

so when I can make a fully decent game by myself

[ivory lodge]

Right now I have no idea what you know.

You could be a master gamedev but just not know Unity or Unreal.

[spring parcel]

Ik how to use both editors and the like basics of the basics of c++ and c#

I am actually making a game engine using both languages

https://github.com/Xlyoid/Primal

[ivory lodge]

I don't reccomend making a game engine. But everyone does it. https://github.com/BradWBeer/clinch

[spring parcel]

lol I just started as like a small thing

5 years ago holy lmao

but The most imprtant thing rn is to choose the best game engine for me

to work on

and to learn

[ivory lodge]

I would say, pick up ALS4 and see if you can understand it. That's a good metric candle.

[foggy path]

that's pretty nice

I made some shitty engines but I never made an editor for it lol

[ivory lodge]

I used emacs as the editor... IT was a strange project.

[spring parcel]

I have actually studyed the cpp version and I never knew that a camera controller was a thing lmao

[spring parcel]

how do you even open it lol

[ivory lodge]

The CPP version is optimized and a lot more difficult to understand. But it does much of the same things. I really learned a lot from ALS and the Character Interaction system... but that one is expensive.

[spring parcel]

it is very unorganized

[ivory lodge]

Most of gamedev is organizing chaos.

Which is why I thinik GAS is so nice. It let's me add much more chaos to my project.

[spring parcel]

I keep my stuff organized lmao

in nice folders

[ivory lodge]

@spring parcelSeriously, you are doing all the right things. I just don't like your car project. Sounds tedious and I hate driving. I'm not your target demographic.

[spring parcel]

I guess I can keep working on my fps project in unity? or wha

[foggy path]

I thought it sounded neat but I'm into super serious racing sims :P

[spring parcel]

u wanna help 😉

[foggy path]

sorry too busy with paying work and my own projects lol

[ivory lodge]

warweasle adds .00002341 N friction from hitting a lightning bug...

[spring parcel]

I can pay you😉 with love

[ivory lodge]

The IRS will hear about this! They demand 10% of your love, NOW!

[foggy path]

how many dogecoins can I buy with love

[spring parcel]

Im broke man i dont got enough

give me more time

[spring parcel]

100000,00000000000000000

at 10 dollars

[foggy path]

lol

[ivory lodge]

anyway... I'm going to play something fun so I don't burn out. Control of Fallen Order or something...

[spring parcel]

And like any normal person I make sure my github project isnt broken and i upload the latest working update

AHEM half the people on github + UE4 master

[fathom wadi]

its like an unripened tomato. I guess this node hasn't been covered on the WTF? videos yet 😄 bom bom bom bom bom bom

[quasi mantle]

Happy Eid Mubarak, everyone! 🙏
Please forgive all my mistakes I made to all of you.

[humble remnant]

Mfw completed the painful progression of a mod and for my final boss I get

I am actually malding

[cursive crypt]

It is yet to be added? 🤔

[pearl compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1IcaBn3ej0

[median wraith]

now we only need to apply that DLSS

it seems like the main problem still with the vegetation

[twin lotus]

Is this yours?

[pearl elk]

I dunno, I think it does add some sense of realism to the image but it also kills a fair bit of the colour because the sample set used is so limited. You cant just take a sample set from any old country, any time of the year and apply it to a game set in a fictional California

I think the clear winner here is the fact their algorithm is far more stable than others but it also blurs alot of the details

[median wraith]

Main effect can be get as they did back in the days on GTA 4 realism filters

But it makes edges looks better too and foliage what are technically the worst problems this days

[pearl elk]

well it makes an entire mountain greener which Im not sure summer in California would be you know

that might work fine for Germany

they didnt really show their algorithm full screen enough for me to critique it properly, I dunno if thats on purpose or just because they are focusing on the academics

whole lots of issues I suppose with sample sets in general, varying atmospherics, different cameras, lenses, etc lots of things to taint even the best algorithms results to the point it might be more cost effective just to fudge it 😛

I like the one where the AI is Mercedes obsessed

just start whacking the badge on all the cars

[deep glen]

mfw: realizing I havent had a unity payout in years, thinking the crappy pack was no longer being sold. it is.

[foggy path]

no one buying it?

[deep glen]

once a month or so, but still XD

also, its muuuuch easier to set up a sales account on epic than it is on unity

pff had to find a lot of weird tax info

[foggy path]

All the tax stuff seems to be solved by just saying "here's my EU VAT ID"

and they're like "ok thx" and that's about it

:D

[deep glen]

in theory yes :p

i had to grab routing numbers, fill in the rs-704-whatever its called, phone verification yada

[foggy path]

wow

even AWS accepted my VAT ID without any questions even though the process was surprisingly tedious otherwise

lol what on earth is this https://twitter.com/itsjustinduh/status/1392817461838458881

Justin Cole (@itsjustinduh)

New video game industry documentary trailer is out now! https://t.co/Ov5ylY6ggZ

Twitter · May 13, 2021, 12:22 PM

[median wraith]

But Epic isn't a european company or it is ? So you cannot use the EU VAT ID

[foggy path]

neither is Amazon

[median wraith]

EU VAT ID is only for companies between the european zone

[foggy path]

the VAT ID works as a general tax ID in most cases so if you give it to a US company it tells them you're a registered business in europe

[median wraith]

Still you have to list the VAT even if you remove it

well I'm in the process to get mine but they told me only works for other companies inside the same register

aka european companies only

[foggy path]

well that's the ID you have to put into the IRS forms if you need to start filling them in any case :)

hmm, or actually I might be wrong... I don't know how other countries do it but at least in Finland the VAT ID is also your "Business ID"

I'd imagine there's no reason for other EU countries to have a separate business ID

[median wraith]

here is different I think

my company id inside the country isn't the same for the european thing

[foggy path]

Yeah I mean you get one of those business IDs here even if you don't register for VAT (it's optional for certain company types)

but if you do register for VAT your VAT ID is the same number sequence

[ivory lodge]

I completely rebuilt my interaction object in 30 minutes. The only downside is each interaction object requires an AnimationBP but whatever. It works.

[median wraith]

actually the forms I filled for Epic and Valve not sure if still valid

before set as company

[foggy path]

"interaction object"? 🤔

I just have an interface lol

[ivory lodge]

In this case: An oversized floor switch.

Animations for on and off.

[foggy path]

ohhh I see like object as buttons and whatever that you can interact with

[ivory lodge]

Yup. With animations!

[median wraith]

@foggy path @deep glen As Epic have HQs in Europe you can may point to it, so in that case you could use the VAT EU ID (I think is what you mean)

[ivory lodge]

Doing it in GAS for extra points.

[foggy path]

you really love GAS

lol

[ivory lodge]

I like ZzGERTzZ's content but his code is over complex.

[median wraith]

I will need to talk with Luos in a close future about the VAT Moss collection there

[ivory lodge]

@foggy pathGAS is a challenge.

It defeated me once, but I've been doing pushups and I will not fail again.

[pearl elk]

@median wraith Epic Games International, S.à r.l. is Luxembourg

[deep glen]

@median wraith all i had to do was give a swift code that routes the money to a US location of my bank.

[foggy path]

Epic games could be an innovator and start paying in dogecoin

[ivory lodge]

I would like one of those codes that routes money to my bank account, too!

You ever wonder if you could get Bill Gate's bank account number and just transfer a few hundred thousand.. Would he notice?

[pearl elk]

vbucks are worth more than doge at this point arnt they 😛

[ivory lodge]

I prefer to be paid the old fashioned way: Cattle and livestock.

[pearl elk]

I accept gold or silver bars

[ivory lodge]

I will work on your code for 1 heffer and 3 chickens a month!

No wife jokes.

Ok, have to leave for work. Have fun

[pearl elk]

In Hevedys case I will accept doubloons

[ivory lodge]

Ham...yum.

[median wraith]

We sold all of these to USA

[ivory lodge]

I need to learn how to make editor plugins.

[median wraith]

I have to give the thanks and Quixel for all the generated metahumans that have rounded faces as mine

Thank you, thought I was rare, until now that I got a terracotta army

[twin lotus]

Hey guys

I have a question

So you all know that Unreal Engine has free Quixel Megascans library

[fathom wadi]

yeah maybe one day the noobs will actually use it instead of coming to this server and asking "Why does my editor exist? Which is better unity or unreal?" and the immortal "Can you do all this work for me whilst I ignore your advice and spend 2 days wasting everyone's time with stupid questions?"

[twin lotus]

So I just wanna know if they can be use in unity

[fathom wadi]

oh look. another one 😄

good timing

[twin lotus]

Lol

I'm just confused

I looked everywhere

But had no place to go but here

Sorry if you think I'm a noob here

[fathom wadi]

dont be sorry. Im not

I mean... you can learn this stuff if you read. Its this new invention that just started to pick up :p

you lost the game because you google for him

noobs 1 - 0 ponkkis

dammit. I got to get into that reading business. Learn me some smarts.

[twin lotus]

xD, all pros now were noobs sometime

[fathom wadi]

yeah that I can live with. But last night was epic for starter questions. Think I was dreaming about shouting "google it" at some point last night

@twin lotusall pros googled first.

[cursive crypt]

Uh, yeah, the meme-d diff between junior and senior, the latter know how to google better.

[twin lotus]

Yea but am a noob

[cursive crypt]

Try DuckDuckGo

🦆 search engine

[twin lotus]

I don't use UE anyway

[fathom wadi]

you know how to stop being a noob? You learn to teach yourself. I mean this sincerely. If you cant find information for yourself, you will never advance. You will just waste the time of others.

life is precious

[twin lotus]

I'm a unity game developer with +4 years of experience

[fathom wadi]

lol

[cursive crypt]

Aye, you are also in the realm of #lounge where everything is burgers

[ivory lodge]

You know, we hear a lot about the veterans of the psychic wars, but no one had made a game about it.

[fathom wadi]

that just made me lose all respect for you. But dont hold it against me. Im just in shock

[twin lotus]

That's what I do, whenever I want to do something new in unity, I google it

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, don't pay Marc's attention, he is frequently kicked out of social platforms 😛

[ivory lodge]

It's not that bad an idea.

[twin lotus]

But some day I'll start using UE

[cursive crypt]

Do it today.

[fathom wadi]

yeah my social media record sucks. But my helping people with unreal record is second only to a certain Youtube star

[cursive crypt]

Quixel is inside.

[twin lotus]

I googled it, but just kept finding some useless reddit posts without answers

[cursive crypt]

Usually you find the EULA on the product's website.

[twin lotus]

Lucky you

[ivory lodge]

I think you should just dive into the source code and start changing things to see how unreal works. That's the best way.

[cursive crypt]

Rewrite it 💡

[ivory lodge]

Improve it!

[cursive crypt]

Conquer it!

[twin lotus]

Tame it!

Nvm

[fathom wadi]

learn.unrealengine.com needs to be a shortcut in this server

[twin lotus]

I went too far

[ivory lodge]

Write a song about it!

[fathom wadi]

Smail... check out the EULA on Unreal Engine. It's similar to anything they give away for free. If its given away by Epic, its meant ONLY for the Unreal Engine usage. That goes for megascans/quixel, the assets, etc.

for future ref

[twin lotus]

Oh I get it now, thank you

[ivory lodge]

Then make a simple MMO ARPG to start with...

[zinc matrix]

I'd like to use the quixel megascans, but am worried they might tank performance

[cursive crypt]

#quixel please

[fathom wadi]

Im not sure if Unity has a EULA or not. I dont think they give anything away for free but on this side of the coin, it's all good.

[twin lotus]

Btw here's my work using Unity, just to let you guys know
https://youtu.be/LE64mDk_-V0

[fathom wadi]

ahh so you flip assets?

[cursive crypt]

wtf, they should have, lol

[twin lotus]

Me?

[fathom wadi]

thats what we do here

we just flip good assets

[twin lotus]

No I made this asset

[fathom wadi]

oh sorry

chuckles in disgrace

[twin lotus]

I'm currently devlopping it

[twin lotus]

Np

It's been 8 months of work rn

[cursive crypt]

@turbid spindle !coin

[ivory lodge]

Please, let's not insult our guests. Even if they have strayed from tye path of Unreal.

[cursive crypt]

@turbid spindle !coin 🤔

Yo, mods give me my money for back for the Premium account

[fathom wadi]

im not insulting anyone. But for 4 years experience I was expecting more. And I did say WE flip assets here. It was a dual jibe

[zinc matrix]

Has anybody had problems with quixel scans tanking performance?

[fathom wadi]

Im no better than any unity dev with a bunch of free assets either

well I am. That was a lie

😄

[twin lotus]

How old are you? @fathom wadi

[ivory lodge]

Yesterday was chilly but I wanted to go to a park. So I pulled the city park demo and walked around for a couple hours. When it got dark, I made it night time.

[twin lotus]

xD

[fathom wadi]

almost old enough to be a grumpy old bastard. No wait. I am old enough

[bronze axle]

!coin

[turbid spindle]

@bronze axle, :coin: Tails

[twin lotus]

Like +35?

[bronze axle]

@turbid spindle coin

[turbid spindle]

@bronze axle, :coin: Tails

[fathom wadi]

44

[ivory lodge]

@fathom wadi Get off my lawn!

[twin lotus]

Oof fr?

[fathom wadi]

no UK

wish I was in Fr tho

[twin lotus]

Oh thought it's jp

I'm jk, I'm 16 btw

[fathom wadi]

wow you been using unity since you were 12 then. GG

[twin lotus]

Yup

[fathom wadi]

my kid is on the road to that too. Teaching himself python atm

[ivory lodge]

So did you make a FNAF clone?

Also, I guess my son is a slacker.

[fathom wadi]

my son draws FNAF chars quite often.

[twin lotus]

Good choice

[fathom wadi]

His first model in Blender was a really creepy spongebob squarepants 😄

[twin lotus]

C# is kinda useless

xD

[fathom wadi]

I wouldn't say that. Lots of games made with it

python is only good for inter-application communications really too. Otherwise you wouldn't catch me using it

[twin lotus]

No game engine but unity and another engine use it

[ivory lodge]

Finally. Someone gets it.

[fathom wadi]

c# builds this engine so....

[twin lotus]

Woah

UE?

[fathom wadi]

yes

the Unreal build Tool is made with C#

[twin lotus]

Wth

Dang

It's a good language now

java cries in the corner

[ivory lodge]

No wonder I hate the build tool.

[fathom wadi]

everything has its purpose in code. Thats why I joke about Unity but I dont take myself seriously. Its just a joke. I would use it in a heartbeat if I was being paid to

there was an F++ at one point. What happened to that?

or was it F#

?

[twin lotus]

Both

[fathom wadi]

https://fsharp.org/

[twin lotus]

Idk

[ivory lodge]

If they keep adding sharps, they should move up a letter to B.

[fathom wadi]

There is no B sharp tho. That is a C flat :p

I used to say B sharp was the gimbal lock of music.

Miles Davis once said "Do not fear mistakes, for there are none"

He never used Unreal though. Accessed None

[median wraith]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/twinmotion-construction-vehicles

oh nice

this covers my dreams from when I was 8

[humble remnant]

Vroom vroom

[ivory lodge]

Me has character throw a cement mixer at his enemies...

[median wraith]

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-omniverse-machinima-now-available-in-open-beta/?ncid=so-twit-635788#cid=ov01_so-twit_en-us

Nvidia just released Nvidia Source Film Maker

"Technical artists, developers and content creators can now take 3D storytelling to the next level"

Technical Artist aren't developers

[fresh heath]

They're gonna wear tinfoil masks

[fathom wadi]

at least we can spot them easier then

[cursive crypt]

Oh, cars this week on the stream 🤔

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhVgWEo_xE watch this and trigger your imposter syndrome.

[fathom wadi]

thats disgusting. You can get it cheaper on uplay I guess.

[median wraith]

if someone download the vehicles

tell me how these look from inside

was on sale like 2 weeks ago

[cursive crypt]

UPlay also has some discounts, that's how I got it last year.

[fathom wadi]

https://www.humblebundle.com/store/far-cry-5 9.99 atm

[median wraith]

Also I wanted a bike

[fathom wadi]

The power of Yes compels you

[median wraith]

your money is more valuable than ours

oh

😂

[cursive crypt]

bike sim?

[fathom wadi]

working for me so the service isn't down

[median wraith]

Post from nvidia have 20 likes

Imagine me posting something and get spot lmao

[cursive crypt]

eww

[fathom wadi]

https://www.capturingreality.com/

worth a look

[median wraith]

5 years ago was easier to get views on Twitter etc

today even your grandma does games

[cursive crypt]

Ain't that kinda old? Also it is blasphemy, Epic bought one of the other photogrammetry apps, that Italian one 🤔

[cursive crypt]

I would love such grandma, lol

[primal spoke]

most love I got Twitter was a post saying it was snowing.

oh and there was a demonic looking snow many I built next to me.

[median wraith]

you can get with the tags more views at instagram

[primal spoke]

233 likes, 20 retweets

instagram is tough.

[median wraith]

not gona happen on my end

[median wraith]

because every grandma now does games and software as you cannot retire until you are 95 now

[primal spoke]

A texas snowman:

[median wraith]

didn't came the news to request the use of images ?

you can say its from texas as have red eyes

[primal spoke]

Thats me, in texas, with the quasi reddit looking snowman I made.

[median wraith]

well nice save saying thats based on the reddit bot

[primal spoke]

I'm out of practice building snowmen.

[median wraith]

Oh no the machines epic gave are static meshes 😢

[fathom wadi]

rig 'em

😄

[thin glacier]

Imagine being Trigger’s copilot

Poor fucker’s probably unconscious 90% of the time

[quasi mantle]

You guys have snow?

[regal pecan]

Jan 10

[thin glacier]

Yeah though for some reason it’s speaking Finnish

[quasi mantle]

sits in tropical islands near the equator

There is no snow near the equator. All but average of 30°C everyday

[fathom wadi]

http://www.cgchannel.com/2021/05/ubisoft-open-sources-mixer/ Blender just got multiplaer support

not that i know of but I have no friends to use it with 😄

[fathom wadi]

i know its odd

[pearl elk]

they coulda called it Swingers I suppose

doubtful, didnt MS have their own Mixer too

tbh naming apps after household appliances doesnt really do you many favours in terms of search discoverability

Blender is lucky people already know the name fairly well

so does hobogarden 😛

[foggy path]

Elon looked at the doge chart and decided it had gone down long enough. He tweeted about it and boom value instantly started climbing...

[fathom wadi]

I couldn't get my ID validated to buy it. Im so pissed off

[foggy path]

honestly it's a pretty big gamble

[fathom wadi]

I can live with that for £20 that I was gonna spend 😄

[foggy path]

I don't know if I'd buy it at this point... or if I would have bought it at any point during the rise lol

heh

[pearl elk]

its still not bounced back fully to the 0.7 it was at though

[foggy path]

Yeah it would have to be a rather meteoric rise to go up to 0.7 so fast

[fathom wadi]

you can buy a Tesla with doge now. It only costs 14 billion of them.

[pearl elk]

cant buy Tesla with Bitcoin though

[fathom wadi]

not anymore 🙂

[pearl elk]

bye bye 320billion

[foggy path]

lol I just took a look at the 1 minute chart

exactly where you see that sharp climb

that's where Elon's tweet was posted

lol

[pearl elk]

I dunno why the market moves on every word from Mr Musk personally. The fact Tesla accepted Bitcoin to begin with was probably a poor decision

[foggy path]

no idea... I guess his fanboys all just buy into it

and at this point speculators look at it as a marker for when the value will go up so they also buy into it

that'd be my guess

[pearl elk]

or maybe there is value because they invest into it, then whoever was holding before gets a windfall drops a load of stock/coin and boom its dead weight again

I think he'd want to be careful about where his money is vs where he tells people to put theirs

then again Im sure he can afford to avoid being found out

Elon, tweets price goes up, Elon goes on SNL price goes down, Elon tweets price goes up

as if he aint buying and selling

[fathom wadi]

price fixing at it's finest. Hope the SEC sticks a rocket up his bum for it

[pearl elk]

Theyre already watching his tweets, could be why its done through meme cryptology now

He got in trouble in the past, they put a limit on what he's allowed to say, doesnt stop him though

[ivory lodge]

I don't think the SEC has authority over Dogecoin.

That would be like having authority over the English pound.

[pearl elk]

its alot bigger than a single currency mate

Elon can fix entire markets

in terms of currency he is like number 1 or 2 in the world depending on which day of the week it is

you can bet Tesla dumped their Bitcoin before their announcement and Tesla are subject to SEC authority, like SpaceX, like Boring Company and Elons taxes well those arnt a private matter if the US Government wants to go fishing.

[foggy path]

There's no legislation on pump and dumping crypto yeah

A friend was saying that he might be doing it to drive that kind of legislation

but I think he's just doing it for shits and giggles

[pearl elk]

yeah but there is legislation surrounding actual currencies, which you have to convert crypto to if you want to offload it

[foggy path]

as long as you pay taxes on it you'd probably be fine since you're not price manipulating the real currency or a stock or anything :D

[pearl elk]

I suppose, I cant complain too much not like I fall for these get rich quick schemes

[foggy path]

cough McAfee cough

[pearl elk]

would be great to be as rich as Elon but I doubt you get there without taking some sort of moral hit, I dont think he's the saviour everyone thinks he is

[foggy path]

he just got shitloads of money from paypal and such didn't he

there were some suggestions that he may have encouraged a coup to get lithium from some 3rd world country

forget which one it was

[pearl elk]

I cant, he got banned from social media

https://tenor.com/view/trump-funny-deal-with-it-gif-12219913

what is it with the US and cultism aye

[foggy path]

indoctrination from young age?

lol

[ivory lodge]

I'm so out of it I'm just making more work for myself.

[pearl elk]

I was reading how Tom Macdonald has been issuing takedown notices for Eminems Stans Revenge NFT but it sounds like he might not actually own the rights lol

[foggy path]

I heard Tony Hawk was starting to push some NFT but he got so much hate over it that he deleted it lol

[ivory lodge]

I duplicated an object instead of subclassing it. And I was wondering why I couldn't get events from my animNotifies.

It's a solution in search of a problem.

[fathom wadi]

does that mean I can become a cult leader too now? Follow me. I shall show you where learn.unrealengine.com is 😄

[sage ermine]

So... I just got a friend request through the epic launcher?

But it won't let me see anything about them?

[quasi mantle]

!dice 6 3

[turbid spindle]

Choose one of these available dice: d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20

[quasi mantle]

!dice d6 3

[turbid spindle]

Please enter a number between 1 and 7.

[quasi mantle]

3

[turbid spindle]

Choose one of these available dice: d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20

[quasi mantle]

d6

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :game_die: 4, 3, 3

[thin glacier]

Imagine flying an A-10 and hearing << Five Su-30s inbound >>

[pearl elk]

Like, share and obey

[quasi mantle]

I guess my time with Rider won't be long.

[minor wharf]

Hello everyone

[fathom wadi]

why hello there sir

[minor wharf]

How's it going?

[fathom wadi]

Its going down like a broken lift. How about you ?

[minor wharf]

lol I hear that one! Doing ok, finally have free time coming up since school is out and looking forward to starting game development.

[fathom wadi]

Just starting? Well enjoy the journey 🙂 It is fruitful and long, but if education is what you yearn, you will be fed for life with game dev 🙂

[minor wharf]

Yes just starting, trying to figure out how I will do the things I am hoping to achieve with the game, the learning will be very refreshing and welcomed.

[fathom wadi]

I can highly recommend doing the courses on http://learn.unrealengine.com which, after a few introduction courses that don't take long, will give you a good basis to start with. Even the pros use these courses.

[minor wharf]

Definitely, I was looking into those so I can learn all the basics.

[pearl elk]

I must not be a pro, I havent done the courses 😦

[minor wharf]

lol you must be on a whole other level

[fathom wadi]

I have done 3 of them. Got a badge. Love my badge. BADGE !

[minor wharf]

Ooo shiny badges!

[fathom wadi]

yeah it really makes it feel worth the effort. I only did the courses because it was a requirement for a competition but I'd do them again because I feel rusty after months of Blender work

[minor wharf]

I need to learn blender, is it very difficult to get the hang of? I know you need an artistic eye but like using the program, is it difficult to grasp?

[fathom wadi]

its truly the easiest thing I ever learned.

[minor wharf]

Awesome! See I am like very new to this whole thing. I mean I understand computers and have done a very very small amount of coding. But I understand the scope of things and am more than willing to learn cause making a game has always been a thing I wanted to do.

[fathom wadi]

if you want to learn blender really quick, start with the Donut tutorial from Blender Guru. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPrnSACiTJ4

that will give you a nice start. You can follow his other tutorials and go from there

[dense storm]

Building 865 actions with 64 processes..... le sigh... coffee time..

[minor wharf]

@fathom wadi Ok thanks, I think I have that one saved from a while back. I'll definitely be looking into it!

@dense storm 865 actions with 64 processes in what? That sounds like a lot.

[dense storm]

TR 3970x

took me 10mins to build UE4 from scratch on that machine 😄

[quasi mantle]

No one can beat my 4300+ actions with 4 processes 😎

[dense storm]

i would..cry

[minor wharf]

Oh, cpu processing power lol

[dense storm]

then wait for 8 hours

[fathom wadi]

My processor does 1 action with resentment. beat that

[quasi mantle]

*24 hours

[minor wharf]

I have a decent rig but not one that can beat a threadripper

[dense storm]

ye, i would consider my life choices

"should i eat or save for a faster pc.."

[fathom wadi]

my computer compiles shaders via punch cards its so old.

[quasi mantle]

I already consider my life as a third world inhabitant.

[minor wharf]

lol, can I show my rig here or should I post a pic in hardware?

[fathom wadi]

you could get relocation work if you wanted it Hoodie. You got the skills brother.

[dense storm]

honestly tho i see a lot of people taking 12+ hours to compile UE4

im like, my 3950 does it in 16mins..

tho that is not all modules

i would love to see what all modules/all programs takes on the TR box

[quasi mantle]

Subscribing to Rider would cost me several days of being able to eat for days and buying monthly logistics lmao

Let alone trying to pay team members (which until now still work rather voluntarily)

[dense storm]

heh all those boxes, man i want to get the 64core one!

[minor wharf]

Oh I was wondering, is it possible to have an idea if my rig can handle making a 3d game with quite a bit of physics in it? Or has someone had experience and could advise maybe?

@dense storm That is a lot!

[quasi mantle]

Sometimes I wonder if my life would've been better if I were born somewhere in first world country 22 years ago.

[dense storm]

Where do you live?

[quasi mantle]

A third world country called Indonesia.

[dense storm]

It's a nice place though

[silk lily]

hi neightbour @quasi mantle am from malaysia

[dense storm]

visited there 15 years ago

[pearl elk]

needs more cores

[quasi mantle]

2005?

[dense storm]

2006

Went to Bali

[quasi mantle]

TBH Bali is like one of the obvious tourist destination. Less obvious is the other islands, and I'm in Java island.

[dense storm]

ye it was cheap 😄

plus every travel agent in the UK has either Bali or Lombok

[solid aurora]

40 minutes

just what needed for game 5 min

the process is really bad for engine build, there is alot of recompiling the same shit over and over again

[cursive crypt]

#cpp

[remote heart]

It worked a while ago and after I try to recompile again, it's no longer working

Oh shit

sorry wrong channel

[thin glacier]

Pretty sure I’m about to noclip straight into Hell for this

[cursive crypt]

Missing context here.

[fluid bloom]

this is some /r/youngpeopleyoutube material

[normal prism]

Ooooh

Subnautica Below Zero 1.0 is out!

[foggy path]

I was looking at my GOG purchase history and I totally forgot I bought the Homeworld Remastered collection, probably sort of on a whim because it was like 2 bucks lol

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzFRySNQFxo

[summer compass]

hey, there is no option to completely clear direct messages with someone on discord. Can you pleaaase upvote this suggestion?
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360032888232-Clearing-Direct-Message-Option

[quasi mantle]

Blocking is enough for me, as it hides the convo from the opposing side.

[pearl elk]

Way I see it is if you didnt want to type it, then you wouldnt 🙂

[quasi mantle]

I mean, there's not much purpose to locally clear a message if you're not in bad term with the opposing side, and even if you have a bad term with them, you would keep the block on.

Unless you're secretly into something about them that is, aka love hate relationship 😏

[pearl elk]

good thing my wife doesnt look at my discord and catch me micro cheating hehehe

might help if I had a wife... or a life for that matter

[quasi mantle]

I'm just happy I'm still ended up realistically single after 22 years of living, even though my waifu is Unreal.

[cursive crypt]

You guys, are depressing.

[quasi mantle]

*was

[cursive crypt]

Tru luv ^

[pearl elk]

I miss the old internets, when people wernt afraid to be themselves openly

[quasi mantle]

I was depressed for almost a year because of failing romantic relationship.

[pearl elk]

now its all scared people in their little corners worried about privacy

bring back the wild west I say, when I got funny messages from randos and poked from all different angles

[cursive crypt]

Aye, it takes about so much time 👍

[quasi mantle]

And that romantic relationship lasted about two months.

[cursive crypt]

Relationship comes with experience.

[pearl elk]

but it felt like 2 years

it was the summer of love 1989

[quasi mantle]

If it wasn't because of anime (specifically Idolmaster), I wouldn't have recovered by 2020.

[summer compass]

sometimes conversations with friends in DMs become more personal, or you argue with your best friend and emotionally say things that you didn't mean. I think it would be good if you could just delete these things

[quasi mantle]

And in early 2020, my ex chatted me again, said she wants to come back. Thankfully I evaded her catfishing attempt due to me simping to unreal waifu (and questioning her indecisive behaviour - I already gave her second chance before splitting up for good).
Then the truth bomb drops - she turned into catfisher, tricking boys here and there.

[broken sigil]

I'm 21 and have as much romantic experience as a newborn baby 😐

[cursive crypt]

Not good idea to delete their messages, as this can be exploited by many. On the other hand, if you can delete only your messages, it wouldn't matter anyway. If you said something bad, own it.@summer compass

[pearl elk]

by 21 Id had like 4 serious relationships, lived with 2 so I had my mid-life crisis by 25 lol

[cursive crypt]

You lived with 2 gf at the same time? 🤔

[broken sigil]

👀

[quasi mantle]

Thankfully I drink soda instead of alcohol.
(Not like Islam allows getting drunk anyway lol)

[pearl elk]

thankfully no, lived with em at separate times

[cursive crypt]

Man, are you by choice on that religion or it was given to you?

[quasi mantle]

Both.

[cursive crypt]

Good.

[summer compass]

yes, i understand your point. But for me it's just a bit like tidying up .. maybe it's a woman thing too, I don't know

[pearl elk]

you can delete your own messages in DMs tho

[cursive crypt]

Aye, I'm not saying it does not have uses. It is just that it needs to have much better solution. Like mutual agreement between you two, so it can work. Kinda not simple to decide on.

[pearl elk]

if they dont want to remove theirs then maybe keep the block on 😛

[cursive crypt]

Nah, she talks about just organising stuff. Like too much blah-blah or so. So, delete stuff in bulk, have a clear mind/page to look at.

Maybe threads or so (eww, Slack)

[pearl elk]

well the whole point of discord is that its cached

search function is kinda pointless with nothing to search 🙂

then again I use this mostly for work related stuff not personal so I dont actually want to remove those conversations even if they get offtopic

[quasi mantle]

Even then one could close the message and not scroll up.

It's kinda redundant anyway - I deleted a dummy message sent to my clone Facebook account, and my clone account still able to forward it to myself.

[broken sigil]

I just don't meet many new people often and very rarely find someone attractive, might be too picky 🤷
At this point I don't even care, I went through a phase of wanting someone because everyone around me did but now I can't even imagine being with anyone, with my lifestyle it would never work

[quasi mantle]

Had the same feeling tbh
I can only picture myself being a simp to my waifu even after 10 years or so, and do what I love to do in the tech realms.

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, don't close a page you even haven't opened. Just keep your ears open, don't procrastinate activities in that direction and go on. I can assure your opinion on the matter will change inevitable as you age. Like you won't believe wtf was in your head during your 20s when you reach 40 say.

[pearl elk]

Maybe you just dont know what youre looking for yet, theres not like theres a time limit on these things. For me it was mostly that I was young, fell fast and trusted too easily which is why I ended up going it alone for big chunks of time. Its certainly easier when you dont have to work around others but at the same time if they are a good fit then its complementary but I personally havent had many like that, always seems like more hassle than its worth.

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of doing something in tech realms.
I want to stuff in a full fledged gaming PC inside an old IBM PC casing, imported from USA. (sadly UK microcomputers were smaller and won't fit the gaming PC components that easy)

[broken sigil]

Didn't expect to get actual good advice 😅
Yeah I don't know, my opinion will probably change with time
I need more opportunities to meet new people and by sitting at home all day it won't happen

I can only picture myself being a simp to my waifu even after 10 years or so, and do what I love to do in the tech realms.
Give me UE5 and I won't need anyone or anything else 😛

[quasi mantle]

As if UE4 isn't capable enough of rendering beautiful waifus 😛

[broken sigil]

I'm waiting for that double precision support, don't really care for the rest of the rendering tech lol

[pearl elk]

BP_SandwichMakerAI

[quasi mantle]

More like
BP_RendangMakerAI

[pearl elk]

must, resist, urge, to, binge... the rest of Love, Death & Robots

[ivory lodge]

Added a third interaction object this morning...

I wish I had the this boilerplate stuff done. I want to get to the good stuff.

[pearl elk]

boilerplates are good for pizzas

[ivory lodge]

I still have to redo the doors and pickups.

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_gJbyXC5I

[ivory lodge]

And then I can start conversation and combat.

Then I can start...
Then I can start....

[pearl elk]

doors are the hardest part

I mean what if I want to have a conversation with a door

TempCharacter->GetMesh()->SetMaterial(0,*Cast<ACGameModeBase>(GetWorld()->GetAuthGameMode())->TeamSkinList.Find(Faction)); why does this feel evil

[cursive crypt]

I have one.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/bella-door-fail-wrong-door-gif-15684287

[cursive crypt]

Knock, Knock.
- Who is it?
(some time passes)
- Java.

[pearl elk]

Ahh Java my old friend

https://tenor.com/view/need-coffee-sleepy-devastated-lazy-cant-move-gif-15239928

[quasi mantle]

Unpopular opinion: Laravel is a messy attempt to make PHP object oriented.

[humble remnant]

Who?

[ivory lodge]

Really Unpopular opinion: PHP is just a crappy object oriented version of Perl.

Really, Really Unpopular opinion: Like everything else in life, PHP is just a primitive, degenerate form of Lisp.

[pearl elk]

Godlike Unpopular Opinion: C++ is overrated

[quasi mantle]

C# is more overrated tho

[quasi mantle]

*was

[pearl elk]

sorry that doesnt compile 😉

hey wow, no casts

you spelt tits wrong

it is Twitch after all 😛

[median wraith]

I just notice that text logo

lol

Also nice example image

Daz seems like have NFT on their own now

[fathom wadi]

don't worry. We can link external code to make it under-rated. #truepower

[teal geode]

anyone want 3 rickroll links with no embeds?, but they are quite big

[fathom wadi]

dude it's not 2003.

[teal geode]

i know

because if it was, i wouldnt be alive

[fathom wadi]

yeah it shows

[median wraith]

who is winning here

Gaea seems to be kinda dead since half year ago

[fathom wadi]

maybe it just got good enough 🙂

[median wraith]

its made with Unity

does that time even reach ?

Unreal for some reason lock a lot of things to don't let you build external tools as this one

[fathom wadi]

maybe its because Unreal is good enough :p

[solid aurora]

not true anymore

in future versions you will be able to build unreal as dll

[median wraith]

wtf

actually I mean import/export tools

each day are more locked and moved to dev tools

and you cannot ship with devtools

[fathom wadi]

unreal as a DLL. Great. Now we need to write a wrapper for the engine, which needs wrappers for the DLL's.

[median wraith]

yeah Unreal as DLL helps in nothing at my end

its kinda like use Qt ?

or the tools that Google released

except you will have to accept the epic eula

[broken sigil]

I don't actually understand fully what the point of that, what are the uses cases for it
Being able to embed it into other apps?
And what do they mean by 1 viewport only, very curious what are the actual use cases for that

[fathom wadi]

heh Linker errors into Linker errors that cause Linker errors within the Linker errors. I guess this will be fun when the questions arise in #ue4-general 😄

[median wraith]

have the render engine of UE4 contained I bet, so you want to make some app as Qt visulizers but with UE4 features

[fathom wadi]

The irony, too, that the viewport bases itself from Windows.h

[median wraith]

yesterday Nvidia released a cinematic tool

wish we had the smoke rendering features spotted there

rather than RT

after all only 10 individuals in the world can use Ray tracing, the rest of GPU owners mine bitcoins

[broken sigil]

Ah
1 potential use cases that seems useful is being able to use the Slate system

[median wraith]

I don't think someone that integrates UE4 for rendering features uses the Slate system ? xd

Rather could have a whole window architecture in order to load that after it

[fathom wadi]

You can use the Slate system without the UE4 bloat tho

its a standalone system if you want it to be

[median wraith]

or well you can use it as SDL2

[broken sigil]

ah haven't really looked much into how Slate works under the hood

[fathom wadi]

its brilliant tbh. I'd be proud if I wrote it and I'm sure Nick is

[broken sigil]

Slate is great, I hated it at first before I learned to use it.
It's a powerful system

[fathom wadi]

I came from a Scaleform background (its how I got into the industry). When I turned up here, I was always complaining that I couldn't use Scaleform anymore because it needed a license with UE4 (it was free with UDK). They wouldn't even give me a license because I wasn't a studio so I lost my trade. I think during this time I offended Nick by, ironically, slating Slate. I remember it took about a year before he engaged me in conversation after that. But by then I was in love with UMG/Slate 🙂

[median wraith]

I like all the people insulting Epic at Twitter because they free game they gave, and saying that game is shit etc

How cool is the common user from Twitter

Then you see this:
https://twitter.com/itsjustinduh/status/1392817461838458881

Justin Cole (@itsjustinduh)

New video game industry documentary trailer is out now! https://t.co/Ov5ylY6ggZ

Likes

496

Twitter · May 13, 2021, 12:22 PM

[fathom wadi]

I don't know anymore. I got frustrated with one and got banned for life :p

[median wraith]

"gamedevs are heroes"
"This is the shit you did ?"

[broken sigil]

😅

I think many people who first see Slate probably hate it until they learn and understand it.
It looks much more difficult than it actually is because of all the operator abusing they did to achieve the syntax it has

[median wraith]

Scaleforms oh no

"Free" you needed the Adobe tools

[fathom wadi]

indeed. Im used to markup language but it did confuse me at first. But once I realised I could just copy/paste a lot of it, it started to make more sense real quick

[median wraith]

UMG is way superior to these days things

today kids can't image what nightmares we had back in the days

they can focus making volumetric clouds

[fathom wadi]

it only lacks Vector graphics natively. If it had it (plus my Widget Themes Plugin as a native component) it would be as powerful as Scaleform. The only advantage it has over Scaleform on the UMG side however is the dynamic DPI support. Which was Scaleforms main issue. It forced you into a specific way of creating to get it right. But then, so does UMG.

[fluid bloom]

da fuq

[foggy path]

UMG is miserable if you need to customize things though :P

and I don't think Slate is any better on that front...

I also still seem to be seeing a persistent issue with UMG where the layout of widgets is messed up for one frame when it gets drawn for the first time

which is weird because you'd think it was visible in more games

but the layout containers and the basic UI building functionality is very good... if they just solved the theming/styling thing then I wouldn't really have any complaints I think

[fathom wadi]

I can't say I've had any issue with UMG and customisation. Unless I want to break down the Slate widgets, but then I goto Slate for that.

the layout issue is probably because it paints on the DPI so perhaps the first frame is drawn with some issue relating to resolving that properly.

On the Theme issue. I have a plugin that adds widget theme support. But I haven't released it because the code is hacky. I could do an engine pull request to make the code clean, but I have to do some work on that and I need money, so I stopped development on it.

Is it just me or did band names get real stupid real quick? 😄

[mossy nexus]

Naa. They've been stupid for decades 😄

[cursive crypt]

Not gonna ask

[fathom wadi]

pigeons playing ping pong was my fave. I can see it now

[mossy nexus]

One of the worst bands I've heard were called "Mrs Gandhi's Mushroom Party"

[fathom wadi]

How "indir-ing" (yes im old)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi for reference

my friend has a band called "Dinosaurs are shit dragons"

[mossy nexus]

Wow. They even tried selling a CD on Amazon.. 😄 this is the product desc "1994 UK 3-track CD single on Envy Records in picture sleeve. Exceptional Indie/rock band from Cumbernauld that were sadly unappreciated in their time despite touring with Supergrass....Ltd edition of only 1000 copies of this single were produced!!! Cat No.MGMPCD1 Tracklisting: 1. Mrs Ghandi's Mushroom Party, 2. Enough Is Enough, 3. Let It Down."

They were the 1st band I saw that had bottles and even full pint glasses thrown at them in a pub. The bouncers had to remove them or it would have been messy.. 😄

[fathom wadi]

Standard saturday night in Blackpool pre-covid. 😄

[cobalt glade]

Hi there, I'm running a pole on reddit, How do you get most of the assets for your games?
https://www.reddit.com/r/indiegames/comments/ncb2yj/how_do_you_get_most_of_the_assets_for_your_games/

[fathom wadi]

I climb a pole and see what gets flagged

is it just me or does this look like League of Legends are trying to start legitimate beef.

[mossy nexus]

Back in the day when I was in the NUS we had our AGM in Blackpool. The hotel I was at owned a pub round the back, which was much cheaper than the hotel bar. So about ten of us troop round. Okay bar, couple of pool tables and a few comfy seats. We sat down and after about an hour a hell of a fight broke out between some of the locals. Proper wild west saloon style. Pool sticks, pool balls, chairs etc getting bounced off people. All the while we just sat in our wee corner watching. two guys bashing lumps out of each other tumbled and rolled across the floor to where we were which prompted them to get up after "Oh er.. sorry guys". Bar maid hands out tee shirts for those with blood on them. Cops turned up just after that, which is pretty good going considering the cop station was about 50 meters from the pub 😄

[fathom wadi]

yeah that sounds about right for a central blackpool story. The pubs around there can get a bit tasty

[mossy nexus]

It was pretty funny really. A couple of the ladies were a bit worried but since it was a locals issue no one involved us

circa 95

[fathom wadi]

I was walking home once and passed the train station. In the middle of the road I saw two groups of lads mad dogging each other. As I am walking past, one of them pulled out a gun. But instead of everyone just fleeing, they all turned and quietly stared at me as I walked past. I kept my head down and viewed them peripherally in case I needed to dive over the fence. But they didn't do anything. As soon as I was enough distance away I sped up a little 😄

[mossy nexus]

lol

One time in Motherwell I went out for a walk to clear my head, around midnight. Didn't know the area.. walking down a street I see a bunch of people hanging out and checking me out. Bollocks thinks I. As I walk past they start shouting at me n stuff, so I'm thinking to myself if they go for it I'm screwed so did the the 1st thing I thought of which was to turn around stare at each then walk away laughing. Luckily plan worked and they were confused 😄

[fathom wadi]

I've done that before when little scrotes start shouting stuff. Works quite well but Blackpool is all about appearances. He who shouts hardest, looks hardest or acts hardest generally wins before a punch is thrown. But when there are groups, they act invincible. Its part of the reason I don't drink anymore. When I get drunk I feel invincible and like to actively get involved. So its best I don't before I get stabbed or something. I've been in some hairy situations that when I wake up the next day I feel stupid for engaging in.

[mossy nexus]

Yeah I know what you mean

[fathom wadi]

ooh just what I needed. A plugin that costs me a small fortune so I can use it "for a while" :p

[mossy nexus]

😄 at least they have a sense of humour

[fathom wadi]

its a bit pricey for a linklink plugin between UE and Faceware.

they have a 14 day trial tho so I best get started

[torpid star]

https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/original/7016221618471349544.gif

real homunculus

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jXT3mrY9jw

Shadowriver is slacking on Answerhub. 😄

oh another survival sandbox game. Because that's just what I need. A game that makes you try to survive, so that you can forget for a moment that you are playing a real-life survival game

[soft night]

that Mark got that venom feel on it

The Launch Stream of Subnautica: Below zero countdown have started

[fathom wadi]

im having trouble. If I'm a bit vicious with my criticisms its probably a reflection on myself.

[fathom wadi]

a curse and a blessing 😄

[soft night]

what you know you are demigod IRL?

[fathom wadi]

Im more like a semi-god. I'm half a deity. When I get paid and move my family out of this hovel I might upgrade my godly status to "legit"

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqPLdkPSrls Blitter > metahumans 😄

[fathom wadi]

hmm that splash says Eevee but it's obviously not eevee in this video as he is rendering by path tracer.

[cursive crypt]

A new dawn for waifus is upon us

Also, she not moving. I kinda saw the other day something much better wrt that.

https://youtu.be/5YigyNvt4GE

[fathom wadi]

it seems superfluous tho. I mean, we already light things. And the UV Warping is nice but nothing revolutionary. It's just taking some manual labour of the equation.

[median wraith]

Nightmares

[cursive crypt]

It is good real-time lighting on animated meshes.

[fathom wadi]

yeah from where though? By relighting the uv texture. Which will conflict with a scene with lights already in it.

[cursive crypt]

Uhm, the light is in the scene.

[fathom wadi]

plus all that machine learned processing, per mesh/uvtex and you could do it manually in half the time.

control rig on a metahuman already does a lot of that if you program it

[cursive crypt]

I won't pretend I know much better than a team of ppl whose work was basically this for long time 🤷‍♂️

[fathom wadi]

hey im just spitballing here. Ask questions and thou shalt learn.

Maybe they saw the money from the grant and thought "hmm lets do this" 😄

[cursive crypt]

I'm simple man, I saw good realtime anim + light, I upvoted. I personally, gonna wait for the others to solve all them graphics problems, just an user.

[fathom wadi]

im sure its got use cases but I have to ask what for when we have such good systems already in UE that don't require you sit waiting a week for a machine learning process that you manually coded to finish for one model

[cursive crypt]

That what dlss and stuff does too

[fathom wadi]

thats not entirely the same thing tho. Rescaling resolution is cool but it's not as heavy as this and it's built into the hardware now. Perhaps if I saw an actual realworld use case I'd understand it better

[cursive crypt]

Looking at how these Deep Learning models gather popularity, it seems they will be part of the normal development in say 10 years or so.

[fathom wadi]

if its upped on siggraph its obviously useful to someone

[cursive crypt]

I think guys said that previously such results were achievable like in minutes or something, now it is real-time.

Anyway, as I said, I'm gonna wait a bit more before using tracings & co.

[foggy path]

Was watching the Wrench stream and noticed this

Isn't he calling those wrong :D

You should be using Execute_Whatever!

[fathom wadi]

really? I thought you could call interface functions directly with forward referencing

[foggy path]

Yeah you can I think but there's some difference between calling it directly vs calling IMyInterface::Execute_Blah

I think if it's a BP implemented object it might fail to call it unless you do it with Execute

[fathom wadi]

doesn't one execute instanced versions and one might be the singleton variant?

maybe he just wrote code around it. He did seem to make a lot of custom code for that.

maybe the I is a Lie, see the events firing off and go by. A big sigh, cuz the method is on the fly. But don't cry, the event will work in PIE.

maybe he just retemplated out the Execute with some macro or something magic.

probably got sick of typing it

I remember intellisense, before I turned it off and went solo deep dive 😄

I think I should probably do a reinstall and get VAX working tbh. Otherwise it's gonna confuse me if im at a workstation that actually tells me stuff 🙂

I might give rider a go but im so used to VS now Im scared to use anything else. shakes in binary

[cursive crypt]

Any Rider user when they hear about you using Visual Studio say

[fathom wadi]

oh my I just checked out this video, and no doubt his content is great when he isn't whining about crap and actually using facts instead of opinions, but he puts in adverts in his videos now. Even though I pay to avoid adverts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGw-Lkb9Qi8

[robust shale]

What did the System architect say to the fledgling programmer? GetGUID ...

https://tenor.com/view/giant-moray-eel-gymnothorax-javanicus-sea-creature-gif-19407669

[fathom wadi]

Thats not really right. The System architect is too busy to talk to the nubbins and would be in the server room supping coffee and feeling the pressure. Meanwhile the fledgling programmer is being given tasks beyond their scope until they get fired because they had to lie on their CV to even get in the place.

[robust shale]

I'd be up in the ivory tower, not slumming down in the server ghetto thank you very much

[fathom wadi]

last time I worked in networking, it was elitist AF. Hated it. Ended up moving into teaching instead. Then that sucked. So I moved into web dev, and that sucked. So I moved into games dev and it sucks less than the rest so I pitched my tent :p

[robust shale]

Network technicians are crazy, they're like car mechanics that just make shit up to try fill the void of their parents not loving them

[median wraith]

whats its HR Generalist ?

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix at least you got to the root of the issue 😄

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/renderburger-animation-animated-visual-art-roots-gif-17032217

[ivory lodge]

And that's how Cthulhu won the beard growing competition....

[fathom wadi]

I wanted to do some procedural trees and plants with growth systems a few years back when I was staring into the garden and contemplating my role in the universe. But then the weed wore off and I started back on my unfinished games instead.

[fathom wadi]

what the hell is this jive talk? Is it another way to say "We will get what we can out of you then give you the bare minimum if we make any money" ?

[fathom wadi]

you know what I don't understand?

Unreal showcased student work earlier and it was so good I joked that I am quitting after 11 years of unreal engine. Some of them came to me and said "Don't quit! and I had to explain it was a joke. But then I read this guy.....

people like this are why I get banned on social media. That work was solid and it was from students no less. Yet it was AAA quality work.

we should be allowed to call them pricks for it

[fathom wadi]

it's true. When I was a doctor in the Congo, I used to name the bones "keith" and "trevor" and everything worked out juuuuust fiiiiiine.

[foggy path]

I wonder if I should get a new microwave... the one I have has started making weird rumbling noises

[fathom wadi]

thats because it doubles up as a potato peeler for a fish and chip shop installed in the back of it

[foggy path]

like something's coming loose inside it :P

[fathom wadi]

my microwave spinwheels broke so now I have to manually turn the plate every 60 seconds otherwise half of it heats up and the other half ends up rock hard.

Youtube isn't even trying anymore. WTF did I pay for Premium for? It has no purpose whatsoever.

[foggy path]

I mean if it actually broke like that maybe it's time for a new one? :D

[fathom wadi]

yeah I need a new one. I also need clothes for the kids and shoes. Im walking on flip flops that aren't actually flip flops. just my sole broke 😄

like my regular soul years ago

on a lighter note. Got Faceware working with Metahumans so dont need an iphone anymore

[mossy nexus]

Was it a PITA to set up?

[fathom wadi]

almost 13 years since my first youtube upload. So have a blast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hDRF8TuFic

@mossy nexusnot really. A little convoluted but fairly simple once you get the setup done and calibration was easy enough. Tweakable too in case its off somewhat

[mossy nexus]

Had a chance to play with yet?

[fathom wadi]

most of my issue was based on trying to use it with a custom source build. It didn't want to build so I had to go the binary route

yeah just playing with it now. Starting out with video based, so I don't have to worry about the lag. Plus my phone is a samsung s6 so it's ancient and slow now

[quasi mantle]

Adblock gang rise up

[fathom wadi]

I have adblock too. But they put adverts in the videos now. If I wanted a VPN I wouldn't buy it via some YT goon circumventing the reason I pay for premium 😄

[quasi mantle]

Same.

[fathom wadi]

I want a browser extension that stops me insulting people who bully others or insult me first. Instead when it recognises the c-word, it replaces with "most excellent human being" and a sarcastic emote.

YES

but no

Did you know you can complete the game in 10 minutes if you refuse to arrest Jacob?

my wife is the world's most reknowned FC5 expert. She even learned to mod the game just to get more information. #truelove

I find it truly odd she did that as she still shakes the laptop to get information out of it

[ivory lodge]

It's an Etchasketch.

[fathom wadi]

I made an etchasketch in flash once. You can't see it though. #oldendays

[spring parcel]

I have completely changed my idea to something more interesting and easier to make

[ivory lodge]

This is the way.

[pearl elk]

Jeebus if expectations on game designers wernt unrealistic enough as it is

Not only do I need to be a solo indie making AAA games on a budget I have to be able to debug entire game in a night

yeah but those 12yr olds have rich CEO parents who copy them to try to seem trendy

[quasi mantle]

Am I in the wrong for slamming my desk in frustration after watching the trailer?

[torpid star]

with enough efforts they could of faked it

[humble remnant]

Has there been any released statistic about people playing esport titles?

Particularly in terms of hardware

Such titles would be League of Legends, Rocket League, CSGO, DotA, Fortnite and maybe some more

[cursive crypt]

Subtract me from the stats. I can watch only a person I know.

[regal pecan]

Just add lag and packet loss. Easy.

[pearl compass]

https://replit.com/

[pearl elk]

lol the perfect world of marketing materials

5 programmers all working on the same bit of code at the same time, there will be a reckoning

[cursive crypt]

For code reviews it looks useful, but yeah, having more than 1 person editing the same piece of code... utter chaos. Maybe if they work on separate modules, but even then it can be confusing sometimes.

[ivory lodge]

After two days I would have to duel them all, like the 3 musketeers. "I'll run a bloody indenting program on it when I'm done!"

[pearl elk]

would be nice to be synced up to other humans so well you can complete each others code

save me a heap of time in documentation thats forsure 🙂

[ivory lodge]

Can't sleep. Cranking up Unreal.

[pearl elk]

what you mean you cant use Unreal and sleep at the same time, pfffttt... Youre Fired! 😛

[ivory lodge]

I was seeing C++ when I was asleep...

Ok, my system can now take a list of StartupGameplayEffects.

[fathom wadi]

any reason I can't get Manny to let me stream? It says this error message

[bronze axle]

Oh no.

Usually that message only shows if you can't DM the user. 🤔

[fathom wadi]

ahh maybe its my settings them

I turned off dms from the server because I was getting spammed from the help channels

[bronze axle]

Heh, I don't blame you.

I'm sure it can be a bit much.

[fathom wadi]

fixed now 🙂

[bronze axle]

Sweet.

Glad we were able to implement streaming. It's been going well so far.

[fathom wadi]

its really useful. Especially for helping out. People are respectful with it too which is great

[normal prism]

!8ball Was Marc secretly stream shadowbanned?

[turbid spindle]

@normal prism, :8ball: It is certain.

[normal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/there-it-is-well-there-it-is-gif-8569483

!8ball For the same reason as his twitter ban?

[turbid spindle]

@normal prism, :8ball: My reply is no.

[normal prism]

New naughties then, @fathom wadi

[median wraith]

If you use a custom version from 4.26 lets say

if other user opens it with the default 4.26 one will have any issue ?

[foggy path]

you can open projects between minor engine releases I think so it seems like it oughta work if the changes are on that level

[median wraith]

yeah my custom version have fixes and some new functions but should work fine without it I bet

does someone can name a game about control birds or something like that ?

[pearl elk]

Flappy Bird

[plucky pagoda]

Anyone using anything like MediaWiki or anything else for internal documentation of their Unreal projects?

Going over options for it.

I already use MediaWiki for somethings but not overly fond of it.

[pearl elk]

could use Markdown files .md

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I use markdown files because I mostly doing the most of the project.

I don't see the need for internal docs that never see the light of day to be fancy and overdone.

[plucky pagoda]

Nobody said anything about fancy but the people working with the tools, building levels, adding art etc... need to be able to look up how to work with things.

[quasi mantle]

Well, granted I'm the sole person who worked on pretty much the entire game, from story writing, level design, gameplay and UI programming, music, sound design, art direction, asset creation, animation, character design, tool building, to optimisations.

It's a semi one-man project so I don't have the need for fancy docs, just being readable and accessible.

[ivory lodge]

I think wikis are a valuable engineering tool.

Finally got my work to use them.

[plucky pagoda]

What are you using for it?

[ivory lodge]

This is the OSD AT&L Defense Acquisition Process Chart: https://www.slideshare.net/tomlindblad/osd-atl-defense-acquisition-process-chart

We have so much documentation it's crazy how many different forms, documents, requirements, etc that we need. PDR, CDR, Requirements reviews, testing, production, procurement, etc.

Wikis allow us to keep everything in one place with a complete history of the "conversation".

[plucky pagoda]

I do like the built in history and change tracking.

I just need something basic and was hoping I might find something simpler than MediaWiki

[ivory lodge]

There are commercial options but MediaWiki has a secret tool: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki

It's an addon that turns your wikipedia pages into data tables for you.

[plucky pagoda]

Oh, nice. Thank you. I knew there had to be some extensions that would be useful.