terrible... haha
#lounge
median wraith
had planed some years ago to do a kit of tools for static websites but
in browser tools today are really cool
foggy path
this is a picture of what I do for my day job... this is in browser with HTML/CSS and I'd fucking hate the thought of having to build this in UMG lol
I do like UMG in general but it has a few pain points for me
median wraith
what browser is that ?
foggy path
Chrome
median wraith
and what tool is that
foggy path
I mean it's just a website, that would load up in Safari or such just fine
It's a tool I make at work
foggy path
Yeah
median wraith
I don't really like the less and these systems
torpid star
I much prefer html/css for anything UI related. Having your entire ui represented by a simple DOM in a bunch of non binary text files is great. Want a new look? Just add a tiny bit of CSS. Want animations? CSS. Meanwhile you are limited by UMG BP on the UE side, where everything is hidden away and buried deep in binary files.
foggy path
lol
foggy path
It's a lot better than it used to be for building robust software
torpid star
Valve actually solved this issue by basically wrapping VGUI in DOM elements.
Ala Panorama
foggy path
I don't really understand the complaint about the "lots of packages"... I mean so what? It works
median wraith
It's a lot better than it used to be for building robust software
How you managed less and these systems ?
to build css etc
foggy path
Yeah we use Sass
median wraith
and what app or tool to manage it ?
foggy path
the tool itself uses CommonJS modules (eg. same as NodeJS)
We have a Grunt build script that compiles and bundles the Sass into plain CSS
median wraith
yeah that I mean then you have to install Ruby or NodeJS and submodules etc etc
I don't like it for whatever reason it is
foggy path
Yeah just like you have to install Visual Studio to build with Unreal :P
foggy path
So do most of the web tools as well
torpid star
I do like UMG in general but it has a few pain points for me
What pains u referring to?
Limited styling? Binary files?
foggy path
Mainly styling related, it's kind of annoying having to manually style everything, or create custom controls where you have to manually hook everything up if you want them to be modifiable, etc.
like I can work with it, it's just a bit more fiddly than I'd like it to be lol
torpid star
Yep. Although ud have to do similar things with Web components. At least it isn't visual scripting, anything that doesn't use a mouse for programming is good lol
foggy path
Yeah
Styling is a lot simpler with CSS but making custom controls or such would require manually hooking stuff up similar to how you'd do it in UMG (other than for styling purposes)
I don't mind visual scripting, I quite like BP's :P
median wraith
so I was doing a system in C# to combine css and html rather than use sass and other tools
torpid star
It's a bit convoluted imo, html is much easier and less bothersome to work with. I think I'm gonna spend some time trying to get the existing chromium impl working how I've described. Last I remember it was hardcoded to render at 30 fps. Maybe Epic will accept a PR for once.
foggy path
That sounds scary lol
median wraith
I end making tools for my own use then try to sell these and nobody gets at all why I did it or how it works
is fascinating
foggy path
CSS-in-JS is sort of the new cool thing now
torpid star
I'd buy that for a dollar
foggy path
which imo is kinda the right way to go about it at least for sort of clientside applications at least
the old idea of separating CSS and JS into their own little worlds can make sense on more traditional websites, but in an application it doesn't make so much sense
median wraith
I'd buy that for a dollar
hey people paid more for my texture edition tools
xddd
how dare you
torpid star
I think its only viable if you end up generating static files from that js. Non static web components are still pretty slow
normal prism
like for some reason develop for web this days
I really don't think it's that bad
People rail on node and javascript all day long but I've found it pretty enjoyable
median wraith
I really don't think it's that bad
that would say some one into a toxic relationship
๐ค
torpid star
Where did Javascript touch u?
foggy path
the modern JS tools are pretty good yeah
torpid star
Typescript is pretty enjoyable yeah
foggy path
I can install packages with one command if needed, I can bundle my code in one command
I can run my tests in one command
Seems pretty good to me ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
median wraith
yeah what I don't really like is all these in between dependences and libraries
normal prism
To quote @zinc matrix:
js has some uses for the implementation though like if you need a random number you can just sort() it
foggy path
also I can use modules! Instead of haha <script src="where did I put that file again.js">
median wraith
Oh look Pepe didn't update this anymore, the whole chain is broken
foggy path
It doesn't really break if someone doesn't update it
It doesn't just load random versions
Packages depend on specific versions so if someone stops updating their package then... nothing happens
median wraith
yeah I know that part but idk man
I usually tend to don't use a lot of third party
thats why I use UE4 that have just 200 libs
๐ค
foggy path
Yeah I mean you don't have to... you can pretty easily just use say React or something and be done with it
The tooling you use to bundle it might use a bunch of third party stuff to run but why do you care what your tools are using? It makes no difference to your app
If there was a big "website engine" like Unreal For Websites then yeah it could probably bundle tons of functionality into it
but since that's not really a thing, that's why there's so many individual authors and packages
median wraith
at times my perfectionism were like a poison that poisons the whole project and don't let me advanced because these kind of reasons where you wanted to do all yourself
foggy path
heh
yeah I'm just like npm install EVERYTHING if it means I don't have to code something :p
median wraith
XD
yeah I'm kinda now like that
uh 20โฌ for this ? lets get it
when you were young were like
haha 10โฌfor a character ? haha noob let me proof you how I do it in a whole week myself
foggy path
lol
normal prism
yeah I'm just like `npm install EVERYTHING` if it means I don't have to code som...
This
foggy path
I don't really have anything from the marketplace tbh
EasyMultiSave is the main one that I use... there doesn't really seem to be anything else that'd be a big help for my project.
could probably get characters or something but then they don't match the others we already have lol
hopefully Unreal For Characters is here soon
Make-a-Tim
or what was it called
median wraith
EasyMultiSave is the main one that I use... there doesn't really seem to be anyt...
I had some alike in Unity ?
in Unity purchased couple of things to make some Mobile app
but didn't did it so
in UE4 over the years picked something aside from free things
got a scene build pending
from some packs I got
foggy path
I was considering grabbing that fursuit one that someone linked
20 eur
just for shits and giggles, as an npc for my game
lol
median wraith
I picked some enviorment packs and so in the last 50% sale
pearl elk
boy is Apple wasting the courts time on the lawsuit with Epic
throw everything at the wall, something has to stick
pearl elk
Well so far I havent seen a decent argument from Apple which seems odd. Its more like misdirection, not sure a judge will fall for that
median wraith
did someone made a marbles game ever comercially or so here ?
pearl elk
I just thought they'd have a good argument for why you have to use their payment processor but maybe theyre saving that one
foggy path
I thought about making a marbles on stream type game but with cars, I made a quick prototype with some free vehicle assets and quickly realized how fucking complicated it'd be lol
maybe some day if I feel like it
need to finish King of Tapesโข๏ธ first, that'd be some kind of a miracle
pearl elk
Kind of a Miracle is my next game :o
foggy path
lol
I wonder how do wall coloring/painting systems work in games like House Flipper, where it looks like you can effectively assign materials on "strips" of wall
Surely it's not just got a big mesh with a hundred material slots for each strip where you can assign it..
foggy path
nice
I was trying to use the modeling mode plane cut function to cut a mesh in half
but I struggled to use the rotation snap because it was kinda weird and it was always offset from the angle I wanted :P
median wraith
asked the programmer if we could have better 2D editing features
don't think he replies but
Man I'm making a music tool but I'm getting deaf from one side
๐ its super cool
pearl elk
Im assuming everyone is working on amazing games
so just stop so I dont have to compete ๐
foggy path
I don't know if my game is amazing but at least my friend who's making it with me manages to convince people about it being amazing
Most recently he said he was talking about it on the Ultrakill discord and apparently people were interested :D
pearl elk
I find waving your hands around in a confident manner helps to secure the amaze feels
You can just tell this guy is working on some amazing Battle Royale game
median wraith
How the electric trucks work?
You work 3 days per week because you need to wait 12h each recharge?
pearl elk
people do this thing called sleeping for about 8hrs every night, maybe youve heard of it ๐
but electric does have this really cool feature called regenerative braking which doesnt work on combustion engines, what happens is when you use the energy from the motor to slow the vehicle it acts as a dyno and recharges the battery
so a truck carrying a large payload up a hill can gain some extra juice when having to take it back down
pearl elk
Nope, but thats irrelevant
come here and drive a truck and you'll see what I mean, you cant cross Australia on a single tank ๐
median wraith
The today electrics seems to do 300km
In plane
Used to do up 500km in a single time with my father
pearl elk
as I said though its irrelevant because the end goal for electric isnt to be driven
median wraith
Idk man the whole electric concept for this kind of case uses is kinda meh
median wraith
as I said though its irrelevant because the end goal for electric isnt to be dri...
Well they want to replace the rest of cars
pearl elk
its like complaining about a forklift having to recharge, doesnt matter if they are unmanned, you just have enough you always have the amount you need available
electric will always win you want to know why:?
petrol is single use, batteries arnt ๐
when we say the battery is drained thats just slang talk
median wraith
Well batteries have a limited time frame and the fluids are worst than the actual petrol
pearl elk
if your petrol tank is drained its just a fancy cheaply made pressure chamber with not much use
median wraith
Plus they had to change the whole law here
Cuz the batteries increase 500kg the cars weight
pearl elk
you know electric cars predate combustion right?
fuel was just really good because it was like reusable light bulbs, could sell and sell and sell
most combustion engines have just as much electrical systems as an electric car so one could say the electric motor simplifies things, especially mechanically
median wraith
you know electric cars predate combustion right?
Yeah but that have nothing to do I meam
pearl elk
It has everything to do with your preconceptions of electric vehicles ๐
you've been trained since birth to need fuel
its a scary thought to not be reliant on it isnt it, what if the lights go out... what if Im stuck on a deserted highway alone
wooo ๐
pearl elk
lets take for example your phone, how often does it run out on you? not very often probably because you have a habit of charging it. It just requires thinking ahead rather than charging up only when you need to
people do the same thing with fuel but we act like they dont for the sake of argument against electrics. They'll go out the day before a long trip and get fuel so you could just stick your car on charge instead, same same really
median wraith
We dont even have automatic gears by default on the cars in my country
pearl elk
If electric cars had the same investment as combustion Im sure they would be better by now, hybrids still exist too and the advancements in combustion actually benefit hybrids more than pure combustion
Ive seen old big V8s you wouldnt get 300kms out of lol
V12s are even worse like the old Jags, lots of those have Chev conversions for that reason
Koenigsegg have a hybrid which is 1700HP, its a tiny combustion engine but its hyped to the max. But to be a man you need a big dirty engine spewing black smoke everywhere ๐
cursive crypt
tldr: which is better?
pearl elk
Instant torque delivery of electric is better
in any application, plane, boat, automobile ๐
cursive crypt
I have an electric blender.
pearl elk
and I bet it doesnt need 8 gears to get up to speed ๐
cursive crypt
Ha! Joke on you, it has 12 speeds + Turbo button.
cursive crypt
Just a spring. From the button.
pearl elk
combustion engines dont run without the electrics these days, dunno if anyones ever haad their electrics fail or immobiliser die while driving, sometimes the steering lock even comes on
used to be you only needed the spark but these days the entire engine is computer controlled
even Mack trucks
the 12v car batteries you get these days are also way better so its not like it doesnt benefit everyone. Like LEDs made a pretty big difference for cars on a whole
if you want a petrol engine without much electrics you're looking at things like a whipper snipper or an offroad motorbike, really small engines which you only need a 9v for spark
thats 2 stroke though so its not really petrol ๐
cursive crypt
I have a friend who before few years had to leave his... "carburetor" (this is the word) based car. He was very sad. The only electricity this car had was for the lamps and ignition. Not a car specialist to add.
pearl elk
its amazing how much power those older cars use because of the era they come from, I see lots of restomods where they completely gut the car to give it new car characteristics
cursive crypt
His biggest complain was, and still is, that later cars are computer-based, go figure it out for debugging.
pearl elk
just the old incandescent globes alone draw heaps of power, cars from the last 10 years are even so much different to the 10 years before that. Most new cars have all the touch screen GPS etc so its easier just to go all electric
Yeah unfortunately some companies lock down their stuff so only certified places can do tune ups etc
Carbie you just tune it yourself easy but the triple webbers or somethin, thats a nightmare... People tend to run 4 barrels for reliability, so carbies have their pitfalls too
electronic fuel injection can adjust itself on the fly especially when paired with new ECUs so you get much better fuel economy. Thats why people tend to LS swap old cars for newer motors, chassis etc
drum brakes suck balls for safety ๐
cursive crypt
Not only lock. The error message says something along the lines of: "not enough oxygen". Then if you are able to dig out a list of possible reasons for that it is like 2 pages of options and you maybe lucky, or not. At the end it is more complex system.
pearl elk
One of the big benefits to electric though is direct drive AWD, mechanically its alot simpler and more reliable than having diffs, drive shafts etc running end to end. No exhaust to run either so its can be more about refining the car itself
I was reading something the other day about new suspension which can adjust itself based on what its sensing from the road underneath it and making adjustments. I think it was a Porsche umm
Nope it was a Ferrari thats right, I was watching Megafactories
488, if I remember right. Its insane the amount of tech goes into these things, the Mack truck Megafactories is a good one too. Shows how complex the entire process is, Ferrari engines are actually 1 offs, I thought that was interesting, each one has its own mold
cursive crypt
But still not good car physics for UE ๐ค
pearl elk
Hey if youre looking for a car physics coder ๐
just no Bicycle physics, that magic not physics
hasty cargo
electric cars are very high performance but they are so heavy
I still prefer my 90's japanese sports cars
I guess it's like the previous generations who still prefer big old boats with v8s
pearl elk
Sports cars are heavier than I expected, even my little BRZ is a tonne and a half
hot rodders here manage to shed alot of weight though by getting rid of panelling and luxuries ๐
open wheeler is the way to go if you want that sort of profile
median wraith
is Horizon Zero any good or is a clone of Far Cry ?
pearl elk
yeah man lol, its not much lighter than a sports sedan
its because its not composites, no carbon
hasty cargo
I guess it's saftey stuff, I'd rather drive my gtr but I'd rather crash in a modern car
they all have enormous a pillars now to prevent the cabin from collapsing on the driver
pearl elk
the Koenigsegg I mention before the Gemera has no B pillar ๐
they did it with the Holden Monaro concept too the Coupe 60
hasty cargo
have those VT monaros shot up in price yet? last time I checked you could pick up a nice supercharged one for about 10k, and I figured once holden fully moved to china and the hoarders got wind of it they would shoot up in price and rarity
pearl elk
they are all super expensive now, even the Fords. Since manufacturing stopped here and the virus, its all just madness
hasty cargo
I'm gonna be kicking myself for sure
they didn't make -that- many of them
and most were treated like vt commodores
pearl elk
50-100k and thats not even a HSV
pearl elk
lol yup
hasty cargo
so like in 3 years they have gone up almost 10X in price
pearl elk
better off with an FG with a Barra
hasty cargo
farrrrrrrrrrrrk
deep glen
@median wraith cant compare the two, and I enjoyed it
pearl elk
you really gotta use those trapper wires in Horizon
and no annoying radio like Farcry ๐
deep glen
or play like my brother, evade-jump, hit with weapon, evade jump. finished whole fricking game with it :p
pearl elk
yeah that roll is abit exploitable
deep glen
he found it thorroughly boring, but refused to play differently because this was easiest :p
pearl elk
look at the ks though, its like factory new
hasty cargo
yeah thats a hoarder for sure
pearl elk
why own a car like that and not drive it I dunno
I mean I got 30k on my BRZ which is pretty low but I drive it
median wraith
<@!94317435246620672> cant compare the two, and I enjoyed it
is mainly about a history or it have decent sandbox gameplay ?
pearl elk
even if it were a fancy Ferrarri, Lambo etc Id be out there driving
deep glen
@median wraith HZD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> farcry (imho)
pearl elk
Aloy > whos the main character in Farcry again? Hawaiian Shirt Guy?
Its actually even more impressive the PS4 ran the game too ๐
deep glen
^
hasty cargo
my friend loved zero dawn and he's a bit fickle so it must be decent
pearl elk
I really liked the fabrics and the subsurface scattering on the leaves at night time, theres some very cool tech in there
Im hoping the next one comes to PC because Ive not got a PS5 and Im not sure if Im going to get one in a hurry
hasty cargo
https://www.teahub.io/photos/full/12-126541_horizon-zero-dawn-night-time.jpg very strong moonlight
super cinematic look
pearl elk
why is it always a full moon ๐
pearl elk
woo RTX ON
hasty cargo
yeah got the RTX GI on there
pearl elk
25fps, all the eye can handle
I like the realism though, how you dont have a floating crosshair, very edgy
hasty cargo
looking at the HZD pictures made me want to mess with shiny foliage again
fresh heath
regal pecan
"1995" "really visionary" "fringe" Um.
foggy path
I don't think real time ray tracing was a thing in 1995...
I mean other than "fringe" :D
cursive crypt
It feeds on them.
By that time... I think I was into... Dune 2 I think? ๐ค
Not sure about Warcraft 2.
regal pecan
Raycasting was used in all the Wolf3D and 2.5D games.
But that paper talks about using heavy (but 'off-the-shelf') hardware to ray trace at 5 frames per second.
In a time when nearly all the professional graphics is ray traced, albeit not real-time because everyone darn well knows you don't want 5 frames per second.
cursive crypt
Just stop with that 4k and you are fine. Go like... 640x480, the gold standard of that era.
foggy path
Yeah I guess it should say "real time ray tracing was fringe" :P
I think POV-Ray for example is from early 90s
regal pecan
Anything 3d real time wasn't so much fringe as cutting edge. Unless you'd describe RTX as fringe for all of the two dozen games that enable it.
pearl elk
lol povray, how long did it take just to move the camera though
thin glacier
Bad news: I had to completely flip the minigun so that it feeds from the left and ejects from the right
Good news: it was just a matter of inverting two meshes along the Y axis
Though this means the barrels will spin clockwise when I feel like counterclockwise looks better
pearl elk
pretty sure modern miniguns have a catcher for the brass
theres like a round tube which gets connected onto the catcher
brass aint cheap ๐
thin glacier
Now that you mention it, a chute is a good idea
foggy path
it's way cooler if you have tons of brass flying around and smoking and stuff
in my fps game even though it's like a retro style one with sprites and shit I had to make bullet casings physics objects that bounce around and have a smoke particle and make a little clinking noise when they hit stuff
because it's cooler
:D
Yeah after you finish your killing spree you can go back and pick up all the brass
in Viscera Cleanup Detail style
foggy path
wut
median wraith
Well you know we live in the future here and the traffic lights have buttons plus the store things
so idk maybe I took it there
or maybe 5 days ago when I ate a no sense thing they put in my dish
foggy path
iirc I saw research from the US CDC saying they have zero cases where they tracked a covid infection to a dirty surface
so who knows
no idea tbh
could easily have been airborne in a gym too I'd imagine
but it's also pretty hard to say for sure, because you'd think that everyone's busy cleaning or avoiding those surfaces right now that would pose the highest risk... which probably skews it somewhat
thin glacier
Regarding the gun, stationary turrets can definitely have catchers
Mechs will be tricky. Fixed guns in modern jets cycle the cases back through the ammo feed
Then again, there isnโt too much of an issue with just dumping the brass when youโre already on the ground
cursive crypt
Afaik, it can stay alive even for few days.
Tho they say UVs burn it easily.
Like sun UVs, not unwrapping.
humble remnant
Enter the Gungeon leaves bullet casings on the floor
They dangle around for a bit until they stop and permanently stay on the ground
Occasionally some debris is even affected by explosions
cursive crypt
And.. moisture ๐ค I dunno, sticky thing.
Big brain moment.
Sounds cheap tho. Just few sunbathes.
Or maybe he was talking about drinks with sunlight?
median wraith
hows the modeling tool called
gsc ?
bsp is the old one but never remember the other one name
cursive crypt
Blender.
zinc matrix
any ue5 news?
humble remnant
If there's anything, it'll be in #unreal-news
zinc matrix
If there's anything, it'll be in <#219921396795572226>
so nothing in last 2 months?
pearl elk
in Viscera Cleanup Detail style
Me cleaning up my brass
https://i.redd.it/rk2m0af4gbxz.jpg
foggy path
lol
median wraith
well you know
kids didn't watched that camera movements
then you see this flat VFX planes
and this
and gone totally anti climatic
all the comments about the voice
"Reminds me of "The Forest" with a 12 year old commentator."
XDDDD
The foliage ghosting is PS5 exclusive
well, rather its called
don't have any technical artist experienced on the team
"Studio announces new survival game, forced to deny Hideo Kojima is involved"
""massive detailed open world environment"
No lo se Rick... parece falso."
the comments are always the best isnt it
its funny how you get auto marketing across the globe because nobody said anything and they published it
like all the news pages from my country list it
well people take the most know ones
well
based on instagram
were 6 years in the making
or maybe is a teaser
because they claimed the project were abandoned in 2015
now is abandoned in 2021
๐ค
thats the joke there
its says is on early development state
the web is named as their old abandoned game
that claims 6 years
๐ค
the fact here is
I don't think these movements end on end game
this seems like some random survival with the Far Cry 5 plot
well is an horror game with survival elements
where you have a pistol
there are horror games with weapons so
but idk man this looks kinda empty
I thought it were from spain at first
yesterday in the news they claim we growth as game developers, they made an interview to a studio
they claim that hired a TWO new guys in 2020
much wow
humble remnant
Hey, relative scale
deep glen
https://www.polygon.com/22373680/abandoned-blue-box-game-studios-hideo-kojima-ru...
super generic looking video and base ue4 engine smoke for the fire.
median wraith
Hey, relative scale
they put it as example company for the country
humble remnant
Well, for the PS4 devkit, dunno how much the PS5 one costs
median wraith
super generic looking video and base ue4 engine smoke for the fire.
yepe
humble remnant
The most Sony does is publish your trailer on their official YT, and that theoretically gives you a boost of purchases initially
median wraith
Well thats the key
the video is on all news webs of the country just because is on the Sony channel
and because someone started claiming it were made by Hideo Kojima
humble remnant
Hey, that one was free
median wraith
Luos means the one in the template content I think
foggy path
this is my marketing effort https://twitter.com/therealzomg/status/1380981438397493251
humble remnant
-4/10, not enough nose hair
median wraith
this is my marketing effort https://twitter.com/therealzomg/status/1380981438397...
you need it published by some publisher or no deal
foggy path
it's from Mixamo
we did think about PlayWay in passing for publishing it
they publish a lot of games in this style... but they're kinda shovelwarey to be honest
and it's not like we'd do anything with a publisher at this point :P
foggy path
heh
zinc matrix
yeah or you can just use a shortcut
dense storm
contributing their code, advice, skills and time to help out in the past or present:``` ```D. Moss Acidic32 <Acidic32 at Shadow-Realm dot org>``` o_0 2004 dang that was some years ago.....:/
thin glacier
Huh. 500 rounds takes up much less space than I'd thought
no, I'm not keeping all of them. I just need to make sure the ammo drum will be the right size
placid thistle
I heard a rumor that UE5 will phase out Blueprints rather sooner. Any truth to that?
afaik BPs turned out to be a lot more successful compare to UnrealScript in UDK. Why would Epic ditch BPs?!
foggy path
I don't think that makes any sense
They're adding that scripting language thingy, I'm sure it got people who don't like BP's excited and talking about stuff like that :P
placid thistle
lol, that's what I figured
broken sigil
yeah there is not a chance of BPs going anywhere
tulip orbit
they should replace blueprints with etch-a-sketches
thin glacier
Iโve decided to bring down the tripod ammo drum to 450 rounds from 500
18 seconds of fire with the built-in speed limiter
The shield will be moved forward to make room for the drum, which will be directly under the barrels. The mount will still have the pic rail for a sight
humble remnant
I'm not sure why you're spending so much time on a thing that circumvents your primary loop
I'd much rather focus on how things evolved in your futuristic age in conventional weaponry
How an Intervention evolves further, why an AWM isn't cutting it anymore
Is the AK still relevant
What could be improved on its design further
Did caseless ammunition replace brass casings
thin glacier
Modern weapons are pretty much as good as we can make them. Sure, there will be improvements, but the weapons in my game will be close to what we have now
Not identical, but familiar
humble remnant
It'll be interesting to see everything being fully caseless for smaller rifles and brass being a highly sought after resource, making older weapons significantly more expensive to fire
thin glacier
Iโve given caseless ammo some thought, but theyโre not much use outside of open bolt automatics until we can figure out the flaws
A major one is rounds going off prematurely in a hot chamber
humble remnant
I'd still like to see that avenue explored
How makeshift bullets are glued together gunpowder with a quartz pebble at the back
And in turn those makeshift weapons having hammers/firing pins easily wear out due to the roughness of the entire deal
thin glacier
I hadnโt considered makeshift caseless guns
Thatโs actually a really interesting idea
humble remnant
If you make brass the equivalent of military grade ammo in the Metro games, it'll be interesting to see
thin glacier
Heat sensitivity could be handled by having open bolt automatics, revolvers, and single-shot rifles
thin glacier
I assume combustible adhesive exists?
humble remnant
Military rifles could have passive heatsinks that also act as sight rails
thin glacier
Something that could keep the propellant together without clogging up the chamber
humble remnant
I'm pretty sure there's many types of adhesives that are at the very least flammable
One option if you want a really high powered rifle is a plastic explosive adhesive
thin glacier
A single shot C4 rifle sounds perfect
humble remnant
There's many avenues to explore if you assume brass basically becomes extinct
humble remnant
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367223355994013698/830616443619508234/vid...
I'd have loved to see zbrush users working on a model with a "zbrush users 'answering' your questions" as the text
Also, before I forget, I recently watched a vid on the H&K 10 (I think it was 10?) where the plan was to have 50 4.6mm caseless bullets as the magazine, parallel to the barrel, with slots for 2 more magazines on its sides
It'll be interesting to see how a project like that evolves further once brass casings become really not worth it
zinc matrix
I'd have loved to see zbrush users working on a model with a "zbrush users 'answ...
lmfao yep
Iโll make an extended version
ZBrush users making a cylinder
completely mental shaking of paint
humble remnant
Also, before I forget, I recently watched a vid on the H&K 10 (I think it was 10...
H&K G11 is the name of it
Forgotten Weapons did a video on it exploring the internals, you can use that for reference
humble remnant
There's like no IRL examples of caseless guns honestly
Except the G11 and some unknown VEC-91
thin glacier
I found Haloโs take on the concept interesting
The M7 caseless SMG
The mag works like the P90 - just mounted on the side with the feeding end toward the front
humble remnant
Many ways you could go about it
It's pretty much the next step for firearms, after the issues are fixed
Integral computers in the military rifles that turn it to safe when it approaches critical temperatures
Heatsinks that span across the gun, or if you're feeling frisky, attached to the bolt
Miniguns make sense to be handheld if they're caseless since that's a lot less weight to worry about
You could even develop this further by having a backpack belt feeding an MG like that
Rotary action would make even more sense in that case since it assists with cooling
thin glacier
I was considering a backpack for the unique rifle version
Itโd also include the power supply
humble remnant
That's an idea
For all the rifles to handle their ICs, you can slap a solar panel on the butt stock
Make it look further futuristic
Integrated optics that also offer night sights would make sense in that case too
For the miniguns perhaps it would make sense if they are fed with a 9mm equivalent, short, but in a good enough quantity, bound to hit a weak spot
It'll also make them able to fire many more bullets per minute since no ejection of a casing is needed
thin glacier
Regarding damage, itโll be a bit trickier than most games
humble remnant
I'm leaving that up to you, I'm just throwing ideas at how firearms might evolve with caseless ammo
Your imagination is the limit
thin glacier
An armor penetrating caseless round would be interesting
A lot of the NPCs will be androids, so the ability to penetrate armor will be invaluable a lot it the time
humble remnant
They're possible in higher caliber rifles where applicable
thin glacier
AP ammo, however, is generally more expensive
humble remnant
At the end of the day the projectile isn't changing its shape since it needs the aerodynamics
thin glacier
This, by the way, is where the minigun shines. I took a bit of inspiration from the Fallout series
Those 6.5mm rounds are high velocity AP cartridges similar to Falloutโs 5mm
So rather than just being a BFG that dishes out massive damage, you can tear straight through armor and shred whateverโs behind it
humble remnant
At the end of the day I'd focus on your core loop, having your unique setting, then thinking about sidetracking later
One way you could evolve a unique weapon through caseless ammo is in the SAWs
thin glacier
Honestly, my biggest challenge will be the story. Think of something close to Fallout, but the world moves in regardless of your involvement
Meaning a lot of content will be needed for replayability
Your actions will naturally have consequences, but at the end of the day, youโre just another person trying to survive
humble remnant
Having a triple barrel LMG that revolves each time a bullet is fired can make for an interesting take on cooling
thin glacier
Thereโs a version of the MG3 with a temperature sensor
It rotates between 3 barrels once the one in use heats up too much
The Rheinmetall RMG
humble remnant
That's also an option
thin glacier
humble remnant
Having your fire selector on "fast" and "very fast"
First one rotates the barrels with each shot, the other one fires fast until the current barrel is too hot
Further with that, swappable barrels would be possible if they're on the equivalent of a revolver cylinder
Release, slap a new set of barrels, close
thin glacier
Perhaps a stationary .308 MG with the built in sensor
Itโll include a display showing the current barrel temperature and will lock the gun from firing until the new one is in place
humble remnant
I'm thinking more like an M249 use case
Not exactly heavy caliber, simply an LMG to create suppressive fire
thin glacier
LMGs will of course have quick change barrels, but the automated system isnโt something you want to walk around with
Now that I think about it, it could use the same tripod mount as the rotary MG
It can use the power supply for the onboard computer, display, and electronic firing system
humble remnant
Options many
If you just assume brass is inexistent/incredibly rare, then think about how people would fix it, that'll give you many, many ideas
Hell, it can even make for a nice treasure system when you find something like a trumpet
thin glacier
Brass wonโt necessarily be rare, but itโll definitely be valuable enough to warrant investment into caseless weapons
As for the automated gun, perhaps it can use a caseless .30 caliber round and fire 1200 rounds/min
humble remnant
Just take that, assume a few things are solved in the future, like fragility of the ammo, then consider how heating would be fixed
You can really go ham on unique designs
thin glacier
One concept I considered was a .308/.300 Gauss assisted compact battle rifle
Itโd use the projectiles from an M948 SLAP round in .300 Blackout cases. The projectile consists of a polymer sabot holding a tungsten penetrator
Itโs a lighter load than .308, but takes up less space and will be boosted by the Gauss system
humble remnant
You go
I just gave you an idea to escape from the conventional
I'll dip to sleep now as it's too late
thin glacier
Now that I think about it, using the penetrator alone in a propellant block could work
humble remnant
One thing I'd be curious about is if older weapons (for your game) get custom made caseless ammo to let them get utilized again
Say, an M82 firing a new kind of caseless ammo
Albeit less useful than the standard 50 BMG, it still allows the weapon to at least be fired
thin glacier
An M82 using C4 rounds
humble remnant
I'd assume C4 rounds would be special occasions
Borderline straight line bullets flying at insane speeds
thin glacier
No need to account for ballistics when the bullet simply says no
humble remnant
Craftable caseless ammo with what I said is a quartz pebble for the primer would be what you'd usually use, and you can excuse high bullet drops with that so that your maps don't end up humongous
Getting quality caseless ammo would be a breath of fresh air for the limited amount of use they'd see
It's possible to balance your weapons around the concepts
Makeshift caseless has bad accuracy, bad velocity
Craftsman caseless has good velocity, bad accuracy
Brass cased has good velocity, good accuracy
C4 caseless has insane velocity, good accuracy
Craftsman being also military standard if you will
thin glacier
So I looked up whatโs needed to detonate C4, and PETN will be necessary
Perhaps a small scrap of det cord could be placed inside the C4 with the quartz to ignite it
humble remnant
Quartz would be what you'd craft by yourself
It's simply a common rock that produces a spark when striked with metal, which is sufficient to trip up gunpowder
thin glacier
...I know what quartz is. The problem is that it likely wouldnโt set off C4 on its own considering how stable the compound is
You could light the stuff on fire and itโd just burn
humble remnant
Well yeah, you can assume C4 ammo is special order, something like that
Custom primer that's essentially an all-in-one detonator
thin glacier
So a PETN blasting cap of some sort
humble remnant
Military grade ammo would use a more refined quartz that more resembles a hockey puck for equivalent distribution
You wouldn't want a C4 bullet to replace normal gameplay, but rather something you use for a really crucial mission and maybe find 2-3 shots of it if you explore far on a side mission
thin glacier
Looked up a bit more info, and a C4 gun would need to be chunky just to not blow up
So definitely a breech loaded single shot
humble remnant
.408 Intervention
thin glacier
At that point, it may as well be an anti-materiel rifle
humble remnant
If you consider the implications of a caseless bolt-action, I think you can find a solution
thin glacier
The issue is balancing solid mass with moving parts
A C4 rifle would need as much of the former as possible
humble remnant
Perhaps a high caliber that loads its bullets with gravity?
thin glacier
That could work. A .50 or even .75 caliber bullet in a bolt-action using a hopper
humble remnant
Say, a bolt that moves simply back and forth, inside a spring that delays the recoil just enough for the projectile to be out, then loading the next cartridge as a recoil spring pushes back the action
thin glacier
The bolt, chamber, and barrel will have to be extremely chunky
thin glacier
Say, a bolt that moves simply back and forth, inside a spring that delays the re...
You definitely want to have some sort of locking system with something this powerful
humble remnant
Absolutely, but since it's a game set slightly in the future, you can assume some extra problems have been solved
Don't let realism take over the fact that you're making a game at the end of the day
thin glacier
Long recoil operation could work for a self-loading design
One sec
The Browning A5 is a good example. The barrel is locked to the bolt until it hits the rear, then springs forward
The next round is lined up and the bolt closes
This could easily work with a hopper
humble remnant
Since it's C4 ammo you're talking about, one thing you can assume is that the velocity is so great that a microsecond delay can be long enough for the projectile to be out the muzzle
Or well, not microsecond, but an incredibly small unit of time
thin glacier
Thatโs fair
humble remnant
So after that, having a delayed recoil system can make it work for it to self-load
Similar to the M82, just bullets don't spring up, but fall in place
You really want to show off that it's essentially a cannon you're firing at someone
thin glacier
Then again, long recoil operation allows the energy to go somewhere other than your shoulder
humble remnant
That too
thin glacier
As for the M82, it uses short recoil operation
humble remnant
But with the humongous amount of recoil and the requirement for chunky parts, you can see where it's heading
thin glacier
The barrel only moves slightly before the bolt is unlocked
humble remnant
But still enough time for the projectile to be no longer in the barrel
thin glacier
So really either long or short operation could be used, though the former will take longer to cycle and allow a bit of the heat to dissipate
But heat shouldnโt be too problematic for C4
humble remnant
I mean, we're talking an actual C4 bullet in here
That's fantastical enough
And, I kinda realized I hella side tracked with something that you should be using in very few cases
thin glacier
To be fair, who doesnโt want a rifle that simply says no to everything in its path
humble remnant
Crucial logistics operations for example where you need the bullet to hit and absolutely cripple a vehicle in a single shot
Just make sure you don't make it overly realistic and/or complicated
Include something that shows off you're firing a big ass bullet, and leave it at that
thin glacier
Iโve been figuring out the overall look in my head, and Iโm pretty sure the outside of the barrel will be about 4 times the diameter of the actual round
humble remnant
Having to use gravity for the bullet to fall down can do that effect nicely especially if you use transparent/wire frame mags
Look for unique things you can implement that are excused by your world setting
E.g. iridium has been found in humongous quantities, brass has become the equivalent of gold, platinum has become standard projectile, etc
thin glacier
Imma be honest, about half the worldbuilding I do is to justify small details and stuff I want to see
humble remnant
Focus on the big picture since only the most dedicated players will see the small things
And go ham with custom designs
Considering you want a gun to be cooled faster, slap heatsinks where possible to further that concept
Internal computers for military grade guns that are energy efficient enough to be powered by a solar panel on the other side of the cheek rest
Hit a general concept and evolve from there
The small details can be improved later
Make a standard AR, then a makeshift bolt action rifle, plan them accordingly
thin glacier
So I just realized that the concept will be closer to Horizon Zero Dawn than I thought
humble remnant
Put the most detail on places that the player sees the most
humble remnant
If you have this amount of detail on a mini gun, you'll need to basically invest 10 times more time on the standard AR that would be common place for the game
thin glacier
Yeah, thatโs crossed my mind. Iโve also had the same issue with the 10mm pistol I have sitting off to the side
Itโll fill a similar role to Falloutโs 10mm - simple, reliable, sturdy
Weight and size arenโt too much of a concern
Both the frame and slide are milled tool steel while the barrel and most of the moving components are stainless
Because of this, the slide has enough mass to warrant simple blowback operation, meaning the barrel is fixed to the frame
humble remnant
Focus on what's common in the game first and think about unique designs later
thin glacier
The 10mm is about as common as you can get
humble remnant
The C4 rifle should be a thing that hits hard and your jaw drops as soon as it fires and you see the action
thin glacier
Itโll also have plenty of customization options, including stocks and extended barrels
humble remnant
The minigun is a rare thing that you'd fire maybe once in the game for a unique purpose
Don't focus on those this early on
Focus on the assault rifle that'll be fired 1000 times in the first 5 hours of the game
And build up
I threw in the idea for caseless being standard, up to you how that evolves for the commonplace weapons
thin glacier
Iโve put a lot of thought into the weapons available right at the start, which will include the following:
- 10mm pistol
- .357 revolver
- suppressed .45 SMG
- 20 gauge riot shotgun
- 5.56 carbine
The SMG and shotgun are pretty much finished, and the 10mm needs some work
humble remnant
Would it turn into a G11, would the G11 program be resurrected for a new standard rifle, will an M16 be redesigned for caseless, those are the things you should worry about
It's possible to include some political context for either
Say Germany redesigned the G11 ground up while USA got an M16 style, the Russians took the AN-94 and adapted it for caseless
Perhaps the bullets will be boxy so that you can fit more propellant per mag
And in turn the mags become boxy too, and it would be possible to create makeshift mags easier
And so on
Now I'm off to bed for real
But final words, at the end of the day you're making a game, focus on making it a game first
Make your standard AR and prototype with it
The rest of the weapons will come in due time
cursive crypt
Gun talk again? Make ice-cream, not war โ๏ธ
fathom wadi
to be fair ryogb, there was an ice-cream war once. So the analogy might not be peace worthy :p
regal pecan
I would like to hear more.
regal pecan
Not as exciting as I expected, yet somehow more violent.
fathom wadi
yeah
regal pecan
I'd make a C4 gun that just explodes and hurts the player. "What did you think would happen!?"
torpid star
don't play any source games https://twitter.com/the_secret_club/status/1380868759129296900
Twitter
Two years ago D:
cursive crypt
Maybe it is patched already? They just don't want to risk with ppl who didn't got the patch. I dunno ๐คทโโ๏ธ
torpid star
idk, but that was posted yesterday and demonstrated in csgo
cursive crypt
Nice
thin glacier
I suddenly canโt decide between 1500 and 2000 rounds/min for the minigunโa stationary mount
2000 would allow 13.5 seconds of continuous fire with the 450 round drum while 1500 would last 18 seconds
cursive crypt
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regal pecan
I would prefer 18 seconds of ice cream over 13.5 seconds of ice cream.
torpid star
I would prefer 18 seconds of ice cream over 13.5 seconds of ice cream.
yes but diabetes
cursive crypt
Busted, not sugar caused.
If you don't have it already ofc.
It was a relieve to hear, so I can have a regular bag of cookies.
regal pecan
Depends on the type, though I don't care enough to know them apart.
cursive crypt
Cookies are fine 
regal pecan
Somehow don't think an extra 4.5 seconds of ice cream is going to affect diabetes. Especially if it's ultimately the same amount of ice cream.
On the other hand, if we're talking 1500 scoops of ice cream I may opt out entirely. My interest in ice cream does not include being buried in it.
hard pulsar
the real question here is. What would kill you faster, drowning in liquid ice cream or suffocating in solid ice cream
regal pecan
That might depend, gruesomely, on your ability to hold your breath until you pass out.
hard pulsar
but does ice cream state vary the time you can hold your breath?
regal pecan
โขIf you're in a solid but that solid does not fill your lungs, you have your lungs' worth of air.
โขIf you're in a solid that fills your lungs, you have your blood's worth of O2.
โขIf you're in a liquid that does not fill your lungs, you have your lungs' worth of air until you gasp, or the liquid mass collapses your lungs.
โขIf you're in a liquid that fills your lungs, you'll have your blood's worth of O2 unless the liquid is a viable medium for exchange of O2 and CO2.
hard pulsar
does mix-ins change any of that. does rocky road kill me faster than strawberry
regal pecan
I imagine you'll suffocate before you freeze... though as you get cold, you will lose O2 more slowly. Somehow I doubt ice cream is a viable method of cryopreservation.
Now I am undecided on whether ice cream is a fluid or solid.
hard pulsar
non nutonian fluids
thin glacier
Managed to bring down the overall length of the ammo drum by bringing up the diameter a bit
Iโll go with an octagonal outer cross section to make it a bit sturdier
median wraith
Isnt this year the ddr5 release?
Why is intel releasing cpus that support ddr4 only?
unborn lotus
Because its intel ๐ next gen with new socket coming q4
median wraith
Because its intel ๐ next gen with new socket coming q4
Welp ha
Have an internal AI tech too
Well this start to be scary, aside from metrics
Photoshop etc integrsting this techs
At the end this to me sound as calc errors
When them all start to use AI and the techs are almost equal from last time, you should have to start to worry
cursive crypt
Heard that this new Intel cpu sucks. Not sure why or how much ๐คทโโ๏ธ
regal pecan
Lower performance than 10900K. But it has AVX512, PCIE4, 4 more pci lanes... It's like a feature preview of the 10nm chips. Then again, they'll probably remove the features from the 10nm chips so that Intel can sell then sell those features with prosumer branding.
broken sigil
basically they somehow managed to make them slower than last gen ๐คทโโ๏ธ
that takes skill, have to admit
regal pecan
Evidently the size of the die is huge compared to the last gen, perhaps because they did a quick port moving the 10nm chip back to 14+++++ so that they'd have something to release.
Also the 11900 is 8-core. The 10900 is 10-core. Accounts for most of the performance difference. Core for core I don't think it's actually slower.
cursive crypt
I kinda knew the time I heard it is a kinda pre-eliminary design. Just to have something to show.
Likely the sweet deal will be in a release or two max.
normal prism
Likely the sweet deal will be in a release or two max.
At which point AMD will have stomped them again ๐
cursive crypt
So far AMD is <30% of the game share on Steam. Not a small number in a way.
normal prism
So far AMD is <30% of the game share on Steam. Not a small number in a way.
Yeah, it's nice to see it grow
Bit more balance after years of intel domination
cursive crypt
Still stuck on that ship I suppose. Did that got fixed, btw?
normal prism
She's free ๐
cursive crypt
aww
pearl elk
you really need AVX512 when you got a GPU?
cursive crypt
gpu deving is pita in general
median wraith
Rolling Starter Pack V2
Does support multiplayer.
Rolling starter pack V3
Does not support multiplayer!
I thought marketplace items advance in versions to improve
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foggy path
https://earth2.io cash grab second life clone?
they have a Unity developer in their team, I wonder if that's their plan
median wraith
dafuk
cursive crypt
.... and I bet ppl will buy.
cursive crypt
they have a Unity developer in their team, I wonder if that's their plan
Their plan -> ๐ฐ ๐ธ
median wraith
So, working in gamedev you can create a family ?
here the people claims is nearly impossible
lol
foggy path
is that cheese stains
pearl elk
I feel like I should know what game that is
Thats actually a great place for a ramp overall, you can fly down there with a load and smash right into a pillar
and the props person came in and just added stuff all over
I think I see some electricals in range of where there would be an overhead fire sprinkler system ๐
hasty cargo
I see atleast 4 seperate switchboards in that one room
electrical planners didn't do their job
pearl elk
looks like a bank, just cut all those exposed wires, one of em has to be the security ๐
hasty cargo
probably why they robbing it ๐
I watched that rebirth thing again from megascans, inspired me to have another go with their assets and once again I'm finding it difficult to make them look any good in ue4, currently the kitedemo rocks render better for me
pearl elk
Why would you steal $20s
hasty cargo
using lod0 and even 8k albedo they seem to lack definition
need 20 bucks to upgrade pistol to rob a better bank
pearl elk
lol that pistol is worth more than this bank
foggy path
Rainbow Six Siege would be my guess on that game
median wraith
Thats it
Twitter
In Australia they do strange things
:p
Waves generator there
foggy path
wonder how many people playing the R6 games have actually read the original book
I have, it was okay :D
pearl elk
cmon none of em know who Tom Clancy even is ๐
foggy path
that is likely lol
sage tendon
isnt that the guy from Ghost Recon?
median wraith
lol
foggy path
that's Captain Sparkles
pearl elk
I think The Sum of All Fears is my fav
but theres alot of build up until that point, Jack Ryan is a cool character
hasty cargo
hunt for red october was a great moofie
carmine frigate
its cunt isnt it?
pearl elk
sage ermine
well I WAS going to ask one of the epic people something but I guess I'll wait until this thread scrolls up a little bit
pearl elk
thread rippin, in ya jocks hard enough to blow ya socks off
theres my contribution to the effort ๐
hasty cargo
epic slackers though
sage tendon
Unreal
normal prism
cursive crypt
Impressive ๐
median wraith
@zinc matrix did you played the Tomb Raider survival ?
That was decent arcade mode
meeeehhh
pearl elk
I played Shadow of the Skywalker
median wraith
i played rise of the tombraider
were that one I think
median wraith
orgasmic*
carmine frigate
it was like lara croft the snuff film
prolly dont wunna google that if u dont know what it means
i know the term from a movie with
think it was 9mm but not sure, also i didnt like it much
median wraith
people trying to give feedback for mediocre showcases in marketplace
the the creator reply he won't change it, despite you cannot see the items
๐ค
pearl elk
8mm I think that movie was
pearl elk
might as well just go .50 cal
fathom wadi
did you know that until the internet, there were very few snuff movies in existence? They were more of a myth than anything. Obviously people taped murders, but they weren't sold for pleasure which is the key labelling rule. However the internet changed that.
pearl elk
Cyberpunk 2077 changed it again
carmine frigate
hell i turned off that bodycam thing from that recent event
i was da fuck i aint watching this
and that was an official newspaper item
fathom wadi
when I first hit the internet and IRC, someone sent me a clip with a general name. When I opened it, it was a murder of a prisoner of war, extremely graphic and disturbing. The kind of stuff you don't unsee. That's when I stopped clicking random links.
carmine frigate
yea i remember 2 vids of the same sort
its really messed up
i can handle a lot of crap, straight up murder is not one of them
fathom wadi
yeah im a bit numb to it but sometimes you can't help but be disturbed by it. Anything with animals though.... im out
carmine frigate
somehow with all the news , footage of cities bombed to complete ash doesnt bother me as mush anymore
its just how ppl in other countries live
fathom wadi
war was sanitized in 1991 and again with Shock and Awe post millenium. Now we watch war on tv/internet like it's some kind of hollywood movie. The world is ass backward if you ask me
carmine frigate
hearts and minds ๐
fathom wadi
I ain't even telling you the worst thing I've been made to see. It's messed me up for years. still does.
fresh heath
carmine frigate
i would have quit at 20$
wonder if this pc can take a CD
it has a blueray opening, but i never had any blueray disks
i might have a cd somewhere
deep glen
https://aws.amazon.com/ru/blogs/gametech/splitting-the-atom-introducing-lumberyards-new-photorealistic-renderer/
why does it look like some of those lighting tests @median wraith did.
median wraith
Oh that scene is from Crytek team actually
Sponza but with the color curtains
is a common scene for light due it have occlusion areas and colorful textures
aside from the occluded areas I have to say the directional light and bounces looks kinda flat
it reminds me actually my test on Urho3D pre UE4
Oh lord
but the fact you remember my test hit me hard in the chest
ty man
rare sparrow
This is interesting https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/custom-motion-blur
tulip orbit
it looks a little blurry
humble remnant
When your custom character appears in a cutscene
thin glacier
So I just thought of a trolling opportunity for the minigun
The first time you get to use one, the fire rate is somewhere around 500 rounds/min
An NPC then notes that the battery or motor is worn down, then replaces it
It shouldnโt fire at all at that speed, so Iโll throw in the clutch as well. Something caused the springs to break, so thereโs nothing stopping it from engaging
thin glacier
Adobe what
thin glacier
@humble remnant what if I have a caseless Gast gun
Two barrels and actions. Theyโre directly linked so that one bolt opening closes the other
Then again, theyโd have to fire from a closed bolt, which you donโt want in a caseless automatic
Fuck it. Iโll stick with the computerized MG and go with .308 for the Gast gun
regal pecan
So I just thought of a trolling opportunity for the minigun
You let the player pick up the minigun. And then they fall over because it's so damned heavy.
Or you fire it and it looks awesome, and then you realize that's because it's all tracer rounds.
cursive crypt
It will be hard to drag that lazy ass out of there.
regal pecan
Couldn't have ordered a prebuilt WITH a GPU?
fluid bloom
why would anyone order a prebuilt?
smh
it took four months to ship, ordered this on 18th of december
regal pecan
why would anyone order a prebuilt?
Sometimes the cost works out in favor of the prebuilt, especially if you're getting a gpu from a scalper.
fluid bloom
why would you buy a gpu from a scalper?
when I ordered my GPU it cost 800 euros, that was in december too ๐
3080 rtx
sent an email to the store and asked if they're even getting any... according to their page the last shipment they got was in march and they got 5 pcs of them back then
unborn lotus
why would you buy a gpu from a scalper?
Shops here have higher prices than scalpers ๐ฌ
eternal stone
deep glen
anybody know where Kantan hangs out nowadays?
http://kantandev.com/
fluid bloom
@unborn lotus thankfully the prices were in 800 euro range in december when I ordered
now they're in 1500 range
unborn lotus
I know i know...when will they ever go back ๐
cursive crypt
Stores compete with scalpers nowadays. And ppl buy, so... it's fine ๐ฅ
fluid bloom
it's the vendors that have raised their prices too
cursive crypt
It's still a stonk. I was able to sell my old 5y old gpu for 75% of its original price and was one of the cheapest offers on the website.
dense storm
Warning: Attempted to access MaxRange via property MaxRange, but MaxRange is pending kill
o_0
dense storm
fluid bloom
thus, nosql was born
humble remnant
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That kind of shit is why I feel my code is less optimized than it should be because of IsValid everywhere
fathom wadi
anybody know where Kantan hangs out nowadays?
http://kantandev.com/
I'd like to know now also. His blog was instrumental in learning detail panel customizations back in the day
deep glen
he's also gone from my friends list :/
foggy path
he's got an email, twitter and linkedin on that site so oughta be able to get in touch via one of those methods?
deep glen
< such derp
pearl elk
I like json because I can use it to smash atoms together and get results
database systems you drop a feather and the whole thing falls over
primal spoke
Epic Games Store will incur estimated losses in the ballpark of $330 million from spending money on exclusives and free games
Pay the cost to be the boss I guess. NGL, Epic giving away free games always discouraged my dev efforts.
foggy path
Why?
torpid star
anybody got a good spotify playlist? spotify has been recommending the same songs for months now
pearl elk
Im not sure Id call it losses, to me losses are net
apparently Epic had made like 700m from Fortnite on Apple alone
cursive crypt
Yeah, heard it was a big loss from moving out of there.
pearl elk
I think the statement about Apple are far worse than the ones about Epic
A senior Apple engineer compared the defences of its App Store against malicious actors to โbringing a plastic butter knife to a gunfightโ
Im just sitting here on the other side of the wall laughing at the weeds growing in their garden ๐
stiff crystal
my PC parts have finally been shipped
yeah I noticed Jimms finally got tons of 5950X's
what's funny is that basically if you order today, you will get yours on next batch they get next week :p
I still hope they do some refresh from 5950X before they scrap AM4 socket... would be nice to get final upgrade on X570 before having to swap all parts again
last time they only refreshed 3800 and 3900
so there was no 3950XT
pearl elk
according to leaks there will be a Zen3+ before the socket change
stiff crystal
ah, that would be nice
pearl elk
6nm process, but the AM4 socket has a question mark
stiff crystal
my 3900x is fine, still bummed I didn't get the 16c part last time due to AMD postponing it
pearl elk
I got a 5950X at launch, for the retail price too ๐
but theres some issues with the X570 boards, AMD are still working on it. I need to try a beta bios to stop my USB fritzing out
cursive crypt
Up the bios, I'm also on x570 but haven't noticed issues with USB
However, my bios resets itself :/
After waking up from sleep
Rarely, but it does happen and is annoying, sync the time, restore the bios profile and etc operations need to be done.
pearl elk
well the new bios came out like a day ago, so hopefully it'll fix it
cursive crypt
Also Gigabyte suck ๐ They don't want to support AMDs profiling features.
pearl elk
I have a strange feeling like there might be a flaw with the X570 and they might make a new chipset before moving on
cursive crypt
Because of the USB?
pearl elk
its a power delivery issue which causes the USB fault but only with the new Ryzens
cursive crypt
Hmm... it is fresh PC, but I repeat didn't got issues with the USBs so far.
The vendor did released few bioses with fixes on that front tho - shows in their Change log
pearl elk
yeah its not something isolated to my rig I know that much ๐
it mainly showed up with a sata usb3 drive, my fans connected to usb2 have been behaving lately
I have like 300+ individual LEDs in my case so lots of controllers lol
Ive had issues with using the XMP profile for the Corsair RAM, I noticed lots of people use G.Skill with AMD builds because its rated but I wanted 32GB DIMMs and this is what I found
thats more of a BIOS thing, there was one beta one it worked, then I went to the full release and it stopped working again. MSI are shit lol
stiff crystal
I haven't had major issues on my x570 aorus elite
usb's work fine too but I dunno if the usb issue is related to 5000 series
pearl elk
In all honesty if everything went smoothly and worked perfect I would probably wake up, one day I'll retire from tech and not have to worry about dealing with it ๐
stiff crystal
there is one stupid thing though which is probably related to power regulation on this board and it's if I use windows power saving profile... it takes 10W less at desktop usage when it's enabled (but it really limits the perf on the cpu if you need to load it or even run game with it) but what I found myself is that I got random BSOD's with this power profile
once going to AMD ones, it's been stable but it's also more power hungry
torpid star
In all honesty if everything went smoothly and worked perfect I would probably w...
nonsense, u can never escape
stiff crystal
I thought this channel was put to the end of the list to be out of mods eyes!
pearl elk
nonsense, u can never escape
I will, Im going to live entirely off grid in a log cabin without so much as a GPS
pearl elk
I cant get Uber Eats where I live right now mate lol
torpid star
lol
pearl elk
but I could go shoot a cow I suppose
torpid star
u cant just shoot a cow
pearl elk
burgers for weeks
torpid star
wait so ur just gonna wait till a cow walks infront of ur cabin and shoot it?
pearl elk
lol we own them so its alright
torpid star
okay fine, u got food
torpid star
what about entertainment? without netflix/youtube u will die of boredom
๐
ur heart will stop beating the second u venture off the grid
has happened to me, can confirm
pearl elk
I heard of this ancient invention in my journies, they are called books
I will seek out these mythical objects and attempt to decypher their contents
torpid star
yeah but are they 10 minute videos filled with sponorship segways and ads? didn't think so
how will u know what to do buy
which patreon to follow
u'll be lost
pearl elk
trust me, I will find a vendor out there I can buy vanity items from
torpid star
One vanity pls
pearl elk
it'll be an old man with a goat selling blockbuster videos on DVD
torpid star
AHA! dvd needs electricity, how can u have power when ur off the grid
pearl elk
dust off my original Xbox and power up the generator which runs on Musk Juice
torpid star
the og xbox runs a weird version of windows, therefore u've re-entered the grid
pearl elk
my entire state actually ran off wind power few years back ๐
torpid star
how'd that work out for u?
torpid star
heck yeah, I'll listen to Tron Legacy anyday of the week
pearl elk
soft night
GTC keynote is starting
pearl elk
link? ๐ฎ
soft night
torpid star
I like my Tron music better, more pump up for tech
yeah too bad they split up
pearl elk
how is there no gifs of Obadiah Stane
I so laugh if AMD and Nvidia teamed up one year and made out like AMD CEO kidnapped Nvidias CEO in a corporate take over
and then he had to do GTC from her kitchen
soft night
Mons would you do stream from Kitchen?
pearl elk
my kitchen aint bad ๐
hell my bathroom is nice too, I could go all bath bubbles and scented oils. Do some UE tech ASMR
oh baby look at the size of my Actor, those thick bounds mmm yeah
soft night
i have made a video from bathroom and it was for that ice bucket challenge