lounge

[humble remnant]

Pretty much the entirety of my project (except art assets) are from scratch

[pearl elk]

Im looking for more of a language like The Tell-tale Heart

[humble remnant]

Some of the things already part of the engine buuuuut

I like control

Custom projectiles and all that

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/whoop-whoop-woop-woohoo-yess-whoop-gif-17491891

[trail wedge]

LISP

[real palm]

@humble remnant it would seem that you should be using way more c++? guess all those BP exposed asset registry or object library related nodes really help.

Only mounting packs in c++ though...

[humble remnant]

There's no other way to mount them otherwise

Pak discovery still in BPs tho

[pearl elk]

yeah I guess that analogy works, Clojure wouldnt be bad but wheres that Java joke again?

[humble remnant]

It's just the content root mounting that's C++

Also soft references, hella of them

[real palm]

you probably just made a BP callable function for that, heh

[humble remnant]

Yep

Made my own Discord rich presence too

Hell, I even made custom commands exposed to BPs

[real palm]

Using any marketplace plugins?

[humble remnant]

For code I don't think so

[trail wedge]

Wow hadn't even heard of Clojure, what a weird overlap. I learned LISP like 20 years ago from a book that was already old and pretty much never used it after playing around a bit.

[humble remnant]

Rama's BP nodes are a blessing

Or, if I'm using any external plugin for code, I've modified those too

[broken sigil]

Rama's stuff is great to get started but it's full of bad practices and questionable code (no offense to them)

[humble remnant]

Sure saves me some work for those few niche nodes

I don't use majority of it however

[trail wedge]

I got lost on many a wild goose chase with some of Rama's code (not his fault things changed) but lots of his snippets have been a huge help

[humble remnant]

It's just a few nodes whose C++ implementation might take too long for me to deem worth

[pearl elk]

Its just the way it is, its because youre following Rama on his adventures

[trail wedge]

Well it's mostly his adventures happened several versions ago

[broken sigil]

yeah I remember a long time ago looking up how to write to a texture and seeing his code, and later finding out that there is a much easier way of doing it

[humble remnant]

His custom config nodes were of help, though I will admit I mostly use modified nodes for my case

[trail wedge]

That but threads

[pearl elk]

To be fair Epic havent even got that nailed either, some of their tutorials dont contain best practises

[real palm]

many

[broken sigil]

true

[trail wedge]

No offense to anybody but the community is better than Epic at providing info most of the time

[broken sigil]

^

[humble remnant]

Still waiting for a BP threads plugin that doesn't crash the engine within 15 seconds of PIE

[real palm]

oof

[pearl elk]

Thats because the better programmers are probably busy writing code not technical documents

[eternal stone]

Can anyone help me in #ue4-general

[real palm]

or you could not do threading

[humble remnant]

But I have a kphjillion units (actors)

Sure would help to thread those

[real palm]

You have to be super specific about it, since BP expects to be on GT

[humble remnant]

I'll probs be running like damage calculations on a separate thread and that's about it

[eternal stone]

Can anyone help me in #ue4-general

:l

[broken sigil]

These days when I'm working on something and not sure how to do it I can just look at the engine source
Writing to texture would take less than 2 minutes to find an example

[humble remnant]

But for now it's been decently smooth even on single thread

[real palm]

@eternal stone only if you ask again

also I don't know the answer

[pearl elk]

Thankfully there are alot of plugins to reference these days

[trail wedge]

Probably true I don't doubt for one second that's why the docs suck. One of my favorite things brought to the table with Java was the creation of Javadoc so that comments could become docs.

I know UE uses something similar. It's not crazy to think one day they could just have a few devs improve the comments to generate better docs; would go a long way to helping IMO.

[humble remnant]

Except for Kinect

There's like nothing to make full use of a Kinect

[real palm]

I love just being able to find stuff in source code on my own.

Trade off there is that sometimes I use something that hasn't been tested and has a bug in it. And the bug is from like eons ago.

[pearl elk]

Is it just me or do people use some sort of parser to strip extra comments out of UE CPP?

[real palm]

Because I'm the only one who has found it and reported it

[real palm]

hm?

[eternal stone]

I see. I am new to unreal thats y im having problems

[trail wedge]

Finding stuff in source on your own is awesome I would never want that to be gone

[real palm]

Water plugin stuff is new too

[pearl elk]

Its just most code Ive seen, even plugins on github seem to lack comments. They are there but extremely thin and theres not much in the way of debug code which makes it feel like its been stripped to keep the source clean. I guess it feels sanitised, my code even what I put on github is rough, comments everywhere, test code in there all the junk lol

[broken sigil]

Threading with Actor is fine if you are using something like parallel for loop where all threads needs to complete before the code execution can continue, and reading writing custom thread safe data on the object
Still parallel execution shouldn't enter the BPs through events and similar, only native code

Otherwise if the thread is gonna be running for a long time in parallel I usually have a proxy object exist only on the other thread which mimics the real object, like what the rendering thread does

[trail wedge]

"Its just most code Ive seen, even plugins on github seem to lack comments." This is true for all of programming....

[real palm]

I'd guess they just write code like that Mons

[trail wedge]

I'm here championing comments and I never write any on code only I will see

[pearl elk]

I write comments for myself, good practises ftw

[trail wedge]

I write comment for others, I can read my own code

[real palm]

but often comments are sparse

[humble remnant]

I have the disgusting habit fueled by BPs

[real palm]

our codebase at work encourages comments but sometimes there aren't any

[broken sigil]

I don't write many comments but I try to make functions and member names self explanatory

[humble remnant]

If I look at a BP I know the reason for every node's existence even without a comment

[trail wedge]

That's why I don't write any comments on personal code, I do the same thing and they aren't needed

[real palm]

it kind of depends on what sort of thing I'm writing

[humble remnant]

But when I look at code I wrote yesterday I'd wonder why a line is in there

[pearl elk]

well comments should say why something is not what something is

[real palm]

sometimes I let the symbols speak for themselves, other times I need to clarify

[pearl elk]

as you say, you can read the code

[humble remnant]

Photogenic memory is a curse in disguise

[pearl elk]

you go back to your old code like "why the hell did I..." 3 hrs later "ooooooh!" there ya go, comment saved 3hrs 😛

[broken sigil]

My only use for comments is if I have a very long function, I then add comments to sections of it to explain what it does

[trail wedge]

The comments I was talking about for doc purposes aren't short ones though, I mean long detailed descriptions for all functions in the header as a block

[real palm]

@trail wedge you can do javadoc comments for ufunctions and it maps to tooltips. Even if you comment from the BP editor

it's really cool sometimes

[regal pecan]

Erm. Photogenic?

[trail wedge]

Yup, I said I knew they were using something similar to Javadoc. Don't know the actual generator library and too lazy to look it up 😛

I like how they took it the extra step and put them on tool tips too

[broken sigil]

probably meant photographic memory

[regal pecan]

Probably. I'm willing to entertain the alternative.

[trail wedge]

No they thought their memory looks good in photos

[real palm]

just the worlds most photorealistic memory

[humble remnant]

Yeah, in my language the direct translation is "photogenic"

Why must you do this to me

[broken sigil]

photogenic memory also sounds cool, I want some

[trail wedge]

Photogenic means attractive when their image is captured just fyi

[humble remnant]

I just saw after I oogled

[real palm]

there's another word which might translate better for this

Unhelpfully I don't remember it

[humble remnant]

Eidetic is a synonym

[trail wedge]

just curious what's your first language? Sadly I only really speak one myself

[humble remnant]

Bulgarian

[trail wedge]

Prety cool must be daytime where you are huh?

[humble remnant]

Almost morning

[trail wedge]

1am here

[humble remnant]

Well, 7 AM, but my sleep schedule is completely COVID

I haven't slept during the night for a long while

[broken sigil]

ah I see someone else with a completely messed up sleep schedule lol

[trail wedge]

COVID just made everybody else live my life and complain about it all day

[humble remnant]

But I can feel my eyes closing and the amount of typos increasing

And yeah

[pearl elk]

sleep schedule is being abit kind in my case lol

[humble remnant]

Since COVID I've simply had no reason to wake up in time

[broken sigil]

I go to bed usually at 11-12am and wake up at 7pm lol
Haven't seen the sun properly in a good while 😐

[humble remnant]

Soooooo I'm basically like

"I'll go to bed early today...

... Is that the sun?"

[trail wedge]

I go to bed around 4-9am and wake up around 9am-1pm (depends when I went to sleep)

[humble remnant]

I always hope to be asleep by the time daylight breaks through but it never ends up like that

[broken sigil]

I try to get at least 7 hours of sleep, any less than that and I feel like ass

[trail wedge]

Sometimes I might take a nap but it's rare

[humble remnant]

Same for me here

[trail wedge]

4am-12n seems most typical for me and that's 8 hours right?

[humble remnant]

Pretty much

[broken sigil]

also I literately can't go to bed at normal times, if I wake up before 5 pm I don't feel well all day
I'm dizzy, my head hurt, I feel sick, can't eat, etc...

[trail wedge]

If I goto bed at 9am tho.. gotta be short can't waste the whole day 😛

[humble remnant]

I sometimes wake up on 4 hours of sleep, all by myself

And I'm fresh as a smoothie

[trail wedge]

If I'm not tired I'll just lay there bored

[humble remnant]

But other days I end up not even hearing my alarm and powersleeping for 12 hours

And I wake up feeling like minced buttcheeks

I wish I got more of the former

[trail wedge]

Try a coffee nap: drink a cup of coffee and go to sleep immediately if you can. Most people I know that have tried it wake up in about 3 hours and feel totally refreshed

[humble remnant]

That don't work for me

I can't fall asleep fast

I have at least 30 minutes of rolling around before I end up asleep

[trail wedge]

I can't either so I do it when I'm already about to fall over

[humble remnant]

And within 30 minutes the caffeine kicks in and now it's cursed

I get startled by random things so a coffee won't help

[trail wedge]

that's why you need to fall asleep fast because you're right 30 mins is the normal caffeine activation time

oh well was an idea

[real palm]

could do a caffeine pill right when you are about to doze off

might be easier to fall asleep

[trail wedge]

that too

[humble remnant]

I get freshened up if I drink anything

So that's also cursed

[real palm]

Ah

FWIW I also can't do coffee naps

[humble remnant]

Anyway I'll try to sleep now

I can't keep both eyes open anymore

[trail wedge]

They have Melatonin CBD gummies that work great if you can't get to sleep but they would keep you out for a good 8 hours

[humble remnant]

I tried one of those for a while but they caused me to be super tickly and wake up half-paralysed

Not fun

[trail wedge]

oof

I think it's the same basic idea

[humble remnant]

Anyway I'm out

[trail wedge]

night

[humble remnant]

Hopefully gonna pop back up tomorrow

[real palm]

I'm headed that way, hopefully.

at least earlier wake up time

never well rested tho

[trail wedge]

You've heard of #lounge in #cpp but what about #cpp in #lounge ?

I tore my project apart into plugins.... Now I can't get Paper2D to link with one that depends on it.

I added it to Modules[AdditionalDependencies] in the uplugin the same as I originally had in my uproject

I added it into my plugin's .Build.cs in PublicDependencyModuleNames like it originally was in my project's .Build.cs

Didn't link.

I also tried adding it to Plugins in my uplugin no luck there either

Seems like I'm missing something incredibly stupid on my part

[real palm]

the worst part about this is that I can't redirect you and cite off topicness

this is the off topic place

[trail wedge]

mwhahahahahahaha

[real palm]

anyway

[trail wedge]

technically this is a c# question

[real palm]

Nothing is jumping to mind. You got the uplugin listing modules and plugins, you got the build.cs listing the module dependency

I'd list specific link errors, but this might just be a silly slip somewhere

[trail wedge]

Might just stare at it again tomorrow until I feel blind for missing the mistake

[real palm]

post in #cpp when you're ready to tackle it

also

[trail wedge]

yeh I know just felt like being a joker

[real palm]

this isn't a c# question, it's a UBT question

[trail wedge]

well yeh that's more accurate, I meant more since it was the Build.cs file

[pearl elk]

plugins 🙂

no longer an additional dependency Id say, projects work slightly different to plugins

[trail wedge]

Got it working... needed to be in my game's .Build.cs in addition to the plugin's.

I didn't realize it was needed in both places and had moved it out of my game's into my plugin's

[regal pecan]

meanwhile I'm renaming "distanceMnht" to "dMnht" and pretending it's readable

I know what it means today and that's what's important.

[pearl elk]

Manhattan Distance?

[regal pecan]

bingo

[pearl elk]

17,121 km approximately

[regal pecan]

I think that went to the wrong channel

Correction: 142 seconds from my brain to the joke

[pearl elk]

my favourite is still FatController

[regal pecan]

Error 5138008

I'll get there eventually

[pearl elk]

and for the short trace, SharTraceResult?

[regal pecan]

"28 code results in EpicGames/UnrealEngine " impressed

[pearl elk]

I try really hard not to obfuscate these days, autocomplete is good enough that it doesnt really save time

mind you that said, BP is kinda bad at auto-completion these days. It used to be alright but somewhere along the line it started getting super messy

I try to name things so that in the first few letters you've narrowed the field quite significantly

[cursive crypt]

Someone said ctrl+click opens the c++ code, but that does not work for me half the time. Or maybe even more 🤔

... or maybe I was trying dbl click instead... hmm, let me check.

Yea, its just selection 🤷‍♂️

Also it seems I was trying in the anim bp and there it does not work.

[carmine frigate]

got a bit fed up with the oculus store launching on my non VR project.... I disable all oculus plugins

now both oculus and steam VR start when i boot the project 😛

[solid aurora]

The build system sometimes is bit incosistent

if it is in Public of module it should propagate to other modules

unless that module is game module

[foggy path]

Looks like they just copied the Oculus Rift controllers 🤔

which is not a bad thing, they are quite good

[pearl elk]

Gotta be better than the ancient junk they were using before

[pearl pewter]

Im trying to contact the producer "zomboy" to ask for licencing his music in my game but i can't find any contact info. Does anyone know how one reaches out to him or the manager?

[foggy path]

There's a phone number on his twitter, have you tried calling it? lol

[pearl pewter]

No response.. 😢

but thanks

at least so far

[foggy path]

could try seeing which label he publishes music under, especially the one the music you're interested in licensing are published under

labels are often the ones who handle licensing and distribution

[proud pier]

Lounge is no-devs-lands now

[soft night]

Lounge is in the bottom of the sink now

[normal prism]

No github, someone is just trying to hack my account

[timber viper]

Is GTX660 considered as low-end these days?

[median wraith]

Could be yeah

thats like 5 gens ago

[carmine frigate]

thats an old high end

[median wraith]

thats like a 1050GTX

[normal prism]

I wouldn't call a 60 series high end, even at launch

Mid range

[carmine frigate]

i have 1 and the thing is huge

[normal prism]

8.5 years old at this point, antique

😛

[carmine frigate]

wil stil prolly get u 100+ fps fortnite on 1080p

[median wraith]

@normal prism well there are no new GPUs to buy

it still

😂

I thought these were newer

[cursive crypt]

Radeons are kinda more abundant.

[median wraith]

seems like still there are no units in the store

and I start to be worried about

[cursive crypt]

If you think this silicon crisis will be done soon, better change your mind.

tbh, I don't know myself, but seems general expectations are like an year+

[median wraith]

silicon ? there are not even bikes or other products

still 1 year later

[cursive crypt]

lol, ok

Maybe bikes are chipped and we didn't knew.

[median wraith]

lol

[fluid bloom]

two hours and nobody has said anything on lounge? Weird 😛

[cursive crypt]

lmao, someone forgot to delete the template from his MP page:

[soft night]

7hours past and lounge is nowhere to be seen

[foggy path]

Three games I've had on my steam wishlist randomly came on steam today 🤔

is it some kind of special release your game today -day

[median wraith]

there is people in the marketplace selling contents thats clearly copied from someone

because name some features against a total different engine feature

[solid aurora]

Idle Champions of The Forgotten Realms

[median wraith]

like Tessellation is a witchcraft generated by Distance Fields 😂

[solid aurora]

is most evil game ever created

I probabaly have more time played in it, than any other -;-

[humble remnant]

The 660 was never a high end tho was it

It was just good enough for the price

[pearl elk]

I vote to change "Compiling Shaders" to "Throwing Shade"

[carmine frigate]

it should just spit out what its compiling

so i can just do it by hand next time

[deep glen]

lol

[pearl elk]

Im 184 years old and I still compile my own shaders

[carmine frigate]

😛

its a shit job but i just decided to do it

[pearl pewter]

when shader compile

when 5 shader left

[torpid star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzk7BSKkDwc

is posting half life memes in this discord blasphemy

[cursive crypt]

That was one freaking long stream.

Interesting tho

[soft night]

super long

[pearl elk]

Snyder Cut is super long

[sage ermine]

It still boggles my mind that UE4 can't save the visibility of objects in the hierarchy in the scene file

[foggy path]

Yeah the one feature from Unity that I'd kinda like to have is how you can just turn stuff on and off easily

Handy for testing and debugging sometimes to be able to just turn things off from the level

[sage ermine]

Also handy when you're trying to work with a datasmith imported cad model of a helicopter with a jillion polys

And you have to go and turn off the same systems everytime you load the scene just to get a double digit frame rate

[pearl elk]

could use layers

[zinc matrix]

lol this is exactly my interaction system rn

[zinc matrix]

working on that now actually

[regal pecan]

Also works on real life. Take cap off container. Put container in trash. Drink from cap.

[sharp beacon]

If i may ask, is there a discord server or channel for Robo Recall?

[sharp beacon]

Player

[sharp beacon]

I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.

[deep glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHw91AvC5q0

[carmine frigate]

those faces turn into a complete mess when exported to blender, so no 😛

lets use bones instead of vertex 😛

they also mix and match naming convention, mirror bones is not goin to work out of the box

paragon stuff also switch naming convention for the face

good thing exporting is more easy than shader compiling, goes faster when done by hand

[turbid spindle]

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[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/that-escalated-quickly-gif-13528303

[cursive crypt]

Aliens?

[deep glen]

https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/17/dlss-unreal-engine/

[cursive crypt]

Ree... everyone on the dlss train.

[median wraith]

You need a gpu with RT for that isn't it?

[cursive crypt]

... and locked for NVidia fans only.

The true vendor.

Supposedly, AMD will try this year (?) to provide alternative.

Afaik, not at all.

[median wraith]

I'm in the phone with 720 mode and can spot the differences there, the AI is destroying the bloom effects trying to do sharp, and the sharps cuz the rescale

Still isn't much if gives a x2 boost

[cursive crypt]

Well... twice less resolution, twice the FPS

Realtime upscaling

But tbh, only purists will care. Just dump these jpegs

[median wraith]

Yeah did ever show DLSS in a racing game?

[polar pebble]

i also thought they said during the last live stream that its not Nvidia only

[deep glen]

hmm hard question in #ue4-general from someone who comes from unity, any smartsypants here that can answer it?

@polar pebble thanks for the boost btw, just saw it happen

[polar pebble]

it'll run out at some point but i just saw you needed 2 and i had 2 boosts haha

[deep glen]

aww

https://giphy.com/gifs/ufc-mma-ufc-205-3o6Zt6KHxJTbXCnSvu

[polar pebble]

i think its next month 7th it runs out

enjoy it while it lasts 😄

is the new 4.26.1 stable enough?

i know its only preview 1

[median wraith]

I don't think that DLSS plugin works with amd

But can't put that on rock

[deep glen]

@polar pebble its ok, but has some annoying little tidbits like new variables in the material editor starting at sorting order 32 instead of 0

[polar pebble]

haha thats weird

i just need to update engine to check if something is fixed for switch 😭

[deep glen]

in the end it doesnt matter that much as you'd change em anyways, but still

[median wraith]

Okay now that you said it can confirm and I was confused lol

[pearl elk]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/performance/gopc.html

lol Intel, why couldnt they do this during the console wars

[median wraith]

Did Intel fixed their security problem?

The one that took the performance of my CPU away 🤔

[pearl elk]

you wont ever get that back, its a hardware fault

[median wraith]

They even control who is using their api

🤣

Yeah this just work with series 2 and 3 of Nvidia

@polar pebble @deep glen there you go

[polar pebble]

ah okay

~~i cant find the repo for 4.26.1-release on github :/ ~~ found it

[median wraith]

Actually seems to don't work properly with DOF

And I didn't managed to setup the new DOF tbh

[pearl elk]

why do you need AA if youre just gonna blur the image 🙂

I have a strange feeling like AMDs version of DLSS will be abit more like their edge AA method rather than a full screen. It'll require a higher resolution base image before upsampling but that'll be okay since theyre better than nvidia at those resolutions

[cursive crypt]

Well, I can be sure it will suck, but it will exist.

[pearl elk]

not so sure about the suck, Im guessing it'll be great with RT off perhaps even using RT hardware for the upscaling

That would actually give AMD a huge advantage in RT off instances as they already match Nvidia pretty well in that department

[cursive crypt]

Nah, until I don't see, won't believe it.
It is not for the first time their tooling to suck (looking at you uprof)

[pearl elk]

Arnt Nvidia the ones releasing broken drivers these days 😛

[cursive crypt]

To hell with both then 😄

[pearl elk]

Yup Im buying an Intel GPU

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hilarious-lol-funny-gif-10516499

at this rate Apple is going to have raytracing before Intel hehehe

[cursive crypt]

Intel GPU 🤔

They smell the market, but I doubt they will target high perf.

I think I saw some speculated specs, just mid range.

[hasty cargo]

intel 🤝 nvidia

they share common enemy

[pearl elk]

I think Nvidia is on ARMs side 😛

[median wraith]

Adidas (?)

🤖

[hasty cargo]

lol

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dab-adidas-swag-cool-man-gif-17245404

[hasty cargo]

get excited for dlss----(requires tensor cores)

https://giphy.com/gifs/SkyTV-lies-rubbish-filch-Lr3RZl7gkhd5BWZ5Nh

[pearl elk]

I prefer relaxah cores

[hasty cargo]

chillcore

[pearl elk]

as opposed to grillcore

https://gameplay.intel.com/igcc

lol Graphics Command Center

[hasty cargo]

heh throw it on the heap with the 50 different launchers you need these days

[pearl elk]

I need a launcher for my launchers launcher

[hasty cargo]

actual reality, i got gta5 going recently with egl

then I needed to install 2 different rockstar launchers

so loading the game goes egl > rockstar launcher > rockstar social club > game

[pearl elk]

lol yup I did that not so long ago too

[hasty cargo]

game is free so cant complain too much, but I owned it on ps3 and that was a simple as put in disc, play

[pearl elk]

Looked like crap to me so I uninstalled it lol

100GB for PS3 graphics

[median wraith]

the good old Intel Raytracing back in 2008

I have no clue about why missed that step

[hasty cargo]

its still a bit of a technical marvel it ran well on ps3, the resolution sucks but the environment, particularly the desert looks pretty pleasing

[median wraith]

you could technically release 320p games this days with super realistic graphics

[pearl elk]

320p is too high 144p

[hasty cargo]

good for the people still playing with a sony trinitron 😄

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... 240p was my lowest I think

[pearl elk]

just train DLSS on a better game and voila

[soft night]

Finland is the fourth time in a row the happiest country

[pearl elk]

deepfake game

[cursive crypt]

That's very unhappy fact.

[soft night]

AMD dont have similar as DLSS yet

[hasty cargo]

I don't understand the tensor core stuff, but is it a real requirement for dlss / machine learning tech or can it be achieved on a standard processor

[soft night]

its like FPGA thing inside it

[pearl elk]

tensor cores are optimised for matrix math which happens to be good for AI data

it is abit annoying that Nvidia dont leave any room for game developers to utilise the hardware themselves. For instance if you wanted to use the tensor cores for game AI that might get in the way of DLSS support

Thats why I didnt bother with Nvidia, any sort of proprietary hardware they have becomes kinda moot in the grander scheme of things since you want to sell games to everyone

shame they couldnt release an AI card 😛

[soft night]

intel have done ai stuff in they CPU side

[pearl elk]

most new phones have some sort of AI in some form

[median wraith]

yeah mine thinks with beard and without beard I'm two different persons

[pearl elk]

Youre Superman and Hevedy 😮

[median wraith]

lol

[pearl elk]

I actually really want to see Nvidia Tegra with all the snazzy stuff, SoCs have some benefits you cant get from discrete GPUs

[soft night]

MonsyJetsons https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-systems/

[pearl elk]

If you have an all Nvidia platform its much easier to support their proprietary tech, you just build for that feature set and voila, any bugs you know are with that hardware

Atleast variable refresh and things like that are starting to become standard so it doesnt matter which hardware you have

[soft night]

the Justice league snyder cut is shorter timewise in nordic hbo than its in max hbo

because of that refreshrates

10 min shorter

[pearl elk]

Ive not actually seen a full Nvidia setup vs AMD setup side by side, it would be curious to see what impact gsync vs freesync, reflex vs anti-lag as well as comparing the image quality output at full 4k HDR1000 etc

not exactly something you can show on a youtube video 🙂

[hasty cargo]

what on earth is going on with hdd prices

[pearl elk]

Nas is worth more since he won a grammy 😛

[hasty cargo]

i usually try to get hitachi drives but even WD and seagate prices are through the roof

I find with WD and seagate after 1 year you are in the danger zone

[pearl elk]

yeah I noticed things are abit off now with all this rebranding

touches wood Ive never had a Seagate drive fail, WD I have, my HP which is Hitachi is going strong too

[hasty cargo]

all my seagates and WDs have failed

[carmine frigate]

to be honest drives never fail on me

[hasty cargo]

I even had a lacie external that died after a year, pulled it open, was a WD drive

but hitachi lasts like 10 years

[pearl elk]

SSD prices are pretty good, Im wondering if thats impacting HDD prices

[carmine frigate]

they just get too small and my computer can only hold so many 😛

[hasty cargo]

I usually run 2.5's inside the pc then have loose 3.5s

3.5 too big!

120 bucks for a 2tb WD blue

think I'm gonna pick up the 4tb hitachi I saw for 70 bucks at the 2nd hand shop

[pearl elk]

why not get a 2TB SSD instead 🙂

[hasty cargo]

I like things that make funny noises before the fail so I have time to rescue data 😛

[pearl elk]

that doesnt sound like a backup plan

[hasty cargo]

hmm it might be japan prices

amazon japan shows ~400 dollars for a 4tb hitachi

[pearl elk]

I can get an 8TB Seagate for $150aud off

[hasty cargo]

but amazon usa ~60 bucks

[carmine frigate]

just backup on paper

[median wraith]

I don't get why got 1TB micro SSDs but no 10TB SSDs ? 🤖

[pearl elk]

is it trade tensions between Japan and China causing electronics price inflation perhaps?

[median wraith]

maybe something fails if the whole world depends of them

[pearl elk]

I know the US and China had talks and they didnt go so well

[hasty cargo]

hmm

component prices are general higher by a decent margin in japan

but this seems off

[pearl elk]

seems off to me, if thats $400usd I can get a 16TB for that lol

[hasty cargo]

yeah lol

[soft night]

elon is donating for carbon capture technologies

[pearl elk]

I rang Elon last night, said to him you know you might be technoking but you'll never be techno viking

https://tenor.com/view/ragnar-vikings-gif-19720482

[median wraith]

todays is the fathers day here

I get congratulated only the toilets day

😂

[pearl elk]

Happy Birthday @median wraith

[median wraith]

lmao I missed that one

webs this days man

[pearl pewter]

In my game you can fall down

And there is something like a safing/rescue jump to get back up

Whats the proper way to call this?

Saving/Safing/Rescue Jump?

[soft night]

happy birthday from happiest country and you can check spain rank here too https://twitter.com/HappinessRpt/status/1372820569196990464?s=20

Happiness Report (@HappinessRpt)

In a Lamentable Year, Finland Again is the Happiest Country in the World https://t.co/jGzx81PEo2 via @HappinessRpt

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 8:01 AM

[median wraith]

Wait spain figures in any rank at this point ?

[pearl elk]

Coyote Jump?

[median wraith]

other than one with less remote work as they listed the other day

[median wraith]

Spain isn't listed

[pearl elk]

when are you ever happy Hevedy 😛

[median wraith]

hahaha

hey I'm happy usually

is just you cannot spot it

🤖

[pearl elk]

I dont blame you with all those Brits invading

[median wraith]

ha

Well I have to say here got a lot of Brit people recently for whatever reason it is

are cool dudes anyway

comes in pairs actually

[pearl elk]

if they are younger it cant be too bad, I live near a city which is basically a big retirement village, fun fun

[median wraith]

you just described my city

just isn't a retirement village

[pearl elk]

well my city is like many retirement villages, mostly older peoples

lots of holiday homes too

[median wraith]

@soft night oh I'm a hacker

managed to get the data

Venezuela in the top 100 in 2010

who made the rank ?

oh we are 400

[pearl elk]

http://happyplanetindex.org/countries/spain

says here youre higher than Australia 😮

[median wraith]

they mixed spain with mongolia

should have the colors inverted

Epic should port the LPV material solution to the SSGI

you have emissive materials that don't need light

[pearl elk]

just make it so we can light the entire thing with emissives

[hasty cargo]

still on 4.15, still got lpv 😛

the new water feature looks tempting though

and non destructive terrain editing is a massive temptation

[fathom wadi]

4.15? what made you stick on that version?

[median wraith]

@hasty cargo you got the one they gave for free in the markerplace

is technically the same

oh is for 4.25 no 4.15

I always read wrong the 2 and 1

my brain auto fills with the trending solutions

🤖

[hasty cargo]

haha

@fathom wadi there were many things that did not work right for me after 4.15.1 they made some rendering changes in 4.15.3 - 4.16

it's more of a balance of what stuff doesn't work in the new versions vs what new things I gain

it's getting a lot more annoying because many plugins can't be back ported now with all the rendering changes

[fathom wadi]

I see. I asked because around that time I was hoping for updates. From 4.13 to 4.19 no version sat right with me 🙂

[hasty cargo]

yeah I sat on 4.11 for the longest time

[pearl elk]

4.3 is the best version

[fathom wadi]

got to say the current version is the best for sure. Not just for extra features or fixes, but purely because it's actually looking like it be the next-gen engine. Rather than just bolting on effects that makes it feel like a visual-generation.

[hasty cargo]

4.26?

I think I will attempt a 4.26 build when I get time, last build I tried was 4.23, it was nice but not worth the headaches

I do like how lighting looks with the newer versions, they did something with the lights or tonemapper to give better neutral lighting results with less mucking around

was 100% going to upgrade if chaos had a cylinder collision shape but they have the same limitation there like phyx with only capsules, spheres and boxes

[humble remnant]

For 4.26 I myself have a problem that the more times I start PIE the more FPS issues in editor I have

But I suspect it's something that isn't exactly the engine's fault

Yeah, I think I may have doofused on something else

I'll need to see what it is because the performance gets unbearable after like 30 minutes

During PIE it's fine, but after I stop it just falls off a cliff

[fathom wadi]

I've not seen such a solid engine version since 4.19 tbh. That editor framerate lag has been there a couple of versions tho.

[pearl elk]

I have some suspicions theres issues with the new audio system, not that windows 10 helps in that department

[zinc matrix]

look at me

[humble remnant]

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stare-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-shocked-wide-eye-gif-14648637

[tulip orbit]

hah, sounds like you're getting a bone transplant 😉

doubtful

[humble remnant]

After typing a kphjillion stat commands

Turns out Chaos is the thing that takes up those frames

Gonna download the Chaos specific branch and see if that fixes anything

It does seem to be more updated than the main branch

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/HqA8t/31cfe673ce.jpg

well thats an odd way to have a nap

[humble remnant]

The scorpion pose

[cursive crypt]

That interface reminds me of Ubisoft. What is this game?

[humble remnant]

Isn't that Watch Dogs Legion?

[median wraith]

That looks like

[pearl elk]

lol its Watch Dogs Legion

infact now I think about it, lots of these odd posed dead bodies Ive seen are Ubisoft games

The vehicle physics are pretty odd in Watch Dogs games too

[cursive crypt]

I have no such impression, but I have played only like the Division and Far Cry 5 I think.

[pearl elk]

Farcry Ive seen heaps of physics oddities but Ive played em all

[cursive crypt]

Haha... weird to say this about it. I kinda haven't noticed anything odd there. Maybe sometimes it was off, but in a fun way.

[pearl elk]

Yeah I tend to just laugh it off especially when its dead bodies

[cursive crypt]

Yea, one religious dude and his lambs.

Nice cinematic, very nice.

It is open world thingie, with a lot of comedy and some smart piggy backing on certain culture.

Also, it allowed me to know Montana better.

Yeah, lmao, that cute teddy.

Hmm... humour was nice really. Haha, I remember.

[pearl elk]

I havent played much of 5 but I got it cheap so I was gonna give it a bash before 6 comes out, which I got with my CPU

[cursive crypt]

It is quite scalable. I know a dude played with on a PC with only 4 gb ram

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix my wife is the world's top expert on Farcry 5 outside of Ubisoft themselves, and she would own most Ubi employees on the game. So much that she even learned to mod it so she could find all the hidden stuff and deprecated areas etc. I've seen her complete it at least 20 times. No shit.

[cursive crypt]

Ha! Now I remember you and your wife being a fan - haha.

[fathom wadi]

Im not particularly. I only did the first zone. Then I knew it was just more of the same + cutscenes :/

Its better than I give it credit for tho

What I do know, is I fkin hate that menu music and the song "Only You" now. They have been brainwashed into me.

[cursive crypt]

That was the point of the game man...

[pearl elk]

that tends to be the issue with open worlds, repetitive and lots of dead space

[cursive crypt]

Just be careful what you listen to while riding.

Nah, that game is fine.

[fathom wadi]

oddly enough I heard The Platters play Only you live in concert. They were amazing.

[cursive crypt]

Especially with mods 😛

[pearl elk]

I hated the in vehicle music, hopefully 5 doesnt have an annoying radio host you cant turn off

[cursive crypt]

You can switch them or turn it off.

[pearl elk]

in 3 and 4 you cant, such an odd thing

[cursive crypt]

Kinda interesting tho to listen sometimes, it gives some narrative.

Anyway, try it out. Think this was one of the 3 games I played last year - happy with it.

[pearl elk]

I dont mind listening to it but the 10th repetition of the narrative stuff its like shuuuuudap

I can certainly appreciate why they wouldnt spend a fortune on making heaps of radio content

[cursive crypt]

You gotta love some Fallout 4 mods. At some point I had like 50+ radio stations? Including some radio shows which were damn interesting I remember, listening to one like for 4 hours straight - story for some Survival gang.

[fathom wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deh9EXQ7Dv8 my friend's new song just dropped on Youtube. Check out this badboy.

[foggy path]

that's pretty good

one of my friend's latest songs also released quite recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZq_J_TNCEw

[humble remnant]

Nope, latest Chaos branch does not fix the editor performance

What is going on

Disabling realtime preview fixed it

Viewport

I suspect that something in Chaos is just stacking up whenever you exit PIE

Since it's the only stat where the tick time rose

Now the downside is that I don't see my particle effects

But at least there's a lead to the culprit

Daft bastard

[median wraith]

noice

[cursive crypt]

.4 - 1.9 triangles?

Millions?

[median wraith]

yeah

[cursive crypt]

What is that mesh? A city?

[median wraith]

and 50 materials in the mesh

[cursive crypt]

Nah

[median wraith]

gym equipment

[humble remnant]

Looks promising

[cursive crypt]

Well... if it is ArchViz then I can more or less accept, dudes don't care about optimizations usually.

I mean, if a pillow is not above 50k then something is wrong.

In any case, all models must include tris/shader complexity/materials/lods and etc info.

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1372972283145433100

Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic)

Putting the Fortnite into PUBG!
Go Apple marketing team! https://t.co/ZxX84IXK0w

Likes

1212

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 6:04 PM

Well technically Epic put PUBG into Fornite before

🤖

so no worries here

We will discover this games are actually APB Reloaded at some point

but thats kinda sad from Apple side tbh

[unkempt kindle]

@dull epoch So 1,2,3 are variables and you do smth like

std::cin >> Var1 >> Var2 >> Var3;

?

[dull epoch]

no

i figured it out though now actually

[unkempt kindle]

Alright xD

[dull epoch]

that gave me the ide

[eternal hearth]

Just wanted to share this cool thing - we donated the launch proceeds of our latest game, and it was great to see it get into good hands!
https://twitter.com/HourADayGamer/status/1373010833308069889?s=20

HourADayGamer #IWOCon (@HourADayGamer)

I want to personally thank everyone who donated to help support my local High School football team! You all donated a total of $400! I can’t thank you enough, and Coach can’t either! This will help us to have continued success in the coming seasons!

#IndieWorldOrder #indie

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 8:37 PM

[cursive crypt]

lol, Bill Gates does AMA on Reddit as of now

[fathom wadi]

"Dear Bill, I recently installed windows 10 that came with Edge. I used it once to install Chrome. My question is, why do you want us all to get microchipped via vaccines that have Windows 7 still installed?"

[carmine frigate]

good question, its cuz apple hacked win10 😛

also we are one of the few tech firm that doesnt have nanobots in your blood yet

im pretty sure the apple nanobots are fighting the intel nanos atm

microsoft wants to support intel i think

im all up for a big dose of microsoft bots into my blood, i dont trust apple 😛

[cursive crypt]

lol

[carmine frigate]

its hard to worry about chips in my blood when i have 3 facebook camera pointed at me

[regal pecan]

But if there are chips in my blood why do I never have enough cell coverage

[zinc matrix]

mcdonalds better in your blood than crinkle cut

[carmine frigate]

well clearly those nanobots have better antennas

[regal pecan]

brb getting vaccine so I can use futuristic antennas

[carmine frigate]

im gunna ask if they can inject me in the ass so i wont get a numb arm 😛

[regal pecan]

Sore thigh, great idea. Trying to think of an appendage that you don't use for several days in a row.

[carmine frigate]

i hear junkies shoot between the toes

that should be the spot

[zinc matrix]

They also inject in groin

[carmine frigate]

i dont think so

[regal pecan]

"It's numb when I pee."

[zinc matrix]

Bad if it goes rotten

[regal pecan]

Why would it go rotten? More likely it uses the microchips to surf porn, letting the rest of your body do real work.

[carmine frigate]

it would be nice if the virus went away 😛

[soft night]

UnrealIVirus is spreading and its the V right

[red pewter]

World blender day in 3 hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4n2Cuj2fAk

[regal pecan]

Who likes blender?

I upgraded to 2.8 from 2.6 something and everything changed. Screeching

[foggy path]

so I heard... I never really used it much pre 2.8 so the main issue I run into is googling for info and half of it is for older versions and none of the shortcuts work the same way anymore :D

[regal pecan]

Apart from the UI reorganizing everything seems the same plus a few features, but then I haven't touched about 80% of Blender (everything from texture paint to compositing). The hotkeys though... Double-tapping A to deselect is stretching my neuroplasticity.

[unborn lotus]

just use the industry standard keymap

[cursive crypt]

Eww...

[unborn lotus]

haha I made my own pie menus that mimic Maya's so it's like 95% the same, a lot more manageable

[red pewter]

yeah that double tapping a thing is some Zbrush gigabrained UI design

[cursive crypt]

Double Tap is for toggling, just use Alt + A ?

[regal pecan]

I'm just so used to being able to tap it lazily instead of having to hastily double tap.

[pearl elk]

le sigh

[dusk cloud]

happy nowruz/new year to whoever celebrates it!!!!!!!!

[cursive crypt]

Chinese new year? Or else?

Ah, no. That one passed 🤔

[median wraith]

Yeah seems like I found some broken things

The editor have issues when is freeze for a time and you return to the editor selection

and just crash

[median wraith]

that was 1 month ago

[cursive crypt]

Aah... the equinox! About time, my heating fuel is almost gone.

[median wraith]

did you filled a bug report ?

Aside of this bugs UE4 have a terrible issues with video memory management, when you open different files and then close it, don't get pullout of the video memory and get accumulated over the time

oh my lord

Well

I don't drink coffee

So I lack of everything over the year and nobody notices it as is normal already

🤪

[zinc matrix]

what is unrealvirus

[thorny sable]

hey does anyone know how to post an opening to the contract-jobs channel?

completely missed that, thanks

[tribal kraken]

It's this boy's birthday today
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_Roosendaal

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1372972283145433100

Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic)

Putting the Fortnite into PUBG!
Go Apple marketing team! https://t.co/ZxX84IXK0w

Retweets

191

Likes

3310

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 6:04 PM

https://twitter.com/patrickashe/status/1372927331921244162

Pat Ashe (@patrickashe)

Do you remember that time Sony and Quantic Dream sent a load of games press blank sheets of paper that equaled the length of the Beyond: Two Souls script:

Retweets

179

Likes

1138

Twitter · Mar 19, 2021, 3:05 PM

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/IbaiLlanos/status/1373324040903999494

Ibai (@IbaiLlanos)

https://t.co/iGKfX6TrfG

Retweets

1350

Likes

24234

Twitter · Mar 20, 2021, 5:22 PM

[median wraith]

XD

[fresh heath]

http://demoscene-the-art-of-coding.net/2021/03/20/demoscene-accepted-as-unesco-cultural-heritage-in-germany/

[placid thistle]

I don't see anywhere in EULA that UE4 can't be used for pr0n projects

does it mean UE4 can be used pretty much for any kind of project? Asking for a friend

[regal pecan]

The engine itself, maybe, but I think they're more protective of the logos/trademarks.

[placid thistle]

well, I guess if UE4 logo and Epic's name are not mentioned anywhere, it would solve trademark/logo issues

[median wraith]

Actually to use the logos you need to fill a form

But yeah you can use it for adult games if that's the question

[placid thistle]

Adult games was just an example. There are some other unorthodox cases where people might get their feeling hurt 😂

(mostly applicable to Americans and their NATO allies)

[pearl elk]

A war game where the US loses? how original hehe

[humble remnant]

I mean, Wolfenstein is fine

[placid thistle]

No, where US is evil empire, the bad guys

[cobalt oracle]

Watching an unreal course when...
👀

traitors... traitors everywhere

[placid thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-spongebob-sus-suspect-elijahpetty-gif-20773262

[humble remnant]

[cursive crypt]

lol, the Emergency bleeps from the UPS gonna bring me heart attack one day. Pressing the Save buttons as mad.

[junior meteor]

i wrote something relate to education and data visualisation, as a reply to ue4 forum improvements section. Couldnt send the whole text. Wonder if it will make sence to anyone. It got this Psi style.

[fathom wadi]

Magic: Legends is available to preload on Epic Store, ready for 23rd March. Install it now to your Unreal repository because who knows? Perhaps you installed your last EGS game there too? 😄

[pearl elk]

Least its not an Unreal Engine Suppository

[fathom wadi]

Naah that would be a plugin

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-tumble-weed-ghost-town-gif-11132442

[drifting quest]

Hi

[cursive crypt]

Hi, I'm dad.

[median wraith]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/buggy-vehicles-pack-of "Detailed Buggy Vehicle"

aside from this packs I wish there was more quality packs with less examples, (less example levels and more datailed models)

but I'm in the feel the common user of these don't know to make levels

[soft night]

as lounge is in bottom this is silent place

[cursive crypt]

Damn, it is end of March and is snow falling like it is December.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/gifstory-minions-despicableme-butt-bottom-gif-4265265

[zinc matrix]

@zinc matrix is there a tool how i can add compelx collision to mesh faster ?

[real palm]

@fallow bison whatcha working on anyway, with your plethora of interactable menus?

[fallow bison]

VR game, dedicated server with small central city and 3 minibosses each, party size 6, 1 HM final boss. Holy trinity mechanics and a party system.
Party system is what my teeth are currently in atm, and thus the ui associated with it. VR UI is just weird to figure out

All based on Oculus HMD, using 6DOF to track head movement for running, have a hand tracking system for casting skills with GAS given recorded hand gestures that are player specific

Line trace to look at target for target / player selection

fun hobby lol

[real palm]

You call it a hobby but the idea feels really fleshed out and possessing fangs.

[fallow bison]

Thanks! I'm excited to post a work in progress but I'm trying to get all the baseline systems in before making it look a hell of a lot better

Thanks again for your help!

[real palm]

No problem at all! Delighted to (unknowingly) assist such a project

[carmine frigate]

i played some doom VR and somehow controlls were horrid compared to halflife and roborecall

hated every min of the 15 min i played doom

[humble remnant]

How do you even translate Doom to VR

It's a fast-paced game with a ton of movement, that's just asking to kill people

[carmine frigate]

hmm the part i played want fast paced, it was still tutorial

i case you played it and wonder where i stopped

the grenade trowing

absolutely horrid

i thought it would be more like alyx but more shooting

the VR template is honestly more fun 😛

the controlls and their teleporting system in cramp spaces

my face got jammed into a wall to many times in a small timeframe

[fallow bison]

VR movement is still a big problem

motion sickness is a killer

teleportation is immersion breaking

[carmine frigate]

yea i dont really get sick but it doesnt feel great

well that astronaut demo or something i pulled that thing right off my head

no way bein in space feels like that

dont flip people upside down when they know they are sitting

https://tenor.com/view/doom-song-invader-zim-gir-gif-7674344

come to think of it this place is lacking in invader Zim stuff 😛

https://tenor.com/view/mighty-need-invader-zim-shouting-screaming-scared-gif-17581419

[ancient hornet]

https://www.engadget.com/tim-cook-sweeney-may-testify-in-apple-epic-lawsuit-214754232.html 😄

only two weeks left 🍿

[median wraith]

zeriusly epic

[cursive crypt]

What's the benefit of that wishlist anyway? Like, does it send emails for discounts?

[fathom wadi]

it's to let people know that if a scene rip comes out on day 0, they missed out on half those sales :p

[median wraith]

yeah is to store there interesting things

[pearl pewter]

Hey don’t ask me about the circumstances but should i rather get a 40“ 4k curved monitor or a girlfriend?

[tulip orbit]

Get a regular 26" monitor, and an ugly girlfriend

[zinc matrix]

Steam is way too buggy, user unfriendly and with bad customer support to deserve to be as dominant as it is

[cobalt oracle]

is this the "take it or leave it" of our times?

[cursive crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDcDx7aDvo
Contemporary game design, ~4 min.

[cursive crypt]

Aah, nothing better that postponing the inevitable 🙂

Anyway, hope it goes well 👍

[pearl elk]

meanwhile in Halo Im using the same assault rifle the entire game

https://tenor.com/view/blue-alien-thefifthelement-bluealien-theearth-gif-4983185

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-elmer-fudd-bugs-bunny-quietly-walking-slowly-walking-gif-17088875

[median wraith]

Now you said, I need a new monitor

[pearl elk]

So are we all going to join Trumps new social media platform? Should be a great laugh 🙂

Well Im going to go on there and let my free speech flow, see how long it takes for a ban lol

I'll talk about taking the battle to Mar-a-Lago

[thin storm]

,,

lol my keyboard fell down.

how is the basement?

[pearl elk]

either or, take your pick

I have a strange suspicion its not a social media platform it'll just be a new platform for Trump to yell at everyone

[regal pecan]

Protecting user data? Even when selling it is our primary source of income? Nah. IT is for nerds.

[pearl elk]

I like Elon Musks style, complain profusely about third party data collection... then whats Tesla do, third party data collection. But its all good guys Elon told China our data is safe with him

because Ive never had a company leak my personal information before after telling me that it was safe 🙂

Im waiting for the first rich person kidnapped by their own Tesla, its only a matter of time

its either that or someones Tesla will blow up in the garage because bitcoin miners hacked it to mine coin lol

[regal pecan]

Okay, given bitcoin prices, that latter one sounds enticing

[pearl elk]

can you imagine a Cybertruck though, trying to break that glass to escape a kidnapping hehe

[regal pecan]

There's a legit gpu in there.

[thin storm]

if these electro cars catch fire, they burn for days. very environmental.

[pearl elk]

Navi 23 in the newer ones

[regal pecan]

But do lithium batteries burn carbon dioxide?

Make batteries that burn into CO2 absorbing chemicals. Everybody wins.

[thin storm]

there is somthing in batterie you cant get them out if start burning. in europe also no one knows what to do with the trash they leave.

[pearl elk]

just like a tyre fire

[thin storm]

nope not really the energy when in at somepoint.

[regal pecan]

The battery is an incendiary sandwich. You have to submerge and discharge it, which isn't practical.

But the anode and cathode aren't made of coal, so I've no idea what the smoke is made of.

I'm not alone. No one else knows either. XD

[pearl elk]

so what youre saying is I need to mine on the ones parked in the company parking lot because it has a fire system which will cool the gpus when they catch fire

well I remember reading that the plugin system was temporary and not fully fleshed out, bit late to go back on that one now

or what about material layers, its like no yeah nah yeah nah yeah okay you can use it

I think its because Epic know there is better, that they can do better but whether they have the resources to allocate to getting it done is something else entirely so you get this odd limbo

[regal pecan]

They don't think "Ship it" is a meme.

[foggy path]

Literally just one full time person could be updating the docs for these kinds of things

You can kinda tell it's not a priority for them at all to have good docs... I was trying to figure out a packaging problem caused by something that seems like an extremely common thing to do (have a custom editor module for some game-specific editor helpers) and there's literally zero documentation on that

I bet the information on that is probably behind the paywall of that paid support dealio they have...

And yeah I realize if they had one person working on improving these kinds of docs, it would probably require that person to communicate with other people who know about these things, other people who might be busy dealing with whatever work they have... but even then it's like... yeah it shouldn't be that hard

[cursive crypt]

Ah, yeah, what happened with that Editor module? It needs to be on its own module in your project?

[foggy path]

Yeah it was already a separate module with everything correctly set up. For some reason during packaging the StartupModule for it kept running which caused it to crash the packaging since it was accessing GUnrealEd

I randomly decided to just add a if(GUnrealEd) check into it... which fixed the problem and it packages fine now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I still don't really know if StartupModule for editor modules are supposed to run during packaging... but at least it works now

[cursive crypt]

huh

[solid aurora]

if you have only customizations

or better

implementations of custom nodes

you should mark modules as UncookedOnly or DeveloperTool

Editor modules have some issues with order loading and more over packaging, because those nodes needs to be transformed into bytecode

[foggy path]

hmm

yeah I just have some component visualizers in it at the moment

ah yeah looks like those are options in .uproject... I'll give that a go to see if that sorts out the StartupModule thing

Does changing the uproject file require regenerating the VS solution stuff for the project btw?

UncookedOnly or DeveloperTool don't seem to have any effect on this

if I disable the if(GUnrealEd) check, it still crashes the build with either of those (full rebuild enabled, the editor module has no dependency to it from the game module and has its type set to TargetType.Editor)

PackagingResults: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffbc1ff323f UE4Editor-UnrealEd.dll!UUnrealEdEngine::RegisterComponentVisualizer() [D:\Build\++UE4\Sync\Engine\Source\Editor\UnrealEd\Private\UnrealEdEngine.cpp:1299]
PackagingResults: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007ffb8d5a3755 UE4Editor-GameJamRewindEditor-Win64-DebugGame.dll!FGameJamRewindEditorModule::StartupModule() [d:\dev\unrealengine\gamejamrewind\source\gamejamrewindeditor\gamejamrewindeditor.cpp:20]```

basically just does this, which looks pretty weird for it to be running it, but if it works with the check I guess it's fine :P

[pearl elk]

which loadingphase does the module run in?

[foggy path]

PostEngineInit as apparently ComponentVisualizers won't work otherwise

[pearl elk]

perhaps you can exclude the plugin directory manually from the cooker

[foggy path]

It's not a plugin though so I'm not sure if that'd do anything

[pearl elk]

oh its an editor module

thats why its trying to include it in the cook

[foggy path]

I mean it works as long as I have if(GUnrealEd) in the StartupModule function... the packaged build runs without issues

I don't know if it's still being bundled into the packaged build or not but at least it works :D

[pearl elk]

maybe add some log on your component to see if it shows in cooked

[foggy path]

not sure how that'd work because it's only a component visualizer and it will only do anything if it gets registered with GUnrealEd 🤔

I'm assuming it's at least not attempting to bundle in UnrealEd.h or any of that stuff because the packaged build is still the same size as it was always :D

[pearl elk]

who knows what people can do by hacking at games these days

if you get lucky like Rockstar someone might fix it for you 😛

[foggy path]

lol

[foggy path]

that's only 10% of my total doge holdings

[pearl pewter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360736736864763905/823286517086027796/video0.mp4

[dense stratus]

as someone who is technically a zoomer I can confirm that that is probably an example of zoomer humour, not a particularly funny one though

[carmine frigate]

@foggy path you think the epic paid support dealio comes with some super fancy shining golden docs page? 🙂

[foggy path]

What is anyone paying for if it doesn't!

should come with a Documentation Butler who brings you pages from it on a silver platter

[carmine frigate]

all ur questions answered 🙂

[regal pecan]

There's probably a private forum with no moderator and two community managers with real tech degrees.

[outer hollow]

Hi everyone! Not sure where best to post this but I am currently completing my undergraduate dissertation on accessibility in the games industry. I would be grateful for anyone who is willing to donate roughly 5 minutes of their time to complete my survey. https://forms.gle/vpvDSxioYJALG1A17 ***No personal data is collected and all answers are 100% anonymous ***

[humble remnant]

Tbh at this point people hate simply because it's trendy to hate

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/invaderzim-gir-squirrel-nickelodeon-audio-gif-3504061

[median wraith]

a poseable mesh is a skeletal mesh that you can change bones locations ?

[carmine frigate]

i think that stuff is dated now

well i never used it

you can have any mesh , grab a bone and move it somewhere

[median wraith]

You're so lucky, I own only one cell remain

[fresh heath]

https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/22/discord-exploring-sale-that-could-be-worth-more-than-10-billion/

[carmine frigate]

every that pressed : I Agree .. just got sold to a catfood factory

all cats are lawyers and all that

we are screwed

[foggy path]

watch IBM purchase Discord

lol

...or Oracle

[humble remnant]

Goddammit

I hoped Discord to remain its own thing

[solid aurora]

Why would they ? You create company and sell it, so you don't have to manage it : D

Though 10 billions doesn't seem much honestly

[foggy path]

depends on how much of the stock you're holding^

:P

I'm waiting for someone to buy the company I work for for significantly smaller sums than 10 billion lol

[fathom wadi]

watch Slack buy it and simply render the service pointless by sending in dedicated bots to make life hell :p

[spare glade]

Facebook will buy it and require everyone to create a Facebook account to use it....

[fathom wadi]

cool I already have one of those accounts to talk to really old people I know :p

[zinc matrix]

Fuk steam

[fathom wadi]

heh that's the second time in a couple of days I've seen you hate on steam. Having issues with steamworks or something?

[zinc matrix]

Both, can't access account and won't let me request help

[fathom wadi]

that sounds like a predicament. I have to ask, did you forget a password or is it locked out on their side for other reasons?

[zinc matrix]

I forgot my password but it was also bugging in other ways so idk if i really did forget it

But it says i already have a support request when i try and open one

[fathom wadi]

wow I thought they would have a pretty simple password reset for such things. Never had to use it myself.

funny thing is my steam account is registered on an email I haven't used since I registered steam in beta 😄 So if I did forget it, I'd be pretty screwed.

[zinc matrix]

It's annoying

[fathom wadi]

sounds like it. Have you considered the word of our Lord, Tim, and implemented EGS for now? 😄

[zinc matrix]

Whats egs

[fathom wadi]

Epic Online Services for Epic Game Store

[zinc matrix]

Ah epic games

Yeah i might play oddworld on it

[fathom wadi]

oh this is just account purposes and not for implementing the online subsystem?

[zinc matrix]

Both i guess i want to use steam for my game but in like 6 months lol

[fathom wadi]

ahh

[zinc matrix]

I also can't access stuff to play xd

[fathom wadi]

yeah. I imagine that would be stressful if you had a collection.

Im sure it can get resolved at some point. I bet they have a backlog larger than I do. And I assure you, my backlog is years worth.

[zinc matrix]

Hope so

[humble remnant]

PayPal confuses me

I got my acc banned since I was doing literally nothing with it then declined to give them personal information after they had "suspicious activity"

[snow tundra]

how do i view the log?

im very new to unreal engine

[humble remnant]

I make a new one with a different email I'm using, sell my crypto and put the money in the new acc, send money to some random dude, pay for my Spotify and then it all went through without any requests to confirm identity

How does that make any sense

[fathom wadi]

@snow tundra /saved/logs/

[humble remnant]

Top left, window, message log

[fathom wadi]

oh paypal. I've had an account since it launched and used it twice. 😄

[humble remnant]

I didn't even use mine and they straight up asked for ID and proof of address

What?

And the new one, they don't even ask for that

WHAT??!!

[fathom wadi]

well verification comes with a grace period usually. You can use it upto a certain amount until verified. But perhaps after some time it auto-forces you to verify

which would make sense

[humble remnant]

I've done infinitely more things with the new acc than the old one

And I'd assume it's more suspicious to receive a random amount of money to that new acc

And then even more suspicious that I sent part of that money to some other acc

[snow tundra]

found it, issue is now im even more confused, ive no clue what i deleted.

[2021.03.23-02.29.17:430][373]LogBlueprint: Warning: [AssetLog] C:\Users%username%\Documents\Unreal Projects\Mutagen\Content\hud.uasset:
[Compiler] Event Reply Return Value should not be empty.
Return a reply such as Handled or Unhandled.

[fathom wadi]

you need to add the Handled or Unhandled node and plug it into the return value on where you have edited your input

which would be in the hud.uasset of course.

[snow tundra]

ah found it, i forgot to delete a dead node i was using to test button input

this is basically what im working on, trying to work the drag and drop to move the coins where they need to go.

[snow tundra]

hey is there anyway i can stream in the support thing? im trying to make a UI but the game window keeps going back to the first person view and there's not even supposed to be a first person element to what im making.

nothing online helps

[stoic turtle]

What does add note under users profiles do?

Can the user know what note i wrote on him?

[pearl elk]

I think Manny needs a friend, I vote for Harley

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: You may rely on it.

[stoic turtle]

Thanks ponkkis , nice feature i have a bad memory so i will start to note people

[pearl elk]

!8ball is arche a secret troll

[turbid spindle]

@pearl elk, :8ball: Ask again later.

[cursive crypt]

And not only a doctor 😆

[regal pecan]

Happiezepam? John Doe? Sus.

[regal pecan]

Where do github and minecraft fit in that meme

[carmine frigate]

he is holding the minecraft pckaxe

[regal pecan]

can't do it. looks too much like a scythe.

MSN and Skype aren't even dead. Github and Minecraft are doing fine. I don't get it. Not even a mention of GFWL?

[carmine frigate]

skype voice is pretty terrible

average ingame teamspeak works better 😛

[cursive crypt]

Discord selling themselves sounds awful.
Tho Github more or less still holds 🤔

[regal pecan]

Sell to TenCent. What could go wrong. 😈

[carmine frigate]

he has super few features around his eyes. so the picture is kinda accurate

im not a police scetch artist in case ppl wonder if i drew that

[solid aurora]

github is owned by microsoft

aside from that this meme is stupid

MSN died like rest of aggregating news portals

[normal prism]

Slightly happy it's microsoft though.

[solid aurora]

to social media

[normal prism]

And I think that says more about the state of other companies the last few years

Imagine if it was Facebook...

shivers

[solid aurora]

and skype is alive, though less popular due to slack and discord

[carmine frigate]

msn was pretty big after icq here

they pay 10 million for the software and 9.99 billion for the userbase

[cursive crypt]

All that crunchy user data 🍴

[pearl elk]

MS own LinkedIn too btw

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/23/22346041/oled-nintendo-switch-dlss-nvidia-chip-report

And so it begins, wheres the tech specs for this SoC

[regal pecan]

How do you optimize a game for DLSS

[carmine frigate]

it just works

[regal pecan]

That's what I would've thought, but there's got to be more than that. Deliberately running a game at a lower resolution so you can oversample it must have some unique challenges.

Maybe choose an art style less likely to result in high frequency shimmering?

[pearl elk]

Makes you wonder if theres an art style you could almost render entirely with dlss

just deepfake the entire game 😛

air guitars This is not the greatest game in the wo-orld, its just a triiibuute

[carmine frigate]

ahh the legend still lives 😛

[humble remnant]

Goddammit

Was feeling sick over the weekend, grandma told me her COVID test came out positive, mine just did too

So far so good, just feeling tired and temperature is fluctuating so much

[dense stratus]

oh no, I hope you feel better soon

[humble remnant]

It's aight, so far it's like I left the window open for too long and caught a cold

[dense stratus]

that's good

it's weird how it affects different people so differently

[pearl pewter]

Hey can I trust managers?

A legit one just offered me a giant deal but wants me to send a lot of footage and screenshots of my indie project to him..

I'm kind of scared that he will just make a rip off version with a bigger company..

But he said hes no shark manager.. do all shark managers say that?

[foggy path]

Sign an agreement before sharing anything that makes it so you can sue the shit out of him if he does :P

[pearl pewter]

Can you do that valid via e-mail?

Like just a clear statement?

[foggy path]

Hmm, not really sure 🤔

It might need to be a proper agreement that a lawyer has checked, otherwise they could be very hard to enforce

I don't know if I would be massively concerned... if someone wanted to steal your idea, they could pretty easily just remake your game after you launch it

[carmine frigate]

yea screenshots and stuff shouldnt worry you

if hes gunna do a rip hes gunna do it on step 2 or 3

managers dont do copyright infringement they do strangle contracts

[cursive crypt]

Likely you are right, tho I know a case, where the devs were asked for screenshots and explanations... Then he just made out a design/requirements out of them - for his people.

[pearl pewter]

😈😈😈 ponkkis decided to speak facts today!

[pearl pewter]

Haha

Bruh i tried to open a huge map in the engine and my monitor went black after a few seconds

There was a error that the gpu ran out of memory and it fucking uninstalled direct x 11 😂😂 wtf?

Opening such a huge level direct x uninstalls 😂

[foggy path]

That doesn't sound right 🤔

[deep glen]

https://twitter.com/Luos_83/status/1374359016529346563

Luos_83 (@Luos_83)

I know there are viable/good reasons for using them, but the moment I see a material using the noise node, even if its the most "optimal" one I go:
#ue4 #vfx https://t.co/pXdl0BqWyM

▶ Play video

Twitter · Mar 23, 2021, 1:54 PM

[median wraith]

hey devs if your GPU fails where we can get a new one ?

[foggy path]

Nowhere until chip shortage is solved I guess or you want to buy a used 2xxx series card from a bitcoin miner

[ocean marten]

Amazon or smthn

How is there a chip shortage anyway?

i keep hearing about it but never knew the context

[foggy path]

it's affecting a bunch of random things like the automotive industry because they can't get stuff they need for cars either

[ocean marten]

So we are pumping out more products then chips manifactured

[pearl pewter]

Ok maybe building lightning won’t crash like this..? 😭

Always freezes

[median wraith]

dammit

[pearl pewter]

25% it’s working boys!

My room is at 0 grad celsius at this point

[snow tundra]

how do i make a 2D project with actually no starter stuff? im literally just trying to make a menu system to help with a TT roleplay system ive developed, but every "no starter content" setup still has a bunch of 3d elements, controls and useless assets i cant get rid of.

[unborn lotus]

Gt 1030 👀

[snow tundra]

this is why i live in a basement, no chance of overheating when its cold as the arctic, 😂

[median wraith]

man that don't even executed the Epic launcher @unborn lotus

Yesterday spotted the 1650 for 500€

jesus

[unborn lotus]

You could get a 2060 for 700

Or join the eu evga queue

[humble remnant]

[unborn lotus]

For decent prices

But Ive been waiting for 4 months

[median wraith]

this prices are absurd

for a GPU that runs terraria

[unborn lotus]

I got the email for 3060 Ti at 400 euros, but decided to wait for the 3080

😔

[pearl pewter]

Froze at 45% this time 😭😭

[snow tundra]

can you not save it piecemeal?

[pearl pewter]

I’ll just reduce clock speed everytime i build 😭

And one day when im rich ill get a treadripper

[median wraith]

@unborn lotus