lounge

[cursive crypt]

@fathom wadi ? Because 20 is out or just the regular pay of respect?

[fathom wadi]

because 20 is out. Just in case anyone actually reads the 1800+ pages and is bored :p

It's always good to know if a new C++ rev is gonna change things up tho

Not that it ever does 😄

[cursive crypt]

Nah... Is it 1800 already? lol

[fresh heath]

The ARM64 specification is like 8000 pages

[cursive crypt]

Just the brief view of Wiki is fine.

[fathom wadi]

yeah

I keep getting feed news from Jon Masters on stuff regarding ARM and it blows my mind how we sold that shit.

[mild root]

how is it possible? I had a look at your artstation profile and you seem to be a pretty proficient developer.

[median wraith]

Oh isn't because the job mainly (still waiting for a full time job but)

The bikes are out in almost whole europe

and the whole stock for 2022 were sold

[fathom wadi]

Make one with a 3d printer.

[mild root]

wow that's weird

anyway

[median wraith]

Turns out I wanted to visit places this year and I can't get a bike or get out of home so because the virus
https://giphy.com/gifs/memecandy-eIfYQTaK3148kmMCxT

@fathom wadi lol

don't think thats a good idea

[fathom wadi]

why not? We have plastic hips. Im sure a bike is fine.

[median wraith]

the people bought bikes getting 400% over compared to the last year because the virus and this happened

[mild root]

I am playing cyberpunk 2077 now. good game definitely. I don't understand the hate hype. SUre the game is running badly on old consoles and potato pc's, but it is better than if it was downgraded, in my opinion. the gameplay is serviceable, the story is really dark. reminds me of a lot of cyberpunk/sci-fi movies of 80's-00's.

[median wraith]

the people overreacts

and you know stupid things and jokes sell better on social media than anything serious

[mild root]

confirmed players like the game -the score is just under 80% on gog and steam

[fathom wadi]

Wanna know how many bugs I have had in 20 hours of gameplay? One. My shoes were invisible. The hate for this game is warranted based solely on personal experience though. I love it, but if it was crashing and bugging out every 5 minutes, I'd hate it.

[mild root]

I had one crash in 50 hours

[fathom wadi]

I haven't ever crashed on PC

playing medium settings in 1440p

[mild root]

the game has some bugs, but they are not gamebraking, mostly

I play with rtx ultra on 1080p

got 50+ fps most of the time

dlss 2.0 makes wonders

[median wraith]

by the way @mild root thank you for the compliment, ty

[fathom wadi]

If I had an RTX card I'd switch it on but alas I'm on 1080ti and they don't let you switch on RTX even if it's software

[mild root]

you are welcome, I don't mind giving compliments to people that are better than me at the moment, I'm just a former linux administrator for now

[fresh heath]

Half-Life 2 has my favorite sound design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdsgFu5bMvQ

[fathom wadi]

That's kind of direct in motive 😄

[fluid bloom]

awwww yisss season 5 https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0U48W209BQO6IR2FQRSLWYWH7Z

[fathom wadi]

did that not get boring around season 3? I couldn't seem to follow it after that

[fluid bloom]

lol

I don't know, you tell me

I've read all eight books that have been released so far and I really enjoy them

the series is good too

[fathom wadi]

Maybe my brain was just too overloaded for a tv series or something. I enjoyed the first two seasons.

Mind you I'm enjoying ST:Discovery but I can't seem to get motivated to watch that either.

[fluid bloom]

something about discovery didn't sit right with me, I've seen the first two seasons

I mean, it looks great but I guess I don't really like the whole star trek thing

[mossy nexus]

There is something wrong with your brain thing... STD? Enjoyable?

[fathom wadi]

Star Trek Discovery is pretty cool yeah. Some people didn't like the first season but they all agreed the second was great. Third is a step out of the box. It's a really interesting story though.

[mossy nexus]

The only saving grace was Capt Pike. I watched ep1 of the new series and.. meh 😄

[fluid bloom]

sometimes discovery ventures too much into technobabble territory

[fathom wadi]

And yeah my brain is borked right now. I was working solo on a game and doing 70-100 hour weeks because self-pressure to move my family out of this tiny house. Then a social media event that targeted me in a nasty way absolutely broke my mind. For months I had no will to even be in this industry anymore. I'm still panicking in case I never get back to the full swing of things. But I don't know what else to do. I code, therefore i++

[mild root]

plan for 40 hrs weeks, because a human can only do so much

[fathom wadi]

40 hour weeks isn't in my vocabulary unless im doing a job. This is my hobby too.

I play a game for 100 hours in a week no problem. Nobody complains. When its game dev, I'm killing myself :p

It wasn't so much the long hours that did it for me though. That actually helps my motivation. It was the lack of money, the slow progress, then the social media stuff. It all added up

[mild root]

playing games is not a work. you just repeat the same action loop over and over

[fathom wadi]

welcome to programming

[mild root]

work is synthesis

[median wraith]

VR indies that don't even know what tiling textures is and made a whole house floor of a single texture, being clap by individuals
I'm sorry I can't deal with modern stupidness

good lord

[fathom wadi]

Not to mention COVID meant I have been in a room with upto 6 other people at all times. The only space I have had is when I go outside to walk. Im in my living room and currently hear, baby crying over food, daughter singing, wife chatting, other daughter laughing at her tablet. Minecraft music on the tv and interruptions from the other kids. Not the best coding environment :p

[mild root]

damn it sucks to have a family 🤣

[fluid bloom]

you haven't worked much, have you? 😛

[mild root]

I have almost five years of linux administrating experience. a lot of stuff happened

[fluid bloom]

I worked as a cleaner for a summer

all I did was the same action repeated every day

[median wraith]

whats worst the family or to be total alone, is like a game choose, each one have pros and cons

😂

[fluid bloom]

every week

[fathom wadi]

Try being a UI designer. Same shit, different skin.

[fluid bloom]

or a web developer

😄

[fathom wadi]

yeah I did that for 15 years 😄

I quit because I was bored of the grind

[mild root]

when I was a student, I worked as a construction worker on summer vacations.

[median wraith]

I thought web devs are bored of the grid*

🤪

[fathom wadi]

heh

I remember when using Tables was a faux pas, now they are everywhere again. Lying bastards !

[fluid bloom]

web developers are so bored of the grind that they come up with even newer ways of shooting yourself in the foot with a new framework/library that does the same thing as countless previous ones except for one tiny change

[fathom wadi]

They created full stack developers to sound important when they are just #include jockeys 😄

[mild root]

linux administrators are different. we stick to tech that was out there 20 years ago. and after that we write scripts to parse large amounts of data

using unix pipes

[fathom wadi]

perl jockeys are worth if you ask me. Never learned it because never needed it but yeah

*worthy

[median wraith]

Once a guy told me in the CV didn't spot Java, told he I do C++/C and did tools in C# and modding for MC
He said: "Still isn't Java"

[fathom wadi]

I would have replied "System.fuck.off.then"

[mild root]

"do you even compile bro"

[median wraith]

_Error 657: Your last neuron cannot be reached _

XD

I like how these people never ever programmed

[fathom wadi]

Next time, say... "I learned Java by using Javascript"

that will trigger them

[median wraith]

XD

But I got a OnlyFans web

OH FINE

[cursive crypt]

I'm kinda impressed, I posted the other day a feature wish for R# and today they implemented it... All devs should jump to fulfil their customer wishes 🙂

[fathom wadi]

that's just software prostitution. I mean, I'm already busy with my OnlyFans page 😄

[median wraith]

R#?

what happened with D language ?

[cursive crypt]

ReSharper...

Oh, you have OF 😄

[median wraith]

OH

[cursive crypt]

Dunno about D

D is behind C

... basically 🧠

[fathom wadi]

In what alphabet?

[median wraith]

@fathom wadi someone compared it yesterday with firefighters getting money from calendars for charity

[mild root]

c++ is the answer. I am 4 months into it and I love it. sure there is heavy syntax overhead, but it gives some feel of what's going on

[median wraith]

I'm not allowed to give my opinion on Twitter

[fathom wadi]

Honestly I have no issue with it. Sex is humanity personified. Closely followed by corporate exploitation. So it's a match made in heaven.

[fresh heath]

Nothing

[cursive crypt]

lol

[median wraith]

I had good expectations on that language tbh, about 5 years ago

[fresh heath]

Wish it wasn't growing like cancer with each revision of the standard

[fathom wadi]

I thought the consensus was that it's actually ok for such a behemoth

[cursive crypt]

huh? Don't badmouth the venerable C 🔫

I think its fine... Just the guys took quite a big break 2000 - 2010

I mean, its "huge" and the amount of stuff it needs to do to play the role for everyone is also huge

Hence, they develop it constantly.

[mild root]

big things are complex. no escaping from that

[median wraith]

tbh the problem is the people paying, no the sellers just as the drugs

[fresh heath]

Alan Kay disagrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdSD07U5uBs

[fathom wadi]

it's a thirsty world. An immature one at that

[median wraith]

things are okay up to an extend

[mild root]

don't see a contradiction. big things are complex, and simplicity is power. things get bigger, they loose some power. there is always a tradeoff between complexity and simplicity of systems

it is good that understanding of fundamentals is still the most important stuff

[fathom wadi]

Thats an awesome Smithers. The shading on his inner thighs is a nice touch.

yeah

occlusion/visibility glitch I guess Either way. Glad it's not just me being a noob

[median wraith]

@fathom wadi facebook is trying to find me friends or something sending me accounts that are inactive for like 2 to 6 years

is fascinating

don't even know why is doing it

😂

[fathom wadi]

I only use FB because my Nan and Mother are too old for Twitter :p

[median wraith]

hahaah

I just post on UE4 one

never used it really

well, to contact a bikes provider

but well

didn't end well

[fathom wadi]

I used to be full on in that group but facebook decided to only notify me about new posts 2 hours after they were posted. So now when I get there, the questions are already answered.

Maybe they didn't like me giving terrible coding advice there or something 😄

[median wraith]

lol

I liked that with the meetup thing

after I did the account the lockdown started

😂

and seems overall nobody goes these events

[fathom wadi]

Frankly in an industry full of people with social issues, it doesn't surprise me :p

[median wraith]

well tbh, my main issue is to find people outside of the industry because what you just pointed, and moved to bike events etc there but well

another funny thing, old school people tell young people about talk with randoms and stores or bars, they get scared of do that, but they get scared too of use meeting apps etc too

[fathom wadi]

I, for one, hate EXPOs. They are sweaty adverts. Why people go as visitors I guess is due to boredom. But why people go as tech-jockeys is beyond me. I'd rather stand on a corner shouting "I know you won't buy it but...." and then talking about jive to people I don't care about for half an hour whilst someone else stares at me as if to say "hurry up I might be a client" when I know they aint.

[carmine frigate]

i met elon musk at the next web a few years ago, that was pretty dope

[placid thistle]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/16/22178453/gog-devotion-cancels-release-cd-projekt-red

So I guess EGS wouldn't welcome this game either ?

[carmine frigate]

i allways get a ticket but often i cant go

[fathom wadi]

@placid thistle You don't meme the overlords without repercussions.

[median wraith]

I worked for a games company once where the boss advice me all the people that goes to these events is crazy

can't confirm as he never let me go the event

🤖

[fathom wadi]

Day 1, you can get through. But that feeling on Day 2 when you have to eat as much coffee as possible and try look like you give a shit. It's not for me :p

[median wraith]

XD

is censored by the freedom of speech

[carmine frigate]

do we even have somesort of comicon in europe?

[placid thistle]

@fathom wadi I bet they would if it was Putin's meme

[fathom wadi]

That's probably right. Politics and all.

[unborn lotus]

east european comic con, pretty big

[median wraith]

if is riding a bear won't be the case

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1339273055525195776?s=20 this is another "political" situation thats probably gonna get shined over in favour of this aggro-story.

Stadia (@GoogleStadia)

Stadia is now available on iOS devices! Yes, you read that right. Starting today, you can sign into https://t.co/AoYhdVnzGu on your Safari iOS browser and begin playing your favorite games. Try it for yourself today! https://t.co/iQhoAu8NtX

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Twitter · Dec 16, 2020, 6:15 PM

[placid thistle]

either way, either CCP has such long hands that it grips West by the balls really tight, or West is so weak that we can't have memes on politicians

or China was their primary market

[median wraith]

@carmine frigate they were talking about Madrid Games Week on this case

[fathom wadi]

Well think about it. A potential market of over 1 billion people. You don't cut your nose off to spite your face with those numbers because it's not just about profits at that point. It's livelihoods too. Do you wipe out a bunch of jobs to stand up for a game that made a mistake on it's own volition? Essentially buddying up at the cost of millions? Its not a sound decision even in the anti-corporate world.

[median wraith]

a friend wanted from me a free pass because I'm developer @carmine frigate

you know typical things from friends

in xmas you have to fix printers

[carmine frigate]

lol

sure im a dev ill buy u a bunch of tickets 😛

[median wraith]

sure thing

[carmine frigate]

give him a bunch of itch keys

here have 20 copies of this trash game i made 😛

[placid thistle]

@fathom wadi if the platform considers China a huge market, then perhaps.. Devs should have released meme as DLC that is not on the marketplace 😂

[median wraith]

hahaaha

hey thank you for the part where you call my work trash @carmine frigate

😂 😂

[carmine frigate]

just start giving random ppl on the street 1000 steam keys 😛

[fathom wadi]

aye. I feel for them. I really do. I'm against almost all censorship (only protective censorship from kids for eg.). It's a poor judgement mistake and they should be allowed to atone.

[carmine frigate]

no problem, tryin to stay professional here 😛

[median wraith]

xd

[fathom wadi]

@carmine frigate professionals would send them keys for Digital Homicide's games instead.

[median wraith]

there is people with 30 years that act as kids

[fathom wadi]

I bet they still install as Spacewar :p

[carmine frigate]

think those games are locked

[median wraith]

how we protect the brains of these

[fathom wadi]

You don't. You can only shame them into another opinion.

apparently.

[median wraith]

poor people

[fathom wadi]

I dunno. Some people need to be shamed to change their opinion. They think so highly of their own intelligence that they can't see the wood for the trees. A short, sharp, shock to their entire belief system can work wonders. It did for me regarding some of the issues I grew up with that made me a worse person. If it wasn't for certain events re-arranging my psyche to accommodate such beliefs, I might have still been a bigoted racist fuck that needs to kick his OWN ass.

[fresh heath]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38000/here-is-what-the-air-forces-new-robot-dogs-are-actually-capable-of

[fathom wadi]

It's gonna fail so hard the moment one engineer throws his spanner and the entire robot regiment bounds off to retrieve it 😄

[fresh heath]

Today robot dogs, tomorrow robot waifus

https://tenor.com/view/persona3-pose-arena-aigis-gif-12049092

[fathom wadi]

I want a robot worker. I wake up and say "code me a class that does X and Y" and then I go about my day doing productive things like sitting here and playing all the awesome games I've not been playing.

Or a robot that plays FIFA 21 Squad Building Challenges so I don't have to and can go play some actual football.

[median wraith]

1 year later then you remember that you used dogs because they smell things

hopefully some day close from today the whole army will be robots

[robust gulch]

[median wraith]

and each country will have armies of robots, so everyone notice how stupid it is

[fathom wadi]

Why would we have armies in the future when we are all to be amalgamated into one consolidated and easy to pay loan.

wait... got a bit satirical there. Backtracking.

[median wraith]

Hey the robots can do jobs we don't want to do

[sonic condor]

You notice how direct declaration of war between countries is becoming more rare.

[median wraith]

that way we have to be all programmers and robotic engineers what we always wanted

[sonic condor]

so instead what there is proxy battles, done in secret

[fresh heath]

Soon it will be proxy battles between proxy warriors

[fathom wadi]

declaration of war fuels it's own economy. If the economy that exists outside of war is more profitable and power-sustaining than wartime, it's always the better option.

[median wraith]

you can't see yet that we are reaching the 0 waste and saving the planet

by 2025 we will do lemonades with all the cars batteries acid

[carmine frigate]

the planet doesnt need saving 😛

[fathom wadi]

Save the planet? The planet is fine. It's US that are the problem. We are trying to save ourselves. It's funny in a way.

[carmine frigate]

in about 200 mil year bacteria can eat plastic and we are gone 😛

problem solved

[fathom wadi]

we can dissolve plastic now

[median wraith]

that's why are investing into the spacial science

someone played Starbound or NMS ?

THAT'S THE WAY

[carmine frigate]

well i played nms like 2 hours

[fathom wadi]

Remember the time they were trying to re-use carbon as a fuel? They couldn't get it to a decent percentage return on energy consumption vs output. But if they set fire to all the plastic bags I have stored in my pantry, they could fuel space travel 😄

[median wraith]

now you can't purchase a new diesel car

them all are GLP

for the low cost ones

the rest are electric

[carmine frigate]

maYB i can eat plastic if its prepared right, i never tried

[median wraith]

if the cars don't drop smoke that means is fine @fathom wadi what are you saying please

[carmine frigate]

just cook that wrapping together with my veggies

[fathom wadi]

Maybe plastic will eventually cover the Earth's surface enough to counter gravity's pull and it saves trillions in space fuel? Who knows. We have to drop the carbon output whilst the volcanoes aren't going off. And they want to tax us for it. So they say plastic bags bad etc and start taxing us. Then they tax us on the waste. Then they tax us some more for feeling guilty about our "Original Sin / Carbon Footprint". It's a scam. Not that I think global warming isn't an issue, I just think it's being exacerbated and handled by profiteers and that ain't gonna be a solution until it's profitable for them.

[median wraith]

Greta isn't happy with us after have the whole countries shutdown for 6 months

[carmine frigate]

greta should eat some plastic 😛

[median wraith]

hey but she have a movie and all

[fathom wadi]

she should really. I mean, do you know all the ins and outs? She is changing things whilst we sit on discord with our thumbs up our arse.

Even if it's really her parent's living vicariously through her. Change is inevitable.

[median wraith]

talk for yourself I use a butt plug

[fathom wadi]

yeah in the shape of my finger after you saw my hand photo. Dirty bugger.

[median wraith]

😂

[fathom wadi]

A girl's best friend :p

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/JurassicRabbit/status/1339247032880381952

Mitchell Saltzman (@JurassicRabbit)

Is this a typo, or did I miss some lore that explains how Night City's real name is actually Nigth City?

Likes

213

Twitter · Dec 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

[fathom wadi]

this is why my typing/spelling gets a bit borked sometimes :p

[median wraith]

how dare you sir

and how the hell you do that

[fathom wadi]

jiu-jitsu

[median wraith]

it reminds me of the insects attack

spiderman

bet the calluses aren't from coding

[fathom wadi]

Did you know, Jeff Bezos' ex-wife gave away over 4 billion dollars this year

those are from the plaster. I was in a cast for a couple of months.

[median wraith]

dafuk

[median wraith]

it were build at night

or it have more activity at night

that's it

the t is just random

[humble remnant]

Delayed so much it was rushed in the end

[median wraith]

that happen when you hire spanish people to make the decals

[fathom wadi]

@median wraith this is the throw that I took when it happened. Imagine it at full speed, and my hand went under my knee as I did the breakfall. So my knee essentially spiral fractured my finger. It wasn't painful or anything. But I can't play guitar ever again. https://youtu.be/_gcIWtS-9Ms?t=102

[carmine frigate]

damn i never broke a bone in my life

[median wraith]

do you use both things on combined actions ? @fathom wadi the fingers thing and this all at same, with the same person ?

😜

[fathom wadi]

I went around my body like a clock between judo and JJ

[carmine frigate]

i did make a bunch of nasty falls tho

[median wraith]

never did martial arts

[fathom wadi]

@median wraith that would be awkward after I get home to the wife 😄

[carmine frigate]

like i skateboarded and snowboarded half pipe stuff

[fathom wadi]

breakfalling was awesome for helping with skateboarding. I never injured myself at all because I always rolled out of it

[median wraith]

haha

[carmine frigate]

and i think ive seen each of my frieds break something

[mossy nexus]

Cyberpunk.. the gift that keeps on giving...

[fathom wadi]

I once played football on sheet ice. Some lad slid into my and I went up in the air and landed on my neck. Broke my collarbone. That was about the worst. To hear the bone grinding against itself was sickening.

[median wraith]

Gamer girl Uranium

no wait

[fathom wadi]

gamer girl?

Every gamer girl I ever met didn't have that much makeup on. No time. Gaming 😄

[median wraith]

this is fake, why was posted today

I'm reading the whole article one second lol

is from august but not sure how it makes sense

[fathom wadi]

I remember back when Final Fantasy 10 released, I met these two girls of which one was my best mate's girlfriend. So they start playing FFX and I'm like "cool, this might be when girls start flooding the market". Skip to 2 weeks later I go round, and they had been playing it non-stop, addicted like crackheads, looked like they hadn't seen a hairbrush in 2 weeks. Munchie wrappers everywhere. I was like "Now that's a gamer!" 😄

[median wraith]

@zinc matrix that now uses adult sites so whatever

some people can't create content so ends using the body

[carmine frigate]

hmm i actually do 😛

[fathom wadi]

apparently belle delphine is moving into hardcore now (because selling bath water isn't hardcore enough). But here is the kicker. She is auctioning the condom. LIke wtf.... someone will buy that....

[median wraith]

and yeah is a joke article

for a moment I was happy can't relate why

[normal prism]

HEY, NO KINK SHAMING

😠

😄

[carmine frigate]

test that water on corona 😛

super spreader alert

[broken sigil]

👀

[fathom wadi]

no shame in it I guess. It's just confusing. I mean, they like her, they fancy her, but they want an old porn guy's sweaty load in a bag because it smells of fish? Strange times.

[median wraith]

xmas is around the corner outside there is cold and the chat get a HORN-Y

[normal prism]

Rule 34

[carmine frigate]

hevedy offc

duhh

[median wraith]

Wasn't me

was that foking Hevedy

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[carmine frigate]

its like that time with the xmas tree again

[median wraith]

OH THAT

you got pines and pineapples

[fathom wadi]

Speaking of xmas. I was talking to a friend earlier who happens to be Jewish. So I said "My wife said Happy Hannukah. I told her you was a Muslim but she said it anyway" and he replied "WTF you have known me 20 years and you thought I was Muslim?" and I said "you have known me 20 years and you didn't know I joke about everything and anything?". A good time was had by all 😄

[median wraith]

that was a save

you have deep friendships it seems

🤖

[carmine frigate]

damn thats so close, i introduced a friend to a girl i know for a long time and said . hey this is steve, hes also jewish

[fathom wadi]

I've been having fun with him for 2 decades, he knew I was joking. I think he was just playing along.

[carmine frigate]

both freaked out at same time, im not jewish

good times

[fathom wadi]

lol. I once convinced someone I was black for 2 years because he was acting racist. He only found out I was white when I was caught on a camera at an i-series lan 😄

cured his racism tho.

Almost the kid's bedtime. Which means one thing. Night City awaits.

[mild root]

*frowns in orthodox

[fathom wadi]

hehe

I never understood Orthodox. Thats why I always use Perspectivedox.

[carmine frigate]

im more paradox

[fresh heath]

TIL this exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_Abstraction_Layer

[median wraith]

good lord that joke will cost you Slackers points @fathom wadi

[mild root]

orthodox is simple. orthodox is right, everyone else is heretic (and schismatic if christian)

[fathom wadi]

not like I haven't been vilified for my jokes before. But if I bring but one person a smile, it's worth it 😉

[fresh heath]

It would be nice if Unreal supported PAL

[fathom wadi]

They already have a layer so it's only an interface away I guess. Considering the work on Chaos and manipulating PhysX out of the way, I bet it's modular as a robot penis extension by now.

[median wraith]

you won't get Pals here

[humble remnant]

Isn't Chaos en route to become similar to PAL?

[median wraith]

I have to get a basic 2 axis physics working but no idea hwat the engine will return me on this one

[fathom wadi]

@humble remnant presumably. I mean, who would create a static system in a dynamic engine like UE these days. You can tell by the code itself that where it's meant to be modular, it tries to be.

[soft night]

HevPals

[fathom wadi]

@median wraith IK attached or seperated?

[broken sigil]

Chaos first needs to be optimized to match physx because currently it runs like ass 😐
Or at least it was the last time I tested it

[median wraith]

I need balls on side scroll lets say @fathom wadi

[humble remnant]

It performed better than PhysX, at least on my non-Nvidia server

[median wraith]

X and Z

[fathom wadi]

ah

@broken sigil can't say I've tested it's performance but as long as I hit my target framerates, either suits me.

[median wraith]

I should go for it tomorrow

[humble remnant]

Also the fact that it works in a separate thread is a lifesaver

Physx can cause such humongous CPU lag when emulated

[fluid bloom]

are we talking about gpu physx or plain ol physx?

[broken sigil]

in my test it struggled with a lot of dynamic objects moving at once, can't remember the exact count but physx was at 15ms while chaos 40+ms

that is really really bad

[humble remnant]

I've seen the opposite result

I have a scene on a map that's 10x10 objects, all destructible into 200 chunks

[broken sigil]

and I'm not the only one, there are a ton of people reporting the same thing

[humble remnant]

Weird

Multithreading saves me in particular since neither of my PCs have a good single-core

Well, Ryzen 2700 @ 4.1 GHz, but that's not really fast either

But on my server that's a Xeon 6C12T @ 3.6 GHz, Chaos performs about twice faster

[fathom wadi]

it's all about the setup. One thing that physics taught me is 0.000001 as a value means a lot. If someone was to identically benchmark across a whole range of scenarios, it still wouldn't be accurate for everyone.

[humble remnant]

64-bit can't come soon enough

[broken sigil]

well destruction might be faster on chaos since it's meant for that but I'm talking about having a ton of individual rigid body objects moving at once

[fathom wadi]

128-bit is the new 64-bit. Ask the Atari Jaguar 😄

[humble remnant]

I see, for my projects the only massively moving thing is units, and destructibles are clientside only

So I have a layer of eye candy that isn't crucial to gameplay

[fathom wadi]

Imagine a floating point that was infinite in computing terms but you paid the price in performance/time-to-finish.

I'd use it to create the world's best lie detector. Then create a tiny implantable chip, and give it to all politicians, bankers and the top 1% and their CEOs. Of course, I'd be dead before I finish even telling people the idea when the men in black come to put two in the back of my.......

silence

[humble remnant]

I'm afraid that's illegal

[fathom wadi]

Speaking of governmental crimes. Julian Assange is still being tortured in prison. Easy to forget, hard to remember.

[fresh heath]

He could be pardoned by a certain someone...

[carmine frigate]

i tried a few chaos build but they were all so unstable

[fathom wadi]

me too. The last one I used, I went into the content examples and all the buildings fell down and shattered. Stupid thing. People died ffs.

[zinc matrix]

so you guys

coding nice games ye

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/HoussineMehnik/status/1339297949684277251?s=20 Most deserved Megagrant of the week?

Elhoussine Mehnik (@HoussineMehnik)

Very happy to announce that https://t.co/wifz8EAfVS has been awarded a #MegaGrant !

#UE4 #UnrealEngine #gamedev

Twitter · Dec 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

[median wraith]

yeah just spotted

I would give he 2

[fathom wadi]

aye

those Editor plugins are gold

I saw his most recent update on the detail panel customisation one and let me tell you. It saves you dozens of hours just studying the bullshit you go through to get it to work.

[median wraith]

the people should be educated about privacy on schools or something

people using their main name meeting randoms, then give their url to instagram and you get in their surname, even at times they take photos showing the whole ID card

and then you can even search their name and find a facebook with their house direction

nice....

I don't care but internet is so deep and filled with stupids so can be a danger

[fathom wadi]

we don't send our kids to school. I say school. It's a privately run business for profit who doesn't give a shit about your kids as long as they don't hold shares. So we home school. I would prefer they went to an academic place designed for learning instead of a meat grinder for profits, but nowhere in my town will let us in because we "don't follow the word of our lord and saviour Jesus Christ". Which I think is hypocritical AF considering the words "Jesus loves the little children". Yeah but if you don't believe in him, he thinks your kid is a c**t.

Best thing about home schooling so far has been seeing how quick they learn when you focus on them individually. In a class of 30 they would spend a year learning linear algebra and trigonometry. With focused and individual learning plans, I taught my son linear algebra in minutes. Literally 2 mins for him to grasp the concept, under an hour for him to figure it out himself. You can't buy that in any school that doesn't come with a 5k a term fee.

[median wraith]

I think home schooling here is illegal

Brain wash is a must

[fathom wadi]

I find a lot of people in the UK don't realise that school is required, but where is optional. We have to report our curriculum, give examples of what they have done (mostly logged online now and we print it out) and that happens every 6 months to a year. It's kinda random. The childcare side of it gives most people a reason why they cannot, but if you can do it, the benefits of home schooling are unfathomable depending on your child and how much you invest in them.

I told my kids when lockdown happened "You are about to get a headstart on a load of kids whose parents won't fill in the education gap. Use it".

[median wraith]

what are the bets for the first game for free at EGS ?

[fathom wadi]

Got to be a generic game to get the interest. Something within the past year would be ideal as everyones missed on games they wanted to play. I'm going with Death Stranding at a bet.

or did someone already give that away?

hmm nope doesn't seem so. Would be a good one if you ask me.

[fathom wadi]

Prison life sucks right?

use the hammer to break out

Were these actual rocks or painting rocks in editor?

displacement?

Never done snow. I should check it out in Blender as an exercise. Sounds fun.

so it orthogonally decyphers, from a plan view, where snow would land so to speak?

hmm quixel is a mystery to me too so I wouldn't know what you would do there to it. 😄

damn Pillars of Eternity Definitive edition free on EGS. That was an auto-buy for me 😄

[pure wagon]

New server thimbnail

[normal prism]

i n t e n s e

Pretty eye-catchy

[zinc matrix]

what is better for working with unreal engine. a 34" 21:9 monitor or a 42" 16:9 monitor?

[fathom wadi]

@zinc matrix cool. directly from the geometry too instead of fake n' bake with a cam.

@zinc matrix hands

[zinc matrix]

down

[fathom wadi]

Get a 34" 21:19 and move it closer until it's a 42"

[rich quiver]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/announcements-and-releases/1843949-unreal-engine-4-26-chaos-preview-now-available-on-the-epic-games-launcher chaos is back

[fathom wadi]

Honestly I have never even seen a curved widescreen monitor in real life oddly enough. Wouldn't know so im a standard 16:9 / 16:10 setup

@rich quiver aaaaaand now the magic begins. I know so many people who avoid source builds for such. Especially when they tried chaos early on and failed.

[rich quiver]

it got remove because the chaos car system broke

so know is back

[fresh heath]

Nice new server icon

Lmao https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/1339312480057782273

Rod Breslau (@Slasher)

Twitch now says that you can no longer call others 'simp', 'incel', and 'virgin' as they are now against TOS, along with any emotes relating to the term simp

Twitch baby, what is you doing?

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[rich quiver]

chaos vehicle is reason it got remove in for .26

until know

[fathom wadi]

this is the only meme right now. Chaos.

[fresh heath]

Fus Ro Dah!

[fathom wadi]

lol

I found an unopened copy of Elder Scrolls Online for the ps4 yesterday.

Im keeping it that way. 😄

[median wraith]

Means that nobody is virgin anymore then?

[fathom wadi]

nice

[carmine frigate]

that is a monkey

[fathom wadi]

it's the advanced cube.

https://twitter.com/gameinformer/status/1339323614072598530?s=20 oh dear. Did they not learn from EA and Star Wars? Or did they learn and just not care? 😄

Game Informer (@gameinformer)

Assassin's Creed Valhalla sells XP boosts now, though they were not part of the storefront when the game launched. https://t.co/zOLQcLpzNK

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Twitter · Dec 16, 2020, 9:36 PM

[rare sparrow]

Discord now has custom slash commands for bots https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/slash-commands

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/ke1p8b/we_can_now_make_custom_slash_commands_using_bots/

[bronze axle]

It's gonna be awesome.

Just waiting for discord.js to add support.

[fathom wadi]

my oh my. Been waiting on that since the first gen of dev api stuff.

[cursive crypt]

Enlighten me, why is that so good? 🤔

[fathom wadi]

if I told you, I'd have to kill you. ¬_¬

[bronze axle]

Because now bot commands will feel native to Discord.

[cursive crypt]

I don't write bots so I am not a competition 🙂

[fathom wadi]

but seriously. Imagine a unified multi-game Discord portal for guilds that access many games. Now you could have all your communication stuff in one place, nearly aligned with each other.

[bronze axle]

Type / in chat right now. Imagine Manny's commands being in that menu and working the same way, with autocomplete, validation, etc.

[cursive crypt]

You can use something different than !?

Hmm... I just discovered you can type / 😅

[bronze axle]

😄

Also: slash commands don't show in chat. Only the output does.

[cursive crypt]

So... It will allow users to communicate with bots in more streamlined way.

[bronze axle]

Right. Like I said, they will feel native to Discord. 🙂

Right now they're purely made up by bot developers.

Commands aren't a real thing in Discord. They're done by parsing messages for command prefixes and arguments.

[cursive crypt]

Well... You still need to write the bot so it can handle discords user / commands?

[bronze axle]

Yes, we still have to program the bot.

But now the concept of commands will be built into the API.

[cursive crypt]

I see... Thanks 👍

Might write one day a bot...

[bronze axle]

It's fun. You can do some very cool stuff with it.

[rare sparrow]

I'd write a bot if I could do it with blueprint

[humble remnant]

Heyyyy, I've just been doing a bot these days

Looks pretty good

[muted brook]

nah, just a huge part of the Twitch community falls under all three categories

[static cosmos]

anyone else have the epic launcher crash when exiting?

The last week or so every time I exit the launcher a few seconds later I get this popup. I don't have anything else open from unreal when I close it.

[median wraith]

Well is a launcher crash

You better hide your id's listed there

No idea if some stupid can use these for bad purposes

[tidal ivy]

they're hashes so they're not useful to anyone

[median wraith]

oh okay good to know

the main spanish youtuber got the youtube channel removed because show naked people in cyberpunk

hahahaah

wtf

is kinda absurd they remove it without a warning

[fresh heath]

http://c0de517e.blogspot.com/2020/12/hallucinations-re-rendering-of.html

[normal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/good-burger-some-of-these-gif-12933391

Some being a bit of an exaggeration actually, but it's cool to read anyway.

[timid tundra]

https://youtu.be/KhXP7yU_kf4

[humble remnant]

Damn that's a throwback

[zinc matrix]

so you decided that off-topic channel is your best bet? 🤔

#ue4-general is the general help channel.

[covert nest]

No going to lie.. yes xD

I'll take it to that channel. I don't like interrupting people .

[median wraith]

As Amber said

the list were fake and the todays game is CitySkylines

[grand coral]

Guys, it's just me, or Unreal Academy is down for a few days?

hmm, gonna ask guys from support then, maybe it is an account issue

[fluid bloom]

https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000007688939.html

bow down before us

[rich quiver]

https://twitter.com/FNCreate/status/1339620051134144512 first tease of 2020 in review is fornite mod tool

Fortnite Creative (@FNCreate)

Tune into the Inside Unreal: Year in Review stream at 2PM ET today for a glimpse at some new #FortniteCreative tools we are working on for next year 🎁

Catch the stream:
→ In-game on the Big Screen in Party Royale
→ On Twitch: https://t.co/VbLVvid1W0

See you there!

Twitter · Dec 17, 2020, 5:14 PM

[normal prism]

😂

Epic

[carmine frigate]

ahh fortnite mod editor, i just became godlike amongst 12year olds 😛

[rich quiver]

all i need is UE5 editor teaser or close date

this mod editor will be Epic 3 mod editor

[fresh heath]

https://www.blender.org/press/aws-joins-the-blender-development-fund/

[median wraith]

@rich quiver I mean UE5 is basically UE4

🤖

Actually they are porting features they named from UE5 to UE4 if I see it properly

[rich quiver]

looks like it

in the picture is also tease of new script system

[median wraith]

jesus

!!!!????¿¿¿¡¡¡¡¡

emojis driven

[carmine frigate]

@median wraith when that happens quit the game tho

*shutdown

[rich quiver]

https://venturebeat.com/2019/01/23/epic-games-buys-scripting-tool-maker-agog-labs-for-unreal-engine-4/#:~:text=Epic Games buys scripting tool maker Agog Labs for Unreal Engine 4,-Dean Takahashi%40deantak&text=Agog's founders are now working for Epic Games.&text=The deal — the second in,Epic's Unreal Engine 4 platform. A year ago

[carmine frigate]

if code thats run = garbage [shutdown]

[rich quiver]

this agog labs new scripting system for UE4

[median wraith]

@zinc matrix OH NO

[pearl compass]

be fair. 4.28

[carmine frigate]

the engine is diffrent the editor wil be the same 😛

[pearl compass]

what if instead, the engine is the same, and just the UI is different?

[carmine frigate]

its UE5 not UE4 remastered

[median wraith]

okay okay 4.28 xd

[pearl compass]

just like UE4 wasnt UDK remastered? lmfao

[carmine frigate]

UE4 GOTY

[median wraith]

UE4 is a refactor from UDK, this isn't even that at all

what I'm fine with

[pearl compass]

considering what we already had with kismet, I'd call it a sidestep

[median wraith]

https://www.twitch.tv/turtlerockstudios

[carmine frigate]

if ur turned the right way u can make a sidestep forward

[pearl compass]

that would be a TURN and step.

[median wraith]

for some reason I don't like any of these games and now I'm a total hater ?

[pearl compass]

the engine is still literally litered with kismet.*

I mean, looks like a mindless shooter, which some people like.

[rich quiver]

form the maker of L4D make a successor

[pearl compass]

"We want to keep working with the community to make the game better".... this is new-indie speak for "We have no clear idea nor business plan"

[neon crystal]

hey can anyone tell me how i can make a section loop in a montage?

[median wraith]

Evolve Creators

"the sound effect is so visual"

my problem isn't is a good or bad game

is they just copy other games and paste it

so at the end what this have to add to my exp that didn't do games I played already

[pearl compass]

Have you looked around the world? Iteration > Innovation. I think we had this convo 4 years ago. 😄

its easier for humans to copy, than create new

[rich quiver]

they copy there own game

[median wraith]

yeah that aswell lol

[pearl compass]

yes, and now ask the "community" to help make it good. lel

[rich quiver]

tutle rock did left 4 dead

[median wraith]

I'm in the feel they made even a worst game

[pearl compass]

Agreed.

[rich quiver]

card system

[pearl compass]

Its like they took the worst parts of Rogues and Warframe and added that to 6 year old FPS combat mechanics. gg.

[median wraith]

yeah the card system, the rest is somethign they added and don't even know why but COD have it

about the visuals are good on their style

this is UE4 ?

to me looks like someone took Warface and build it over it

aka Cryengine, they used it before

[rich quiver]

this is ue4

[median wraith]

oh yeah is UE4

and include microtransations

clearly better than L4D already

[rich quiver]

balance the cards will be the only problem forward

[humble remnant]

Can't we get a fucking game without leveling up for fucking once

Fucking please

Also aiming down iron sights

[humble remnant]

Can we go back to boomer shooters and consider that before slapping everything on iron sights

[median wraith]

yeah the cards looks total game changers

this reminds me of the 2010 F2P games

[humble remnant]

I'm much less interested in that game now that I see this progression system ngl

[median wraith]

+10% sprint
-200% accuracy

Look mom now can choose between 100 options that are totally useless, rather than just 3 fixed balanced

[humble remnant]

Like, I know L4D2 is an old game now

[humble remnant]

But why can't games be more like it

[median wraith]

and in game currency

[humble remnant]

Legit

You have a campaign and it has a random amount of goodies in it

That's all

No need for fake retention creating progression systems

[median wraith]

nobody likes that, play for skins boomer

[rich quiver]

https://www.back4blood.com/en-us/purchase so every so months a new episode for story mode

[humble remnant]

Why does everything need to be a live service now

[median wraith]

that means the base game comes with the tutorial

[humble remnant]

It's so disgusting

[median wraith]

let me see some real gameplay

[rich quiver]

fortnite and mobile success

[humble remnant]

Not even mobile is the reason now

[rich quiver]

i know

[humble remnant]

And all that "well, the rest of the content comes later"

Too many games these days are just "in a year the game will be what it should've been at launch"

Fuck CAAApitalism

[median wraith]

There is a main problem in this world, and it comes from the common end user or every single product.
And its the fact the people never search and compare by themselves

[carmine frigate]

players used to host the servers 😛

you cant even get away with that on a card game these days 😛

[cursive crypt]

yay, that twitch has some special guests today 😄

[bronze axle]

It'll be a fun one.

[cursive crypt]

Need to find myself a red hat too 🎅

[median wraith]

Lord Tim

[rich quiver]

https://www.twitch.tv/unrealengine is live

[median wraith]

Tim have a ray traced room

you can see the reflection there

just it don't work in characters

[cursive crypt]

Its for unmovable objects

[rare sparrow]

Man, this twitch chat.. I guess this is to be expected when you tweet the stream out to Fortnite kids

[cursive crypt]

Its flyin' (the chat).

[bronze axle]

Yeah, there are some... let's say interesting characters in Twitch chat right now. lol

[rich quiver]

because of fortnite tweet

[median wraith]

yeah kinda bad

[rich quiver]

lawsuits parts lol

[bronze axle]

It was inevitably going to be brought up.

[rare sparrow]

[cursive crypt]

I'm not following up on that topic, so might hear something.

[rich quiver]

this case to lower the cut can last like 10 years

[cursive crypt]

A lot of $$$

[rich quiver]

UE5 time Pog

[bronze axle]

Temper your expectations. It's a year in review stream, so probably no news.

[median wraith]

kids now are missing fornite and the UE5 demo

in their head this is the new update

[rich quiver]

[rare sparrow]

-Bucks

[bronze axle]

Oh no.

[median wraith]

hahahaah

what you have done

[bronze axle]

Wait are you suggesting V Bucks were hinting at UE5 all along?

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-8902231

[rare sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-simpsons-bush-bushes-hermit-gif-5786484

[pearl compass]

Dont use for paying people, use ... a

[median wraith]

Man this demo and the missing GI

I wish

Grayson Edge lives in the demo France apartment from the marketplace

🤪

[bronze axle]

lol

[pearl compass]

@median wraith you are gonna be super mad when all those mobile gem games come out with full raytracing and realtime GI.

Its funny how people watch that footage from Weta and think: UE5 ... I got this.

[rare sparrow]

Why aren't they talking about Fortnite Creative

[median wraith]

@pearl compass mobile realtime GI ? soon ?

when GI releases I will be mad at the poor control it gives to me, let me set that prediction

[pearl compass]

I think its more laughing at the joke people continually think they need more.

[pearl compass]

haha, that is built into the game. They know how YOU will use it best. THEY know.

[median wraith]

Yeah there is a point like when they release the GPU lightmaps computing where you see old results and says, wait how I were living without this quality ?

On my case is more about actual game features affected by the visual limitations than anything else

dropped the idea of realism time ago, when noticed that maintain an indie game that's 500GB isn't a good deal

[coral stratus]

Hi everyone.

[median wraith]

Welcome to the cave @coral stratus

[coral stratus]

Thank you @median wraith .

[median wraith]

@pearl compass there was light artist giving me tips about how use a custom light system I did with limitations etc without them see or use it, that was fun

is welcome but kinda dared

[coral stratus]

I recently started work on a computer game project in the Unreal Engine and I'm having some difficulty with figuring out certain things. If anyone would like to help me with figuring out how to do certain things in the Unreal Engine, my DMs are open.

[thorny dock]

https://www.blender.org/press/aws-joins-the-blender-development-fund/

[rich quiver]

UE5 ad

[broken sigil]

jesus UE stream is full of 9 year olds 😐

[median wraith]

@broken sigil how dare you sir

are 11

[broken sigil]

lol

chat asking for fortnite news not realizing this is an "UNREAL ENGINE" stream

[rare sparrow]

This is why https://twitter.com/FNCreate/status/1339620051134144512

Fortnite Creative (@FNCreate)

Tune into the Inside Unreal: Year in Review stream at 2PM ET today for a glimpse at some new #FortniteCreative tools we are working on for next year 🎁

Catch the stream:
→ In-game on the Big Screen in Party Royale
→ On Twitch: https://t.co/VbLVvid1W0

See you there!

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[median wraith]

they are about talk about the future

let me tell you the next year is the Chinese Ox year

[rich quiver]

yup

[thorny dock]

where can I get an unreal engine christmas sweater??

also of course tim sweeney has his OG apple II in the background, respect

[solid aurora]

ow shit

full editor

that's like

game changer for fortnite

[rich quiver]

it a modify editor

[thorny dock]

hahaha they have a blur code comments tool

[solid aurora]

probabaly full of shits and fucks

speaking from my comments

[median wraith]

I'm lost

this is for fortnite ?

or for all

[thorny dock]

oh it's a pre recorded video

[bronze axle]

Yes, this is a new custom editor for Fortnite it seems.

Next step for Fortnite Creative I think.

Introducing the Fortnite folks to deeper tools in Unreal. 🙂

[rich quiver]

well yeah no code snip ect. ect.

[median wraith]

so kinda like they did with UT4 ?

[rich quiver]

yes

[solid aurora]

it's perfect

[thorny dock]

So cool that they do that, Epic is all about getting people explore their potential

[solid aurora]

they are making sure

[broken sigil]

😐

[solid aurora]

people will be in ue ecosystem

new generation of level designers used to unreal engine

perfect move

[cursive crypt]

I kinda don't get it. Is that "inside" the game, or its just your casual editor you can use to edit some world?

[solid aurora]

it's full ue editor

[rich quiver]

is a super limit ue edior

[cursive crypt]

But... point is, it edits some Fortnite world?

[solid aurora]

no

File -> New Map

make whatever you want

[rich quiver]

no

[broken sigil]

yeah that live editing thing is 👌

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... it seems so. It's live editing an world.

[solid aurora]

ooo

FUCK

scripting

0o

[bronze axle]

Uh oh.

[rich quiver]

new scripting 👀

[median wraith]

.verse

[broken sigil]

wtf is that syntax 👀

[median wraith]

so you can write poems

[solid aurora]

so blueprints not that easy in the end 😄

ok

don;t get excited

this scripting won't be used as main thing for UE5

[median wraith]

there is no access to the Blueprints

just in case

[cursive crypt]

Some dls thing 🤔

[bronze axle]

Looks kind of like a mix of Swift and JS.

[median wraith]

this looks like someone made a Python script runtime reader that just execute round things

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, hi-level interpretation for specific purposes (fortnite)

[broken sigil]

coming from C# and C++ this verse syntax thing looks really weird

[cursive crypt]

Hm? Looks pretty basic imperative

[fringe sundial]

its skokum script v2

[bronze axle]

Yeah most likely.

[solid aurora]

either way

I wouldn't use it for game

to implicit

[cursive crypt]

lol, depends. If you do modding and stuff, you may like it 🙂

[coral stratus]

Where do I go to ask someone for help with converting a Mixamo character into a usable character in Unreal 4?

[solid aurora]

ok for making game i wouldn't use it (;

[broken sigil]

if(SomeFunction() ? )
SomeVariable := true
Wut 👀

[solid aurora]

:= is pretty common

it is assigment

[cursive crypt]

That ? tho

[broken sigil]

:= is pretty common
yeah this is first time seeing it for me coming from C languages lol

[median wraith]

:0

[cursive crypt]

lmao, fortnite users really filled in that chat

[coral stratus]

@median wraith , May I talk to you in DMs?

[cursive crypt]

If he asks you to send him 💰 , don't

[fresh heath]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-the-year-2020-half-life-alyx/1100-6485617/

[median wraith]

if you need support is better if you go some channel for it

if is for adults things then choose the best you like from the mod list at the top right and send to he

🤖

[median wraith]

well if gives me money is accepted too

so what it is for

[cursive crypt]

lol

[thorny dock]

Victor sure has his work cut out for him..

[median wraith]

@coral stratus feel free to ask, was a joke

[cursive crypt]

Nah, gone... we are all flames here for newcomers

[median wraith]

The stream finished

[mint anvil]

[QUESTION] : Will we get boss mythics in creative

[thorny dock]

I really want those christmas sweaters

[broken sigil]

!8ball Will we get boss mythics in creative?

[turbid spindle]

@broken sigil, :8ball: It is certain.

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-facepalm-shit-muppets-gif-5156531

[thorny dock]

!ask will santa bring me an unreal engine christmas sweater?

[turbid spindle]

@thorny dock, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

[median wraith]

!ask will be cyberpunk ever fixed ?

[turbid spindle]

@median wraith, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

@plucky pagoda, :8ball: It is certain.

[bronze axle]

lol

[median wraith]

this bot only says good things, go away

🤖

[mint anvil]

!ask do i have a life

[turbid spindle]

@mint anvil, :8ball: Most likely.

[mint anvil]

thats a lie

[cursive crypt]

!ask is it time for bed?

[turbid spindle]

@cursive crypt, :8ball: Cannot predict now.

[cursive crypt]

huh

I'm hanging out here in an undefined state.

[median wraith]

@cursive crypt I were expected he to reply you something more like:
Centain it's time for us to go the bed

[turbid spindle]

@plucky pagoda, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[cursive crypt]

"us"? lmao, no

[median wraith]

yeah you and the bot

🤖

[broken sigil]

!8ball should I waste more of my time on playing games?

[turbid spindle]

@broken sigil, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

[broken sigil]

nice

[median wraith]

man

don't ask such questions in public

its ob

[fresh heath]

!8ball Should I write my own game engine?

[turbid spindle]

@fresh heath, :8ball: As I see it, yes.

[fresh heath]

Well

[broken sigil]

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Ask again later.

[thorny dock]

this is amazing work 😂

https://twitter.com/HosseinDibaArt/status/1339665712130961408

Hossein Diba (@HosseinDibaArt)

I worked a bit more on my #GTA characters. I updated the faces, bodies and poses and put them all together in one frame.

Likes

155

Twitter · Dec 17, 2020, 8:16 PM

[median wraith]

yeah followed the guy over the months at Instagram

the other version from GTA 4 he had were more "sexy"

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIYpaF8BHLA/

@plucky pagoda whats that

that face of Niko from instagram

100/10

[thorny dock]

hahaha it does look much sexier, but think it does go off in it's own direction, which is probably why he later changed it

but tbh would rather play gta4 with sexy nico

[median wraith]

yeah it pass from Featured on Tunder to the actual Niko

that was my fav GTA

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-sweater-gif-7322066

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/rockpapershot/status/1339668725688102917

Rock Paper Shotgun (@rockpapershot)

Spotify is now on the Epic Games Store, for some reason - https://t.co/KUuFISKGda

Twitter · Dec 17, 2020, 8:28 PM

[bronze axle]

[cursive crypt]

lol
Is it by the producer or its an impostor :)

[median wraith]

its official

it seems

Spotify noticed I'm making a music player and don't want to me take their position

🤪

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1339673654288912389

John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)

It is great how the relatively open PC platform allows you to capture traces and analyze the latest commercial games. I wince a bit as I note that I haven’t personally implemented most of the “standard techniques” of the modern AAA rendering engine. https://t.co/3iADa1ObLY

Likes

160

Twitter · Dec 17, 2020, 8:47 PM

[median wraith]

I was expecting a fight between Elon and John in the aerospace rocket launch

[green tartan]

Very nice logo for the server

Lol

[median wraith]

oh good news

someone made a mp3 decoder and other audo formats so maybe can move the whole audio system outside of SDL2

👀

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/MjTheHunter/status/1339339288589324291?s=19

Morten Jaeger (@MjTheHunter)

This has got to be my favorite feature of Cyberpunk.
Don't like the cars you see, just look away and they change 👌 https://t.co/JlDYsO4AYq

Likes

291

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 16, 2020, 10:39 PM

I remember when the people made fun of watch dogs 1, tbh was a nice game to me

This game have nowhere even the logics for an open world game seriously

[humble remnant]

It's optimization times a kphjillion

Except it's not even optimized somehow

You can't have things that change in an open world simply from rotating

[fresh heath]

I think GTA does the same thing, but maybe less blatantly

[median wraith]

Never happened to me on 4 or 5 or watch dogs etc games

[broken sigil]

Umm that might be a bug in CP
I don't think it's doing that for me, I know for sure cars are staying when I look around and turn back

[humble remnant]

Maybe aggressive garbage collection?

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/CardySimon/status/1339738799732117505?s=19

Simon Cardy (@CardySimon)

Cyberpunk has been removed from the PlayStation Store. Didn't see that one coming.

Twitter · Dec 18, 2020, 1:06 AM

[true ridge]

Hi all, I am new to this unreal engine. BUT I lost my games in epic games launcher, all what I can see is the marketplace for games dev. which I do not want it now. any help?

[true ridge]

Finally I got it. it is from settings > hide game library

[agile sage]

unreal engine will propagate all the curves into slaves

[humble remnant]

The gamers won

[dim ruin]

Anyone else remember when the 30xx gen GPUs were unveiled and those low prices they quoted they'd be. 😂 That was cute

[unborn lotus]

add EU vat and taxes and most prices are about double the US msrp

[harsh garnet]

I think that happened with the GTX cards too. There was a big shortage cause of crypto nerds.

[dim ruin]

I was looking out of morbid curiosity and seen even the 3070s, the lowest of the tier (other than 3060ti) are more than a 1080 ti lol

[harsh garnet]

Well they are probably more than 10X faster.

[dim ruin]

for now anyway.

yeah they are, but thats not the point

the whole thing with this gen was that the improvement was more than a normal gen leap forward and at a third or less of the normal price

[harsh garnet]

Ah. I just stay 2 or 3 behind anyway. :p

Still happy with my 1050.

For now. I will need RTX right away though.

[unborn lotus]

I paid 300$ for my 1060, soo when is a 200$ much faster card coming? 😔

[dim ruin]

I'm still on a 960. I will finally upgrade with this gen but not at the extorted prices right now lol
It's all reseller poachers at the moment

[harsh garnet]

Yeah I tend to just get used ones and burn them out.

I MIGHT go with a bigger 30xx this time though as I have some professional endevours that could use the horsepower this time.

[dim ruin]

no shame in that. when a crypto miner is done with their rig, the gpu still has TONS of life left in it, despite what would seem obvious. These devices are very resilient

[static cosmos]

I hate steam so much.

When 2 controllers are plugged in, the first controller controls player 2 and player 1 is controlled by the keyboard.```

[rare mauve]

10x faster wat you mean 10% faster? lol

[harsh garnet]

3070 than a 1080?

Ok, its definitely not 10X its a little more than 2X TFLOPs

Now that I look it up

[rare mauve]

they'll be like 20-50% faster lol. 1.2 to 1.5 times

[harsh garnet]

Its not subjective.

[dim ruin]

compare the number of cuda cores between gens. its crazy

[harsh garnet]

Its 9TFLOPs vs 20TFLOPs

And then add on all the new architecture for raytracing and whatnot

Its weird to compare the 70 to the 80 anyway.

The 3080 is 30

[dim ruin]

its just the point that the lowest card in this gen is magnitudes better than the top card in the last gen

its a big leap

[rare mauve]

not even one order of magnitude but anyway. indeed, it's f a s t e r

[harsh garnet]

Well. Its many orders of magnitude faster if you are trying to raytrace.

[dim ruin]

not according the reviews out there

[harsh garnet]

Considering the 1080 doesn't even have raytracing hardware.

[rare mauve]

[north torrent]

Raytracing is life.

[dim ruin]

the leap from 20x to 30x has been considered to be like an advancement of 3 generations. That's why this gen is such a big deal

[harsh garnet]

I feel like GTX to RTX was a way bigger deal

Horsepower isn't even the limiting factor.

Still haven't found a game that doesn't run fine on my 1050, so.

But I'm happy this will make the 20xx cheap. Cause I'll probably buy some for work stations.

[rare mauve]

they hype up every gen like this. then it comes and it's just another 20-30% more FPS or something, heh

[harsh garnet]

Oh yeah but its not all about FPS (unless you are a gamer I guess)

I mean ok I guess it kind of boils down to FPS, but raytracing, ML, all that.

[rare mauve]

yeah, it's neat to see new tech.

[harsh garnet]

People just crank it up until it doesn't run good anymore anyway.

Change one line of code and now your game can crush a 3080.

[rare mauve]

@static cosmos just go full troll and tell gaben that your keyboard identifies as a controller and he's oppressing your keebs

[static cosmos]

The worst part is I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow for steam to get back to me, and by then, it'll be the weekend which means they won't approve it before next week

[rare mauve]

aw :[

[static cosmos]

There were a couple of very minor issues that were technically a problem. Like we have "steam achievements" tagged, but didn't implement them yet (early access) and we forgot to tick the boxes to include some redistributables, but they could have easily ticked the boxes on those and approved the package.

everything else they complained about is just their own cluelessness along the lines of that.

it was the same thing with our demo. just stupidity on their part. As soon as I sent a message asking what was going on with the reviewers, it was approved.

Does anyone know if the copy sent to steam to be approved should be fully "unlocked"? We have a progression system, and Johnny Superstar Reviewer noted that they couldn't "find" certain sections from our trailer in the game. Which is right, because you have to play a little bit and then that part will be unlocked.

[median wraith]

Winners of most anticipated game of 2020 🤪

[foggy path]

Sounded like it was kinda bad on ps4

I have like 40 hours on it on PC so far

[median wraith]

Their prices make no sense since vat is 25% as they do ala Microsoft is doing since a year at steam charging 70€ for 50$

[median wraith]

Didn't know that steam test that

[static cosmos]

I think someone was trying hard to justify their paycheque today

[median wraith]

You can un check that by default

And should be done isn't it?

[median wraith]

How's the 4.26 working by the way is stable?

[static cosmos]

They can literally uncheck it themselves, it isn't cemented into place.

the gamepad is capable of unchecking it.

[median wraith]

yeah but just set it by default I mean

[sage ermine]

HEV

How you been?

Ho ho ho 🙂

[median wraith]

I was a good kid this year @sage ermine

🤖

how about you ?

[sage ermine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cbc-schitts-creek-Plg2YiMyO2T1wK8PZE

Not too bad if I don't say so myself 🙂

[neon crystal]

Hello i am stuck at a part in the montage section, I am following along a tutorial but if i make a montage from a jumping animation it looks alot different, most likely to the different versions but now i do not know how to make sections loop. Could someone help me out with that?

[fervent crystal]

I want the Tim sweeney Christmas jumper it looked awesome

[median wraith]

@sage ermine well then is a bit good, depends of the view

[red pewter]

Looks like we finally know what valkyrie is... kind of

The dev stream showed them in the dev-valkyrie branch

[fluid bloom]

I bet the game had ride of the valkyries in the beginning of a match

like so https://tubedubber.com/?q=2gUtfBmw86Y:GGU1P6lBW6Q:0:100:0:30:1

[solid aurora]

It actually make sense. ECS systems are far easier to extend than what we have now

and easier to make idiot proof in terms of performance

[fringe sundial]

and if you still want to boneheadedly keep the Actor hierarchy + components, typical pure ECS libs can do it by just connecting an "actor component" that wraps it

[red pewter]

it still remains to be seen if this is something we can actually use or just a backend for level editing stuff

[fringe sundial]

the current system for static meshes and general level objects in unreal is incredibly stupid

[red pewter]

I really wonder what the "build scripts" button does

[fringe sundial]

the whole concept of a StaticMesh actor is beyond retarded

each object in the map has an absolutely huge amount of overhead just from Actor random properties + SceneComponent random properties that it does not need

even if the rumored ecs is hidden and it just converts placed meshes into ecs optimized formats, the memory gains would be really huge

[red pewter]

new scripting language (verse) looks great so far though

[fringe sundial]

i just hope it doesnt run on the blueprint VM

tho looking at the language it seems to be very high level

such a high level language doesnt really need a lot of perf, but still, blueprint vm should just be left as deprecated

the fact that Nativization exists should be enough reason

[red pewter]

skookum didn't iirc?

[normal prism]

Pardon, in my ignorance, what would you replace the BP VM with? Wouldn't you need the VM for BPs in general?

[fringe sundial]

@normal prism why says you need a vm?

these days llvm is a thing

you can just compile directly into real code

[normal prism]

Automagically? I think nativization had some considerations and pitfalls right?

[fringe sundial]

even then, you could compile your scripting language into WebASM, and for WebASM there are some god tier JIT interpreters and not-jit VMs that are easily 20x faster than BPs

@normal prism it has pitfalls because the blueprint VM was designed 25 years ago

if you are making a new language you can make it transparently compile into cpp from the start

or not even cpp, just compile directly into LLVM

thats why they shouldnt do the new lang on top of BP{

if they do

[normal prism]

Does this have any near-term implications for scripting in Unreal? What your saying sounds like it'd be very doable to add other languages for scripting in unreal.

[fringe sundial]

they inherit all of BP root 100% unsolvable issues

if they are making a new lang, bypassing BP would be easy

it would take as much work making it run on top of BP as it would make it run into a new VM or get JIT-ed through llvm

[red pewter]

https://skookum.chat/t/skookumscript-performance/500/2

[fringe sundial]

i know because ive made stuff like that myself (toy langs)

@red pewter script language vms still suck

you want a proper jit

and more than just a proper jit. You want coroutines and threads

so that you can run scripts in parallel

if i was making a new language for scripts (which i actually might help make), multithreading and fibers would be extremelly important and there from day 1

[red pewter]

we don't do that multithreading gameplay code thing around these parts

[fringe sundial]

for example, when you have to Tick() 100 objects

you create 100 "fake-threads"

for the script VM

the script VM then splits those across the worker threads

and when one of the fake-threads hits a mutex, or a lock, or has to stop for any reason

the VM just flips to the next object and continues execution with no wait

[normal prism]

This sounds really exciting

[fringe sundial]

most important, this is something that doesnt really exist. IF you were to make a new scripting lang for these days, this would be a very important thing to add

i know a project helmed by lunatics who are making an MMO engine, and said lunatics are writing their own script language for it

said script language will jit-compile into real code and do this threaded fuckery i just explained

so it will not only be as fast as Cpp, but will also be much better for multithreading

[red pewter]

https://skookumscript.com/about/faq/#qst-vm does this inspire confidence? I have no clue how a "runtime structures binary" works

[fringe sundial]

sounds still like a VM

btw, on the topic of said team of utter lunatics making an mmo engine

they already have engine that is 100x faster than ue4

[solid aurora]

all that being said Epic worked on llvm backend for blueprints

[fringe sundial]

@solid aurora yes, but they couldnt get it to work

probably due to blueprint design

[solid aurora]

yeah

I don't know what is going on behind the scenes exactly

[fringe sundial]

given the problems nativization gives, i can see it very clearly myself

[solid aurora]

but blueprints might stay here with llvm

[fringe sundial]

blueprint vm just doesnt transfer well into actual code

[solid aurora]

something like Blueprint 2.0

[red pewter]

does it try to go BP>nativised>ilvm? nativised bps are unreadable to me

[fringe sundial]

@red pewter yes, but it goes through llvm cpp compiler

[solid aurora]

either way

[fringe sundial]

or visual studio cpp compiler

[solid aurora]

push for performance internally is huge

[fringe sundial]

the idea of that llvm thing is that you bypass the cpp side

you convert from blueprints into machine code directly

[solid aurora]

mainly due to support for simulation, and solar system scale maps

[fringe sundial]

without going trhough cpp

[normal prism]

At least hearing that there's more a focus on these things is already good news

[fringe sundial]

well, its ue4 biggest issue

the renderer is very fancy, but its "big maps" performance is atrocious

look at some games like final fantasy 7, which were made of very small maps stitched and streamed together

same thing on kingdom hearts

stuff like Ark and Conan performs terrible

you cant make something like Ubisoft Open world RPG # 6234 in unreal

[red pewter]

I was really impressed with Satisfactory at least (although it doesn't have a lot of props besides your heavily isntanced factory meshes)

[fringe sundial]

satisfactory uses some top tier trickery

as far as i know (not fully sure) their factory simulation is completely outside of unreal engine

it only really uses unreal for rendering

[solid aurora]

which i Guess is till huge overhead

[fringe sundial]

and in there they do tricks for days. For example they run instanced meshes for all placed objects with vertex animation in the material. Only some objects (manufacturers) are skeletal mesh actors

[solid aurora]

just by translating the studpid values into world space -;-

[fringe sundial]

they use logical LOD @solid aurora

you can see that pretty clear in the belts

for belted objects far into the distance they run at less FPS

but the "background" simulation still goes at full speed no matter what, for the whole map

[normal prism]

Magicians

[fringe sundial]

they also convert the skeletal meshes for manufacturers into non-animated instanced static meshes in the distance

[red pewter]

I remember factorio having a crazy post on how they worked out gaps in belts etc

[fringe sundial]

factorio is just next level

their technology is absolutely insane

[red pewter]

impossibly well optimized game

[fringe sundial]

factorio is an example of how a properly made game can move incredibly huge amounts of objects

every single object in a belt is fully simulated every tick

every fluid pipe is simulated

everything is allways simulated for the entire map. No lods, no trickery

the sheer amount of objects factorio moves is completely insane

[normal prism]

How does it do that every single tick?

[fringe sundial]

good code

they dont have bullshit oop classes, or random abstractiosn

they have code that does 1 thing, for 1000 objects at once, and its fully designed around that