in spain
#lounge
median wraith
I mean there is 200 mutations of the virus from what someone said
idk
the virus is racist
and kill mans over woman
up 3/4 ratio
so is Hembrism ?
cursive crypt
no
median wraith
oh then isn't an exchange, just add
ty
EmberGen looks nice tbh
but isn't a money as solo indie I can pay just for specific particles
mossy nexus
Meh, covid vaccines.. so many people choosing to believe that the ingredients are weird and immoral or whatever. I really worry about humans. Naa people are stupid in any great numbers.
ancient hornet
nova notch
My friend lives in Cuba and has no internet at home(sucks). How would be the best way to send to him the engine so he can install and use it. Is there a .exe somewhere that would allow him to get it running?
zinc matrix
e
nova notch
good call. So download installer. Run it and download 4.25 to the pendrive.
median wraith
I think yeah, I don't know how legal it can be but
cursive crypt
20EU for 128? Man, this has changed the past 10 years when I used a drive.
cursive crypt
I would suggest that you stuff a lot of other goodies too. If he has troubles with internet, he won't be able to look at tutorials, free stuff and whatnot.
I have an acquaintance of mine who is from Cuba too. He left it many years ago.
ember wasp
sup, does the #freelance-jobs chat resets periodically?
distant vale
I know what a pointer is, it's a memory address essentially, and the reference is just the value, or the address itself. A pointer 'points' to an address
I know a lot of things, but I seem to fail a lot of technical coding tests because of certain knowledge lol
Oh yeah
MyCustomArray* myArray = new MyCustomArray();
as an example
worthy oasis
I know a lot of things, but I seem to fail a lot of technical coding tests becau...
tbh you can pass most coding tests if you do 'divide and conquer'
distant vale
tbh you can pass most coding tests if you do 'divide and conquer'
What do you mean?
I seem to do okay on some of them, but then I think I just don't practice enough. As an example by the way, I took a test with a company but forgot some really basic stuff in the language that the test was in and because I didn't study, I looked like a fool lol
But I could have done the exact same thing but in Java without any issues for example
Because I remember syntax for Java, but not for Ruby
Not sure if I'll have the time to do that
I have used UE4 a lot honestly to make two games and worked on some teams as well to publish stuff.
I don't have any major problems with UE4, it's mostly just failing these interviews lol
worthy oasis
if you have to implement an algorithm in some kind of fast way you will probably do it in a way that you divide the problem in sub problems until you can solve the problem.
distant vale
if you have to implement an algorithm in some kind of fast way you will probably...
What do you mean by divide the problem
mossy nexus
[problem]/[problem]=[smaller.problem]
distant vale
Wouldn't it be more effective to just take a course on it
mossy nexus
Sounds like an analysis issue. Something like BSAD
mossy nexus
Just different levels micro/macro
distant vale
I was goin to do this one
Lolol
I mean to put this into perspective, I already work at a company doing software engineering for a federal contractor doing Unity3D military simulations lol
mossy nexus
Online courses are like wiping your ass with sandpaper. Sure it can work short term, but it will hurt on the long run.
cursive crypt
❤️ C++
worthy oasis
What do you mean by `divide the problem`
Yeah divide the problem usually makes more sense if you have some big problem you have to solve and then you will divide the problem in smaller problems like functions to solve it, that's more a theoretical term. But in theory you can do something similar in c++ like how would you create a sorted list for 2d positions.
distant vale
Thats fucking harsh, holy shit lol. Why were they "bad?"
i don't think online courses are that bad, just look at what's being taught lol
Oh wow. I'm the opposite. On that Ruby interview, even though I was not able to quickly resolve the issue on the interview (coding test), the guy was like "wow you solved it, and we really want to hire you for a more junior position, we just saw you go from not knowing anything to resolving a problem in a language you have never used before."
lol
foggy path
it's hard to check for personality problems like those in interviews
worthy oasis
What do you mean by `divide the problem`
what I mean by that is more how you can write something like that. To sort for example 2d positions you would implement a kd-tree, which essentially divides the xy space until all points fit in the subspaces. That's pretty much what you can do for a lot of stuff to write a faster algorithm.
foggy path
you'd probably have to probe them about their working style and what they think of your tooling stack or something
yeah that's how it goes sometimes
I think with real experienced interviewers you could sort it out but I don't think everyone really has those kinds of people around
distant vale
thats me :^)
idk man the whole idea of just being fired after 6 months from probation issues
i think honestly
its best to not go into engineering
just stay in IT
at least IT is easy
With IT you are guaranteed to have a job
foggy path
@zinc matrix lol yeah I remember hearing about that
then there was that thing where they wanted to hire someone to work using some tool, and the fucking author of the tool applied and was rejected because he wasn't good enough with the tool
I don't remember which company / tool that was though
distant vale
IT > Software Engineering for job stability prove me wrong
cursive crypt
Depends...
mossy nexus
4.26 is live.. maybe that's old news
cursive crypt
I wouldn't say.
mossy nexus
Yes, but use both sides!
cursive crypt
We have many ITs and say 30+ sw devs... There is equal I/O flow.
mossy nexus
I was a server once. Silver service in the Officers Mess.
distant vale
yep. Also, I think software engineering is a dangerous job profession in terms of trying to raise a family (job stability), because the person who is in charge of you, your lead, your senior, is going to compare you to themselves. And because of this, you will most likely never measure up because of the ego. But in IT, it's about whether or not you can reset passwords, keep servers running...etc
mossy nexus
It wasn't showing up as an update in the launcher, I just saw a vid on youtube, and did it anyway
So you were locked up in a small room under the stairs??
distant vale
lol me either
mossy nexus
Harry.. is that you?
distant vale
Harry?
._.
I think ue 4.26 is supposed to be good
Im working on a game with my roommate
mossy nexus
They aare all good. It's the bugs that aren't 😄
distant vale
We need to make the decision as well
carmine frigate
p7 is kinda unstable, p2 was horrid
mossy nexus
News just in... Preview Versions Buggy As Hell Shocker!
distant vale
when is 4.26 coming out
mossy nexus
7.56 without the mobile stuff etc
mossy nexus
when is 4.26 coming out
A few mins ago
mossy nexus
Oh really?
Yarp
Yeah, or restart it
They are sneaky.. bet those extras are back in
The single most hated thing of any new project
normal prism
when is 4.26 coming out
mossy nexus
You mean deactivate it surely?
Old news @normal prism at least 5 minutes old.
Oh which reminds me @normal prism ...
normal prism
Old news <@!232215194984644611> at least 5 minutes old.
Brother, do you really expect me to be faster than even you? I will never be able to beat that
I have long since given up
😄
I bow
carmine frigate
that company was aquired by epic right?
mossy nexus
Yarp
carmine frigate
cant say, dunno what went on there
distant vale
whats the diff between const_cast and static_cast
mossy nexus
it will be incorporated into the engine directly for UE5
normal prism
Epic bought it, yes.
mossy nexus
They did however give away the water system that would have been obsolete from 4.26 onwards, giving the creator some pennies for their hard work.
mossy nexus
Don't think I know that one
normal prism
Given how much I love C#, words cannot overstate my sadness
mossy nexus
lol
mossy nexus
I had that with 4.25, so now I remove the preview first
median wraith
Tell us the FPS with that sky
mossy nexus
lots of FPS
median wraith
Yeah don't think these features target forward rendering and msaa
Lol
You c as n use fxaa
ancient hornet
4.26 out?
I hope it fixes the small issue in 4.26 preview 7 that basically made it TOTALLY UNUSABLE for me 😄
normal prism
Yassssssssss
Isn't crashing part of our job description?
Can't say 4.25 was a lot better in that regard 😛
ancient hornet
like taking an ungodly amount of time to build shaders while my computer is nearly unusable (but I suspect my SSD is doing funky things here)
or the part when if you enable GPU lightmass your project won't open anymore because shaders failed to compile at load 😄
bold fulcrum
Luo just posted in graphics that projects with GPU lightmass should be sorted in release.
distant vale
`Networking Improvements
We made performance improvements to the networking Blueprints to avoid bottlenecks and disconnections. The network settings have been tuned for high load so you can have more participants with smoother object manipulation and movements. `
what does this even mean
lol
mild root
4.26 when now
rich quiver
foggy path
Interesting
We were thinking of using dynamic music composed of stems in one of our projects
It was kind of a pain to do that with UE because it was super hard to sync the stems properly
normal prism
Neat!
foggy path
FMOD seems like a possible way to do it without those kinds of sync issues, but I did see an UE4-based solution recently as well which looked like it actually might fix it too
let me see if I can find it...
here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaOGv0gNSms
there was an earlier one they did about this same topic, which had a slightly less good version, so this one looks like they actually solved it correctly this time around
but I didn't have a chance to try this TimeSynth method yet so not sure
it's not really about crossfading, we had separate drum, bass and lead stems which we'd put into different sequences
so the timing on those is just really important and crossfading won't fix it because there was delays and such between the different bits
and you'd instantly be able to tell if the beat goes out of sync :P
yeah, the problem was just that it would randomly do it when you start playing the stem
because it basically would finish playing one and then start playing the next
they'd probably have to be queued into an actual audio stream so it's continuous
foggy path
nice server you're on
foggy path
your "fans" seem fun
the few people I have on our king of tapes testing discord are all super hyped about it lol
zinc matrix
king of tapes?
foggy path
my video rental store tycoon/simulator/survival game
which currently is mostly a video store employee simulation but hopefully one day we'll get some more features lol
foggy path
10 or so lol
zinc matrix
oh lol ya but they will forgot if it will take too long to make
ancient hornet
my video rental store tycoon/simulator/survival game
you know, you'll feel super old when your players will be asking what the hell does that store/rental thing mean. Everyone knows you get your videos on Netflix
zinc matrix
i had 40 active people 7 months ago now its just 1
foggy path
we've currently just invited a few friends and such to test it until we get it into better shape
ancient hornet
same as people going like "ah you mean the save file icon thing?"
ancient hornet
I remember a time where you'd have a setting for the max number of allowed disk drives because having more letters available ate memory 😄
foggy path
lol
that is actualy the case with my X drive
it's a very old HDD which I replaced with an SSD so I swapped their drive letters :P
zinc matrix
@foggy path you know even if i have players im not sure if there will be long enough gameplay content
to make them pay muny
foggy path
yeah that's the thing with my game atm
I think it's got gameplay for maybe 2-4 hours tops
if we polished it we could probably sell it for a fiver, it has that kind of quick fun gameplay value in it
but we have so many other ideas that it doesn't make sense to just push it out in that state imo
ancient hornet
one of my favorite games of all time I spent only 5h in it \o/
foggy path
we actually have procedurally generated video tapes already Lorash
it generates titles and box covers and movie posters
worthy oasis
well among us costs less
ancient hornet
you know, this kind of reminds me of that old game
though it was more of a television station simulator where you'd shoot your own movies/stuff
foggy path
I remember playing Mad TV, it was kind of difficult without understanding how it worked though
foggy path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755878014281318400/762162655011536898/unknown.png <- procedurally generated poster, the "tagline" is done using markov chains lol
worthy oasis
sure just mentioned it because it costs less money then a fiver and it seems that they make enough money with it.
foggy path
Yeah Among Us is one of those exceptions which got insanely popular because of chance
I guess they were okay before too since they were planning on making Among Us 2
but the visibility from streamers playing it rocketed it into entirely new heights
ancient hornet
it is pretty funny how the game got massively popular, long after release
worthy oasis
dunno how long they developed the first one but I can't imagine they spent that much time on i.
ancient hornet
I wonder how it felt for the devs when they started seeing those big number returns from Steam "for no reason" one day
distant vale
tbh don't really like working with unity.
Unity is okay
foggy path
This.
When working on my FPS project in Unity I spent so fucking much time just doing stuff that was missing in Unity
Ported it to UE4 after I started using UE
and it's just so much better
my AI logic in C# was such a fucking pain, Behavior Trees is just magic in comparison
:P
wow
What's the deal with the "Unity is better at 2D" thing though?
I have some game ideas I might wanna do with 2D but not working on them atm
ancient hornet
because Unity is a lot more lightweight and the 2D primitives have seem more work spent on?
foggy path
I used flipbooks and such in the FPS project since it uses sprites as enemies and it works pretty well
ancient hornet
it's still a 3D engine rendering things in a plane though no?
well it having some 2d light stuff doesn't prevent the engine from being a 3D one with constrained camera placements to make it feel 2d 😛
zinc matrix
kind of funny than in ue4 topdown and platform views are still 3d
ancient hornet
with depth buffer too? can you change Unity's 2d rendering from depth buffer based to purely draw order based?
foggy path
the 2D light thing at a glance looks like you could probably emulate it fairly easily with 3D lights too
just adjust their distance from the 2D plane
distant vale
What do you guys think about this code lel
ancient hornet
code dump!
distant vale
dw ill delete it after
foggy path
looks lik C#
ancient hornet
this doesn't look like c++
my second though was that I feel like the braces don't match
foggy path
One of my problems with using paper sprites was with lights actually, because the backside of a sprite doesn't get lit up
cursive crypt
private static
foggy path
if you have a setup like this: (----- Light --- Sprite) ---- player the player might see the sprite as very dark, even if the sprite is within the light's area
I kinda wanted it to behave more like it does in games like Doom where the sprite is lit up on all sides if it's within a lit up area
Ah interesting... in this case the game's 3D though so not sure if the 2D lights would solve it
foggy path
Yeah I was thinking it needs a custom rendering thingy
ancient hornet
though you might be able to use the foliage with transmision material type 🙂
foggy path
Or some kind of a hack which lights it up based on distance from the light using a sphere trace or something :P
ancient hornet
it's pretty easy all things considered, you kind of just need to flip the normal for lights when the faces don't match? but it's just not something UE4 does out of the box I guess
foggy path
I could never quite figure it out because I don't know that much about lower level rendering stuff
but I had a feeling it might have something with normals, just wasn't quite sure how you'd go about doing it
ancient hornet
ancient hornet
The show featured two duelling forces. The heroes are humans called the Lightning League who drive white and silver vehicles with assorted weaponry led by a teenager named Jayce. The villains are organic plant-based creatures called the Monster Minds who travel via large green organic vines, which can grow in and across interstellar space, and sprout seeds that grow rapidly into further Monster Minds. They are led by the very first of the Monster Minds, Saw Boss
normal prism
Violently 80s
ancient hornet
totally 80s
foggy path
oh interesting, the character looked so 80s anime I figured it must have been one of those redubbed anime shows
but I guess not
ancient hornet
it's a mixed cultural one 😄
originally French/Canadian writers, paid by americans, drawn by japanese
foggy path
ancient hornet
later on the Babylon 5 main scenarist took over XD
well the Simpsons are Korean too no? 😄
the series was mostly drawn/animated in South Korea
ancient hornet
well, animated, seems they just filled in the "images" in between from static drawings they received 🙂
shut bloom
Unreal Engine's light baking system, Lightmass, now offers a next-generation GPU-based variant built from the ground up. GPU Lightmass improves on the CPU-based Lightmass system by leveraging DirectX 12 and DXR ray tracing capabilities to significantly reduce the time it takes to build complex scenes, achieving speeds on a single host comparable to a distributed swarm render of the CPU-based system.
Python 3.7.7 Support
shut bloom
they are just following this https://vfxplatform.com/
ancient hornet
measures? this means the site selling them didn't crumble under the F5 action! that's an improvement
shut bloom
Removed: OpenGL Desktop Rendering
OpenGL was deprecated in 4.23 for use in desktop rendering (SM4/SM5). It is now removed as a desktop option in 4.26. Vulkan is the supported RHI on Linux. OpenGL can still be used to run the mobile renderer on desktop to debug GLES problems by passing these flags on startup: "-game -opengl -featureleveles31". Passing "-opengl" alone will show an error and use the default RHI for the platform.
cursive crypt
oh... damn... world moves on - rip opengl
foggy path
we can start to see why they stopped official HTML5 support too
WebGL is OpenGL based
fluid bloom
well there goes any work being done on my linux laptop I guess
I guess I gotta try if 4.26 works 😄
with vulkan that is
shut bloom
so many UMG fixes but I bet it still crashes 😂 https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/WhatsNew/Builds/ReleaseNotes/4_26/#umg
shut bloom
New: Updated third party binaries required to support the majority of Mac client targets targeting Apple Silicon.
Remember that Steam SDK does not have an ARM64 slice and will not link to an ARM64 or fat target.
uncut otter
stfd
zinc matrix
we think theres a reward at the end of the tunnel
but its probably just a train that wants to crush our game
you never know if the train will be a train or a reward
like, how come some indie devs are successful, and others are not
uncut otter
i'd love to see built in basic EOS bp stuff... i'm sure they're just eventually going to buy out a 3rd party one and make it free to outsource the work
but mehh
foggy path
EOS?
uncut otter
yeah
foggy path
ah
UMG fixes are nice but I don't see a fix for the fucking awful TAA with world space widgets
same widget rendered as UI = crisp perfection
widget in world space = motion blurry, generally blurry, colors are all over the place..
knotty sundial
woah 4.26 is 86 GB
uncut otter
Not sure thats gonna be fixed by epic. that ghosting is just because how the sampling works i thought and the speed of the graphics card.
since its basically makign things less jaged by leaving the ghosted pixel to kinda feather.
but not sure how bad the issue is your describing zomg 😄
foggy path
It depends on how much of a perfectionist you are
foggy path
I improved the motion blur issue by adjusting TAA settings so it's less obvious now that when the text changes it blurs in and out
and I improved the general blurriness and colors being wrong by making text bigger, but that's kind of annoying
FXAA looks nice and clean but it makes the rest of the game look like ass so yeah
The weird thing is that I actually manually draw a number of textures into render targets dynamically which are pretty crisp...
so it really feels like part of the problem is how widget components are rendered, that there's just something kinda fucky about it
uncut otter
wonder when they offload this kinda stuff to monitors and some kinda smart pixel tech 😉 i'm talking out my ass but
you know
foggy path
apparently there was a solution before where you can actually change anti aliasing mode at runtime
oh you can?
I couldn't find that anywhere 🤔
uncut otter
yeah its just a straight up console command
foggy path
Huh.. I'll give that a go, the issues really just exist for me when you're "inspecting" certain items in my game that have those widgets on them
so that would be a super easy fix for it
uncut otter
solution always depends on what the game is attempting to accomplish. no one size fits all yet.
ancient hornet
did you try the experimental new TAA in 4.26 yet?
fluid bloom
Initializing... 45%
fluid bloom
lowering the cost of heating by compiling shaders
foggy path
@zinc matrix yeah tbh I don't even know what the limitations of forward would be in practice - I don't think we're going to have any super amazing GFX things
The number of dynamic lights is pretty low with deferred too though isn't it?
at least in terms of overlapping ones
oh really, for me it stopped rendering them at 4 overlaps
maybe there's a config option for it somewhere that I missed
fluid bloom
it was 4 overlaps with dynamic shadows
uncut otter
i'll be honest. the more real gfx look the more uncanny it gets if you involve ppl in it
stylized is the way to go just making it look cool and fun
yeah
foggy path
tbh the quality with dynamic lights is pretty bad compared to statics I don't know if I'd even use it much
we just have a day/night cycle and might want to have ability to turn lights on and off so that'll be surely a fun time activity with static lights...
why can't raytraced GI just perform better :(
uncut otter
dynamic is nice if you can work the AO on the models right and nothing is ever positioned so you see that missing at a distance where its obvious
foggy path
King of Tapes is going to be the showcase game of UE5 lighting features
ancient hornet
<@456226577798135808> yeah tbh I don't even know what the limitations of forward...
longer shader compilation times 😛
humble remnant
Simpler runtime I believe
foggy path
interesting
humble remnant
It combines the flow of triangle and shader processing, but you obviously need a daft bastard's compile time to get it running
Also it has a number of issues in my experience
median wraith
I use forward, shader complexity is individuallized and higher so compile times takex x5times more than Deferred
missing features and the nature of Forward make it lightweight compared to deferred
so less cost
but you will need to combine that with static light
humble remnant
Forward has been simply unreliable
Give me a shading that lets me put more than 4 stationary lights overlapping kthx
soft night
Forward backwards and present is more stable together
zinc matrix
my game bad eaea
humble remnant
My problem with it was most notably HZB and tessellation
But I guess I can't comblain
I haven't delved into VR development yet
But the runtime performance there is for sure important
Goddammit
Did they add another github branch for Chaos
balmy shuttle
vague jacinth
I don't see the Chaos branch either
humble remnant
Seems like it'll be added later and it'll simply have Chaos enabled by default
I thought I had to download it instead of the usual one to enable it
vague jacinth
Yeah what's the difference of just downloading it now and switching to Chaos
Is there specific Chaos plugin stuff included in that branch then or no
humble remnant
Seems like no, I had all the plugins in the preview one too
Gonna run a build on the new version and see how things are
cursive crypt
Watching some substance stuff
mossy nexus
So it's an island with lots of small jetties and a couple of fields? 😄
a badly formed panty liner
cursive crypt
lmao
median wraith
I have set 30FPS cap for PC
looking good to me, that way you feel a more authentic cinematic experience equal to reality
foggy path
it should be 24fps for true cinematic
mossy nexus
My reality is somewhat higher in FPS
frosty halo
it should be 24fps for true cinematic
Post that in r/pcmasterrace and watch reddit burn
Out of context as well
Do it
foggy path
I'm sure they get plenty of shitposts like that already lol
mossy nexus
24fps was only used as it was the least they could get away with using. It's not a magic number, it's literally the lowest quality they could get away with.. 😄
frosty halo
I mean isn’t most modern tv content mastered for 30fps or more ?
mossy nexus
30FPS? what century are you in? 😄
frosty halo
I know the standard is 24 and 29.97
29.97 being NTSC
That’s for most standard broadcasts
But the HD films and stuff... idk if they differ
median wraith
I broke this
curvature effects are the best
🤔 🤫 don't tell the police
Blender didn't liked this UV
I made models up 5 UVs
for this
will need to ask at Blender discord it seems
lol
rich quiver
rich quiver
humble remnant
median wraith
The new sea of thieves @zinc matrix hahaha
by the way you made the legos thing yourself ?
fresh heath
zinc matrix
obsidian notch
Should Devs be cautious about the use of Quixel in games? I haven't really checked it out yet, seems like it would be something that would be useful yet might cause more games to look alike?
I'm not sure though
foggy path
I dunno, how many different ways can a material look like?
I mean if you're going for a sort of real look, real surfaces look the same
But lighting and other stylistic choices like decals, architecture, etc. changes the overall feel of the scene
obsidian notch
That's true - just don't want to fall in the Unity "Assetrip" trap
foggy path
I think you don't need to worry about it if you put in effort to make things at least fit together to some degree and work in your game's environment
the assetrips are like.. low effort shitpost games effectively
mild root
Should Devs be cautious about the use of Quixel in games? I haven't really check...
There are common assets and there are hero assets, like weapon in your hands, enemies, gameplay objects. Nobody cares about how grass looks, if it is not ugly, but everyone will point out if you populate your game with paragon heroes
Assests won't make games look alike, as oil paints don't make all paintings look alike.
vague jacinth
Should Devs be cautious about the use of Quixel in games? I haven't really check...
Yeah in the end its come to how you can manipulate those assets. Such as the model scans, you could possibly use the source version in ZBrush, flip and merge some together. Make them you're own. Make your own textures from that.
Or create some procedural one in Houdini
Many pipelines to make it feel like your own
median wraith
@cursive crypt I don't even know if fmod can load runtime tracks in UE4
cursive crypt
Oh, I don't know too. In fact, I'm not sure I even ever used that lib. It just reminded me of daw, so I chimmed in.
median wraith
I'm using a custom solution based on SDL2
in order to read mp3/wav/ogg and other
the most rance thing I got
I made an async UE4 code
to read an external exe
and request all the time info from web music player
lmao
cursive crypt
Why going out to use custom audio lib?
tbh, I didn't dig into UE's audio side yet, but it should support enough formats and features.
median wraith
UE4 only reads ogg
in runtime
externally to the engine
plus I get all the metadata of tracks
and web online radios metadata
so I can't even use the new audio features
as there is a whole new system going on
cursive crypt
Only ogg? That's odd.
Well, it shouldn't be a big deal to add other decoders... I think.
mossy nexus
That moment you go to add an asset pack to your project and realise you'd be quicker looking up your vault online to find the name of the thing then scrolling through in the launcher. Damn you Epic! Damn yooouuuuuu!
median wraith
well I can tell you from the guy I purchased the plugin it is
lol
plus seems like a lot of people bought the plugin as the default audio read on android etc is broken
4.26
"Improved Baking Tools (Experimental)
Our Baking tools enable you to conveniently bake maps for normals, ambient occlusion, curvature, position and texture straight to your project's Content Browser.. Artists can select meshes and bake maps based on specific UV channels."
dafuk
cursive crypt
That would be what I'm going to do, lol
Ogg/vorbis I guess, its not so bad. Certainly not mpeg stuff.
median wraith
the problem is you lost quality
cursive crypt
Yeah, its lossy
cursive crypt
But still its fine, also you can upsample a bit more. Also not many ppl can find the difference.
Ah, dunno about performance.
median wraith
yeah idk
zinc matrix
Is 4.26 unstable?
obsidian notch
@zinc matrix Seems stable, my source build is still using the preview 4.26 from master a couple of days ago
fresh heath
Twitter
mossy nexus
define 'old'
zinc matrix
considering adding this to my space mmo https://youtu.be/lctXaT9pxA0?t=1285
mossy nexus
Don't use age. Use levels. Every year you level up, standard AD&D rules apply. I'm now at the stage that my level ups are +2 wisdom, -1 dexterity -1 strength... 😄
zinc matrix
didnt atlas have age and you would just die if you reached 100
mossy nexus
I generally assume everything in lounge is a joke 🙂
zinc matrix
and there was way to become younger but to get to that location you would just die anyway
during the travel
lmao
mossy nexus
Case in point ^^
I don't even know who they arre
arre? arrrre me hearties
Naa, some low level dude told me they are just a pair of whiney wrinklies... 😄
2 minute 8 seconds of 4k video with audio track. How long do we think Youtube will take encoding? I'm going to say.... 30 mins
I'm going to upload the same video (without audio) encoded with a different tool and see how long that takes. For the LoLz.
I'm kinda curious to see how YT handles the different encodes, as the 1st is done in Resolve the 2nd in Handbreak. Resolve is sooo damn fast... 🙂
north torrent
So... Now that Nvidia has basically taken NV Link off of every gpu except the 3090... Now 4.26 is going to support NV Link...
zinc matrix
anyone else thinks time doesnt respect us hoomans
mossy nexus
Time is an illusion. So it can't do anything.
soft night
https://blog.bioware.com/2020/12/03/a-message-from-laura-miele-chief-studios-officer-electronic-arts/ well well well
north torrent
Well, I just purchased two RTX 3090s so I can use Unreal 4.26
zinc matrix
this is so great https://i.imgur.com/Zx8QIDk.gif
but how long before i learn how to use this system.. lol
rich quiver
does the custom character movement is needed or they added one for planets
zinc matrix
ya theres ship movement and player movement
kind of funny cause these planets are moving all the time
even if u landed on them
feral swallow
You guys seen the doc site? They updated it today. Looks really good and easier to find studd
Stuff
mossy nexus
My eyes!
foggy path
they're just trying to get you used to your bright future as UE developers
raw rose
Are all the new features included in the content examples now?
north torrent
I want to test their NV Link claims, but I don't have two RTX 3090s laying around.
fresh heath
I want a remaster of Persona 3 so much
The content of Persona 3 FES and Portable should be available in one single game
foggy path
I can understand the appeal
I mean from the perspective of the streamer
Even if you're sort of casually streaming you're still always a bit conscious about what you're doing in front of the camera
median wraith
@zinc matrix pretty cool man
cursive crypt
Wasn't this what they call hololive?
humble remnant
Hololive is a company that "makes" vtubers I believe
cursive crypt
Hmm... I think it is just the case where a person (vtuber e.g.) is using a virtual avatar? Time to check out.... 🔎
Aah... You were right. I straightened up my knowledge of contemporary culture.
vtuber = person streaming as virtual avatar
hololive = company gathering such people
cursive crypt
Cord?
humble remnant
They can be fun if you know the game
cursive crypt
Ah... Sure, its entertainment mostly I guess. Prolly, virtual avatars are not used commonly as news reporters or dunno... Class teaching?
Virtual influencers...
humble remnant
Tbh there's solid content out there by peeps without cams
And I'm kinda going for that with my Kinect thingy
cursive crypt
Making videos on some topic?
humble remnant
Yeah
More specifically Zero Punctuation
But not on games
At least heavily inspired
cursive crypt
Ahm... I don't know what is Zero Punctuation.
lofty rapids
marble sapphire
echo vine
Look who made #followfriday https://twitter.com/G4m3DevBot/status/1334801001866534912 🥳
Twitter
unborn lotus
fresh heath
echo vine
I have an issue with the impeding part not so much the copying part because I highly doubt that is the case. Inspiration and copying are two different things.
carmine frigate
hmm today the .26 update is 2 gig, yesterday it told me i need to free up space cuz its a 80 gig install
rancid ruin
fmod is now free for indie devs but a with small revenue clause.
FMOD was free for indies before too, one big difference now is that you can make unlimited games at any time. Before you could only make 1 commercial game in a year or two.
zinc matrix
eae
molten basin
ancient hornet
infinite force, meet physics
mossy nexus
Good riddance to tessellation. Far too performance greedy.
humble remnant
I've used it to add big details to a plane and then curve it into shapes
That was fun, using math to "fold" a plane into cylinder, sphere and others
mossy nexus
Nanite is a game changer, even more so the compression tech being used to keep memory usage low
The scene they showed of, the one with all the statues n stuff was only about 700MB, and considering the sheer amount of stuff there it's impressive
cursive crypt
lol, I can see myself on that pic
Not sure what ue5 will bring as replacement
Its kinda convenient to split different regions at runtime. Don't want to bring in 10 mil meshes.
unborn lotus
is there any material on getting assets ready for nanite? workflows and such?
mossy nexus
nope
polycount isn't much of an issue, it's more that the level of detail you can create without worrying about baking a highploy to a lowpoly model. The new lighting system Lumen looks pretty damn cool. Finally dark places will be dark! 😄
cursive crypt
So... you mean, everyone drops low-polys?
Welcome to the reverse baking. Making your low-poly, into high-poly.
mossy nexus
No idea, the raw assets still take up large amounts of disk space even if UE5 manages to compress it into something manageable for devs/end users. Lowpoly is still best practice I would assume.
cursive crypt
Well, you will need an way to "increase" the resolution through some means.
mossy nexus
What I'm interesting in is how the UV maps will change
cursive crypt
lol
That's why the reverse baking. You split your low poly and then this transfers to your high poly.
mossy nexus
Seriously, imagine trying to unwrap a 600 million poly asset!? 😄
For me Blender craps out at around 60 million... 😄 😄
cursive crypt
Well, tbh you just need to draw lines from point A to point B to split. Maybe just don't go into detail which quad on which side should stay tho.
unborn lotus
I imagine you could work with medium poly assets and just add displacement at texturing stage, then export that as your game model, in lack of any tools capable of handling that kind of geo and especially uv-ing
but what about modular sets, with tileable textures like cliff faces or bricks 😬
cursive crypt
Well, I think in general, ue5 will just relax some requirements wrt to poly count. It won't turn on its head the whole process.
So, say instead of normal maps, you gonna use micro-normals or something like that.
mossy nexus
With high detail meshes you won't need normal maps, as everything will be generated at runtime by Lumen. The light will use the detail in the meshes to calculate the correct reflective angle etc.
At least that was my take on the more recent(?) breakdown of the demo scene
cursive crypt
I don't know much about it, but as far I glanced once, its just a nice combo of some existing techniques. Moreover, if everything would be backward compatible that's so much you can change. I bet the code will be still the same jungle 😄
Are you in Finland? That's mad, lol
Also weird you don't spray tons of stuff on the roads.
mossy nexus
Why walk when you can slide!
foggy path
they do usually spread tons of gravel at least where I live
cursive crypt
I'm living kinda on the slope of a hill. The main road is down, hence all that gravel just travels down. It's like a swamp if they don't clean it each other day.
fathom wadi
you would think they would put heated systems under the roads. Or attach tiny radiators to hedgehogs and get the labour done for free
foggy path
they actually have a heated "walking street" as they call it here in the downtown area of the city
fathom wadi
another thing they could do is make a giant mirror that reflects the sun's light and concentrates it. Then threaten the world if they don't come sweep up the ice.
foggy path
they actually have a giant mirror...
no, no they don't
:D
yeah that would be problematic for giant mirrors
fluid bloom
Also weird you don't spray tons of stuff on the roads.
we do
the maniacs in Helsinki have a street that has heating under the pavement/tiles
it's awful usually
zinc matrix
hmm
so you guys made your games yet
you know maybe i should pick ue4 instead of unity
one year ago haha
dim ruin
you're using unity right now?
zinc matrix
yes
rich quiver
median wraith
Fortnite you mean ?
shadow venture
yes
shadow venture
Sorry i forgot how low poly look
But how do you like similar "Fortnite" graphics?
rich quiver
is call stylized
primal spoke
Are there any must haves for any game style in the Marketplace currently?
like no matter what kind of game you are making, you must have X marketplace asset?
I already have that one.
carmine frigate
primal spoke
that one also.
carmine frigate
well u should be makin big money by now than
primal spoke
The market for farting fat unicorns isn't as big as I thought
carmine frigate
u need to push it, its a market that needs to be created
carmine frigate
if u cant make a farting fat unicorn sell , u dont have what it takes im afraid
shadow venture
like no matter what kind of game you are making, you *must* have X marketplace a...
Open world
primal spoke
Open world
asset is called Open World?
shadow venture
No, the game type
carmine frigate
thats kite demo?
primal spoke
No, the game type
I'm making a MOBA, with a small campaign component.
carmine frigate
well, good thing u got gameplay ability systems than
never used it myself but seems super straight forward
carmine frigate
yea, i should prolly use it for any kind of game logic
from what i read it the paper2d of generic multiplayer
steel granite
Is UE a good software?
primal spoke
Is UE a good software?
You're asking to be trolled here, FYI.
I'm not gonna do it, but someone will, guaranteed.
fresh heath
Is UE a good software?
No. All these people here are using bad software.
steel granite
I don't know why I ask. There are so many software to learn.
fresh heath
steel granite
I don't have to learn even 50% of it
turbid spindleBOT
@gloomy badge, :8ball: You may rely on it.
steel granite
I just thinking between Houdini and UE
steel granite
I heard that houdini is the future of cg. And I wanted to learn ue for environment
primal spoke
I heard that houdini is the future of cg. And I wanted to learn ue for environme...
You must have seen my Houdini video then. 
unity is better than division
fresh heath
@zinc matrix can confirm
primal spoke
You can make landscapes in UE or Houdini
more robust in Houdini than UE
but really easy in UE, cuz houdini learning curve is a cliff, imo.
but its a beast once you get it.
zinc matrix
its probably ue4 thats better
technically
but unity easier to make game, more tutorial content, more free and paid content
more assets
normal prism
This is quickly becoming the new "compiling shaders".
steel granite
Is it hard to make a game in UE?
fresh heath
You can make a card game in Houdini if you print out renders
carmine frigate
board games have a high chance of success on kickstarter
primal spoke
they do!
carmine frigate
due too those guys actually deliver
primal spoke
surprisingly
carmine frigate
i dont do a lot of board games but it can be really fun with a good group
doesnt discord have some monopoly game or something? 😛
actually monopoly is one of the lesser games, risk and stuff is way better
zinc matrix
Is it hard to make a game in UE?
IMO its hard but on the other hand even indie ue4 games have better graphics than mine usually heh
which is done in unity
but i never graphicsmaxxed
i think people who use ue4 are coming with approach to graphicmax
shadow venture
Is it hard to make a game in UE?
It just depends
broken sigil
Is it hard to make a game in UE?
There is no easy answer to that
Entirely depends on what you plan on doing
primal spoke
@steel granite Have you ever made a game before?
steel granite
No, but I am experienced 3d artist.
steel granite
It's not like that. I also like physics and stuff, so
Also I wanted to find out - does UE now contain grooming and hair systems or not yet? I saw a video on youtube with some vermin and there were words about grooming.
Did someone try it? How does it work? Is it hair cards or what? Is it only for UE or convertable to other software?
steel granite
I am not an expert in reading documentation. So...
cursive crypt
I am not an expert in reading documentation. So...
You better improve fast then, lol
sage tendon
Making "a" game isnt hard, making a proper game can be difficult, making a good game is hard
real palm
making a game in ue4 is going to be nigh on impossible while refusing to read docs
carmine frigate
good thing the source has comments 🙂
real palm
source code is just documentation for computers 
pallid totem
making a tetris clone was hard...
carmine frigate
hes not good at reading, mayB he is master at writing
one of the components in my pc has coil whine:/
ive had loud pcs, this1 is pretty silent with fans tho
hmm it could also be my desklight
north iris
try transform.down ?
fresh heath
mossy nexus
This is a bit of creative genius by an Italian composer. https://youtu.be/_g6YxkSqL20
grand glen
Who pinged
mossy nexus
if you click on the box shaped icon to the right of the search box (top right) you can see who , and get a link to the comment.
median wraith
Did you guys checked the news about the streamer that killed the gf in live?
This world each day is more crazy and terrible
humble remnant
Damn, I've missed that
Nobody has talked about it either
Read up on it
Holy shit that guy's a humongous doofus
humble remnant
Yeah
median wraith
That looks like
Here says he did it before and nobody did nothing
Idk why these people keeps with such retarders
I know a person that have a bf that literally have a tatto where says something like "if you want peace be ready to die" and he abuse verbally of she all the time but she says is fine WTF
So yeah I'm kinda lost overall
mossy nexus
The world has a lot of fucked up people in it. I've come across several nasty people, serial killers, rapists, psychopaths. If I could have dropped them all into a volcano I would have.
median wraith
There is a lot of people too, that just act as others to pretend to be normal but have nothing of normal
The whole system is kinda broken
mossy nexus
Yup, they are sociopaths. Some are high functioning, meaning they have it under control mostly but most are just nasty.
median wraith
Someone named the other day that we live in a year where that people who maybe 30 years ago were an incompetent in all life ways now can get more money or even a job you won't be able to get thanks to this whole system
Aka social networks promoting stupid things over proper contents etc
mossy nexus
yarp
I recommend watching the video I post above. It will make you feel better. If English isn't your 1st language don't worry it's meant to sound exactly as you hear it.
humble remnant
That guy did stuff that isn't even allowed by the church
Poured water on the poor gal, then took her jacket
What a world we live in
mossy nexus
not me. I see no need to encourage that shit. I've saw some fucked up things, and know of much worse things been done to friends of mine. It numbs you, deep inside.
median wraith
Someone named back in the days did more videos with verbal abuse and sprays to her face etc
@mossy nexus what video you mean by the way? Adriano one?
@zinc matrix good lord, rainbow sponges are better than sex, didn't know that taking note
XD
north torrent
I don't think I have the ability to get excited.
rich quiver
death stranding official song Bring Me The Horizon - Ludens was made in 5 days
during world tour
cursive crypt
... I can't collapse the new voice chat category. It just stands there in the middle of nothing 😓
north torrent
Have you tried turning it off and back on?
cursive crypt
Okay, seems on mobile were the troubles. On desktop, only the avatars are visible.
thorny dock
I was searching something in discord and this popped up, honestly this is a perfect interview intro
#introductions message
north torrent
Have you tried taking the battery out and putting it back in?
zinc matrix
hmm
jhon add big script to unity
script buggy, jhon fixes bugs
jhon cant fix completely
rip jhon
cursive crypt
¡strike John for talking too much about Unity.
north torrent
He changed his profile picture, so I no longer have the urge to vomit every time he posts.
zinc matrix
i only changed cause my new pfp is epic
zinc matrix
¡strike John for talking too much about Unity.
its lounge bro
btw you guys should watch Sebastian Lounge, probably only youtuber/dev that impressed me let alone impressed me to this point with his knowledge
turbid spindleBOT
@shadow venture, Check your direct messages. :incoming_envelope:
cursive crypt
lol
zinc matrix
Lmao
do you guys like my new planets https://i.imgur.com/fE2t1Eb.png
thought its mainly sebastian work, but i had to make them low poly
frosty halo
We’re putting up Christmas decorations and we’ve had this wooden star for a few years now and I only now realised it looks an awful lot like a pentagram. 🤘🏻
median wraith
I'm making the packages
that is what they have at hospitals since 2 million years
don't think you want that for the butt
you have to drop that pill the the toilet you know is ready to use when it took the brown color, pick it back and use it @zinc matrix
😂
you can travel with a single toilet paper roll that maybe give you 40 uses
or you can use that container with 10 uses
toilet paper for a week
this guy uses the same paper for all the body a single one for the whole day
what a cool dude
well we got these since 50 years ago
at some point it will come
blame the milenials like me
🤖
foking avocados
zinc matrix
damn
unity slow
i think ima take all generation files to some other project or something
and ill generate in one, and use in second
cursive crypt
pff... can't remember who is when.. why ppl just dont use like generation 5070 vs 9010 say or something.
fresh heath
https://tenor.com/view/generations-fight-matrix-gen-x-gen-z-gif-17048742
Gen X looks younger than Gen Z on this gif
median wraith
Lol
median wraith
Gen X looks younger than Gen Z on this gif
Gamedevs you know
XD
I just want to see the reviews in 5 days of cyberpunk
soft night
CyberHevPunk 2077
median wraith
Is so bast, so infinite
cursive crypt
omg... for the next month or two we gonna be flooded with that topic
median wraith
omg... for the next month or two we gonna be flooded with that topic
I bet will finish fast
frosty halo
I just want to see the reviews in 5 days of cyberpunk
No faith at all. Preorder like a man
cursive crypt
I know ppl taking holidays for that day.
frosty halo
I know ppl taking holidays for that day.
Mmm delicious holidays - imagine being EU and getting 25-30 days to take over the year.
median wraith
How many you have in USA?
fresh heath
Cyberpunk 2077's setting is way too gaudy for me
median wraith
Well maybe that's the reason
Gaudy*i building in Spain still in the making and counting 100 years
😝
cursive crypt
@frosty halo The lower bound is 20 days, but the more wealthy companies give 25.
frosty halo
Mine does 25 plus 5 of carryover from last year
cursive crypt
Same.
frosty halo
And that’s why my boss knew that when I asked to be off from 10th Dec to 10th Jan that the start of it was cause of CP2077
pearl pewter
mossy nexus
If you didn't pee that into the snow it doesn't count
unborn lotus
But what about they them mannequin
frosty halo
Shennequin
cursive crypt
ffff.... forgot to save in the last 30 minutes and ue crashed. Damned be these useless autosaves.
zinc matrix
how do you fix floating point precision issues in mmo
fresh heath
how do you fix floating point precision issues in mmo
Use world origin rebasing
zinc matrix
you mean teleporting everything or changing coordinate system?
oh nvm seems the latter
broken sigil
I think you get like 20k km (might be a lot less in MP) of precision total with rebasing.
For more look into implementing 64bit origin offset and especially for multiplayer double precision support for the engine, talking from experience 😉
foggy path
I've heard of some crazy people modifying the engine to do that
Sounds like it's a pretty big change
broken sigil
yeah, 64 bit origin offset is not too difficult but double precision support (physics/engine) is a massive task
young cargo
guys can anyone help me
mossy nexus
Clouds are meant to look like this, right?? https://youtu.be/ktRRHH8ZGDU
rare sparrow
Woah, this is a neat usage for Editor Utility Widgets
frosty halo
Have any of you managed to get the quixel bridge plug-in to work for 4.26?
dim ruin
mmm that water mesh actor is yummy
curious to peak at the internals. seems like that would be an interesting hint at how to do a good runtime deformable terrain with lod etc
humble remnant
Water shaders have been a thing for a long while now
And if you want to look at runtime deformable terrain, get working on procedural meshes
rare sparrow
Or the voxel plugin for deformable terrain with lod https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/voxel-plugin-free
humble remnant
Forgot that one existed
I wanted to start working on doing tech with it but didn't get to it
north torrent
Got my new computer working. Now I just have to install the dozen or so programs I use for game dev...
cursive crypt
rofl, I was listening to a new audio album and 30 mins later I figured out why it so alternative in style - I have been listening to it with an active echo through my mic.
bronze axle
Got my new computer working. Now I just have to install the dozen or so programs...
Exciting! I'm building my new workstation next weekend.
Just waiting for all the parts to come in.
north torrent
I built this PC two weeks ago but the bios fried the motherboard before I could even install Windows. But finally got a new one from Gigabyte so now it finally works.
humble remnant
At least something
I got spooked by my server today
Screen randomly turned off and the GPU fan started roaring from speed
Ran a vacuum and it was fine again
But it was stressful because the damn thing sounded like a double hairdryer
And just for context, it's more of a second tower that has extra workstation features, it's a pretty neat old beast
north torrent
As long as nobody died.
steel granite
Is it hard to create scenes like this in UE using megascans? https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9eRxrR
north torrent
Takes time.
And an eye for lighting, composition, and understanding of why elements like trees grow where they do.
The tools are all at your disposal, but it is never just simple to compare yourself to a high level professional like the link above.
thin glacier
A .35 Auto round suggested by a friend next to a 7.62 Tokarev round
The .35 Auto uses an 8.89mm bullet in a necked up Tokarev case
broken sigil
Got my new computer working. Now I just have to install the dozen or so programs...
why don't you create a system image with all your important stuff installed
frosty halo
Screen randomly turned off and the GPU fan started roaring from speed
Had a very similar thing happen, but instead of a scare it was an automatic driver install that completely fried my vram because it botched vbios reapplication beside an overclock.
Made the 2070s run like a 560ti
fluid bloom
cursive crypt
lol, the cacophony
tulip orbit
catcaphony
median wraith
someone uses dedicated hostings for servers and that _
something that isn't super expensive for indies ?
cursive crypt
Ah, I thought you talk about the cats.
VPS?
I used before 1-2 years, was like uhmm... several bucks per month for some small set of features.
@median wraith https://www.cloudsigma.com/pricing/
They even give away few times some freebies if their service failed for some time.
Which was too rare 😄
Support was nice and fast. But as I said that was before few years.
median wraith
Well
better than the web they promoted me on Twitter that the minimum cost is 350€ per month lol
cursive crypt
wut?
carmine frigate
there is a comapny here that basically buys all webhosts and doubles the prices
cursive crypt
Names?
cursive crypt
That was/probably is still a practice. Go find promising host names and buy them off. Then sell them.
carmine frigate
you buy a customer base ,double the prices and a lot of ppl dont switch cuz the hassle now u have big margin on the customers you do have
cursive crypt
Hmm... Well, I'm not a specialist, but I guess you pay for the brand too.
cursive crypt
Don't know them 🤷♂️
median wraith
well is like the Santander bank of the companies
worldwide company from here for telecommunications
you know Vodafone isn't ?
kinda alike
cursive crypt
Yeah, got it. That one I know, each one has different presence around the world.
median wraith
yeah Linode is more on the line I used to have at digitalocean
fresh heath
With its fleet of autonomous Ravn X vehicles, Aevum will offer on-demand scheduling of precision orbital deliveries, as fast as every 180 minutes, 24/7, with no risk to human life. Ravn X is the only small launch vehicle that has been built from the ground up as reusable - 70% reusable out of the gate, it will be up to 95% reusable in the near future. After making its delivery to low Earth orbit, the UAS simply returns to Earth, autonomously landing safely on a runway and parking itself in the hangar.
That's pretty cool
north torrent
Chilli beef flavor instant noodles.
frosty halo
Chilli beef flavor instant noodles.
But like.. on their own or with additional stuff added?
zinc matrix
https://twitter.com/Hevedy/status/1335581878171164672
conspiracy hevedy
humble remnant
For server hosting, if possible I'd go with having a purchased server instead of rented
Though my personal project runs just fine on 1 thread of the CPU and the entire thing has cost me ~350$ total for a solid enough machine
But obviously you can't apply that to rented servers
slim salmon
so guys im making an isometric top down rpg....which do you guys thinks works better orthographic or projecttion?
fresh heath
Orthographic
foggy path
it depends on your graphical style probably but at least in that example the ortho looks much better
unborn lotus
Perspective!
slim salmon
damn it @unborn lotus
:p
reasons why
I do like ortho but im not sure
first time looking at this style of perspective hehe
unborn lotus
Iso looks outdated, compare pillars of eterntyi or eternity with pathfinder kingmakrr
fresh heath
If you are making an isometric RPG, then isometric is supposed to be orthographic by definition
slim salmon
so that iso camera angle but with a perspective camera then?
so my cam sits at that classic iso position but the camera should be project rather than ortho?
so i put in some basic objects to help with things
unborn lotus
Yes!
fresh heath
If you don't want it to be actually isometric, then don't make it orthographic
slim salmon
any suggestions for FOV
fresh heath
For first-person views I always go with 90 degrees FOV, no idea about other views
Start with 90 degrees, then tweak it to your liking
slim salmon
Okay so this is 2000 away from character, 45 FOV and perspective
cam is rotated (0, -45,-45)
unborn lotus
@slim salmon i think it depends. here's what i prefer, i think its 80 fov
that looks good for me
i think iso views are sometimes confusing
unborn lotus
I think the 1080 can do it