#lounge
sage ermine
so... if I'm having trouble exporting from blender to ue4, which channel is best to ask about that in?
(via fbx)
cursive crypt
#blender
sage ermine
cursive crypt
👍 😄 The choice is hard, I know
sage ermine
it's partly a ue4 problem you know
cursive crypt
Most people blame Blender for the fbx.
I'm also digging deeper and deeper into the negatives these days:
Haven't seen anything positive recently.
cursive crypt
What you mean -41 235?
cursive crypt
Can't guarantee, but will see how far we can go.
Anyway, for your fbx, depends on the problem, #animation #ue4-general #graphics are all options.
sage ermine
ta
pearl elk
I r dissapoint, where is my NSFW
idle vortex
https://youtu.be/MdmDFMBXi4k
Me doing level design...
ancient hornet
look at the pedigree on that one :
- Zynga
- Disney DIMG Games
- EA MOBILE
- Take-Two
pearl elk
I dont see anything suss man 😛
fluid bloom
nickle and dime business leader I see
ancient ingot
🤣
pearl elk
they couldnt record the source no thatd be sensible, nope lets just record the room echo
ancient ingot
🤣 cauise ign are dumb
pearl elk
thankfully Tims public speaking is getting better
ancient hornet
nah you don't understand, this is just the new instagram filters, but for sound!
ancient ingot
lol
pearl elk
Oh I see Tim is really in his garage pretending to be in a big hall
fluid bloom
anyone have a TL;DW version?
pearl elk
Tim Sweeney has the same jumper with an Epic Store logo on it
thats the short version 😛
median wraith
well if you sell 10 ports you made for the same single price
there is no money back at all
pearl elk
yeah but I think the idea with UE is that you dont spend as much making ports so its easier to give the customer the experience where they want it
median wraith
still yuou have to do
when you limit the resources etc the game basically need to be optimized per platform
well your game engine must be well broken in order to do such crap
ancient hornet
"crap"
median wraith
imagine pay a group of 10 testers for this
bold fulcrum
It is an interesting discipline, but I prefer glitchless speedruns.
ancient hornet
my favorite speedrun so far 😛
glitched runs have that thin edge thing going on where it goes from "using tiny glitches to save time" to "using a small glitch to spawn the endgame cutscene after 3s"
bold fulcrum
Subnautica speedruns are cool.
ancient hornet
and somewhere in the middle is the good stuff
hazy delta
I actually like speedruns that break a game in some interesting fashion, instead of just going out of bounds for a bit
hazy delta
like with megaman for the gameboy where they found a specific way to gather a lot of enemies on the screen that causes a memory state that gets interpretated as the finishing state of the level 😄
pure marlin
yeah it hurts seing glitch speedruns. ~~But i think you can prevent it through mission requirements instead of location based story plots.
Most game cap the next area with walls and co, but in open world where everywhere is accesable and through npc only unlockable. Maybe I imagine it too simple ~~ I didnt expected skywalking, i take my words back lol
but for that tomp rider speedrun, actually nice to watch after the first ugly glitch
ancient ingot
sorry but imo if you dont finish the game the way it was intended, through actual gameplay and not using exploits it shouldn't count as a speedrun.
ancient hornet
the problem is that
pure marlin
Well, i personally dont consider glitch runs as worth calling as speedrun, still sometimes it is amazing, like seing skywalk at will. so far i knew you could abuse the momentumspeed of game engines to glitch through. Interesting to watch sometimes. What game devs need are smart fail saves, like you cant fight the next lvl monsters withouth the proper equipment, or using lesser position events. More interesting, would there be a way to let ue detect glitch use ?
ancient hornet
you can't really base speedrun rules on that
because, games ARE glitched a lot
like, a Quake 1/2 glitchless run would mean no strafejumping?
it's like impossible to avoid the glitch without avoiding jump at all 😄
hazy delta
I mean that's what glitchless categories are for, if that's you thing, just search for those .D
deep glen
^
pearl elk
lol lara ends up being just floating hair
I should totally make that game where youre just a hair piece
deep glen
@hazy delta its mainly people who know jack about speedruns that whine about using glitches being unfair. unknowing there are glitchless catagories
hazy delta
also I love when people say that it makes it easier. Some glitches are incredibly precise, often going into single didgit frame precision and those guys hit them quite consistently. That takes enormous amount of practice and skill.
ancient hornet
pure marlin
some go so far to encode the algorithm and to alter "random" yeah thinks go sometimes overboard despite being hard work
hazy delta
yeah like with the megaman example I mentioned earlier. they knew where they wanted to go, but didn't have an idea on how to manipulate the RAM state, so they had a script that just brute forced a bunch of inputs until it found a configuration that moved you in a way to gather enough enemies 😄
one of the reasons why I love tool assisted speedruns is because the amount of technical knowledge required to pull it off puts me in awe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxgEXDnXD6M
for example with this SMW 'speedrun' where they overload the ram and manage to overwrite it with gamepad inputs, allowing them to execute arbitrary code and basically reprogram the game in runtime 😄
foggy path
Someone probably has been staring at the SMW assembly code for days to figure out that you can do that
hazy delta
could be, I never found anything on how they even found the setup for this.
foggy path
I suppose there's a tiny chance someone accidentally input the necessary sequence when programming a TAS to do that
but seems a lil unlikely
hazy delta
considering you need to input multiple very specific and frame perfect inputs at 60fps on 4 controllers simultaneously, it's very unlikely 😄
deep glen
they probably noticed some bug or whatever glitch and this was the result of how/why
though nowadays, they tear a games code apart a few days after launch
datamining ftw
foggy path
Datamining is a bit easier I think than figuring out that you can overflow the input system lol
deep glen
true
foggy path
Although I guess if you are experienced in assembly programming you could probably spot the signs for buffer overflows
hazy delta
yeah but how many people can actually do that?
foggy path
I think I need to clean my keyboard, I'm getting completely random typos a lot lately lol
deep glen
iirc isnt the same technique somewhat used to steal passwords from lesser protected locations?
hazy delta
and put in the effort to do so for a video game speedrun 😄
hazy delta
wasn't the heartbleed exploit very similar to this?
foggy path
possibly, a lot of the serious ones are buffer overflows
it's probably one of the only really reliable way to execute completely arbitrary stuff unless there's a literal backdoor in the application
zinc matrix
why unity company is not as medial as epic games
epic makes games. engine, store and videos
unity nothing really
foggy path
I'm pretty sure that's what Unity does too :P
Even moreso since they don't actually have any other business model than the engine as far as I know
pure marlin
yeah they do pretty much the same. I recently saw the put free vfx effects in. firework, marvels endgame portals
well, epic gave us megascan xD
median wraith
na they bought megascan to be used on Fortnite
🤖
I wish Epic makes some kind of COD but properly
pearl elk
Epic Meganite
ancient hornet
I wish Epic could remake the first Unreal with more Raytracing 😛
hazy delta
the very end of the gif captures how I feel right now
ancient hornet
they should have taken the multiplayer mode of Unreal 2 for UT4 😮
pearl elk
Unreal Tribes
signal citrus
Unreal II had mp? My age is deteriorating my memory
pearl elk
XMP
pearl elk
Bit like Onslaught, bit like Tribes
zinc matrix
pearl elk
I dont blame you for forgetting @signal citrus I try to let those games stay a memory, going back and trying them just breaks my heart
signal citrus
Yeah. I mean I remember chrome
pearl elk
ahh to be young and naïve again, to go back to when the industry was just a wee baby
the game with the ultra bad vehicle physics
signal citrus
Tech land yeah
pearl elk
Pariah was pretty cool, cept for the levels where you spent half the time spawned through the floor
pearl elk
signal citrus
Blah yeah pariah was another good one
That weird phase where everyone wanted to be a cooler halo
pearl elk
I was playing Mass Effect Andromeda all liek, this is basically Unreal 2 with better graphics 😛
ancient hornet
XMP was pretty good 🙂
the best part of Unreal 2
shame the whole project kind of failed
surreal kelp
if there's no treaty at all, you just don't claim that on that form and you lose that 30% or whatever the tax is in such case
@stiff crystal
Thanks.
This is for anyone who will search here about W-8BEN. Finally a found tax expert who knows what to write to this form. But It depends on your county.
He said %0 tax will be cut from from US.
bleak thicket
ultra annoying topic
but nice to find out in this context that every human has a unique tax identification number
surreal kelp
Yeah
bleak thicket
but directly to say, business dont have, only actual real personas
surreal kelp
its really annoying that if you know what to write 0 tax cut, otherwise %30 its just warning for future grant recipents
bleak thicket
i hope big time that grant recipients also get tax information ;)
surreal kelp
If you are in US they may more easily help you, but if you are outside they dont because every countries' tax treatty is different
bleak thicket
in US the situation is ultra clear straightforward easy
and in other countries they do have the information
in worst case they can take their biggest customer from that country and just ask them quick
and given how many millions those people earn with steam, they would be probably happy to help
Steam has the information if they want to
surreal kelp
But grant is differnet
bleak thicket
they just dont want to push that info on their site, else they have to track it all the time
not tax wise, no ;)
grant is the same as a huge income at once
potent sail
Anyone have any idea why I can only press my widgets once?
deep glen
movie starts at 19:00, starting with trailers, commercials, and other crap.
gf wants to be at theatre in 15 minutes (18:35)
im already bored
bold fulcrum
Remember, when there was no commercials in movie theaters ?
cursive crypt
... and people were allowed to smoke inside.
potent sail
...
deep glen
haha
nah
fricking Jean mineur
i hate him
aaand off I go to see ^ those annoying commercials
<_<
cursive crypt
My condolences, gfs always want to be half an hour upfront. Though you usually wait them so much before that.
warm flint
we don't have any attorneys offering free advice with NDAs etc in gaming industry here by any chance do we? lol
cursive crypt
What? 🤔
signal citrus
would be wary of such advice valefor
carmine frigate
i allways look the internet for free legal advice and pre setup contracts 🙂
also cheap viagra
hmm dont like my new mouse, broke my right middle knuckle once and this wheel gives me rsi
the wheel click, not the scroll
also sorta big hands kinda tricky to find a nice mouse
used to have an msi interceptor but they dont sell anymore
stiff crystal
That tax form isnt super complicated, main thing ia to find the actual tax treaty between us and your country and find the place that applies to the grant
pearl elk
With any luck the AUD will keep dropping then I can get megabucks in USD :p
rain steppe
🥶
signal citrus
and they said never frozen burgers
potent sail
Medical assistance please
potent sail
Is this from the new bad boys movie?
pearl elk
hazy delta
Hevedy on github:
zinc matrix
To make it even better every commit comment should just be "Hevedy"
rain steppe
🤔 how long it would take to create a shooter?
zinc matrix
about 2 minutes, there is a shooter template
or did you mean make a good shooter? 😛
pearl elk
Activision cant even make a good shooter so good luck with that one 🙂
hazy delta
yeah you'll have a shooter pretty much instantly everything after is just iteration to make it better and the more time you put into it the better it gets...
hopefully
rain steppe
I wanted to create a shooter with dismemberment mechanic, loot, lvling, advanced physics alone
zinc matrix
oh well then about 12 years (not really, but the truth is we can't estimate that for you without knowing you)
about 2 minutes, there is a shooter template
or did you mean make a good shooter? 😛
@zinc matrix
ehm... somebody forgot to factor in shader compilation time
oh, in that case change the estimate from 2 minutes to about 30 days
teh end is nhear
NOOO
woo youre here since 2016
i was thinking about finding some unsuccessful unpopular sound artists and offering them to make songs for my game for recognition (so not for money) do you think that will work? where to find them?
there are some good songz on youtube but i dont think i can get rights to use them loll
I mean... it will work for some who just want to do it for fun
As long as you know going into that you won't be able to be very demanding since you're offering them nothing
pearl elk
I suggestion not calling them unsuccessful and unpopular when you contact them
mossy nexus
Spent the last half an hour pondering an AI problem. Then realised I had the controller selected and not character. +100 idiot points to me.
zinc matrix
and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but offering them recognition in your game is equivalent to offering nothing, so don't go into it thinking that will be a motivator
pearl elk
Its really easy for people to get exposure if they want it, its not like people dont have access to social media platforms
pearl elk
Not entirely, its 6am and Ive been up all night
zinc matrix
@pearl elk if getting audience was as easy as you say we all would be rich
its certainly a hard task
pearl elk
you need something the audience wants
zinc matrix
exactly
and how big is your audience right now, before making the game?
count in thousands
pearl elk
right now in this channel with 7600~ people in the server you have the audience of about 5
scarlet fjord
zinc matrix
oof just discovered competition for my game
and all hopes lost..
well, some of them
red basin
Literally always going to be competition for your game
median wraith
@zinc matrix haha that chould a idea 🤪
red basin
do you.
median wraith
@pearl elk How dare you, look all these kids getting COD
pearl elk
lol when you say it like that it sounds like a diease
median wraith
That fucking Hevedy never made an FPS
pearl elk
ewww you got COD dont touch me
atomic barn
nCOD-2019
pearl elk
I think they might be using the wrong operation
fathom wadi
What I like about that kind of coding, is I don't have to do it.
because who would want to except some Rainman type :p
hazy delta
god I'm having trouble understanding the left part, but then there's the assembly and it's just letters, how do people code in this D:
red basin
Thats whats so great about it. You get into it knee deep and most people think you are a hacker wizard and the only people that know otherwise are rainman types ;p
Granted, I envy the ability to be a wizard.
pearl elk
Im just not seeing the point to all of this its only faster for finding if its divisible by 10
the top one could take any number so ofcoarse the generalised function might be some slower
you could just check for a whole number after dividing by 10
pearl elk
modulo does more a - (a / b) * b it returns a remainder
this function isnt really using the remainder
hazy delta
well it checks if it's 0 😄
zinc matrix
assembly is to high level @hazy delta => https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/221796616653373441/677067355733491733
hazy delta
but what do you get when you type 5/1 using integers?
pearl elk
yeah the top function is written poorly from the get go
hazy delta
funny you would say that, I watched that one just a few days ago @zinc matrix
watched the entire thing and only understood 1% at max
hazy delta
yes 😄
potent sail
Why can I only use my widgets once and then the line trace from the widget interaction component doesnt work anymore?
Any one have any ideas?
hazy delta
there's so many reasons why this could happen, is this in blueprints? do you have a screenshot of what happens when you interact with it?
potent sail
Yeah it does everything its supposed to with the code
then when I try to use it for a second time it just doesnt even seem like its in the world
very very strange
One moment, I will provide the screens
potent sail
oh ok
hazy delta
don't wanna derail the off-topic channel with on-topic questions 😄
hazy delta
but is it better in assembly?
pearl elk
its not better than the specific assembly no
but I could make this use any two numbers not just 10
hazy delta
so X is the number you check for and if you replace 10 with Y it could be the division you wanna check for?
pearl elk
yup, it should return a whole number if its divisible, all I do is check if it has a point which is abit quicker than finding the proper remainder
I think UE4 has two versions, ones a faster one if I remember right
hazy delta
😬
fringe sundial
@median wraith on that C# thing
have you tried the same thing on cpp godbolt?
cpp does the hacker version on its own LMAO
VS does this weird shit
looking at those constants of 31 and 2, it seems to be very similar to the C# version
so that twit is bullshit, Its doing the same as a cpp compiler
its doing all it can to avoid integer division because all those instructions are 1-clock instruction vs int division which is like 100-clock instruction
zinc matrix
@red basin actually theres only one competitor to my game
and he didnt publish his game yet but he gained following and made a lot already
cursive crypt
That trick also its UB in c++, though most ppl wouldn't care.
zinc matrix
Hevedy, that yellow valentines card is a love that must be forbidden
cursive crypt
So, at the end just type (x % 10) == 0 and leave the details until further notice.
Oops, sorry didn't want to interrupt the Valentine talk.
hazy delta
oh god I didn't even look at the nodes they're trying to connect
the horror!
I bet each sequence output goes into a loop aswell!
soft night
friendzone val talk
foggy path
In Haskell you can use a boob-operator (.).(.)
It doesn't really do anything useful though lol
errant compass
That --> works in C/C++ because it's not one operator but two, post-fix decrement and greater than, and -- has higher precedence than >, so it binds to x first, resulting in decrement and compare. The whitespace is irrelevant since it's on the same line ;P
Post-fix increment/decrement are in the 2nd highest precedence category so it works out
hazy delta
must be some very old boobs if the belly button is between them 🤔
also I get why the --> works, but what does the slide do?
errant compass
Backslash is line continuation outside of a quoted string
So literally nothing but window dressing
C++ ignores whitespace outside of strings, so you don't even need it.
The preprocessor however does not ignore newlines, so it's useful there. Or just for indicating that two lines are the same statement in a visual way
pearl elk
okay so mine would be worse since i did 2 divisions, could explain why I prefer to multiply by 0.5 instead of dividing by 2
hazy delta
so the slashes in this case are just for the memes? got it
zinc matrix
my game is doing so good
inventory was the hardest thing eva
i mean single slot inventory was easy, but multislot is like completely different league
median wraith
Made an auto backup Files Creator for projects with batch and 7z if someone wants to use it
Batch File:
@echo off
:: Get Dates
for /F "skip=1 delims=" %%F in ('
wmic PATH Win32_LocalTime GET Day^,Month^,Year /FORMAT:TABLE
') do (
for /F "tokens=1-3" %%L in ("%%F") do (
set CurrDay=0%%L
set CurrMonth=0%%M
set CurrYear=%%N
)
)
set CUR_DD=%CurrDay:~-2%
set CUR_MM=%CurrMonth:~-2%
set CUR_YY=%CurrYear%
set CUR_HH=%time:~0,2%
if %CUR_HH% lss 10 (set CUR_HH=0%time:~1,1%)
cd..
for %%I in (.) do set CurrDirName=%%~nxI
set fileName=BAK_%CurrDirName%_%CUR_YY%_%CUR_MM%_%CUR_DD%_%CUR_HH%_
7z a -tzip Backups/%fileName%.zip @Tools/BackupFiles.cfg
pause
BackupFiles.cfg
Assets\*
Config\*
Content\*
Saved\Config\Windows\*
Saved\AutoScreenshot.png
Source\*
*.sln
*.uproject
I'm finally sitting my ass down and I'm ready to dig deep into coding.... wish me luck! 
median wraith
luck for you
errant compass
Good fun! Have luck!
pearl elk
Im gonna set your clock to 1970 Hevedy
median wraith
Don't work?
hazy delta
btw when I'm getting the UE4 source from github is it possible to make a local branches so I can screw around with everything?
or how is this supposed to work?
errant compass
You can absolutely checkout a local branch, you can also clone their repo to your own account and work from there
errant compass
Well, s/clone/fork/
pearl elk
you should totally set your code to this clock
median wraith
Make a proper FPS to me please @pearl elk :(
fathom wadi
@hazy delta fork the repo, then you can do whatever. its like your personal branch
pearl elk
I would if I could figure out how they did the physics in Dying Light @median wraith
zinc matrix
coffee stopped working. hoh
hazy delta
I see that I did a fork of this ages back 🤔 but it's missing all the updates since then
fathom wadi
yeah you need to fetch the updates. It's best done from command line if you ask me, but git for windows did get some improvements on that front
hazy delta
so I clone my fork with git and then fetch?
fathom wadi
well depends what you are doing. If you are updating an older version, you should be able to just switch to that version in git for windows and fetch it. But I think the tag updates need command line. Or they used to
I really try not to use git but you have to unless you play with perforce a bit first
hazy delta
well the thing is that I have this fork of UE4 on my profile, but the newest branch is 4.9
errant compass
Do you have git installed locally?
errant compass
Do you have modifications to your fork?
hazy delta
no
errant compass
Then your life is easy. Make sure your local clone of your forked repo has a remote pointing to the upstream repo, then do a pull, and select the latest tag/branch or whatever you want to checkout
With no changes between local and remote repo, a pull can do a "fast forward", which basically just plonks down all the remote stuff.
If that's not clear enough I can try to see how Tortoise works. I work in Linux with git for a living so I know what to do but not how to tell you in Tortoise :P
hazy delta
haha that's already very helpfull I'm currently cloning my fork locally and then I'll see if I can figure it out from there
errant compass
From their docs, looks like it'll be straightforward
Just have to make sure you've got a remote pointing to the upstream repo. Convention is to name that remote "upstream" or similar so it's easy to tell it apart from your fork remote
hazy delta
alright we'll see in a second 😄
@errant compass so the Remote dropdown only has 'origin' as an option
median wraith
Tortoise Git that reminds me of these old cod modding times
hazy delta
it's the only one I'm somewhat familiar with. I just never needed to fork a project like this 😄
errant compass
@hazy delta See the "Manage Remotes" link? Try that
hazy delta
errant compass
@hazy delta I don't use it, but looks like Add New. Name it, point it at the UE4 git URL
fathom wadi
Blender 2.82 😮 Looking good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfF2wDXalgU
hazy delta
alright it's pulling something 😄
fathom wadi
it's valentine's day. I should hope so
hazy delta
oh come on
zinc matrix
hazy delta
also denoiser! nice
fathom wadi
yeah AI denoiser even
hazy delta
but only on nvidia RTX cards 😦
fathom wadi
yeah but I guess people who do that kind of thing have that setup. Im only on a 1080ti but I can use it so im not complaining :p
anything that speeds up Cycles tbh
hazy delta
man those physics sims look neat
fathom wadi
yeah I did some physics sim stuff for steam and it was ok, but very slow. When I checked out some more info, they were saying there is a new physics sim engine getting added, which I guess is this
median wraith
Look now even the trailers are better than Autodesk ones lol
hazy delta
ikr?
even the top comment is pointing that out 😄
kinda reminds me of how houdini presents itself
but in 1 minute instead of 15
median wraith
now I wish Blender had procedural tools
hazy delta
🤣
fathom wadi
@median wraith what kind of procedural tools?
median wraith
Some Simple Houdini style , the only procedural thing are modificators, something from editor with nodes or alike as materials but for meshes, random placers and these kind of things
non destructable
fathom wadi
There is this.. https://github.com/eliemichel/HoudiniEngineForBlender
seems to be some kind of licensing issue with getting something more official tho
hazy delta
@errant compass for some reason I've only got the release branch available, but that's the one I wanted anyway it seems like everything worked. thanks a lot! 🙂
errant compass
@hazy delta You might need to do a fetch to grab everything in the remote, may be you only checked out "release" and just pulled to update it
I.e., fetch will let you see (and thus checkout) any branch/tag
But cool, glad to help
hazy delta
yep looks like fetching is downloading a bunch of data again 😄 sweet, not I finally understand what that does
errant compass
Git is basically a list of pointers. Branches and tags are kinds of pointers. Remotes are pointers, commits are pointers...
Down under all the covers are actual objects.
Your local repo may have less, same, or more pointers than the remote it was cloned from.
Fetch grabs all the remote ones
Pull actually grabs objects
That's why fetch is fast and pull is slow(er) :)
Even that is still a simplification, as technically pull = fetch + merge + logic to pick merge strategy or fast-forward
But yes
hazy delta
yeah I can now pull all the branches :D
so when a new one gets added I just fetch and then I can pull it, I assume?
errant compass
Pretty much. And, don't forget to push to your forked remote repo ("origin") if you want your fork to stay in sync
ancient hornet
pull is just a shortcut for "fetch then merge/rebase"
errant compass
You can find out yourself pretty easily. See what the last commit in both is
hazy delta
oh right..
errant compass
Or, presumably, Tortoise has some visual representation of branches/tags
And will show them both pointing to the same spot
hazy delta
huh sweet
fathom wadi
@median wraith On the subject of Houdini -> Blender. I just did a bit of reading up on it, and although that github link was fine and can do some stuff, Houdini also supports Pixar USD, and so does UE4 via USD StageActor and USD Stage Editor. And as of about 2 hours ago, Blender also supports USD. So I am guessing that moving things around between the 3 apps pretty much just got solved?
mossy nexus
Isn't Blenders USD support not 100% yet? Something about skeletal meshes?
fathom wadi
not sure. can find out tho
mossy nexus
ah it's: does not (yet) support exporting invisible objects, USD layers, variants, skeletal animation, etc.
fathom wadi
yeah that might be older documentation perhaps with the release being today? Or at least I hope so. If not im sure it will get better if it's wanted
mossy nexus
Thats todays release
fathom wadi
oh yeah just noticed
mossy nexus
Although I know squat about UVs, it's now got UDIMs which look handy
fathom wadi
I just did a whole bunch of UV work that could have been a lot easier with UDIMs. But then I needed to do some core UV stuff as I avoid it usually. Auto-unwrap or go home.
blenders smart unwrap can be a bit stupid tbh. Easy to clean up but the initial unwrap tends to be messy
mossy nexus
I imagine it's on The List™️ for improvements
fathom wadi
if it adhered more to vertex groups I wouldn't mind but sometimes you get weird cuts and joins even if you pack with a border
mossy nexus
I'll take your word on that. My UV knowledge can be written on the back of a stamp, with room to spare
bronze axle
Heya loungers.
mossy nexus
ello
bronze axle
So I’m still thinking about what Epic has planned for GDC.
Always fun to speculate. But this year feels a little different.
hazy delta
you mean something like talks? or actual big announcements?
bronze axle
Announcements.
mossy nexus
I predict OpenVDB support. I have no idea what that is, but... there ya go.
bronze axle
Ray tracing, MegaGrants, Chaos, and a few other things I can’t remember.
fathom wadi
heya pfist and yeah excited and hyped as it sounds like its next gen
hazy delta
oh right, yeah that's some great things
deep glen
next gen VR which focuses way more on streaming, which is vr's future.
(streaming to the vr headset, instead of all them wires)
mossy nexus
Some kind of fancy doodaa with landscapes & water.
bronze axle
It’s clear from their GDC schedule that prepping for next gen consoles will be a big part of the narrative.
fathom wadi
native houdini engine support 😮
hazy delta
actual fluid physics D:
mossy nexus
we know they are doing a water plugin, but will it be big news?
bronze axle
We also know Epic Online Services is getting a revamp that will debut at GDC.
hazy delta
but yeah a bit about VR and foveated rendering support would be cool, I guess
bronze axle
Plus some new rendering tech is coming.
hazy delta
RTX+
mossy nexus
A custom source control option built into UE
fathom wadi
didn't UE4 get foveated rendering?
bronze axle
And now I’ve noticed there’s a 4.25-plus branch on GitHub.
hazy delta
or something that can compete with unitys scriptable renderpipeline. something that let's you edit it via blueprints and the material graph
that's be sweet
yeah someone pointed out the 4.25-plus yesterday I think
fathom wadi
Update as of December, 2019: Mask-based foveated rendering for UE4 has been deprecated as of UE4 4.24. Please refer to a previous version of UE4 on the Oculus GitHub for a reference to the implementation.
bronze axle
There’s also GPU lightmass in development, which sounds cool.
hazy delta
oh right
fathom wadi
luoshuang working on that I presume?
bronze axle
I think so.
hazy delta
yeah he and someone else posed a few screenshots earlier this week
mossy nexus
A total revamp of multithreading.
bronze axle
I’m going to throw a crazy idea out there.
hazy delta
128 thread multithreading support for all 3 ryzen 3990x owners
bronze axle
I think they might bump it up to 5.0.
hazy delta
that IS a crazy idea
but I really think that 5.0 would be a bigger jump. like it should have some really big features as a 'selling point' right?
bronze axle
I keep wondering: when and why would they ever? It would need to make marketing sense, and next gen consoles are a great opportunity for that.
mossy nexus
A make game button.
bronze axle
If it’s not 5, 4.25 is still shaping to be a big one regardless.
mossy nexus
what's on the list for .25?
hazy delta
hm I'm looking at wikipedia and it's kinda funny how UE4 has been in development since 2003 o.o UDK was made free on 2009 🤔
so all that considered, UE4 is the longest running version of the engine so far
might be that 4.25 will be relabled as UE5
bronze axle
I think it’s a possibility.
hazy delta
yeah after looking this up it actually seems more likely than I would've thought initially 😄
mossy nexus
but surely there would have to be 'something' massive for that
bronze axle
Indeed.
deep glen
50% performance gain due to magic
mossy nexus
at least
hazy delta
anyway I'd still love to see an easy way to customize the render pipeline in some way
mossy nexus
maybe 55
hazy delta
lol imagine they just had some random function in there the whole time that made every operation take twice as long
bronze axle
Maybe totally unrelated, but I also thought it was weird that they slightly updated the editor UI in 4.24 without mentioning it in the release notes.
zinc matrix
4.25:
GDC is 4 days
Ends on 20
UE4 will be labeled 5
🙂
bronze axle
Yes. One sec.
hazy delta
but seriously the fact that we have 4.25 and 4.25 plus is intriguing
bronze axle
hazy delta
it's wider now D:
neon iris
Mathew was complaining about it. Messed up a whole video series due to that quiet ui change
hazy delta
was he constantly switching between versions and now it's obvious? I don't see how it messes it up
neon iris
One of the update switched icons then back
mossy nexus
This is pretty cool https://youtu.be/-gDVyrPyvEs
rare sparrow
They'll probably show off the mesh editor stuff they've revamped recently, and I hope to see stuff about the open world tools they've been working on.
bronze axle
Ah yeah, the mesh editor looks awesome. So much potential.
signal citrus
Will there be a slackers meetup thing this year?
rare sparrow
I'm super excited for the blueprint side of it. Making tools to create meshes in the editor programmatically
bronze axle
@signal citrus If there is it won’t be organized by me. I’m not going unfortunately.
Definitely planning to facilitate GDC hype and discussion here again just like last year.
hazy delta
oh there's slackers meetups?
zinc matrix
i bought some low poly pack and its cooll
bronze axle
Not yet. We’ve been meaning to do a GDC thing though.
signal citrus
Yeah I recall something said last year about this year 😄
hazy delta
welp 😅
bronze axle
😅
signal citrus
since the #gdc channel is gone, we'll never know 😂
hazy delta
maybe it's just hidden 🤔
bronze axle
There will be GDC channels and live discussion during the State of Unreal. It will be epic.
Pun very much intended.
bronze axle
The channels will go up a week or two before GDC.
hazy delta
cool 😄
neon iris
At least there’s a BotH meetup 😉
bronze axle
BotH?
signal citrus
Yep we'll be there, it's our game. https://bubblepony.com/game-titles/blades-over-the-horizon/
hazy delta
Beer of the Hood
signal citrus
Blades over the Horizon
bronze axle
Ah ok. Nice! 😁
hazy delta
where will that be?
zinc matrix
now I'm disappointed there are no dancing girls there pat
median wraith
Lol, that reference
signal citrus
Still fielding locations and seeing who will attend
neon iris
Probably in the middle of the woods knowing pat
bold fulcrum
Blades over Horizon is going to GDC ?
bronze axle
Honestly, whether it’s 4.25 or 5.0 at GDC, I hope we get a new launcher. A man can dream.
hazy delta
oh also at GDC 😦
median wraith
New launcher why?
hazy delta
aren't there any european friendly meetups?
deep glen
sorting of vault content
bronze axle
Because the current launcher has a lot of shortcomings.
neon iris
No. Go get mugged in San Francisco
median wraith
I got a lot of performance issues, no idea how but some versions back there was a single version that was as smooth as steam
bronze axle
Performance is all over the place, vault content is really difficult to manage, typography and layout is inconsistent between tabs... I could go on. 😁
median wraith
Oh now that your online, got a question since you used the bluetilities, is there such a thing to get an asset size in space or something I can check if 2 meshes are equal?
Yeah and everything is drop over the same place and can't find things usually :p
hazy delta
oh yeah the vault.... as someone who hordes all the free content it's.... annoying to say the least
zinc matrix
@signal citrus Established in 2013, is it first game or is there something already out?
hazy delta
well at least now we know where p@ts profile pic is coming from 😄
signal citrus
It'll be the second game to be published by the company
hazy delta
what's the other game? it's not listed 😦
signal citrus
I pulled it off the market, it was made in unity and ran in facebook / moble etc
bronze axle
@median wraith I’m not sure. You trying to do this with selected actors?
signal citrus
It was free to play and kept track of all movements by the player so the costs to keep it up weren't worth continuing
median wraith
Nope wanted to check actor's in the engine folder
median wraith
So the idea pfist was to check a folder and find actors equal between
Direct assets
bronze axle
Ohhh so a content browser thing? Yeah I think they’re called Asset Actions.
signal citrus
Its just HighTide and I working on the game Seirei. We are working with some artists/talent that we'll announce later
hazy delta
oh cool, I had no idea you two work together
neon iris
No rest for the wary
hazy delta
I'm in a bigger team, but I'm the only one working in unreal atm 😦
bronze axle
So many hats.
zinc matrix
im in 1 man team but its all good
hazy delta
me? no I'm working in automotive, it's basically just a bunch of smaller 1-3 week projects
I never get to work on something for an extended amount of time so everything is jut a hackjob 😦
bronze axle
I’m also looking at publishing my smaller side projects under a solo label. There’s a growing market on Steam for tiny $4.99 games.
median wraith
Teams are alike some couples there are cases that's better to be alone :p
hazy delta
meh I would love to work in a team with maybe some people that know a bit more about unreal so that I could learn something from them 🤔 maybe that's too much to ask for 😄
median wraith
I worked with teams that the feel was like the team was yourself in these cases well...
hazy delta
maybe I'm just dreaming and stuff like that actually doesn't exist
neon iris
Working with someone who knows what they're doing is certainly a treat
hazy delta
so that actually is a thing that can happen?
foggy path
Having at least one other person working on your project would be helpful at least for me in the sense that I'm easily distracted by other things lol
neon iris
but do you really want someone to yell at you? 😛
hazy delta
I'd just love to have someone I could ask things and maybe get a quick question. This discord does that sometimes tho 🙂
bronze axle
2020 is shaping up to be an exciting year.
Lots of promising games and shows dropping, Epic at GDC, all sorts of stuff.
Our 5-year anniversary is coming as well. 😊
hazy delta
5 year anniversary? 4.25+?
UE5 confirmed
deep glen
unreal 3 please
bronze axle
Found it:
Tim announces Unreal Engine 4.25. People are a little confused. "I know we don't usually make a big deal out of engine releases, but this one's kind of special..." Tim erases "4.2" from the name. It's Unreal Engine 5. Tim drops the mic and walks away.
deep glen
imho I'd expect an overhaul of the rendered before it'd be called ue5 though
hazy delta
hahaha
yeah but then we'd have to wait for 4.35 😦
because I can not see another way for them to announce it now
hazy delta
please be a customizable renderer
deep glen
hmmmm
hazy delta
this has me hyped now tbh
deep glen
either a new renderer, or support for a blend between forward/defered?
deep glen
would that not fall under "new renderer"?
hazy delta
well wouldn't that be a new rendering technology?
bronze axle
They have been rewriting a lot of their tech in recent years.
deep glen
full core support up to 64 threads?
hazy delta
would that really relate to rendering?
deep glen
just another wish :p
hazy delta
would be cool if they announced that they worked with AMD to make that happen
be the first engine to utilize all cores of your CPU for multithreading tasks
deep glen
both editor and games could benefit from that
signal citrus
supposidly ue4 supports up to 128threads now yeah
its got that update / flag set on it
bronze axle
I might have to write a fun blog post about my UE5 speculation in the run up to GDC.
hazy delta
woah spoilers
bronze axle
Gonna become an Unreal Engine pundit. 😆
deep glen
"purchased media molecule for the next generation of editor tools"
that would make me wet as a waterfall
hazy delta
lol
we used all the fortnite money and purchased unity
then they merge both into the biggest clusterfuck of an engine and it'll be glorious
bronze axle
Unreal Unity.
hazy delta
Unity the Un stands for Unreal
fathom wadi
Thats impossible. Slate can't make a UI that bad :p
hazy delta
oof
fathom wadi
I jest of course, it can in the wrong hands :p
hazy delta
oh but that would be something. a better UI system 🤔 compared to scaleform slate feels limited
fathom wadi
um not really
hazy delta
but I haven't used either extensively to judge on that
bronze axle
Compared to Scaleform I adore UMG. I'd never go back.
deep glen
im bored and trying to update sims 4 for gf, but one of her 2k mods breaks the characters...
azure chasm
but how about Unreal Unity build
hazy delta
I just go by what I've seen others do
fathom wadi
yeah I was a scaleform dude for a few years. But I wont go back
unless the money is right :p
fathom wadi
They are actually D Flat files pretending to be in a major scale
signal citrus
signal citrus
wonder who decided to stick them directly across from one another lol
hazy delta
someone who wants to see some fanboys burn up
deep glen
its always very friendly among those teams
fathom wadi
They should have a breakdance battle to decide who is king of the streets
signal citrus
yeah its the users i'm worried about
hazy delta
well marc, that's what the left booths are for
they're the dance floors for the two teams
signal citrus
lol 😄
hazy delta
peoples, it has been fun and an honour, but it's 3AM and I'm dead tired. Good night!
bronze axle
G'night. 👋
hazy delta
also my doorbell just rang, so I'm most likely to be murdered any second now
fathom wadi
by a doorbell?
hazy delta
no, by a crazy person that rings it at 3AM
fathom wadi
shout "Help there is a serial killer in here help". They will think there is a serial killer in there and run away.
hazy delta
can't see anyone inside the house, and I'm not checking outside, so I'll just assume drunk people
zinc matrix
or switch it to PM, they don't kill people aftrenoon
fathom wadi
my wife woke me up once and said "there is a guy on our couch". So I was like "yeah right". But she was serious. I came downstairs and sure enough, a guy had passed out on my couch. When I woke him up, he seemed a little mentally ill. So I ushered him out at 3am, and all he had on was a pair of shorts.
zinc matrix
how he entered house?
foggy path
I remember when I was a kid people didn't lock their doors
fathom wadi
it was the one time we left the door unlocked
zinc matrix
he waited so many years
fathom wadi
he had jumped over the back fence and came in
yeah it was strange because my wife lived in London growing up so she always locks the doors.
we had just had a baby tho so she was tired
zinc matrix
Sweden was a country where people didn't closed their doors. But I think it's not case anymore with emigrants around.
hazy delta
well I've certainly seen people leave their keys in their doors in multi apartment buildings
fathom wadi
yeah we used to keep our doors open but community spirit died in the UK, so now everyone is isolated and nobody gives a shit. Rob your neighbour, and your friends.
hazy delta
but my parents teached me to always lock the door twice so it's basically become the norm for me to do that by default
fathom wadi
I mean I exaggerate somewhat
I have a crowbar in my bedroom for future encounters. I can handle myself in a fight, but not against a knife wielding lunatic. 😄
hazy delta
o.o
anyway, luckily I'm antisocial and stay up until 3AM so no harm done.
I'm out now for real though 😅
fathom wadi
gg
quiet narwhal
.25 is shaping up to be annoying with the new modes panel changes, yet another UI change that screws me over lol
bronze axle
Modes panel changes? More stuff related to the editor modes thingy?
quiet narwhal
I didnt even know about this .25 plus, grabbing source now lol
bronze axle
Yeah, it's weird right? Never seen them do a plus branch.
quiet narwhal
uh the modes panel, the top left thingy, in the last source grab I got last week is now a toolbar
bronze axle
Oh haha, that's new.
quiet narwhal
yeah its super weird, the landscape stuff is all in a toolbar
bronze axle
I remember seeing the new mesh editor also uses a toolbar instead.
quiet narwhal
i mean it looks cool
yep it does basically that toolbar but with the models stuf in it. so a bar for landscape, one for painting, one for foliage, one for geometry edit
only the place panel is the same in the top left
oh yeah 4.25-plus
gonna compile master and see if those changes are still there or i was on drugs
bronze axle
Sweet.
quiet narwhal
then figure out what .25 plus is
bronze axle
So everything in the modes panel is now a toolbar in 4.25?
quiet narwhal
uh except for the place mode with the actors and such its still that window
ok so the toolbar has a new button
that toggles between the old modes panel modes
and pops up a new toolbar for each mode
bronze axle
Very interesting.
quiet narwhal
yeah ill finish a compile during dinner and make sure Im not crazy
bronze axle
Very curious to hear about 4.25-plus. Especially if there's any more UI updates.
Or what the heck makes it "plus". lol
quiet narwhal
the funny part is I would hope to get wind of this crap before it happens as I do videos for them but nope as a contractor I find this all out when you do lol
bronze axle
Wow, really? I thought you at least got a week heads up or so.
quiet narwhal
which is always great when it messes with a video in progress lol
lol, half the time it seems like its a surprise to most of epic when stuff happens soo....
bronze axle
Hahah.
rare sparrow
quiet narwhal
welp I think its time to upgrade to the 3950x, this is taking too long
more cores, more threads, more compiling!
signal citrus
I'm on a 3970x and would highly recommend
quiet narwhal
2700x here so it should be a good upgrade, I wanted to it before but there was no stock
ive got it locked at 4.0 all core boost so I am hoping the 3950 can hit atleast that if not more based on what I have seen
quiet narwhal
oh hate so much
signal citrus
Are they still hard to obtain?
quiet narwhal
yeah I see them finally in stock at msrp I just need to buy all the other crap for the house and pay all the bills then get one
they where till about 2 weeks ago, could never find them in stock
well online for MSRP
locally if you lived near some places yeah
signal citrus
ahh gotcha
quiet narwhal
I need a 5 minutes engine compile!
signal citrus
Every module, full solution build takes about 14 minutes for 3970x
quiet narwhal
oooh.... want
signal citrus
Every time i've tried to just do a fresh F5 build one module fails from vs2019 lol
so i miss the timing
quiet narwhal
I think I am at 25 minutes for just the engine right now
signal citrus
Its strange because the most noticeable improvement beyond lightmass is material editing
compiling shaders is instant with 64 threads
quiet narwhal
yep yep that's my want
signal citrus
Expected less compile time for the c++, got instant compilation of shaders lol
UHT kills my compile times
quiet narwhal
plus initial DDC creation should be less of a pain, or changing shader permutations
signal citrus
yep
quiet narwhal
lol in the middle of the compile right now I see this in the output log "3> Unknown compiler version - please run the configure tests and report the results"
signal citrus
They'll probably be announcing the next line of desktop processors this month
lol 😂
I haven't seen that one
that one physx include of typeinfo is what routinely got me
quiet narwhal
I could eek out a bit more time if I pumped some more watts and speed thru the CPU but meh it's stock cooler and stock volts and only a temp stopgap cpu
I need to order the AMD bracket for my Noctua for the 3950
ffs... VS taking 100% cpu causes discord to lag when typing lol
quiet narwhal
yep it's a DH15 from 3 years ago, got it with the 5820k
picked up a cheap 2700x and x470 board last year as a stop gap till the 3950
signal citrus
Yeah, you could potentially throw the 3950x into your x470 too
quiet narwhal
figured just upgrade slowly and no sticker shock 🙂
yep that was the plan, got it for like $150 for the chip and board
signal citrus
how are you cooling that one?
quiet narwhal
swapped the older 2400 memory for 3200 memory
so just need the bracket and CPU now
stock wraith cooler on the 2700x right now
its a really good cooler for included
like... impressively nice for "free"
signal citrus
cool cool, yeah i agree. I have a 2700x for security system with the wraith and have no issues with it
Its pretty too
all glowy
quiet narwhal
yeah I didnt get the USB cord so it's just the stock colors on it but I never see it so no worries
I prefer the non lights and the DH15 is suuuch a nice cooler
signal citrus
cool :)
I went AIO in 2013 and have been running with that since
but they say theres really not much of a difference
quiet narwhal
when I bought this machine 3 years ago I bought the DH15 and an AIO, had the AIO for a few weeks then swapped to the DH15. No real savings in temps but I "felt" safer
it's a small chance but my work depends on a stable running machine that isnt under water lol
the AIO is running on the kids machine with the old 5820k setup so it works great just... if it leaks and breaks on his PC oh well lol
the machine is also half broke anyways. It wont turn on if it's at cold boot temps. We have to unplug the AIO, turn the machine on for a few minutes to let it warm up, then plug the AIO back in and reboot the machine otherwise it won't post... it's weird
signal citrus
lol 😂
Yeah I've had zero leaks, but have heard the horror stories
Especially with that enermax cooler that corroded on the first gen thread rippers
it was also the only aio that fit the thing hah
quiet narwhal
I've ran custom cooling, AIO, and uh super oldschool radiator setups that were in the 5.25 floppy bay and never had a leak but business is business
man that is weird I keep getting that random unknown compiler warning in VS lol
signal citrus
lol may be time to delete the intermediate folder
quiet narwhal
already did, I always clean before building master
signal citrus
ah, yeah i usually don't but have had to for 4.24
do you have multiple visual studios installed?
quiet narwhal
nope just 2019 updated like 2 weeks ago
and I forgot to disable anti virus before build damnit
quiet narwhal
heh
quiet narwhal
ah nice the AIO with the screen on it
zinc matrix
oh god
signal citrus
yeah I'm thinking i'll put that on the 3950x
quiet narwhal
I didnt go fancy, I just went expensive with my parts so they would last
zinc matrix
i got 4 great assets today for unity
though making the clouds work properly will take some work
will have to mix two of them
signal citrus
Yep that is also the only aio that comes with noctua fans
it has fans on the pump too
so its like, air cooling and water cooling
but yeah it doesn't really cover the ihs as much as it could
quiet narwhal
yep yep there are some great AIO out there and I should go to one but I just know its gonna be like "whoo I got work, yay" and BAM fire
signal citrus
yeah, Air coolers are definitely not underpowered
The one you listed keeps up with anything below 480 just fine
quiet narwhal
yep yep the DH15 with both fans running is freaking fantastic but its so big it has like 2mm clearance from the top of it to the side panel lol
and I have to keep one of the fans only on 75% due to the height of the ram below it lol
I think the key is the noctua fans are just so well made
signal citrus
they get huge https://youtu.be/8TtDRnQl978?t=4562 lol
clearing ram is hard haha
As long as it clears ram and closes your good lol
quiet narwhal
yep I got lucky I didnt even think about the clearance it just literally fits by accident
north torrent
Just pull those silly decorations off the side of the RAM.
Nude RAM is the best RAM.
quiet narwhal
nah I wouldnt run 3000+ memory without an IHS
no RGB sure but atleast some heat spreader or sink
quiet narwhal
depends on the setup, normally I just go with 2 sticks so there is plenty of room on a 4 slot board
signal citrus
Is it normal to remove those on the itx builds mao?
quiet narwhal
welp lets see if master branch compiled and runs lol
signal citrus
I mean they should help with temps for the ram, but if they are blocking airflow to other things..
quiet narwhal
lol master has been flagged as .26 so Im guessing .25 preview anytime now
north torrent
I just know that from the tests I have seen, the decorative side pannels on RAM don't do anything to dissipate heat.
The poor designs trap it in.
tulip orbit
install some incandescant RGB lighting on your memory
north torrent
But maybe some brands out there have working heat spreaders. Just not the ones I have tried.
But I haven't owned every computer part in the world, obviously.
tulip orbit
yet
north torrent
I almost did, but the the coronovirus stopped me.
tulip orbit
I knew I put it out there for a reason 🤔
signal citrus
have you heard if you'll be returning yet?
north torrent
I need to go get my ultrawide monitor...
I guess I could buy a new one... but fuck that...
quiet narwhal
I really really wanted one of those but figured trying to record 16:9 video on it was going to be a pain
north torrent
16:9 is the old world.
signal citrus
lol
north torrent
I generally just use the 21:9 as a two monitor setup. It is just really nice not having a bezel in the middle if I decide to play a game or watch a movie.
signal citrus
eh i mean 16:9 at 43 inches in 4k is still wide
foggy path
If you need to record 16:9 video on something else than 16:9, you probably could set up an OBS scene which captures a portion of the monitor at that aspect... or you could probably force a 16:9 resolution to it stretched which would capture normally on anything, but just look bad for you when recording
quiet narwhal
yep @bronze axle I wasn't on drugs lol. in master right now
the modes button changes the panel in the top left and the bottom 3 modes all have a toolbar instead of extra tabs in the modes panel now
signal citrus
encroaching my viewport again
quiet narwhal
yeah I figured if I wanted to do 16:9 on a UW I would just drop the resolution to that in windows and record. It's a plan in the future if I can get a desk to accomodate it
i already drop down from 1440 to 1080 when recording so meh
signal citrus
I wish those toobar buttons weren't massive too haha
quiet narwhal
so like this?
signal citrus
quiet narwhal
because you know, options and all
signal citrus
how did you do that?
quiet narwhal
north torrent
I never understood while small wasn't the default...
quiet narwhal
but uh... the animation window for uh skeletal animation changed
signal citrus
hey cool it hides my megascans icon as added bonus!
signal citrus
again?
north torrent
Episode 5 is really good.
quiet narwhal
so why did no one tell me the animation window was changing... I kinda have a new course on Animation in process lol
signal citrus
whoa what is this
quiet narwhal
I do like the new montage section ecitor tho
thats an animation montage
This is a normal animation/skeletal/fbx track
signal citrus
so this is a master branch build from epic's git?
quiet narwhal
the montage section editor is MUCH easier to understand now you basically click on a button after each section to select the next
yep this is master branch os of uh an hour ago?
signal citrus
lol wow
quiet narwhal
I was always confused by the old one
my montage sections are named default, next section, and last section lol
north torrent
It's been over a year since I have used that...
signal citrus
gg that looks awesome
quiet narwhal
this is MUCH easier to understand
signal citrus
do you now have to redo every video on montages though? lol
quiet narwhal
I never did them 😉
was actually in the process of doing animation stuff and was going to record shortly lol
soo... I guess I wait
this is honestly... really fucking nice
signal citrus
damn, 🤞 don't crash constantly lol
quiet narwhal
so far no crashes
signal citrus
I hope they fixed retargeting animation blueprints that have additive animations in them by now
signal citrus
lol 😂
wouldn't expect that one for some reason. I tried diagnosing it through debugging and gave up upon seeing how tangled the reference collection was
quiet narwhal
something is changed with the renderer, the manny is more reflective and shiny
signal citrus
lets see
quiet narwhal
I think it's a bug, like there is a screen space reflection on the entire camera at all times
gonna open up .24 and compare
oh it's darker or something so I can see the reflection more now
I wonder if they fixed the overblown default lighting
signal citrus
it would be cool to know what subtle changes change in renderer between versions lol. I usually run into moments like this, but dunno if its just me
that would be excellent
quiet narwhal
damnit stupid alt printscreen
left is master, right is .24
thats what I meant by it looks shinier but that stuff is in .24 just blown out
signal citrus
wow that looks quite different
quiet narwhal
yeah I think there is some weird bug, Im getting like weird reflections in the new one
signal citrus
yeah way more detail on left
quiet narwhal
oh yeah something is wrong with the rendererer lol
default level, you can see the sky reflecting in the walls lol
quiet narwhal
yeah its ignoring something for sure, even the material shows "missing" for half the pins lol
signal citrus
lol wild
quiet narwhal
new blank material
looks like those are for anisotropic settings in the new material, thats what the mouse over says
signal citrus
dang
quiet narwhal
yeah probably just a half changed renderer at this point, oh well
well lets find more hidden crap
quiet narwhal
yep its got a much larger new emitter setup thingy, very similar to the new project where you choose something then more stuff comes up
and something called a scratch pad lol
signal citrus
damn
quiet narwhal
so the scratch pad lets you like create temporary modules in a new window
yep lots of new icons, lots of polish basically
modules have icons identifying them now on the left kinda like the color coding for variable types
signal citrus
like to show if they are dynamic inputs vs modules?
quiet narwhal
gimme a sec, cat found the power button
the icons along the left of each module
I dont have a clue what they mean but they indicate something, maybe relativity?
signal citrus
hmm
yeah
so would guess that the orange ones are force
red indicates position
would bet that blue color is velocity
its like a riddle with that solve forces and velocity thing lol
quiet narwhal
yep so you do them by hand for custom and I am sure they are pre set for the included
signal citrus
niagara is fun
quiet narwhal
It's so scary to me
quiet narwhal
atleast it's alot easier to manipulate settings compared to cascade but jesus it can get complicated
