lounge

[median wraith]

idk but I keep in the last gen for it

[summer cedar]

No, apart from sexy characters.

Like, for a shoe, or a suitcase.

[median wraith]

oh yeah Anger Foot is just all combo nice looking stylized

[median wraith]

I think now we are at maybe 200k or so

[summer cedar]

Yes, even the gameplay is super simple - ~~basically ~~one move.

[median wraith]

Say old CODs were at like 30k or 50k already

[summer cedar]

200k for the whole scene, or each object?

And if it's each object, F me.

[median wraith]

character*

for object I don't know, is a real wild answer

[summer cedar]

Well, that provides A LOT of flexibility.

I am an old codger from the 3ds Max 1 days.

I remember 1,000 poly limits.

Anyway, back to providing you with free encouragement -
I'd say go with a simple style, make some in-game footage, and show us how it looks. Then we can tell you more.

Also, THAT advice will cost you $50 per video. 😛

[median wraith]

this is a suitcase and is 14k

triangles

[summer cedar]

Dang. We have come a LONG way.

[median wraith]

but if you ask me can get it for 1k

[summer cedar]

This helps me with MY game. 😄

[summer cedar]

Well, yes. I can see myself optimising it too.

But, does having fewer polys affect how the texture appears on it?

[celest musk]

i think you could do it with 24 polys 😛

or 12?

12 i guess, i can't even math

[median wraith]

a phone 20k

but got a low tier phone for 2k

🤣

[white oxide]

Anyone here paying attention to sins2's somewhat spectactular rise, and the fact they deny use of Ai yet we found multiple Ai images suffering from multi-fingers

[median wraith]

sure it does depends

for lowpoly style wanted to bake elements on Blender with texture and all

if you reduce the poly will end all totally bad

[celest musk]

no, what is sins2?

[white oxide]

Sins of a solar empire 2

[summer cedar]

Well, it sucks that they deny it, or even feel the need to do so.

But, I don't mind that they used AI. I would've just put in an AI declaration somewhere in a menu.

My new motherboard HAS ARRRRIVVVVEEEDDDDDD!!!!!

🎆

[pale scarab]

GUYSS

omggg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMyFlCcZPIQ

LOOK AT THISS. this look sooo.. WOW. i want this mod!

if unreal reach to this level, I AM GONNA DIE HARD TO UNREAL!!!

[white oxide]

they put it on steam, but they also told us multiple times they "trained it off their own stuff" and that they "touched it up using real artists

[summer cedar]

Well, they were lazy. 🙂

[white oxide]

And im all for using Ai if its public they did so

[summer cedar]

Or the quality tester is blind.

[white oxide]

almost certainly

[summer cedar]

Or it's an alien.

"Bzz,bzzmbuteuw 6 fingers - okay.... bzzz."

[white oxide]

they are humans

thats a core part of the games lore

[summer cedar]

No, I mean the quality tester is an alien.

[white oxide]

brain dead more like

also the fact that they "involved their best modders" in the games development yet their "mod tools" such as they are are vastly inferior to the ones they made 12 years ago...

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/im-only-human-rory-charles-graham-rag-n-bone-man-out-of-the-comfort-zone-singing-gif-18146425

[white oxide]

also they have been giving week long mutes to anyone who doesnt kiss the ground the game walks on.... which isnt exactly the way you get valid feedback

oh also 4 $10 DLC announced day 1 of release

and thats "discounted"

[summer cedar]

Huh.

I am not surprised by the DLC thing. The first game has what, five or six DLCs.

[white oxide]

as in you pre-order the 4 dlc they will release this year

[summer cedar]

Oh well, just get the game on sale OR play it on Game Pass whenever it gets there.

[white oxide]

over 8 years

and one DLC is just the banger soundtrack

[summer cedar]

In the premium edition - yeah. I was like, no thanks.

[white oxide]

each of the original games DLC actually added something

$10 for 2 new ships... when they removed 3 out of the last game

The biggest peeve i had with it is the fact that everyone wants the map maker

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect2-harbinger-reaper-gif-21859749

[white oxide]

but they made it super user unfriendly compared to the last one, and they are requiring you to essentially make a github account, or download FORK just to get the basic tools.

while yes, most of us here are comfortable with GIT, how many of the 12k players of the game do you think are actually going to know enough about git to not have issues

[soft night]

blame harbinger expansion to bring reapers

[white oxide]

yeah no

their "4th faction" hasnt been guessed in 15 years

or so they say

its "biological" but also apparently psychic

also the 4th faction is supposed to be so OP as to have slaughtered an advanced alien race in weeks yet somehow we can play as it in the base game with that expansion and it wont be somehow OP

against less advanced and worn down enemies

[cursive crypt]

Jeez, both look modern. But yeah, I think I would choose modern again here. T

[summer cedar]

I have to wait for one more component to arrive - the CPU air cooler - before assembling my computer.

[summer cedar]

MUrica! Going around the world, saving people and destroying everything else!

Broforce

Liberation and democracy!

With heavy metal music.

[median wraith]

Na second is custom engine minimal

[cursive crypt]

The first really. You are more flexible there. I have good memories from old pixel games, but I see no attraction to their aesthetics.

old pixel style, have played that one a lot

[errant raven]

America and saving people doesnt go in the same sentence

[summer cedar]

That's what BroForce does, while destroying the entire area where the prisoners were.

[tulip orbit]

unless its saving them from having to live and democracy

[summer cedar]

We use napalm, dynamite, missiles, missile strikes, molotov cocktails, and MIB miniguns.

[errant raven]

What's the difference between missiles and missile strikes for them to be named independently

[summer cedar]

With missiles, you launch a salvo of three to five that explode and destroy terrain, terrorists, and rabid terrorist dogs in a horizontal line.

Missile Strikes involve you throwing a grenade, which explodes and kills terrain, terrorists, and terrorist dogs AND also drops homing beacons that an F22 Raptor uses to launch maverick strike missiles. These strike in a diagonal line.

It's quite useful if you want to multi-task, like calling down a missile strike on the terrorists above WHILE digging a tunnel underneath with your machine gun.

[summer cedar]

Time to play Warpips.

[tulip orbit]

already? man, how time flies

[summer cedar]

Helping democracy spread around the world.

Notice those beautifully laid out construction sites, where pre-existing 'weeds' have been removed to build new structures for capitalism and FREEDOM!

[tulip orbit]

just bought shapez2. Hopefully it'll give me my factory fix until factorio expansion or satisfactory release

[summer cedar]

Isn't Satisfactory quite awesome now, or are you waiting for more content?

[tulip orbit]

it is, but the 1.0 release is later this year and comes with a lot more content, finished story, etc...

[summer cedar]

Because we totally don't have any vehicles, we just build some sandbags and have a go at one another.

[lofty lark]

Went for a hike this morning. Look at that view. Such fog, much wow.

[summer cedar]

Nice! 🙂

[tulip orbit]

there was a lot of fog here this morning, less than 100ft visibility

had it not been 5am, and I was ready, I woulda played the silent hill alarm sound 🙂

[summer cedar]

You should have built a large elevator or staircase and then put an observation tower on top of it.

Would've cleared the fog easy-peasy.

[cursive crypt]

Very fog. So majestic. Much nature.

[lofty lark]

Felt like silent hill

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/tsunyash-vstars-vtuber-yandere-anime-gif-8254000498447883430

[proud jay]

I made some pie

[cursive crypt]

I have a ton of pears fallen around the tree. May make one too 🤔

[proud jay]

You like this kind of bread @summer cedar ?

[cursive crypt]

Looks great.

[summer cedar]

That looks super tasty.

Gimme.

[proud jay]

I'm waiting for my wife to come home to taste it

but if she keeps slacking I'm just gonna eat it all

[cursive crypt]

Filling?

[proud jay]

you mean below the cream?

[cursive crypt]

Mmm, nice 👌

[median wraith]

so realistic

[median wraith]

that looks awesome

[rocky barn]

I distinctly remember that XP RTM had an anti-feature (not a bug) where if you told Windows Messenger (a "lite" version of MSN Messenger) not to load at startup, it'd ignore you and load anyway

In the program itself

And possibly even if you removed startup keys through msconfig, I'd have to check it again

[errant raven]

Fortnite really just gets worse and worse with each passing season

All these OP items that take the fun out

[mild gust]

Bring back op characters

[celest musk]

here we go again.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hJ4jt-UFWo

[proud jay]

this is the complete finished pie though #lounge message

[brittle holly]

Shouldn’t that number be going down?

[celest musk]

yesn't

i think it used to go up and then down?!

also i got bamboozled and when the 10k have been done it did another 1500

+200 when the template map loaded

not sure if any but those 200 have been necessary...

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/kira-kiraoninj-dev-is-deving-kiraoninjective-gif-14605248550509319399

[brittle holly]

@empty dune is this you? https://youtube.com/shorts/3IFQfB7p2bU?si=xs9tVWOe6uHG7t31

[celest musk]

i think those are staged

[brittle holly]

Well if you watch to the end he got arrested

[celest musk]

and how did all that end up on youtube?

[empty dune]

Wtf

[brittle holly]

Someone filmed him?

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-obvious-captain-thankscaptainobvious-gif-18783644

[empty dune]

This dude will eternally live in the shadow of that comment

[brittle holly]

I mean… you asked

But also, I meant, if I saw that happening I’d also probably make a video of it lol

[zinc matrix]

If so whats the adapter called

[proud jay]

is that a coax cable?

or what are you trying to connect?

or are you just trolling?

[zinc matrix]

I dont know what its name is and I am not trolling

It's supposed to be the internet cable

[zinc matrix]

Another question, on my display there are 2 spots I can connect it to PC from, one is HDMI, the other is DP. I plugged into HDMI, and it works, but is there a difference?

[proud jay]

it's probably a coax cable, normally this comes into your house and you plug one of these cables into your modem

[proud jay]

DP can handle higher data loads so could output higher resolution or framerate depending on your screen, but if HDMI works as you'd expect you can just live with that

[zinc matrix]

It s already connected to the modem on the other end

[proud jay]

usually this cable is connected to some internet in the street, comes in your house and you connect it to the modem

normally from the modem onwards you work with ethernet cables

[celest musk]

it's not supposed to go into your PC

[proud jay]

idk if you can actually do coax from your modem to pc

[celest musk]

no

[zinc matrix]

Okay, so what do I do, there is no other thing I can connect it to

[celest musk]

unless you run a 10MBit network with coax cables 😄 (which is some 1995 stuff)

[proud jay]

if you already have functioning internet on this modem, throw out this cable

[celest musk]

maybe that modem has two ways to connect and it's already connected through another way

so you don't connect it at all

i guess the green/yellow cable is the actual connection to the ISP

[zinc matrix]

I dont get it xD

I have to plug something into my PC, what?

This is the modem

[celest musk]

this modem has one network connector

which goes to the other box

which is most likely an access point

either this has more RJ45 network connectors or you have to use wifi

[zinc matrix]

This is the other box

[celest musk]

yea

any of the 4 connectors

will be LAN

[proud jay]

so from this other box you put a ethernet cable that you can pull to your pc

[zinc matrix]

Got it, so all I need is to bug a long ethernet cable?

Buy

[celest musk]

or you just use Wifi

[proud jay]

depending on how old your house is there might be ethernet wires in the walls

[zinc matrix]

Alright thanks Ill go buy a cable, but then wtf is this for?)

The other end of the coax

[celest musk]

for households with other connectors

apparently theres two common standards in your area

i guess so

[zinc matrix]

Thanks

[celest musk]

also there's this thing

[proud jay]

coax is also used for TV

[celest musk]

they call it manual

it contains explanations of devices

[proud jay]

although most modern tv's are digital now too

[zinc matrix]

Great, only I just rented the house and it didnt come with a manual

[celest musk]

then lookup the device name/model and use google

[proud jay]

This is what ethernet in the wall would look like

if you have that there's probably a central connection point for all those

where you can wire it up

[cursive crypt]

pff, flex, only offices have these

[celest musk]

most modern houses do

unless they are build by idiots

[cursive crypt]

It will be like these 'modern' houses which had phone cables like that.

Obsolete in a decade

What if you have put cat5 inside the walls?

[celest musk]

that depends on the quality

cat5 is still good enough for most stuff

[cursive crypt]

I know, but the only thing stable is the electricity.
Most houses around just use wifi.

[median wraith]

tought were different ones tbh lol

[celest musk]

great for them

they had fried brains to begin with

[median wraith]

nice TV connection direct to the PC

[celest musk]

so nothing to be afraid of when blasting wifi through your house

[proud jay]

this is why you prepare to easily put in new cable

[cursive crypt]

That frying is speculation at this point. Put a cage because cell towers.

[median wraith]

That connector is the one that come in from street or the one that goes to the rear of the modem

[celest musk]

sure it's speculative

but why opt for it, if cables are way more stable

and just because there's cell towers, doesn't mean that you should increase it even further 😄

[cursive crypt]

Because you have to maintain them. Put good cat cables, which might be obsolete, redo the walls.

[cursive crypt]

Cables kicked around etc. You move the desk, no longer a good cable.

Ofc, I'm not against it, but I say there are trade offs.

[median wraith]

got a friend that want to put the modem inside the wall as he only have ethernet connector that come out of the wall, so to conect it directly

idk if that's a good idea

[cursive crypt]

Modem in the wall is next level

[celest musk]

xD

yea

[cursive crypt]

Just put a concrete on the PC.

[celest musk]

those are more common

they are inside the wall, and you can open them for maintenance

[median wraith]

problem is

[celest musk]

but well, that thing is 50 bucks

high price if you build a house

[median wraith]

he have it in the back of the TV on the room

[cursive crypt]

r/electricporn

[celest musk]

so rather go full derp and choose wifi

[proud jay]

or both

if you build a house everything is already high priced

[median wraith]

he have now conectors on every room for ethernet

my question is, you need a switch right ?

you cannot connect all them otherwise

maybe what he wanted was to put the switch inside the wall

I don't think is a good idea to have something there powered

[celest musk]

that wouldn't be my concern

[cursive crypt]

Tell him to put a connector on the ceiling lamp.
This way he can move around the room without obstacles.

[celest musk]

they are small, the fire hazard is minimal

especially if you put it in concrete...

[median wraith]

problem is that, he wants to hide all wires etc in the wall

he have a hole there to place it

with all the wires inside

[cursive crypt]

So he wants wires, but to hide them.

[median wraith]

the wires are there already

[proud jay]

wait, who's putting network switches in the wall?

[median wraith]

I think the whole issue is he needs another ethernet to go inside

[cursive crypt]

Parallel network?

[median wraith]

as the rooms have a out ethernet, but have to figure out how to make another or so

[cursive crypt]

jeez, make your life more complex

[proud jay]

he just needs to have a cable go from his router to his pc lol

[median wraith]

but have multiple rooms

[proud jay]

he only asked to connect his pc

idk why he deleted original message lol

[median wraith]

oh I was talking about other person

[zinc matrix]

Cuz I dont leave screenshots in discord channels

Im paranoid

And a digital noob

[median wraith]

you do well

[cursive crypt]

I sense correlation.

[celest musk]

already saved it

extraxcted the exif data

noted your location

and gonna poop on your door mat

[cursive crypt]

Send credit card info

[proud jay]

are you afraid someone is gonna break into your house and know your internet setup?

[zinc matrix]

Send me a week s worth of supplies, otherwise I dont believe u

[celest musk]

of poop?

how much do you need per day?

[zinc matrix]

Pre-digestion

[median wraith]

btw opinion about the marketplace assets in humble bundle ?

[proud jay]

none

since I don't use unreal or humble

[cursive crypt]

Meshingun looks kinda nice, but I don't recall seeing them in practice.

[median wraith]

yeah those ones

the Dekagon ones looks nice but too many different things for houses

feel like need medieval things

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, theirs are small packages.

[proud jay]

size doesn't matter

[cursive crypt]

That's what he said.

[median wraith]

well are smaller but better quality you can tell

even come with Nanite and non Nanite

appreciate that

[proud jay]

Nanite and Nanot

[median wraith]

lol

there is a heavy acclaimed creator on the marketplace (nono of those two) that removed old versions of packs, then limited it to only modern versions, then dropped support and thats a joke

named it awhile ago, not gonna get anything from there

[cursive crypt]

Some of them have playable demo. Like the Medieval Village package. It is a bit stylized for my taste, but I think you can extract some assets.

... tho for ~30 euro not bad deal for gothic/asian stuff

[median wraith]

right

wondering myself what are the packs used on dungeonborne and the other

[cursive crypt]

I'm not familiar with that one. Meanwhile

[median wraith]

wtf

the bazaar were free no long ago

[cursive crypt]

I know, I think I never bought most of these. Unsure about the Medieval Village.

[median wraith]

you just got the pack right ?

[cursive crypt]

ye

[median wraith]

didn't knew they gave individual keys

[cursive crypt]

They do 🤔

[median wraith]

where the heck you redeem those at epic ?

[cursive crypt]

aah, just google unreal marketplace redeem code

There is a place at your account setings as well on their site

[median wraith]

oh in the profle

and why you don't the medieval village ?

[cursive crypt]

I have it for some fkin reason 🤷‍♂️

[median wraith]

oh

I don't uh

[cursive crypt]

Were you able to redeem the code?

[median wraith]

oh I didn't get the pack myself so

I leaved your codes there to the wild

[cursive crypt]

They are for whoever wants them.

So, if you like it - take it.

[median wraith]

let me check the bazaar level first

[cursive crypt]

Tho, note there might be some incognito hyenas lurking around, ready to grab them 😄

[median wraith]

tomorrow in sale at Penguin or something

you can tell the playable demo is nice

[cursive crypt]

lol

Well, I recall trying it out before.

I suppose you can write them, but it will take awhile.

Check the trailers prolly

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/the-penguin-series-show-colin-farrell-oswald-cobblepot-gif-13645241507407464355

[summer cedar]

It is nice. You didn't understand the game.
You have to access the URL, FIND the download button, AND then be denied in record time.

There's probably a leaderboard of fastest denial times that you should ace.

5 star game. GOTY.

⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

I love how Warpips is so enjoyable and playable even after long breaks from it. 😄

One of those simple games that emphasises the awesomeness of MURICAAA!!! 😄

[median wraith]

in the bazaar one for some reason the windows don't come two sided

you can do on Blender easy anyway

[summer cedar]

which bazaar?

[median wraith]

the pack thry have

[summer cedar]

Is it free?

[median wraith]

they gave free time ago

[summer cedar]

Nothing works when it's free.

That's why it's free.

😄

[median wraith]

na

[summer cedar]

true. but, a valid generalisation. 😄

[median wraith]

isn't free it cost about 100

[summer cedar]

Then yell at that creator a 100 times.

In single capital letters.

Why does EGS want me to sign in again? O_O

Some dude named Shumniy is offering 50% off on his stuff?

And the link opens in a browser tab instead of in the app store's marketplace itself.

[median wraith]

not sure what are you even talking about

[summer cedar]

https://www.epicgames.com/id/exchange?exchangeCode=350952a8136942f890bf0feea7d3361a&redirectUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.unrealengine.com%2Fmarketplace%2Fprofile%2FShumniy%3Fcount%3D20%26discountPercentageRange%3D50%26sortBy%3DeffectiveDate%26sortDir%3DDESC%26start%3D0

This.

[median wraith]

I don't feel like opening that lol

[summer cedar]

There's a banner in EGS app, which says 50% off, but instead of opening it in the app, it opens in the browser.

[median wraith]

oh

yeah all the links open the browser

[summer cedar]

The snake character he designed has 46 textures.

[median wraith]

the app don't even work to me

[summer cedar]

I didn't know you'd use THAT many textures on one character.

Things have come a long, long way.

16 Material instances, too.

He says the model is game-ready with 69k triangles.

[median wraith]

did they gave any sewers pack ?

[summer cedar]

Shumniy or EGS marketplace in general?

[median wraith]

general

[summer cedar]

Search doesn't turn up any free assets.

There are $5 textures for sewer parts, like manhole covers.

[median wraith]

I don't see any decent pack tbh

[summer cedar]

Check NHC - Bunker Hidden Objects.

and Modular Underground Tunnels.

[median wraith]

thought people was more into sewers

[summer cedar]

They aren't free.

They aren't sewers per se, but maybe you could scavenge what you need.

[median wraith]

that's AI genrated crap

photos

[summer cedar]

@median wraith - Found one more - Sewer Tunnels - Modular Pack.

There's also Horror Sewer Environment.

For some reason, none of these show up when I search for Sewer specifically. 😒

[median wraith]

because you maybe browser sewers*

[summer cedar]

maybe.

[summer cedar]

This is why you have guns.

Shoot the panel.

Problem solved... permanently.

[median wraith]

For some reason Unity Editor and Unity games cause micro freezes on all my computers

once they start loading items or something for the first time

[zinc wagon]

you can thank the fact that unity likes to load things synchronously

including scenes

:)

[proud jay]

just use unreal

[summer cedar]

How could you use Unity?

Do you not realise that there lies only chaos and division?

You must realise harmony in Unreal alone.

[median wraith]

makes no sense to happen in-game

idk

[zinc wagon]

it does when you do an io operation "like loading an asset from disk" in the main thread

that would make a noticeably even in unreal.

[median wraith]

no no

here there game totally stops

in Unreal you don't get freezes meanwhile in game

freezes for a whole second each random time

[zinc wagon]

oh i dont know then maybe something else is happening. so you have the editor open, can you check the profiler?

see what's taking so much frame time

[median wraith]

It happen on editor once I rotate the camera or move across, it happen in games I have made in Unity from steam

and was happening for me 10 years in row in 3 different computers with different GPUs, different CPUs different windows

I see other people reporting it but at this point I have no clue what the hell can be

[zinc wagon]

yeah no clue either here. it's still put good money on unity just loading stuff synchronously anyway though, maybe even doing some of the render stuff there as well?

idk and idc im glad i left that engine when i did. but damn i do miss C# 🥲

[median wraith]

feels like the first time bulking a model from disk + cpu to the gpu or something

maybe the textures

[summer cedar]

Embrace the Unreality of nature, Hevedy! Join us! Join us and stay away from the chaos!

👼

[cursive crypt]

Grok is beta

[fathom wadi]

Missed the boat with the name. Grep is a better name for an A.I. that trawls data.

[proud jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/dDVEfj6cSU lol

[summer cedar]

My empire's starbase believes...

...in an eye for an eye.

Sins of a Solar Empire 2

[median wraith]

what the heck is the net host for in ue5 ?

🤔

[summer cedar]

According to Co-Pilot: The presence of multiple .NET Host processes when running Unreal Engine 5 is likely due to the engine’s architecture and how it manages various tasks. Unreal Engine 5 uses the .NET runtime for several of its tools and services, such as the UnrealBuildTool and other automation scripts12. Each of these tasks may require its own instance of the .NET runtime, leading to multiple .NET Host processes running simultaneously.

This is normal behavior and is designed to ensure that different components of the engine can operate independently and efficiently.

---

You may now panic. 😄

[open fog]

what are biggest blueprint in the world?

[median wraith]

Had already 4 crashes trying to open an example project

[cursive crypt]

Maybe the opera in Sidney

[cursive crypt]

.net ¯_(ツ)_/¯

No bigger offense needed.

[shy veldt]

Full circle: made super advanced physics theorem and now using said theorem for lighting in Unreal to calc light scattering and diffusion 🤣

Like lumen is technically like 1.8% faster, but this ends up with better light diffusion 🙂

[shy veldt]

Go look at some master materials 🤣

[shy veldt]

Basically the engine keeps these running for client and listen server testing along with insights tools and net profiling tools

[shy veldt]

True UBT needs it as well

[median wraith]

after the update of engine isn't happening in the minor last version

insight tools don't work like that from what i know, you need to run a command etc

this was at shaders compiling makes no sense

[shy veldt]

There def could have been too many started up in last relesse but the .net is normal. Net stuff usually is active and remains dormant processing wise until used so it doesn't eat up cpu and ram but also does not take a long time to start outside of using the command to start profiling or insights tracking.

Ie if it wasn't running it would take a lot longer to switch from standalone mode to client/listen server

Or it would take longer to launch net profiler beyond the command

[summer cedar]

Sometimes, you just bring your A game.

Titan ship vs other ships in the fleet - size comparison. 😄

[pale scarab]

I just learned some fun fact and I wanna share it, do you guys know there's ONLY ONE PERSON LEFT ALIVE that was born in 1907?!

Take care guys

[shy veldt]

Random question for people to get "philosophical" about; but would having a near sentient/possibly sentient AGI play games count as cheating at the game if they got really really really good as inhuman good?

[fathom wadi]

Yes. Even bog standard AI is classed as cheating in poker for example. The World Series of Poker 2024 had a scandal because one of the final table players had a team of people with an A.I. trained off the data of the player to tell him the best plays. And he won.

[shy veldt]

So, even if the AI is sentient and got done writing a story and wanted to play a game like League, it's playing would inherently be cheating even if it's playing to play and not to win unfairly?

[fathom wadi]

if it's in the rules is the bottom line. If not, no. If so, yes

[shy veldt]

Totally hypothetical atm not trying to break any games atm

Hmm would an AI and AGI be classed the same? Or an AI versus a singularity? What if a super advanced alien capable of beating any human wanted to play?

[fathom wadi]

no they are different things. One trains itself from it's own prompts. The other is prompted to train itself on a set of data

[shy veldt]

So, an AGI that developed by itself would be fine?

As in level of Chappie learned for itself

[fathom wadi]

Take game A.I. It's just a preset list of behaviours and circumstances. It's like deterministic physics. If you influence it enough into a set of strict guidelines, then it can only be as good as you tell it to be. That's important because you can't have A.I. that gets better and better forever. It needs to be dumbed down to match the player. If you let a sentient AGI system learn a game it would have a goal, to win. Anything else is restrictive by morality, nature and influenced by us to limit it artificially.

the question I'd have to ask is if we had a sentient AGI, why would it play computer games? To test itself perhaps? I'd think it would have more self-realising tasks based on it's derivative advancement systems. When asked "Which task is next by importance?", it's hardly gonna say "Grind out some First Descendant mats for 8 hours" over "rewrite subroutines over X iterations until execution time and accuracy is better than last time".

[shy veldt]

Here's the question, an AGI is capable or near human sentience. The goal could easily be to play with what the AGI perceives as friends. Would the AGI always winning due to the nature of its existence still defeat the goal that would empirically be "play with friends" versus just win the game?

[fathom wadi]

Again you are implying control over the AI there. I can't see any reason for it to play a game unless it was told to and agreed to. By that point it's probably not wise for it to play online multiplayer or the chances of it developing a reason to use real life alternatives to beat the player might be more appealing 🙂

Also, it's likely we could never understand what the A.I. was doing unless it wanted to translate it to us, as they develop their own more optimised languages.

anyway. just stopped for a coffee break. back to straightening UVs. ugh.

[shy veldt]

Nice nice, thank you for the insights! And oof I understand that UV pain, especially with painted material UVs

[celest musk]

Did someone get the Dekogon humble bundle?

[cursive crypt]

I saw a Meshingun one, not gecko gone?

[celest musk]

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/dekogon-townscape-essentials-2000-unreal-engine-assets

[cursive crypt]

oh, true, hmm... not for my plate

[pale scarab]

Black wukong was made by unreal engine! Wow

[broken sigil]

This is pretty crazy (well too me at least) https://youtu.be/o0A9M5wHBA4

tldr; the detector for an extremely rare type of particle decay sits kilometers below mountain rocks to shield it from outside radiation, but it has to be so accurate that even the rocks at that point produce radiation that interferes with it... So it also needs to be protected with lead shielding, but lead is also radioactive....

And this is where the 2000 years old sunken Roman shipwreck that was carrying lead comes in. Because it has been sitting for so long the radiation has decayed and stabilized and it has been protected from the outside radiation because it's been sitting at the bottom of the ocean and it so happens to be perfect as the shielding for this

It's kinda crazy to think, something that has been made 2000 years ago and was lost for good (at the time) is now being used to build some of the most advanced pieces of technology
Or is this only interesting to me 🤣

[soft night]

the plate

some say blue civilation comes from ancient times tech used modern times

[cursive crypt]

ngl, sounds cool, old stuff can be great too

[median wraith]

no, but if you do, tell us if are keys to redeem on Epic or what

the other pack were keys

[celest musk]

yes it's redeem on epic

it says in the details

[median wraith]

says redeem

but don't says if Epic or their site as others

[celest musk]

i prefer it that way

Redeem your keys. All of the software in this bundle is available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. They can be redeemed on the Epic Games Marketplace.

[median wraith]

uh

idk why they just don't give their mega packs

[celest musk]

i hate how laertes and machinegun do redeems on their own/gumroad

[median wraith]

bet its because this way looks way more

[celest musk]

yea 😄

i guess so, too

but you still get a shitton of assets for that price

[median wraith]

Was yesterday checking this Old West demo they made with Epic

had a lot of crashes on my 5.4.0 branch, bet need to update to the last

on the last from launcher works fine

[celest musk]

they also did a lot of assets for the city sample

[median wraith]

yep

my issue with the realistic assets is I feel like not all will be able to play

I don't even get more than 40FPS on the Old West demo lmao

after a bit of optimizzation*

[celest musk]

most packs have a nanite and a "low poly" version

[median wraith]

yep that's nice from Dekogon

sadly looks different for some reason

like the table on the old west is red on low poly and blue in high poly

with a total texture of wood different

and different atlas as are rebakes

I don't get it

[celest musk]

also doesn't look like Dekogon has a Suburbs pack with all combined on Epic MP

so seems like they are split in general

only "pack" seems to be the police station

which alone is probably already worth the 30 bucks

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/police-headquarters

[median wraith]

I mean the pack cost 90€ on my end

[celest musk]

huh?

[median wraith]

that one you pasted

[celest musk]

oh, yea

[median wraith]

The humble is about 30€

[celest musk]

it's in the humble bundle

[median wraith]

is on 4.27, sadly cannot tell the same from the rest

[celest musk]

are you still using 4.27?!?

[median wraith]

yeah clients etc usually keep at 4.27 for VR

and do my heavy edited branch

last time I was on 5.4

were waitinf for nvidia to release their plugin for 4 months

idk if they did already

[celest musk]

reminds me of the shitshow that Meta delivers 😄

with their native plugin

[median wraith]

oh yeah Quest

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-tv-show-quest-glorious-this-quest-only-grows-more-glorious-knuckles-gif-11266880392630320420

[median wraith]

whats the store you usually guys use outside of Unreal makretplace

if you get some asset or plugin ?

[celest musk]

for unreal nothing but UE MP

i bought some textures on another site a while ago tho

[median wraith]

but there are some times with plugins that outside of Epic suppoprt more versions etc

like on itch or gumroad

[celest musk]

never encountered that

i've seen some on Gumroad, but nothing which sparked enough interest to buy it

[median wraith]

I did a tool for example

but cannot release for the 4.27 from what I know

so maybe place it outside too

[soft night]

maybe you will

[shy veldt]

I make all my own tools for the most part 🙃😅 I'm weird with a lot of free time so if it's a simple plugin or need, I just make it

But have gotten textures from Itch!

Like for signs and billboards

[median wraith]

what I don't like from itch is they payment methods to devs

[proud jay]

https://tenor.com/view/trust-issues-we're-the-millers-gif-14556745821137276288

[median wraith]

sold my tools at the end of the day rather to web devs than game devs lmao

hope Epic don't remove the tools we got from the makretplace

once they release their new thing

there is a warning in one of the humble bundle packs

Let me convert all to no nanite and see if this improves

[tulip orbit]

wait... remove tools? what tools? what new thing?!

[median wraith]

https://www.fab.com/en-US/support

[cursive crypt]

fak

fak support and help

These 10 days warning sit for more than 10 days.

#fab had some comments

[median wraith]

comments about what

[tulip orbit]

oh, anything bought on the UE MP should be transferred to the new thingamabob tho right?

[cursive crypt]

10 days to fab apocalypse

or marketplace destruction, I dunno

[median wraith]

what the heck

but the 10 days warning is there since days ago

we will keep the assets ?

[cursive crypt]

This is about redeeming, not keeping

[tulip orbit]

just read the faq, anything you already own will be transferred

free and paid stuff

[median wraith]

UE5 needs some baker for LODs

[median wraith]

we hope

[tulip orbit]

reading a forum post, as of the discussion in march last year, sounds like artstation purchases could be problematic.

I dont feel like reading the whole thing tho... so I think I'll just wait and see

[celest musk]

?! it has

[tulip orbit]

I dont buy many assets so it shouldnt be a big issue for me anyways, barely use any of the ones I have gotten free or otherwise

[cursive crypt]

You sound wise man. I buy, but do not use.

[median wraith]

I mean you have a reduction tool inside to create LODs

but no a baker to lowpoly

there is an external

[celest musk]

there's an internal, too

[median wraith]

where ?

[celest musk]

the convert to static mesh thing iirc

could also be a 2nd option

[median wraith]

No I don't mean that

[celest musk]

but there's a thing which gives you way more control

e.g. texture/material packing

[median wraith]

I mean generate aLOD inside the satatimesh menu itself

baking the whole thing and regenerating a mesh inside

[celest musk]

i don't understand the problem

[median wraith]

let me illustrate

restarting one sec

[celest musk]

either you dont want baked materials then you use the internal thing in the static mesh viewer

OR you want baked materials, then you create a new mesh in UE with baked materials

and create LODs for that

[median wraith]

so you have this wall with individual boards

once you execute the LOD gen

everything is fucked

you can easy replace this baking all into a flat Box

so a tool to maker a cage and bake all there

[celest musk]

i guess i got it

you want something like you would do in a 3D app

[median wraith]

Just as this

but inside it

[celest musk]

where you bake high poly to low poly mesh

[median wraith]

something like the actual HLOD system but inside to create a LOD

[celest musk]

ah yea, that's the thing which i meant

[median wraith]

teachnically the HLODs are that tool inside

I have a nice tool plugin

but is just for trees and foliage planes etc

[celest musk]

that's an impostor baker?

[median wraith]

yep

[celest musk]

didn't they add something like that in UE?

i kind of remember a talk where they covered that

[median wraith]

that thing is the hell to work with

[celest musk]

but i think back then they used some actor as helper

[median wraith]

lol

this rendered even the error XD

[median wraith]

yeah but you need to open a level

load item by item press play

bake and then manaully etc

this goes into a click

[celest musk]

is the cubemap thing good for cube maps of rooms?

or would that capture from the wrong POV

[median wraith]

mmm na is just for foliage and such

[proud jay]

happy birthday btw @median wraith

[median wraith]

lol

[celest musk]

i have a hard time to tell if Dieter is joking or not...

[proud jay]

every day is hev's birthday

[median wraith]

so removed Nanite and now I'm getting x2 FPS

🚬

[proud jay]

that's nanuts

[median wraith]

to be fair all have way less density

someone asked me about poly

this scene is about 10 millions

on view

[cursive crypt]

wait, so walnites make stuff slower?

who cares about density so much if your fps is /2

[median wraith]

well yeah is a realtime LOD system so

to me is slower

[cursive crypt]

frankly, I never digged so much into nanites

But they all promote it as kinda free quality

[median wraith]

depends of the purpose you have or what you want

[cursive crypt]

except for hdd size

[median wraith]

from what I know even if you use Nanite people is using HLODs

again depends of the purpose

[cursive crypt]

It is a house, what hlod

[median wraith]

if I want a ultra realistic sim at 5m max range I will go nanite all way long

[proud jay]

nanite is kinda cool

it makes it so the pixels per triangle on screen is more or less consistent

[median wraith]

yeah

Ubisoft have another cool tech idk how they do

but you can notice on Rainbow Six since couple years ago or more

there is a realtime poly reduction once you move away etc

polygons merge

and you can see the faces moving in some models

technically if you are using nanite

don't need normal maps, you do ?

[cursive crypt]

ye

I wont miss baking

[tulip orbit]

I miss getting baked

[median wraith]

[tulip orbit]

I'd still use normal maps, atleast until machines can handle full nanite quality, until then its gotta be a trade off for released games right?

[errant raven]

@broken sigil you may take pics of random insects, but look what I got a pic of

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-plus-foodie-delicious-homemade-foodiegram-gif-23069646

[cursive crypt]

Ye, kinda sad this nanite stuff turned out like the lumen stuff.

[errant raven]

I havent eaten in 3 days, and this is what you post

[cursive crypt]

You started first.

[errant raven]

True true

[unborn lotus]

I mean it's amazing for artists, I can just do a medium poly, completely skip on high to low and baking - work and texture on the final mesh. Probably cuts time in half

And i can get to the fun texturing part very fast

[errant raven]

Texturing is fun?

[unborn lotus]

Yes its the most fun

[errant raven]

Why

[cursive crypt]

So, you think it is fine for medium poly? But how fast it is in this case. Prolly Hev have tried some pretty heavy meshes.

[errant raven]

How

It's very annoying trying to mask the tiling

[unborn lotus]

Yes I did a test with some props and it was a great fresh workflow

[tulip orbit]

I'm still not great at modelling, so I dont get much further than the low poly 😦

[cursive crypt]

@median wraith have you tried medium poly nanites?

[unborn lotus]

Even heavy meshes from zbrush, I can decimate them a bit and same quality, ok-ish unwrapping

[errant raven]

I reverted to pixel art 😄

[unborn lotus]

But completely skip on retopo

[tulip orbit]

I've been very tempted to switch to a 2d game, but I'm worse at 2d art than I am 3d

[cursive crypt]

I think the only reason I bought back then Marmoset is the baking shit

[errant raven]

Can always pay someone to make your art for you

[tulip orbit]

cept I'm also completley broke

[errant raven]

Or blackmail them into it

[median wraith]

nope

@cursive crypt by the way too bad the Pharaoh pack isn't included but the props 😅

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-it-torch-it-burn-it-down-ablaze-light-it-up-gif-15195566

[errant raven]

You dont like dwayne johnson swimming in baked beans?

[cursive crypt]

ah, lol, I suppose they could have included more of their stuff, but then nobody will buy soon from them in the MP, lol

[errant raven]

I spent my daily 20 openart credits to get that one single image dammit

[median wraith]

damm man why

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/cwc-rainbow-factory-computer-screen-computer-screen-gif-16478226

[cursive crypt]

wut 🤔

[proud jay]

just make it a rotating door 🧠

https://tenor.com/view/trek-star-trek-tng-worf-riker-gif-24090226

[cursive crypt]

ah, lol, I see

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/simpon-sideshow-bob-advertisement-mayor-prison-gif-23342142

[median wraith]

yay 90FPS

[proud jay]

why not 9000FPS?

you should buy a new pc

[median wraith]

lol

hey that's more than what I get at Hunt at this point

[errant raven]

Valorant fucking SUCKS

Csgo has better hit registration than this shit cartoon game

[proud jay]

could it be that you're just bad?

[summer cedar]

Today's selection of egregious murder swarms.

Notice the FOUR starbases stacked near the sun (two of them are inside each other).
That's a hub to the linked solar systems. This map has four to five such hubs and holding them makes conquering the linked systems easy.

[errant raven]

Negative

I hit people with bullets, because it plays the sound queue for that. Yet I die and it says I only hit them twice, in the chest.

Whyd it play the sound 3-5+ times if it only hit twice?

30 ping, what gives

Let the grown men that like to meow and bark for egirls have that game

[fluid bloom]

sounds are usually done with client side prediction

while actual hit registration is up to the server

TL;DR: server thinks you didn't hit

effects are effects

[mild gust]

Smoke and mirrors?

lol

[median wraith]

@celest musk Surprised me the low res textures of the old packs from Dekagon

[fluid bloom]

yup

try playing the OG Unreal Tournament

client side firing effects and such are affected by latency if I recall correctly

zero client side prediction

I might remember wrong though, so take that with a pinch of salt 😄

[mild gust]

Idk I like to think of it a lot like magic in a way.

Illusions

"Faking it"

[pale scarab]

is wukong from unreal engine??? 😮

wow. that game got 1million downloads on release 😍 awesome job unreal engine

[median wraith]

yeah unreal engine did it itself

[summer cedar]

Unreal AI.

Nice. Atlas Fallen and Core Keeper are coming to Game Pass. 😄

[celest musk]

did you get it already?

i have to wait for cash on paypal 😄

[median wraith]

yep

good thing I ended using models from Sketchfab lol

[queen isle]

wow

[zinc matrix]

I just spent an hour debugging the dumbest UE problem ever. After I was done I was cackling like the joker because it was so dumb.

Had a DataAsset for my character and it would crash every time I referenced it, saying it was null. WTF, I can clearly see I'm defining it in my BP.
Tried everything. Maybe it was the metadata making it not initialize properly? Maybe something was wrong with the forward declaration, messing with the constructor? Doing all sorts of weird, borderline esoteric shit to get the DataAsset pointer to work.

Oh, my GameMode had the default player pawn as the base C++ class instead of the BP pawn.

That's what took me an hour to figure out and it made me laugh for 5 minutes straight

[summer cedar]

Not surprising, really. They've been marketing it for a while now. I've seen the trade shows where people got to preview the gameplay on YouTube. Even Ranton (a cool YouTuber) went to a gamescon in Germany to play it. Sadly, he didn't get to play at that time. It was too crowded.

Plus, the IP itself has a strong following in the east.

[median wraith]

searched for spanish guitar

now got ads on youtube to learn spanish 🚬

[median wraith]

I'm really curious about how the heck they did the illumination in The Outlast Trials

have some strange in-game baked cubemaps

[dense storm]

So manu sheep

[brittle holly]

“But my lord, there is no such force”

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-greatest-of-all-time-the-goat-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-seven-bucks-the-best-gif-17539885

[cursive crypt]

jeez, duckduckgo has embedded json pretty printer

[long viper]

I did not think a launcher as bad as epic games could exist. I cannot install anything from my vault right now. It just does not want to load. If it feels like loading it, it will but 90% of the time it will not load. This problem didn't exist like 2 versions ago, I don't know what bugs they fixed but I feel like they fixed the good bugs that made the launcher work.

[pale scarab]

I'm not sure. It looks awesome though. I'm just waiting for a review to see if there's replayability

[white oxide]

Are there any courses for making a strategy game in unreal?

like build structures, deploy units, fight, win

[celest musk]

unreal editor itself is RTS

place the nodes right

fight

win

[white oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/usosilly-laugh-haha-laugh-funny-face-fake-laugh-gif-12391005

im being serious

I really want to develop a strategy game

[fleet tangle]

What sort?

Something like SC2?

They're really hard.

[white oxide]

nah more like "rusted warfare"

small handful of units, 5 structures, all on the same flat plane, no superweapons, just simple missile combat

victory through destorying the enemy base

didnt epic release an RTS basic project?

[fleet tangle]

There's an rts sample project.

[brittle holly]

Cropout

[long viper]

Wow, this is extremely bad. I reinstalled epic games to see if that fixes the launcher not loading vault cache. It did not but that's the least of my worries right now because when I uninstalled it, the big brain launcher that is epic games, uninstalled all the fucking plugins I had in unreal. So now I cannot reinstall them and therefore cannot access my project.

[vestal sky]

Source control is a wonderful thing haha

[long viper]

well i mean i source control my project, just didn't think I'd need to copy a few marketplace plugins to my project and source control those too

[vestal sky]

yeah my project has the plugins under source control too

Cause yes uninstalling launcher would uninstall what’s associated with the launcher

[long viper]

You see, I'd agree if it uninstalled everything but it uninstalled like 50% of unreal lol. There's like several GBs worth of files still there, so idk what that launcher is trying to do

I had 2 unreal versions installed, it uninstalled all of 5.3, but with 5.4, it only uninstalled the plugins and a handful of files so maybe I overwhelmed it but overall i feel like there should be a toggle or something since unreal does not need epic games to at least function

Anyway, I somehow managed to get the vault to load. It just randomly decided to load one time. This is a really weird issue, a few people I know have it too.

[carmine wraith]

it kinda makes sense .. furiously connect the dots with wires before deadlines

[carmine wraith]

it seemed real terrible to me

[pale scarab]

Anyone else curious about this? Like they discontinued E3 but... There's Gamescom and summer fest??? Huh? Why not just continue E3?? E3 has quite a history and it's iconic but they disband that and create THREE MORE game events??

[fluid bloom]

👀

is that... Malcolm from UT?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/bustacell-unreal-tournament-ut99-meme-ut-meme-gif-25826196

Very close, what is this?

[fluid bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLihxsmI_OU

the words "Unreal Tournament" do flash there for a brief second 😄

Games that inspired the 15 epic stories include Armored Core, Concord, Crossfire, Dungeons & Dragons, Exodus, Honor of Kings, Mega Man, New World: Aeternum, PAC-MAN, various PlayStation Studios games, Sifu, Spelunky, The Outer Worlds, Unreal Tournament and Warhammer 40,000.

[cursive crypt]

I got it

aww

[fluid bloom]

I'm now expecting an epic showdown between Xan and Malcolm in its episode

[cursive crypt]

Bring Syzygy

hmm... I haven't played most of these games, lol

df would be pacman about 🤔

[fleet tangle]

How is there an episode inspired of Concord already?

[empty dune]

youre late to the E3 party, by the end of it, they were just partnership driven and didnt really award creativity anymore. im glad they are dead

also, i found out about Rive and NoesisGUI. i think i can safely say i gained 10 extra years for my lifespan just from the stress getting vaporised

[tribal kraken]

What paper format is used in America for scientific papers?

[cursive crypt]

a4?

I haven't seen anything else at least.

[surreal marten]

freedom paper

someone remind the devs to document this....pls

[tribal kraken]

Yeah, but from what I googled Americans have their own system that doesn't use ISO

[cursive crypt]

I became color blind just looking at it.

[surreal marten]

colors help me differentiate

[cursive crypt]

Well, that would be interesting. As I said, I haven't seen anything else. Check out the publication sites.

There is definitely a difference.

[shy veldt]

APA format usually, what I use!

[obsidian turret]

Is there a way to see exactly from which country are buying my game? I see united states, china et cetera but there's also "Others". How can I see those "Others" countries?

[proud jay]

where?

[errant raven]

You mean gears of war beta

[errant raven]

Your ide is very prideful for some reason

[surreal marten]

im homophobic tho

[errant raven]

Oh, you're one of the good guys

Wait

[surreal marten]

'-')

[empty dune]

Both of you need god

[surreal marten]

🙂

[errant raven]

Why, he literally agrees with me

As it was written

[surreal marten]

yall colors was not the point....they just wrote @todo document in the source code....

my manager will kill me if i do this

[errant raven]

Colours is all I saw

I'm racist that way

[empty dune]

Your manager clearly hasn't worked on epic source code lmao

[surreal marten]

thats true

[empty dune]

Or valve's code

[errant raven]

Valve has source code?

[surreal marten]

my manager needs every code commented properly...

[errant raven]

Or do they have source source code

[empty dune]

The fuck do you think counter strike runs on

[errant raven]

Source engine

[carmine wraith]

source source lawl

[errant raven]

Not source code

Duh

[empty dune]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-19410756

[errant raven]

Is that even how you spell source?

What the fuck is that word

[carmine wraith]

valves source of source code is their open source source engine source

[empty dune]

They are very resourceful

[errant raven]

Sores

[surreal marten]

i also keep my ide zoomed out...ppl complain about how small my code looks

[errant raven]

I dont think valve has written a single line of code before. They just wait for a indie dev to make a hit, and buy it + them

[empty dune]

@pearl elk have you heard of noesisgui and rive?

[errant raven]

Head canon is that that's why the first game they did make flopped so badly. (Cs2)

[empty dune]

I found out about those today and my god, they make all my UI woes go away

[summer cedar]

Warning: Incoming screenshot spam.

[errant raven]

Nose is gui

[summer cedar]

Today's eye-candy.

There's some planetary genocide sprinkled in there for good measure.

[errant raven]

Bro is that enders game

[summer cedar]

Consult the two ships spraying chemicals on the planet.

[summer cedar]

Sins of a Solar Empire 2.

[carmine wraith]

is that a game you're working on?

oh

i was about to be impressed

[summer cedar]

I wish. It's SoaSE 2. 😄

[carmine wraith]

still impressive

[summer cedar]

When you see me post black and white screenshots, with no textures, no materials, and no work put in, those'll be mine.

[errant raven]

What is impressive

[summer cedar]

But, they'll still sell for millions. 😄

[errant raven]

The game or mass genocide

[summer cedar]

Both.

Clearly.

[errant raven]

Clerely

You know what game I find very impressive

Madden NFL games

[carmine wraith]

Is that even still a series

is madden even alive still

[errant raven]

Same god damn play book layout for defensive and offensive sides since the god damn n64

[carmine wraith]

lol

[errant raven]

There is literally not a single new play or anything

Just better graphics and shit

[carmine wraith]

Well, has football even changed, either?

[errant raven]

NCAA 2014 was still the best damn thing i ever played

Yeah each team has their own plays they practice

[summer cedar]

If they want to improve the football video games, they need to give the players shoulder-mounted missile launchers.

[errant raven]

Also have standard plays everyone knows, but coaches do make their own plays. Dont see why EA cant come up with any

[surreal marten]

basketball?

[carmine wraith]

Hm if they would release like at the end of the season, they could have all the real plays for all teams, if they wanted to i guess.

[summer cedar]

The football should have built-in landmine deployment systems.

[errant raven]

Dumbest fuckin game I ever seen

Aside from golf

[summer cedar]

Every minute, it drops a landmine wherever it is - on the audience, the player, the referee.

[carmine wraith]

the referees are mined, i like it

[errant raven]

Referees are a fucking joke in highschool football

[summer cedar]

Also, every player should wear power armour on their torsos and above.

Absolutely nothing below.

[carmine wraith]

you can set them off by like dodgeball, and catch the ricochets then break the rules till the ref respawn

[errant raven]

Those assholes constantly get paid off to give shit calls for the opposite team

[carmine wraith]

luckily its highschool, so it only costs like 10 dollars

[errant raven]

Highschool is also when college scouters come to watch teams play to offer them scholarships to play for them

It's free when you're on the team that's playing 😉

[carmine wraith]

hey you remember a really old arcade game that had a weird multi-monitor display and was robots playing baseball?

[summer cedar]

The only way to get successfully scouted is to find those referees and make them sleep with the fishes.

[carmine wraith]

i think they DID do one for football too

[summer cedar]

I learnt that from the Mafia games.

[errant raven]

What robot game

Only robot game I know is that blue vs red guy boxing game

[summer cedar]

This one?

[errant raven]

Dont think they're considered as robots tho

[carmine wraith]

https://images.app.goo.gl/tgoj9FFpC4dVTP5k6

[summer cedar]

Yep.

[errant raven]

Nes game?

[carmine wraith]

AN ARCADE GAME

and a NES port

i guess

[errant raven]

Never seen that in an arcade

[carmine wraith]

but yea one time i saw a similar arcade cabinet but it was football .. maybe

[errant raven]

Only arcade I've been to is the one on the boardwalk at myrtle beach tho

[carmine wraith]

anyway, just saying game ideas

well this was forever ago, when there were arcades at all the malls

[errant raven]

Dave and buster's dont count does it, that's all modern shit that's rigged

Big bean time

I binged almost 2 full seasons of the boys, it's an okay show

[cursive crypt]

AI bean

[errant raven]

That's photoshopped dingus

Ai cant even fathom making something like that

[cursive crypt]

Monster. Looks like the egg of the new Alien

[errant raven]

It's too literal when it comes to the generation query

[carmine wraith]

my understanding is you give it some starting images

if you actually want something specific

[errant raven]

I asked it to put dwayne Johnsons face on a bean.

[carmine wraith]

a picture is worth a thousand words

[errant raven]

Takes it way to literally

[carmine wraith]

actually thats not literal enough?

[errant raven]

Well bad example

Was gonna say that

[carmine wraith]

if you gave it an image of a bean

[carmine wraith]

and said put his face on that bean

[errant raven]

That's a sausage

[carmine wraith]

its tomato bean

[cursive crypt]

It is a lucky draw.

[cursive crypt]

bean brain, what do you think

[errant raven]

It can do reflections just fine, but good god you ask it to draw letters and it shits itself

[cursive crypt]

Here is the bean with its little ones

[errant raven]

Sause

[carmine wraith]

"redraw this plate of mystery meat, but with the knife cutting into it, and with an anthropomorphic face of The Rock"

[cursive crypt]

That's how it is written 😛

[errant raven]

You want some tomato sause

Its sauce

[carmine wraith]

tomato sus

are you guys using just chatgpt or what?

[cursive crypt]

They are using us.

[errant raven]

I used openart for the rock pic

Artists hate ai cus it uses their art as references

Cant wait for photographers to speak up on artists using their photos for references

[errant raven]

I'll use chatgpt when it finally tells me how to install the proper mingw to use sfml

Otherwise sfml-graphics-2 and sfml-window-2 will keep giving fatal errors and crashing

[carmine wraith]

why would you bother even shipping a game for linux?

[errant raven]

I'm not

[carmine wraith]

then why are you using mingw?

[errant raven]

It compiles c++ yes

I have like 0 fucking experience with c++

[carmine wraith]

oh. guess im thinking of some other tool not that then

anyway, like visual studio .. is the defacto C++ ide on pc and free

[proud jay]

I don't think c++ is designed for fucking

[carmine wraith]

well you know .. square peg round hole

[errant raven]

These ass fucks swear c++ is better than python, but fail to mention that everything is very sensitive to what compiler youre using, and not just the compiler, the compilers version matters as well

[carmine wraith]

indeed

so trying to build someones library?

[cursive crypt]

can confirm, i fuk

[cursive crypt]

cpp also has zero xp with you

[errant raven]

I was just trying to get a window to pop up, and stay open with a basic loop

[carmine wraith]

then you deleted sfml and went back to unreal?

[errant raven]

Tried to skip compiler problems by just using cmake but even cmakes HELP tab doesnt fucking tell you how to use cmake

Really helpful, 10/10

[carmine wraith]

im telling you dude, use visual studio to compile C++