pickup skrims
#lounge
pearl elk
cursive crypt
professional?
summer cedar
I didn't know you could open tabs in Windows Explorer.
You learn something new every day.
median wraith
professional?
well that's an option lol
median wraith
I didn't know you could open tabs in Windows Explorer.
I think that's win11 thing
summer cedar
Ah. I just hit Ctrl+T by accident, while trying to copy my hardware spam text.
I mean, while trying to copy my text of devotion to the Emperor of Man.
Not spam, definitely not....
It means they are into special sex.
Get your instruments and toolbox out. The latter is optional.
median wraith
nope
fleet tangle
I would happily die eating that.
fleet tangle
Call of Banksthulhu.
errant raven
Smash
pale scarab
ugh i just have to pause the tutorial just to say this...
learning widget fking sucks!! its sooo boring 😭
ok time to go back 😔
soft night
pale scarab
Go with Slate.
Unreal marketplace?
fleet tangle
empty dune
it's as exciting as it is confusing and obfuscated.
Slate haunts my dreams at this point
fleet tangle
I actually kinda like slate.
soft night
slaters gonna slate
pale scarab
<https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/slate-overview-for-...
wtf this looks neater!! why did the TUTORIAL DIDNT USE THIS INSTEAD 😭
thank you btw!!!
pale scarab
there is literally <#375021750393634826>
whoa that's awesome!
got a use of C++
so i dig it
fleet tangle
thank you btw!!!
Also check out the pinned messages in #slate
And this #slate message
pale scarab
Also check out the pinned messages in <#375021750393634826>
oh... UE4....
cos i use UE5 😅 but thank you so much for the suggestion
i will still learn it btw
cursive crypt
But I have changed UwU
soft night
cursive crypt
lofty lark
cursive crypt
rare sparrow
I think I just noticed something really silly about the For Each Loop macro. It's doing extra work for literally no reason at all. It has two local variables which are doing the exact same thing. Loop Counter counts which loop it's on, and then it sets Array Index to equal Loop Counter before it gets used making it entirely redundant 😆
The only difference deleting Array Index and just using Loop Counter would do is make the Array Index output pin be one past the last index on Completed, but that could just be fixed with a decrement int right before calling Completed.
soft night
celest musk
this is imho the most elegant while also performant solution i came up with
array index is cached to avoid looking it up each iteration
soft night
summer cedar
Did Ponkiss leave?
rare sparrow
Yeah, I was going to say would caching last index be better than checking if the index is valid each loop. I mean, the custom for each loops I've been using for a while now cache the last index
celest musk
idk if it even needs to be assigned
not sure if the for loop would invoke a call each iteration
but idc anymore, the C++ one from Ramius was already better and i've improved on that one
rare sparrow
not sure if the for loop would invoke a call each iteration
It would
celest musk
well, it's passed by value to the macro, or not?
rare sparrow
Could also replace the +1 and it's Assign with an Increment Int
celest musk
on the other hand, macros are weird
also each connected thing on the output pin will invoke a GET call
which with pure nodes is horrible, since all this would execute a pure node on the input pin each time
rare sparrow
From my understanding Macros (in blueprint, I have no idea what C++ is like) are always by ref
rare sparrow
Using them is exactly like copy and pasting the code inside into the graph
celest musk
the CPP version does kind of the same tho, it basically creates a macro
just that C++ allows to do the creation of that macro more dynamic
rare sparrow
Now which of these is better, probably ++, right?
celest musk
🤷
celest musk
who knows what ++ really does 😄 (but in theory it should be better)
summer cedar
Well, since Ponkiss left, is there anyone else here who uses Linux? Ubuntu maybe?
summer cedar
😄
soft night
ben you should check trisquel
summer cedar
Well, I was thinking of installing Ubuntu alongside Windows on my new Nvme drive, on the new computer.
celest musk
ben you should check trisquel
why?
i said i use gentoo, i'm already superior to arch btw. 😛
summer cedar
If I create two partitions, 100GB each, that's enough for Ubuntu and Win 11 each, right?
That won't mean much to me, since I am very n00by in Linux. 😄
celest musk
why would you do this tho?
summer cedar
For testing, learning, etc.
celest musk
you don't learn that way
summer cedar
Not asking about how to learn; I am asking about dual booting. 😄
summer cedar
Aye, does it dual boot though?
celest musk
they all use the same bootmanagers anyways
most will use grub2
and idk about dual boot with modern windows
celest musk
i think it's easier to just not setup a dualboot in the bootmanager and use the bios one
to not confuse the UEFI bullshit out of your OS
celest musk
and to keep some sanity
summer cedar
Ubuntu basically has a 'detect Windows and install alongside safely' feature.
I wanted to know if someone had used it successfully.
I almost did it the other day, but I think Ubuntu doesn't like my old hardware.
soft night
summer cedar
I've used RabbitOS distro before.
It was nice to boot from a USB.
🤔 Huh. Good thing I googled it. It seems Ubuntu has issues with the 4060ti. You need to play with the GPU driver versions to see what actually works. 😨
Fine. I'll use the Janisku OS.
I've heard it doesn't need drivers or software even.
Just works.
median wraith
Well the Hunt update is cool
basically is like have the Red Dead level in here now
rare sparrow
🤷
Turns out the answer is probably no since it's actually a macro as well, and that one is also doing extra stuff for no reason 
Surprisingly they actually use reroute nodes in this one
rare sparrow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
celest musk
get the plugin from ramius, it's already faster than what you can do in macros iirc
and you get a foreach for TMap, etc.
for the native forEach to appear in BP you just need a small change in the K2 node code
// K2Node API
[[nodiscard]] bool IsNodeSafeToIgnore( ) const override { return true; }
void GetMenuActions( FBlueprintActionDatabaseRegistrar& ActionRegistrar ) const override;
[[nodiscard]] FText GetMenuCategory( ) const override;
like implement those
you can look at the K2Node_MapForEach as reference
summer cedar
@proud jay You alive?
carmine wraith
Not being an audio engineer, nor even seeing a spectrograph of an audio clip in more than passing before .. this is pretty cool actually seeing some patterns here (its a jet flyby).
summer cedar
What patterns are you noticing?
carmine wraith
summer cedar
I see the commonalities, but how should I interpret them?
Or rather, in what context?
carmine wraith
the sweeping is, i think, pitch shift do to doppler as it goes from approaching to passing
and the rectangular selected hot points, are a very strong jet-engine ripping sound that comes in probably when burning hard
summer cedar
Are these fighter jets?
carmine wraith
its an avro vulcan bomber, whatever that is
carmine wraith
that is a fat fucking plane
carmine wraith
lol the whole plane is a wing
summer cedar
I am no aerodynamics expert, but I'll speculate the broad wings were to give it speed while carrying its very heavy payloads.
carmine wraith
lift* but yea
summer cedar
Keeping in mind that this is 'old'.
carmine wraith
looks like it would have the radar cross section of a big fatass bomber ;D
summer cedar
Interesting to note that exactly THREE of these can still fly.
All the others have been mothballed.
carmine wraith
kinda makes sense why it would be in an airshow then, perhaps
summer cedar
Wait... details are important. They are in taxiable condition; does that mean they can 'fly'?
Or can they just move on to the runway and then die like an old coot?
Interesting 🤔 . The Avro had the first delta wing design, according to Google.
This is cool. I learnt two new things today. 😄
Thanks, Dismiss. 😄
carmine wraith
im imagining the algorithm one would use to correct for doppler effect by just eyeballing it ;D
summer cedar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLSEqmYbdhI - Dismiss, listen to the Avro howl!
First 10 seconds.
It's like the Space Wolves were fit with jet engines.
summer cedar
That jet had character, clearly.
carmine wraith
100% gonna use this sound in-game when the camera looks in close to one of the .. probably frigate sized flying airships while its burning
just watched some more of that video, apparently the vulcan was intended to deliver nukes
and they were huge, hanging off its wings
summer cedar
It could literally be a special ability - frighten the enemy with a patriotic howl of fervour.
unborn lotus
What patterns are you noticing?
soft night
https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-aw1-alan-wake-2-dancing-herald-of-darkness-gif-12038045612020009258
carmine wraith
wth is that, game awards musical intro show?
soft night
summer cedar
hbu
somewhat. Left my kidneys at Walmart.
What happened to Ponkiss?
Do you have some secret info as to why he left?
soft night
its alan wake 2 herald of the darkness musical in game awards version as there is musical video of it and inside the game version
proud jay
somewhat. Left my kidneys at Walmart.
What happened to Ponkiss?
did he leave
he must hate you
no other option
proud jay
Well, since Ponkiss left, is there anyone else here who uses Linux? Ubuntu maybe...
I have ubuntu on my laptop and server
I'm no expert though
summer cedar
Dang. I drove him away, huh?
proud jay
looks like it
brittle holly
not exactly a huge loss
summer cedar
🤷
proud jay
didn't give him enough bread
summer cedar
I have ubuntu on my laptop and server
Did you dual boot it with Windows? Or maybe Doors even?
proud jay
I did dual boot a long time ago
on my laptop I just yolo installed
I literally bought it and first thing I did was yeet windows
my server is self built, so it never had windows
summer cedar
Did it screw anything up, other than your personality? 😄
proud jay
not really
summer cedar
Good, good.
proud jay
if you wanna be extra safe you could also try it out in a VM though
but dual boot should be fine too tbh
especially for stuff like ubuntu
summer cedar
Would you recommend 100GB or 200GB partition for the OS?
proud jay
can't really fuck much up without trying
proud jay
Would you recommend 100GB or 200GB partition for the OS?
I think I did like 124GB
but you can get away with less
summer cedar
Fine. I'll do 125GB then. +1.
proud jay
F in the chat
proud jay
all his messages are gone too?
summer cedar
No. The messages are there under Deleted User.
proud jay
oh
summer cedar
I wonder if he got assassinated.
@brittle holly 's cat looks like it might be into that kind of thing.
brittle holly
proud jay
raindust can hold off the cat by putting it in acid
soft night
summer cedar
Well, I recommend renaming Dogmeat in Fallout to Ponkimeat, in honour of Ponkiss.
We can blame Janisku, if the proposal is adopted.
soft night
its all windus
proud jay
maybe you both suck
summer cedar
Dieter, Mafia 1 has a great lesson on how to get a girlfriend to marry you, preferrably your own.
Apparently, you get into a big shoot out with the border patrol and the local cops, shoot a lot of them, and then drive home.
The girlfriend sees your bloodied coat and then you say, "Marry me," and presto!
summer cedar
Indeed.
But, this should be pinned for prospective members to learn and use in the future.
Blue Man could use it right now, as a matter of fact.
proud jay
Did you dual boot it with Windows? Or maybe Doors even?
I've actually been considering trying out arch instead on my laptop
just for fun
and so I can say "I use arch btw"
proud jay
it's another distro
proud jay
it's like you have ubutuntu, fedora, mint, popos, gentoo,...
summer cedar
we're missing tommy, shiv, molotov, beretta, goldfoil....
proud jay
I've also been hearing about Zorin recently
which is strange cause it already exists since 2009
summer cedar
I wonder which one of them will transform into Doors and beat Windows once and for all.
proud jay
what Doors?
summer cedar
The great new OS that happens to be the fruit of my drug dream.
proud jay
are you making it?
summer cedar
God, no.
I'll supply encouragement.
That's sufficient in this depressing world, for a lot of folks.
unborn lotus
I wonder if he got assassinated.
He probably went back to prison like the last time
Everybody leaves then comes back again
summer cedar
Well, they gotta have some internet in that jail.
Lovely. 😻
Also, it's a great day to hunt down a rogue accountant.
I found Ponkiss.
Whiling away his time, drunk at a bar, sad that he left.
median wraith
Hows called that old UE3 game where you play as humans or dinosaurs/monsters that have hives and such and you have to kill them etc
Natural Selection, nevermind
cursive crypt
Man, this brings back memories for one very cool game.
It was dinosaurs and people. Top down, different tribes.
And you could level up your people, equip them and etc.
I loved how at the end you were able to turn a big dino into a steak with 2-3 hits.
dfuq was its name 🤔
fathom wadi
Natural Selection, nevermind
thats a source game isn't it? It was created as a mod for half life
broken sigil
Oh damn I just realized Spore got a spiritual successor called Elysian Eclipse
I loved Spore
median wraith
thats a source game isn't it? It was created as a mod for half life
I think 2 is made in Ue?
fathom wadi
@median wraith we were both wrong 😄
fathom wadi
Oh damn I just realized Spore got a spiritual successor called Elysian Eclipse
No word of a lie only a couple of weeks ago I was chatting with some other devs and I mentioned we should have a modern version of Spore.
median wraith
<@94317435246620672> we were both wrong 😄
Damm
dense storm
got one before they sold out
broken sigil
No word of a lie only a couple of weeks ago I was chatting with some other devs ...
it really was an awesome game, I played it as a kid
broken sigil
got one before they sold out
I'm waiting for it to arrive at my local retailer lol
Tho I'm debating waiting for x870 MBs for better memory support
fathom wadi
got one before they sold out
that's a pricey cpu jeez.
brittle holly
Didn’t they say the Zen 5 is problematic?
fathom wadi
yeah but it's getting microcoded out on the new models.
old ryzens out of support ain't getting any love tho
errant raven
Why the heck is a lot of sites and servers having issues
median wraith
got one before they sold out
The 5950 was hot but this one will be able to cook anything at its almost 90c in games
median wraith
Well tell us how it goes
This days the 5950x have issues in games
games usually not all cores are used and isn't high hz so
dense storm
its not really purely for gaming though
if i was buying for gaming would be ike 7800X3D or something
or maybe intel
but for workstation/programming/compiling everyday
the 9950x should be pretty good
broken sigil
The 5950 was hot but this one will be able to cook anything at its almost 90c in...
I never had really any issues with the 5950x, it pretty much always stayed below 70C when gaming, like 64C when compiling, ocassionally hitting 75 on heavy single thread workloads
cobalt ivy
What's this a screen of?
errant raven
The 5950 was hot but this one will be able to cook anything at its almost 90c in...
Yeah, I wouldn't expect 16 cores to be cool
regal pecan
At 90C you can't even use it as a steamer.
errant raven
90c it shouldn't even be operating
regal pecan
Pretty sure there was a GPU generation that could go up to 105C. Could get some decent sous vide out of that one.
rare sparrow
Turns out the answer is probably no since it's actually a macro as well, and tha...
Was just thinking, why even are these macros when they could be functions? What benefit is there to using a macro over a function when it doesn't need any macro specific functionality?
carmine wraith
Was just thinking, why even are these macros when they could be functions? What ...
i barely know the different between them in the first place, but .. i see one of those has a local variable, i would be somewhat surprised if functions can have their own local variables, but a macro i would think could, and it would be unique for the caller/blueprint using it
rare sparrow
Functions 100% can have local variables
Usually people don't even know macros can have them too since you need to use those specific local variable nodes
carmine wraith
so like, i dont actually know here, but i would think that a macro could have a local that is actually persistant
whereas a functions lives only during its execution
think of like, how youd implement the "Delay" node as a macro
rare sparrow
Function (impure) return values are cached, and I'm pretty sure they're still valid after a delay along the same execution chain
carmine wraith
that is not how the delay node works, but anyway i played around with a macro and its locals are still described as temporary in their tooltip
so probably just another thing that is not different, between the two
rare sparrow
Did you mean a delay inside the macro? Yeah, I understand that functions can't have them, but my question was specifically about the macros I screenshotted
carmine wraith
the only discernable difference between a macro and a function that i see so far, is that a function (within a function library) is in fact its own content, and if you change it and compile it (assuming its signature didn't change), the callers do not need to be compiled
whereas a macro (in a macro library) is copy pasted into the blueprint that uses it
and changing it, requires compiling all those using it
rare sparrow
That's why I'm thinking it would be better if it were a function since then it's not copy pasting that code every time it's used
Even though in this case it's only a couple nodes and wouldn't make much of a difference unless it's on some massive for loop or something
carmine wraith
in normal programming, like C++, this is the difference between calling a true function, and calling an inline function
there being an expense to calling a separate function, versus running the instructions in the one you are already in
in this case, who knows if there is a performance consideration or not
rare sparrow
I'm dumb, in a for loop it probably wouldn't make a difference since it's running the same code again, right? I mean if the macro is being copy pasted a bunch of times it then has to compile all those as if they were different compared to just calling the function each time, and that's where the differnece I'm thinking about comes in. Maybe not a performance cost, but a memory or compile time one? Something like that
brittle holly
I never had really any issues with the 5950x, it pretty much always stayed below...
64C when packaging in UE? Or just plain old code compile
broken sigil
64C when packaging in UE? Or just plain old code compile
regular compiling (all cores maxed out)
brittle holly
regular compiling (all cores maxed out)
What’s your temp when you package for 2.5h ? 😅
carmine wraith
I'm dumb, in a for loop it probably wouldn't make a difference since it's runnin...
Hm i suppose so, its almost the same tradeoff as C++ inlines/macros versus function calls actually. The tradeoff is compile time (and .exe size), versus runtime performance.
broken sigil
What’s your temp when you package for 2.5h ? 😅
not sure, haven't packaged in ages 😅
summer cedar
What's this a screen of?
It's from Mafia: Definitive Edition.
cobalt ivy
wasn't sure becuase there are such talented people here some times showing their wips
cursive crypt
got one before they sold out
I think imma wait for 26' with the backside power delivery + 2nm techs 🤔
The ddr5 issues be fixed by then too I hope.
I hate upgrading the whole PC in general.
cursive crypt
What's that
Jurassic War
summer cedar
I've noticed lately that there's a Windows Widgets process in Win 11 that seems to be consuming more CPU.
It's connected to the widgets that you can access from the taskbar, you know - for news and stuff.
Killing that process is fine. If you try to access widgets later, it just takes a bit longer to load than usual.
graceful sequoia
unacceptable, news needs to be timely, it's in the name
hollow dawn
when you make sarcastic suggestions how to fix the stinky manhole to the council, and they accept it as the most reasonable, and use rubber sink plugs to seal the thing...
effort +1
shenaniganism +5
still smells like shit all around thou, but good try,
dont worry using the road works that are happening right next to it to fix the shit, just rip it all open again afterwards...
soft night
cursive crypt
when you make sarcastic suggestions how to fix the stinky manhole to the council...
Well, here, nobody would care about it to begin with 🤷♂️
graceful sequoia
when you make sarcastic suggestions how to fix the stinky manhole to the council...
stinky manhole? usually a shower works
white oxide
oh look, my internet is on fire:
hollow dawn
Well, here, nobody would care about it to begin with 🤷♂️
its stinking since 2016 and the first round of road works when they buildt it XD
hollow dawn
oh look, my internet is on fire:
the internet belongs to everyone!
white oxide
supposed to be a DSL pedestal
hollow dawn
https://tenor.com/view/getting-inside-the-manhole-leonardo-michelangelo-raphael-...
you mean... maybe its not the council, but a turtles sign to mark the entrance to the secret rat sensei's lair?
😮
hollow dawn
supposed to be a DSL pedestal
why do you run a dsl router it in the woods thou?
graceful sequoia
also thats one too many thous
hollow dawn
oh thats the actual mainline O.o fuck lol
i thought your router just caught fire and somehow ended up in the woods... still burning...
summer cedar
oh look, my internet is on fire:
I thought this was a video game screenshot.
white oxide
i thought your router just caught fire and somehow ended up in the woods... stil...
no this is the set of wires on the side of the road
my internet wire goes from this box to my house
hollow dawn
well, that sucks much
white oxide
maybe they will turn on the fiber line
graceful sequoia
i thought your router just caught fire and somehow ended up in the woods... stil...
white oxide
that black box next to it is fiber
its been there for almost 3 years now
it has GB range fiber in it
we cant buy access currently
hollow dawn
lol ye... infrastructure works... see my manhole cover XD
hollow dawn
we wanted fiber too, cus telcompany offers it here atm, council started roadworks, neighbourhood asks for it, council goes "nah, maybe later" ...after the roadworks... so we can do roadworks again, thats our job
but so far nothing caught fire due to it... we had a geysir thou for half a day when they hit a water pipe...
taller than the 4 storey buildings around XD was kinda cool
summer cedar
@median wraith Check #hardware message
soft night
we got fiber now second fiber too seems build
graceful sequoia
i have 5 gbps fiber and a backup cable ISP 😄
summer cedar
we got fiber now second fiber too seems build
Switch to brain chip internet. It's totally wireless.
Saves electricity, too. Well, at least the kind your pay for.
soft night
windus would you get those neurallink things?
summer cedar
yes
assuming safety studies are published, hardware replacements are available, software updates don't require much plugging in, etc. etc.
Also, it needs to look sexy.
graceful sequoia
well just as the teslas will one day form a network of auto-taxis, so too will the neuralink
soft night
graceful sequoia
you too can be driven by someone who rented you from an app
summer cedar
😄
soft night
some say you get rented by Gronk ai for it services
summer cedar
https://neuralink.com
The cool thing was how the patient basically said he's faster than dudes using their hands, while playing games. He compared himself to an aimbot. 😄
summer cedar
some say you get rented by Gronk ai for it services
But only one person has it now, though. 😛
So 'some' are probably Z'anon.
median wraith
I never had really any issues with the 5950x, it pretty much always stayed below...
Well on performance is another topic, say Hunt etc
median wraith
<@94317435246620672> Check https://discord.com/channels/187217643009212416/82182...
Nice tower
summer cedar
Nice tower
Thank you. I'll organise a mortal kombat tournament to see which silicon wafer can fight its way to the top and earn immortal electricity.
spark hornet
why cant i stream in vc
proud jay
type /stream
errant raven
Just ate the juiciest melon I ever ate
Barely any flavor tho, dont think it was ripe. Which is unfortunate, given the plant died.
proud jay
was it meth infused?
errant raven
No, meth is dry dumbfuck
proud jay
why are you fucking meth?
errant raven
My sungold cherry tomato plant finally ran out of steam thanks to that hurricane knocking off weaker new growth
median wraith
okay finally got all classes working, dammit
@proud jay the main reason that's taking me more to release things its C++ not gonna lie xd
My idea 4 years ago was to have a decent base framework, is there but something needs to be updated or changed always
in other hand is faster to create childs etc
But unsure how fast is this now tbh
pearl elk
in other hand is faster to create childs etc
Oh so you finally found a lucky lady 😛
proud jay
no no, he just said he's using his hand
cursive crypt
Churros!
median wraith
Tim goes Sweeden to get spanish food, still waiting the visit to Spain
proud jay
that's not swedish lol
pearl basin
Anyone have any UE5 compilation benchmarks using the 9950x? I'm still running my 5950x, and based on what I'm seeing I'm not very tempted to upgrade...
median wraith
I'm on 5950 still
There is a site that post compiling benchmarks but idk if they did yet
celest musk
i wouldn't even consider a 16 core again
median wraith
Why?
cursive crypt
Maybe because it is for plebs only 🤔
summer cedar
This reminds me that I'll probably have to shell out some moolah for Process Lasso.
celest musk
visual studio is adapting to unreals >100% values
fleet tangle
i wouldn't even consider a 16 core again
So you'd go for what instead?
fleet tangle
I guess 16 is a bit too much for basically everything a normal person does.
Even 8 is too much for the average person tbh.
celest musk
yea when i bought the 5950x i was on ue5-main branch and compiled multiple times a week, but nowadays it's more like once a month
fleet tangle
Even a developer, unless you're compiling all day, you don't need more than that.
summer cedar
But, you must prepare for your brain chip multitasking needs.
Everyone knows your average low-IQ person's brainchip will require 8 physical processors dedicated for peeing and cooking, and watching TV.
celest musk
i made a bunch of supper inefficient editor tools tho, which still profit from 16 cores 😄
queen isle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Manifest i just learned the democrazy manifest meme guy passed away recently
summer cedar
Actually, based on what I've read, using Process Lasso to dedicate certain cores to certain applications - particularly with Intel CPUs - lets you take better advantage of all those extra cores.
It also lets you get rid of unnecessary CPU usage.
pearl basin
i wouldn't even consider a 16 core again
Really? Just the price or the single core perf?
summer cedar
I say Process Lasso, but basically ANY Task Manager CPU Affinity control software.
celest musk
Really? Just the price or the single core perf?
both i guess
and depends on what i do with the computer
currently the 5950x is still fine 🙂
summer cedar
Yep, unless you have any particular need for extra cores - assuming you have six pairs of hands to use them all for different stuff - you don't really need all that many.
But, I do wish I had extra pairs of hands - and the sensory capability to use them all. 😄
pearl elk
I think Id buy an Apple chip if I wanted benchmark scores
summer cedar
Meh, screw benchmark. Give me stability and very fast speeds, that's enough.
I am not much of an enthusiast, old dottard that I am.
That's why I got the 7800x3D, instead of the 9999923sadcasX5D.
pearl basin
I built my last PC using the thermaltake open chassis, and I love that thing
No more intake, exhaust fans, looks awesome
summer cedar
@pearl basin post a pic.
cursive crypt
currently the 5950x is still fine 🙂
I'm happy enuf myself with it too. Will upgrade in 2+ years, as I expect some sweet hw to come.
pearl basin
<@184157389396639746> post a pic.
pearl basin
It's a pain in the ass to build the thing, but once it's built, very easy to get in and access stuff
pearl basin
4090
summer cedar
🤔 I thought it'd be a big ass brick.
pearl basin
Well, it's a big ass case lol
summer cedar
It's a full tower, right?
summer cedar
Cool.
pearl basin
Still has space for tons of HDDs, but I have 4 NVME drives now
summer cedar
I posted my super cool Fractal in #hardware message.
I got myself an MSI 4TB Nvme drive. I don't think I'll need any more than that for now.
I WILL get another drive for dev work though. I don't want to run the TBW out on the nvme.
celest musk
did anyone watch the C++ vs BP stream yesterday?
love how it started with how nice live coding is and then he got to restart the editor like 3-4 times because he forgot some UPROPERTY/UCLASS specifiers 😄
cursive crypt
Haven't watched their streams in ages? Wasn't like bp vs cpp being covered tens of times already? Is there something new?
median wraith
love how it started with how nice live coding is and then he got to restart the ...
Live coding wasn't even working the last time I think
celest musk
the stream was chaotic to be fair xD
cursive crypt
It is called Live Coding, because you code On Live.
celest musk
he wanted to show the performance difference especially for loops
and end of stream he tries to profile it, and there was pretty much no difference
because the whole loop actually happened in BP, and only little bit of simple math was executed in C++
so the main bottleneck of BP was still in the BP and in the "C++" implementation...
cursive crypt
Damn, that was real improvisation. He rolled 0 with that showcase.
celest musk
it could've been a good example i guess, if executed right
pearl elk
put a delay in the loop 😛
celest musk
that would have been gold, imagine he did everything right with the C++ implementation and then he puts a delay in the BP loop and it shows up faster on the profiler 😄
sour shuttle
fathom wadi
I got into that beta but my steam email is a yahoo one so I never saw it until I needed a steam code to login 😄 Because who uses Yahoo mail? (sulks and points at himself for keeping his first email active)
median wraith
They made it for console users basically
Plus they lied as said the new update will don't add any exra PC cost
but turns out my friends with a 1060GTX get a drop from 120FPS to 50FPS
using the new FSR2 get back to 100FPS but still isn't the same without even using it
silk lily
median wraith
ohhh that's the valve thing
summer cedar
@median wraith Salieri may have gone to jail, but he got his revenge in the end.
It's a pity Tommy had to sleep with the fishes.
median wraith
wait what
summer cedar
Mafia, bro. You said you loved Mafia 1.
median wraith
ohhhh
summer cedar
I loved the story. Every bit of it was connected and didn't have any filler.
I hated the tragic ending, of course, but that's expect of 'the life'.
queen isle
Why talk about lame lock when you can install epic game store on mobile?
The file is literally called fortnite launcher lol
summer cedar
It's too epic.
sour shuttle
ohhh that's the valve thing
still waiting for my time zone to get active matchmaking to test it out
cursive crypt
Isnt that multiplayer only?
median wraith
Isnt that multiplayer only?
yes
used to have a small singleplayer trials but just removed it
median wraith
what kind of singleplayer mode you would like there ? Like the same but pve ? @cursive crypt
cursive crypt
Yeah, I prefer to chill. Human players bring too much chaos.
fleet tangle
There is a practice mode.
median wraith
There is a practice mode.
no, there is just a shooting range
fleet tangle
No there's definitely a practice mode...
median wraith
There is a tutorial & Shooting Range
fleet tangle
Tutorial/practice mode, same difference!
You can get onto the map, shoot some bosses and zombies.
fleet tangle
Try the advanced one at least!
median wraith
Yeah did both at once
and there are no enemies but the enviorment ones and the first part is all guided
slow lion
guys sorry for that im gona yap rn but is it wrong to hate some stereotype and people that fit to it ?
i mean im not rasist or smth
idc if u blue green yelow or purple
lethal seal
guys sorry for that im gona yap rn but is it wrong to hate some stereotype and p...
It"s alr bro
lethal seal
yeah ikr, not everyone can like u and u cant like everyone
slow lion
like its the same about pedos
lethal seal
its alr as long as u dont cuss out people
lethal seal
like its the same about pedos
kill them
lethal seal
LoL, I share this poor laptop with my mother
slow lion
guys sorry for that im gona yap rn but is it wrong to hate some stereotype and p...
what do u think daekesh
slow lion
LoL, I share this poor laptop with my mother
bros is with jesus wich is another W
witch ?
lethal seal
which
slow lion
idk im not eglish
lethal seal
I gotchu bro
fleet tangle
Hating people is just something people do. If you're gonna hate someone, at least do it because of them, not your perception of them.
lethal seal
idk im not eglish
me neither
slow lion
Hating people is just something people do. If you're gonna hate someone, at leas...
i mean i hate pedos cuz what they do , the same way i hate black guys that steals and kils
lethal seal
I get what you are saying now
fleet tangle
I was gonna say, why is that limited to black guys who steal and kill? That seems kinda racist.
lethal seal
kek xd
slow lion
u dont have to hate a certain stereotype for that
cuz i got banned for saying joke about black guys and even tho i said ´´i dont hate all black people´´ i got banned on 2 servers
slow lion
I was gonna say, why is that limited to black guys who steal and kill? That seem...
nah its for all people
same
lethal seal
cuz i got banned for saying joke about black guys and even tho i said ´´i dont h...
well if u make it sound racist
fleet tangle
Maybe you should stop being racist? Or if your beliefs are so ingrained that you're unable to grow, at least keep the racism out of areas it's not welcome?
slow lion
Maybe you should stop being racist? Or if your beliefs are so ingrained that you...
i mean they overdoing it lil to much
fleet tangle
<@&213101288538374145> Just idk what
slow lion
and it was chase game
and i wrote if it was stealing , then it was a black guy (i dont hate all black only the fiting stereotype ones)
lethal seal
bruh
slow lion
and i wrote if it was stealing , then it was a black guy (i dont hate all black ...
only joke
lethal seal
jokes can be racist
slow lion
yeah i mean there was a black guy and he didnt care
slow lion
Its 3 am and Im talking to randoms about stereotypes
XD im sorry idk
slow lion
Im off guys, b bye
gn
pearl elk
Maybe you should stop being racist? Or if your beliefs are so ingrained that you...
what in the... did guy just pretend to be 2 people to rant about racist stuff 😛
lethal seal
Yeah, he controlled my brain up until now 😂
pearl elk
thats how the racist mind worm works
lethal seal
I think he just makes racist jokes and doesn't realise
I can't sleep I've been workin on a horror game up until 2 am
pearl elk
Which leads me into this movie I was watching called The Subtle Art of Not Giving A F&*#... He was talking about a Japanese soldier who refused to admit the war was over. They plastered the whole place in flyers twice, once US to say the war was over and the second was the Japanese and he thought they were both fake news
so he continues to wage war in the Philippines till 30 years later when a hippie decides to go into the jungle and tell him to chill out
pearl elk
not that fast, but fast enough 😛
pearl elk
I have to give my keyboard some credit
Roccat Vulcan 121 Aimo, has awesome not so clacky keys with a really shallow movement depth and anti ghosting
lethal seal
Well I have to give my laptop some applause for doing such a good job with only 7.9 gigs of ram
||I am going insane woth this device||
pearl elk
lol wow, do you have to use Edge to conserve memory?
lethal seal
Wdym?
pearl elk
I find laptops with not much RAM run Edge better than Chrome since Windows has reserved RAM for it
lethal seal
I like firefox coz it's chill
pearl elk
between my two browsers I think Im using 7.9GB of RAM 😛
lethal seal
Fun fact
I have an old laptop with 1.7 gigs of ram
So I opened 100 tabs of firefox and bro was alr
pearl elk
Im thinkin about either 96 or 128 for my next build 😛
unreal ether
I really should install the 64GB kit that's sat next to me lol
lethal seal
I'm gonna visit freeRAM.com
😀
pearl elk
For those few times when RAM usage bloats right out, I just dont use paging anymore so I gotta make sure to have alittle overhead
lethal seal
With my indie games, I think I'm good with 8
pearl elk
I could get a dedicated paging SSD I suppose
graceful sequoia
i have 64GB right now, and i have a 512GB page file on an SSD 😒 -- ill be aiming for 512GB RAM in my next upgrade
some HLOD builds require that much
dense storm
512gb?
graceful sequoia
though its incredibly arguable that unreal is just insane and it shouldnt be needed
dense storm
I've never seen hold builds usr that much
graceful sequoia
dense storm
Hlod
graceful sequoia
its landscape at 16km X 16km
its fairly dumb
of course to be fair unreal was really just incredibly stupid about the LOD it would select in 5.3 and earlier
and in 5.4, you can tell it to use a specific LOD which helps a great deal: right now i can build HLODs for about 48km2 WP map in about 18m
dense storm
I mean that sounds like either a bug or bad design
graceful sequoia
with only about 50-60GB of RAM and my 10GB 3080 is sufficient
graceful sequoia
I mean that sounds like either a bug or bad design
its a bug
well, sort of
nonetheless, my policy is that if i have a single case of hitting 100% RAM, i need more
graceful sequoia
and VMs and WSL and all of that mean that I actually do hit out of RAM sometimes
plus i dont upgrade that often, ive had 64GB for a few years
pearl elk
128gb dimms
dense storm
As long as your pairing with a thread ripper
Surely that load can be split across machines
graceful sequoia
(considers deeply) -- mayyybe. I've been on the Intel train but man those threadrippers are awesome. pricey AF, but awesome
graceful sequoia
Surely that load can be split across machines
I don't have multiple machines
graceful sequoia
though tbf since this will be a complete core upgrade i probably should keep this one around and build a new one from scratch
dense storm
Not just the cpu but the mobo and ram
graceful sequoia
yeah
dense storm
I just got a 9950x 128gb ddr5 6000 ram
graceful sequoia
i have threatened my partner that i was going to install horde on their machine
lol
its not like they are using it half the time anyway
but horde doesnt yet do "spare compute" mode last i checked
dense storm
Spare compute mode ?
graceful sequoia
yeah, meaning it tries to only use the extra compute/GPU thats not in use by a user
dense storm
Oh
graceful sequoia
in the inside unreal covering horde they talked about it, but said its coming later
graceful sequoia
heh
graceful sequoia
it is very true that with some careful design in how you put together HLODs, you can manage a lot with very little
the peak time for my HLODs (at least the runs that completed when not out of RAM) was about 3 hours- and that was because i had foliage fed into merged mesh. its not really needed though, you can get by with just using an instanced layer on that: after all, the cells that are unloaded are the big win for performance, if the foliage is using nanite, the instancing layer is more or less just getting that foliage visible without requiring the corresponding foliage actor to be loaded
dense storm
I assume you have big open worlds
graceful sequoia
so i just removed the merge on the end, and its 18m now, and the foliage looks great, performs pretty well so far
yes, open world
dense storm
Our maps are big but not that big
graceful sequoia
48km2 land mass, about 122km2 total with some ocean and tiny island stuff
dense storm
Why so big ?
graceful sequoia
insanity probably 🙂
its just big enough to be insane for a solo dev, and ive definitely had my doubts, but so far its going well
with level instancing, PCGs, etc you can do a hell of a lot
it helps that its a fantasy RPG with lots of wide open wilderness spaces
its not tightly packed dense city sample stuff
pearl elk
Im so glad my project isnt open world, just generating star systems 😛
graceful sequoia
honestly the biggest challenge so far has been performance, but with some discipline and a heap of learning, ive brought it (in game) from sub 10fps to about 50-60fps on Epic quality on a 3080. More work to be done, but its much better now.
WorldPartition is in no way a silver bullet
This is entirely a hobby/passion project for me too- I make the bucks in my day job which has nothing to do with unreal so /shrug
pearl elk
trying to make the unreal engine usage pay for itself is the real trick
graceful sequoia
pay for itself? you mean the license fees?
pearl elk
just the upkeep, power, food, equipment etc
I too have a day job which funds my game dev hobby
graceful sequoia
oh, yeah I suppose
for me as a pure dev, not a 3d artist, the costs that i need to keep in check is assets 🙂
at least with hardware and the like it benefits my other activities
pearl elk
Yeah I know that feeling, not buying every asset pack on the market just because they might come in handy
I just dont see a time for me quitting my day job even after I launch my game, it wouldnt be until I know its going to profit I could consider it as break even still leaves me flat
graceful sequoia
yeah
pearl elk
Then I have to consider future projects too, if I get lucky and make a profit what about the next one or two projects, can I absorb any potential losses... The dev stuff is so much more interesting and enjoyable to me
graceful sequoia
speaking of assets, the free stuff this month is a bit meh
pearl elk
but Epic Game Store is on mobile yaaay
wonder how many of those games actually work on mobile 😛
dense storm
Hmm
Now to.fight the monopoly of app stores not allowing other app stores
EpicAppleDroid OS
Coming to a smartphone near you
graceful sequoia
EpicAppleDroid OS
yeah I mean look at windows, they support other stores and now my computer is running EpicSteamWindows!
why can't valve just cease to exist and why don't we all put our games on windows store
pearl elk
thats why I run SteamOS on my PC, I dont need any other store
rare sparrow
The windows store is amazing, I love having to download a 60+ GB game five times just to get it to install correctly
(yes, that actually happened to me)
pearl elk
This is why you should use Games for Xbox Windows instead
celest musk
@graceful sequoia
that's what i complained about here before
one asset pack where the scale is completely off for everything
rare sparrow
That was also back when I had 6Mbps Internet
celest musk
then that kind of BP logic on the right...
celest musk
and there was probably more to complain about, just didn't make a list 😄
rare sparrow
Where's that from?
celest musk
some Laertes asset pack
advertised as AAA assets
that's AAAAAAAAAAAA asset with all the add nodes
this is btw. the "fixed" logic instead of the BS they made
pearl elk
thats some AAAA game code right there
graceful sequoia
makes me want to look closer at the bundle stuff
if i spot any horror shows I'll tag you @celest musk for your entertainment
celest musk
i can just open a random one from any of their packs and i'm sure i'm gonna find something to nut pick 😄
graceful sequoia
I bet that thing above would look horrifying without electric nodes too
pearl elk
we need a tick mark for any item thats been checked properly by a human
celest musk
i kind of have that
you can slap custom asset user data on meshes, etc.
also nice to keep track of licenses etc.
celest musk
you expand the UAssetUserData class and add your own variables
the you can add it to a bunch of asset types and fill out the data
and make editor tools to generate lists, etc. based on that data
graceful sequoia
graceful sequoia
why don't they just build in an editor for this
graceful sequoia
is there a doc page for the system you're using?
I swear something happened to unreal's SEO recently
I literally wanted to do this a few weeks ago but found nothing
celest musk
yea, they moved all their docs to their new portal, and now it's bricked on google
hmm, maybe this is some starter? https://github.com/MilkyEngineer/AssetUserDataForBlueprints
it's pretty simple and self explaining actually
just an Array with object instances of that class which you can derive from
it doesn't do anything on it's own other than containing the data, but you could also add logic to them
graceful sequoia
having 2 half systems to do the same thing is so epic
nah, i mean literally its like epic set their robots.txt to disallow google
graceful sequoia
yeah i just checked, its fine
i have to include -python or else you get the most annoying search results you have ever seen
graceful sequoia
every search has python docs at the top for some god awful reason
celest musk
does that open for you?
graceful sequoia
nah just spins
graceful sequoia
i mean sitemap shouldnt break it this bad... i think
celest musk
depends, if the content isn't crawlable in any other way it might depend on it
graceful sequoia
well we could play six degrees of kevin bacon from this (indexed in google) to uassetuserdata https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/API/Runtime/LevelSequence/ULevelSequence
its 3
3 clicks from that page to uassetuserdata
i guess google just sucks really bad now
graceful sequoia
oh god
rare sparrow
broken sigil
Damn the production quality, this guy should at this point just make his own movie
https://youtu.be/hX0lhueeib8
soft night
like this quality? https://www.youtube.com/live/D6WDhJhsFEA?si=yrKWAT8jb1wxkiE_
surely there need to be some great metahuman shortfilms
what i know of watchDust its sci-fi focused
cursive crypt
How so, a live stream?
soft night
its vod now
cursive crypt
Vod? 🤔
cursive crypt
seems there is alter files too what is horror focused
Tomorrow we are going to watch the new Alien, on 4d cinema.
soft night
Ah, I see. But why on YT lol
well everyone there is submissionn form https://filmfreeway.com/alterdustsubmissions for short films
pearl elk
is 4d enough ds?
cursive crypt
Never enough 🤑
twilit lake
hey everyone, Does anyone know any other server that has freelance/contract job postings like this server does? It doesnt have to be specefically unreal engine related, it can be 3D, unity, software development related etc...
empty gull
@analog marten you should try squad armored combat, it just feels amazing, and its really hard 😄
analog marten
i tried it and its kinda shit, arma 3 was much better
squad was so bad, i literally deleted it from my library
and still using UE4 in 2024 doesnt help their case
median wraith
Well you can use UE4 fine on that game to be fair
analog marten
just because it works doesnt mean its a smart idea though
empty gull
squad was so bad, i literally deleted it from my library
ooof
well, arma has perfomance issues, and its very choppy 🤷♂️
my negative review on arma xD
errant raven
@timber viper I'm over halfway done watching dragon ball z kai, I wanted to watch dbz but kai is the same just shorter. Didnt realize how much of the goofy stuff or witty remarks they cut out tho
Like maybe 40-60% of the funny remarks in teamfourstars abridged version are actually in Z too
cursive crypt
Dragon Ball++
median wraith
Damm the 8GB of VRAM are gone in modern games
cursive crypt
Sad, but true. 2/3 of modern games are graphics only.
median wraith
the textures man, also playing at 1440p with DLSS
but is the reason on the random fps drops
cursive crypt
how much fps? 1440p with dlss, your gpu must be kinda overworked.
cursive crypt
Ah, that good then.
cursive crypt
I'm happy with anything over 60fps and even 30 for rpgs
median wraith
I feel like the new Cryengine have some memory issue
they moved to DX12 personally never had a game performing better on DX12 than DX11 lol
cursive crypt
I can't use dx12 at all on ue5 it crashes the gpu, lol
median wraith
isn't actually forced on last versions ?
cursive crypt
Not yet, but I have seen they worked on it up to 5.3, I haven't yet tried 5.4
Before it was not even supporting the latest shading models.
virtual shadows and stuff e.g. or something along the lines, I already forgot
errant raven
Damm the 8GB of VRAM are gone in modern games
Yeah, nobody cares about what games are for anymore. Only if it looks good.
Then they bitch at nvidia, instead of the fucks making games that require a min of 12GB vram just to play a game on min settings with dlss/amds version on
median wraith
wondering myself
why the GPU uses 1.5GB of VRAM when you are on desktop doing nothing
discord takes 0.5gb lol
cursive crypt
Because front end guys may know about ui/ux but have no idea about resources and systems.
I'm unsure discord even needs gpu acceleration.
The hardware gets bigger, but lazy ass tools, code and devs get even bigger.
It does really takes .5gb of vram, and 1.3gb of ram
median wraith
At the end of the day I spend x5 time more doing things that dont take as much memory
timer optimize them a bit, don't think anyone notices but
pearl elk
you can turn off gpu rendering for discord
errant raven
Yeah, look at your cpu usage for steam, with no games running.
Gotta turn that setting off that plays animated profile pics and shit
fathom wadi
honestly, unless I'm rendering or using PCG tools, my GPU vram doesn't get filled. So half a gb doesn't sound bad per se.
pale scarab
damm man some models from some epic packs don't have materials 😦
hmmm just wondering, are you a paramore fan by any chance?
median wraith
hmmm just wondering, are you a paramore fan by any chance?
What? Unsure what you mean?
median wraith
Yeah, look at your cpu usage for steam, with no games running.
Well cpu to me isnt an issue so
summer cedar
@median wraith My 35" curved MSI monitor arrived today. 😄
I haven't unboxed it yet. I didn't want to leave it in the open. The motherboard will arrive tomorrow and thereafter, I have to just wait for the CPU air cooler to arrive.
empty dune
hmmm just wondering, are you a paramore fan by any chance?
are you calling him a monster? 🤣 (Jk)
soft night
lethal seal
median wraith
Question here, whats usually you like the most the pixel art mixed with modern rendering techs or the full retro ?
thick oracle
my past few projects have been using the pixel art mixed with modern(ish) rendering tech, but i'm fine with both
graceful sequoia
i like unique combinations of the two -- fez comes to mind as a very cool blend of the two
median wraith
Twitter
errant raven
Well cpu to me isnt an issue so
It takes up quite a bit of ram too
pale scarab
https://x.com/GamerInVoid/status/1824871863060967808 damm
omg
i must get that mod
but.. my cpu is staring at me right now 😨
cursive crypt
Question here, whats usually you like the most the pixel art mixed with modern r...
I think, I'm for more modern look. If that means having bigger resolution and wider color palette which makes the product look better.
tulip orbit
Question here, whats usually you like the most the pixel art mixed with modern r...
I think it depends on the artist and the art. I've seen both look good, not exactly sure what you mean with "mixed with modern rendering tech" but I'm sure i've seen good and bad examples of both
a good pixel artist can do wonders, however if I tried to do the same thing, it'd look like crap
summer cedar
Basically this ^.
I am even thinking of making one of my games with just basic materials, without textures. It all depends on how your game will flow and whether or not its aesthetics will blend with that flow.
If it works, use it. 😄
And most importantly, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
tulip orbit
so what you're saying is, my game isnt "broken" and I should call it finished and ship it?
😄
boots up NMS
summer cedar
As long as you get every friend and acquaintance to buy ten copies and sell them to their friends, thus creating a chain marketing ponzi scheme.
Shut down NMS NAOWWW!!!!
tulip orbit
no.
summer cedar
now!
SOTSE 2 looks nice. I am watching it on Splattercat's channel.
@white oxide I've been meaning to ask. How's Process Lasso working out for you? Which settings are you using in it?
median wraith
I think, I'm for more modern look. If that means having bigger resolution and wi...
Yeah, but let me look for examples
This project is a pain of mixing given the type of game
median wraith
a good pixel artist can do wonders, however if I tried to do the same thing, it...
totally true
My first aproach was to get old models for mobile or so and clamp the textures
the polycount reduction, don't give the old retro style sadly
@tulip orbit @cursive crypt by modern graphics mixed with retro I mean something like Graven probably (but without AA (TAA))
This game is too colorful
In the other hand you have HROT that have a more linear color palette and everything is more simplistic and light more retro etc
and maybe by the more retro version I mean this:
Twitter
No bloom, no PP at all, no modern effects just old tech alike
brittle holly
Shit basically
queen isle
you can put background in your blueprint?
median wraith
Shit basically
well many people like it
median wraith
you can put background in your blueprint?
yes on the editor settings
summer cedar
No bloom, no PP at all, no modern effects just old tech alike
Like I mentioned earlier, if you can make it work, you can make it work.
For example, I had mentioned a black and white game here that adults shouldn't play without children's supervision.
The developer used black, white, and red - only those three colours and nothing else.
He achieved high octane gameplay with incredible adrenaline rushes with absolutely ZERO fancy graphics.
celest musk
well...
summer cedar
There was also a nice RPG game that came out I think two years ago.
That one started with black and white and introduced colour gradually, with each level.
So, as the player goes forward, he unlocks graphical quality.
celest musk
there's a movie, Sin City which's name i forgot, which does the same
median wraith
My biggest issue is that maybe won't fit with the game due the gameplay, thats the whole sad part
celest musk
so that's a kind of popular noir effect
summer cedar
My biggest issue is that maybe won't fit with the game due the gameplay, thats t...
That's essentially what we said. You have to see if it fits with the flow of your game.
Only you can decide that. We might be able to help if we could see some in-game action.
median wraith
Issue is there is a lot of shovelware that this days will look the same and just pass away in the store
if you are using modern default graphics TM
summer cedar
Your game's success will ultimately come down to how you market it.
median wraith
Well that's true
summer cedar
As for longevity, yes, that'd depend on how well everything in it gels with each other.
But, you shouldn't care about longevity. Just get everyone's money in the initial rush of sales.
Then, run off to your own Hawaiian island.
Just avoid the island where the US military has been dumping live munitions for four decades or so.
On a serious note, minimalism does work as long as you have a solid idea for your game and don't keep changing it through the project. 🙂
median wraith
ah I don't talk about how long it last, but the first visual impact
Say I can do good light etc, but I have no human power todo all assets, so the only I think I use from market etc are level assets, but I do my levels and all the gameplay, even engine changes
nobody will see that at first, but the marketplace assets
so that's why on my opinion is an issue
summer cedar
You yourself said that you are good at lighting.
Use that expertise to make the marketplace assets look unique.
celest musk
you can make a good game with marketplace assets tho
summer cedar
Well placed lights can change the look of anything.
summer cedar
What people hate is generic looking crap.
With the power of your lights, make your game shine! 😄
median wraith
Yeah for example Level Zero: Extraction have a lot of marketplace assets, but is doing well on sales
summer cedar
Well, there you go.
median wraith
but damm that's a whole team making multiplayer and shit
celest musk
i wouldn't do MP as solo dev
summer cedar
I'd rather focus on your project. Forget what others are doing and make yours work... and fun.
celest musk
unless your game is very simple
median wraith
no this isn't multiplayer and neither complex mechanics
it goes to the basics as I invested too much in core changes for no real reason
but multiplayer isn't hard just to have a basic interaction*
summer cedar
it goes to the basics as I invested too much in core changes for no real reason
Ah, that habit of changing shit every now and then needs to be brought under control.
median wraith
say puzzles etc
celest musk
well, you learned from that, at least i hope so 😄
summer cedar
It's one of the biggest problems for devs.
I want to tweak this one little thing here and...... no, let's change the whole house.
median wraith
well, you learned from that, at least i hope so 😄
true
median wraith
Ah, that habit of changing shit every now and then needs to be brought under con...
There used a time when I wanted to have all EXACTLY as I wanted, then I learned lol
but well I wanted a basic framework and now I got it
celest musk
to this day, i went with pretty much zero engine changes, on one hand it's tempting sometimes, on the other hand i don't want to carry all that over each engine update
median wraith
that's all I wanted in C++
summer cedar
Have you played Angry Foot, @median wraith ?
median wraith
nope, let me search
summer cedar
It's a simple game from Devolver Digital that's awesome fun.
By simple, I mean they focused on good lighting and simple everything else.
Also, kicking other people in the nuts has always been fun.
median wraith
maybe go back to the normal, because something I found along the road is
if you try to reduce the poly from meshes will end fucked
no good retro looking at all in many cases will be worst experience
summer cedar
What is the standard poly count these days?
summer cedar
😄