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celest musk
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why are all FE cards on nvidia.com sold out and a ton of businesses sale FE cards on ebay

pearl elk
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do you get a free FE with every order of Taylor Swift tickets?

proud jay
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why would you want a free front end

pearl elk
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Flounders Edishion

pearl elk
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Im not buying an FE card until they come with little leather jackets

slim atlas
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hi

pearl elk
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hows the kid?

proud jay
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mostly non existent

pearl elk
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Ohhh youre her son ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

celest musk
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so it got an existencial crysis?

pearl elk
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Maximum Motherhood

slim atlas
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my kid is in third grade now โค๏ธ

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learning about critical race theory

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i am so proud sweat2

empty dune
pearl elk
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I hope the kid is a PC gamer, poor peasants

empty dune
celest musk
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founders edition card, the official nvidia cards

empty dune
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Did taylor swift buy nvidia? o_O

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Ohhhhh

pearl elk
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๐Ÿคฏ

empty dune
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I have a friend who got 4 tickets for the 2024 era tour. Cost her 5000 euro

celest musk
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so he got 4x 4080 + 4 tailor swift tickets?

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why would anyone pay $5k to see tailor swift, wtf is wrong with people

empty dune
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5k is a bit much, agreed. But, her songs are good (sometimes, she has a bunch of garbage albums though)

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And another bunch of really good albums

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Weird

celest musk
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i don't even listen to her for $0

empty dune
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I never asked if it was 5k per ticket or total ๐Ÿ‘€

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Spotify ๐Ÿ˜”

pearl elk
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lol talkin about Spotify getting aggressive with ads

empty dune
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You're gonna hit me now

I have both Spotify and youtube premium

river sable
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I have an adblocker and I don't use spotify

pearl elk
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Spotify family does the trick for all of us

river sable
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netflix has ads now I heard?

median wraith
river sable
pearl elk
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Spotify costs me less than my Google Drive, poor struggles of the indie Google

median wraith
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technically yes once you pay taxes for others Healthcare

limber jetty
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Spotify based

pearl elk
limber jetty
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Although they dont have everything

river sable
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my health insurance should pay for youtube premium because ads cause my blood pressure to rise ThinkFast

median wraith
river sable
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idk I've got an adblock

empty dune
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You guys aint seen nuffin

limber jetty
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I like Spotify

empty dune
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They don't sponsor me anymore ๐Ÿ˜”

pearl elk
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I dont like YT Music

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its lame you cant just power off the screen without paying

river sable
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you know that moment where you wrote a bunch of code to test something and then it starts working but you have to rewrite it for the actual use case but really don't want to start?

limber jetty
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I dunno Youtube Premium might be worth it for some, others dont bother with it just like Spotify

median wraith
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I won't get ever thr point of the people paying 5 different platforms monthly for the same kind of service

limber jetty
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Your money, your decisions ^^

limber jetty
celest musk
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see, i would actually pay youtube

pearl elk
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lol and trust Google search results are legit gg

celest musk
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if there wasn't like at least 50% piracy on there

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no way they use it to fund the real creators

median wraith
pearl elk
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Well these days I get dodgy ads in any button I press so I guess Im doomed

empty dune
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The one with the ||mini mass effect shock absorbers ||?

limber jetty
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People do have money

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Its their money management that is giving them the trouble

pearl elk
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The tax on cigarettes here is so high to cover the public health that you could afford to pay for all the subscriptions instead of smoking

limber jetty
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Yes

river sable
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I only donated around 700โ‚ฌ to twitch streamers this month

limber jetty
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Cigarettes are nothing more than luxury considering how much people spend on them without necessity

empty dune
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Okay seriously why do people buy twitch subs

pearl elk
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theyre looking for the next Pokimane, you can do it

empty dune
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I never got the appeal

river sable
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of cigarettes?

empty dune
pearl elk
empty dune
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Wow okay

limber jetty
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People buy famous Twitch thots their fart and hair pieces, what do you expect

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And hot tub water

pearl elk
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nuclear subs, pew pew

empty dune
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Damn Laura's arsenal is growing

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F16s, and now nuclear subs

pearl elk
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settings on twitch, nevah

empty dune
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There's a setting for that? Why is there a setting for that

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I dont understand twitch

pearl elk
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ok boomer

river sable
summer cedar
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Aggressive reconstruction, when you can't afford proper contractors.

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Over the walls, for valour, courage, and senselessness!

celest musk
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damn, i finished a game mechanic and now i'm lost with which can of worms i should touch next

river sable
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take the one with the tastiest worms inside

zinc matrix
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are there free enemies assets? simple enemies that can walk around, chase the player, patrol, snipe?

empty dune
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@celest musk You're the god

empty dune
zinc matrix
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_0VdAFg-OU I want to build something like this, a prototype level. I can either go for JK2 itself or... if I go for UE5 I'm going to need to learn how to make doors, buttons, one gun, enemies, all by myself.

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soft night
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empty dune
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Begun, the palwars have

unreal ether
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clickbait articles are clickbait articles

empty dune
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Ive been meaning to play palworld for so long now but i keep putting it off lol

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Im asian, brb buying a license for denuvo

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Wait, didn't ksp1 have a kernel level something in it?

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I remember not buying ksp1 because of that

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I bought it later but initially didn't because of that

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Wait, ill dig it up

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I saw it in a bunch of steam reviews

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Brb

zinc matrix
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at my current skill level I believe that making a prototype in JK2 is faster than learning the basics in UE5

empty dune
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Something called red shell

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It was a thing for about 4 years apparently

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2018-2022

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Buy mine, i already got rejected by paradox ๐Ÿ˜‚

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you can then complain about me wasting your money on YouTube premium and Spotify premium

empty dune
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How early is that

soft night
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so early

chrome gull
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I was considering buying Helldivers 2 but there were warnings for its rootkit level anti-cheat lol (on GMG)

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no thanks

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I didn't play valorant for the same reason

celest musk
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i'm glad i played PalWorld before they broke it on Linux

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because they mentioned to add third party anticheat...

timber viper
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i love this story

chrome gull
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I'm really lenient with my privacy but there's no way I'll allow root level access

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that too for a damn game's anti-cheat system

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fuck that

timber viper
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microsoft to blame there

chrome gull
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how?

delicate minnow
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hey guys, is there a simple way to move epic games launcher to a different drive? Or do I have to just reinstall it along with all games?

broken sigil
timber viper
broken sigil
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Yeah I'll just have to mess with it to figure out if I like it or not lol

celest musk
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well the whole issue with cheating isn't a windows issue tho

errant raven
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Based

celest musk
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i bet 99% of the current cheats are just exploiting the fact that the server accepts any claims that the client makes

errant raven
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People acting like apple invented augmented reality

chrome gull
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not really ig?

timber viper
broken sigil
celest musk
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but palworld isn't about aiming

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it's currently PVE only

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so it's more about griefing etc.

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which is all something that is should be server authoritative

broken sigil
# celest musk but palworld isn't about aiming

Yeah, I'm mainly talking about shooters which are plagued by (soft) aimbots, esps, and similar

There was a whole discussion about it recently here #programmer-hangout message (scroll down from there if you are interested)

The reality is that even something as invasive as Vanguard is very much exploitable

That in Palworld sounds like poor netcode then lol

unreal ether
blazing wolf
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Pity me, for I must now debug phpBB to try and figure out why a forum isn't working right.

broken sigil
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Lol

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Shouldn't probably post it here as it goes into details of cheating and how to do it

But yeah it's a lot more common than people realize

delicate minnow
chrome gull
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OMG TODD HOWARD REFERENCE AAAAA

timber viper
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appearently if you get your OS leaked several times and build your security systems on top of multiple tech debts you end up having your customers hacked each year

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I didnt say linux is safe or safer though

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its just microsoft doesnt help to make it better

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after vista they started to

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but it runs on same tech debt

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true but does it change the fact we're doomed to pay for decisions of MS made since win95

chrome gull
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what is this person's role? he preaches... christianity? how is that related to UE?

timber viper
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NT literally got leaked first lol

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OpenNT is a thing

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it got better after vista, anything before that was literally dark age

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xp was so cursed that you could get hacked by just having default email application installed

chrome gull
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ohhh right right he tries to get people to use UE?

broken sigil
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Yeah basically

chrome gull
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weird term lol

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gotcha tho

timber viper
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he "gains" people

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to Epic

chrome gull
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lmao

timber viper
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or he was

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he got fired lol

chrome gull
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ohhh

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welp

timber viper
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or laid off

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fired implies he was bad at his job

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epic couldnt afford him

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he was too good for metaverse

chrome gull
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i got what you meant dw

broken sigil
median wraith
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xd

timber viper
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except blender

median wraith
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Did you played Ready or Not yet? @broken sigil

broken sigil
slim atlas
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hi

outer sierra
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I'm planning to buy 3rd monitor for Level Editor.
Just for it. Without Content Browser, Outliner, Details panel or Place Actors.
To see levels in full screen
What do you think?

outer sierra
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2 monitors workings fine

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was it in 3 or more monitors?

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I'm using since 4.26 and never had problem with multi monitor issues

errant raven
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@empty dune is 40k: darktide any good?

summer cedar
# broken sigil

Most game devs have the blender origin story, not just for developing games but life itself.

errant raven
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I wish more studios would make high quality souls like games

limber jetty
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im thinking about getting 3 monitors next year but im not sure

open fog
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I fell asleep in afternoon and woke at 7pm ๐Ÿ˜ฆ that's the absolute worst

limber jetty
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because one of these will be 32 inch

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or i use one monitor with like 49 inches

full owl
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hi guys

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I have something pretty big in the works and don't know whichchannel here is the better one to engage people from

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there is not a metahuman channel for example

blazing wolf
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We're all just plain humans here

brittle holly
last matrix
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I met a human once

blazing wolf
river sable
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I made a brawl deck with Ashiok, Wicked Manipulator and it's so evil, I love it ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

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just wants some pets

slim atlas
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Hi

empty dune
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But the actual game is pretty fun

errant raven
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Neat another game to play after I finish lies of p

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Might even replay lies of p

empty dune
blazing wolf
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Someone actually paid money to build a launch a "reactionless drive" without bothering to prove it works first? That's some kind of optimism

empty dune
pearl elk
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clearly the project was sabotaged by the propellant sellers

empty dune
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big hydrogen is holding us back, wake UP SHEEPLE ||/s||

blazing wolf
empty dune
brittle holly
empty dune
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idk what rich people do

empty dune
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solve global food crisis? nah, buy twitter and rename it to X

brittle holly
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โ€œWhatโ€™s hunger?โ€ ๐Ÿ˜€

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Apparently Musk is trying to buy Disney now

empty dune
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not happening, the disney empire will rise

blazing wolf
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There was a time when I actually admired Musk. Oh how the mighty have fallen

empty dune
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i admired musk at one point too. i also didnt know shit about him back then and was young

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didnt help that every fucking media outlet called him savior of the human race

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star trek discovery even named him as one of the great people on "past earth"

empty dune
pearl elk
fathom wadi
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Not sure what Musk has done to deserve any hate tbh. Sure he's a troll, but so are all the people who hate on him. At least he is advancing technologies and doing something pro-active for future generations. More than I could say for most internet people ๐Ÿ˜„

blazing wolf
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I can't really voice my objections without getting into politics and human rights discussions, which I would rather not do on a game forum

empty dune
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oh wow

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f2p no man's sky is big

regal pecan
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free weekend

empty dune
regal pecan
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From 14:00 GMT, Thursday 15th Feb to 18:00 GMT, Monday 19th Feb, the entire Omega expedition will be open to everyone, entirely for free, even if you donโ€™t own No Manโ€™s Sky! This is the best time for players old and new to come together and explore the universe.

empty dune
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ah yeah i just saw that

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nvm

regal pecan
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Steam's interface calls it a trial instead of the game simply being free. First time I've seen that.

empty dune
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probably just a fancy name for AAA demos

pearl elk
fathom wadi
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did you know he refused his family money, took the money he earned and disowned them?

pearl elk
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It doesnt matter when your family has a status

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Prince Harry is still a Prince even if he's technically not

fathom wadi
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they had some status in south africa perhaps, but not in Canada where he moved to

pearl elk
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You think 56 billion is a fair wage?

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I can guarantee he is not the only person who added that wealth to Tesla. As a SpaceX customer though I know they are making far too much from Starlink to really consider a proper Mars mission let alone colonization, its nice double talk from Musk though as per usual

fathom wadi
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depends. Obviously not under normal circumstances but when you consider he wanted it so he could advance his space program many years ahead of what he would without it, I think the reason for it might balance out a bit considering it's for advancing the human space journey. He doesn't care about personal wealth to get new things. He already has all that and more.

pearl elk
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That money he lost in personal wealth could fund NASA for 3 years roughly, so why didnt he just give it up? Why waste 44 billion on Twitter when that coulda funded NASA for another 2 years... Why ask the US government for more subsidies for SpaceX continually when your personal wealth is perfectly capable of sustainable funding

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Im all for Occupying Mars, Musk changed

fathom wadi
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Time. We are all running out of it and he wants to see his fruits come to bear before he goes.

pearl elk
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Oh yes Elon is the worst at hitting his target dates, Im not sure he's ever hit one but he's the best business man on the planet by all accounts

rare sparrow
# regal pecan free weekend

I was gonna say, no way they make it free to play. No Man's Sky doesn't have any microtransactions. You buy the game and that it

fathom wadi
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i was tempted to play the new NMS expansion. I haven't played it since launch and it looks really good

fathom wadi
pearl elk
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I wish I was rich enough to have a social media addiction ๐Ÿ˜‰

fathom wadi
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I just want to be rich enough to buy my own home. In Iceland. Not near any volcanos tho.

fathom wadi
pearl elk
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I wouldnt mind a shack on Olympus Mons

fathom wadi
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it would suck tho if the oxygen generator broke down. I hear it's like a 6 month wait to get a repair guy up there.

pearl elk
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Internet sooo slow, takes 5 mins to buffer The Simpsons

fathom wadi
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speaking of starlink. I was pricing up internet connections when we moved in here and Starlink is an absolute rip off unless you live in the outback. It was like $100 a month for a fairly average connection speed. So I went with gigabit cable for 50/month

fathom wadi
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yeah but it takes an average of 230,000 years for an eruption. So I'll just move to one where it happened within the last 100,000 years or so :p

pearl elk
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the latency on NBN sattelite was over 500, now its regularly under 50. Not brilliant but a significant improvement

fathom wadi
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I could live with that tbh. Most of the time I'm getting 30-50 ping in games anyway on both fibre or cable. Haven't had a 20 ping since the early 2000s.

pearl elk
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only time I had under 20 was when I lived near the city in Perth, that was on a local TF2 server. Coast to coast here is not typically great

empty dune
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used to play mmos with 900+ ping

you guys get 20 ms ping?

fathom wadi
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ISDN used to have a good ping. But that was expensive for the time

regal pecan
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coast to coast in aus? what an odd phrase

regal pecan
empty dune
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My greatest claim to be not terrible at video games was that even with 900+ ms ping i had above 55% wr

regal pecan
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playing against you must have been rubber banding hell

empty dune
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It was rubber band hell for me as well

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Fun fact, India has better linkage to EU than to most asian countries

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So EU servers were the only ones playable back then

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The Asian servers were 1200+ ms

regal pecan
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Now I see why Steam is doing the trial thing for No Man's Sky. It's not a full free weekend, just the omega expedition.

fathom wadi
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free with xbox game pass if you have it.

pearl elk
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Its clearly a womans sky

empty dune
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Maybe non binary's ocean

pearl elk
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Id say so with all those colours

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Wasnt Star Citizen going to have a SP campaign

empty dune
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Yeah, its called squadron 42

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Its a separate game now

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Still in development

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As usual

pearl elk
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I wonder what Eve Vanguard will be like, not that I enjoy playing with other people

empty dune
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Eve is terrible for solo play

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Its mind numbingly boring

pearl elk
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Well this is an FPS set in the Eve universe so maybe it'll be more interesting. Does say solo play here hmm, thats probably just solo queues

empty dune
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Fps in eve universe? Didn't that die like half a decade ago? More?

pearl elk
empty dune
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Oh wow they are going for round 2

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I didn't know

pearl elk
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maybe they should add Pals to Eve instead

empty dune
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A mobile port for palworld

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๐Ÿง 

pearl elk
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mobworld

broken sigil
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I'm getting an itch to play Apex again CB_catcry

pearl elk
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nooo you must play an extraction shooter instead

chrome gull
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each of these 74 food items take up 900+ mb of memory each

cursive crypt
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Naniteโ„ข ready

empty dune
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Wait

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Each

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Wtf

chrome gull
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I am trying to soft ref

chrome gull
unborn lotus
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I cant bring myself to nanite my assets. So far Ive just used chamfers everywhere and skipped on baking normal maps, tri counts are very high but manageable. I guess only for rocks and other organics ill just dump the zbrush meshes in UE

summer cedar
# empty dune Wtf

My question exactly.
@chrome gull HOW does each of those assets come to 900MB? Are you including multiple 4k textures or something?

summer cedar
chrome gull
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and then added my own logic to serve functionality

tulip orbit
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it looks like a typical marketplace asset pack, where the maker went "oh nanite! I dont have to optimise at all! millions of vertices! 4k textures for each mesh!"

chrome gull
summer cedar
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Okay. But, each asset shouldn't be 900MB regardless. I can understand all of the instances of each asset together being 900MB, but each and every one?

chrome gull
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I dunno, I''m clueless

summer cedar
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Yeah, the instances piled up can occupy 900MB in memory, sure.

summer cedar
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Do you have a screenshot of the level or gameplay that you can share?

summer cedar
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It seems like a very veggie, green project. ๐Ÿ™‚

broken sigil
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actually kinda good berk
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chrome gull
tulip orbit
chrome gull
summer cedar
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Even that many pick-ups on the ground shouldn't hit 900MB if the assets are light.

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Check the textures.

chrome gull
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this scene is happily running at 60 FPS without any drops

summer cedar
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Are those pick-ups using 4k textures?

chrome gull
summer cedar
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๐Ÿค” Dial one of them down to 1024 and see if the memory footprint for that drops.

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AFK eating chapati and potatoes, watching anime

chrome gull
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I am trying to keep it together

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(my sanity)

regal pecan
tulip orbit
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from what I can see of the sizemap thing, it looks like the breadloaf bp is referencing your inventory item base, which references save data which references the player character.... so yeah, lots of references.

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I'm no expert, but why is your breadloaf referencing the save data?

chrome gull
chrome gull
tulip orbit
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a pickup shouldnt be referencing the player, it should have an interface or a function that says "pickup" or interact that returns the item type so the player can then add to inventory or whatever

chrome gull
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that is what it does

tulip orbit
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I dont have a game project loaded, but the default FP blueprint for the rifle has a memory size of 61mb

chrome gull
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I have an interact interface

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now I'm more confused

tulip orbit
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if the item when the interact interface is called does a getPlayer, then calls a function on the player for pickup, then I think that would count as a reference

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like, Interact - getPlayerController - get inventory - additem(me)

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should be that calling Interact() returns the item name and quantity, or returns a pointer to the object, then the player/controller handles doing stuff with it

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I'm surprised tho, I've never looked at memory map before.... I checked the theme data asset for my map gen, which holds references to a dozen or more meshes and such, and its only about 5mb

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I cant seem to sleep, so I guess I'll make breakfast and coffee

chrome gull
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but ig it's better that I looked at them sooner

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rather than later

summer cedar
tulip orbit
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Player hits the use key on the item they want to pickup. PlayerCharacter calls the interact function, the interface has a return value, so you Interact with the item, it returns the itemName and quantity, with that returned value, it calls the inventory class to say "add this item". if the inventory says its added the item, that returns true back to the player character, which then tells the pickup that its been picked up

chrome gull
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I cut out the inventory part, the item gets used the moment it's picked up

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so there's no "storing"

summer cedar
tulip orbit
# summer cedar How does this stop the reference to the PlayerController?

the PlayerCharacter will probably always reference the playercontroller (as a pointer, shouldnt be a copy of the object). Tho you do have to avoid circular references. But the actual pickup is just using the interface and doesnt know anything about the player character or controller. It just knows that it had an interface call and it returned a value

summer cedar
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I see. Thank you โค๏ธ .

tulip orbit
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I could be wrong about the "probably always reference the PC" but every project I've done its been the case. but I'm also really bad at circular dependancies/references

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point is, the pickup shouldnt have any reference to the player, or know anything about it

soft night
woven wing
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Oh, I was thinking GDC was today and was excited

empty dune
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drop kicking them harder than the beat

summer cedar
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With a heretical shotgun or a blessed bolter? ๐Ÿ˜„

empty dune
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bro

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ultramar

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obviously blessed

summer cedar
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Yes, but I must question YOUR devotion personally. ๐Ÿ˜›

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That's a very nice track! ๐Ÿ˜„ โœŠ

empty dune
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also listen to "The imperial advance"

pearl elk
empty dune
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4 gb footprint

pearl elk
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Because I felt like the sandwiches in Starfield were a gimmick that had no real value to gameplay

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they have all this dehidrated food too which is essentially just reskins of the same thing. Personally I dont care enough to distiguish between them, big waste of resources

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Unless your game is specifically about managing junk in your inventory

empty dune
pearl elk
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I mean think about it, we live in a world where AI can do all these amazing things, we have automation galore but in Bethesdas future we are still shifting Apples from one box to another manually

chrome gull
pearl elk
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immersive sim sounds like an excuse for dated design philisophy

chrome gull
empty dune
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(im joking)

chrome gull
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there is literally no junk

pearl elk
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Death Stranding doesnt have food and it has one of the best Stamina systems Ive ever seen

chrome gull
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or an inventory

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what are you talking about ๐Ÿ˜ญ

empty dune
chrome gull
#

they won't be any

pearl elk
chrome gull
#

I hate inventory management and that's actually one of the reasons why I started making this game ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pearl elk
#

Even then, Ive seen games with complex stats for objects where people only use 1 or 2 because its what they like so you end up creating far more content than is necessary

pearl elk
#

just make a fruit salad and boom, theres like 20 fruits worth of savings ๐Ÿ˜›

regal pecan
#

As long as you encourage the player to discard whatever they can't carry, it shouldn't be an issue. As soon as you need to label a storage container, you're making inferior minecraft.

pearl elk
#

In The Forest they have different berries and mushrooms but no one eats the bad ones once they know the game, the whole mechanic is broken but we let it go cuz survivals are hot sauce

#

Ive played a survival game with food degredation and oh boy it is the worst mechanic ever, just makes something grindy more grindier

tulip orbit
#

in games where you have to have food, they always have recipes and cooking and all this extra junk, and I just end up eating apples or whatever is easiest to get and carry

pearl elk
#

crazy thing is most of these games accelerate hunger and thirst beyond realistic amounts to make it more immersive, its nonsensical to me

#

maybe its so people dont realise how small the maps really are because they have to fight energy and stamina etc for every 10m of running

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I feel like Im a more than a pack of day smoker in some of these, Forever Skies is particularly bad

empty dune
regal pecan
#

Fighting constant pressure and scrounging can make for a decent game loop. Problem is, a lot of survival games also want to do the minecraft building thing. The combination of a game loop that requires patience and planning and time, contrasted with a game loop that is constantly nagging you for attention is just mystifying.

pearl elk
#

Thing is early game is always the most punishing so you end up getting it easier when it should be getting more difficult

chrome gull
#

People eat like, what, 4 times a day?

pearl elk
#

We can survive much longer without food, we eat because we have the luxury of the 21st century

pearl elk
#

if youre somewhere hot for eg youre much more likely to get heatstroke and go loopy before you die of thirst

chrome gull
chrome gull
regal pecan
#

Who snacks between lunch and dinner

empty dune
pearl elk
#

no ones really captured the psychological aspects or the other threats of a foreign environment. Sons of the Forest I did a test, I put it on the hardest survival mode and left my player in a river for hours, all my meters were on lowest but no death

pearl elk
chrome gull
#

my game is set in a 2034 city lol

pearl elk
#

its tedious, Ive completely dropped any games with hunger systems

chrome gull
#

so not very harsh

chrome gull
pearl elk
#

something like GTA: SA was super clever, food was a fun aside to the main game

pearl elk
chrome gull
#

I'm trying to make it not unbearable but it is a large part of the game

chrome gull
pearl elk
#

See thats what I mean, stores everywhere so you end up just making it mechanical for the player. Does it actually add anything, well maybe you can find a hook in there somewhere that suits the setting

empty dune
pearl elk
#

Id love to buy a pet monkey and let it hoover up all the fruit for me, maybe it can feed me slices of apple when I get low enough bit like a fancy health regen ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
pearl elk
#

thats why all those gotchiwatchits died

chrome gull
empty dune
#

one is an ingame atmosphere

#

the other is external irl time limits

pearl elk
chrome gull
pearl elk
#

I only have a limited time to play so if 20 mins out of 1 hr of play is finding food and eating or resting...

#

that is not an extreme eg either

chrome gull
chrome gull
#

brb

#

I'll explain

empty dune
#

everything youve told me is the opposite

pearl elk
#

I think Ghostwire Tokyo has some sort of foods in it, I dont pay much attention to the different types they are all essentially healthpacks to my brain

empty dune
pearl elk
#

Can you name a fishing game for an example

empty dune
#

ultimate fishing simulator 2023 for games about fishing, rdr2 for games with fishing

pearl elk
#

nope dont play fishing simulators... Neverwinter had fishing but it was some sort of crafting mechanic, you get the different fish for some sort of seasoning carp

chrome gull
celest musk
#

xDD

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i like how they give you the opportunity to look at this for minutes to catch a fish

chrome gull
#

so I'm added more and more shit things while still trying to portray that the city is a good place to live in

empty dune
chrome gull
empty dune
#

i was wondering if he considered it a waste of time

pearl elk
#

I would just use dynamite but they want you to grind fishing

empty dune
celest musk
chrome gull
celest musk
#

e.g. like i use to think about work while taking walks/showers

chrome gull
#

that's just one quest in a big city

pearl elk
chrome gull
#

I basically wanted to state that the average citizen's biggest problem would be traffic

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but traffic doesn't make a lot of stories

chrome gull
#

so it doesn't exist in the game

empty dune
#

ah

regal pecan
#

Factorio, but the items have road rage

celest musk
pearl elk
#

Not much point wasting all that wattage on pretty graphics if Mini Motorways fills that spot nicely

chrome gull
#

but how many stories can you tell about road rage

celest musk
#

at least 2

empty dune
#

looks at gtaV
many apparently

pearl elk
#

Starfield was just so stressful with all the huffing and puffing, getting no where even with fully upgraded stamina. Games like that and Sons of the Forest just wear me down

chrome gull
#

I had to resort to creative ways to make the game's world a bit shitter

regal pecan
chrome gull
pearl elk
#

yet I can play a dark depressing game like Frostpunk and have heaps of fun even when the pressures on, those games arnt short either but I dont feel like its time wasted

chrome gull
#

idfc if it breaks the gameplay loop I don't want to manage inventory

pearl elk
#

I mean you gotta consider Ive been using the same boxy drag and drop interfaces since they were invented

chrome gull
#

ah right

pearl elk
#

with only very little improvements in that time

chrome gull
#

somehow TOW makes it really manageable which is baffling

#

I was never able to figure out how they managed it

#

it also had degrading weapons which I also hate

regal pecan
#

Player: Do I really need a 20th cheese wheel?
Game designer: You might.
Level designer: I put it there for a reason.
Interface designer: No one would ever.
Player: I'm picking it up.

chrome gull
#

it doesn't make sense at all for Fallout 4

#

you're (optionally) tasked with building ENTIRE settlements

empty dune
chrome gull
#

how tf am I supposed to carry all the stuff needed to build one in a fucking backpack?

#

yes yes here's 4 units of wood and metal go build your city now

pearl elk
#

I really liked The Forest inventory and then they went and made it worse somehow. I think it comes down to efficiency, what is the best to get the job done faster. They ended up adding quick buttons to get around the issue and we're kinda back where we started

chrome gull
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘

regal pecan
#

Five hours later...
Player: I lost slightly more health than I expected. Thank goodness I have these cheese wheels so that I don't have to use my precious more powerful healing items that I also have a hundred of.
Game designer: This is called "engagement".

pearl elk
#

Modern game design: Lets make it so players have to build a cheese wheel from cheese slices

celest musk
#

didn't KitBash3D sell kits in the past? All i can see is their subscription!?

empty dune
celest musk
#

-_-

empty dune
celest musk
#

what if i pay for a month and download everything they have? ๐Ÿ˜„

#

ah nvm, some kits still have a kit buy option

pearl elk
#

They might have a clause in there where you have to be an active subscriber to launch with that content

celest musk
#

then i'll subscribe on the launch month again ๐Ÿ˜„

queen isle
#

it appears helldivers devs ran out of internet.
server capicities keep being reached

pearl elk
#

Im pretty sure its like that with Adobe and Autodesk subs, you have to be active to be able to sell your stuff

celest musk
#

wth

#

adobe really has that clause?

pearl elk
#

Last I checked but that was awhile ago, maybe its been updated

#

Whats with all these asset browsers which suck ๐Ÿ˜›

celest musk
#

well i can see how most people don't mind tho

#

a studio which can afford a license most likely likes the idea to just import the stuff straight to UE from their App

#

assuming it supports UE and isn't just a "fancy" downloader

pearl elk
#

Id say most are just fancy downloaders, even the search tools arnt that great typically

celest musk
#

apparently it has UE integration

#

so probably works like Quixel Bridge

pearl elk
#

oh yay, another thing to crash my build just like Bridge ๐Ÿ˜›

empty dune
pearl elk
#

Honestly it would be awesome if someone made a raw asset management tool for indie studios

celest musk
#

and windows only...

#

dev is on this server

empty dune
celest musk
#

what could go wrong...

empty dune
#

Twice the disk space, double the pain

pearl elk
#

This is what happens when everything does things The Epic Way (tm) and Epic are all like UNREAL EDITOR FOR FORTNITE

empty dune
celest musk
#

insert harold pain gif without morph and janky wobbling here

summer cedar
#

No.

#

Bunny be FREE!

empty dune
#

@summer cedar

summer cedar
#

Very true.

empty dune
#

i love ultramarines XD

summer cedar
#

They look very ultra, regal-like.

#

I want to play Space Marines 2.

#

Captain Titus shall reign supreme. Screw the inquisitors.

pearl elk
#

What if they were just sort of okay marines

summer cedar
empty dune
# summer cedar They look very ultra, regal-like.

okay, this will be fun. youre the second person i get to do this to XD

you know that ultramarines are named after the color of their armor, right? Their armor color is ultramarine blue. It has nothing to do with being ultra XD

well, third person

summer cedar
pearl elk
#

Blood Ravens are the ultraest

empty dune
#

do not fuck with ultramarine logistics

woven wing
#

Oh, because they're ultra marines, they must be ultra good at logistics

pearl elk
#

Blue is faster logistically speaking, its so their crates dont get mixed up with any of the other marines

summer cedar
#

Don't mess with the ultramarines period.
When they go beyond, plus ultra, then you die. (manga reference there, for those of you who get it)
Well... you die anyway. But, you die ultra-more this way.

woven wing
#

Blue is lucky

#

That's why ultramarines are the most popular

#

Because Orks

summer cedar
#

I hope Space Marines 2 has Capt. Titus taking revenge on his lieutenant who sold him out to the inquisitors.

#

Also, I hope we get to squish an entire inquisitorial ship and its crew, just for kicks.

#

THEN, we get to the orks.

pearl elk
#

I couldnt get the first Space Marine game to run ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

summer cedar
#

Huh? Why?

pearl elk
#

Just crashes for me

summer cedar
#

๐Ÿค” At the intro-movie stage, or in-game menu?

pearl elk
#

lol neither, it doesnt get that far

summer cedar
#

Well, you are a heretic clearly.

#

The Emperor doesn't favour you and has cursed your machine.

empty dune
summer cedar
#

He is. Notice his previous dig at the ultramarines.

empty dune
summer cedar
pearl elk
#

Nah I just like true Space Marines like Blood Ravens, all the others are just cheap knock offs ๐Ÿ˜›

empty dune
#

blood ravens are 100% magnus's sons

#

everytime they see something shiny they go

summer cedar
#

I would love to see any marine chapter vs. berserk Blood Ravens - plot line being that the Blood Ravens have gone insane and are rampaging across a sector. You, as a marine, must kill them all to purge the chaos.

#

Warhammer 40,000: The Blood Opera

slim atlas
#

wtf

#

they literally have killed the series

pearl elk
#

Mustard Chef needs his helmet

wide socket
timber viper
wide socket
timber viper
pearl elk
#

I dunno, when I fail I get to keep my skills

tulip orbit
timber viper
slim atlas
tulip orbit
timber viper
#

it was wonderful too

tulip orbit
#

had trouble sleeping earlier today during my "night", so I really needed the nap

summer cedar
#

Fly! FLY! Fly fists of fire and fury!

summer cedar
#

True servants to stupidity there, standing right on their burning gatehouse.

celest musk
#

just noticed that the VLC instance i've opened a week ago kept 2 of my cores at 100% for some reason -_-

#

the perks of having a high core count i guess...

river sable
#

it's just like RAM I suppose, if there's available resources you ought to use them

#

funny how sometimes when you swap an i for a k things work a lot better all of a sudden thinkies

summer cedar
#

Two generals duel, armies volley arrows at one another, it is twilight as the sun sets on thousands of lives.

summer cedar
#

le sigh
The game's crashing repeatedly for some reason, in this battle, although the VFX on-screen are much lighter than those in the siege.

river sable
thick belfry
#

@woven ocean in the netherlands

woven ocean
#

nice

#

do they teach smth or do you learn all by yourself?

thick belfry
#

Thats an article from UE on the uni I go to

#

the title is a bit clickbaity but the content describes the program really well

woven ocean
#

cuz In Moldova they only give us tasks ,they dont teach and expect results from us

thick belfry
#

Its a combination but Id say 80% of the time Im just working on my project

#

In my opinion, you should really only go to a college for gamedev for these reasons:

Opportunity to work on your skills fulltime
Connections
Getting experience with teamwork
Constant feedback loop from experts

woven ocean
#

yeah but do they give you information?Do they show how games are made?Maybe modeling classes,sound design,or programming

thick belfry
#

Well, I study game design so I dont do any modeling or sound design or programming (except in blueprints)

thick belfry
#

The thing is, you gotta specialise, so at that point they cant really give too many in depth courses

#

Since theyd have to give 50 lectures for 50 students

#

each one needing something else

#

So, the main loop of learning is: You get a project -> You decide what you want to tackle on the project and submit your plan -> get feedback and greenlight -> work on porject -> get feedback -> improve -> etc

#

until the deadline

#

Sure, teachers are useless, why do we even have school

#

I always find it funny that a lot of game developers think this job is so special it cant be taught

#

You just need a proper program

#

Not everyone can do selfstudy and be succesful, Id argue the majority of people cant

woven ocean
#

i mean i understang that the person that knows his job will not teach but work,but holy sh*t how do i learns from a teacher that i am able to teach?

#

they are like from the movie story toys

thick belfry
#

in my opinion ofc

river sable
summer cedar
#

How dare you!

thick belfry
#

So, the biggest advantage for me is that I am now able to work fulltime on gamedev

#

and only work in the weekends

chrome gull
#

I'm just going to mine to have some social connections

#

college is horrible

summer cedar
#

Ask the Emperor on the Golden Throne for forgiveness.

chrome gull
#

for education, at least

summer cedar
#

Do it NAOW!

river sable
#

social connections, ew

chrome gull
#

same here lmao, all my time is being hogged by the college, no time to work on my demo

chrome gull
woven ocean
river sable
#

hey at least you can do spy shit now

thick belfry
#

You gotta be careful what program, cause theres a lot of shitty gamedev ones. This was the only one relatively near me I thought would be worth it

#

My school says on the website the piece of paper is the least important part of what youll get actually

#

Cause noone cares about it if your portfolio is lacking

#

So thats what we focus on

summer cedar
#

Well, I think I have reached the limit of TW: Three Kingdoms. The game crashes repeatedly in this battle. I think this is one of those late-game optimisation bugs.

thick belfry
#

But usually when I see people be negative about going to school for gamedev, and I ask them why, they describe the worst programs possible and Im like yeah... dont go to those schools, seems pretty logical to me

chrome gull
#

I am not even getting the fucking paper, I'm searching for some distance learning shit to get that

thick belfry
#

(Not saying, you need college, but in my case I wouldnt be in my position without it)

woven ocean
#

but it would be a great idea if developers and proffesionals that work at the job,as representants of their companies would teach students,so they will work in future at their companies

thick belfry
#

We do get a bunch of industry people give lecturers, we hold a few conferences and they come in regularly (4 times a year) to do portfolio reviews which is nice

#

Yeah, some people arent fortunate enough to be able to go to a good one

#

But again, you dont strictly need education

woven ocean
thick belfry
#

I missed the signup for a portfolio review from the Larian design team ๐Ÿ’€

#

Next year.... lol

broken sigil
woven ocean
#

btw,i quit my team cuz we had misunderstandings,and now im making my game from start in 3 months

#

while others continue their games

#

i will be a level designer,programmer ,3d artist sound designer and game designer

summer cedar
woven ocean
#

tough

chrome gull
blazing wolf
#

Paper credentials can be useful, but people are right that it's not the most important thing. At my first job out of college as a programmer I got a 3 month probationary period. At the end of it when I was confirmed as a full time employee I asked my boss what in my resume made him hire me and he said it was because I had worked in a bakery going in at 5am in the morning for four years while going to college and that told him that I would take my job seriously and work hard at it. Sometimes that's what potential employers value the most.

summer cedar
#

We're both from the same glorious civilisation. ๐Ÿ˜„
We think right. ๐Ÿ˜„

chrome gull
woven ocean
#

i like to develop solo,but i need more blueprint knowledge

summer cedar
#

Accept it. Embrace it. BECOME it.

chrome gull
blazing wolf
#

The university gave me a piece of paper, while the bakery gave me cinnamon rolls. I'll leave it to the reader to decide which is better

woven ocean
#

here is the game im working on,about a caterpillar that in 7 days will become a butterfly now the caterpillar is very ugly,but its only for testing

chrome gull
#

the caterpillar is your player character?

woven ocean
#

yessir

blazing wolf
#

Is it hungry, hungry?

woven ocean
#

its not ๐Ÿ™‚

chrome gull
# woven ocean yessir

nice nice I also have a game like that planned but I simply don't have the resourced needed to work on it

summer cedar
#

Do you collect the nuts from the ground, digest it, hibernate, and transform into a beautiful butterfly?

woven ocean
#

just has to make some quests and open up abilities

chrome gull
#

(you'll need to control multiple animals to successfully cause a revolution against mankind)

woven ocean
chrome gull
woven ocean
#

very simplified

chrome gull
#

no models, animations, skill, money, etc

#

my PC can handle pretty much anything you throw at it (flex)

woven ocean
#

just overlap with a plant,add it to a integer variable ,and still have issues ๐Ÿ˜‚

woven ocean
woven ocean
#

what gpu do u have?

chrome gull
chrome gull
woven ocean
#

ohhh man

#

same ๐Ÿ™‚

#

and intel i5 9400๐Ÿ’€

#

the best pair of the decade

chrome gull
#

Ryzen 9 7900x ๐Ÿ˜Ž

woven ocean
woven ocean
#

like parent-child relation

median wraith
#

my phone feels like this now, each company pretending to have an app and be special

median wraith
#

Laura, you should be outside with the dog and the couple taking fresh air

cursive crypt
#

Nah, they still searching where are the files shown in that File manager.

river sable
#

now that's a 2003 playlist if I've ever seen one

celest musk
#

nvm, cooledit was sfx

blazing wolf
#

Today I have made a great leap forward in my development. I found a color theme for Visual Studio that I like!

brittle holly
#

speaking of red pandas, was Turning Red any good?

#

ah is it about female red panda empowerement?

blazing wolf
brittle holly
#

so basically Forspoken

#

a failed Ubi "game"

errant raven
#

What's DS mean

#

All I read is Dark Souls

#

@summer cedar my tree is going along fine.

errant raven
slim atlas
#

Hi

errant raven
#

That's a double chest full of shulker boxes each filled with spruce logs

soft night
#

how dragon is the mother ?

slim atlas
#

i am the mother and also the dragon

#

I just asked luos if he was ok

#

because he was talking about shooting children in #graphics

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

strange times

turbid spindleBOT
#

:question: mother dragon is that good to have both in one?
:8ball: Outlook not so good.

slim atlas
#

I am

#

fire

celest musk
#

i remove childs from their parents several times a day

slim atlas
#

I make them suffer

#

i put additional components in them

#

forcefully

celest musk
#

they get garbage collected at some point

slim atlas
#

and then...

#

I DESTROY THEM

#

AFTER I USED THEM

cursive crypt
#

wow

slim atlas
#

I am shocked too...

#

i dont know why that sounded so good

#

bye.

celest musk
#

ironically i just got a resisting child...

empty dune
summer cedar
errant raven
#

In a bit, brothers playing game

summer cedar
# woven ocean most likely

At this point, do enemies strap the butterfly to a patient's chair, dissect it, and find out if it can be a reliable friend?

brittle dove
# empty dune https://futurism.com/the-byte/contact-lost-spacecraft-quantum-drive Lol this ar...
It is with great sadness that we have to announce that after over 2 months in orbit, we have lost contact with the satellite carrying our fuel-less engine, which was slated to upend the laws of physics as we know it, and radically change life for every human in existence the moment we turned it on.

However we would like to thank you for your support and money that got us here. We are determined to keep this up.
-what cssoftware imagines they said.
#

that shit is a blatant scam lol.

summer cedar
#

Holy heck! I just told a medium-sized, friendly alliance - with about 6 to 10 provinces under their control - that they had better federate themselves with my Empire, or I'd destroy their entire alliance. My military was just 25% or so better than theirs, going my the game's measurement system. THEY AGREED! ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿคฃ

river sable
empty dune
#

so i wasnt the only one

#

i felt something was wrong

river sable
#

I might have been misinformed

empty dune
#

should i get a sponsership from big ion now? ๐Ÿ˜‚

brittle dove
#

You guys into exotic propulsion methods?

empty dune
#

right now @chrome gull is sponsering me

river sable
#

disregard anything I said ๐Ÿ˜„

#

I was very much into the Em-Drive around 10 years ago

empty dune
#

same

#

its theoretically possible

#

just not practical

#

shame

river sable
#

and was very hype when nasa did tests and they were apparently promising

#

then never heard of it again

brittle dove
#

usually those end up being the best things.

empty dune
river sable
#

that sounds about right ๐Ÿ˜„

empty dune
#

man space travel would be cool

brittle dove
#

Lots of these projects that start out public, or with some public record, and then there is a test and you never hear about it again are just projects that become classified R&D

#

like the US army lighting gun.

river sable
#

imagine if like people went to the moon

empty dune
#

but doesnt look like star trek is gonna be a thing anytime soon

river sable
#

and landed there

brittle dove
#

and laser induced plasma in general

river sable
#

it would be the coolest thing ever

brittle dove
river sable
#

is that a UAP

brittle dove
#

It is.

#

Kind of.

#

This technology was first publicly demonstrated by a japanese aerial display company. using laser induced plasma to rasterize shapes in the air.

river sable
#

(pog)

brittle dove
#

because it's just laser and mirrors, it can do things like move at impossible speeds, change shape, etc.

river sable
#

how blind do you go when looking at it?

brittle dove
#

an easy shape to render would be a large cylinder just made of a bunch of rings.

#

like a tic tac.

river sable
brittle dove
empty dune
river sable
#

๐Ÿ˜„

brittle dove
#

You can get EM energy, gamma rays, all sorts of fun stuff out of the plasma bursts so it has plenty of use in exotic sensing, and electronic warfare

river sable
#

F CSSoftware you will be membered

brittle dove
#

This is all public information

river sable
#

because you leaked it from the secret archives

brittle dove
empty dune
#

sometimes i can still hear him like he's still here

river sable
#

right?

#

I even see text popping up in the channel sometimes

#

it's a bit spooky

empty dune
#

just memories....sigh.......

river sable
#

kidding aside this is very cool CSS

empty dune
#

i think the cia got to him actually this time

#

๐Ÿ’€

brittle dove
#

Nah lol, there's stuff I won't talk about, but this isn't it.

river sable
#

has anyone followed the UAP stuff recently? I did not have any time, didn't follow anything since the hearings basically

river sable
#

any pog news?

empty dune
river sable
#

the galactic federation is watching the space monkeys throw sticks and rocks

empty dune
#

one rock even makes a mushroom!

river sable
#

those are the most fun yeah

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never know when you might need one of those, or a couple thousand

brittle dove
# river sable any pog news?

It's all a distraction so that people don't get in trouble for technically mishandling money that is funneled into beyond-state-of-the-art R&D

empty dune
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thats why russia has our backs covered

river sable
empty dune
brittle dove
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Watch as nothing truly groundbreaking continues to not come out of it.

river sable
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yeah I've been off the hype train for a bit, I do believe grusch believes what he's saying. however how true all of it is in the end is another story

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we will see, it's been fun following it. at least for the most part

brittle dove
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He's actually a former high level person though, if there would be someone to stick to the cover story and willing to make a saccrifice to do it, it would be him. He will also be able to fade into obscurity, so it's more of a short lived spotlight type thing.

woven wing
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Doomer GDC prediction: Epic sunsets UE for small developers and pushes everyone towards UEFN

brittle dove
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wouldn't work.

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Yeah, regardless of what they want, regardless of the law they have put the source code out there. Unreal is "free" and thats not ever changing.

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can't delete stuff from the internet.

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rule #1

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So yeah even with cynicism cranked up, that just means that epic games learns the hard way that their decision can cut both ways.

woven wing
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For current versions sure

brittle dove
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yeah, but even without that, we could just go back to "the internet is the wild west, try to stop it"

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obviously

woven wing
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This isn't the way I want to owe Epic money lol

brittle dove
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Nah, I know that the companies are over encumbered by their own weight and ability to be found and pay money. I'm talking about small developers who have the ability to release things anonymously if they want. underground indie type shit.

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right, those are just the types who would still be able to continue to utilize a pirated unreal engine in the event that epic games goes crazy and people still want to use it.

woven wing
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"What if we got all the indie devs in UE to move to fortnite"

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Line of thinking

slim atlas
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for a few more days ๐Ÿ˜„

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until nintendo wipes the company out

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copyright law basicly doesnt exist in japan

brittle dove
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I love palworld and I never even played it / don't plan to. It just proves that real, actual fun games can still get high player counts like "back in the day"

I remember hopping on halo 3 after school and seeing 200-300k online, and thats about how many players were on palworld last time I checked a day or so ago. Many people were arguing that "games can't get high player counts anymore" because of the larger number of options for people to play.

Palworld proves it can still happen. Most games are just actual trash and scams.

slim atlas
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define fun.

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I am going to roast you so hard ๐Ÿ˜„

brittle dove
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no idea, but based on actual, real world results people find palworld to be very very fun.

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and thats what im talking about.

woven wing
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I haven't heard anything. Just had the worst most MBA thought ever about that UEFN thing and wanted to share

slim atlas
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palworld already lost 60% of its audience

woven wing
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Every game does

brittle dove
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lol yeah down to a meager 200k players online

slim atlas
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The only fun the game had is pokemon with guns

brittle dove
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I bet they are crying so hard right now

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only 300k

slim atlas
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Everyone defines fun in their own way

brittle dove
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They are probably gonna shut it down like the day before because they only have 300k players online, it's a failure, abandon ship!

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gimme a break lol

slim atlas
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The true problem games have these days, is that everyone and their mum is trying to monetize the gameplay...

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NFTs, Blockchain, Lootboxes, Cashshops...

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The games are deliberatly made worse

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for these comfort articles

brittle dove
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right, and palworld shows they can be made better.

slim atlas
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palworld hasnt done anything special

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at all

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its just another smashhit

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god of war did the same

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alan wake 2

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singleplayer games

woven wing
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Palworld had good pal designs

brittle dove
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I loved their absolutely savage response to the new york times article that talked about how they lost the players.

They came out and said "don't worry, you don't have to feel bad for not playing after you finish the content" mic drop

woven wing
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Something every other pokemon competitor failed to do

slim atlas
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So doing something right can make money

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like

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god of war

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or alan wake...

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discord lag

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ah well

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bye.

brittle dove
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Palworld hasn't done anything special
It's just a smash hit

You should enter the olympic mental gymnastics.

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bye.

celest musk
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but it's playable, has content, has a gameloop, and gatcha mechanics to keep players engaged for a while ๐Ÿ˜„

brittle dove
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it certainly doesn't look like a masterpiece to me.

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But I still love it and what it's doing, and the shockwaves it's sending through the industry.

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dcs is the main game I play

slim atlas
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or alan wake...

brittle dove
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Then why so defensive?

slim atlas
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the idea that good games done right still make great games

brittle dove
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Arrest my case your honor!

slim atlas
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stop praising palworld

brittle dove
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lol

slim atlas
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its not sending a shockwave

celest musk
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palworld is like that one super successful derpy indie game which releases once in two years

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like among us

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minecraft

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and whatever else fits into that scheme ๐Ÿ˜„

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but imho it only got good because of modders

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if you compare vanilla to a decent modpack...

woven wing
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I'm excited to see their new terrain solution

woven wing
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The only thing I know about it is it being on the roadmap

errant raven
broken sigil
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KD in Titanfall goes brr berk