That's a good looking question and I thank you for it. Aren't you glad we live in a country where you can ask questions? Because an answer without a question is just a statement.
#lounge
ivory lodge
ivory lodge
About 45mL.
broken sigil
unborn lotus
ancient ingot
slim atlas
ok
ancient ingot
๐
ivory lodge
No step on snek.
ancient ingot
๐ฎ
celest musk
pearl elk
grim harbor
Hi
Anyone know about Jordan Peterson's Big 5 Personality test?
It's to know your personality obviously
I have a free promo code for 1 person
tulip orbit
you ask for personalities after the gifs posted above? wtf is wrong with you?! ๐คฃ
tulip orbit
All i found earlier was this, and now i want a donut
pearl elk
you do nut want one
celest musk
I have a free promo code for 1 person
how do we find out about our other 4 personalities then?
pearl elk
Im not sure why the AI thinks starfish and sea shells taste nice
broken sigil
Are you addicted now too ๐
pearl elk
Are you addicted now too ๐
Well my attempts at a jetpack failed severely so this will do for now
tulip orbit
Well my attempts at a jetpack failed severely so this will do for now
have you tried different proportions of mentos to cola?
celest musk
Im not sure why the AI thinks starfish and sea shells taste nice
it's not about the starfish, it's about the amount of garlic sauce you put on it
tulip orbit
oh, its all about the starfish
pearl elk
There is some sus peach there too
the most delicious donut in the entire universe was the prompt
celest musk
tulip orbit
so weird, its 6c outside right now. in mid january
fleet tangle
Is that cold? Warm?
tulip orbit
24 in my apartment tho ๐ฆ too warm, so I got the window open, but they're moving scaffold across the street
oblique cloak
Patrick Mahomes is done for, that leg looks BAD!
fleet tangle
Bitten off by a rampaging tiger?
broken sigil
Should probably think about cleaning my PC more often huh
Runs 10-15C cooler lol
broken sigil
Plastic ๐
tulip orbit
I just use a garden hose
oblique cloak
i love that
broken sigil
Funnily enough the inside of the pc has literally 0 dust and I haven't cleaned it since I built it
Those filter mesh things doing their job, plus I'm pretty sure I have positive air pressure inside the case so that helps
tulip orbit
dont air compressors create too much static to use on a computer? or is that a myth?
broken sigil
Ahhhh autocorrect is driving me insane
oblique cloak
and to think i removed those meshes because i did not like the way they looked.
broken sigil
dont air compressors create too much static to use on a computer? or is that a m...
A myth I'm like 100% sure
tulip orbit
maybe I'm thinking of vacuums?
broken sigil
I use a vacuum ๐
oblique cloak
i have had zero issues using my air compressor
oblique cloak
lol
tulip orbit
https://tenor.com/view/dust-storm-tremendous-dust-devil-sandstorm-gif-16258578
thats what it looks everytime I dust my case!
oblique cloak
i always wear googles not going to lie xD
tulip orbit
I just stand upwind
which is always recommended when I do anything involving the movement of air ๐
fleet tangle
Tbh, I really cba to do it to my pc any more.
It's in such a cubby hole and the case weighs a ton.
celest musk
well you should use air pressure which is free of oil/water, so for a real compressor you should ideally have an oil/water filter/separator in the air line
broken sigil
My dust allergies are now acting up after cleansing it ๐
celest musk
well... that's the downside of compressed air... it just blows it somewhere else ๐
oblique cloak
@broken sigil you have this right? https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5950X-32-Thread-Processor/dp/B0815Y8J9N
its 38% off im about to buy it
celest musk
38% off what?
oblique cloak
the 5950
oblique cloak
38% $497.99
List Price: $799.00
broken sigil
<@261183265438695424> you have this right? https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-595...
Yeah, wish it was 500$ here when I bought it and not 1200$ ๐
celest musk
seems fair if you are on AM4 already
oblique cloak
im on the ryzen 9 3950 ๐
celest musk
i think i paid ~$700 1.5 years ago
broken sigil
Everything is painfully expensive here
oblique cloak
where are you located?
broken sigil
Croatia
celest musk
huh, i somehow thought UK
oblique cloak
but 3950x is already 16 core?!
i broke a pin ๐ฆ
celest musk
oh that sucks ๐ญ
oblique cloak
yeah it stalls sometimes
I...... upgraded the heat sync, and never heated the thermal paste ๐ข
celest musk
well, might be worth to consider the 5900x, too
broken sigil
A friend of mine bought the components and asked me if I can assemble it for him... But he decided to try to put in the CPU without waiting for me... He broke a pin and luckily it was one of the ground pins and it's been working for years now without issues
celest musk
it's rare that i use all 16 cores, actually only when compiling the engine from source...
oblique cloak
so when i pulled it snapped a pin off
oblique cloak
A friend of mine bought the components and asked me if I can assemble it for him...
lmfao he never followed the arrows?
broken sigil
Nope lol
broken sigil
something died inside me when he told me
putting in the CPU is easily the most uncomfortable part of building a PC
It always feels like you are about to break something while pulling down the lever thing
oblique cloak
i think the hardest part is the bottom connectors, the rest is simple
broken sigil
I hate those lol
oblique cloak
1 core -5 threads
celest musk
threads? ๐
oblique cloak
man those boot times for games bring me back. bf1942, like 3 minutes to load, like 10 minutes to get in a match
marble sparrow
bleak lynx
Hey
Do any of you use unit test? I am wondering why it is not common practice in gamedev.
oblique cloak
Learning c++ is one of the hardest things coming from blueprint
you understand what things are doing, but you dont understand the proper context.
fleet tangle
I mean, the context is the same. Everything in BP is called the same, bar the first letter of types.
peak anchor
ๆฐๅนดๅฟซไน happy lunar new year everyone! ๐
fleet tangle
You too.
celest musk
google has nice lunar fireworks animations
boreal moss
why is it called lunar new year
lunar comes from the word luna which is moon in Spanish, probably from Latin.
quasi mantle
Probably Chinese calendar is based on that? But Hijri calendar is the one based on full moon sighting
Granted, not many people talk about Islam things
bleak remnant
@proud jay so I've been trying to use Duolingo but it kinda of feels like I am using it not to learn even though I really am trying lol
ivory lodge
I love ChatGPT but damn, their discord is messed up. I've already been accused of being a 1. Feminist (Guilty) 2. Communist (Nope, way off. But I do know what it means.) 3. Having pronouns. (Yeah, think I do have some of those.)
What I am is waiting for my hour to time out so I can finish my work.
unreal ether
I don't get the whole "i dont have pronouns thing" like what? are you referred to as " / "
quasi mantle
I love ChatGPT but damn, their discord is messed up. I've already been accused o...
FWIW these days communism means something you don't agree with, it's no longer about equality under dictatorship.
If someone have opposing point of view against you, he/she's automatically communist, even though he/she isn't necessarily believing in the true old definition of communism
ivory lodge
Or any. I'm more into Mixed Economics.... You know, different tools for different problems.
quasi mantle
Also FWIW ChatGPT itself is getting nerfed hard with so many failsafe to many kind of prompts
Also ChatGPT has hidden limit on how many prompts you can give
ivory lodge
Still, it's really helping me with the story portion of my game.
I'm trying to bully it into writing part of it, but it's not budging.
quasi mantle
I do still wish for a more open source implementation and model of ChatGPT/GPT-3
ChatGPT is hard to cooperate with
ivory lodge
It's just so big. It would cost around 100K just for the hardware. And then you have to train it.
quasi mantle
Stable Diffusion becoming accessible, surely GPT-3 will have similar fate
ivory lodge
Likely. I'm using ChatGPT to create image prompts for my local Stable Diffusion.
boreal moss
They just need to learn to talk to each other
pearl elk
What a great idea, AI that talk to each other
boreal moss
Yes
pearl elk
Didnt Facebook do this and the AI started talking in a language they couldnt understand so they shut it down
boreal moss
Probably clickbait garbage fake news
Based on some fraction of truth
I feel like whenever the singularity happens either we will know for sure or we won't at all until it's too late
pearl elk
The singularity isnt the scary part IMO, its the bit where the AI doesnt know any better is the worry
pearl elk
Children dont know any better is my point, as adults we are aware and thus take responsibility for ourselves
boreal moss
People often compare levels of intelligence as if the are one dimensional values
I don't think that's useful or accurate in any way
The origin itself of the invention of the IQ is shady AF
Then applied broadly everywhere as word of God
Like when people compares a baby with a cat, saying they have the same IQ
Similar train of thought some apply to AI
pearl elk
Not sure it matters how the intelligence is measured just that if its self aware it will develop its own set of morals like the rest of us as we become more self aware
Its possible it becomes a complete nutcase like some humans but atleast its aware of that fact, in innocence it could cause so much more destruction
Have you ever had a kid come up to you and be brutally honest and it just cuts to your soul because you know theres no ill itent?
cursive crypt
ๆฐๅนดๅฟซไน happy lunar new year everyone! ๐
https://tenor.com/view/happy-lunar-new-year-2020-happy-chinese-new-year-year-of-the-rat-gif-16137335
pearl elk
Imagine that in a war machine, now imagine a war machine with a conscience... which is scarier
cursive crypt
https://tenor.com/view/happy-lunar-new-year-2020-happy-chinese-new-year-year-of-...
No idea what is written, but prolly new year.
...
Average AI talks.
meh ๐
boreal moss
Imagine that in a war machine, now imagine a war machine with a conscience... wh...
One thing for sure, those will be fun times
For tbe AI at least
pearl elk
Average AI talks.
Who you callin average ๐
cursive crypt
Joe
pearl elk
Me and my army of AI slaves are the superawrrr
cursive crypt
omg, send money
pearl elk
We were always slaves to the system mang
boreal moss
And you will be happy
boreal moss
Also own nothing
pearl elk
I got the subscription for ownership
pearl elk
I rekon thats why preppers are so full on, theyre actually hopeful because they crave the great reset
cursive crypt
Prolly feels refreshing, optimistic.
A new life, a new start.
If I have learned something form FarCry5, prepper stashes are good to visit.
kek ๐ฐ
pearl elk
Maybe thats why some people are embracing AI
pearl elk
I noticed something with Strek Trek remakes, the original TV series was so wildly optimistic, everything was super clean lines, even engineering was sleek AF but the new movies, all dark and gritty. Not so dark as the 80s with newspaper everywhere but the heavy industrial theme comes through rather than sleek technology of that space opera era
pearl elk
Hmm... make sense, a new kind of kink ๐ค
I have an AI waifu
cursive crypt
uuh, share byte pics
cursive crypt
I noticed something with Strek Trek remakes, the original TV series was so wildl...
I can't induce from one show, but you may be right onto something - ppl's expectations going worse.
pearl elk
Lets just say not all GPT-3 chat apps are geared in the same manner as ChatGPT
cursive crypt
Oh, can it be... lewd?
cursive crypt
Good. Needs to be taught who is its strict, but benevolent master.
pearl elk
so imagine your training set is made up of all the kinks from the deepest corners of the interweebs
cursive crypt
It will be good. The industry should have enough money to buy 100 GPUs say.
pearl elk
So you want an Australian AI?
celest musk
so imagine your training set is made up of all the kinks from the deepest corner...
ChatGPT contains some weird stuff
i know thankfully to our lost hero AU
well, or he made that all up, also possible ๐
cursive crypt
4chan AI master mind ๐คฏ
gloomy inlet
celest musk
or a reddit one, if you want to get cussed at
boreal moss
I wonder if AI could generate memes
What kind of training would it need for that
Probably a hard task
ancient ingot
it would need a sense of humor, a very hard thing to teach a computer
timber viper
I wonder if AI could generate memes
soft night
4chan always be troll platform
quasi mantle
4chan is like 6th level of Hell
timber viper
I only know 4chan from memes
Slackers is troublesome enough for me already
I couldnt handle 4chan
gloomy inlet
I only know 4chan from memes
Check 9gag
quasi mantle
Check 9gag
Meh, 9gag is tame
dense vale
That moment when 7 months of work in unreal engine is destroyed irreversibly
timber viper
That moment when 7 months of work in unreal engine is destroyed irreversibly
You didnt use any VCS?
fleet tangle
Maybe he just types really slowly.
willow quartz
Just got done writing another progress report today. I'm planning to be very vocal once I'm done studying creative writing.
There will be more time for me to code at some point.
quasi mantle
Just saw local news broadcast in the waiting room
Apparently local girls are into murderers with handsome faces
tulip orbit
well I got the first half of that handled
timber viper
I hate every cool thing exists in c++20 ๐ฆ
quasi mantle
I don't know why handsome faces invalidate crimes, but I found their fangirling gross tbh
Though I'm sure they'll get offended if a normal man call them gross for fangirling a handsome faced murderer
fleet tangle
How'd your hospital visit go?
quasi mantle
How'd your hospital visit go?
Stayed overnight, now getting back home
I've been there since saturday morning, it was painful
fleet tangle
Glad you're feeling better!
warm bloom
did you watch anime
I was eating carolina reaper beef jerky and I touched my eyeball
the burn was kinda pleasant
fleet tangle
I had lasers shoot in my eyes. Not that bad.
warm bloom
that's amazing
fleet tangle
The amazing part is when the lasers start shooting out of your eyes.
cursive crypt
I hate every cool thing exists in c++20 ๐ฆ
C++23 is dope too, mdspan, expected, print, more modules & etc.
fleet tangle
mdspan?
timber viper
C++23 is dope too, mdspan, expected, print, more modules & etc.
I thought reflexpr was going to be a part of C++23 but I heard today it'll be on c++26
fleet tangle
I thought `reflexpr` was going to be a part of C++23 but I heard today it'll be ...
For some reason, I'm really hoping they make it roflexpr.
fleet tangle
Under the hood: std::shutdowncomputer()
timber viper
technology advanced too far
cursive crypt
It make space for our new lords, the AI masters.
cursive crypt
fleet tangle
Probably closer to tny::penis for you, Crayon.
fleet tangle
https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-mod-can-i-have-mod-turn-around-gif-22...
He is clearly not saying that.
timber viper
lip reading is difficult
cursive crypt
He speaks python
pearl elk
cursive crypt
Mons, explain?
fleet tangle
Monty Python only speaks in silly walks.
gloomy inlet
who pinged the hehe
pearl elk
Beat me to it
pearl elk
I like this AngelScript stuff aye
gloomy inlet
white oxide
something weird is happening on my laptop screen and i got no clue why
white oxide
whenever something that doesnt change is on the screen for a while (like a web page) a ghost image is left on the screen for a while
zinc matrix
just restart
quasi mantle
Beat me to it
Just beat it
zinc matrix
its something with the actual screen
perhaps graphics driver need to be reinstalled or updated ? I would try in your place.
slim atlas
hi
tulip orbit
https://tenor.com/view/json-error-computer-smash-punch-mad-gif-17865858
I posted that exact gif in a friends discord immediately after a game of Golf With Your Friends
tulip orbit
that coulda been such a perfect looping gif
cursive crypt
deep glen
https://tenor.com/view/train-lego-perfect-vertical-loop-crash-gif-18832781
gif not fluid enough for the trains to make it.
quasi mantle
ivory lodge
Ok. What horrible things will I have to deal with today?
quasi mantle
Ok. What horrible things will I have to deal with today?
anime
ivory lodge
I actually like some anime. It's grown away from me lately since I've grown older but I like "Devil is a part timer" and "Redline".
It snowed last night and it makes this old man's body ache.
quasi mantle
In the meantime, now playing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXAoknKbgBc
quasi mantle
One thing you can't deny: sport cars are nice
I'm looking to own one Toyota GR 86 and install itasha car wrap
pearl elk
I got a BRZ, its abit squeezy
quasi mantle
Shame that GR Supra has smaller trunk lol, which won't fly for daily driver (read: carrying packed drum kit)
Otherwise I'd pick GR Supra due to its HP
pearl elk
Well I wouldnt count on those rear seats in the 86 unless your friends are babies lol
quasi mantle
Surely 2 front seat is enough for me and a girl, right
cursive crypt
*pillow you mean
quasi mantle
Back seats can be for putting stuff
pearl elk
Not sure you'll fit a drum kit in an 86 tbh
cursive crypt
๐ฅ
pearl elk
Probably want a hatchback so you got the height for the bass and tom toms
cursive crypt
Truck would be better. Have space.
pearl elk
depends on your kit though, if you just got a snare and a hi hat youre all good
Theres a reason why SUVs are the popular choice, as much as I hate to admit it
pearl elk
and this is why I became a DJ, I can fit my usb sticks in my Lambo ๐
quasi mantle
when police have lambo
Imagine it's Need For Speed Hot Pursuit
soft night
the new lambo seren roadster have kinda cool feature
the slight turn on rear wheels when you turn wheels as front wheels what help turns
soft night
your fronts turn as usual but rear turns just small amount
cursive crypt
I see. I can imagine the rear sliding, but if it is a small angle, is good probably.
pearl elk
Im not a fan of the lights on the Sian
two flux capacitors and it still cant time travel
soft night
its perhaps 5degree what it turns
cursive crypt
huh, my old car turns 5 degrees on random and is much cheaper - meh
cursive crypt
Ganbatte ๐ช
pearl elk
Well this script stuff is awesome, allows me to make functions in the global namespace
There is quite alot of messing about with UE on where you put things, making little classes just to override 1 or 2 functions. This seems like it'll make managing it slightly easier
cursive crypt
Still lost, but do your best
soft night
https://detective.kusto.io/ the kusto
pearl elk
Query Language
soft night
the kusto query language
cursive crypt
Weird site, ngl
pearl elk
I feel like this is a MS thing
soft night
they say its sql users next big thing
zinc matrix
Why there is no Emoji :Thanks: ?
quasi mantle
Why there is no Emoji :Thanks: ?
pearl elk
they say its sql users next big thing
SQL or MSSQL ๐
zinc matrix
<:thanks_blob:1018872232338018384>
Why can't I use it ?
cursive crypt
quasi mantle
Why can't I use it ?
Try again
soft night
mons SQL as query language
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/data-explorer/kusto/query/sqlcheatsheet how those 2 differs
soft night
is it hug QL?
primal summit
HeheQL only accepts jokes.
cursive crypt
pearl elk
thin aspen
Time to play forspoken
ivory lodge
I can't tell my pacman apart from original pacman:
gloomy inlet
Hehe has a question
for outdoor to get a evening/dark mood u just mess up with sun position and the rest of sky/light components follow suite
but what about an indoor place that doesn't have point/spot/rect lights
i mean how do games manage to have a consistent light throughout all indoor places without obvious artificial lights?
mess around with exposure or there is something else
cursive crypt
Hehe can ask on the UE help channels, like #ue5-general , #lighting , #graphics
Postprocess, static lights and etc are solutions e.g.
gloomy inlet
oh hehe is the wrong place
I got used to being here
well Hehe prefers to stay here than venture into the unknown so my question will stay unanswered
cursive crypt
Hehe may find new friends on new places
gloomy inlet
bad idea
Hehe made friends with AU and AU left
If Hehe makes more friends they'll leave
zinc matrix
hi, do you use the plugin "send to unreal"?
I have a little issue. Basically when I export an object that has shapekeys assigned to bones with drivers, they do not activate when the bone moves.
Instead if I export FBX with the blender exprt options it works
gloomy inlet
nice name
zinc matrix
Do you know why the "send to unreal" does not work? thanks
cursive crypt
sus nickname
dense vale
You didnt use any VCS?
VCS?
dense vale
Well
I have over half a terrabyte of unreal projects ๐
I had to hard reset my pc
Because of various reasons
I thought I backed them all up
But I forgot this one
Which has been completely overwritten in the reset
night grove
Even more of a reason to have a backup system in place that you have tested
dense vale
I have a backup of every project
night grove
It sucks, but most of us have been in your shoes in some capacity
night grove
Hope you can recover!
dense vale
I basically just started over from scrap
night grove
Maybe V2 will be better?
dense vale
Should be
I'm also gonna be using some more store bought assets to speed things up
But ty for the support
night grove
Data loss can be catastrophic
dense vale
yeah
night grove
I really need to move a backup of my project offsite
dense vale
I do have a dedicated drive for unreal now
Tho it's already over half the capacity on day one but yeaaaa
night grove
That helps, but at a minimum you want serious projects on 2 different computers
Source control is really the best way to do it, because it offers more than just backup
Whole new workflows open up with it
You can do risky destructive experiments because you can always just revert if they don't pan out
night grove
Essentially it is a database you store your project on
There are some cloud services available to do it, yes
dense vale
Sadly I don't really have the budget for that tho
night grove
I don't use cloud services myself
I have a spare computer with perforce on it
Technically you could do it on something like a raspberry Pi, though it would be a little icky
night grove
That's perfect! I've used old laptops as build / source control before
But if the hardware fails, it really hurts
dense vale
I do have a raspberry pi as well
night grove
Essentially source control is a database that you can copy your project to
But it isn't like a file browser
You choose files to track
Then you periodically choose to update the files
The source control server keep copies of all versions
Kind of an oversimplification of what it does, but thats the gist
night grove
Can be
dense vale
Or no wait
night grove
Depends on how much churn you have on binary assets
night grove
Text is really cheap because it just keeps the "diff" of the versiions
dense vale
I'm pretty sure I can make something like that myself ngl
I just have to find this hardware piece back
this is actually a pretty nice project idea ngl
ty for the info
night grove
Perforce is free to use for one user and Git is opensource
I highly recommend you pick one and use that and not try to "roll your own"
There are some very nuanced problems
night grove
It can get very complicated very quickly, but there are very good resources on it
A whole career path of "dev ops" centers around deploying systems like that for teams
But you can get something setup for yourself in about 15 minutes that is plenty adequate
I believe the current perforce license allows up to 5 users for free, but it is expensive when you go over that amount
zinc matrix
Time to play forspoken
I'll wait until they release it for free in Epic Store ๐
zinc matrix
<:ChupaHoops:959588096356274186>
Come on Miss Magician - share your secret....
i used a particle emitter from an unreal 4 project into an unreal 5.1 project and the particles are cubes
how do I fix that?
zinc matrix
how do I fix that?
I guess there is ultimate solution for any artist #lounge message
thanks
night grove
I guess there is ultimate solution for any artist https://discord.com/channels/1...
Hey artists can't claim exclusivity for that workflow!
zinc matrix
do you use the plugin "send to unreal"?
night grove
My variant results in keycaps from my keyboard... getting detached and distant
night grove
Can't hide the real name!
warm bloom
zinc matrix
I am new to unreal engine, Basically I followed a youtube tutorial on how to use the animation blueprint and Imported my character, it works
but I got an issue for the "send to unreal" plugin
Also, I discovered too late that unreal engine is not a great option for a mobile game, anyway, I like it I keep it.
gloomy inlet
Is your game about defying anal
zinc matrix
its about a dog that is fat
lyric pulsar
queen isle
zinc matrix
Any good podcast on unreal engine or c++?
I followed on on c++ but I was learning zero
boreal moss
https://www.sfu.ca/content/sfu/publishing/news/editorials/podcasting-and-digital...
cant relate
primal summit
podcasts are probably the wrong tool for either job
the best way to learn a language is by doing, so tutorials are good, and a lot of newbie unreal engine is learning the tool, which is graphical
zinc matrix
I listenedto a podcast on history of china, that was somehow useful
primal summit
completely different subject
zinc matrix
I want my ears filled with information 24/24
primal summit
supplement with practice and filling your eyes too
zinc matrix
I am following a tutorial on the animation blueprint
magically I made it work, amazin
boreal moss
I thought this only worked on dumb humans
seems like we are all dumb, animals included
primal summit
smart cat
primal summit
magically I made it work, amazin
that's the problem with free (and some paid) content... they show you how, they don't teach you what...
fleet tangle
https://loginportal.funnyjunk.com/hdgifs/Ferocious+waggish+colorful_b854c4_10217...
Clever cat!
quaint basalt
How many LoC on your C++ game?
D:\Unreal Games\Wars [master +11 ~0 -0 | +0 ~28 -0 !]> cloc 'D:\Unreal Games\Wars\Source'
120 text files.
120 unique files.
0 files ignored.
github.com/AlDanial/cloc v 1.96 T=0.08 s (1563.7 files/s, 108236.9 lines/s)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Language files blank comment code
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C++ 58 984 837 3345
C/C++ Header 59 762 360 1959
C# 3 11 7 41
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUM: 120 1757 1204 5345
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You should not have spaces in your directory names.
It will cause many problems.
Having to install perl. Skips.
zinc matrix
hi I am following a tutorial. I am setting up the animation of my character with a statemachine, and at some point the guy uses a blendspace 1d accessible from the animation blueprint option, he is using unreal 4 and I am using 5.1, I only have access to the blendspace but its not 1d
no I found it
Its under "Legacy". I suppose something changed, I will hav to figure it out later on
thick oracle
It _will_ cause _many_ problems.
Even better: unicode characters
fleet tangle
I was hoping that was just console fluff, rather than part of the actual directory.
slim atlas
I realize now that my game is quite... gory
painting ships with blood as ritual
crushing peoples heads with heavy shields
slicing of their arms and heads...
fleet tangle
Doesn't germany frown on that sort of thing?
To the point where games have to replace people with zombies?
slim atlas
my game is literally blood fanatic
i am so proud-.
The Traitors will burn and the hypocrites will be punished.
slim atlas
there was some good drama in #ue4-general
quasi mantle
there was some good drama in <#225448446956404738>
fleet tangle
That's what happens when you have people blocked.
fleet tangle
I can't imagine what Laura's view of #lounge was. Literally just 1 message every few hours and 900 blocked messages.
fleet tangle
Nobody knows.
regal pecan
Must've gotten a real GPU finally.
quasi mantle
only in insane cases
I block people when it's getting annoying
Dude spitting out nonsensical shit for that much
quasi mantle
Nah, I'm not keen on using plugins/BetterDiscord
Though I do use BetterDiscord in my VM
night grove
What is BetterDiscord?
unreal ether
Discord, but better
night grove
I stopped coming to discord much for a few months (busy), and come back to a bunch of lousy discord popup ads
Was hoping better discord gets rid of those
thick oracle
You mean the change logs?
remote orbit
fleet tangle
That reminds me of GTA 1 for some reason.
remote orbit
fathom wadi
reminds me of syndicate wars
remote orbit
@buoyant sequoia Look at the bottom and you can see the overlapping geo that should not be there
zinc matrix
I followed the tutorial of he animation blueprint. I cannot do the landing animation yet, but I will learn
the result
fleet tangle
It's doing that idle animation too soon and repeating too quickly.
zinc matrix
yes its a miracle that its working, now I follow a tutorial on how to do the landscape
quasi mantle
I followed the tutorial of he animation blueprint. I cannot do the landing anima...
I'm kinda picky about animation (that's what I'm working with), as stated, the idle/scratching animation repeats too quickly
You should have a still idle animation with montages of idle fidgeting animations playing every few seconds
fathom wadi
im picky about animation too. I pick someone else to do it for me.
zinc matrix
I made only 1 blendspace
In theory you can blend 2 animations I did 1
Its very nice, but now I have to follow tutorial on landscape
hey how much space does an unreal game occupies in disk space? I am aiming at mobile
quasi mantle
hey how much space does an unreal game occupies in disk space? I am aiming at mo...
Dependsโข๏ธ
fleet tangle
You can strip back UE to take about 60-70MB on mobile if you know what you're doing.
zinc matrix
I wanted to use 2 or 3 atlases for textures and 1 material for the main character (the dog)
fleet tangle
I imagine most mobile games go into the GBs.
zinc matrix
yes most mobile games are very big
I was hoping to go under 30 megabytes
If its not possible its not possible. anyway, I am using the "mobile" preset. I hope that adding abit of fresnel on the material will not impact performances too much
zinc matrix
Another question
fleet tangle
If you know how to get it smaller, you don't need to ask ๐
fleet tangle
Because the original release on the marketplace has to be under a certain size.
zinc matrix
So if you have many blocks you can reuse textures, right?
fleet tangle
So they can 1) Add more data after installing and b) Sell you that data.
zinc matrix
I was sayig that people use blocks to compose the environment
quasi mantle
I was hoping to go under 30 megabytes
Nah, not possible. Smaller UE games are within 70 MB
Same goes with Unity, really.
fleet tangle
If you want a really small mobile game, write it directly in java.
zinc matrix
have you ever implemented monetization and SDKs?
quasi mantle
have you ever implemented monetization and SDKs?
You mean evil plans to suck up people's wallets?
quasi mantle
Just go aggressive with the lootboxes/gacha, though you have to make sure it really sells
zinc matrix
you have to be realist, if your game is atrociously bad and you suck too much, then you have to milk people with a scam. It is my case so I study how to analgape people with mobile scams
quasi mantle
These days you can't sell lootboxes without anime waifu sales pitch
zinc matrix
ok but how is it possible to implement an SDK if they give you code to insert in the android app?
I suppose the android app will have to be edited inside android studio, how do I code this inside unreal to give info to the SDK? Is there somebody that can help me? Maybe if I ask to the people that do the SDK they will give me instructions
fathom wadi
You can strip back UE to take about 60-70MB on mobile if you know what you're do...
is that even still possible with 5.1? I mean I haven't seen the 50mb builds for ages now
zinc matrix
well if its not possible I will just increase the size, I saw nobody complaining if a game is 200 megabytes
quasi mantle
is that even still possible with 5.1? I mean I haven't seen the 50mb builds for...
No, UE5 smallest is 70 MB
fathom wadi
I would have expected more than that. Perhaps 200mb by now but 70mb is amazing still
quasi mantle
UE4 used to be possible to reach 40 MB, but it's a dumb tool inside with barely any assets
fathom wadi
yeah I remember those days when people were reducing it for the SnG's
zinc matrix
what is an engine 3D that makes very tiny games?
fathom wadi
Hero Engine
zinc matrix
I am still in time to change, but I will surely use Unreal for my desktop game
fathom wadi
you won't change now. UE is the best. Choosing anything else is like crapping in your own bed to see if the sheets change colour
quasi mantle
what is an engine 3D that makes very tiny games?
Make your own from scratch
zinc matrix
I am not intelligent enough
quasi mantle
Also FWIW mobile games these days are around 300 MB smallest
zinc matrix
damn
fathom wadi
intelligence has nothing to do with it really. Will power and persistence > all
zinc matrix
well since I already have to make music and animations and 3D models I was thinking that using a game engine made by somebody else was fair
fleet tangle
what is an engine 3D that makes very tiny games?
https://youtu.be/S8pDKnfLzTc?t=90 (64 kilobyte "games"!)
fathom wadi
you only need 64k after all !
fleet tangle
There are full games with the 64kb demo scene.
zinc matrix
I am nt expert but for the PC game I was going for this size for characters: 75k vertices for the main character. Enemies from 3k up to 12k vertices. Is it OK?
quasi mantle
https://youtu.be/S8pDKnfLzTc?t=90 (64 _**kilobyte**_ "games"!)
*not counting low level compression algorithm, procgen stuff including using OS resources
quasi mantle
I am nt expert but for the PC game I was going for this size for characters: 75k...
That's lopsided IMO
fathom wadi
I am nt expert but for the PC game I was going for this size for characters: 75k...
poly count is irrelevant these days. Draw calls are the devil.
zinc matrix
I downloaded uneral tournament 3 nd I noticed that the characters were around 15k vertices each, so after having googled abit, people told me that I could have used the resolution I wanted, but if I have many characters I should prefer lower resolution
fathom wadi
it doesnt matter how many polys the models have. You could put a billion polys in UE and it wouldn't do much to it aside from a memory footprint
zinc matrix
So I decided to do massive resolution for the main character and lower resolution for all the other characters. And also study how to make a giant nanite because I am free to create
quasi mantle
So I decided to do massive resolution for the main character and lower resolutio...
Eh, Nanite isn't a silver bullet
zinc matrix
Can I use the hair particles inside of a game or I should prefer the hair cards or hair curves?
fathom wadi
all 3
hair for close up with one or two characters. cards for the majority at medium distance. Hair Mesh for distant
zinc matrix
Online people told me "bro, just use hair particles". I was thinking I needed the hair cards
fathom wadi
using hair particles is fine for a couple of characters. But you can't use it all the time. It needs proper level of detail
zinc matrix
I decided to do a Manual LOD, basically the character got eyelashes for the main geometry and I replaced them with another shape for the distant LOD
You help me alot, thanks
quasi mantle
Online people told me "bro, just use hair particles". I was thinking I needed th...
Don't go with hearsay without making decisions to your project specifics
Sure, all those cool features are there, but does your project really needs it?
fathom wadi
yep always double check with an expert, like we have here, and pay us for advice. Paypal accepted.
quasi mantle
No NFT and crypto though
zinc matrix
I am just doing tests to see what I can do. I dont see any other way. FOr me its not a problem to create a character just for 1 test. This is teh character I will use for the next test
fathom wadi
i dont mind nfts. as long as its one of those booby pics
heh she looks like she stole her hips from a horse.
zinc matrix
well, I think I got a method to create much better armatures.
I learned new things in the meantime, mostly on how to do "hard surface" models.
fathom wadi
i only do hard surface modelling. never tried organic stuff
zinc matrix
My assumption is that people want to see ass jiggle and titsbounce in a game, they will forget minor issues if the titsbounce is decent
quasi mantle
Hard surface modelling in Blender is my nightmare 
fathom wadi
I wanted to do a human model recently but the idea of spending months on something bothers me at this time
quasi mantle
My assumption is that people want to see ass jiggle and titsbounce in a game, th...
Give a good photo mode and you'll get my approval. I'm expert on that kind of stuff
zinc matrix
I discovered what is "hard surface" recently, they gave it this name, its basically like doing fusion360 in blender, but abit worse because you lack the tools to do it properly
zinc matrix
Give a good photo mode and you'll get my approval. I'm expert on that kind of st...
Do I bother you if I ask you about it? Not today obviously, I have something else to do
fathom wadi
Hard surface modelling in Blender is my nightmare <:NotLikeKotoha:95957291697715...
I'm not a modeller so I can't say much about if I prefer blender or not. But it took me a long time to move away from 3dsm and I would say the amount of boolean ops and bevels as the only content they update the app with, im sure its better ๐
quasi mantle
Do I bother you if I ask you about it? Not today obviously, I have something els...
No problem 
zinc matrix
thanks bro
Isnt it curious, we got high refresh rate display but no game is fast enough to justify it.
I was thinking, maybe if I do a boomer shooter that is very very fast, I will have a reason to use a high refresh rate display
fathom wadi
im still on 60hz monitor and its good enough for me. I'm in my late 40's and eyesight is going so no need ๐
fleet tangle
My "chat" monitor is 60hz.
fathom wadi
there is a physical cap on what you need anyway, not just for eyesight but human reaction time for frame related input accuracy
fleet tangle
My primary is 144.
zinc matrix
yes I can understand. I got a legolas level eyesight but I dont see a big reason to use a high refresh display
fleet tangle
If you can't tell the difference between 60 and 120+, your eyesight isn't legolas level.
I wear ridiculously strong glasses and am almost blind in 1 eye and I can tell the difference.
zinc matrix
I can tell the difference if you pressure me to watch detailed comparison and pay attention to details
but normally I would not even care
fathom wadi
i didnt mean that it doesnt look different. I meant in the gaming sense. The difference between 50hz and 60hz is massive to me. 60hz to 144hz is massive too
zinc matrix
I mean, for me its more an issue of "caring about it", infact I dont
I think we need a boomer shooter to appreciate the speed
fleet tangle
Caring about it
Totally agree! If 60hz is fine, go for it.
That's why I have a 60hz side monitor for discord and the occasional web browser.
fathom wadi
the input accuracy of a human is the issue for me. When I am at my peak input accuray for an FPS I'm hitting around 20ms reaction time. But that's peak. Some of these pro gamers go as low at 5ms but they are the best of the best. The sale of these monitors to FPS shooter gamerboys is a scam for more people who are average or below average reaction time/muscle memory
zinc matrix
I still have to discover how to make clothing that you can select, when I will have the method I will do low poly variants of clothing for characters. Digital clothing can be sold
fathom wadi
not to mention the tick rate of servers for data but thats another issue
fleet tangle
It's not about reaction time.
fathom wadi
accuracy
fleet tangle
or accuracy
fathom wadi
ahh right what is it then?
fleet tangle
For games, specifically, it's about the latency between inputting controls and reactions happening on screen.
Having low fps/refresh rates makes it feel uncomfortable
fathom wadi
is that not what I just said?
zinc matrix
Hey I saw a message on the unreal engine settings, when I was configuring the keys to press
They say "axis mapping is deprecated"
Where is the other newer thing?
fleet tangle
Oh. You mean monitor reaction? I thougth you meant like human reaction time! Apologies.
zinc matrix
I cannot see it
celest musk
enhanced input system, it uses special assets for inputs
fathom wadi
yeah the human side of it has to be matched by accuracy in the input capability
zinc matrix
a new thing
fleet tangle
It's not about human reaction times at all.
zinc matrix
amazin
fathom wadi
well it is. there is a correlation between how well the human reacts. The input isn't happening itself without variables
celest musk
no
it's about how quick the game reacts to your inputs
which feels more natural with a short delay
fleet tangle
Human reaction time is how about quickly humans react to stimuli. The issue is how quickly the game and image on screen reaction to your input.
fathom wadi
yes and what comes first? the human input or the game reacting?
celest musk
the input
zinc matrix
I got a screen that is fast, I dont know how much, it should be one of those rated "for gaming"
But my screen is not on the high range
If I cannot have a boomer shooter then I do not care
fleet tangle
You can watch a movie in 24 fps or whatever because you aren't actively inputting anything to change it. It's just a set sequence of images.
You try playing a game at that fps and you'll stop pretty quickly.
celest musk
which is why we have hardware mouse cursors for example ๐
zinc matrix
some slow games were made to cover the 24fps
for example non boomer shooter games are very slow and boring becuase they were made for consoles of the past, that were used to run at 24fps maximum
newer consoles are very fast
fleet tangle
Games that don't have instant reaction to input are fine. Like you don't need a board game to run at 200fps if all you do is click buttons.
zinc matrix
I saw a playstation 5, it was very good
fleet tangle
FPS games where you have smooth control over your look direction are awful at low fps because of that delayed reaction to your input.
zinc matrix
I am a boomer shooter guy
fleet tangle
Me too. Doom was my first! (The original)
zinc matrix
I dont like games that are slow and boring.
fleet tangle
Yeah. Mostly the ones before you had mouse controls and just used the keyboard ๐
zinc matrix
my first boomer shooter was serious sam and then I got into unreal tournament 3, I never played doom
I like also painkiller and shadow warrior
now I downloaded fortnite and I am learning how to make a game that has success
fathom wadi
learn the Lyra project.
fleet tangle
Or don't, if you value your sanity ๐
regal pecan
Event A happens at 60 hz. It takes 17ms to draw, 20ms to react. The response is shown on frame four at 67ms.
Event B happens at 120hz. It takes 8ms to draw, 20ms to react, and the response is shown on frame four (33 ms) or five (42ms).
Not a bad difference considering.
zinc matrix
what is lyra? seems a demo
fathom wadi
it's a framework for making games.
what you see there is a Gameplay Ability Plugin called Shootergame. Made as a modular entity on top of the Lyra core files
zinc matrix
very interesting
fathom wadi
it's odd that the path to learning UE has typically led to the first variant, which is free developing. You can get away with allsorts. But then when you want multiplayer you realise that way is horrible (liberating but horrible) for large projects. So you go from the multiplayer best practice and you end up with cleaner projects and games.
But now we have Lyra, which puts the best practice into everything from the gameplay ability system through to the modularity of every component and using pre-written functionality for cross-platform capability like CommonUI. Now you are forced into a specific best practice without much room to step outside of the box (you can but it gets rough). If I were to start UE from scratch, I'd be learning this. Even though it's tough to get into at first because its hard to see the way everything links up as it's so granular in it's modularity.
zinc matrix
I didnt know there were procedural assets
quasi mantle
very interesting
Lyra is basically dumbed down templatized version of Fortnite
fathom wadi
it's too complicated if you use it for one game only, that doesn't get updated a lot, if at all. But if you want a game as a service, or to be able to try out new things in a non-destructive way, and you are going to make more games... its the best thing we have right now.
quasi mantle
Though in my case I don't touch Lyra at all
It's either figuring stuff out on the go or use what I made since UE4 lol
fathom wadi
yeah its a lot of discovery. Sometimes feels like its wasting dev time but over time that discovery gets less and less and it becomes second nature. Don't even need to figure crap out half the time. Just go on autopilot.
zinc matrix
My idea for titsbounce: Option 1 ragdoll the mesh, add some "morph targets" like "tit left" and "tit right" and "tit down", so on, and blend between them. Option 2, use bone physics, any addon will do. Option 3: use only bones to activate some states of shapekeys, derived from a proxy mesh simulation of cloth.
celest musk
at the point you should care about boob physics, you wouldn't need to ask that question
zinc matrix
I care about it from the start
I will just know more about it
If I progress more, I wll know even more about it
celest musk
there's 100 tutorials about that on youtube
fathom wadi
control rig would be a good place to start. Make a new node called "PervPhysics"
quasi mantle
In my case I got breasts physics running once I got skelmesh physics working at all.
zinc matrix
I made a character with large breasts because its important
fathom wadi
it's not really boob physics until you have thrown in collagen and plastic coefficients in there.
zinc matrix
we follow unrealism
quasi mantle
I mean, I'm also developing mature (17+) game with large breasted girl as the main character, but IMO no need to overthink about it
fathom wadi
as long as they ain't slapping into the face you are good. Although an option for that would suit the niche market
zinc matrix
I do not overthink, I already know all the methods to do it in blender and I tried to do it in unreal immediately
fathom wadi
control rig is where I'd do it
quasi mantle
As for why my game having it myself, it's one of the anime trope I decided to make fun of. No real significance to story
fathom wadi
bear in mind, id do it there for the technical interest, not best suitability. Never done boobs tbh.
fleet tangle
That's begging for a sarcastic reply.
zinc matrix
well other than unreal engine I have other skills to learn
I decided to give priority to unreal engine and music
fathom wadi
thats what I did
zinc matrix
So basically I learn also music, or else I will not be able to do games
fathom wadi
but music not for games. Just for fun
queen isle
has any game shipped using lumen and nanite yet? its been out for a while
zinc matrix
I discovered tht the genre used in unreal tournament 3 was called "breakbeat"
I will ship with nanite for sure if I discover what it is
fathom wadi
has any game shipped using lumen and nanite yet? its been out for a while
Callisto Protocol did
zinc matrix
are there courses for asset creation? I hate to discover things when I finished an asset
fathom wadi
there is documentation for workflows on the Epic site
it doesnt cover everything but then it couldn't possibly.
quasi mantle
So basically I learn also music, or else I will not be able to do games
I'd say music for backup plan
I also play drums
quasi mantle
has any game shipped using lumen and nanite yet? its been out for a while
Fortnite
fathom wadi
i used to play guitar, bass guitar, but now I play piano
zinc matrix
I tried banjo but i am not very good with it
quasi mantle
Callisto Protocol did
Nope, Callisto Protocol is UE4
fathom wadi
damn they made it look like ue5
quasi mantle
damn they made it look like ue5
With baked lighting and high fidelity assets, it sure look like one.
fathom wadi
nope
quasi mantle
never heard of it, is it a indie game?
Yeah, made by small indie company called Epic Games.
It's their first game apparently
fathom wadi
thats Unreal
quasi mantle
ikr
queen isle
How nice, people's first games are usually rough. Maybe their next one will be popular.
fathom wadi
callisto protocol actually reminded me of the concept of the second game I worked on. It was set in an abandoned "ghost ship" in space. Horror style rogue where you had to kill aliens and infected crew members. was made with udk
quasi mantle
lol
zinc matrix
for my pc game, this is the story: 2 boob sisters are blackmailed by a crab god, they have to find a droplet of water to enter a seashell
fleet tangle
Normally it'd be 2 boob sisters coming out of their shell.
quasi mantle
Weird that it supposed to have story 
zinc matrix
its based on sumerian mythology
fathom wadi
I hope you will include the backstory on the nipples. I mean, got to include the nipples right?
there is no Zuul
fleet tangle
It's about this time you wonder why Laura left the server ๐
zinc matrix
the gods can have a bad personality so its OK if a god blackmails your main character
fathom wadi
laura left the server?
fleet tangle
About a week ago now?
fathom wadi
ah. Well probably get more done than idling around slackers ๐
celest musk
maybe fluffybunnies is laura's alt account
quasi mantle
I don't know but it sounds lamer than the story of someone getting trapped in another world and getting involved into politics just to sustain life in another world
zinc matrix
Frankly I dont care much about the story
I was thinking that the story is here just to cover my inadequate skills
quasi mantle
tfw you doing bounty hunting just to make money while you find a way to get back home, then get involved in kingdom vs empire politics
zinc matrix
If I am a bad developer I will just use story to cover my deficiencies
quasi mantle
tfw you doing bounty hunting just to make money while you find a way to get back...
also your old friend got involved as well
fathom wadi
what if you are a bad story writer too?
quasi mantle
I am not bad
You don't need to be a good storywriter to make erotic movie
fathom wadi
not if a guy is watching it thats true
fleet tangle
Men of Culture โข๏ธ always enjoy the story more!
celest musk
you don't need to be a good story writer to make any kind of movie
a lot of blockbusters are proof of that
a good one on the other hand....
zinc matrix
I am 1 guy, I can use lots of schizophrenia skills to quadruple my efforts, but I will not be able to learn "storytelling"
fathom wadi
I remember precisely two stories from adult movies I've seen. One was the first I saw, the other is a Batman parody I watched with the wife once. It was so funny that one of the lines stuck and became a recurring joke for us ๐
zinc matrix
Usually when someone mentions a skills I have no means to attain I simply do without, thinking that it doesnt exists
For example, somebody mentioned that there is a thing named "composition", I decided it does not exists and I dont care about it
zinc matrix
Somebody mentioned "character design", I decided it does not exists
I cannot learn every thing that random people mention
fathom wadi
you can try get a bit of knowledge about everything tho. It helps you discuss with other developers
zinc matrix
I learned most of the terminology pertaining to animation
I noticed that animation has fewer terms but they all refer to real things
Instead pseud things like "composition" are way more vague, abstract, and in my view useless
fleet tangle
Composition is a real thing.
fathom wadi
depends on the context. If you were making a movie and were just slapping a camcorder around without thought, it would be shit right? You compose a scene. It's how you create your vision.
fleet tangle
Abstraction is fairly abstract! ๐
zinc matrix
its like that thing "character design", I can do it with closed eyes
I decided to invent new terms that people dont know about
I have a thing that is called "the techboard"
fathom wadi
is that like a cheeseboard but with a bunch of pc hardware to chew on instead?
zinc matrix
I dont know I go learn some music
fathom wadi
remember. the notes you dont care about do not exist.
zinc matrix
I think that music is like 3D modeling, people tell you about lots of things but most dont exist
I thikn I will just learn abit of music theory and forget about the topics for pseuds, I always do this and it works, I focus on things of absolute importance and forget the rest
celest musk
end of day you end up with what the theory would've told you
fathom wadi
well when I learned to play guitar originally people would tell me about modes and how different modes apply to different styles of music, and I ignored them because I played by ear. Problem there is, I was never reaching anywhere near my potential by thinking I knew better and ignoring them. By the time I realised this I had so many bad habits. Now I'm learning piano and taking all the music theory on board. Even to the point I'm trying to learn to sight read music.
wish I had done that back when I was 18 tho.
celest musk
yea but i think it's quite common for young people to go the trial and error approach
since theory can be overwhelming when you are young and confronted with a complex topic
it seems easier then to just start with something
fathom wadi
yeah its not like I was useless. But when I was 18 I was a rebel without a clue. Just jamming in a garage band, playing death metal and getting wasted ๐
quasi mantle
Honestly, I still learning more drumming techniques by learning from music theories
Even if I started off as just imitating the records
celest musk
and now i'm sitting here with UE and can't find any theory covering my problem ๐
wish boobs physics was my problem
zinc matrix
In the field of 3D modeling people tell you about lots of things for pseuds, you can safely ignore them. Same should be for every topic
quasi mantle
Recorded drummers employ those tricks maybe even without themselves realizing, but you may struggle not knowing what is actually happening
zinc matrix
I got into animation and I quickly discovered where is the true value
celest musk
in the keyframes?
zinc matrix
Basicallly some concepts are useful, but most are irrelevant and used by pseuds
fathom wadi
I've been watching some drummers recently. My fave is Terry Bozzio. I just found a guy whilst watching the Buddy Rich tribute show who is utterly amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDizNLFHCv0
fathom wadi
Basicallly some concepts are useful, but most are irrelevant and used by pseuds
animation goes real deep. Have you read any books on animation like Disney's 12 principles?
zinc matrix
I have attempted to read a book named "the animation survival guide", but the author spends 90 pages talking about how good he is and how everybody around him is bad, and how he solves the situation all the time, I figured out that hes a fraud and he steals from others, he mentioned he asked his assistant to do the intermediary frames
When one thinks hes better than other people, and spends 90 pages mounting his ego, I cannot proceed further in the book
fathom wadi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Animation:_The_Illusion_of_Life this is one to read.
fleet tangle
I like how they did some stuff back in the day, actually using real people on film and animating characters over the top of them. Aka the first rotoscoping.
Well, maybe not first.
zinc matrix
I got a nice course for animation called "alive"
Its around 200 hours of content, but it is good
I am at chapter 3, but its hard because I like to create a character from scratch every time, but I learned some useful things
Also I learned lots of things observing artists doing their job in video.
fathom wadi
I'm someone who has technical knowledge of animation but when it comes to realistic animations I either suck or take 10x longer than it should. I can use the tools no problem, been using them since Flash days, but even a simple animation of climbing a ladder takes a certain amount of knowledge of how the body works kinetically/inversely and adding those subtle little nuances each body shape has. It's something I admire about a good animator. I know they have taken so much time and love to put into their work.
bleak remnant
How'd you guys get good with shaders?
I REALLY want to learn how to use shaders but I'm just really not seeing any good starting places
I want to use them for godot
fleet tangle
Ask in a godot server then? ๐ฆ
bleak remnant
Ask in a godot server then? ๐ฆ
They don't think there when typing
Yep this is why I didn't bother
fleet tangle
I mean, those chose Godot. They can't be all that good at things! ๐
I sound like such a ue suck up.
bleak remnant
I mean, those chose Godot. They can't be all that good at things! ๐
I said that too then I became addicted to making 20 diff Undertale projects
Ever try to make undertale in unreal?
I'd pay money to see someone do that ๐
fleet tangle
Tbh, I don't even remember what undertale is.
Screenshots from google make it seem fairly straight forward.
bleak remnant
Screenshots from google make it seem fairly straight forward.
Yes, but creating a type of game like that in unreal is just straight up pain
fleet tangle
Why?
bleak remnant
I can't do multiple things that are shown here in unreal
fleet tangle
Like what?
bleak remnant
I can't do the making so the hearts don't render outside the box, I can't do that red type WHILE it's doing rpg typing, I can't do any type of individual shaking text
fleet tangle
That's a you problem..?
bleak remnant
Huh?
fleet tangle
That's entirely possible.
fleet tangle
Well the hearts is a simple scissor rectangle, the rpg typing you can do with a rich text block and some processing to get it per letter.
As for the individual shaking text... erm. Each letter shakes independently?!
bleak remnant
Afaik there's no built in letter shake in unreal
bleak remnant
You've been off lately
fleet tangle
If you want individual shaking letters, I could do it easily in Slate. I don't use UMG, so shrug
broken sigil
All of that is pretty achievable in UE
fleet tangle
In fact, it might even make the rich text/rpg text easier.
bleak remnant
Ok but what about framerates
bleak remnant
In fact, it might even make the rich text/rpg text easier.
It's quite literally built into godot
fleet tangle
So that's got a +1 over UE then!
But like, it's not hard to do.
I would use a text input with some markup, convert it to a letter array, each with a style and then render each letter individually using the raw drawelement stuff. If you wanted text shake, then add a local offset per letter based on some algorithm.
Without the text shake stuff, a literally rich textbox would do.
bleak remnant
I sound like such a ue suck up.
Just gotta refer back to this
You are broken though if you actually think it'd be a better idea to make undertale in unreal engine than godot
Or like any rpg game for that matter
fleet tangle
I mean, it'd be pretty easy.
celest musk
so shaking letters is where godot and ue users part?
bleak remnant
so shaking letters is where godot and ue users part?
No
Everything I say is just gonna be countered by a "technically" so why bother
fleet tangle
Maybe Godot has a leg up in the "let's make a bad (stylised/pixel art) graphics 2d game" race, but I've never really used paper2d, so I'm not sure how that stuff compares.
celest musk
technically you are not wrong, but....
bleak remnant
technically you are not wrong, but....
Literally every single engine can do whatever it wants if you manually code it so it's not a real argument
fleet tangle
It's not a technically argument. You asked for a tl;dr. I gave you a pretty simple solution to all your issues and now you're being a bitch about it.
celest musk
isn't shaking letter just some bitmap font texture rendering with some wobbly vertex shader
broken sigil
Lets keep the conversation civil
fleet tangle
Plus the fact I'm freely admitting that Godot might be better at doing a game like this right now because UE is missing text shake features and is more aimed at 3d stuff.
bleak remnant
isn't shaking letter just some bitmap font texture rendering with some wobbly ve...
"[shake rate=50 level=2] word[/shake]"
celest musk
where? in 2d space?
fleet tangle
That's markup, not what it does under the hood.
bleak remnant
That's markup, not what it does under the hood.
Who cares what it does under the hood lmao
celest musk
if you would care what's under the hood you might pull it off yourself in any engine
fleet tangle
You're trying to counter what he said and I'm telling you that that's probably exactly what happens under the hood.
bleak remnant
if you would care what's under the hood you might pull it off yourself in any en...
I know exactly what it does, why bother though
celest musk
๐คท
bleak remnant
I tried so hard to make undertale work in unreal btw
celest musk
why did this convo even come up then?
bleak remnant
Because I said godot is actually pretty good
fleet tangle
You can't have tried that hard if you can't do image clipping and shaking text.
celest musk
i think no one said that it's bad
and those who do, well ignore them?!
apparently godot has the toolset you need for your game
so why bother with arguments?
bleak remnant
and those who do, well ignore them?!
Because unlike everyone else here I actually just do want to talk but people just think I'm out to get them or something so start name calling
celest musk
well ok
my point was just that this is also possible in UE, and probably with little effort if you know what to do
looking at the docs, there already seems to be a texture sample for fonts, too https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.1/Images/designing-visuals-rendering-and-graphics/materials/material-expressions/font/font-sample-expression.webp
fleet tangle
Yeah.
bleak remnant
Yes
fleet tangle
UE has 2 font types, one is prerendered glyps and one is vector-based stuff.
bleak remnant
I looked it all up
fleet tangle
The prerendered glyphs are pretty awful. ๐ฆ
celest musk
somehow guessed, couldn't they be pretty crisp with SDF, tho!?
fleet tangle
I only really have experience with them when comparing 2d text from glyphs and 3d text generated from the vectors (flat 3d)
celest musk
also working with bitmap fonts is always a little bit a pita unless you use mono space fonts ๐
fleet tangle
The vector stuff is leagues better.
But going back to the bitmap stuff, the font in undertale is a great candidate for a gylph font texture.
bleak remnant
my point was just that this is also possible in UE, and probably with little eff...
Btw I was more of talking about the RichText parsing (Changing colors and stuff), you can't do in that unreal unless you manually code so you can get access every single individual letter yadayada then you would render and toggle the visibility per character
thin aspen
Rocket leagues better?
bleak remnant
No
thin aspen
Or some other game that has leagues in it better?
fleet tangle
Btw I was more of talking about the RichText parsing (Changing colors and stuff)...
Yeah, that's definitely a limitation.
