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pearl elk
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fetch quests, backtracking, the usual

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instead of solving issues they just add mounts/vehicles to scoot past a design problem they created

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Im honestly lost in Destiny 2 though, season 19 and Ive never played it before, the game comes across as severely broken for new players and paywalls everywhere

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typical MMO things though, certain inactive areas are ghost towns and the story is all over the place because its trying to tell you the intro and the latest expansion stuff at the same time

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the worst is this xmas theme town square, oh its terrible

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Hi Northerners... It doesnt snow here for xmas, kthxbye, Southerners!

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meant to be 40c average here next week lol

tulip orbit
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grr

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no fair

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its -30c right now, going up to -10c over the weekend

proud jay
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where

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finland?

tulip orbit
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hawaii

soft night
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it just raining in finland

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so yeah finland

tulip orbit
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we had a nice ice-fog around 3am

proud jay
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damn, didn't know hawaii got that cold

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google says you bamboozle me though

tulip orbit
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what, me lie?

pearl elk
tulip orbit
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no, I'm a landlubber

pearl elk
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Tiver me shimbers

pearl elk
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As much as people complain about AI, it does better art than some "artists" lol

proud jay
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what did you do to dave

cursive crypt
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Just in time πŸ€”

celest musk
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fallout?

cursive crypt
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Man, something I don't have but want 🀞

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Like uuh

celest musk
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or what is it?

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atomic bomberman? πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
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Hey, I remember that one. Fun.

celest musk
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it was one of my favorite games on amiga^^ πŸ˜„

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those where the times

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when you died because the joystick didn't respond

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because the microswitches where worn out...

cursive crypt
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sudden flashbacks

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There were some issues with joysticks in general.

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Holly... just understood my body does not like eggs and canola. Strong immune reaction.

cursive crypt
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wuuuu

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nooo

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I mean, I really like that game, but I got it already/know it.

unborn lotus
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Fallout 1?

silk rain
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Hi, I'm not so sure where to ask this, I can't seem to find the appropriate channel, so I'll ask here.

So, regarding project repositories, I'm currently using TortoiseSVN and at very rare occasions it just breaks and I need to download the whole project again.
So my question is... is there a way I can let the SVN know that I already have the project files downloaded? so that I don't download it again?
(I'm referring to the hidden .svn folder).

If you know the answer, please please @silk rain Tag me.

cursive crypt
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I mean, Fallout 1 is kinda cool and unique. It is the most hard core. Later are kinda comical and with 3 and 4 the tone is different.

unborn lotus
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Yeah fallout 1 was pretty great. I think I abandoned many hours later because of deathclaws πŸ˜…

cursive crypt
hollow dawn
silk rain
honest siren
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AI very advanced, but I have to carry 10 cards with me, this state is very tiring 😒

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I wish there was only one card and the AI ​​knew which card I wanted to use

cursive crypt
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What are you even talking about? πŸ€”

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Punching AI? That new.

honest siren
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Nope id card, credit card etc

cursive crypt
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Beating it, might help, I see now.

honest siren
cursive crypt
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Punch them.

honest siren
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What is this?

cursive crypt
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Need number and a PIN tho

soft night
mossy nexus
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waaaay back in the day I had the pleasure of visiting a computer lab. Had airlocks that blasted air on you to remove dirt and sticky floors to clean your shoes. all the computers were massive things will huge rolls of tape. of course all controlled with punch cards πŸ˜„

honest siren
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Searching for cards in a wallet is tiring

cursive crypt
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*Searching

honest siren
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Thats true, thank you

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there are too many synonyms in english

cursive crypt
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Atompunk

stray orbit
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Back in the days when most programmers were women, because men considered it to be a job for women. Then women started doing cool things with them... next thing you know. 🀣

bleak remnant
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?

honest siren
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I think I will buy this πŸ€“

cursive crypt
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Cache locality.

honest siren
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Pressed the key takes out all the cards like in the picture.

cursive crypt
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Can you shoot someone with that?

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I see, blessed weapon.

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Card hell.

honest siren
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I don't think so, it just makes it visible

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Best sold 2 πŸ˜…

cursive crypt
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Satan would like you to think so.

honest siren
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β€œSatan” means Solded

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I think really is the satan

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So devil 😈

cursive crypt
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MS really does not want to stop bothering.

hollow dawn
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hehe

stray orbit
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I prefer the name Lilly in this era.

hollow dawn
honest siren
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When I installed windows 11, game performances increased by 15-20 fps

cursive crypt
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Be EULA I think you are even obligated to update.

hollow dawn
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make sure you deactivate that you want to be a windows update uploader, it reactivates sometimes... and you then become part of a botnet

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and tons of other shite

stray orbit
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When I bought a new computer and got Windows 11 with it, I didn't think I was gonna like it.

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But, it quickly won me over.

hollow dawn
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ever wanted skype? doesnt matter, here you go dear windows customer

cursive crypt
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Each other update, they show that power point presentation where they ask Do you want Win11?
No.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Do you really, really want to skip?
Yes.
Think again.
flips table

hollow dawn
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windows update example

stray orbit
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10 was pretty stable for me... rarely any crashed, but 11... I haven't had a single crash yet.

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And I'm the kinda person who runs a computer 24/7 and only does a reboot when there are updates.πŸ˜…

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I just set mine to happen when I'm not around; stress free updating.

hollow dawn
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well i got an update like every other day and my cpu goes up to 30% just for the update, and it doesnt care if i work or do stuff lol

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i bet half the updates are just windows 11 pre install downloads... again and again

cursive crypt
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I decided to participate in their Report usage program.
Each other day, if you leave your PC for few minutes it spikes to 100% while compressing & sending usage statistic.

mild tartan
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Man...the new WIP channel kind of sucks ngl

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They wiped all the previous messages and replaced it with the board where you cant even preview all the images in the post at a quick glance

cursive crypt
mild tartan
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It's just clunky

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I dont know why they'd change it

cursive crypt
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The previous ones are archived, you can browse them.

deep glen
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@mild tartan the old messages should still be available in #work-in-progress

deep copper
topaz depot
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⚠️ Compiling Shaders (290) ...

mild tartan
unborn lotus
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I like the new category, it's just images at a glance and much easier to view

topaz depot
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oh hello affectionateUser#4018

topaz depot
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yeah that's nothing but yet im still complaining

deep copper
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only add more

mild tartan
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There's just too many channels in general

cursive crypt
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True, thumbnails kinda compress the info. Easier to preview, not much of details tho.

mild tartan
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There's a lot of things that can be merged

deep copper
cursive crypt
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You know you can hide most of them.

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It is even recommended.

mild tartan
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Only mute, not hide

cursive crypt
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Just leave #food for example.

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Yeah, you can hide them.

deep copper
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you can hide now i think

foggy path
mild tartan
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Where is that option

deep copper
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and muting is also easier than before iirc

cursive crypt
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Also that top thing... that was posted recently.

foggy path
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Right click on the server icon in the sidebar

deep glen
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< has to see all channels regardless :'(

mild tartan
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I guess you learn something new every day lmao

deep copper
cursive crypt
foggy path
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Yeah a lot of these options aren't exactly obvious

cursive crypt
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Admit you just wanted to blind everyone else.

foggy path
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I'm a rebel

mild tartan
deep copper
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yeah instead of blacklisting, this whitelists a few channels i think

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give that a shot

cursive crypt
deep copper
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you will probably have the issue of being umable to hide voice chats in most cases btw

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i see dieter complain about it daily here

fleet tangle
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You can hide them, but Discord helpfully says HEY THERES PEOPLE IN VOICE CHAT when they are active.

cursive crypt
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True.

mild tartan
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You'd think they'd get direct support from Epic on that

fleet tangle
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That can cover everything from twitch streams to the Superbowl.

foggy path
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what about #web , is this in any way relevant anymore

cursive crypt
fleet tangle
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Would prefer #tacos

deep copper
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it's probably seperate after they realised those people didn't have anywhere to ask and cluttered other channels while just getting ignored in the end. so they gave them a special place to get ignored in

foggy path
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I like that people seem to be still working on the html5 port but yeah it seems pretty dead and not sure how well that even works

mild tartan
deep copper
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either way, it can never be removed, or merged, it will only get archived and replaced with a new channel at most

primal summit
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giving me ideas... punny ones

deep copper
bronze axle
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πŸ‘€

deep copper
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!gameidea

primal summit
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develop a realtime operating system for a mac

bronze axle
primal summit
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call it MacROS

cursive crypt
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#MacRoast

bronze axle
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The channel list definitely needs work. We have a lot of channels, some have overlap, and the categories are overloaded.

deep copper
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i think there's still a lot of room till you hit the discord limit though

cursive crypt
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It aint small topic on itself, can't compress so much.

bronze axle
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My concern is user experience for both members and moderators. Even with the new channel directory, simply continuing to add channels to our long list isn't sustainable.

deep copper
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another server then?

bronze axle
cursive crypt
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Why worry? Users report what they want.

deep copper
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the topic is huge, each category is like a server of its own tbh

soft night
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phist is here what

bronze axle
deep copper
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just like ue, too many stuff to explore

bronze axle
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You need to learn how to look past the request to figure out what they're actually asking for, i.e. what is the problem they're having?

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: does users know what they want?
:8ball: Without a doubt.

primal summit
cursive crypt
cursive crypt
soft night
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well you know how to hide annnoyed ones

bronze axle
deep copper
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i wonder if a channel is like adding a tech debt

foggy path
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discord is slowly reaching feature parity with a technology from the 80s

cursive crypt
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Definitely. I just think it is fine as it is now.

soft night
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me after update for that specific category

bronze axle
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We were considering turning support channels into forum channels, which would allow us to combine some in a logical way and use tags for subtopics, but there's been quite a heated discussion about that.

stray orbit
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I just muted everything except social. Worked for me. πŸ˜›

deep copper
bronze axle
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You don't have to mute/collapse anymore. You can truly customize the channel list now.

soft night
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when used thing came to newed mute

cursive crypt
bronze axle
stray orbit
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I don't like change, it makes my nosehair twitch.

soft night
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i mute the forum channels now

cursive crypt
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Well, you take a high traffic channel, make a duplicate in forum mode.

stray orbit
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Personally, I just hate the way Discord does its forums-- it's not coherent to my autistic brain, and makes it unreadable in a way.

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Like, they picked the worst possible format and implemented it in the worst possible way.

bronze axle
bronze axle
deep copper
primal summit
cursive crypt
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Doubt. Some may go ask around, but they will quickly diverge to one or another. In a way, we are just speculating here. Until a forum mode is not tried, nobody can tell its effect really. That is, if there is an will for it.

stray orbit
primal summit
cursive crypt
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Poll is also an option. Which reminds me there are not much of polls on this server πŸ€”

stray orbit
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Oops, I meant that reply to pfist, lol.

bronze axle
cursive crypt
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So, no forums?

bronze axle
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We got 245 responses.

cursive crypt
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ah, lol

soft night
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when you dont have smartphone so its pain to see it or use

stray orbit
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Yeah, I don't use a phone for Discord at all. PC all the way.

bronze axle
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Pretty good data to work with, but I've been having discussions here to compliment the data. I don't believe in going by survey or analytics data alone. There's more to the story.

fleet tangle
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The general opinion was, "Forums are cool, but this is a Discord srever, we like chat." vs "OMG FORUMS AWESOME WAA WAAAAH" (to paraphrase)

soft night
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my only phone is basic phone

cursive crypt
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There is certain intertia when coming to traditional chat based app like Discord.

soft night
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the forum channels are like zoomed in

cursive crypt
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out?

bronze axle
cursive crypt
soft night
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like you have one chat with one liner and it use 2 chatters space

fleet tangle
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Use them some places. πŸ™‚

cursive crypt
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Odd dates = chat, Even dates = forum. Bring on the Chaos!

stray orbit
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I just wish Discord had made threads easier to navigate in a subpanel or something; it woulda been better than the whole forum idea. But it is Discord.

soft night
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@cursive crypt i better not look so i dont need painkillers what dont work for me when i get migraines

deep copper
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a lounge forum would be weird

bronze axle
stray orbit
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Threads worked better, because at least it was coherent with the chat first concept.

soft night
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all forum channels i mute forever

sly hawk
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Hello guys
Is anyone here good in UX/UI
what would analytical measurement mean in term of user engagement on a mobile app?

stray orbit
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πŸ˜„

bronze axle
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I don't really like Discord threads. They work in some cases, but in most I think you're better off with a forum channel if you need threads.

soft night
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well i dont use slack anymore so

lofty lark
fleet tangle
soft night
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discord thread works fine

fleet tangle
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Threads are poop for something like this server.

bronze axle
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Sure, I keep seeing this argument, but in reality forum channels are not quite like a traditional forum.

stray orbit
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The most obnoxious thing about discord and forums is that... it's scroll bars are so goddamn tiny and forum things are so goddamn huge. πŸ˜„

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Like I said, it's like trying to navigate a Geocities site.

deep copper
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time for pfist to make a new chat application

bronze axle
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I get it, though. On the surface, to people who prefer chat, forum channels just look like another forum.

bronze axle
primal summit
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thoughts on #hardware forum? Relatively in-depth topics that are 90% requests, not chatter? or #food for that matter?

foggy path
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take the ease of use of discord and the features of irc and irc clients

fleet tangle
foggy path
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????

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profit

terse wasp
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You can safely ignore Lilly. She is just salty.

stray orbit
soft night
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threads work when you lets say post link of something and it add thread for it

primal summit
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low traffic playground

bronze axle
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Hypothetically hardware could benefit from being a forum. Would be pretty cool to have a "share your battlestations" post, for example. However, it seems to work fine as a text channel.

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: would you generate thread on discord if you want?
:8ball: Without a doubt.

stray orbit
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Well, this is what a Duro is.....

fleet tangle
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A hardware sharing forum would be great. But it would still benefit from casual chat.

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The thing about forums is, it's not casual.

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Share you battlestations, share your new benchmarks, etc - great for forums.

fleet tangle
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I mean, that's basically what discord forums are.

primal summit
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hardware being in social is odd

terse wasp
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lol @sand oxide

bronze axle
stray orbit
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I dunno why Discord gotta be more than what Discord is. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

primal summit
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not sure where else it'd go

fleet tangle
bronze axle
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Forum channels are functionally just subchannels. They look kind of like a forum, but that's only to enable focused discussions around the same topic without overlapping each other.

deep copper
bronze axle
primal summit
bronze axle
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No. Forum posts are still regular chat.

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Oh, well yeah. That's the whole point.

soft night
primal summit
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you can make a channel you can't post in but can make threads in...

bronze axle
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That's fine. It's highly subjective, and I know some of you feel quite strongly against it.

soft night
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when forum channel one post take teh hole realestate of the screen

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well image of it

deep copper
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i am happy as long as lounge is safe 🍹

stray orbit
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Yup, it's huge.

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All its missing is Geocities sparkles and flashing GIFs.

terse wasp
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Not really. It's literally just threads.

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Just with a different browsing channel

bronze axle
deep copper
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imagine if hugs were in all forum posts

bronze axle
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Most of the channels in Community Creations default to grid view because they're visual-oriented topics.

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You can change it back to list view if you prefer.

stray orbit
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Imagine if switch statements didn't exist.

soft night
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the nit would be if

stray orbit
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Worse... LSL.

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Close... Linden Scripting Language.

soft night
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Layra shorted list

stray orbit
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Imagine a language with no autocomplete... and everything had to fit within 64KB.

terse wasp
stray orbit
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And the IDE is just a text editor.

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With no features.

deep copper
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it really does sound like a python rival

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python's default "ide" that comes when you install it, only has text highlight sort of,

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which is also bugged

stray orbit
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Hey, at least you can use Visual Studio Code with Python.

deep copper
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true

terse wasp
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To be fair - like....most everything used in higher level production stuff has coroutines. C++ is just ass

cursive crypt
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~VSCode~

terse wasp
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Even GDScript has coroutines.

cursive crypt
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Imagine Lua, lol

cursive crypt
bronze axle
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I stick to Blueprints.

cursive crypt
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A man of culture.

bronze axle
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Sweet.

stray orbit
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How is C++20 coming along? I haven't look lately.

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Modules looked interesting.

terse wasp
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When Verse comes 'round in 2025...whew, we'll be blazing with coroutines in UE

cursive crypt
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Is good, still things to wrap up.

soft night
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i would be on andromeda galaxy by then

cursive crypt
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I think they will leave by that time Andromeda.

stray orbit
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I'm still looking for a reason to move beyond C++ of the 90s

stray orbit
unreal ether
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Lambdas confuse the hell out of me ngl

terse wasp
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Just read and understand Lilly++ and you'll see.

stray orbit
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Listen...

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Don't you dare.

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My C++ macros are the most beautiful thing ever.

terse wasp
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I've watched and discussed programming for many years with her. Just trust me, that stuff ain't her coding style πŸ˜…

unreal ether
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Now that is a great idea. Didn't even know you could overload '()'

soft night
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there is lilypads

cursive crypt
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Knuth

soft night
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some coding styles are just unique than others

stray orbit
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See, Duro, my code is soooo well structured, I can replace entire sections of code with single word macros.

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Get on my level.

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πŸ˜„

terse wasp
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Truly a master of your craft

soft night
unreal ether
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So what's the benefit of that over function pointers?

cursive crypt
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It is purple.

unreal ether
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Forgive my ignorance

unreal ether
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Ohhhhh. That makes a lot more sense, thanks

stray orbit
terse wasp
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So what's the benefit of that over function pointers?
For us smol 🧠 people - one less function to declare in the .h 😈

hollow dawn
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the say words again, yep yep

stray orbit
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According to Duro, I invented color.

hollow dawn
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i see words, me smort

terse wasp
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Lilly was there for the first showing of The Wizard of Oz

stray orbit
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I dunno if encouraging Duro is a good thing, or Laura for that matter.

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Sounds like Duro to me.

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He's always getting me into trouble.

terse wasp
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I am most certainly not

stray orbit
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The way you said that, gives away.

terse wasp
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To the fact that I do not get you into trouble? I agree.

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Glad we cleared that up

stray orbit
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I mean, it's Duro's fault I'm here.

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And Duro's fault I picked up UE. πŸ˜›

terse wasp
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Sorry to be a good influence?

stray orbit
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Other might not be inclined to agree. 🀣

terse wasp
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Fun fact. She was actually thinking about going to Unity

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I saved her

celest musk
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she watched too much lana

terse wasp
stray orbit
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I briefly considered Unity. But, I probably would have went to that other engine. πŸ˜„

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Cuz... you know how I feel about that other C language.

cursive crypt
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It takes years for one to purify itself from drugs.

terse wasp
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The only good C is the one with #

stray orbit
celest musk
stray orbit
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Oh yeah, we both got duped by Godot. πŸ˜›

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I don't like C of the sharp for the same reason I don't like modern C++... too verbose in the syntax.

cursive crypt
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You might like C then, very simple.

stray orbit
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Also, my number keys don't generally work, which is why I can't type out C sharp. πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
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Is simple tho.

soft night
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C#

cursive crypt
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no

terse wasp
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Nah - not haskell. Pascal is her ❀️

terse wasp
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She's mostly still salty that Microsoft bought the designer for Pascal and he went and made C#

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😈

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@stray orbit checkmate

stray orbit
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How dare thee.

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πŸ˜„

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That said, I hate Embercardero and what they've done to my beloved.

soft night
stray orbit
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Never C of the sharp.

cursive crypt
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MS Java addiction is kinda strong here.

cursive crypt
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c# = ms java

soft night
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maven

cursive crypt
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Suuuuuure

deep copper
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if you want less typing use python, you don't even have to type {} for making any sort of block. and you seem to be experienced in a similar language already

stray orbit
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I know a guy who spent years building a game in java.... a game that he could have built in weeks using any game engine. My black heart almost had pity.

fleet tangle
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Lol

cursive crypt
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Sometimes the sweat is the joy

fleet tangle
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Java, of all things.

soft night
deep copper
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you can just import some library to do it for you πŸ’ͺ #stayPythonic

cursive crypt
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I think everyone in his life must try to build an engine at least once. Realise what it does means.

stray orbit
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I built a 2D game engine in the 90s and early 2000s and I refuse to go back.

cursive crypt
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Mini sounds cute.

fleet tangle
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Engines are easy. It's the rendering that's the hard part.

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Heh

cursive crypt
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Engine is easy, it is its code that is hard.

stray orbit
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I wrote graphics, audio, physics, and a file manager in C/Assembly. I WILL NOT GO BACK TO THOSE DAYS

fleet tangle
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Lol

cursive crypt
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PTSD since then I see

fluid bloom
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πŸ˜„

fleet tangle
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Lillybyte, also known as Tim Sweeney.

stray orbit
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I wasn't that advanced, lol.

fleet tangle
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I'm sure Tim started small too.

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He just had ideas and drive!

stray orbit
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But... if I had made a three D engine, at least I woulda put Y up.

cursive crypt
fleet tangle
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Programmed his first physcis engine before he was 3.

stray orbit
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Everything else woulda been terrible though.

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Because me and math are not the best of friends.

primal summit
terse wasp
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She said she built it. She didn't say it was good.

stray orbit
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HEY

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It was faster than Godot. πŸ˜„

fleet tangle
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Rendering in ascii is where it's at. Who needs textures and pixels?!

primal summit
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but I'd swap Z for D

stray orbit
fleet tangle
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The whole point is to make it based on ascii characters!

stray orbit
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Also built a ASCII renderer for a BBS system.

terse wasp
fleet tangle
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Using a character table as a mini texture set is just wrong.

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(these days)

terse wasp
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Yes yes. You two share this functionality

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Or lack thereof

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Some people just didn't get the RAM upgrade they were supposed too

fleet tangle
fleet tangle
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It was pretty great.

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Like 24fps ascii render.

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Or whatever it was.

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Fantastic!

stray orbit
#

There's still some pretty neat ASCII things out there. Saw this three D ASCII render someone was workingon awhile ago.

#

Telnet, another old love. πŸ˜„

hollow dawn
#

\o/ discovered how to make tilable pattern woho, internet only offered the kinda dummy mirror method, but now i know and feel smart ha

cursive crypt
#

Why is MS Win so lamely made. The Weather start up box shows temperatures in F, but when opened in C.

fleet tangle
#

Because murika

hollow dawn
#

lamely? lamelike? lameso? 3 united kingdoms

cursive crypt
#

lamerer, lamest

hollow dawn
#

reminds me of the famous song "i wanna be canadian"

hollow dawn
#

"but not a cod fishermaaan"

deep copper
#

CoD?

hollow dawn
#

cuddles of death?

cursive crypt
#

Ha Found it! F/C are saved per location and for some reason it defaults to F.

hollow dawn
#

do you have an F drive thou?

#

i had apps looking for an H drive... but thee was none... A drive was common too, and funny without floppy drives

#

never did an app look for the B drive thou... mmmh... think about it...

cursive crypt
#

Meh, it does not work. Nor Reset, nor Uninstall. Time to drop another MS app. Can't believe these guys can't do correctly even such app.

hollow dawn
#

windows paint?

cursive crypt
#

Weather tile

hollow dawn
#

O.o you meean... a literal window in your rooom?

cursive crypt
#

Weather app tile visible on the Start menu.

#

I kinda like the big buttons :/

hollow dawn
#

i rather watch those brazillian weather shows

cursive crypt
#

But there are many and grouped and easily accessible.

#

Some big, some small, etc.

hollow dawn
#

wind 3.11 might be limited, but it keeps life simple

cursive crypt
#

Aah, yes

primal summit
#

I need to ungroup my taskbar icons, how?

thin aspen
#

Watch me whip

#

Watch me nae nae

primal summit
#

yes, but where is that setting?

#

what's the license key for?

#

ahh

#

for $5 if it works, it's great

#

I'd have rolled back from 11 if I could

#

I updated, then my AIO failed, then I was overseas for a month

#

couldn't roll back post-repair

ancient ingot
#

@sand oxide 🌹

#

so many Mods, is it a group orgy tonight? πŸ˜›

fleet tangle
#

Group origami, maybe.

soft night
ancient ingot
#

πŸ˜‚

white oxide
warm bloom
#

I actually like windows 11

#

especially with the newer update

#

with task manager and file explorer

#

my only peeve is the context menu still making me go through and extra click

bronze axle
#

Yeah that's annoying.

#

I've been generally enjoying Windows 11 other than stuff like that.

#

I don't even use the start menu, so I don't mind as much.

#

I only open it to type the name of an app I want to open.

#

Win key + type name + enter, basically.

zinc wagon
patent sage
#

Hi. Does anyone know when fsr 2 will come to ue5.1?

zinc wagon
#

i feel like i will never finish this game. the progress been really slow and things are getting too complicated to update one thing (especially the AI). have you guys been in a situation like this before?

#

if so how do you deal with this?

terse wasp
#

Convince myself that the idea was bad anyway and then restart for the 300th time

foggy path
#

I think it's a very good question though lol

zinc wagon
#

so i've decided to commit to this project no matter what

#

no matter how cool this cool online mmo rpg game idea is

#

did i mention this idea is cool?

terse wasp
#

MMO rpg? Yikes

zinc wagon
#

yep. so im just sticking with this this stealth game for now

#

but it's taking FOREVER

foggy path
#

do you have a game design and a plan?

zinc wagon
#

yeah but i guess the plan part was bad

warped pine
#

Mang.

Its been ages since I've touched on design documents.

foggy path
#

well you can't plan everything up front but as long as you have a plan it's at least something that should give you some kind of path forward

warped pine
#

Mostly because the stuff I've been doing lately are just isolated mechanics.

zinc wagon
#

more like a slimy roadblack

#

FTimerManager is goat

foggy path
#

when is timathan going to integrate coroutines into ue5

terse wasp
#

Knowing what I know about what Laura has had to do to get quality 🎡 ... I'm glad it's not me doing it πŸ˜…

foggy path
#

Well yeah not that

#

lol

zinc wagon
terse wasp
#

Well - use C++20 and boom. You can use UE5coro

warped pine
#

Today I learned what a coroutine is.

#

I'm a blueprint baby lol.

foggy path
#

corout~1.exe

warped pine
#

Oooooh

#

Oh, that sounds like timer functions

#

Ahhh

foggy path
#

it could be a timer

zinc wagon
#

which uses FTimerManager...

terse wasp
#

Playing a montage is another one. The node that has all those extra execution pins that is. And has the πŸ•’

warped pine
#

In the context menu I see actions like resolve soft reference, Equal Soft Reference, Is Valid, etc.

#

Coroutines don't sound so much like a singular function or category of functions but more like a fundamental concept.

#

Which I may or may not have been using without realizing it.

terse wasp
#

She's learning though!

#

She's got spunk

zinc wagon
#

oh co-routines! i get it now!

warped pine
#

My latest endeavor has been getting accidentally reinventing the wheel of Advanced Locomotion System (ALS.)

Didn't even know it existed until like, a couple days after getting a wrap up done on my stuff lol. Someone pointed out the similarities.

zinc wagon
#

yeah it's kinda hard not inventing the wheel when you didnt know it exists. i've grown the habit of googling the thing i need and if it already implemented in unreal

warped pine
#

Ultimately I decided to stick with what I made, if I had started out knowing of ALS it would've been a different discussion.

But I made a thing, it works exactly like I want it to, and I made a point to have it be tightly organized so it's easy to work with and expand on.

zinc matrix
#

is the remastered trilogy of gears of war better than the original?

long slate
#

yo

white oxide
#

thoughts on a starbase concept?

primal summit
#

how are you providing gravity?

#

implicitly, a rotationally symmetric object would spin, with docking on the ends of the axis, but the geometry and assymetry makes that unfeasable

#

gravity plating or generator makes sense, but at that point why the not-quite-symmetry?

#

the decks are aligned for gravity plating

#

it really fails the pretty test though

celest musk
#

not only in works of fiction...

celest musk
#

Copy only unnecessary array data from the structure to build the morph target (this will save a lot of memory)

UE comments at it's best πŸ˜„

white oxide
#

actually i have a whole multi paragraph explanation of how gravity works on stations

white oxide
primal summit
# white oxide how?

the asymetry looks chaotic and random with random jags and filled in open circles

#

it may fit the story, but pretty it ain't

primal summit
white oxide
#

its a concept

#

not the final rendition

#


NM slowly deteriorates in normal space and the more charge you give it the faster it decays. Corrupted Null-Matter (CNM) is very dangerous, and has to be handled carefully because its naturally radioactive, It has been used for some time as a form of RTG (radio thermal-electric generator) its been noted that the fact that CNM doesn't react well with organic tissue (even more hazardous than simple radioactive waste) the stuff has to be disposed of properly, current generation disposal methods include dropping it into a strong gravity well in an uninhabited star-system


CNM has been used in weapons systems but its unpredictability due to its other dimensional properties make it very hazardous to store long term.
AG fields as weapons have been and are always going to be a weapon used in war however the scope and power of a field is limited by the amount of NM available and how much power can be charged into it.```
primal summit
#

recgargable artificial gravity plating, which posits it's own issues

white oxide
#

yeah

#

theres a LOT more lore than my games suggest atm

#

there are also no "good for everything" super materials in my universe theres some cost for everything be it danger, rarity, or more

primal summit
#

the issues it posits are physics-related: one can assume the attraction is omnidirectional

white oxide
#

yeah were soft sf but not like trek "reverse the polarity" soft

white oxide
zinc matrix
#

looking for game dev friends

cursive crypt
#

Mythical beasts

white oxide
#

i have... nodes in my lungs
cost all my savings for the damned scan
but i have my lung capacity cut in half and they might be cancerous

tulip orbit
#

blueprint nodes?

tulip orbit
#

so more along the lines of blender geometry nodes

cursive crypt
#

Must be USA if so expensive.

unborn lotus
#

how did you realize? any symptoms?

white oxide
#

chest pain for 6 months

#

USA but also disabled because of a slew of mental health problems that start with autism and end with schizo

#

having asthma symptoms now but never having them when i was a kid

#

diminished sustained breathing and problems getting enough air while doing physical activities

unborn lotus
#

well I hope it's curable

white oxide
#

i have no clue

#

i paid for the scan, now have to wait a while to fund getting it tested for cancer

#

im pretty low on the income spectrum

unborn lotus
#

medical tourism?

white oxide
#

tempting but too expensive

#

max ive made in a year is like $5k

#

average is about 2k

unborn lotus
#

have you considered selling on the UE marketplace then? a couple of good art packs (not even code) and you can make that just as passive income

white oxide
#

sadly my skills are not in the code/art zones

#

im GREAT at creating detailed plausible lore

#

stuff that to anyone with at least a highschool chem/physics/biology degree would 100% understand and believe in

#

like high end soft sci-fi/fantasy

#

i do have music i own

#

dunno how to upload it as a track pack

#

its great orchestral stuff

unborn lotus
#

it may be worth investigating

white oxide
#

i have like 60 of them, all 40 piece orchestra, and i own 100% rights to them

#

with holiday and patriotic albums

#

i mean i do have an active development project with a single good dev so theres money potential

fluid bloom
#

krinner tree stands suck

#

that is all

warm bloom
#

How do you guys typically structure your projects as in the folders specifically

#

like where do you put your gamemodes and character controllers

proud jay
#

we did it boys

#

finished the daily scrum with "see you next year" 😎

trail wedge
#

2023 didn't test well on the beta

proud jay
#

but if there is no 2023, 2024 would still be the next year

#

so we're good

trail wedge
#

you still owe taxes and shit for 2023

proud jay
#

ok

#

had no income for 2023 though

#

so I'm good

trail wedge
#

yeh but this time we're taxing 2023 on 2022's income

#

it's almost like this situation is being engineered to be bad

proud jay
#

just give me three fiddy and we don't talk about it

warm bloom
#

damn loch ness monster trying to get my tree fiddy

marble sparrow
#

good morning

hollow dawn
#

thats how i wake up every morning...

hollow dawn
proud jay
#

what

#

not here\

#

an estimate maybe

#

but still in the end of the year they fix it up and you get back or pay extra, but you are taxed on earnings of thatt year

hollow dawn
#

"retrospective advance tax payment"

#

same ridiculous word as in german XD

trail wedge
#

you don't need to do any of that

#

(talking about US)

hollow dawn
#

nah, the year after next year is when you gonna pay for next years profitzz

hollow dawn
#

you calculate your income last year, and pay for the next based on that, and so on

trail wedge
hollow dawn
#

kinda depends on your business model here, as architect its like that

trail wedge
hollow dawn
#

here, you just pay less the year after... pity if you go broke till then -.-

trail wedge
hollow dawn
#

ahso

#

ya, personal tax is like, you tell em what you made, you pay for that, you get stuff back if you had deductable expenses

#

imo thou, the math how they calculate how much we pay is a secondary matter, rather how they friggin spend it -.-

glacial creek
#

Hello.

timber viper
#
  • We are a medium-sized studio of about 300 developers
#

nani

#

since when 300 is not big sized

trail wedge
#

so I guess context matters

proud jay
#

merging breaking change 5 hours before going on holidays 😎

#

they wanted me to make sure 2 features were done before the end of year, not my problem if it goes wrong

honest siren
#

Hi

proud jay
#

oh no, you lost your leaf

honest siren
#

Yeah, i m a pro slacker now

hollow dawn
#

here, have your walking cane then

trail wedge
proud jay
#

Seems like most people think they understand bitwise operations

#

0 fans 😭

hollow dawn
#

maybe its an O like in Only

honest siren
proud jay
#

ah, must be

proud jay
hollow dawn
#

mono sodium qlutamat?

#

meaty sausage quest?

#

guessing acronyms, a jolly pasttime of the common human

trail wedge
proud jay
#

nah I'm good

#

already enough weebs in this chat

hollow dawn
#

is it international banana day or why is everyone posting banana gifs?

#

or well, the last few gifs ive seen at least

hollow dawn
#

i had this thought, and it opened many questions...

are blondes just sunbleached gingers?
can you breed gingers by denying blondes sunshine?
do blonde basement developers turn into gingers?

proud jay
#

no

#

red hair is genetic

#

just like other hair colors

hollow dawn
#

:( i had hoped to solve another human mystery... pity... next thought then

proud jay
#

but the gene is recessive, which is why it doesn't occur much

#

cause you need to get it from both your parents before you become ginger

#

not that your parents need to be ginger

hollow dawn
#

arent mommy genes super strong?

proud jay
#

but they need the gene

proud jay
#

there's no difference

#

one could argue the male genes have more say

hollow dawn
#

i only trust you on this because you know your analytics

proud jay
#

cause only through male genes can the gender be decided

#

if theoretically you would make a baby with 2 mothers, it could never be a boy

hollow dawn
#

female sharks dont even need males for fertilization if they live near nuclear test sites

proud jay
#

some species can change gender

#

like the clownfish

#

a male can become a female

#

technically in finding nemo, evolutionary speaking, the dad should've become a female

hollow dawn
#

leme just say this... snails...

#

they are freaky, not just because they are slimy turds

proud jay
#

Is this what would happen if I tried to use rider?

warm bloom
#

I'm gonna break the rules

#

and not prefix or suffix things with BP_ or whatever their acronym is

#

πŸ’€

#

if only they allowed spaces in naming stuff

#

or periods

#

so its like

#

name.bp

#

that would look so much better visually which definitely matters lol

proud jay
#

that would also completely break the files

#

the dot at least

tulip orbit
#

All my folders are NewFolder, NewFolder2... etc. all assets are named Asset1,Asset2...

warm bloom
#

hmm not necessarily maybe with the way unreal handles files

proud jay
#

unreal still stores files on disk

#

except if they would replace the dot with something else before storing

#

but that's just dumb

warm bloom
#

true

solid hull
warm bloom
#

good idea

#

tbh you could probably just organize everything super straightforward and it would make sense

solid hull
#

I'm gonna use K&R indenting

warm bloom
#

especially when you aren't working with a game that has multiple game modes and tons of levels

warm bloom
#

honestly I didn't get into much related to unreal like I knew my way around but I deep dived into a bunch of core things and it was honestly far easier than I had expected

#

everything is pretty straightforward and most of the complicated things seem to have solutions or things in place to simplify them lol

cursive crypt
proud jay
#

I don't

cursive crypt
#

Cant ue be cross compiled?

#

I see. Why Linux tho?

#

It is nice to hear it gets traction, but it is still pretty low userbase.

proud jay
#

can't you clang that shit on windows too?

cursive crypt
#

gcc should be fine too

timber viper
#

Does UE use gcc in any platform builds? thingken

hard kestrel
#

just wanna throw this in here but can we all agree that this is still one of the best AC games?

#

just though i should let everyone know

#

and if you missed out on this gem it's never too late

honest siren
#

Nope, valhalla is the best ac game i've ever played

unborn lotus
#

doesn't it take like hours to finish

#

it's too much a commitment

honest siren
#

or revolitons

inland oriole
#

I thought Fortnite was the best game in every category?

hard kestrel
hard kestrel
#

you could call me a pretty heavy modder because yknow sniffs in a cool way i modded minecraft

celest musk
#

those are noodles, they're called ravioli over here

#

i had to think of them when reading revolitons

hard kestrel
#

multiple people are typing

ornate kraken
inland oriole
#

🀣

hard kestrel
#

wait really? πŸ˜‚

ornate kraken
#

yeaaaaaaaaaaah

inland oriole
#

Totally.

hard kestrel
#

i mean... I don't blame them

fluid bloom
#

why was fortnite in mmo category to begin with?

inland oriole
#

I heard you can just download Unreal and most of the MMO is already there.

celest musk
#

the MMO part of unreal is #cpp

hard kestrel
inland oriole
#

#cpp is more like a part of the MMO, the final boss kind of part.

ornate kraken
fluid bloom
#

okay wow

cursive crypt
#

AC ... you played one Ubi game, you played them all.
I don't anyone who is not kind of "meh" for Valhalla.

pearl elk
#

Ive been doing cpp for ages and I never received a random drop

cursive crypt
#

Have you listened to your parents during the year Dave? Will you make Santa happy?

inland oriole
inland oriole
pearl elk
#

gotta grind for components to build objects from blueprints

swift raptor
#

hi :D I'm new here, so I thought I'd pop in and say hey^^

inland oriole
#

Someone should make a meme out of this, random Unreal components only unlock after you get a drop (which of course is also random based on time).

hard kestrel
#

welcome!

swift raptor
#

how is everyone doing :)

hard kestrel
inland oriole
#

They sensed us talking about blueprint MMORPGs and instantly joined πŸ˜‚

swift raptor
#

am still fairly new to unreal tbh

#

:)

hard kestrel
#

nice, same here! people are a great help here. if you click on @proud jay 's head you will also find a ton of information.

swift raptor
#

oooh nice! :D

hard kestrel
#

or well in his bio i guess πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
#

lmao, newcomers unite and attack them lazy bastards.

pearl elk
#

newbies just here for the new season content

inland oriole
#

Unreal Slackers Royale. Now available on all platforms.

hard kestrel
#

tbf i have always wanted to learn ue since ue4 like 4-5 years ago but i just never had the knowledge of coding to do so. And having pretty bad ADD didn't help me either. lost some years at school because of it until i finally got on meds for it. Right now i have way more motivation and i am not that scared to bother people with questions about it like i did back then.

#

for some reason i always though it would be annoying for someone to keep asking questions.

cursive crypt
#

Feel free to bother them. In the other channels tho.

hard kestrel
#

yeah believe me i am. πŸ˜„ got to meet some good people in CPP gang.

cursive crypt
#

They are all good ppl, happy to help. Even for the most stupid questions.

inland oriole
#

And then there's me who still doesn't understand the answer after 3 times! 🀣

#

cries

hard kestrel
#

yeah that was some years ago when i tried to do that

#

rn it's 5 ofcourse

inland oriole
#

VR begs to differ

#

Yesn't.

pearl elk
#

Lumens for humans

hard kestrel
#

tbf not gonna lie but i'm really curious what a big step vr games can make now with the use of nanite

inland oriole
#

But then again, most people probably don't care about VR lol.

hard kestrel
#

well i mean.. yeah.. but like when it works on 5.1 laura

#

dammit

#

πŸ˜„

#

in what way?

pearl elk
#

is there a video I can watch of this huge step in VR games?

inland oriole
hard kestrel
#

ahh that sucks, but it's a step in a very good direction though

inland oriole
#

Also to be honest, the most popular VR headset right now by a large amount is a standalone headset with a mobile chip. Very few developers are going to bother with making PC only games.

hard kestrel
#

i was watching that unreal sensei video when he used and didn't use billboards with his trees. and when he enabled nanite for foliage he gained a additional 5fps unlike with billboards. thought that was pretty amazing

proud jay
#

I have an oculus quest 2, 97% of my time on it is beatsaber

#

don't even bother making any VR game at all

inland oriole
#

VR is in a bit of an awkward spot honestly. It's not big enough where pretty much any big studios develop games for it but it's not small enough to straight up die. So you get small teams or even solo developers that make games for it with the occasional exception of bigger titles when a company tries to push their headset / platform lol.

proud jay
#

and companies with money for decent VR make it PSVR exclusive πŸ™ƒ

#

looking at you horizon VR game

inland oriole
#

Like I said. The occasional exception of companies pushing their own platform πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
#

Like I said, drink water. It is good for your health.

celest musk
#

so i'm not the only one getting those... πŸ˜„

#

theres 2 of us now

cursive crypt
#

Wat is dat?

#

Weird theme

celest musk
#

blows

#

your mind

cursive crypt
#

Dat rider?!

#

Looks live javas gui framework

cursive crypt
#

Yeah, f it is so apparent

inland oriole
#

Laura betraying VS? Who is this and what did you do to Laura?

#

Linux + VS + Microsoft = Rider?

#

πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
#

It is all about the intellisense

#

And code navigation

#

Yeah, whatever r#

fleet tangle
#

Code Inspection

cursive crypt
#

Code Destruct

#

Nice. White space crash

fleet tangle
#

Oh Rider.

#

I love the random includes to unrelated modules.

pearl elk
fleet tangle
#

I also love how the UE source-code reuses class and struct names.

proud jay
#

sharepoint is such fucking garbage

fleet tangle
#

Don't worry, we've still got unicode to use.

proud jay
#

every time I open a word document in the browser, al fucking title numbering disappears

#

who makes this shit

fleet tangle
#

When we run out of regular names.

proud jay
#

and how does this pass QA

pearl elk
#

Is there a variable named Dave yet?

fleet tangle
#

Probably using Firefox.

proud jay
#

I do afterwards, but if someone links it in a mail I have to go to the browser version to openit in word

proud jay
#

lots of UX frustrations today

#

good thing it's my last working day of the year

#

are you finishing my work next week? πŸ₯²

celest musk
proud jay
#

spent all my jets on helping santa

ancient ingot
#

@sand oxide 🌹

proud jay
#

BattleToad probably

celest musk
#

it might be caused by a plugin tho. I've disabled some 2 days ago and i think i didn't had a crash since then

#

you wish^

#

it has like 20-30 plugins enabled by default

fleet tangle
#

The single best feature of Rider is the uninstaller πŸ˜‚

ancient ingot
#

πŸ˜‚

celest musk
#

and then you are still left with a few GB of indexing data in your home directory^

pearl elk
#

If only you guys put as much effort into your cpp as you do complaining about Rider πŸ˜‚

ancient ingot
#

haha yeah Laura ! πŸ˜›

pearl elk
#

Im looking at all of you... even you Nigey

ancient ingot
#

i dont do cpp only c++

proud jay
#

ue5coro isn't real

celest musk
#

4.1G /home/ue/.cache/JetBrains/Rider2022.3

fleet tangle
#

I am disappointed in the lack of capitals for UE

pearl elk
#

Imagine all you could accomplish with your full power

#

but aye... VS sucks too πŸ˜›

proud jay
#

I thought it was unreal

pearl elk
#

I see someone gets defensive when its their arse on the line

#

Easier to bitch about other peoples projects

steady fox
#

I should start answering questions via youtube videos, explaining how to do something in UE5, wonder if I could content farm this.

#

haha

celest musk
ancient ingot
#

lol omg whats going on in here today 😐

pearl elk
#

I love watching YT videos of someone waving the cursor around while they talk to pad it out for more ads

steady fox
ancient ingot
#

dont have to tell me laura, im normally the one that gets banned !

celest musk
#

so how do i do the XXX?

steady fox
#

that's someone's name

pearl elk
#

"20 AMZAZING things you didnt know about Unreal Engine 5.1"

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but you know all of them

celest musk
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actually, there's at least one legit video like this

timber viper
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pov you renamed something pensive

celest musk
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Has a developer ever casually mentioned something that made you realize you could've cut months off your last project? You could be that developer! Join Unreal Engine Evangelist Chris Murphy as he runs through some of the lesser-known Unreal Engine 5 features that could turn weeks into days.

We’re excited to bring you sessions from Unreal Fest ...

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highly recommended

timber viper
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only if R# didnt add it when i rename

cursive crypt
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Grand Appricot

celest musk
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chris murphy btw

steady fox
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Why not name it GA_C_IceBlast_Hard

pearl elk
steady fox
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C for child

celest musk
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both legends πŸ˜„

cursive crypt
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There were few interesting things, but not much.

timber viper
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_Crap

pearl elk
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you can learn all the UE5 you want, unless you actually release games with it... are you even using it?

steady fox
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The only right answer, and you are all wrong cause i'm ignorant

cursive crypt
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Why using UE when can just hang around, slacking?

timber viper
pearl elk
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You can make linear games πŸ˜‰

pearl elk
timber viper
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is it an excuse at all

ancient ingot
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i'm a tool

fleet tangle
celest musk
timber viper
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cant wait to pay all my 95545677567 Turkish pesos ($0.37) to support coroutines

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hey.. wait a minute sus

celest musk
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and it's hell of a fun to debug Index out of Bounds, nullptr access etc.

timber viper
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patreon doesnt accept fighter jets?

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do you have an agreement with lockheed martin or something

ancient ingot
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naw

timber viper
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and how much fun you had when you are creating me?

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idk it exist and you worship etc

celest musk
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@timber viper a lot, after all you have penis food

timber viper
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that... was a mistake

celest musk
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no, that was the cherry on the top

timber viper
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i used using god = dragonHell while writing that to prevent ambiguity on compiler

timber viper
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must've been funny to watch

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we need that feature irl

celest musk
timber viper
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New Copilot update!:
When you write dumb code, copilot removes the uninstaller to prevent small disasters in your company!

timber viper
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who knows

celest musk
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i guess it does

timber viper
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its just shape - not the.. p itself

celest musk
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otherwise they wouldn't eat it

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yea... it's the "shape"

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or whoever made the recipe had that kind of humor, and people adapted to it

honest siren
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I havent been out of the home for 2 weeks I think Im getting depressed 😦

celest musk
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go for a walk?!

timber viper
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a specific part of it

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and its essentially called "şırden" - then it became "şırdan"

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so the shape is because how dragonHell shaped sheep's "şırden"s

celest musk
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şırden is the name of the stomach?

proud jay
celest musk
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and şırdan the name of the meal?

timber viper
proud jay
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penis is close to stomach

honest siren
swift raptor
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hey mind if I ask a general question abt the server? :)

celest musk
proud jay
honest siren
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I will look into local traveling tours

proud jay
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you don't have to travel to leave the house lol

fleet tangle
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You don't have to "go" anywhere.

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Just wander.

proud jay
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you can just walk 2 streets further

honest siren
proud jay
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I've done the block tour hundreds of times, but it's nice to just get outside sometimes

swift raptor
proud jay
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you need to be in the server for a week

honest siren
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I guess it'll be like this, Id better walk randomly

proud jay
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and then type /stream in any chat