#lounge

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primal summit
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yep, but a construction site will do well enough

zinc matrix
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So what are you going to do, constrain the game within certain bounds?

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That's prob the simplest way to do it

primal summit
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not sure

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probably for mapping simplicity

zinc matrix
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but it would also be cool to see some sort of system where you can travel infinitely, and the game could continue across an infinite expanse

primal summit
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no reason it can't in theory

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just not a practical scale to start

zinc matrix
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theoretically, you could save it all in some sort of binary file for memory, each cell could be 0 or 1 occupied or not

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I'd imagine storing all that info in the game files would get pretty performance heavy as you travel further away

primal summit
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it'd probably be more efficient to save just coordinates of occupied cells

zinc matrix
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Probably

primal summit
zinc matrix
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even the most seemingly infinite games have a limit, minecraft is a great example

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I think it's smth like 30 million meters away for that

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Theoretically tho, with how little this game concept would store it would take years to ever get far enough away to break it

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Maybe years is a bit of an exaggeration but you'd have to be crazy to do it

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Also I'm wondering how hard the game will be, like a simple puzzle game, or like 2048

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Because the larger the simulation would get, the harder to end

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Maybe some sort of limiting factor would be needed to prevent it getting so far out of hand that there's nothing the player can do about it

primal summit
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and if you make it more than just a kill cells game but have actual npcs doing stuff and moving and reacting to your environmental changes...

zinc matrix
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maybe this isn't as simple a concept as first thought...

primal summit
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game of life is, but emergent properties and adding another layer to it could be fun...

drifting beacon
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I wanna see someone put iron sights in their fps game but it's literally just a block of iron attached to a rifle with goggly eyes glued too it and if you zoom to look into it you cannot see a thing as the iron ingot obscures your vision

regal pecan
fleet tangle
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Man I haven't done ironing in so many years.

proud jay
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who does that

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such a waste of time

regal pecan
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Don't forget starching

proud jay
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you put starch on clothes?

fleet tangle
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It keeps them ironed for longer.

regal pecan
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this stuff dates back to before synthetic fibers
I think that's not a coincidence

proud jay
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never heard of that lol

carmine frigate
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having a black spot on ur shirt in the shape of an iron is a fashion statement πŸ˜›

proud jay
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watch out or Kanye will steam your idea

regal pecan
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Kanye?

proud jay
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West

regal pecan
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I suppose there aren't too many kanyes floating around.

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in fact there might be none, since he legally changed his name to Ye, or so I heard

proud jay
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yeah

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although I'm pretty sure some people named their kids Kanye before though lol

regal pecan
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crap, now they have to name their kids Ye to keep up with the joneses wests.

carmine frigate
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just like piffy puf. or paffy P. or diidy puf , or was it puddy G

proud jay
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P diddy

carmine frigate
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piddy C

regal pecan
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pseudonyms and stage names can change on a whim. legal names are when you absolutely positively have to make someone do grueling paperwork.

proud jay
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it's just Ye

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that's his full name

regal pecan
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Missed opportunity have the last name "Et"

carmine frigate
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yeety ye

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puffy yeet

regal pecan
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Yeez nuts

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Yeety McYeetykins

proud jay
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Ye Sus

regal pecan
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Ye Haw

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Ye-nkee Doodle

fleet tangle
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Now that's just crazy talk.

regal pecan
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Ye ssir

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Hear Ye Hear Ye

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a few decades later, will he be Old Yeller?

soft night
soft night
fleet tangle
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"The story of why pizza made me lose 2 fingers"

proud jay
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now I want pizza

cursive crypt
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me too

soft night
cursive crypt
knotty skiff
zinc matrix
ancient ingot
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m33p m33p

proud jay
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I agree

broken sigil
fleet tangle
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Lol

knotty skiff
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Idiot! The only best way is Document Text File

ancient ingot
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oo whos quinn?

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proud jay
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moderator bot to ban people and such

thorny dock
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welp, now I need to double check this with Tim Sweeny Bot

unknown.png
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It's a good move honestly I think the unreal community would merge wonderfully with the quroa community

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obligatory /s for shitpost πŸ€ͺ

zinc matrix
noble plaza
# thorny dock It's a good move honestly I think the unreal community would merge wonderfully w...

Quora is like Reddit, if every comment was maximising for SEO for some fucking reason.

You know those recipes, that start with 10 paragraphs of life stories, details about their family you don't care about, and 4 rehashings of how much their family loves their meal - all before actually getting to the 2 paragraphs the recipe takes? Yeah every second Quora comment is that, for whatever reason.

In other words, I'm keen for the transition to Quora. I can finally practice my blogspam skills

noble plaza
foggy path
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Quora Digest emails are good

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At least for me they often contain all kinds of interesting Q/As

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but I don't use it beyond just reading those on occasion

zinc matrix
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no their always about us politics democrats v Republicans for me

foggy path
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I think it optimizes based on what you click same as everything does nowadays

zinc matrix
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which Is funny bc I don't even remember making an account

noble plaza
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No doubt there's some interesting content, but it just hijacks online searches for me, and whereas a Reddit thread would be straight to the point, Quora is full of pretentions rambling that often ends up being wrong anyway. WHY

foggy path
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Never seen quora pop up on searches for me

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Or actually yes I have, but very rarely, and on searches that weren't giving me any useful results to begin with :P

noble plaza
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Addendum to the above:
Step 3: don't be 🦘 either

foggy path
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I had a funny one in today's Quora Digest asking something like "Has there ever been a bigger martial arts poser than Steven Seagal" lol

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The answer began with an anecdore about how Chuck Norris was a pretty humble guy and ended with "no there has been no poser bigger than Seagal" lol

noble plaza
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Chuck Norris, m8. Haven't heard the name in like 15 years lol

foggy path
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yeah he had his moment of fame which ended sometime in the 2000s I guess except with action movie aficionados

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watched Invasion USA recently which was pretty decent

noble plaza
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BTW Unreal Fest soon right? Do they do any announcements at them typically?

foggy path
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris_facts

Chuck Norris facts

Chuck Norris facts are satirical factoids about American martial artist and actor Chuck Norris that have become an Internet phenomenon widespread in popular culture. These 'facts' are absurd hyperbolic claims about Norris's toughness, attitude, sophistication, and masculinity.
Chuck Norris facts have spread internationally, making translations a...

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I remember this was a pretty big fad at one point lol

noble plaza
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Yeah the memes are all I remember, it was around the derpina and rage face times. Simple, innocent times

foggy path
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lol

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I vaguely recall some of them were actually fairly well received

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Never played them myself though

thorny dock
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I want a manny command where /s will mark a message as a shitpost lol

foggy path
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maybe you just need to start marking them with πŸ’©

proud jay
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I mean there is literally an AI tag on the image though

zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
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?

thorny dock
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Well, I really did search it to see if it was something previously considered, or somehow using quora as a backend. I was trying to figure out a date estimate of the most up to date training data, by asking about the forums being renamed to epic dev community

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When you ask certain questions that don't have a definitive repeated answer online it generates random responses, like swiping to re roll the response says that it's being replaced by the unreal slackers discord, and then the unreal "slayers" discord (watch out pfist)

cursive crypt
slim atlas
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is this quora shit real?

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XD

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wtf

lofty lark
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I knew it. I say the ping and knew this question was coming

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I want to but I keep ending up wanting to do other stuff ;-; like playing destiny 2 again and sinking 150 hours into it in a month

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Some old friends I use to play it with started playing it again so I reinstalled it

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But now I'm bored of it again so I haven't touched it in over a week xD

lofty lark
timber viper
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it was difficult to realize whole 3 season was just a slice of life

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still living the trauma

lofty lark
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Vinland Saga?

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Think that's the name of the one I'm thinking of

soft night
cursive crypt
soft night
fleet tangle
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Cowbell is the best bell.

broken sigil
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oh it's getting "popular" πŸ˜…

unknown.png
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I'll make sure I take a screenshot lol

turbid spindleBOT
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:question: are you popular wity blue?
:8ball: Cannot predict now.

timber viper
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two times in a row this week

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wtf is wrong with this company

lofty lark
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christ

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that was not in response to "wtf is wrong with this company" it was in response to it being the second time this week

timber viper
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Mr. Vega was terminated within 10 days
tbh 10 days is a long long time for something like this

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I found another article that explains what happened in detail and its so disturbing to read

lofty lark
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Their "relationship" ended in 2011, and he kept going on with this stuff until 2020? jesus

deep copper
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how is a battery related

lofty lark
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because that man is getting hella charged

timber viper
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700 reported incidents occurring under CEO Robert Kotick's watch

deep copper
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how many employees do they even have

lofty lark
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jesus fucking christ.

timber viper
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its a collection of multiple AAA studios

lofty lark
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Activision Blizzard itself has 2,127 alone according to LinkedIn

timber viper
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There are 3 different studios for CoD and a few other small ones helping the 3

deep copper
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playing their games would bring up some sad memories now i guess

lofty lark
timber viper
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I'm not sure about that

lofty lark
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Because I think it'd be a bit misleading if it did

timber viper
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well 2k to 700 is a.... horrible rate

proud jay
timber viper
deep copper
# proud jay

ohhh, so it's like transfer of charge needs touch

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so battery

lofty lark
timber viper
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he regularly "belittled and insulted" the plantiff during meetings, describing her as "||a scrub||" whose "opinions don't matter," and that she was failing to perform "a job a monkey could do."
tbh at this point whole studio is guilty

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if this lasted that long someone should have take a step

lofty lark
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That's wild that shit flew during meetings

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Is there a reason you censored ||a scrub||? Is there alternative meaning to that word I don't know?

zinc matrix
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a scrub is just as bad as many curses in other cultures

timber viper
lofty lark
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I always used it similarly to like, punk or noob lol

lofty lark
deep copper
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after reading that article i kinda understand why people say to not mix work life with personal

thin aspen
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Ngmi

carmine frigate
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the article states she said she was underpaid.... that means her skills could get a better paid job elsewhere?

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like ppl are willing to take a paycut if the job makes em happy

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shit job and shit pay... ppl tend too leave

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just come to work on time and pepperspray the guy if he acts out of line

regal pecan
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Lawsuit is based on it being enabled/encouraged by the workplace culture

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the dailymail article that the ign article references is much more thorough

carmine frigate
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well im not up too speed on the case.. dont really follow drame like this

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but you never have any compromising data you cant have in the open on digital medium and you never send it out

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and some guys just need pepperspray to the face.. if you dont do it some1 else might get hurt

regal pecan
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I'd have to imagine that's a sure way for HR to give you the boot, probably ineffective at reforming a miscreant, and also difficult to do over text/email.

carmine frigate
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well if HR gives u the boot you can still go lawsuit... at least u peppersprayed him

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hell at one point my boss made an improper joke about my sister... i told him he better now do it again or he would get seriously hurt

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also i trashed a bunch of stuff

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at that point he knew he was outta line

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he said sorry and ordered a new pc monitor

slim atlas
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i am obsessed with wheelhandles

thorny dock
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it's hard to understand how people can be so evil

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then I watched Dexter

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I would say most the people in acti are like Dexter

carmine frigate
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ehm dexter wasnt actually the bad guy till he killed the cop πŸ˜›

thorny dock
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dexter progressed out of control, at first it was justified then he went out of control

primal summit
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look man... things happen... situations are arranged... actions spiral past goals...

thorny dock
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but you know what the more I think about it the more I think your right thats actually a really bad comparison I made hahaha

carmine frigate
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also he was broken.. stone cold psycho πŸ˜›

thorny dock
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I do NOT mean it at all like that, I think that more these people function on normal levels and have some extreme calculated evil need to do that stuff and hide it, and thrives under operating under suspicions

regal pecan
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They're more like drug addicts, but they're high on their own ability to get what they want.

primal summit
thorny dock
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thats what I loved about the show it was a really tough debate lol

primal summit
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Good results and removing problems, good! Trophies and ritual, bad!

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hrm...

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super mario and falling down are basically the same in a lot of ways

carmine frigate
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super mario jumps on turtles... thats 100% evil

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like a lot of em are protected spiecies

zinc matrix
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like wheelchair handles?

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whats a wheelhandle

primal summit
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both start with what is in their minds a perfectly benign and reasonable task
both work through challenges with ever-increasing levels of violence to complete their task which is to get to an innocent person they love who's being protected by someone else
both have two primary parties acting to stop them

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only difference is mario never realizes he's the bad guy going against a changing social norm

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this might explain why falling down is my favorite: I played a lot of super mario on NES

carmine frigate
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that movie right? πŸ˜›

fleet tangle
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Falling down?

primal summit
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yep

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a movie about two guys having bad days

fleet tangle
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Iron Maiden made a good song about it.

primal summit
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yep

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man on the edge, a favorite

carmine frigate
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well thats why i boke the pc monitor when i felt it was the right thing to do... if i didnt he might have done the same next day... for many days

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also i told him i would quit if he couldnt stop talkin crap.. that wasnt much of an option for him at the time

fleet tangle
regal pecan
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mumbles something about tortoises

carmine frigate
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never had turtle soup myself πŸ˜›

primal summit
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mario's turtles can't swim and die in water, they're not turtles

fleet tangle
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That's why the galapagos turtles became endangered.

carmine frigate
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turtles often drown 😦

slim atlas
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wheel

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handle

fleet tangle
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They kept trying to bring them back to catalogue them, but they were so delicious, none of them ever survived the trip home on teh boat.

slim atlas
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i am trying to make one in ue5 :3

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got a system down already

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just not for the wheelhandle

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kinda tricky

regal pecan
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manipulated in VR?

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otherwise make it spin and tada

carmine frigate
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some turtle eggs hatch at full moon.. soo lil turtles head too the light where the ocean is but if there is a town next too the beach with many lights they head there and die

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i see it on tv, it was super sad 😦

regal pecan
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better than choking on a pelican's stomach acid

zinc matrix
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also to model one you should use blender or an actual modeling tool

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ue5 has model making functionality, but its not ideal when compared to actual modeling programs

thorny dock
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that was the plot for the canceled second super mario movie with bob hoskins

regal pecan
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that sounds like the plot for TMNT

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maybe someone failed to sell their script to the TMNT franchise and reworked it for Super Mario without realizing they should trash it (or make a B horror movie)

deep copper
zinc matrix
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thats why some times in the year, theres a higher chance male turtles are born, and other times theres a higher chance for females.

fleet tangle
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So climate change is gonna get rid of a gender of turtles?

zinc matrix
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quite possibly

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and in turn, sea turtles would go extinct

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but when global temperatures get that high, were kind of fucked anyways

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why am i never actually on when the vc is active

thorny dock
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does anyone else need to constantly right click volume > sounds to get windows to register all audio inputs? it's done this for 2 different brand motherboards now, for as long as I can remember

unknown.png
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USB audio receivers are always detected, but if I use my monitors speakers, monitor sleeps, I have to hit Sounds again. Same for detecting VR audio input oculus and steamvr

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ever since I was but a wee amoeba..

zinc matrix
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only had 30 minutes but made a system that generates tiles based on a size x and size y variable, though that will have to change. also added some basic movement.

regal pecan
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Godot has an actual Conway's Game of Life template someone uploaded
it does a couple strange things though

zinc matrix
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left is right, so then I thought, what if I make it a sphere?

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idk if that would work

regal pecan
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Left is right, up is down is a simple toroidal wrapping, and pretty ideal for rectangular things

zinc matrix
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imagine cgol on that

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seems like itd be pretty complicated to make tho

regal pecan
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Tricky part is the rules require each square to have 8 neighbors. I'm not sure it qualifies as "cgol" if you have to compromise on that in order to tile squares imperfectly around a sphere

zinc matrix
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i mean the same rules base can apply, itd just be 5 instead of 8

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also i cant think of a way to do torodial wrapping and still make it look cool.

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i dont know how I would do it too, teleport the player when theyre at the edge? cant think of a way to do that seemlessly

rare sparrow
zinc matrix
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maybe i could have a preview of whats going on on the other side of the board outside of the bounds, and when the player hits the bounds they wont even notice

regal pecan
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e.g. the representative grid is what you see, and is in global coords, while the actual data for the grid is in bounded coords (if x > width, x - width)

zinc matrix
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that makes sense

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thanks

timber viper
primal summit
primal summit
regal pecan
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more of a point cloud, but...

cursive crypt
fleet tangle
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You don't feel it's a bit... saucy for #lounge ?!

manic heath
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surely someone pl;ays

cursive crypt
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Is that a hidden ad?

fleet tangle
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I'm disappointed it isn't "Garlic Phone"

foggy path
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the two things the name always reminds me of, Garfield Phone and Garlic Phone

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lol

proud jay
lofty lark
soft night
cursive crypt
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I think I still have one of these lying around.

soft night
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police visit was cool alright

proud jay
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what

soft night
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yeah just get the fingerprints for passports and id card

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went too early there and helped some to direct right service room

fleet tangle
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You're in the system now, man. They've got you!

soft night
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now i can get verified soon

thin aspen
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So any news on what's going on with the GTA6 link

proud jay
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what link

thin aspen
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leak* my bad

proud jay
thin aspen
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I have a slight cybersecurity interest so I'm always curious to hear about how people actually gained access.

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I used to be an advocate for the "don't click on links" thing but that's kind of unrealistic (see what i did there) because you can't expect everyone to know how to actually check the domain of who sent the email.

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or how to use dig to see if that domain even resolves back to the IP it should.

fleet tangle
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In spam filters we trust ℒ️

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I literally never get unfiltered spam.

noble plaza
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Clicking a link itself doesn't cause much harm in modern browsers right? It's when you start interacting with the website like downloading things and giving it permissions when things start getting sketchy

thin aspen
thin aspen
proud jay
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well clicking a link could give some information already

thin aspen
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but for the most part, no it doesn't.

fleet tangle
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I'm sure I remember that back in the day some mobile phones would put their phone numbers in http headers. Or something really retarded.

thin aspen
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Bingo, if I wanted to just get some info and was doing recon clicking the link is all I need you to do, if you press the "allow microphone" use that's even better.

noble plaza
thin aspen
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telecommunications is a funny thing.

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Assuming you aren't on wifi though, now they just use the service provider as a domain.

noble plaza
thin aspen
proud jay
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for one, the fact that you clicked the link is already info that you're a potential targetg

noble plaza
thin aspen
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A lot of times they cast a wide net and see what they can catch. It's more so about getting access at first, then you can do lateral movement and privileges escalation from that point.

fleet tangle
# noble plaza fucking what

Apparently telecommunications companies using transparent proxies were adding account/phone data to outgoing requests.

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Including things like IMEI number.

thin aspen
noble plaza
fleet tangle
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Lol

thin aspen
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But if you think that's bad, the programs and webservices that run most of your power and gas systems have users/passwords like "operator:operator"

fleet tangle
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Why are people so stupid in places of responsibility?

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😦

thin aspen
noble plaza
fleet tangle
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Nuclear launch codes were, at one point, "00000000"

noble plaza
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Also ^^^ I'm assuming moderate competence in terms of security set up, but if we're dealing with dummies then all bets are off ha

fleet tangle
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I remember the day, ages ago, I was talking to the webdev of the company I worked for. He showed me some code. He put unchecked/raw get/post strings into mysql requests.

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I cried a little inside and taught him about security.

noble plaza
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Even over SSL, GET URLs get exposed. Literally the worst way to do it, I was impressed

thin aspen
fleet tangle
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Wow.

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This is why I never click links in emails I think are even potentially harmful.

thin aspen
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I hate to say it but most of the time when it comes to people doing security, it's a matter of filling chairs rather than knowing how to keep people safe because most companies are just gonna pay a ransom or use their DRP and it's business as usual.

fleet tangle
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If my bank emails me a link, I type in the bank's url and log in to my account to check stuff.

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I never click the provided link.

thin aspen
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As you should.

noble plaza
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Most scam emails I've gotten have been like "hey it's me ur CEO, I need help settling funds for a business deal, thanks bud"

fleet tangle
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I thought they were all, "You've received a prize for working so hard" or something.

thin aspen
noble plaza
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Actually, more realistically, it's all going to be logging in based off Google/ Azure/ AWS accounts.

Fucking AWS and their daily SSO shit.

thin aspen
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Once AWS started asking for a credit card to use a free service i had to stop using them.

fleet tangle
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Lol. Indeed.

thin aspen
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but the time when people weren't setting up proper security on S3 buckets was an amazing time.

fleet tangle
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You know who else does that? Scam websites. "We just need to verify your cc info... just in case."

thin aspen
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^^^ bingo

noble plaza
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The hope is you tick over and keep paying

fleet tangle
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That is true.

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I assume the free AWS thing was always free, though?

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Hasn't used AWS

thin aspen
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"How did they manage to get access to our databases????"
Has S3 bucket with a csv full of usernames and passwords for every user with open privileges

noble plaza
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With AWS the hope is you forget to clean up 400 things littered around their word-maze of a website, and keep getting billed for it

fleet tangle
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Lol

thin aspen
noble plaza
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What the literal fuck is a dangerous sea

unknown.png
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It's all clouds

thin aspen
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If you feel like this may be the last time you're on a boat, then that's the picture to click.

fleet tangle
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Squalls?

oblique cloak
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i kind of want to watch unrealfest now... Why is it not live on twitch?

fleet tangle
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I had real trouble with the one that asked you to pick rivers. "They could all be rivers, damn it! Mabye some are roads..."

noble plaza
fleet tangle
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Then realised it said "vertical rivers."

thin aspen
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@fleet tangle is your pfp supposed to be vivi or the mage from ff1. I'm leaning towards ff1

oblique cloak
noble plaza
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Festival opener dude is Aussie πŸ€”

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Australia > USA confirmed

fleet tangle
oblique cloak
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why are they going over the basics >_>

thin aspen
fleet tangle
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The project I'm working on is tomorrow!

noble plaza
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The meme talk is going to be the CHORVS one, about optimizing for platforms

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It's literally the only game on my Xbox Series X that runs out of VRAM and crashes lol

fleet tangle
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Lol

noble plaza
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Which talk is it BTW?

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Not trying to dox you promis

fleet tangle
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It's on the media & entertainment channel.

slim atlas
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your real name is robert

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hargreave

thin aspen
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One daekesh will come back as a multimillionaire game dev and tell us to git rekt

fleet tangle
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The Future of Broadcast Design and Animation

slim atlas
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you live in pencilwania

noble plaza
slim atlas
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be quiet when i am talking

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and you will address me with "your highness"

noble plaza
fleet tangle
thin aspen
fleet tangle
noble plaza
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The best business analyst I've worked with got hired by EA. I want to ask her how the move to the games industry is going, kinda want to do the same but scary :))))

fleet tangle
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I could have jumped ship recently. I decided not to.

rose hill
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Is there a way to see the other keynotes from Unreal fest, or only those streamed to youtube?

noble plaza
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Current thinking is I do dev work + game stuff as a hobby, so I'm kinda neglecting my other hobbies (music mainly). if I could just do game + dev for work I'd have much more time for music, less pay is πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

thin aspen
fleet tangle
noble plaza
fleet tangle
noble plaza
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I need to figure out how to get my foot in the door for the UE-using industry. I have a friend at CDPR actually, but the pay there sounds... yikes

fleet tangle
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I have plenty of ideas and I'm really passionate about how they should work, but I just end up playing games instead of making them.

thin aspen
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I definitely know the feeling

fleet tangle
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I have a couple of projects I've started and not got anywhere with.

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I've got a few core systems down and then just left them. 😦

thin aspen
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At one point I was an avid RPG Maker user. Then I stopped being 10

fleet tangle
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Lol.

noble plaza
fleet tangle
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I have a friend who uses things like that. SHMUP maker he's doing right now.

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He's made and sold more games than the majority of this server, though.

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He even has a light gun game in an arcade in the states.

thin aspen
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He sounds like he won honestly.

fleet tangle
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I mean, he makes about $50 max on his games, usually more like $5.

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I think the light gun game (made to order) got him about $800.

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And it takes him months and months to make them.

soft night
thin aspen
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He has made at least 1000% more than I've ever made from a game.

noble plaza
fleet tangle
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But he's really passionate about games. He puts himself down a lot because he uses the kiddy game makers instead of AAA engines like UE, but he still makes and sells games.

fleet tangle
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He goes by "prince of mars" if you ever see a game made by that, it's him.

noble plaza
thin aspen
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I mean, he could be like SWIM and beg people to write an engine for him for his RPG that he's been working on for like 20 years. For free

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So I'd say he's doing pretty good all things considered.

fleet tangle
thin aspen
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Time Crisis???? nice.

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childhood memories intensifies

fleet tangle
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Haha.

noble plaza
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Nice, (good) pixel art is rough haha. Sprites in general

fleet tangle
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He's definitely a retro gamer.

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He bought a 5TB hd just to store his roms.

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I was like "You know, the second you consolidate all your shit onto that hd, it's going to fail. Make sure you buy a second one and back stuff up."

noble plaza
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Has he tried Godot? I've heard GM -> Godot is a relatively smooth transition, and exposes a lot more possibilities in the process

Anyway, GM is probably more advanced than the tooling AAAs had a decade or two ago soo

thin aspen
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I think it's funny because I remember trying pixel art for the first time and instantly nope'd and just downloaded what i could from websites suggested by RPG Maker.

fleet tangle
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Trying to make pixel art?

thin aspen
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yeah, trying to make pixel art in MSpaint circa 2005 or something.

fleet tangle
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Hah.

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Yeah, art is hard man.

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Just like programming, it has all sorts of techniques you need to know.

thin aspen
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I just wanted to make FF10 but better and in 2D :sadpepe:

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Well I'd been into programming for a while because my older brother is like really good at it so I've always been more patient when it comes to learning cpp, or python or some other language than really anything else in life.

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I just remembered high school computer science class and using java 🀒

fleet tangle
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I liked Java.

noble plaza
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I wanted to make Pokemon Australian edition after that artist did a bunch of themed Pokemon, but I realised I'd have to actually learn to draw haha. My artsy skills are limited to banging out power chords on guitar

fleet tangle
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My older brother is not a programmer. He was a life coach. And is now a business coach.

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Sad days.

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I can play a single thing on guitar. The main riff from Smoke on the Water.

thin aspen
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I at one point tried to be a rapper.

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moving forward

fleet tangle
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Instant block

noble plaza
thin aspen
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But that was only because my oldest brother was making his own beats so i figured there's gotta be something to it.

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Now he's a brand manager.

fleet tangle
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To be fair, that's pretty cool.

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Making it in the music industry isn't easy.

thin aspen
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Nah, once you realize it's a business just like any other business it puts things in perspective.

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It's very true that people sometimes make it because they signed their life away. But then you have people like master p.

fleet tangle
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I do hope that isn't your brother's trade name.

noble plaza
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Music is even worse than games IMO - lower barrier to entry, more competition for everything, and the big hitters dwarf the others even more (relatively)

thin aspen
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Lol nah, he's a rapper from new warleans new orleans.

noble plaza
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Anything people derive some sort of satisfaction from is rough as a business, such is life

thin aspen
fleet tangle
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I do like the occasional bit of rap and hiphop, tbh, but only when it transcends genre. Like Outkast's Hey Ya! Or Gangster's Paradise. Not artists I'd ever listen to, but they have 1 or 2 songs that are universally liked.

noble plaza
thin aspen
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Believe it or not, it's really all the same. Everyone's talking about the experiences of their environment, just using different delivery methods. But that's also kinda the point. Like how people says tutorials are geared to take advantage of people who don't know any better so is the music industry.

fleet tangle
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And who can not like Rapper's Delight?!

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Everything is geared towards taking advantage of people, tbh.

thin aspen
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Correct

fleet tangle
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it's all about the $$$ at the end of the day.

noble plaza
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I dunno, there's musical acts I follow that just produce music to produce music, and don't really chase the bag for the sake of it

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I can respect that, but then they go a decade in-between releases and then I'm sad

thin aspen
thin aspen
fleet tangle
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There's real money, for the record labels and streaming services πŸ˜‚

noble plaza
thin aspen
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The indie business model is to flood platforms with content and then just kinda self promote until you make enough money to just recycle that money into advertising and then hope that people like you enough to book shows.

noble plaza
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Old bands faced the same problems, except they died and no one has heard about them. People think every second band was Beatles or some shit, I swear

thin aspen
noble plaza
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Actually, one bizarre thing I've noticed is rap acts hijacking metal bands to get on discovery playlists? Insanely annoying

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Like it will be "Song by Rapper1, Rapper2, Cannibal Corpse", while Cannibal Corpse is some dummy 'fake' act that Spotify doesn't discriminate properly

thin aspen
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That's probably the result of some PR firm rather than the rappers, I know a decent amount of rappers and none of them have the knowledge to even think to do something like that. But the reasoning behind it is, once you hear something enough times you'll start to like it.

noble plaza
thin aspen
noble plaza
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thorny dock
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shakes walker meeeehhhh back in my day gangsters were trying to be rappers, instead of rappers trying to be gangsters

noble plaza
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Like even in football (European), there's a massive push to force the academy kids to continue their education in tandem with their football training, so if they don't make it (most don't), they have a fallback that doesn't involve not existing

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I'd hate to put 100% of my survival hopes on something I enjoy, just sounds like a recipe for disaster

fleet tangle
thin aspen
fleet tangle
thin aspen
# noble plaza but **why**

People will come up with lots of reasons, but if you're asking from someone whose witnessed this stuff, the alternative is selling weed or just standing outside getting drunk all day.

thin aspen
noble plaza
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But it's not a mashup, it's a fake band created to hook into discovery playlists. I'm simply not going from death metal to rap, no matter how many times it pops up.

Obviously I'm speaking from a me perspective though, but I don't get how that could work

fleet tangle
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You might find they're paid per play, though, so by cheating discovery, they're making a small profit.

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It sounds very record label manipulation tactics.

thin aspen
noble plaza
# fleet tangle It would be cruel not to do this.

The football team I follow posted a series about their academy program, and they basically induct kids by telling them they probably won't make it. It's a brutal competition, and ignoring that fact frequently lead to maladjusted adults with no skills or prospects previously 😦

fleet tangle
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I find it very funny that people sign away the rights to their own music in their record contracts.

thin aspen
fleet tangle
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The war on drugs is also just stupid.

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Spend all that money on education about drugs, rehabilitation and regulation and everyone would be better off.

thin aspen
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You gotta think about how much money you're getting by streaming music all day doing regular activities, those pennies start to add up at some point.

noble plaza
thin aspen
noble plaza
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But there's no reason for any one purpose to be the exclusive one, life is rarely that black and white. Unless you lived pre-80s, before they invented colour

thin aspen
fleet tangle
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If you sign away that ability, you're truly an idiot.

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Even if there's a cooling off period, you should still be able to do it.

soft night
thin aspen
# fleet tangle Even so. When you're big enough, cancel your contract and go somewhere else.

The caveat being that rarely ever happens because you have to remember these people don't know how to manage their money, so they go spend it on whatever they spend it on, and forget that they have albums to make. They hardly ever have their paperwork right so they're indebted to the record label until they pay that advance money off, or sign another contract with someone else who then buys them out of that debt.

fleet tangle
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They're basically idiots.

thin aspen
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Artists are generally gonna be employees, so once they get that advance or bonus it's off to the races and they're getting bank loans to buy houses and cars and all kinds of stuff.

noble plaza
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In a business sense sure, but their skills are artistic

fleet tangle
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First thing you should do if you start to earn lots of capital is to hire a damn accountant.

thin aspen
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Like we said at the beginning it's designed to take advantage of those who don't know any better.

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I guess the thing we should add is that it's designed to take advantage of people who otherwise wouldn't see that kind of money.

fleet tangle
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I bet the majority of them have never even read their contract.

thin aspen
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No they haven't.

fleet tangle
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"Free money? Yes please! Where do I sign?!"

noble plaza
thin aspen
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I told a relative of mine that he needs to sign a contract saying that his record label doesn't own his masters and he has yet to do it.

fleet tangle
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I always read things before I sign them.

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It makes me wonder, when I sign random shit at a bank or whatever, if they get frustrated because I'm one of the few people who do.

noble plaza
thin aspen
fleet tangle
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Or one of those "sign here before you take medical test" Yes, I will read that, thank you.

thin aspen
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That's what you're supposed to do, but i think the why as to what makes them not do that is because they really don't care about down the line, they just care about right now.

fleet tangle
noble plaza
noble plaza
thin aspen
fleet tangle
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Lots of people looking for a foot in the door, though.

noble plaza
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I somehow always have to push for that one clause to be amended about IP being owned by company. EVERY contract has it, fuck off you don't own everything I do when I'm working at your company. On your devices sure, but my devices, my time... I request an explicit amendment or written clarification on that

thin aspen
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IP rules the world

soft night
fleet tangle
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My contract doesn't have that and never did.

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<o/

uncut dune
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Anyone know why Epic is only using like 10% of my available bandwidth? Definitely not a Windows issue as I have manually set it to use 100% of what it can, and I am connected with ethernet...

noble plaza
noble plaza
uncut dune
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Just for anything downloaded in Epic in general, games, unreal assets, all that stuff

soft night
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would you write a smart contract?

thin aspen
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Alexa write a contract for me

noble plaza
noble plaza
thin aspen
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You just need google home or something.

uncut dune
noble plaza
thin aspen
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Either way though, entertainment is a field in which you have to be really careful because it's designed to have a winner and a loser.

fleet tangle
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Especially if you work for EA. The loser is the consumer.

thin aspen
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EA Sports ITS IN THE GAME

noble plaza
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I'd work for EA TBH πŸ˜„ Apparently pretty nice as far as game dev studios go

thin aspen
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9.8.9 STUDIOS

noble plaza
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EA Sports, because Canada is the logical choice for a population familiar with football

thin aspen
soft night
fleet tangle
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Pretty sure anyone who worked for EA can land a job somewhere else, though.

noble plaza
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Isn't that just game dev in general?

thin aspen
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I do remember being able to cheat a lot of NCAA and old Madden games

noble plaza
soft night
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funny adobe max and unreal fest same time what

noble plaza
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They do? It'd be worse than MLS, oh god

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TBF I can't talk, A-League borders on Monty Python-ic impersonation of football at times

thin aspen
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I have a disdain for soccer because they never let me play any position other than goalie as a kid.

noble plaza
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Oh yeah, Toronto is in MLS hey

noble plaza
soft night
noble plaza
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Goalie is great, you just have to abandon your self-preservation instinct

thin aspen
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stupid running drills

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stupid balls

noble plaza
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Just go play striker, ya Peter Crouch

fleet tangle
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Or incredibly boring if you're side is a lot better than the other πŸ˜›

noble plaza
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TBF I mostly play futsal now, but in outdoors it's mentally challenging. You g from twiddling thumbs for 10 minutes to having to be ultra sharp within a second, I find it fun

soft night
fleet tangle
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I always chuckle thinking of someone called Crouch being 9 feet tall.

noble plaza
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You got his reincarnation in Darwin don't worry. Except without the height, so a lot more underwhelming lol

soft night
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i was thinking that too

thin aspen
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I just play basketball now, but ever since the pandemic (lol i'm lying ever since i had kids) I kinda stopped going to the gym

noble plaza
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I think stats go to 99, but overalls can go to 109 or something

thin aspen
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I have always sucked at volleyball, but my older brother had to play it as his fall sport in high school to help with his 🐰

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Even though he was dunking the ball in 7th grade.

thin aspen
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lololololol they thought you were the next jordan huh?

noble plaza
thin aspen
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I know the feels

noble plaza
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EXCEPT if you go above a certain dribbling stat you would double touch every time, and the turning was slower. Took me way too long to realise what was happening.

thin aspen
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Sounds like they did what the gameplay programmer for NBA jams did. good ol anti-cheat.

noble plaza
thin aspen
noble plaza
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I wonder if next gen actual physical simulation for sports games would be possible, instead of stat rolls + sell it through animation belnding

noble plaza
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24, 23 is out now

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EA Sports FC or something lol

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EA Sports FC vs eFootball, the battle of the most creatively bankrupt names possible

thin aspen
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2k games ftw

noble plaza
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Would it actually be desirable, fun, and interesting though, is anotehr thing entirely

thin aspen
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just like those

noble plaza
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This dev is an absolute legend though 🐐
https://store.steampowered.com/app/529440/Behold_the_Kickmen/

Steam
Behold the Kickmen

BEHOLD THE KICKMEN started as a silly Twitter joke, and evolved like a beautiful flower into the year's least-exciting and mostly-incorrect Football Simulation. It's football, as seen through the eyes of someone with no understanding of, or interest in, the Laws of Football.Start at the bottom of the Big Boring British Football Spreadsheet syste...

Price

$3.99

Recommendations

361

Metacritic

58

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thin aspen
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same

noble plaza
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That's the reading meme, if you're reading fast you basically look at first and last 1-2 letters, and let context fill the rest in

fleet tangle
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It's not even letters.

noble plaza
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Sorz for cringe

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fleet tangle
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It's the shape of the word.

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Totally read that np

thin aspen
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@ me next time dawg /s

noble plaza
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@thin aspen

thin aspen
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Game Idea: Twitter Beef Simulator

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You basically play as someone who wants to fight another twitter user and you drive to california to fight them and go viral on twitter

noble plaza
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Where you start creeping on their profile to dig dirt up on them to ruin their life?

thin aspen
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That's Twitter Stalker Simulator

noble plaza
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Or dis
https://store.steampowered.com/app/491950/Orwell_Keeping_an_Eye_On_You/

Steam
Orwell: Keeping an Eye On You

Big Brother has arrived - and it’s you. Investigate the lives of citizens to find those responsible for a series of terror attacks. Information from the internet, personal communications and private files are all accessible to you. But, be warned, the information you supply will have consequences…Orwell is a new governmental security program tha...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

7548

Metacritic

77

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thin aspen
foggy path
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I've played Orwell, it's pretty decent

thin aspen
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State Actor confirmed

noble plaza
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QWERTYAnon DM me babe, I have leaks from the NSA

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Yeah I really liked that game too, and it's not even that far fetched from what I've seen

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I remember having to assess an API proposal for a tool that linked people's identity blobs and social activity together for business perusal, was very creeped out when I looked myself up

oblique cloak
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Played like 7 games yesterday, not a fan what so ever... Reskinned game for profit 😦

fleet tangle
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You mean like the new FIFA each year? πŸ˜›

carmine frigate
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i never played fifa, should i start at the 1st ?

thorny dock
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if you dont start with the first how will you know whats going on in the plot?

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whenever I played a hockey game I hated when a fight would break out because I was always missing the story context from the previous games that brought those 2 to that point

thin aspen
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The fighting part of hockey games was the only part i liked. It wasn't until later that I found out the story arch behind these two individuals coming to blows over something as small as one slamming the other into a wall.

carmine frigate
thin aspen
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You need the DLC to get that info

noble plaza
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Getting Beckham ads recently on YouTube, for Qatar tourism lmao. Coincidental timing, I'm sure.

carmine frigate
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lol famous dutch player came on tv saying the "aww its all not that bad " πŸ™‚

noble plaza
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Who? Pls don't be Bergkamp

carmine frigate
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hell i have no idea.. dont follow that stuff

noble plaza
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Ah fair, I'm not watching this one too as a silent, futile protest.

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Ive watched every one since I was 5 ⚽⚽
Baby sk0g had a good taste in sports

carmine frigate
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dont really care much for any watching sport... i like drinking beer with some buddies tho

primal summit
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hockey or bust

oblique cloak
fleet tangle
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I like watching some sports.

oblique cloak
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the good NHL. the one I WANT.

fleet tangle
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Not any kind of football, though.

quasi mantle
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racing sports or bust

oblique cloak
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if your bored heres a fun little history video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1upd1xafxY&ab_channel=SOFTDRINKTV

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cursive crypt
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What is there to laugh at? It is sad.

carmine frigate
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πŸ˜›

cursive crypt
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ah, I watch on mute

fleet tangle
cursive crypt
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Is cooking, a sport?

primal summit
zinc matrix
carmine frigate
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i watch some snowboard skate ski if its on sometimes

cursive crypt
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So, moving boards?

zinc matrix
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unless this is how conways game of life goes

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wait a second thats a 9 mb video

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how did i do that

fleet tangle
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It's fucking loud. Hold space to actually see anything.

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And oh god the intro.

primal summit
zinc matrix
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i know, im not quite sure how though

primal summit
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you need to iterate over the entire board, then update the state all at once

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instead of updating each cell after calculation

fleet tangle
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I'm actually not half bad at the non-ice version, bowls.

primal summit
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calculating the entire grid's new state before changing ensures that the order you iterate over it doesn't matter and is how it's supposed to work

zinc matrix
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looks better, but i dont think its following the rules still

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ALSO HOW DO I KEEP UPLOADING THINGS >8MB???

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i dont have nitro?

primal summit
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there is a code issue, yes, but it looks better

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how are you storing the play field?

zinc matrix
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each tile on the grid is an actor

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actor has boolean variables Occupied and ToBeOccupied

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each generation I run a loop with the rules, and set ToBeOccupied for each cell

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after that, I update them all

primal summit
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does each actor have a grid x and grid y value or are you using a distance finding routine?

zinc matrix
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so yeah, grid x and y

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i cant use an actual for loop to check the rules, because using my function to find the 8 cells around a cell breaks it (makes it think theres an infinite loop), so I instead increment through an array of all the cells

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primal summit
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array of cells is how it's typically done, so in that case you'd have each cell reference it's corresponding array value and update it's color?

zinc matrix
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yeah, thats what im doing

primal summit
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it looks right assuming the center one is the fixed on player

zinc matrix
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yeah, the center one is always active, and is the player

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but i cant seem to understand why the simulation keeps failing

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im quite sure the rules are correct

primal summit
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failing how?

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a very heavily populated grid like that will mostly die

zinc matrix
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it doesnt seem to be following the rules though

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like in the video above, there was a line of 3, according to the wikipedia page, that should keep flipping to stand upright, but it just dies

zinc matrix
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but i cant quite place my finger on whats going on

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also multiple still lifes died

primal summit
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try it without the player cursor

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start with the noninteractive version

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and maybe add a blinking tick counter hud or something to make timesteps more apparent

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or alternate colors of live cells between red and green each tick for troubleshooting

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oh, stupid question!

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do you start your board arrays at 0 or 1?

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if 1, your board edge math (wich is probably modulo) is off by 1

zinc matrix
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starting first row, first column (bottom left) and going up each row

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though the middle is (0, 0)

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heres the function that creates the grid

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primal summit
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ok... not gonna lie here...

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I'm 8 hours ahead of my usual timezone, overseas, with just a phone, I'm not good with UE yet, and I'm a bit drunk...

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so I can't really tell what's going on with that at a glance

zinc matrix
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ah its ok ill figure it out

primal summit
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populate with some very predictable 3x3 and 6x6 patterns instead of random

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see if it behaves right for known structures

zinc matrix
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that middle one shouldnt keep deleting

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after all, it has 2 neighbors

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the neighbors are working as expected

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but for some reason that ones not

primal summit
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you are right and I bet I know why

zinc matrix
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please do say

primal summit
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is it checking itself?

zinc matrix
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wdym? the cell?

primal summit
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yeah

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is it counting itself in the check of adjacent cells?

zinc matrix
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no

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should it?

primal summit
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nope

zinc matrix
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only checks the 8 surrounding

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then gets a number of how many of those are filled

cursive crypt
primal summit
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we could

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the idea spawned here

zinc matrix
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yeah im going to make in cpp, just wanted to do it in bp first so i make sure ik what im doing

primal summit
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it'd probably be easier in cpp as it's just 2 nested for loops

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and a couple ifs

zinc matrix
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oh wait shit i get it now

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i forget to set ToBeOccupied to true when its between 2 and 3

slim atlas
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you cant just come in here

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asking game dev related questions

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
slim atlas
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i will punish you!

zinc matrix
oblique cloak
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UE 5.1 makes no sense... control rig btw

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zinc matrix
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also really, how tf do i keep sending videos bigger than 8mb?

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i thought that was against the laws of discord

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i mean, im not complaining, its just rlly wierd

oblique cloak
slim atlas
oblique cloak
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lmao

slim atlas
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i transferred 3000 euro today

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like a boss.

zinc matrix
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thats 43.5 less where I live

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or actually i guess the same?

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idk money conversion is confusing

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smaller number = bigger number?

soft night
cursive crypt
oblique cloak
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House of dragon season 1. I give it 3.5/10.

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it's been awful.

timber viper
oblique cloak
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im trying to figure out this new stuff lol

timber viper
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I dont know, just guessed why the change happened

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since Blueprint VM just ignores the sequence in its own bytecode

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and control rig has its own VM

oblique cloak
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yeah

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so weird ngl..

timber viper
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hmm

oblique cloak
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lots of small changes like this

timber viper
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is RigVMCodeGenerator something new? ThonkRotate

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it looks like control rig is transpiled into c++ code

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it parses node and creates a c++ file i guess

oblique cloak
broken sigil
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control rig has its own separate VM

timber viper
broken sigil
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Not sure what they mean by code generator

timber viper
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RigVMCodeGenerator.cpp

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from what I can see it parses the nodes and creates a c++ file

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it has function params like this: URigVM* InVMToNativize

broken sigil
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it isn't a thing in 5.0 so probably why I'm not familiar with it

timber viper
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then Epic introduced RigVM nativization in 5.1 πŸ₯³

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( how much optimization you need Fortnite? old_man_yells_at_unreal )

broken sigil
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Lets hope it goes better than BP nativization 😐

timber viper
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I'm still curious why BP nativization didnt go well, on technical side

broken sigil
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Still mad that they didn't port the struct function support from the ctrl rig VM to BPs....

oblique cloak
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i have noticed a fps increase from the control rig i was using in 5.0 to 5.1 like 4 - 5 frames.

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lol

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not much but hey!

timber viper
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i guess it matters for mobiles and low end hardware a lot on 100 players

broken sigil
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it might be a thing in packaged projects like what BP nativization was doing

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Doubt it's doing it in editor

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carmine frigate
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thing is ppl often make stuff like a rotator in BP instead of using a rotator component πŸ™‚

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nativizing ur whole project was generally a bad idea

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there is soo much stuff already pre made that u tend to make stuff thats allready there

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all BP components are 100% c++ ppl often forget that

broken sigil
carmine frigate
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sounds good, not my cup o tea πŸ˜„

broken sigil
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I'm collecting ideas as we will probably end up modifying or replacing Lumen on the project I'm working on πŸ˜›

carmine frigate
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would take me months just to really read that 14 page pdf πŸ˜›

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ill just w8 for the checkbox

timber viper
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replacing/modifying lumen is quite bold action to take

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are you working in next witcher game sus

broken sigil
broken sigil
carmine frigate
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is it UE6? πŸ™‚

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if not is it UE7?

regal pecan
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That white paper has a new feature worth its own white paper every half page.

oblique cloak
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i did a on off switch test for lumen and baked lighting. seems like a good move for players that want more fps. Worked perfectly.

regal pecan
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If you can use baked lighting, what is lumen for?

oblique cloak
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lumen is dynamic, baked is static

regal pecan
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If you can use baked, the scene has to be static and not dynamic. Lumen can do either, but is it worth the cost compared to intermediate techniques?

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....Did fortnite remove building so they could switch to baked lighting?

carmine frigate
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dunno.. i turned of shaddows in FN πŸ˜›

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generally ill take a perf hit over messing with the renderer

primal summit
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perhaps it's a case where a game could go either way, so test to see which is better and if dynamic is a low relative cost it's worth it for other reason

carmine frigate
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like mayB if its railshooter and camera loc/rot is known for every frame

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you could build a custom and get big gains

primal summit
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or shadows from swaying trees vs static trees

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I saw one tutorial on baked lighting that made me never want to use it

carmine frigate
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hell i make the sun purple and think it looks cool πŸ˜›

primal summit
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his advice for the render area circle thingies was "I don't know what they do, just make them about this big and drop them overlapping everywhere kind of randomly"

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he even showed the effect of being in and out of one!

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it was obvious that baked lighting is displayed for all objects for which the camera is within the circle

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thus placement should be done carefully

regal pecan
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those?

carmine frigate
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me looking at diffrent rendering features side by side..

primal summit
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everything in the same circle as the camera had lighting and shadows applied, everything outside was unlit

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etm, no...

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not unlit, unbaked, as if it were just the textures as rendered

oblique cloak
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maybe even pre bake it, then save it. and load it i dont know, we just wanted to test if it was possible first. yes it is.

primal summit
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oh, so you can bake indoors while still having a day/night cycle outside?

oblique cloak
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should work perfectly

regal pecan
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"Only one Lighting Scenario level should be visible at any time in a game. "
That's a disappointment.

primal summit
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note the word should, not shall or must

regal pecan
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Oooh, loophole territory.

primal summit
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they're saying "this is not recommended, but you do you, dude"

foggy path
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Oh shit, the Dreamworld MMO now has a branding deal with Coke!

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oblique cloak
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that's what i have been missing in my life. a good mmo to play

primal summit
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which mmo? never heard of it.
looks like a paper company? odd packaging, though

oblique cloak
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nothing better than grinding the same mobs over and over for better gear πŸ˜„

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hes kidding btw

oblique cloak
# primal summit which mmo? never heard of it. looks like a paper company? odd packaging, though 
DreamWorld's Kickstarter campaign raised $64,706, which the developers acknowledged was only a small portion of its necessary budget. "We know MMOs cannot be built with just $10K," the campaign page reads, referring to the Kickstarter's original goal. "We've secured the majority of our funding from some of the best investors in Silicon Valley." The campaign promises, among other features, "multiplayer with the population density of real cities" and a fully dynamic environment with no fixed interaction points. Each backer is to receive a plot of land commensurate to their backer tier on which they can construct whatever they want. The Kickstarter even claims that players can import 3D models from "anywhere online." If all that were in the game, it would be like Second Life built on next-next-next gen tech.```
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it was a scam game i remember this

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lol

foggy path
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Dreamworld is just like Zombo.com, you can do anything in it, be anyone etc.!

regal pecan
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at least zombo was free
I think

foggy path
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the only limit is yourself afterall

thorny dock
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shakes walker whens the last time this windows thing got a new feature anyway? I've wanted a few times to be able to disable a folder

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the space coke was better, the one where they made the flavor because some scientists somewhere said some nebula could taste like raspberry creme due to it's chemical composition or something

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wow... the infinite is possible, at zombocom

tulip orbit
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wtf. 2nd time this week... Tried to run a game from steam, it starts the process in the background but does nothing. Steam update sitting there, try to get steam to do update, steam doesnt restart and cant get it running again

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ok, run as admin worked this time for steam....

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hm. nevermind. it did an updating thing, then nothing

tulip orbit
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k the steam installer is... oh finally

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hm... wonder if maybe I should check my game drive's health after work...

zinc matrix
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Ayo was anyone else on David B R's stream just now

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Shit ended with gunfire

quasi mantle
# oblique cloak it was a scam game i remember this

Not necessarily a plotted scam per se, just that the devs are far too incompetent to get things working.

I remember there's a mention they attempt to distance cull things with fog a la old games, but they're just using translucent sphere.

regal pecan
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WHAT

quasi mantle
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That was so loud

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What even happened? Drive-by? He said something about cars in the shooting

cursive crypt
quasi mantle
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Guess we gotta wait for few hours for any update, assuming it has yet settled and not a quick drive-by assassination

cursive crypt
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... the new Uncharted is suspiciously cheap, only 50 euro

regal pecan
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new Uncharted?

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
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Yea, no charts

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Weird, there were few days without new AI art selling on the MP, something is going on.

quasi mantle
cursive crypt
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That was 4 days ago, telling ya - something is wrong.

flint pier
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Been a lot of articles recently about the legality of using someone elses trained AI to generate content.

regal pecan
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"wrong"

cursive crypt
carmine frigate
fluid bloom
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heard at work: "I wanna take the person who made these tests behind the sauna. Why on earth are unit tests a thing? I just came and programmed it correctly on first time, no tests needed"

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I want out

carmine frigate
proud jay
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does behind the sauna imply beating up, or making love?

regal pecan
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from the context it's unpleasant, but sauna?

proud jay
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must be finnish for sure

carmine frigate
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not something i ever heared at work... thats for sure

fluid bloom
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in the old days you took animals behind the sauna to slaughter them, that way it would be a short walk to wash yourself

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or something like that πŸ˜„

regal pecan
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I need to learn more about unit tests because I didn't know they were perceived experienced as inconvenient

fluid bloom
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my biggest beef is the "just program it correctly" mentality this CTO has πŸ˜„

proud jay
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I mean the fact that the guy noticed there were tests must mean the test failed

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how else would he know

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so either the code or the test was failed

carmine frigate
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i dunno the slaughter part sounds pretty bad aswell

fluid bloom
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sayings are rarely to be taken seriously

carmine frigate
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yea.. im not a man of culture πŸ˜›

fluid bloom
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this project is a microservice hellscape tbh

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the unit tests the guy was complaining about are defined in project A and then published as a nuget package

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for whatever reason

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weird reason

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then project B uses those tests

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so now if you change some data model and or functionality you gotta change project A too and publish a new nuget package with a new version

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and then use that new version in the other project to fix the tests

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I have no idea why this was done this way πŸ˜„

carmine frigate
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when i read some1 did something in a country and than got stoned... im like ... getting stoned aint that bad

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turned out... it was

proud jay
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me getting stoned with the boys on a friday night

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you can see his hesitation trying to not break the camera lol

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does your job has a sauna in the building @fluid bloom ?

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mine did when I worked in finland

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never used it though

fluid bloom
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I'm pretty sure it has

flint pier
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There's two where I work. πŸ™‚ (Sweden, oddly enough)

proud jay
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must be finish ceo

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hard hamlet
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Normally I would rag on mobile games right now

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But now that I think about it

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This is a place where people learn and grow

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So if they wanna do a mobile game, I wont judge

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Thats cool

proud jay
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they can do what they want

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I'm not doing it though

hard hamlet
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Me neither

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This is the way

proud jay
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so how much spongebob do you actually watch?

hard hamlet
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Oh I wrote that about 6 months ago

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I was on a spongebob kick for like a week

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I should change it

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The lego part isint accurate either at this point

proud jay
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too bad

hard hamlet
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Theyre raising their prices to the point where I dont care enough

proud jay
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yeah it's crazy expensive

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would love to have some lego stuff but fuck that

fluid bloom
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instead you just sit in the hot room

proud jay
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50 euros at the least for any pack

hard hamlet
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Personally

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Im more of a dollar guy

proud jay
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wtf, what's the point of a sauna without the steam

fluid bloom
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exactly my thoughts

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without lΓΆyly it's the same as stepping into an oven

proud jay
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at least piss on the stones if you don't have any water available /s

timber viper
proud jay
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still not as offended as that time a guy offered me a junior java developer job

soft night
bleak remnant
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thats alot of afk ppl

fleet tangle
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Considering the number of people on this server, that isn't very many.

proud jay
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I always wondered why afk voice chats existed

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if you're afk why are you in a voice chat at all?

fleet tangle
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It's because you go afk while in a voice chat.

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It puts you there automatically after a while.

proud jay
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throw the user out instead?

flint pier
# fluid bloom instead you just sit in the hot room

Not a sauna expert, but every public sauna I have been in, and the ones at work, there's a small bucket and a wooden spoon to use when you want to throw some water on the hot stones. But you don't have to. So it's kind if a mix?

flint pier
fluid bloom
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sure you don't have to

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but I mean, the whole point is that

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throwing too much water isn't fun though, the goal isn't to cook people