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slim atlas
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i got you

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Chat NFT

zinc matrix
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yes

slim atlas
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Mint now

zinc matrix
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i do not understand NFT

slim atlas
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poof

zinc matrix
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but i like their intention of protecting art

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maybe that could go handy on copyright when people are exploiting AI

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actually i think AI art is only dangerous if takes over the creation 100%

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if serves as a tool

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like MegaScan or something does

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it is fine

slim atlas
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that was insanely stupid

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they wanted to make all kinds of content for it

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but all they got was the old dune book copy

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and not the rights

stiff crystal
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4k monitor users be like ^

slim atlas
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good

primal summit
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did you know they wash their food if possible?

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give them cotton candy by a stream

supple apex
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Isn't panda big and chubby? Bear like?
Like the one in tekken.

stiff crystal
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you haven't heard of trash pandas?

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yes, it's a raccoon

fleet tangle
supple apex
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๐Ÿ’ก

proud jay
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finally raining all day after so much heat

deep copper
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it looked so sad

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and surprised

deep copper
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now i can say, you need to up your animal game !!!

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๐Ÿ˜ค

cursive crypt
supple apex
deep copper
deep copper
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dieter understands!

proud jay
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rwxtom ruined it

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need to get him banned from the server asap

deep copper
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it's okay, we all mixed well

deep glen
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:p

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<_<

proud jay
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my emoji chain ๐Ÿ˜ญ

deep glen
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this looks like something @tranquil inlet would appreciate.

proud jay
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not the realistic penguin shit

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I can appreciate that

deep copper
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there's a lot of people with @ penguin username here

tranquil inlet
deep glen
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well, the paper also mentions its revisited

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so people where like, hmm this trajectory is wrong.

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We need more tests.

deep copper
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i wonder who can even tell it's not real enough

deep copper
proud jay
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saved

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rwxtom can be unbanned now

timber viper
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@deep copper you were being requested in #cpp ablobwave

deep copper
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hug them for me, contractor eren!

proud jay
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I did that for you already

deep copper
deep copper
proud jay
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no

deep copper
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what

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why

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you have no problem hugging strangers in cpp !

primal summit
proud jay
primal summit
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I missed the link

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he wins in the end

deep copper
proud jay
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!user @proud jay

turbid spindleBOT
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**Dieter#6486**
Status

:green_circle: Online

ID

140633160848375809

Roles

@everyone

Joined Server

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Joined Discord

January 24, 2016, 1:45 AM UTC

proud jay
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!user @deep copper

turbid spindleBOT
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**affectionateUser#4018**
Status

:black_circle: Offline

ID

926083750276780073

Roles

@everyone

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proud jay
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so young

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!user @turbid spindle

turbid spindleBOT
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**Manny#9382** `BOT`
Status

:black_circle: Offline

ID

780548512516931604

Roles

Bots Manny @everyone

Joined Server

November 23, 2020, 10:07 PM UTC

Joined Discord

November 23, 2020, 9:41 PM UTC

proud jay
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damn, been on this server longer than manny, get owned

deep copper
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i have a feeling my older account also was made mid 2016 so that's also young lol

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!8ball kid

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: My reply is no.

proud jay
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!8ball adult?

turbid spindleBOT
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@proud jay, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

deep copper
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!8ball then 18+?

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

deep copper
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how old are you

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!roll 2 d20

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :game_die: 14, 7

deep copper
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147 !

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!roll 2 d10

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :game_die: 2, 5

deep copper
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25

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how old is dieter

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!roll 2 d10

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :game_die: 5, 10

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@zinc matrix, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

edgy ice
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Man shout out to construction workers for picking the worst morning hours to be as loud and obnoxious as possible

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Jackhammering the street at 6-7am

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e.e.

soft night
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wingsuit as all that ei gen art lately

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!8ball blue milk?

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: My sources say no.

cursive crypt
soft night
deep copper
soft night
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!8ball you want to get wings?

turbid spindleBOT
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@soft night, :8ball: You may rely on it.

edgy ice
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It was a morning lol

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Ugg.

deep copper
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imagine how early they wake up

edgy ice
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Also I'm not getting wings, but I am cooking chicken leg today

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:D

deep copper
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i guess it's so that they finish work before it disturbs others or something, physically

edgy ice
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Oh I understand why

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I'm just grouchy

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Also why we posting Gundam?

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Not that I mind.

deep copper
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๐Ÿซ‚

edgy ice
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Hug good

deep copper
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how's everyone doing today

edgy ice
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Outside of being mildly grouchy, pretty good

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UE5 going pretty smoothly and I'ma be cooking chicken later today

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So

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How bout you?

fathom wadi
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im cold sweating from anxiety whilst implementing some AWS code. FML

cursive crypt
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Burning through some bandwidth?

deep copper
deep copper
deep copper
fathom wadi
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yeah it sucks

cursive crypt
long ore
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Guys is it just me that feels everybody askin million questions and nobody has proper understanding of the engine

edgy ice
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I just imagine @deep copper just tacklehugs people randomly

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It's kinda great

deep copper
zinc matrix
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still better ranked than me

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AU you could tell us stories about yourself

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i would love to read

deep copper
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one day i met you,
and it was great!

zinc matrix
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another one

deep copper
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once upon a time, i got hugged by you <3

zinc matrix
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i never hugged anyone after my 20s

deep copper
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not irl i guess

zinc matrix
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actually i will stop chat

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i am in hate with this community

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luqtas is read-only now

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keep in mind i will be judging you

deep copper
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oh no!

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i will always welcome you here!

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(unless i get banned)

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you should change your name to luqtasJudging or whatever name tank had

soft night
fleet tangle
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TotallyNotJudging

zinc matrix
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i was thinking in creating another account, with a total unrelated name

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and just keep normal

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but the truth i do not care about what you think

deep copper
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alright, you already have plenty accounts here

zinc matrix
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i am just sad for my input and the output i got

zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
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it is just small talk

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i want to know about what drives part of your soul

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i told my whole life basically here or important parts

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still you can not find my real life instagram

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and point me in irl

deep copper
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hmm

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i think that's right

zinc matrix
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people are afraid of being anonymous on the internet

deep copper
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more like, associating an info with the current anonymous account

zinc matrix
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what is the use of?

deep copper
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you see, if i hug, that's what i am, as a brand?

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if i do something else, it might reduce the chances of getting hugs from people that do not like the part of me i disclosed

zinc matrix
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ah so that typical false background social connection

deep copper
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it would also make me defensive of my behaviours

zinc matrix
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i can get it pretty easy in any social place i go

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i am very open

deep copper
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yes

zinc matrix
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anyway

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i will just silence for a bit

deep copper
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airtight! but don't stay silent for long

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it would get lonely

zinc matrix
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i mean, excuse me ppl who opened bits here

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i remember those

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but lets cut it

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or another small talk

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my iem cables arrived yesterday

deep copper
zinc matrix
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starting with the basic ones, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adaXr-mZdLw

Provided to YouTube by Sony Music Entertainment

Waltz (Better Than Fine) ยท Fiona Apple

Extraordinary Machine

โ„— 2005 Epic Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment

Released on: 2005-10-04

Bass, Producer: Jon Brion
Drums: Jim Keltner
Recording Engineer: Tom Biller
Organ: Benmont Tench
Mixing Engineer: Dave Way
Orchestrator: Patrick Wa...

โ–ถ Play video
deep copper
deep copper
runic briar
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So how stupid it is buying 8 GPUs, they are a very good deal, off amazon? Any scams I'm not thinking of? I know they might not be real GPUs but amazon should cover the refund, so the only thing I might lose is some time? Any thoughts?

deep copper
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make sure to check if it's really refundable, i think some items are not refundable, though big items should be ๐Ÿค”

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but idk

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the other thing can be, it's a clone

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replica?

runic briar
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Yeah, I talked to a amazon rep and it's refundable. I also made sure I could open and test it without hurting the returnability

deep copper
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then, it should be good enough i guess ? #hardware to ask the pros on here

proud jay
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Why you need 8 gpus though

deep copper
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also, do check reviews and seller reputation if possible

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idk amazon all too well, or gpus

deep copper
runic briar
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Well that's part of the problem they don't have many reviews. That's why I'm trying to make sure I'm not missing a scam

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I don't need 8 gpus but I would probably build systems and sell them

night grove
deep copper
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that's a bit of a red flag, but okay, make sure you record everything when you open it or something, for evidence

runic briar
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Yeah, I know. A bit annoying but the upside is very decent

night grove
deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
zinc matrix
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would be cool to hear feedback but the truth is that i can already feel the amount of hate messages

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principally of me discording of 99% of gamers about violence and stuff

deep copper
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good thing i play nothing now !

zinc matrix
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imagine, if famous musicians when they cancel their shows, fans send hate messages

night grove
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Gamers do act pretty entitled

deep copper
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they don't get money back?

night grove
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It's not about the refund

zinc matrix
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mine will be 100% freeware, i do not care

night grove
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Some gamers have sent death threats when games have been cancelled

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Or if their favorite character is nerfed

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Or if the story goes in ways they don't like

gusty star
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GaMeRs aRe tHe mOsT OpPreSseD mInIorItY /s

stiff crystal
deep copper
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that's kinda sad

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and terrifying

foggy path
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tbh it's almost as if you take a sufficiently large portion of the total population it will include a bunch of idiots

zinc matrix
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but i highly doubt that Unity will take this path

stiff crystal
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wait you use Unity now?

deep copper
zinc matrix
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plus that guy is a high successful CEO, he probably knows how to run business

gusty star
night grove
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@foggy path I saw some months ago you were asking about Attribute Sets magically associating with Attribute System Component in Lyra. Did you ever figure that out?

zinc matrix
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all i know about Unity is how to get Csound console messages and get them on a C# script

foggy path
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@night grove I vaguely recall the answer might have been that the component gathers them from some metadata in the actor but I don't recall if it actually worked that way in my 4.27 project so not sure

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So there's a possibility that a) it doesn't actually gather b) it just works differently in 4.27 where the ability system seems in general a bit less fleshed out

night grove
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I didn't see any resolution on your message with Kaos

foggy path
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oh yeah? what was it?

night grove
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For context, Lyra does this in the ctor: CreateDefaultSubobject<ULyraHealthSet>(TEXT("HealthSet")); CreateDefaultSubobject<ULyraCombatSet>(TEXT("CombatSet"));

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No left side variables to "catch" the default sub object

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I don't like anything that "magically works" so I traced it down

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In void UAbilitySystemComponent::InitializeComponent()

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    GetObjectsWithOuter(Owner, ChildObjects, false, RF_NoFlags, EInternalObjectFlags::PendingKill);

    for (UObject* Obj : ChildObjects)
    {
        UAttributeSet* Set = Cast<UAttributeSet>(Obj);
        if (Set)  
        {
            SpawnedAttributesRef.AddUnique(Set);
            bIsNetDirty = true;
        }
    }```
foggy path
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Ohhhh

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So it's in the lyra-specific component for it

night grove
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No not Lyra specific

foggy path
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Ugh feels like the rest of the project, someone thought it was a good idea and now it's confusing

night grove
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That is the 4.27 version of ASC

foggy path
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Oh. I wonder why it didn't work for me then ๐Ÿค”

night grove
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I plan on testing it in the near future

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I'm rewriting my GAS framework to incorporate bits of Lyra that I like and to be compatible with VR

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I don't like their frequent "search all components to find the one I want" paradigm

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Anyways, thought you might like to know since you asked about it a few months ago

gusty star
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just for the casual observer, Lyra is the UE5 MP tech demo right?

night grove
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It might also be why the AS have init problems sometimes.

night grove
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Officially it replaces ShooterGame

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I've been looking at it quite a bit the past week or so

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I finally can beat the bots without cheesing them!

gusty star
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that'll probably be on my list of things to do in september when i start developing

night grove
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(I played it a bunch to get better grasp of it's "feel")

gusty star
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tho honestly I don't know if my 1660 super is gonna be able to run it lmao

night grove
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Have you done anything with GAS yet?

gusty star
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might have to wait till Nov to get a 30xx

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nah

foggy path
night grove
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Might want to start with the unofficial GAS documentation first then move to Lyra. Lyra is pretty heavily abstracted, and somewhat difficult to follow as a result.

gusty star
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I see

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I did read some of the GAS docu but ill keep this in mind.

foggy path
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Yeah it takes forever to make any sense of Lyra :P

night grove
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The game framework thing they push make it harder to digest

gusty star
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hmm so theres some behind the scenes stuff they don't really explicitly mention and its hard to see the connections between all the moving parts?

night grove
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The individual pieces aren't bad, just a lot at once

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Yeah pretty much this

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It's a fire hose of new information

gusty star
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dayumn eh

foggy path
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which is annoying because GAS isn't that complicated as general set of ideas

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it's just explained extremely poorly

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:P

night grove
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Totally this

gusty star
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maybe ill try to write some stream of consciousness style documentation as I work thru it, and then re-edit it into something readable

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I've written modding tutorials before and the like

foggy path
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gasdoc is somewhat better but it's still not great

gusty star
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i see

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interesting

night grove
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Both GAS Doc and Lyra have pieces of questionable design choices

gusty star
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seems like epic would really benefit from some technical doc writers lmao

night grove
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I'm essentially doing a 4 way "merge" between GAS Doc, ShooterGame, Lyra, and VR Exp Plugin (assuming I don't run out of time)

gusty star
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noice

foggy path
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yeah epic's documentation efforts are confusing

night grove
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I don't like how Lyra does cameras, particularly from a VR perspective

foggy path
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it feels like they have one manager in the doc team starting a bunch of things

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then they get moved to do something else and a new manager starts a bunch of their things

gusty star
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weird

night grove
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Documentation of large projects like this would be difficult

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Particularly because I assume a lot of the "plugins" may have started as small tools designed for specific teams

gusty star
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mm yeah eh

night grove
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If I was building a tool for a couple artists, I'd just chat and demo in person as the design is implemented

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I could be totally wrong on the basis of the plugins

gusty star
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true ๐Ÿค”

foggy path
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I could do docs for this in a month probably that are better than what they have now

gusty star
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but it makes sense if they scaled those ideas that the docus would be poor

foggy path
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maybe in less but I'm just being cautious about my claims lol

gusty star
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ye

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whats stopping you ;)?

foggy path
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I'm not being paid to do it

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:P

night grove
gusty star
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so fair lmao

night grove
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My guess is they don't pay someone to do it

foggy path
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Yeah

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I think they have the resources to get more people doing it but it's obviously not a priority

night grove
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The people that know the system well enough are too valuable for building / extending new things to "waste" time on documentation

deep copper
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people will figure it out anyway i guess, or some youtuber would

night grove
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The only times I've been asked to document things is when they were planning on laying me off.

gusty star
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shiet eh

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I always document my code but I am v forgetful lol

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and its moreso to remember wtf i was trying to do

deep copper
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i document in a way to know what i should change in case i need it to do something else lol

gusty star
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but I've never worked professionally as a programmer so YMMV

night grove
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I have been super forgetful lately (Stress) so my code is very well documented

deep copper
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ow, still no time for rest huh

night grove
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I'm starting rounds to find investors now

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I've self funded for the past year, now I'm going to see if I can divest my risk and get other people's money to help

deep copper
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alright, i hope that works out really

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but don't stress over it too much , life's too short for stress xD

night grove
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Future me is always cussing out past me

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"Why did that idiot do it this way!?"

gusty star
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I'm on disability for mental health and live with my parents, so I have some flexibility in how I spend my time and govt. provided money, but there are certain conditions attached to additional income so I have to be careful about how I do this lol.

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Its basically go big or go home tho

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in terms of income at least

night grove
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Government money is so weird

gusty star
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ye

night grove
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They don't care about the major corps screwing the population

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But God help you if you get a couple extra pennies as a poor

gusty star
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benefit cliffs are silly, esp when subsidies are handed out like candy

foggy path
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Yeah it's kinda like that here too.. you can get by somewhat with it, but you're not really allowed to have savings or anything, you gotta use 'em up before you get help

gusty star
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I can't make more then 6k a year in additional income, including gifts lmao

broken sigil
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My opinion on the code documentation discussion

I can probably count on my fingers how many times I had to document my code any everyone I worked with was able to read and understand it just fine

Comments are for things that are not obvious from function and variable names

In my opinion if you need to document/comment everything, you are doing something wrong

gusty star
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It might also be that I'm trying to teach myself the language haha

deep copper
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it's true that writing comments just add more lines you gotta read to figure it out sometimes

night grove
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I was previously working for idiots that had no clue what they were doing, but didn't want to keep paying for me when I finished the complicated work

gusty star
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ye

zinc matrix
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plus if you are doing solo you can reduce the amount of indications

foggy path
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I think the distinction is documenting code vs documenting systems

night grove
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That said, I do have a few "novels" next to particularly non-intuitive code (primarily due to network or GPU related issues)

foggy path
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Code technically shouldn't need a lot of docs beyond some basic things I think, but systems yes especially if they are complex

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since often how they're intended to be used is not obvious from just looking at the code even if the code itself makes sense

night grove
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I prefer descriptive variable / function / class names and am a very strict adherent to single responsibility (compared to the walls of functions I've seen in engine)

foggy path
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similarly systems often need to be developed further so documenting the intention and design choices helps keep it from becoming messy

deep copper
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it's kinda weird how #lounge is always mostly #cpp and not anything like modeling or texturing or other stuff related

night grove
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It's because us #cpp people are scattered brain and like to ramble

gusty star
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I commented the F out of this lol

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but I also wrote comments as a way to think about the overall structure before writing the code

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some of them are pretty unneccessary in retrospect lol

deep copper
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nice!

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tbh I don't understand the code there anyway so

gusty star
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๐Ÿคท java amirite

foggy path
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most of them are pretty unnecessary tbh lol

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and there's one comment commenting a commented out piece of code which just increases the confusion

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:D

gusty star
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yeah it needs to be cleaned up for sure lmao

deep copper
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as if documenting that wasn't time taking enough xD

gusty star
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but that modloader broke due to some in-game error and I couldn't figure it out so

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everything else worked fine -_-

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abandon ship i guess

foggy path
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a lot of the code I've done at work has a lot of comments, but it's mostly documenting gotchas, intent and reasons for why things are done in a certain way, as the code is fairly complex and there are reasons it works in a certain way which is not obvious from looking at the code

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someone who looks just at the code would wonder why it's done in a certain way and might change it and now it causes problems

broken sigil
gusty star
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makes sense

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I really should open source my unity games repo so I can easily share code snippets, its so janky lmao

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but the engine sandboxes you so

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its pretty ez to load XML data into that engine tho

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and other modded content

deep copper
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you should share yourself a bit easily too

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jk

gusty star
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don't i always?!

deep copper
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certainly, it's not as tough as most people on here ๐Ÿค”

zinc matrix
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people here fire virtual guns and kill virtual people online

deep copper
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!8ball have you killed someone

turbid spindleBOT
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@deep copper, :8ball: Very doubtful.

gusty star
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idk crime rates are down since the 80's

regal pecan
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makes you wonder what was going on in the 80s

gusty star
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i think?

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no internet

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hehe

deep copper
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if you don't go out of the house, you can't kill irl

zinc matrix
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there is more than just being violent

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like having less prosocial behaviour

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or high chances of being depressed on long term

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or anxious

regal pecan
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"prosocial"
not to be confused with eusocial behavior, which no human can be accused of engaging in

deep copper
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yes! we should all hug to end it

gusty star
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the way i heard it was that we live better than a medieval king but you're probably less content then they would've been

deep copper
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that's interesting

gusty star
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ye eh

zinc matrix
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i think the emotional roller coaster of being a medieval king is very different than living on modernity

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maybe you can pair yourself regarding food options and physical comfort

deep copper
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i would also be quite content if i saw cool soldiers with metal armour

gusty star
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Return to M'lord intensifies lmao

supple apex
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Did I just saw java being written in lounge?
What sorcery is this? ๐Ÿคจ
(jk)

gusty star
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pure shadow magic

deep copper
deep copper
zinc matrix
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probably healthy

deep copper
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though they probably didn't have much back then

gusty star
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Italy didn't have tomatoes until like the 1700s iirc

deep copper
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and famines and hygiene idk

zinc matrix
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eating less is tied to longevity

gusty star
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which means leonardo da vinci probably wasn't eating pasta and pizza with tomato sauce

zinc matrix
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in a fast state is basically your body checking defected cells and eliminating them

regal pecan
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carrots and carrot-related foodstuffs

gusty star
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the Mediterranean diet has some weird perks iirc, theres an island in sardininia full of super centenarians

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so-called "Blue Zones"

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(atleast by the scientist studying it)

fathom wadi
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that was based on the tomato diet right?

zinc matrix
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there is a lot of money rolling down there too

gusty star
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olive oil too i think and some other things

zinc matrix
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the healthy sample we got from society is a Peru indian tribe

regal pecan
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And welfare fraud, collecting dead relatives' pensions

zinc matrix
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and less than 13% of fat

gusty star
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this specific place in sardininia is like a wierd, v local community with low work expectations, lots of outdoor physical activity, and tons of rich friendships

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so not reflective of the modern world at all lol

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atleast thats what i'd gathered

zinc matrix
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the article is not related to longevity

gusty star
zinc matrix
#

it cites the problem Bolivian people are facing with indians heading into modernity

gusty star
#

they also have a particular genetic marker tied to longevity i guess? might be related, but its unknown at this point without further study

zinc matrix
#

and at some point on the paper it discurs about their diet and shows some data on how much mental disease these people have, which is the lowest we could find from living groups on Earth up to now

zinc matrix
#

i bet if you fast 1 day per week and do not overeat and exercise regularity, you can reach 100 without having to take medicine

#

and Blue Zone people are living their best life

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is not only their diet, it is the whole environment

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if you eat healthy but work on a coal mine without safe equipment you probably will get fucked

gusty star
#

ye ye exactly

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Still worth studying tho imo

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and finding out the exact mechanisms! for science!

zinc matrix
#

sure, but nutrition data we got up to now maybe turns the deep study of why blue zones live so long is not that relevant actually

#

as our DNA sequence changes along our life, according to what we do

#

but sure, getting the right genomes to understand about aging is neat

#

i wonder how they will apply

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and who is gonna receive this treatment

#

probably rich people on Blue Zones :\

foggy path
#

because there's no tiberium in blue zones?

zinc matrix
#

what is tiberium

#

a command and conquer dlc?

foggy path
#

what kind of a question is that

zinc matrix
#

i could not find the word tiberium on the dic

gusty star
#

its yeah, a command and conquer IP

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kind of its own alternate universe

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its pretty wild

foggy path
#

yeah I mean in C&C story later in there they grouped earth into zones and iirc blue zones were the ones most free from tiberium infestation

gusty star
#

ahhhh

zinc matrix
#

ah

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so now you are chatting

gusty star
#

Okay right I forgot about that, its been awhile

zinc matrix
#

Blue Zone should be the whole Earth

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Floating Cities ๐Ÿคฉ

zinc matrix
deep copper
topaz depot
deep copper
topaz depot
#

you're so kind and affectionate, affectionate_user!

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
#

i am addicted to Frogger on Atari 2600 now

#

it is so cute that you can hop on crocodiles and do not get eaten!

zinc matrix
#

not anymore, after level 3 there is a snake enemy

#

frogs are not enemies of snakes on video-games

polar estuary
#

I want to know why someone need this function xD

supple apex
#

Now that I think about it, it would still look messy even in cpp, that amount of parameters on a single function wouldn't look pretty in any programming language probably.

supple apex
supple apex
#

Huh... ๐Ÿค”
K, I got no comeback in mind at the moment for that one.
Setting the values of a struct in blueprint will still look messy with the amount of of wires required for the case above, can be made tidier, but probably won't be less complex.
Guess you win this time tank ๐Ÿ˜‘

deep copper
supple apex
deep copper
supple apex
#

๐Ÿ–๏ธ

deep copper
#

but do keep me in mind in case you run out of pillows

supple apex
#

@deep copper
Good luck finding other hug targets though ๐Ÿ‘

scarlet cedar
cursive crypt
#

Gotta be kidding me with all that AI art on the MP.
Maybe I have too to dump 200 icons for 50$ with a one liner they can even have a frame or some fancy effect.

graceful sequoia
#

I'm in the market for some non-Unreal C++ help and I don't know of a good Discord for that. Slackers has some rules about posting discord links, so be mindful of that, but if anyone could point me to a recommendation (either here or in DM) I'd be super appreciative

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Cause yeah, I'm banging my head on the wall with this one

#

Not an invitation to DM me a zillion crypto-scam discord links ๐Ÿ™‚

cursive crypt
#

Not sure I know C++ discords ๐Ÿค”
What kind of a problem you have?

zinc matrix
#

and there is a C++ symbol on its thumbnail

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obs: i never got answers about shell tasks shortcuts on Visual Studio there ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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hehehe

cursive crypt
#

Texture packs, some icons, some avatar packs, etc.
Maybe a new tag is needed, not that it is not obvious.

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^

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yeah

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But at least it has a furry.

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lol, yeah, e.g.

#

As per each market, there are always some sus offers, so gotta live with it I guess.

graceful sequoia
graceful sequoia
#

and before yall judge--- yes i would love to just be in VS proper for this. I yearn for it. But VS Code is a good middle ground between that and what Linux devs seem to like: raw TTY and block device files

cursive crypt
#

Vim btw

graceful sequoia
#

exactly

cursive crypt
#

Anyway, you sure your new returns bogus? You can always debug it.

graceful sequoia
#

i did, the best i can. I disbelieve it so much that I had to (gasp) trace

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I debugged it in gdb, I debugged it using VS' WSL attach

cursive crypt
#

And?

graceful sequoia
#

it seems to depend on the particular build whether its actually null, or a bogus pointer (<100 value, like 0x80 or something)

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The builds take a stupidly long time, probably due to WSL2 sucking

#

So it feels like undefined behavior

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And Valgrind saying its uninitialized actually feels like what I'm seeing

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But it just doesn't make any sense

#

wouldnt be terribly surprising if its common with the particular executable im making for this particular spot on the stack to be filled with a low integer pointer value

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but given the code you can see-- it would have to be some kind of configuration silliness

#

I just have no idea what that could possibly be

cursive crypt
#

I have the feeling you haven't debugged the new, is it failing only on that type or in general?

graceful sequoia
#

its failing right here every time

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Now this new is a little deceptive

#

There's a lot going on in that new Thread()

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but in order for it to behave this way, I'd think it would have to do something exceptional

cursive crypt
#

So, you can new everything else? Just that type or that type in that location?

graceful sequoia
#

Oh- yeah I haven't tried that. It takes about 8 minutes to compile just the object files for the binding on an Intel Core i9 12900K in WSL2

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So the dev cycle hasnt made that an appealing direction to go down

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There's about 20 or so moderately sized C++ files in this project to compile. Linking is rough because libwebrtc is massive. That is about 4000 object files to compile, takes about 20 minutes on CircleCI, and about an hour in WSL2

#

So, you can new everything else? Just that type or that type in that location?
I'm assuming you mean trying to insert some other news and validating the result prior to this call.

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Is it possible that if you misconfigure things in such a way, that throwing a C++ exception can look like the call was just aborted and nothing was placed in the return value, leaving it undefined?

cursive crypt
#

Was already 1h since you had this problem, that's few tries at least. Go investigate the problem first.

graceful sequoia
#

I have been working on this for about a week.

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With no progress ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

cursive crypt
#

Well, you haven't really debugged that new?

broken sigil
#

Is there a new overload for that type that's somehow failing?

cursive crypt
#

I will repeat, see whether it works for that type, other types, other locations, etc. Look at the disassembly.

graceful sequoia
graceful sequoia
#

the only failure I've seen anyone talk about would be memory allocation failure. But that's incredibly unlikely when it is happening identically in CI and locally with 64GB of ram

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there is another form of new that is allowed to return null, but it should never return a bogus pointer, and that form isn't used here anyway

#

no I'm doing something dumb, and it feels like it has to be the configuration and build of either libwebrtc or the binding code. Also, I never edited this particular file, it's identical to what it is in the base library (though libwebrtc is upgraded)

#

could be some horrid stack stomp but valgrind and asan ain't showing it

broken sigil
#

Hm don't really have an idea but if new works fine for any other type just before where it usually fails it might be something to do with with an overload for that type

But yeah with exceptions disabled pretty sure it should abort

graceful sequoia
#

I did look for a new operator overload and there wasn't one

#

should be using the standard allocation. Here's a question though: Does the standard library dictate new's behavior or the compiler?

#

And is it the application compiler, or the compiler that compiled the library, because FML, they are different here

#

it's gotta be something dumb. Google builds this in CI literally all day for Linux x64

cursive crypt
graceful sequoia
#

Well messed up in the sense that Google messed with it, yeah. But it's the same libc++ that powers the chrome we are using

#

There is only one, I can guarantee that, because libc++ is careful about this. they compile to std::__1

broken sigil
#

I think new implementation is defined in the standard library but don't hold me on that, I'm not 100% sure

graceful sequoia
#

I might just tell it to build with libstdc++ and see what happens in CI

#

it's not clear why they didn't do that originally but it is obviously an intentional choice when I dig into the revision history

#

each attempt to change config takes at least 20m to see a result, this sucks

#

never try to work with Google's c++ infra

#

Well, in any case thanks for taking a look @broken sigil and @cursive crypt -- as usual this has been more helpful than elsewhere at least so far

#

I do feel like I should ping Laura but ehm.... huh

#

@sand oxide hmmm is it this one? Lorash was a bit more unique

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if not then sorry "other Laura"

#

ah yep sweet, correct laura

broken sigil
#

Yeah it's tough to say what's really happening but wouldn't be surprised it has something to do with their custom library

graceful sequoia
#

Yeah so then I have to figure out how a std library provides new

#

and dig into that ๐Ÿ˜“

broken sigil
#

also takes notes to stay away from Google's stuff ๐Ÿ˜…

graceful sequoia
#

extremely doubtful any GDB fu is going to get me stepped into new

#

OK so can I take a minute to say that Linux, G++ and especially GDB is crap compared to the Windows dev experience with VS?

#

GDB is nightmare fuel comparatively. And I have spent a fair amount of time with GDB over my years --- even still had muscle memory for a fair amount of the commands

#

I wish VS' GDB frontend support was a bit better though

#

in case anyone didnt know about that (VS2022)...

#

look at them being all FSF friendly and calling it "GNU/Linux"

#

oh, lldb hmmmmmm

#

eyyy ive still got it (never used this thing before)

#

even better! linux debuggers strike again! gdb will allow you to set this breakpoint while complaining that its not loaded yet (it cant be, i havent started anything), lldb will not. ๐Ÿ†š

#

MS: "with the instructions in this comment by someDude in the forums"

fluid bloom
#

I wonder if this would be a good modern heroes of might and magic 3 replacement https://store.steampowered.com/app/867210/Songs_of_Conquest/

Songs of Conquest is a turn-based strategy game inspired by 90s classics. Lead powerful magicians called Wielders and venture to lands unknown. Wage battle against armies that dare oppose you and hunt for powerful artifacts. The world is ripe for the taking - seize it!Adventure AwaitsExplore a wide variety of maps with diverse enemies and valuab...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

3112

โ–ถ Play video
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the art style at least hits the spot

cursive crypt
#

huh... what do you know, interesting

#

Modern pixel art

coral dust
deep copper
gusty star
supple apex
#

500 a month is pretty expensive for the lowest tier actually.

fluid bloom
#

lol 500 a month is more than what I pay for my car loan

supple apex
#

Is the model quality guaranteed?
Haven't seen the result based on what source.

fluid bloom
#

that's a ton of money for something that might or might not generate something you want at the quality you want

#

with freelancing you can at least provide feedback

#

try giving feedback to a trained AI system ๐Ÿ˜›

#

fuck that then

supple apex
#

Buying a base model then modify it sounds like it makes more sense tbh, not sure I trust an AI to make 3d model with good topology, 2d concept art maybe, but 3d model, not so sure, feel bit premature, probably in a few years.

ancient ingot
#

๐Ÿคฃ

cursive crypt
#

lies

ancient ingot
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

When the setting sun illuminates a forming SuperCell formation.

knotty skiff
#

Mfw when 70 dollars

deep copper
deep copper
#

i really don't think working with a messy topology after paying 500 is a nice idea

#

but maybe it works, that's why they charge so much
or they want to atleast get a few buyers so that's profit enough and they leave

supple apex
supple apex
deep copper
#

and there's too many tiny unnecessary props or something

deep copper
#

i reported a nitro scam in a nearly dead server weeks back, it's still there. so reporting a message barely does anything huh

deep glen
#

probably because its nearly dead XD

deep copper
#

i hope they pay more attention to active servers then

#

in a nearly dead server people can see the scam for months though

#

i did warn people to not click but eh

#

okay so it was posted on aug 5, i reported 3 hours later on aug 5.
it has about 9 more messages since then, 11 including my warning

#

server has about 30 online and around 210 offline

deep copper
#

can't wait to use other people as controllers ๐Ÿ˜‹

soft night
proud jay
#

@tawdry star should never have given him the idea to DM people ๐Ÿ˜”

#

this is vein game, but renamed btw

tawdry star
proud jay
#

you gave him the idea to dm you ๐Ÿ˜ญ

tawdry star
#

Well, about to block someone now

proud jay
#

๐Ÿ˜„

tawdry star
#

I did blow him off yesterday. Hasn't spoken to me since

proud jay
#

he's accusing me of being 33 years old with 15 years of experience now

tawdry star
#

Huh? ๐Ÿคฃ what does that even mean

fluid bloom
#

what an idiot

proud jay
#

one message away from blocking him tbh

tawdry star
#

This is peak comedy

#

Sent me this and buggered off ๐Ÿ˜†

fluid bloom
#

he's trolling you

#

I bet it's manny

proud jay
#

gg I did Sprint

#

what does that even mean ๐Ÿคฃ

soft night
#

!8ball have you buggered Dieter?

turbid spindleBOT
#

@soft night, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

tawdry star
soft night
#

when someone go for that you could offer that "could you stream it" so as a test if they will show they skills

deep glen
#

O_o

deep copper
deep copper
deep copper
proud jay
#

Pls no one dm me

deep copper
# tawdry star

on a serious note, is that web based IDE not cpp ๐Ÿค”

umbral condor
#

Hello all ! I'm currently developing a puzzle game in UE5, and I'm having a hard time finding how to accomplish one of the core mechanics, where should I ask for help ? Or at least some advice

deep copper
proud jay
umbral condor
deep copper
# proud jay

that honestly looks like a good approach to figure out info

deep copper
proud jay
#

True

deep copper
#

come on, correct me

ancient ingot
#

you got 14 kids? god dam you've been busy

unborn lotus
#

Don't think you're allowed to live in antarctica unless you're a scientist or military

proud jay
#

I said uzbekistan

#

Which is of course still not the truth

#

But thatโ€™s what I said

deep copper
ancient ingot
#

๐Ÿคฃ

deep copper
ancient ingot
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ when does he have time

deep copper
#

i have no clue

deep copper
ancient ingot
#

well thats..... ๐Ÿ˜

tulip orbit
#

real game devs dont have social lives. or gf/bfs/kids

ancient ingot
#

i got a 9 year old daughter though................

tawdry star
proud jay
#

I don't actually have 14 kids

#

I have 0 for now

ancient ingot
#

that you know of ๐Ÿ˜‰

tulip orbit
#

I dont have a social life or that, so now I need to get the gamedev part going

proud jay
soft night
#
deep glen
#

meaning if the game is good, you get praise, if the game sucks, you get all the hatred

ancient ingot
#

fuck twitch they're more interested in tits and ass nowadays

tulip orbit
#

who isnt?

proud jay
#

asexuals probably

deep copper
proud jay
#

you need to become professional hugger

#

I think they call it prostitution or something

#

jk

#

don't ban me

deep copper
#

:P

proud jay
#

hmm

#

how do you spoiler tag a gif

deep copper
#

you add SPOILER to it's filename, so basically you gotta download it and send or something or copy paste idk

proud jay
#

that's boring

deep copper
proud jay
#

I have no idea

#

dragonball is a weird world

deep copper
#

very weird

proud jay
#

when uploading something there is a spoiler checkbox anyway right?

deep copper
deep copper
proud jay
#

very cool

deep glen
proud jay
#

there's a new movie?

#

is that why they're suddenly in fortnite?

deep glen
#

prolly

deep copper
proud jay
#

at least it's not live action ๐Ÿฅฒ

deep copper
#

or old...

#

recent*

proud jay
#

I have a love hate relationship with that new animation style

#

it looks kinda cool

#

but the old style had so much character

deep glen
deep copper
#

i didn't know anime movies aired in there

proud jay
#

same

deep glen
#

nowadays occasionally

deep copper
#

well it is a movie so makws sense

deep glen
#

i'll probably be the oldest fart there

proud jay
#

bring a nephew or something with you to appear less suspicious ๐Ÿ˜„

deep glen
#

bringing my younger brother

#

3 years younger XD

deep copper
#

forever young!

deep copper
proud jay
#

I need to get kids just as an excuse to do childish things in public

#

and buy lots of toys

deep copper
#

so you are safe

deep copper
#

the things you want to

#

don't hold back

proud jay
#

ok I kinda want kids as well though

deep copper
#

don't wait for children

proud jay
#

so it's a win win

deep copper
#

oh then alright

#

best of luck!

proud jay
#

are you having a stroke?

#

should I call an ambulance

deep copper
#

idk why the w keeps showing up instead of e

deep copper
#

i am sure i hit e

deep copper
deep copper
proud jay
#

hmm

deep copper
proud jay
#

no you are

edgy ice
#

i mean lions are just big cats

#

if a lion likes you, you can prolly kiss it

#

i still wouldnt risk it tho, idk man

deep copper
edgy ice
#

sure but so is like

#

most politicians

#

rofl

#

speaking of animals being larger then you really expect, my neighbor got himself a rescue

#

its like a half wolf breed

#

hes YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE

deep copper
#

that's a dog?

#

rescue is a breed?

edgy ice
#

no its just a lazy way of saying "rescued animal"

deep copper
#

ah

edgy ice
#

my dog is a rescue actually

#

original owners neglected him as a puppy

edgy ice
#

the dog is a cute thing, friendly enough

#

but its still a half wolf ig, owner said it was so im a bit cautious

#

they can get violent

soft night
tulip orbit
deep copper
edgy ice
#

i unno, owner never told me

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

honestly true.

fleet tangle
#

(until the rescue dogs run out)

deep copper
edgy ice
#

like usually im pretty middle road with these kinda things but the dog market is gross man

deep copper
#

then wouldn't normal dogs turn into rescue dogs because no one took them in?

edgy ice
#

uhhh, yes and no

#

ish

#

sorta

#

cuz theres people who breed and sell dogs

#

and while it in itself is a pretty harmless act, some breeders are straight up evil

fleet tangle
#

Eventually.

tulip orbit
fleet tangle
#

Especially to make money.

deep copper
edgy ice
#

meanwhile rescues have a lot of undesirable breeds

#

older dogs, dogs with deformaties

#

pitties

fleet tangle
#

"Undesirable" not dog is undesirable! ๐Ÿ˜„

edgy ice
#

well i use undesirable as the defining term for dogs that people generally dont go for

fleet tangle
#

Except this one

deep copper
#

okay so fancy dogs would come to an end , nice!

edgy ice
#

well thats a whole unrelated topic but yes

#

if youre looking to get a pet

#

go to a shelter.

#

rescue a poor dog

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

and dont believe the lies, pitties can be trained to be the sweetest loving lil bastards you ever did meet

fleet tangle
#

If the 99% went for rescue dogs or just puppies from friends/etc the world would be a better place.

deep copper
#

that sounds nice!

edgy ice
#

tbh there should just be more laws punishing abusive breeding tactics

#

i mean, thats how we ruined pugs

#

no oversight meant people kept forcing pugs to breed with direct relatives to keep pure bred pugs, creating one of the most unfortunate breeds of all time

deep copper
#

...who likes pugs ?

fleet tangle
edgy ice
#

they used to be INCREDIBLY popular animals

fleet tangle
#

Laws for paws!

edgy ice
#

actually, like

#

pugs were super super sought for

#

and pure bred dogs have always been a sign of status...for whatever reason

#

so some breeders started turning the family tree into a family circle and lo and behold

#

the modern pug.

deep copper
#

i wonder if they looked cuter or something before

#

they kinda... don't seem that good

deep copper
edgy ice
#

they used to be adorable actually

deep copper
#

ah, so they had a smaller mouth than most other dogs

#

and no wrinkles back then

#

and big eyes

edgy ice
#

longer legs, slimmer build

#

longer snout

#

eyes fit in face

deep copper
#

poor things man

edgy ice
#

hell, even when the breeding circle began and they started making the gene pool into a gene puddle

#

they didnt look that awful

deep copper
#

it's a bit alien like but not too bad yeah

#

๐Ÿ‘ฝ

#

it seems like it can also run

edgy ice
#

yea....pugs are selective breeding taken to their most extreme with no oversight.

deep copper
#

๐Ÿ˜”

edgy ice
#

not that selective breeding is bad, im not implying that

deep copper
#

if rescue can put an end to it, so be it

#

rescue is like organic vegetables i guess

edgy ice
#

ehhhh i wouldnt say organic veggies

#

its more like the reject pile of veggies

deep copper
#

aw :(

edgy ice
#

like yknow how when you go to the supermarket every single tomato is perfectly round

#

and plump?

#

well there were hundreds of weird tomatos that have like buldges or weird outcrops

#

still delicious but "less desirable" so its shoved into the reject pile

deep copper
#

wait this is scary

#

that means bad selective breeds can end up there

fleet tangle
deep copper
#

selective breeders wouldn't have to worry

edgy ice
#

^

#

its becoming more common to sell weird produce and im glad because it means less wasted food

fleet tangle
#

The big sad thing is that there's enough food wasted in the EU to feed everyone in Africa.

#

There's just no profit in giving it to them.

deep copper
#

๐Ÿ˜”

edgy ice
#

man i used to work retail

#

yknow how much good food is tossed because its near its expiry date

#

and we legally cant give it away

#

well "legally"

deep copper
#

ah yeah, i did hear that happens

edgy ice
#

i dont think theres a law saying we cant

#

but its really fucking infuriating

deep copper
#

i remember that many restaurants do give away food no one ate

edgy ice
#

i got fired from my very first supermarket job because i got caught leaving clean boxes with good food in an area where someone digging for scraps could find it

#

there were homeless in the area

deep copper
#

rip

#

well on the bright side atleast bacteria eat the old food right? right..?

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

edgy ice
#

well thats the annoying part really, say we cant sell the food

#

sure, fine

#

but why is it going to a landfill?

#

that food can be turned into compost

deep copper
#

that is quite a waste yeah

#

no matter what

edgy ice
#

me ma has a HUUUUUGE backyard garden

fleet tangle
#

These initiatives take money.

edgy ice
#

i was raised to toss banana skins and other stuff into the garden

fleet tangle
#

And they piss off people who actually make compost.

edgy ice
#

bugs eat it, it rots away, becomes plant food

fleet tangle
#

The EU would rather pay people not to produce food.

edgy ice
#

i think the only issue with this list

#

is the public transit part

#

sure, im lucky i have a web to any part of NYC and direct lines to the entire east coast

#

but the moment you leave NY, infrastructure is straight up prehistoric

#

further inland you go, the worse it gets

#

for a huge chunk of the US, your only pick is a car, even walking/biking isnt practical in 100 degree weather, travelling for hours on a bike to get to costco

#

we should be prioritizing making electric cars safer and more efficient

deep copper
#

so the first and forth point actually saves the planet ๐Ÿค”

rugged nymph
#

What is this ? Yet another New Age cult thing ?

deep copper
#

no idea

rugged nymph
#

Teenagers wanting to save whatever like superheroes wannabe ?

#

In 5 to 10 years you'll want to see the whole thing burn don't worry.

edgy ice
#

i mean, this is less "superhero" and more just doing something

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really the correct answer is to vote out politicians who dont allign with your wants and vote in who do

proud jay
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good thing you get lots of voting options /s

edgy ice
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and pressure the government to set laws to punish companies for doing practices that damage the enviroment

deep copper
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it's better than wishing to waste stuff and ruining others life as well

proud jay
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good luck pressuring governments against companies sponsoring them for billions

edgy ice
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oh sure, 100%

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no argument there @proud jay

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better to at least try, the more that do the more likely it is to happen

deep copper
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i saw a video where vegans were protesting by dumping milk in a store

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this is better than that

rugged nymph
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Fucking Captain Planet it's his fault.

deep glen
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no need to curse

deep copper
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oh yeah, the automod pings mods each time you curse :(

edgy ice
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i unno man, those shows were stupid but they tried to send a message to kids and I really respect that

deep copper
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it's all about creating awareness first so yeah

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sadly a lot of stuff ended up with hypocritical moves but whatever

rugged nymph
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A phoque

edgy ice
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i mean, look at seseme street. started in 1969 with the explicit goal to teach kids all the basic stuff but have a cast of every race, gender, colour, etc

rugged nymph
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Oh yeah awareness, like beine woke.

edgy ice
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id say it helped people out

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better to try and fail instead of not trying and letting the status quo be the status quo

deep copper
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i mean, there's a reason why many places now don't look like the industrial revolution era, with smoke and all everywhere all the time

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so hey atleast it's slightly better than that

edgy ice
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ye.

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on less negative topics, i was blessed with a bunch of new releases from a lot of artists i like recently

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my spotify gained like 20 new songs in my playlists

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๐Ÿ˜„

deep copper
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that's cool!

edgy ice
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also im just happy some of the smaller artists i like are now blowing up, Tkay did something for league of legends recently

deep copper
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so they have learned the art of latching onto popular stuff , cool!

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that's way to grow online

edgy ice
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well i think riot came to her to make the music

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lol

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something for wild rift

deep copper
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i have no idea what that is but i see!

edgy ice
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shes been poppin off with a lot of different artists tho, she did a thing with RTJ last year, which was sick as all hell

deep copper
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nice nice

edgy ice
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i dunno i been really happy these last few years, music is just getting better and better

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the hip hop scene is poppin off, we past the era of mumble rap and the generic radio crap of the early 2010s

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getting some actual interesting stuff

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metal is having a slight revival, especially if youre into power metal/metalcore

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even regular metal though

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electronic scenes are doing cool stuff and established genres are getting some fresh looks

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phonk is just a thing now

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super sick stuff.