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zinc matrix
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actually it was more, is machine learned behaviour in-game expensive

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but is just a layer on top of rules your code

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dumb moment

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Yeah personally I've been having a smaller existential crisis over Framebuffer vs DataBuffer... Framebuffer should really be FrameBuffer I feel like 😦

regal pecan
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stop buffing your frames

scarlet cedar
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time for #framedebuff

regal pecan
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Framebufferer

scarlet cedar
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buffer that buffs frames

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swol frames

scarlet cedar
tulip orbit
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I dont know what those are, so probably not 😦

regal pecan
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Let me see if I remember this correctly: K2 = Kismet2
Blueprint nodes implemented in cpp (but aren't they all?)

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I don't know why some nodes would be K2 and other nodes not.

zinc matrix
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why Unreal Engine updates add new stuff instead of getting rudimentar?

regal pecan
zinc matrix
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minimalism will take over the general preference of humans on Earth

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it is no piracy, it is the site about the Poland releasing some classicals for free!

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if someone wants to synchronize 🙂

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i do not stream because it feels a waste of GPU

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i like mine fast running directly into the point

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that is why i am watching this movie! to decide between video-games or music only

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maybe it will work

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hops out to the screen

tulip orbit
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its windy outside

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I can hear stuff in the construction site next door getting blown around

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now I'm just waiting for a piece of plywood to come flying off the unfinished 5th floor

deep copper
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can you destroy it?

left granite
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am i the only one who want to try this ?

tulip orbit
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yes

zinc matrix
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the end

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did not decided anything yet

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maybe i should watch another movie

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decides to take a sleep

tulip orbit
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dont take my sleep, I need it

deep copper
tulip orbit
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why?

left granite
deep copper
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so i will give it someone who needs it!

tulip orbit
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I am thinking about sleeping.... hmm

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but I'm actually somewhat making stuff in my game....

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slowly, but

deep copper
tulip orbit
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I have to capitlise on my motivation when it happens tho

deep copper
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🥓

tulip orbit
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noms the bacon

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thanks 🙂

idle smelt
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cursive crypt
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What is good about them?

slim atlas
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I challenge you to set your visual studio font to papyrus

tulip orbit
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Why, is it better than webdings?

deep copper
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thanks, now i know what fonts to avoid

foggy path
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Wingdings > u

glacial finch
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Ah thank you! :)

cold aspen
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Blueprint Bad?

cursive crypt
trail peak
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Hi everyone, I am trying to find a tool/plugin that was getting a lot of traction a couple of years ago, it was supposed to streamline asset management across different DCC apps, including Unreal Engine, it was supposed to do a lot more to streamline game dev, especially level design, but I am not able to remember the app and I was hoping to find some help here, it was being developed by 2-3 people and it's primary interface was very simple, similar Spotlight Search in macOS

mossy nexus
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Not ringing any bells.

trail peak
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found it!

ancient ingot
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👍

zinc matrix
tulip orbit
gusty star
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papyrus is bad, comic sans is bad... hmmm

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tho these days its easier to find good fonts then bad

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(creative market, for instance, has plenty!)

ancient ingot
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Arial ftw !!

zinc matrix
tulip orbit
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uhhh.... nope

zinc matrix
tulip orbit
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yes

zinc matrix
gusty star
ancient ingot
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🤣 yush!

gusty star
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yuuuuuus the local art house theater is playing a movie I want to see the day before my birthday, yuuuuuus

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the gods are good

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heres a trailer for it!!!! if you like the 90s, comics or dark coming-of-age stories then check it

deep copper
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ah, cool!

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it has a lot of car crashes

zinc matrix
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god is dead

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i am sorry

gusty star
fleet tangle
mossy nexus
deep copper
tulip orbit
zinc matrix
zinc matrix
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oh! so many replies, i am getting popular on this thing

deep copper
zinc matrix
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:0

gusty star
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Luqtas IS the anti-preacher, coming this fall from Paramount

zinc matrix
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i was reading a text some days ago, that even if god does not exist, it participated on human society

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that is a interesting perspective

zinc matrix
zinc matrix
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my brain tells me that

deep copper
zinc matrix
mossy nexus
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this infers that there were gods before at some point, to which I would ask which gods and can you prove either their existence or non-existence 😄 😇

gusty star
zinc matrix
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@mossy nexus did you google this answer?

gusty star
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its about the effect god had on early society, in a sort of Darwinian way

deep copper
mossy nexus
zinc matrix
mossy nexus
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What you can do is have an unproven hypothesis though.

zinc matrix
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i was thinking today about that is actually good that people inspire themselves on a morally 'perfect' entity

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i have my critics about mirroring yourself on that... but maybe the general population does not like to think much

zinc matrix
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which can have problems on its foundation

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like, we are having a civil war right now

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so i do not know if i trust society as whole

deep copper
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i guess

zinc matrix
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why not shallow?

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corals thrive on shallow waters

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and they have more biodiversity than the deep ocean

deep copper
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relatively speaking

zinc matrix
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lovely

deep copper
zinc matrix
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stop the church thing

deep copper
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that's not church! that's wedding

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⛪ this is church

zinc matrix
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yeah but it has a cross

deep copper
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can you even see the cross, it's so tiny xD

zinc matrix
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why i would call some build-temple of god with a object that was used to kill thieves?

deep copper
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i have no clue !

zinc matrix
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that is one thing that fascinates me about christians

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90% of the time, their figures are about Christ dead

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what the heck

deep copper
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christ was jesus?

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or is this someone else

zinc matrix
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yeah

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Jesus Christ i think was the name of the guy

night grove
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It is a lot easier to worship someone that died so long ago that no one really knows them

zinc matrix
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but is not bible about its life / thoughts?

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i never read it

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once i took a page to smoke weed when i was teenager

night grove
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Christians can't even agree what his race was

gusty star
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its divided into different books, all with different authors

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so make of it what you will lmao

zinc matrix
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that is easy

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but i suggest some more updated interpretation

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there is so many authors, thinking about morals and ethics....

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maybe one day bible will be substituted for a sociology book?

night grove
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Doubt it. People are too rooted in believing what their religious leaders tell them to believe.

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And the religious leaders have everything to lose if the bible is replaced

zinc matrix
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once i was travelling, and i stopped at a church, at the end they were trying to sell olive-oil in a 5 mililiters package for around 40$

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saying that was blessed by another authority on their branch of christianity

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🧻 _eyes

night grove
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Which region of the world was this in?

zinc matrix
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Brazil

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i think a good analogy it is the morons of USA

deep copper
deep copper
deep copper
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you talked about this before

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Achromatic was there as well if i recall correctly

zinc matrix
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ah

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yeah, i knew i chatted this before but i did not remembered about Achromatic

deep copper
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i recall achromatic said they left mormon thing

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because it felt weird or something

tranquil karma
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Dose anyone know any good tutorials on setting up control rig?

tribal cipher
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sooo is unreal engine 5 good/ready for vr?

timber viper
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this is not grape channel

slow lion
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hi

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where do i ask for help with an unreal game?

timber viper
zinc matrix
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#🍇

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that is the channel you should head

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you hair is purple for a cause

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and i helped you find!

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what a disgrace

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8 months developing modelling a game, full time

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to want to give up for produce music

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hahaha

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i think i will smoke one cigarette, holy circuits

timber viper
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How come a few nodes can count up to 50kb on memory Thonk

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single node almost takes 2kb

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now I wonder Aquanox Inc.'s BP memory sizes

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it increases 2 kb per placed BP node

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any node, either pure bp node or a custom fancy K2Node

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its more or less 2kb always

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Yeah its Darker Nodes

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didnt think of it

zinc matrix
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can a third party plugin reduce the size of a pure blueprint?

deep copper
zinc matrix
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what is the closest thing i can get for Visual Studio or just an background app on the field of Emmet (for VScode)?

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but i am not looking for HTML stuff, just plain text

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there is AutoKey for Linux but i can not find one for Windows

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e.g.

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types: ':c4'

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and it gets translated automatically to: 'i. + x 8'

slim atlas
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uninstall your intelli guys

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its full of braindead coders using it

fluid bloom
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I should install HoMM 3

foggy path
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yes

fluid bloom
foggy path
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the visual style in those older ones was also very nice

fluid bloom
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three is pretty timeless

foggy path
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the new ones look like this

fluid bloom
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yea that just sucks

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similar thing can be seen in simcity and cities skylines

foggy path
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I've heard some of the new ones aren't bad in general, and it's not bad looking, but it's just visually significantly less eye-catching and more generic fantasy feeling

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oh how's that in sim city and cities?

fluid bloom
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well I mean, simcity 4 is 2d sprite based and cities skylines uses 3d models

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and the models in skylines aren't even that good 😄

foggy path
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Ah

fluid bloom
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simcity looks far superior

foggy path
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It never bothered me that much in those games, because the visual look and feel was still kind of similar I think

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there is certainly somewhat of a difference in the style and perhaps the color palette

fluid bloom
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yea the only bad thing about sprites is that they are.. well, rectangular 😄

foggy path
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Civilization was one series where I kinda see it as well actually, because it feels like as the 3D detail and stuff increases, the information and recognizability decreases

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So it becomes a bit more noisy at a glance and it feels like you need to spend more time looking at it to get the information you need

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but I guess you do get used to it and they do look good in general so it's not really like a huge problem or anything, but just something that you do notice when games increase the 3D fidelity of things

foggy path
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Yeah it's not too bad but at least to me the 2D art has much more charm to it

cursive crypt
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Also it is similar reason I liked civ 2 and 3 style more than everything after them. 3d kinda killed that vibe.

timber viper
cursive crypt
slim atlas
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unreal giving you a sign

ancient ingot
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@slim atlas hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

bleak remnant
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LOL

fathom wadi
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DOTA

deep copper
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FIFA

foggy path
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I had to look that up but

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indictments of nine high-ranking FIFA officials and five corporate executives by the U.S. Department of Justice on charges including racketeering, wire fraud, and money laundering.

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so yeah I guess they are kinda fucked atm?

cursive crypt
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fifa the game, or fifa the irl game?

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ah

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whatever ¯_(ツ)_/¯

foggy path
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Tbh that just sounds like they didn't want to pay FIFA anymore

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:D

cursive crypt
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But is a nice cash cow, should be replaced with something.

foggy path
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Unrelated to FIFA itself being shitty

cursive crypt
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GIGA

foggy path
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Dalle'd "Giga Chad Football, Super Nintendo box art"

cursive crypt
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Ooh, it is full of lootboxes even, nice start.

foggy path
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that rightmost one is actually pretty spot on

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it really looks like game box art from that era

deep glen
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it does

fathom wadi
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Dunno why they didn't call it Fifa Ultimate Team as thats the only part of the game anyone plays

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Or call it EA Ultimate Team at least

foggy path
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only mode I ever played in NHL games was quick match

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but then again I only played NHL in recent years at the office with coworkers just playing against each other

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well, "recent years"... think it's been over 8 years lol

edgy ice
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@fluid bloom get the horn of the abyss mod as well

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Or at least, get it if you intend on playing online or having a "balanced" experience, I been playing stock HOMM for years

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Lol

edgy ice
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:o no longer a toxic tank?

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Or well

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A not-toxic tank?

edgy ice
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Oh well that makes sense

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I assume that if you are a tank, you judge people

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I mean, your healers aren't doing their job and you need to babysit glue eating DPS, I get it.

soft night
cursive crypt
soft night
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ryobg have you seen someone make owl plane to a treehouse

cursive crypt
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No? Maybe if you sacrifice a mouse 🤔

primal summit
edgy ice
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Y'know, I was just talking about it this morning. Why aren't there any games or movies set in a green future?

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Like we have cyberpunk, dystopias, utopias, but no futures with all green technologies

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Algae panels, windmills, solar panels, trees

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Greenery

soft night
deep copper
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:(
then, MOBA*

gusty star
edgy ice
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Bleh. It would be a fun world to explore

gusty star
edgy ice
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Well that's a natural post apocalypse ig

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As natural as mushroom zombies go.

gusty star
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closest thing I could think of

edgy ice
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I think it would make a fun setting

deep copper
edgy ice
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True true

soft night
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for FC barca that is fitting gif

gusty star
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realistically tho we haven't been studying the climate long enough to know completely what the long term effects are. The immediate effects are not good tho (ocean acidification, GHG, etc)

soft night
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well EA next fifa games is FC

cursive crypt
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FC?

gusty star
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ocean acidification could wipe out earth or cripple us by taking out phytoplankton and killing the oceans / pulling the bottom out on the food chain.

edgy ice
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Algae is the single biggest contributor to oxygen

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There's research done into algae panels which is the coolest stuff to me

gusty star
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ye they are working on eco-engineering solutions using algael super blooms and what have you

edgy ice
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Essentially big pollution nets

gusty star
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its wild af

deep copper
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i can't wait to have that implemented irl

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would be cool to work with organic stuff

edgy ice
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1000%

deep copper
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it also gives opportunity for interesting zombie games

edgy ice
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I feel like a game or movie with a green future that's also REALLY GOOD would help in terms of setting society to look forward to something

soft night
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FC aka Football club

edgy ice
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We did that with a lot of sci-fi to get people hyped in the future

gusty star
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ye sci fi is good at the utopia / dystopia thing

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hopes and fears kinda thing

cursive crypt
soft night
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EA lost the licence to use Fifa branding for they games

gusty star
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FIFA is corrupt af tho, if EA won't work with them it says something given how shitty EA is xD

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the justice dept: fuck around and find out!

foggy path
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I don't think they give a shit about the corruption lol

gusty star
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so fair lmao

soft night
edgy ice
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In a way, I'm glad EA exists. It's refreshing to have someone evil, a genuine villain, no beating around the bush or arguments on if the company is good or not(like Capcom)

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Just someone who is straight up the bad guy

gusty star
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the crazy thing about that justice department page on FIFA is that the first paragraph reads:
A 47-count indictment was unsealed early this morning in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, charging 14 defendants with racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering conspiracies, among other offenses, in connection with the defendants’ participation in a 24-year scheme to enrich themselves through the corruption of international soccer. The guilty pleas of four individual defendants and two corporate defendants were also unsealed today. (Emphasis mine)

foggy path
zinc matrix
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FIFA has no common sense; they go building stadiums on developing countries to their tournament thing each 4 years

edgy ice
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The problem lies with the service, not the company when it comes to epic.

zinc matrix
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why Brazil needs multi-million stadiums when people do not even know how to write properly Portuguese?

foggy path
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Or the lack of a shopping cart?

gusty star
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egl = epic games launcher?

zinc matrix
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because some clubs with their upgraded stadium can not pay maintenance

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😄

edgy ice
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Well again, that's the service that's bad. Exclusives, lack of features and competing with big systems that are established is a failure of service. You can counter that argument with their pro-developer policies(1m before royalties? Free assets for commercial use?), Encouraging people to make games and make money

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I'm not saying epic is good

gusty star
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“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable.” - Gabe Newell, Leader of Valve

edgy ice
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P much.

gusty star
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ye

edgy ice
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I don't like epic games store because I don't like fighting established platforms we all use with exclusives and dividing the community

foggy path
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lol

edgy ice
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Origin and ubi is a pox on the market but at least they have their games on steam lol

gusty star
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I wonder if we can start a petition and pitch it as "Unreal Developers lobby Epic for better QoL in the EGL"

edgy ice
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A lesser evil.

foggy path
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You can petition for anything it's the internet who's gonna stop you lol

edgy ice
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Really, GOG did it best

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It looked at the market and said, ok fuck DRM and let's bring back old games

gusty star
foggy path
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Not unless you can conclusively show them it'll make them more money than it costs to do

gusty star
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hmm

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theres probably not data on early steam features and the impact it had on sales

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hmm

edgy ice
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I can tell you it had no impact on sales but it was lacking

foggy path
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Early steam was pretty bad lol

edgy ice
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I remember when steam was camo green.

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e.e

gusty star
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bruh

foggy path
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The entire friends system was offline for at least a year because it was so bad and they had to redo it from scratch

edgy ice
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^

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No market, no inventory, no trading, hardware was pretty intense for early PCs

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Weird money security things

foggy path
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At least they had minesweeper or some other minigames in the friends system

gusty star
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lmao

edgy ice
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It didn't impact sales because it was the first of it's kind

foggy path
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for the lucky moments when it worked before it went offline

gusty star
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so they were basically early adopters

edgy ice
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They're early everything

gusty star
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or had no competition

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ie first to market

edgy ice
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Volvo overall pretty much defined gaming for the next 20 years

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And are still defining things now

gusty star
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Ye

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I mean if they put their heart and soul into it, they knock it out of the park. See: Portal series

edgy ice
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I have a steam deck and I gotta say, this is the future

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This is what consoles will be

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Essentially a PC in a can with the strength of a higher mid grade rig

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All parts replaceable

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CAD files for the shell

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Full unlimited access to any part of the console

foggy path
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Doubt it

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Average user doesn't want to fiddle with it

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Remains to be seen if it even remains a viable niche for more "hardcore" users or whether the result is the same as most of valve's hardware projects

edgy ice
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Eh, I suppose. I still think this will be the gold standard

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It's an amazing bit of tech.

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Oh and they single handedly solo'd Linux

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Proton is insane

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Linux users eating good

zinc matrix
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Steam Deck is being profitable for Steam?

foggy path
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Single handedly?

edgy ice
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Well proton is a fork of wine so single handedly is being generous

foggy path
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lol yeah

edgy ice
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But it did push gaming in Linux ahead by years

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My point stands >:V

zinc matrix
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Linux is a game by itself

edgy ice
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As for profitability, thats....a weird answer

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The base deck is being sold at net neutral tbh

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Like the gains are so small it's not worth talking about

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But the 256 and etched glass models are most certainly profits

zinc matrix
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feels like they are backing they production with their abusive taxes on game developers

edgy ice
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Oh sure, I have no doubts about that

zinc matrix
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but i never read much about it, nor read numbers

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but certainly is cool what they are doing to Linux in some extend

edgy ice
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I mean, valve has always taken a pretty big cut of games profits.

zinc matrix
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i wonder why the community does not ask them to open-source some tech

edgy ice
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Don't get me wrong I'm not simping for valve, that company has done garbage shit

zinc matrix
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it is almost 1/4

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it is like abusive cassette publication back in the days

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but all digital

edgy ice
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30% Is pretty brutal.

zinc matrix
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how much does it cost to host 10 gigabyte on some online service?

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less than 200$ per year?

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maybe even less

edgy ice
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Uhhh that's not the best example to make

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Scaling is key

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200 a year is cheap for a small system needing very little server stuff

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But as you get bigger the cost inflates exponentially

zinc matrix
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yeah but not all games are online there

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nor uses their anti-cheat / services

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maybe they are already have some custom contracts

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or open to do it, if you ask

edgy ice
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I mean, a good majority of big online games don't use VAC

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They mainly use batteye or ez

zinc matrix
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it is really impressive

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Epic wants 5%

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Unity, 200$ per year

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or something

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Steam = 30%

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hahaha

gusty star
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finally a shirt that represents me, as a person

edgy ice
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I guess it depends at that point what you want to trade off

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30% is a big cut but it's also on the biggest platform in all of gaming, meaning more eyes on your game

timber viper
edgy ice
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Oh 100%

timber viper
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Also worst platform ever for an indie

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Shipping to console profits at least 50% more

zinc matrix
edgy ice
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Well that's the tradeoff part

zinc matrix
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having you game at Steam for small devs. is just a matter of convenience for the end user

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it is cool to have a game on Steam

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it has achievements, all centered in one HUB

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etc.

edgy ice
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As a developer, where and how you monetize your game is entirely on you

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I don't like exclusivity on epic game store because it's a step back in gaming BUT

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That cut is so generous

zinc matrix
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even Apple if you are doing a freeware software, does not take any cut from donations if you have one

gusty star
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does steam take a cut if its F2P?

zinc matrix
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i am yet to calculate how much i will pay for hosting my -500 megabyte game on some website

edgy ice
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I...don't know actually

timber viper
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TIL Fortnite pays 1$ per game

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for server costs

gusty star
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cuz epic has some weird rules around royalties for physical secondary products (ie things like kickstarter rewards, etc)

edgy ice
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I assume f2p games on steam pay a surcharge for micro.

gusty star
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iirc

edgy ice
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That's my assumption

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I could be talking out my ass

gusty star
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i'd assume that too ngl

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seems like itd make the most sense, valve still has to process the transaction / use their provider

zinc matrix
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or they allow external payment methods

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which i highly doubt it

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coming from a company that wants 1/4 of you income

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just for publishing less than 2 gigabytes online

gusty star
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eh

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atleast epic games royalties don't kick in till after a mil

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50k on a mil? pfft

zinc matrix
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even if it was higher

edgy ice
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Honestly, 1m is insanely generous

zinc matrix
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how long a indie would take to develop a game-engine?

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i remember entering on Vulkan docs once

edgy ice
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1m is implying your game is going to be in the like top 5% of games

zinc matrix
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i was scary

gusty star
zinc matrix
gusty star
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ye

zinc matrix
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indies have Godot

gusty star
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look at Valheim

zinc matrix
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Ogre3d

gusty star
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5 million copies in 5 weeks iirc?

edgy ice
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Oh sure, but 1m is pretty insane to make and even more insane if you money game it

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Cheaper games mean more units sold with no royalties lol

gusty star
#

5 mil x 20 dollars (rounded to nearest 10s, ignoring tax) = 100 million revenue

zinc matrix
#

calculates how much to charge for a game and earn less than 1 million, selling it for 7 billion people

edgy ice
#

It's pretty insane, most indie devs will be lucky to see 500k annual revenue

gusty star
#

It'd be stoked to make 10k ngl

#

but in a month 😉

edgy ice
#

I'd be stoked to afford a bus trip home

#

Currently walking home from deep queens back to my house.

zinc matrix
gusty star
#

I'm on disability for mental health, so the govt. gives me money. The only way this game dev thing is gonna work is if I can make more than what the prov. govt. pay me to simply live (which is a rather low bar ngl xD)

edgy ice
#

If you were walking an hour and change in queens you would also be happy to take a bus

#

Lol

#

Queens is a maze of hills

zinc matrix
#

you walk for 1 hour?

#

why you do not get a bicycle?

#

it is 6x times more efficient than walking

edgy ice
#

You got bike money?

foggy path
#

P sure you can get ones that function for like 100 bucks or maybe even less :P

zinc matrix
#

i rode more than 10,000 miles on a 50$ 1985 bicycle

#

you just need to learn how to fix some stuff

#

bicycles are used extensively in poor countries for a reason

edgy ice
#

Oh I know how to fix bikes, I'm mostly joking lol

zinc matrix
#

they are cheap

edgy ice
#

I just didnt bring my bike, is all

gusty star
#

eh its pricier but electric scooters are more collapsible / you could maybe carry one with you

#

looks kinda dumb tho

edgy ice
#

I took the bus there

foggy path
#

electric scooters are a great way to get into accidents too alex

zinc matrix
edgy ice
#

Yessir

gusty star
#

but I live in a city of ~300k and the public transit sucks here so lol YMMV

#

you can drive anywhere in city limits in 15 mins

zinc matrix
gusty star
#

the bus? hour and a half plus a change over

edgy ice
#

Eh even if I could I'm almost home

foggy path
#

when I was in the US I just took ubers ¯_(ツ)_/¯

zinc matrix
#

wait are you HoodieGuy?

edgy ice
#

In terms of distance, the vet isn't that far from my house, it's just the maze of roads I need to take to GET home

#

Also I dunno who that is

zinc matrix
#

every anime profile i wonder about them

edgy ice
#

I'm PolakGuy lol

zinc matrix
#

🙂 .

edgy ice
#

The PFP is just a fun screen grab I took

gusty star
edgy ice
#

The kind of tired sleep won't fix.

gusty star
#

Similarly in Canada I mean

zinc matrix
#

a better quality version for you

edgy ice
#

You run that through DAIN or something lol?

zinc matrix
#

what is dain

fathom wadi
#

looks like it suffers from aliasing or anisotropy

zinc matrix
#

i only use Win + Shift + S

edgy ice
#

It's a super close up screengrab lol

broken sigil
edgy ice
#

Just something I did accidentally and liked it

broken sigil
fathom wadi
#

who leaves this server? I mean... I thought we were all locked in here like some kind of developer hell prison

zinc matrix
gusty star
#

I usually draw my portraits hehe. v cartoony tho

zinc matrix
#

your anime profile eye

edgy ice
#

I've been confused with many people here so far and it's getting kinda comical

fathom wadi
#

confusion is the first state of clarification

zinc matrix
#

i wonder how this chat is not full of people

#

there is always 10,000 people online

#

and the same figures everytime i get here

edgy ice
#

I joined unreal slackers because unity bought malware and Godot has the documentation of a blind writer

fathom wadi
#

I joined unreal slackers because they stopped using slack 😄

gusty star
#

I also jumped ship from Unity

edgy ice
#

Also it's because it's a help discord, most are popping in here instead of going on stackoverflow, asking a question and vanishing

zinc matrix
#

i am starting with Unity

#

today i learned how to output a console of Csound on it

#

there is so much tutorials -/

gusty star
#

I last wrote an A* algo in Unity @_@

#

took a week of bugfixing

#

path isn't optimal either

#

needs to recalculate some shiet

zinc matrix
foggy path
#

imagine if they had a builtin navigation solution like UE does

#

lol

gusty star
#

they do have navmeshes

zinc matrix
gusty star
#

I don't think it works with 2d tho

edgy ice
#

Screw it, gonna write all my games In ASM

fathom wadi
#

it works with 2d if you use 3d and ignore an axis

edgy ice
#

Become a basement sage

gusty star
#

I see

#

I kinda just made my own grid based movement, using a procedurally generated terrain as my grid

zinc matrix
#

Unity Navmesh Github

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Q: Can I do moving NavMesh platforms?
A: No - new API is required for consistently moving platforms carrying agents.

Q: Is OffMeshLink now obsolete?
A: No - you can still use OffMeshLink - however you'll find that NavMeshLink is more flexible and have less overhead.

Q: What happened to HeightMesh and Auto Generated OffMeshLinks?
A: They're not supported in the new NavMesh building feature. HeightMesh will be added at some point. Auto OffMeshLink generation will possibly be replaced with a solution that allows better control of placement.

gusty star
#

ye see theres no height mesh

#

doesn't work for my purposes

zinc matrix
#

the maximum slope angle is 60 degrees 😐

fathom wadi
#

Unity just became the US Government's official 3d engine. I guess they never heard of Unreal Engine

#

or Epic just flat out refused 😄

edgy ice
#

Kinda weird they are picking a company for it

gusty star
#

c# is pretty ez to write in tho

edgy ice
#

Other countries with game grant programs aren't so strict

fathom wadi
#

they outsource all the time. its nothing new

gusty star
#

its just that Unity puts you in a sandbox so you have to do janky shit to make somethings work

#

wanna serialize a Monobehaviour in XML?

#

can't do that directly

#

gotta make a memento class, copy data to your clone, and serialize THAT

#

PITA

fathom wadi
#

there is plenty of jank in Unreal Engine thanks to single player games and blueprints. 😄

gusty star
#

yeah thats fair

#

I guess I'll be angry soon enough

#

(I'm still on summer break, UE dev starts september)

zinc matrix
#

do you remember

fathom wadi
#

if you do multiplayer you will be less angry as it's kind of a fixed development path

zinc matrix
#

it is true that UE is aimed at FPS 3rd person?

gusty star
#

I was buildign a single player city builder, sort of inspired by rimworld

zinc matrix
#

or it is just a thing of the past?

fathom wadi
#

it used to be luqtas

gusty star
#

but now I want to do the complete opposite and make a multiplayer 3rd person shooter

#

but I doubt I'll be able to run servers from my parents house lmao

zinc matrix
fathom wadi
#

I'd say unreal engine 3 was the last version where that was applicable. Too much diversity now

gusty star
#

or convince them that its worth the energy, even if i pay for it xD

edgy ice
#

Unreal was at one point a fps boomer shooter, believe it or not :P

zinc matrix
#

the only problem i had, from a noob perspective, was that Level Stream works when the camera enters the zone, not the character

#

and there was no easy way to change that from the UI

#

maybe c++

#

but then it is another level

fathom wadi
#

most games back in UE3 never had real source and couldn't do much with C++ except import a DLL so it was kind of stuck in its time

fathom wadi
zinc matrix
#

that thing is so cool

gusty star
#

I know its new and I'm new

#

but I think I'm gonna start learning UE with UE5

fathom wadi
#

I would. Its a whole new ball game

edgy ice
#

Finally almost home, just gonna stop by a bodega for a nice large bottle of water

gusty star
edgy ice
#

Wasn't a bad walk, spent the entire time blasting masayoshi takanaka

zinc matrix
fathom wadi
#

for sure

edgy ice
#

Idc if it's healthier or not

#

I crave water

#

Cold water

zinc matrix
#

@edgy ice does your city has heavy traffic?

edgy ice
#

I live in NYC in queens

#

So yea

zinc matrix
#

do you use a mask to walk on streets?

edgy ice
#

I carry one but no

zinc matrix
#

pollution from vehicles are really bad on the long term

#

i wished i learned that when doing bicycle deliveries

gusty star
#

ye

#

even wilder when you realize the lungs are basically flesh-sponge (its NSFL but look up a posterior cross section)

fathom wadi
#

there is a lot of UE4 that is still applicable but you will learn that too but with new stuff. The difference comes in how you structure your game development. There is too many nice new techs available to ignore like Lumen, Nanite, World Partition, Metasounds etc. Combined with new methods shown in the Lyra project for things like CommonUI, EOS, the Entity system and so on, its foolish to ignore it if you do this as a career. If you are just a casual game dev, you could still use UE4 and not care as long as your product works

zinc matrix
edgy ice
#

I mean I'ma be honest brotha, the only way to solve that issue is to leave NY, the smog is gonna consume a mask really quickly

gusty star
edgy ice
#

Thankfully I am leaving NY soon.

zinc matrix
#

idk how to continue from here on. i thought about the arms rising straight up. and i have no idea how to start with arms.. in such a position.... or how to make the pelvis
https://i.imgur.com/epEArVF.png

edgy ice
#

At this point I just gotta decide between upstate PA and TX

zinc matrix
#

we have a type of scan to detect malfunctioning cells, and we remove them everyday

edgy ice
#

I got people there

zinc matrix
#

principally when you are fasting

foggy path
edgy ice
#

I also got people in Cali but I live in Ny. Like. Come on.

zinc matrix
#

imagine, detecting malfunctioning cells by their electrical impulses?

zinc matrix
#

created by natural selection on the jungle?

zinc matrix
#

imagine if Nature decides to make computers

zinc matrix
gusty star
#

(from Andrew Loomis' Figure Drawing for All Its Worth)

#

its the same idea tho

#

cuz you're supposed to think of the drawing as 3d when you make it

#

even tho its on a 2d surface

zinc matrix
#

the lymphatic system

#

amazing

zinc matrix
#

i have issues with the real thing.

#

not just basic shapes

gusty star
#

just try building it up from basic shapes

#

if possible

#

(assuming you can work in a shape/form additive way)

zinc matrix
#

what after the basic shapes?

#

i think 3d, after learning the software

#

is easier than 2d

gusty star
#

the underlying muscles are what change the surface anatomy

#

bones kinda act as "landmarks"

zinc matrix
#

i want arms raising to sky fully

#

basic shapes wont help me with that

gusty star
#

okay what about straight up reference then lol?

zinc matrix
#

that is not arms straight up?

gusty star
#

its fairly close, the pecs will be basically the same, its mostly the arms themselves. You can also take a photo of yourself in the desired pose to get a basic idea of it haha

zinc matrix
#

a photo of myself wont help there 😦

gusty star
#

i know what you mean lmao

#

I don't have much mass tho I'm gaunt so you can atleast see some delineation

zinc matrix
#

i am skinny fat -.-

gusty star
#

so fair!

zinc matrix
#

unfair!!!

soft night
zinc matrix
#

if u find that hot. youre a weeb.

#

that is serious. not a joke

#

next time dont joke with me.

zinc matrix
#

dont joke with me.

deep copper
#

hey i know this guy

zinc matrix
#

noobs

edgy ice
#

Man. Chop cheese is good.

#

I picked up a chop cheese at the bodega and I am happy

deep copper
#

yes!
pick me up and i will be happy too! 🫂

#

i am sure the cheese liked it

zinc matrix
#

@ionic flamebut how do the pecs look?

#

does it look like arms are straight up?

timber viper
#

You're welcome

edgy ice
#

i dunno yet, im still weighing my options

primal summit
#

um... I already voted for you...

#

does that not count?

deep copper
#

we are just tiny pixels on a screen to them

timber viper
fleet tangle
#

Aww

deep glen
timber viper
#

@sand oxide you are missing the cats by being too helpful

broken sigil
#

So in horizon zero dawn on same sensitivity the camera will rotate faster with lower fps
Someone forgot to multiply their delta time somewhere 😅

regal pecan
#

does it rotate slower with faster fps? or is it capped

timber viper
#

thats why I just dont buy games ported to PC from console

edgy ice
#

i dunno man...bloodborne PC would be the greatest thing

#

👀

timber viper
#

🏳️

#

true

ivory lodge
#

I wonder how much the video game right to Johnny the Homicidal Maniac would cost?

timber viper
#

vblanco has some confusing messages about BP tick performance 🤔 he both says 400 ticks equal to 1ms in PS4 and also says 100 ticks equal to 1ms in PS4
#cpp message
#lounge message

#

I'm wondering which one is actually true

#

he stated 100 tick = 1ms multiple times and last one is in 2020 so probably its more accurate 🤔

#

But hell, that means it takes 0.01ms to execute a single node in BP.. I knew it was slow.. but was it that slow? sad

#

I need to find a friend that has a terrible PC and test it Thonk

deep copper
#

just take out a few parts of your pc, should work!

zinc matrix
#

while x is true;
chrome;
end

#

or you can open X stances of Minecraft

deep copper
#

so basically keep your pc busy 😏

zinc matrix
#

or click in free downloads stuff and let people user your GPU to mine

#

stop hugging me

deep copper
zinc matrix
deep copper
#

kind of soft too !?

zinc matrix
#
  1. not protected against attack (especially by nuclear weapons)
#

definitely i am soft

#

@deep copper where you find these profile pics

#

they are so CUTE

deep copper
#

and your pfp became white again !

zinc matrix
#

do you have a lazy eye?

#

@deep copper

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

thanks, keep this way

#

😄 .

#

stop the love hotel

#

we would live on a boat

deep copper
#

🚣

#

#

they are all either single person or empty 😦

#

🛳️

#

i guess this works but it's not a boat really

zinc matrix
#

that is too hetero

#

let me find another one

deep copper
#

lol it's okay for representation xD

deep copper
#

woah

zinc matrix
#

imagine how unlucky be at this one

#

casually anchoring on some coast

deep copper
#

they are sealed with seals

zinc matrix
#

2 monters came by

#

karma for playing Monster Hunter on Nintendo Wii back in the days

#

guess what

#

i will install the nintendo wii and play some golf

deep copper
#

o

#

Goodluck!

zinc matrix
#

did not chatted when

deep copper
#

⛳ may your balls go in the hole !

zinc matrix
#

nah, i just explore the scenario without scoring anything

deep copper
#

no score?

supple apex
#

Discord noob question, how do you see the @ content on the desktop version of discord?

deep copper
#

so you just, slap it around?

zinc matrix
#

i play it seriously, repeating ever stage until i get it by heart

#

that is what happens when you do not play violent stuff

#

otherwise i would be dying on Dungeon Siege II

deep copper
zinc matrix
#

never played this one

deep copper
zinc matrix
supple apex
zinc matrix
#

there is too much scientific data lurking around

#

and they go back up to 50 years

deep copper
deep copper
zinc matrix
#

now it does not make much difference

#

i got so much joy by finishing a poetry book of Rumi

deep copper
#

finish me as well

#

jk

#

that's cool !

zinc matrix
#

anna stuck me at flirting online

deep copper
#

anna ?

zinc matrix
#

anna-banana

timber viper
zinc matrix
#

@deep copper there is literally dozens of minions with bananas and you choose the spinning-floating one

timber viper
#

it even has a "bottem text"

deep copper
#

ohh! thanks for helping me discover some bananas !

gusty star
#

chicken soup is so good, i could drink chicken broth like its ice tea 😎

deep copper
#

that's nice!

gusty star
#

jk about the second bit, thatd be a bit much lol -- the ice'd tea thing i mean xD

deep copper
#

it's okay! we won't judge

timber viper
zinc matrix
#

liberate the mind, brothers and sisters

deep copper
#

🧠

zinc matrix
#

i mean, 'chickens are no food'

#

luqtas 1:13

timber viper
#

i still couldnt find a goulash soup though

#

i hate u people for talking about good looking meals

#

they never exists in Turkey

gusty star
#

😦

#

wait, is turkish doner a thing in turkey, or is that more a german thing?

#

because what about d o n e r

timber viper
#

It's essentially a Turkish thing

gusty star
#

noice

#

When I went backpacking in western europe I tried as many doners in as many countries as possible.

#

tho I never tried the O.G.

timber viper
#

But there is something called "modern berlin doner"

deep copper
timber viper
#

Germans evolved it into something slightly different

#

some say its better for Europeans

#

in terms of taste

gusty star
#

interesting

timber viper
#

but I doubt a regular Turkish would enjoy it as regular doner

gusty star
#

ye

#

what about turkish coffee, like with the uh, theres a particular word that means like pass or like... hmm

#

when you brew it i mean

#

I saw a video earlier of a guy doing it with this sand based heater and a copper vessel that was smol but it would heat up and overflow

#

and there was a particular word for that overflow technique and each pass that you did of it = better coffee

timber viper
#

Older people are more knowledged about Turkish coffee, next generation is quite not interested of it 😂

gusty star
#

so fair lmao

#

(my step dad worked for Keurig for a long time and now Canterbury Coffee, so i'm a bit biased cuz of that influence)

timber viper
#

I'm a sucker for a good coffee though

#

Turkish coffee is just hassle to do

zinc matrix
#

do you like cold brew?

gusty star
#

i feel that, ah okay makes sense

#

I haven't tried cold brew yet 😮

zinc matrix
#

it is the most superb method

#

for tea

#

coffee

#

chicken soup

gusty star
#

hahahhaa

zinc matrix
#

at least helps remove the bitter taste toasted coffee has

gusty star
#

ye fair

zinc matrix
#

on green tea works nice too

gusty star
#

I always found it funny that the lighter roasts have more caffiene

#

but its because it gets burned off during the roast

zinc matrix
#

well, roasting actually increases the amount of caffeine

gusty star
#

does it? damn shows what I know xD

#

idk I'm pretty simple these days I'll just drink like an americano, which is basically an espresso with water added to it

#

sorta anyway

zinc matrix
#

at least when i was researching about cold brew

#

i discovered that roasting increases the amount of caffeine

#

buut

#

there is no significant difference between a light and strong roast

#

only the taste

#

but green beans vs. roasted

#

yeah, just google to read if i am not mistaken

#

but as far as the first search headline goes, roasting increases the amount

#

works like cannabis

#

you should burn or heat it to transform aTHC to THC

#

aS aTHC does not get us high

#

i personally hate strong roasted ones

#

specially on a expresso machine

#

and

#

i discovered that even if you can find on the internet that cold brew is healthier, because it kills less antioxidants (coffee, tea); if you take a scientific look at it, the amount of antioxidants killed by extracting the beverage with hot water is insignificant, considering the amount it has

#

we are talking on measures minor than micrograms

slim acorn
edgy ice
#

Wrong chat.

slim acorn
#

where should I put it?

edgy ice
#

Free video game idea: make a gunpla making game

#

We got PC building games, power washing games, where's the gunpla?

#

It's super fun to do but some people can't afford the sets or the tools or have the time/space

gusty star
#

like a kit bash simulator?

edgy ice
#

Doesn't need to be kit bashing, could be just full gunpla sets

gusty star
#

ah okay so model kit mechs and all that

edgy ice
#

I know a prototype is in itch

#

And I had fun with it

#

It was to make paimon

#

Which eh. Genshin.

gusty star
#

I just want a mech battle royale, sort of like armoured core

edgy ice
#

But it was a sick proof of concept.

gusty star
#

but with mech customization

#

and pilot customization (could be cosmetics only, depending on the game play)

edgy ice
#

So mech warrior with a less toxic community and permadeath

#

:U

gusty star
#

ye

edgy ice
#

And an actual good game.

gusty star
edgy ice
#

I respect mechwarriors legacy but they really appealed to the toxic dad demographic

#

Without a flight stick, a thousand hours of gameplay and a derogatory dictionary you really can't play that game

gusty star
#

lmao

#

yeah simplified, intuitive controls would be part of the UX/UI pipeline for sure

#

I think GTA5 and Battlefield 4 (for some examples) did a good job of implementing fairly complex movement

#

tho GTA5 flying planes is a bit tough lmao

#

esp that first mission where you race your friend as Trevor

edgy ice
#

Bf4 and bf1 did it well, I love 1943 but the game is a bit of a slog sometimes

#

I still think bf1 is the best bf

#

Maybe tied to 4

gusty star
#

BF1 was insanely good

#

the biplane lmao, love that shiet

#

tho flying helicopters in BF4 and pwning tanks by dodging them is unparalled

edgy ice
#

I know a lot of people dislike the old war stuff and that it's not modern and a lot of history nuts are mad that 99% of the weapons are only technically correct

#

And that it uses WWII tactics

gusty star
#

idc

#

its fun

#

reviews be damned!

edgy ice
#

But if I was looking for a bolt action rifle hole shooting sim

#

I'd play Verdun.

gusty star
#

Ye

edgy ice
#

Let me be the hero of my memes.

gusty star
#

and arguably the tech just isnt there to simulate a mass infantry charge ala WW1

#

ya know?

edgy ice
#

I mean even if it was

#

It's just not fun

#

Bf1 is an alt history glory game that balances the horrors of war(especially in the audio department) while giving players that heroics and glory vibe

#

It's supposed to be a war movie, not a documentary

gusty star
#

ye

edgy ice
#

We have better games for that.

gusty star
#

I want a third person shooter with realistic injuries and realistic physics

#

I'm gonna try building it in fall and winter

#

hopefully it doesn't become a 5+ year project lmfao

#

or as realistic as you could possibley take the medium

#

maybe tone down the visuals tho lol

#

but simulation and gameplay effect wise

edgy ice
#

Well conceptually it's pretty simple, making it without bugs....

gusty star
#

ye lmao

#

we'll see how it goes

#

I can code so

#

and draw

edgy ice
#

make the next hell let loose

#

I believe in you

gusty star
#

but I have to learn C++ and blender

#

tho i know c# and java

#

and can kinda read C++

edgy ice
#

Blender isn't too bad and knowing C# helps, the concepts are the same, you're just writing more of it

gusty star
#

tho I can work 10 hour days If I wanted in the fall so there will be plenty of time to bug fix and bash my head against the Wall of Learning

#

ah okay makes sense

edgy ice
#

Blender isn't too bad, it's just feature paralysis

#

And poor design lol

gusty star
#

My main gripe with it before was the UI

#

but that was like 2014 ish

#

so i hope its better haha

edgy ice
#

The UI is only marginally better tbh

#

You can't make it too good imo

#

There's too many tools

gusty star
#

ye and being able to switch between different modes of control and manipulation requires a fairly complex solution, its a lot of hotkeys xD

edgy ice
#

It's not just a 3D modelling soft, it's a modeling soft, painter, animator, editor, workspace, window cleaner, toothpaste, blah blah blah blah blah

gusty star
#

ye true eh

edgy ice
#

If you're up to it(read: literally a deranged lunatic), you could learn it.

#

Lol

#

When people who have used this program for 10 years are still learning new things this program can do :P

gusty star
#

so fair lol

#

well I mean I did pay money to go to art school when most peoples response is "but how do you make money!?!1?!"

#

so, deranged, maybe xD

edgy ice
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I think the issue with a good chunk of art school graduates is that art school firstly doesn't offer many opportunities to make connections in any work force(such as internships)

gusty star
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Well not unless you move to california and pay 50k a year in tuition

edgy ice
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And a good chunk of artists are assuming they can just drop something on art station and every company under the sun will hire them

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Though knowing art can be beneficial and lucrative when applied to the right niches.

gusty star
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ye, true enough

edgy ice
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For everyone else.........well

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Rule 34 exists.

gusty star
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the high-end* art market is kinda its own thing tho lmao

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oh you meant that