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well, i guess the engine will go boom
Nice.
I think I may have understood what makes live coding and hot reloading so broken
Forgive me if ya'll are aware of this
but I was reading the 5.0 release notes last night before bed, and I found the section on live coding
lemme just link it
you okay?
Livecoding works just fine tbh
They will tell all you need to know.
Hotreload is a garbage fire lol
is hot
Ah that's why it's called hot because it's a hot garbage fire 
it's a difficult to use and harder to master tool
Probably not
hmm
It doesn't say there that it's all because of pointers
its more broken than they are letting on / know then?
It's just suggesting that in that particular scenario certain things can cause crashing or issues
Livecoding is not broken
I mean hot reload
Hot reload is also not really "broken" per se, but it can cause unpredictable things to happen
I see
which is kinda why it's not recommended to be used especially as livecoding does mostly the same without the unpredictability
hot reload is fine if you understand how to handle it. ie. don't be renaming classes and their constructors with it enabled.
hot reload means there is a possibility of cold reload
that's just a regular editor restart
that's cool yeah
Im at that awful stage where I don't know what game to play in my downtime. Feels like a drought.
And I'm browsing monitors for the past few hours... the good ones are gone.
get a CRT monitor from 1999.
I remember the tears...
Double dragon. We were crying with bro, but still playing.
double dragon was a scam. You play two player all the way to the end, then you have to kill each other over the woman you rescue.
i might have to go play bubble bobble for the 100,000th time
i used to love my crt monitor. I had an IIyama Visionmaster pro450. Diamondtron flat screen. It was a sad day when I switched it for LCD
Does someone makes modern CRTs?
probably
Which reminded me, they burned the screen. lol, the old style OLEDs
You should have called it a cool restart lol
yeah
So did you have better luck with that option on or off?
how much time does it take to restart the editor btw
i think it was quick if it was just shut down
And a lot on your project size!
size matters!
I don't have the editor installed even ๐ฎ but my NVMe came in yesterday and I haven't installed it yet lmao
goodluck!!
tho I'm just gonna open and close the editor lol
Not 100% sure what the workflow is
but I'll figure it out
same, but do check the templates and content example thing
Oh yeah for sure
the content example was really cool, idk what all they added to it now (you gotta download it seperately and it's huge afaik)
ye ye
The release notes kinda explained whats new in 5.0 as well
so I got a run down of all the major stuff
that's nice!
Its worth the read ngl
i only recommend the content example thing because it had hallways of stuff arranged (litral hall)
and stuff arranged in different levels like blueprint in blueprint, material in material levels
i have heard many jokes about the docs people being underpaid and them not being very helpful, good to know atleast those notes are neat
Just timed it for me and it took just over 11 seconds, but everything should be quite 'warm' in cache
- smol project
I'm gonna start with code only and keep the project as light as possible
this reminds me of laying an egg, you gotta keep it warm ๐ค
add assets in when I get a 3060 or 40xx later this year
cuz my 6gb 1660 super isn't gonna get me far lol
sounds like a plan
develop the core game play code > make it go brrr > add in art to replace manny/placeholders > code more > repeat steps 2-4
!8ball you are just a substitute
@deep copper, :8ball: Very doubtful.
Manny thinks hes the star! pah!
manny is in denial ๐
working on gameplay first sounds decent for a plan though, i expected you to be an artist with that "draws" in name and art related queries, someone that would prepare artwork/assets first
guess you have thought this through to get familiar with the unfamiliar
My kanban board is proving to be very motivational ๐ช
I kept thinking of things to do then forgetting them by the time I got to actually game deving, dark times
productive people are not allowed here
can you leave
Laziness is supreme
This is me enjoying life, before I go back to working for $$$
that looks cool
checking off a list feels so good
- the rush of seeing that tickets completed column grow!
new profile picture huh 
@sand oxide wanna see a C++ crime?
tbh not too happy with it
still on the lookout
why did you even change
i wasn't getting much hugs anymore
and it was long due
everyone changed theirs it's peer pressure!
I'm sticking with my stealth pentagram thanks
well it does feel cool so i can see why
but it doesn't have sk0g written in it or something ๐ค
Nah I'm too cool for that ๐
what makes you think changing pp will help about this ๐ค
it will make people think i am someone else and they would fall for it!
nah jk idk
i feel like i should get something purple, that way ben would atleast prefer it
Sounds like neither, lol
But do try and tell.
yeah haha, wellllllll I have to learn Blender too >_< but the code comes first anyway. No point in making a super high quality walking simulator.
Unless thats what you're after....
like The Longing or some shit lmao
imagine not walking irl and walking in a walking simulator
Look up The Longing
.. so it's already a thing
it seems to be a bit more interesting with some plot i guess
Yeah eh, the plot is probably what makes the concept bearable lmao
yeah because otherwise it would be "some guy made assets first and couldn't figure the game"
What Remains of Edith Finch is probably the best game I've played, for feels/hour
huh that's a very odd summary
i really don't know what to expect from it, unusual ways to die?
What Remains of Edith Finch is a 2017 video game developed by Giant Sparrow and published by Annapurna Interactive. The game centers on the character of Edith, a member of the Finch family, afflicted by a perceived curse that causes all but one member of each generation to die in unusual ways.ย
That's actually pretty spot on TBH
The Longing is an indie point-and-click adventure idle video game, developed by Studio Seufz. Initially released for Microsoft Windows, macOS, and Linux on March 5, 2020, and later for Nintendo Switch on April 14, 2021, the game follows a creature called a Shade, who waits 400 days to awaken a sleeping king.
... what xD
so you like, walk and die in weird ways or something?
is it basically a death simulator?
..or a life simulator
You basically run around doing minigames to explore your family member's lives and sometimes deaths, and they are all kinda related to each other. The gameplay kinda is the storytelling, in a really cool way.
The fish cannery section in that game is my all time favourite moment in a video game TBH, was one of the few times something shook me so hard I just had to turn it off and regain my emotions for a bit!
I wouldn't say it's scary, I don't like horror games and the likes. It's just super bittersweet, I'm going to force my gf to play it soon, once she finishes Witcher 3
Hmm I'd think some of the scenes would be much lamer if you aren't the one in control. Knowing what's coming and not being able to stop it was one of the more intense parts in there
But like always, it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea
Yeah that's the one
well it is storytelling focused so understandable i suppose ๐ค
and relatability to the story matters i guess
TBH I had the same || behavioural problem || so it got to me more
i am just reading the spoilers because not like i will ever play it or even remember we talked about it lol, if i ever play
Normal families are not noteworthy of having games made about them ๐
And I vote against watching it, can't see it being nearly as interesting
Laura pls, wanna see my C++ crime
It's not thaaaat bad
i watch stuff at 2x minimum on yt so,.. xD
that really would be speedrunning
Definitely on the TUniquePtr side of things
do talk to me when/if banned ๐ข
i want it purple tbh and i can't even see the face it's so small it's like a plant with painted leaves rn ๐ญ
I'm going to add a log and return/continue variants too, if there's some conditions that I want to be notified about
Anything to hide the Rider squiggles
Well the variables are const, since I don't plan on modifying it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
i see what you meant by outside lounge being.. ๐ค
Don't mention their name w/o reason.
dragonHell is everything
Regular mortals shouldn't mention their name without a good reason ๐
Don't take the Lord's name in vain
found the quote
Their light transcends even through the picture, humble yourself.
May your compilation succeed...
I'm going for a nap.
And debugging be painful ๐
Good night, may the power of DragonHell be with you
Don't question dragonhell ๐ฑ
Lol
it's some person #cpp considers god, dw
they are kinda like god tbh, i have never seen them but everyone seems to believe in their powers
Sounds exactly like a god then ๐
that's some skills to find that
step 1 - search
step 2 - sort by old
step 3 - copy link
ah yes , sort by old, desktop only features i would never see ๐ญ
Do you guys not have PCs.jpg
i think i have the jpg
Discord: "Add useful features to the more efficient device? Why would I do that? Why would I?"
...There's a version of discord for raspberry pi.
Or no, I'm wrong. Pi runs the linux version. There's a linux version?
It's a web app, desktop OS support is ez
Pi would be ARM though, which can be tricky for native builds
I always thought Pi was some small chip with tiny specs
but i guess it's strong enough then
256k should be enough for anyone.
did you just say 4k / month ?
aight probably a reference no one present here would get xD
I meant two hundred and fifty 6k TVs should be enough for anyone.
The KFC dating sim developers got hired to make a dead by daylight dating sim
fucking badass, im fine with this being the new thing. they found them selves a good niche, I'll be waiting for 5 nights at freddys sim next
i assume there's enough audience
Drag On Hell is a inverse vector force that is applied to Hell as it moves through the filament.
it's reality
Think I need to stick to just one theme for this character creator otherwise it's gonna be a looooooootttt of textures
as long as you have fun!
Of course
i wonder what i should do to make you also hit that ๐ซ react ๐ค
what's up with the pfp @deep copper , it's not even ai generated
no grapes ๐ฆ
well, the green hair fits the trolling (well zach, guess you are sitting in one boat with affectionateUser now, have a good ride i guess :P)
is there an existing solution for this problem?
i want to make t-/cross sections etc. with my spline roads
guess there is now :>
How you done it?
mix of some custom spawner and editor utility widget to place the spline points/tangents in the correct locations
usually my road is 1 spawner, these are 3
but as the road renders on RVT target with world position for the texture, you don't see any seams ๐
Is the middle triangle part a separate mesh?
thats not a mesh, that are the spline points
which go along the middle of the road of each spawner
Neato!
that's to celebrate me not being an ai!
grapes can be green ๐ค
there's no trolling
oh no, the interweeb took another one
What kind of game dev stuff you working on?
nothing, i don't game dev, you?
Oh! OK. I was just curious, I didn't see you in any other channels.
I'm learning.
that's cool :D
@deep copper Do you use Unreal?
Without spamming I hope.
actually without spamming yeah, but it took like 5-10 sparse tries
I wasn't trying to get anyone in trouble.
there there ๐ trouble is often unpredictable
No, I was only curious as to why a user would be here if they hadnt.
You should give it another shot but only if you have an idea or a goal I guess.
Otherwise it's probably not a huge deal, right?
It seems typical to me that there is an not insignificant portion of trouble makers that join Servers tend not to be involved in its purpose. If that makes sense.
it was not for me :P game dev in general is quite difficult, and it takes some real dedication
Not to accuse you of being a trouble maker.
Only that it helps to understand why someone would join if they didnt participate in Unreal.
ah, that does makes sense, this place has tons of channels and tons of people, so it would be fun to watch them react as you try to do something weird to this , structure๐ค
it's hard to find similar servers that aren't filled with mostly children
We try to maintain an air of professionalism here.
As soon as something turns into a rabble, it usually scares away the serious people.
Usually the serious people are the ones with most of the answers.
Not a good scenario when your running a server like this.
i have seen a fare share of people complaint in #969360633386655744 about this server not being "pro enough" ๐ค , high standards yeah
anyone who even remotely does programming or anything is here at times xD
exactly why i don't visit other serious channels xD
I honestly don't like visiting those channels either 
Everyone's asking questions in the wrong place. People just barge into active voice chat like they own the place.
#cpp can get out of hand for sure, but their saving grace is they 99% of time will always stop the nonsense to answer questions.
and the questions are never ending ๐
so does lounge
I only visit the other channels when i need help with something that I cant talk thru in lounge
It has more than enough questions for Manny.
most of my issues I just need to talk thru, get my brain to un-brainfart itself
It would be better if we could filter people to the more specific channels. But there is only so much we can do to facilitate that.
i can see #lounge redirecting you
actually, if anything, lounge raises a lot of questions
I don't mean to complain. We have the same issue on our server.
Yeah its unfortunate, we cant make people use the correct channel before they use the wrong one.
I dont get redirected when I'm asking question, but they're usually more of a what to do, rather than a how, and are often slightly out of place in specific channels
looking at #blueprint ?
"what to do" questions are harder to answer.
#design-chat was a "what to do" channel, that people couldnt understand.
you do have enough "lounge points" to not get redirected yeah ๐ค
not all people are great at googling the correct question to get the correct answer, but actual people are better at parsing the question to get the needed answer
Understanding the question is half the battle.
It would be ideal if everyone here knew exactly the question to ask, before coming on to ask it.
explains why many questions go unanswered, it's like opening a can of worms
half the time I'm not sure how to ask my question when I have one
I feel thats part of the reason why we get so many requests for "can we have a noob channel".
Because new people dont know how to ask the right questions.
All our channels are "noob" channels.
They are also "expert" channels as well.
That would be really painful I think.
It'd have to be a Directory channel or something where people just ask their question and they get told where to go.
(This is pretty much already #ue5-general and #ue4-general )
We would never have a dedicated "noob" channel.
that actually does sound decent, a channel for ue topics you don't know about too well, but #ue4-general etc were that i think
Its one of those "you think you want it, but you dont" kind of things.
A noob channel(s) would just be chaos and ultimately end up being dead because no one would answer the questions.
i don't see the problem actually
most people get redirected pretty well by other users, if they post in the wrong channel
and i can relate to the newbies as the amount of channels and topics with unreal can be overwhelming
Most of the requests we get, I feel come from a place of anger at not being satisfied with a response to attempting to get help.
many new users haven't even read all the channel's title
Which, in my experience is 80% that users fault.
Which is a problem.
But again, its one of those issues theres only so much we can do about.
We try to keep our channel list tight for this reason.
sometimes when you're getting frustrated with something, and you're asking your question, and not satisfied with peoples answers, its mostly because you're looking at the issue wrong. Need to step back, clear your mind, and sometimes the answer will be right in front of you
you also got a #more-resources but #lounge still redirects people there lol
And our growing user base.
The more users, the more discussion, the more granular channels we need.
Being involved in the MJ server made it quite clear to me that no matter how much you try to make something clear some people won't read even the simplest of instructions
We have #lounge at the bottom because we want people to start at the top of the list, which they naturally do.
i mean, we had to get #generative-ai because #lounge content was getting disturbed lol
also keep in mind that schools have holidays around this time of the year
that's the basics of passing info as well, people give you less than 3 seconds at times
#generative-ai is currently consistently in top most active channels ๐
good decision i would say, offtopic channel
Surprisingly to me, most of the time, we arent overwhelmed with young people.
At least, they dont appear to be young in the way they engage.
ppl like me are offsetting the average tho. am old. feel old
BlueMan and Luos got scoulded in the Staff channel for adding it.
Just so you guys know ๐
yay
many people are older than children, who are trying their hands at game dev
blueman and luos got our back
little kids get called slackers by their teachers all the time, you think they wanna join a server for unreal slackers?
Never thought of it like that ๐
aww, well it was a good way to keep #lounge safe
if you don't agree, affectionate is gonna to hug you
I dont think physical age is an issue, mental age and maturity though.
Its clear when someone isnt balanced right.
In the way they discuss things here.
also Discord ToS age :^)
as if i need a reason to lol
Yeah it is a thing.
But you have to say, #generative-ai was kinda a good idea ๐
There is a group of people that seems to like it
i never expected so many to be there actually
even s-ed was there
Sure, but its also got nothing to do with UE
Plus there is no doubt 1923192801 servers dedicated to MJ
Yeah but we all have to eat ๐
you act like some social interaction is bad for the community
many people wanted to use ai art for their games, so it's a good introduction place
lol
I will admit, it certainly has potential for mad cool concept art.
absolutely agree that it's a good tool for gamedev, either for textures or concepts
i saw many here who were hesitant because they aren't sure if it's ready or not yet
blue man's prompt are an example of the peak ai art imo
most ai prompts give.. bad results..
He has probably been fired from his job for focusing on MJ to much.
And the AI too
Intervention maybe required??
don't worry! i will intervene!
Actually we started using MJ now for the project because I was so annoying with it ๐
lol
mission accomplished?!
They have an open licence from what I read right?
Yeah you basically own all the right to the images
Would be almost impossible to not have that I would think.
i read their announcement about changing the licence such that people own the artwork, previously mj owned it but we got some rights passed down, now it's other way around
(i am not a professional licence reader so my interpretation could be wrong)
Not anymore, they removed that after the TOS update recently
You would think ๐
still less than that 3800.2 hours on some game guy !
I was there before 
sent cardio is all i know of
went*
i bet you lay in bed, thinking of MJ prompts in the evening
falling asleep, while you imagine the results
Are you spying on me?
A spy wouldn't know what you're thinking. Ben is psychic.
nope, but i know what addiction looks like ๐
replace mj with you and you got me
that's impressive ๐ค
Now you're making me wonder if the brain has exploitable speculative execution. Neurospectre!
actually there have been attempts to calculate encryption keys based on power usage
Your odds of being replied to by a Unity user are low but never zero.
I left Unity for UE when Unreal SDK was close to being replaced by UE4
Yes, the prime example^
Toxic tank we constantly have to deal with ||this is a joke|| ||or is it||
@deep copper, :8ball: Don't count on it.
@ionic flame, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
manny is scared of blue man because blue man is an evil ai controller
I have to clarify that it was actually a joke before someone takes me seriously lol
dont worry, I dont take you seriously.
Just out of curiosity there is an age limit on accepting Epics TOS right? that could be why most people are older with younger people perhaps gravitating to Fortnite creative mode
I would have thought it a safe assumption that regardless of what the TOS says about age restrictions, people would ignore it anyway lol.
We get far less people asking about Fortnite than I have expected.
yeah they can do, forums, social media inc discord etc have limits too usually just because of the issues with contracts
Honestly I could probably count on 2 hands the number of times its happened in the last 12 months.
theyre all on Tims Twitter thats why ๐
Better him than us ๐
I couldnt imagine what this place would be like if Tim was a semi regular here lol
need a custom channel with slow on so you could actually read it
#tims-channel
I don't know if he even has an account here, might be some random name to spy around lol
He doesnt, unless its annoymous
I like to play a game, guess who is Tim... I try to work out which of the lounge regulars is the real Sweeney
so far all my leads are dead ends, I had hope for couple but nope
easiest tell is when people mention having a potato PC ๐
Seems as though you joined around April Fools, so not surprising, it was most likely an April Fools joke by one of the Mods.
I vaguely remember one of them doing that
Probably Luos lol
That was actually Tim
For sure, but we are only human.
If it concerns you, you can bring it up to our Admin.
Gimp?
Krita is also really good but it's more for digital painting
I'm expecting Xero to plug photodemon any second now
I wonder if @trail wedge is also a rep for Xero.
The accounting software I use ๐
UE could probably be a photoshop replacement if one leverages its texture painting hard enough
who needs photoshop when you have #generative-ai
To hell with their APIs, EmploymentHero forevs ๐ช
C++ devs, Carbon thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omrY53kbVoA
CppNorth Twitter: https://twitter.com/cppnorth
CppNorth Website: https://cppnorth.ca/
Carbon Language: An experimental successor to C++
Project details: https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang
C++: What Comes Next? (Announcing the Carbon Language experiment) - Chandler Carruth -CppNorth 2022
C++ remains the dominant programming lan...
So far, I'm pretty on the fence here. It kinda feels like they are adding new weird stuff while not fixing C++'s weird stuff
i do like the explicit interface implementation namespacing-- i miss this in most languages
"You want extension methods in C++? Fine! Here is not extension methods!"
Still, being able to add interfaces to things is super useful
I don't know if I like making static the default just to satisfy this "deduction" primitive
just like making public the default increases readability, why isn't keeping static a special case also in line with that
and extern impl can't work when the interface is shared because of all the ODR NDR weirdness, because I suppose ostensibly youd want a zero cost abstraction and checking if the object implements that interface is not zero cost. This is caveats on caveats. I'm hardly convinced
Audience claps at having a package manager at all, sigh
Is made by few cpp guys who got impatient their vision for the language was challenged in the committee.
wait let and var have weirdly different semantics that are unexplained, wtf
ughhhhh
I'm cringing hard lol
I glanced over the language, but it looks more like a corporative driven replacement (albeit extension) of cpp. The Google idea of c#
And a bit of wishful thinking
OK, finished the main presentation, havent watched the Q+A
On other hand, newbies like everything which is not complex and maybe it has some interesting concepts.
I glanced over the language, but it looks more like a corporative driven replacement (albeit extension) of cpp. The Google idea of c#
When I think of C#, I think of the Java realm of garbage-collected languages using a JIT/AOT language VM design. Go is the Google choice here, though it relies heavily on an AOT design, it still has a garbage collector
Not to say that its not Google's way of getting around the baggage of C++
Yeah, but Go as you say is kinda closer to sharp and java. To replace cpp, you need compatibility. Herb Sutter even gave the idea what is good cpp replacement, they used it and you prolly saw that reference in that lecture.
The type suffix syntax and the "baggage removal" is appealing as someone who mainly wants a C++-like language that fits in and works well with a V8/JavascriptCore application framework. Carbon matches TS very nicely. But as an evolution of the C++ ecosystem, I don't think this is it fam
Yeah the compatibility story seems fine with Carbon. But that's not terribly insurmountable. Generating some C++ headers is not a crazy thing. I'm wondering: Is there some Rust magic that can generate C++ compatible headers without effort already?
You might hedge and say: Well it needs to be a zero cost interoperabilty, and maybe some suitable Rust thing doesnt grant that, but its maybe splitting hairs.
Then again, C++ ABI is an insufferable beast
Frankly, headers aint the best, but they push the modules as of now. When I said up, "wishful" it is also a bit naive to think that your fancy new features will apply and are battle tested across millions of ppl and trillions of business. Let alone age in 40 years. Not to say, new things should not rise.
Kinda same reason I see no reason for Rust. Package manager... e.g. the only one which somehow works in such scale is python and pip say.
Package management is not a solved thing at all. I deal a lot in the NPM ecosystem, and its laissez faire chaos. But NPM's vendoring-focused solution is better than what Python and Ruby have, which is system-wide by default, requiring non-native solutions to virtualize
If people think adding package management to C++ is just as simple as ISO making a decision on it, they are wrong
Even your dpkg/apt system on many Linux stuff get fairly easy out of control the moment you try something more weird.
Yeah, its a hard problem for sure
I really thought the Carbon talk would focus more on this "tool assisted language compatibility"
Because one thing Google has done that's really cool, is the Typescript-focused automated upgrades of Angular. This thing can rewrite your code for you during upgrade. It's not perfect, but it's impressive. I thought there would be something around automatically changing code to match language changes
Anyway, point is, there are "really" hard problems. Starting a new... might help. However, you have carefully to plan. It is not a coincidence that even stupid on first sight thing like the c++20 concepts, took like 20y+ to add (tho there was some neglection).
The C++ parsing is hard. Even that Chandler guy (llvm dude?) prolly knows you can't match their syntax, then there is really no point if you can just import headers as that Crabon thing does. Don't touch working code ๐
i dont think there was ever a non-desire to upgrade C++, I just think the same typical big players dragged their feet (ahem, microsoft, but also for some things, gnu)
One of biggest stoppers for ABI compatibility is the amount of gaps between the big player's platforms windows/linux, microsoft, google, etc.
yeah c++ parsing is stupidly complicated (vexxing parse yadda)
yeah, imagine a world where we have at least architecture ABI for all major C++ compilers
The world is big tho, the platforms where C++ runs are wild and wide.
Anyway, this is really new lang, as somehow Rust. Let see them in 10 years.
yeah is "me" the new "this" or is "me" just for deductive "this" assignments
iirc was just a name
btw, I heard few times they gonna add "self" in C++... so might be in 23'
meaning what
Is a nice way to know in what state is currently "this" as a function parameter.
Do you call this function from lvalue or rvalue e.g.
overloading
so it can't be this because it's a valid identifier in previous versions?
well self is too. why self instead of this?
Well, iirc was called "this" actually, but you thought we are more familiar with the word "self"
not sure where I said it but yeah, if it's this in the syntax, sounds great
It allows some nice optimisations.
struct X {
void foo(this X const& self, int i);
template <typename Self>
void bar(this Self&& self);
};
struct D : X { };
void ex(X& x, D const& d) {
x.foo(42); // 'self' is bound to 'x', 'i' is 42
x.bar(); // deduces Self as X&, calls X::bar<X&>
move(x).bar(); // deduces Self as X, calls X::bar<X>
d.foo(17); // 'self' is bound to 'd'
d.bar(); // deduces Self as D const&, calls X::bar<D const&>
}
But is?
Just a keyword in front of the type.
As a name of the parameter you can use self or me or peachy
Anyway, I gave it as an example things are moving. However, as many will say: Make simpler > New features
how often can we expect C++ devs to set the deducted this type to something optimal
(insert bug fixes in front)
Is an expert tool for whoever wants it.
Most of C++ is like that
i have half a mind to think every single decl will be [addr Whatever *]
A lot of weight is on the shoulders of teachers. Teach simple and correct things, modern things.
For the new stuff, I'm more hyped for the concurrency pipelining which I hope gets max to 26'
Is dope.
The mdspan is also pretty cool, can do matrix[x, y] = 12.0f; e.g.
Makes me cry if they add static reflection and UE is still in the land of UFUNCTION (<insert INI file inside>)
What I see, is what happened to the business of one friend. Hired a senior dude, all was okay, at some point dude started to sneak in some Rust code just for fun & giggles. Dude, fired.
Who would maintain that new thing /shrug
[[ ]] would be nice, if it was library extensible (tho maybe too dangerous ๐ค )
Yeah, I think the "Meta" actually makes a lot of things too complex.
Combined with the tech debt in that old code....
As with any aged system. Frankly, I think Epic should put a bit more in development than into just dumping free games on the platform say. But maybe there is some business logic I don't see now.
lol, yeah
sigh
50% off for the first year say. Somehow does not sound tempting.
We are so into software-as-a-service
Migrating to game-as-a-service
GAAS
Tbh personally I find GAAS to be a short lived solution
I dunno, I miss when I buy a game and I owned the game
GAAS means my enjoyment of a game relies entirely on how much money it brings in
I see it as the future, currently season passes, dlcs, lootboxes, skins, etc.
Big stores offer just subbing to their portfolio
Sire, I still deal with origin, Uplay, battlenet
GFWL
GameSpy
Agony
Living in Spain but the s is silent
I wouldn't mind if games were designed with the acceptance that they will die one day, and make a long term effort to abandon games in a state where they can be played
I mean, look at ubi killing games left and right and in turn killing your DLC
I predict a sudden 2000s level revival of the bay and others going full limewire
I mean yea it's a scene now but it's not like it was back in the 2000s
.
Piracy is illegal in general my guy
Even back then
Lol
rule 5...
Don't get banned, peeps. Think the current one discussion is OK but be careful.
- Don't encourage or facilitate piracy. This includes sharing/promoting/requesting pirated goods or methods for acquiring them. Discussing tools for PC mods is OK if they're permitted by the game's creators. Discussing the broader topic of piracy and its implications is permitted.
And I think people are starting to get tired of the whole "service" format
That's cool, you can just stop playing every AAA or even AA game then ๐
It's not for the player's benefit
Hard incorrect, tank
People loved Netflix and spotify
Because they gave what you wanted on a single platform for a flat price
Then everyone made a service and basically recreated the problem that was solved with the introduction of Netflix and spotify
Now it's not Netflix and hulu
It's Netflix Hulu Disney+ HBO max
Amazon Prime, regional ones
It has defeated the purpose of the streaming service because now we can't get what we want lol
Serving the consumer was never the purpose.
Oh sure, I'm not denying that
now we will get something new to again fix this issue
It's just corpos digging their own graves and complaining about issues they created lol
Unpredictable, bursty income is business planning hell. Consistent, frequent bits of income is ez moed
The new job I'm joining is SUPER holiday oriented, with some luck I don't have to wreck my Christmas break over it ๐
Holiday season is wild man
A holiday oriented job and a christmas break?
Though as time goes on we won't have black Friday stampedes like we used to, for better or worse.
Well IDK, I'm just going to b a software engineer, not a reliability engineer or ops or anything like that. I'm hopin
You mean "early pumpkin spice season".
Thanksgiving really was not a relevant thing since we realized Columbus was kinda a prick
Our family just does the slav classic, "oh look another excuse to drink and eat."
That's Columbus Day. Thanksgiving is about pilgrims and turkeys and autumn decor.
Is it really an occasion if alleged family members show up that you haven't ever met before? ๐
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Columbus is that guy who stole all the credit right
Roll up I'll feed anyone
I'm there if you've got quark or especially 'sirok', can't quite find it where I've moved to
James Tiberius Cook
That's the JCU guy hey?
Thanksgiving is barely a thing here, but some people do that (and Halloween). Feels like we're roleplaying Americans though lol
I swear they make that segment of history intentionally boring.
Funny thing is, those holidays are entirely about roleplaying Americans.
USA stole Halloween anyways so I feel like Im legit taking it back ๐
Last time a single kid knocked on the door all day, and I didn't know about it. Panicked and gave him a protein bar lol
not sure if trick or treat
A trick to land him the bitties, once he has one bite and gets huge as ๐ช
i am top 100% in tht
That means you're genuinely terrible, and 100% of the population is (or could be) better than you
exactly
You're on Discord, stop lying
trust me your mum wasnt disappointed
Either his parents are proud of him, or they aren't around to disappoint.
oh did I say that out loud ๐
We call the latter one the Batman exemption.
There's always one!
I've spent half the day trying to set up Plex and Samba sharing, why is tech always so much more complicated than it needs to be ๐
Basically this
The only thing that truly saves time is standardization. (Prove me wrong, I did not think hard about this.)
(Am now thinking hard about the redundancy of that disclaimer.)
In general, when doing things and stuff that take time, the only thing that saves time instead of adding on more time, for performing said things and stuff, is standardisation.
I could be a lawyer, just realised.
Not if you're using phrases like "in general"
That was the TL;DR for when I don't have my fancy $ symbol ๐
generally speaking
o/
samba setup is kinda wild the first time
got it up and running now though
pro tip for plex, just run a docker container
so much easier
all my services run in docker container
so nice
I just use samba for some NAS kinda thing
you should set up a Radarr, Sonarr, Overseerr, Deluge, Plex combo
so nice
I can just request movies from the overseerr UI and it automatically downloads them and puts them in my plex dir
and of course a nice Heimdall home page for easy access
whoever invented docker was a genius ngl
ngl, haven't heard any of these
Okay, except Deluge
they work very nicely together, great stuff
who lists stuff backwards
1 and 3 are fav
- 20 .. 20 is a classic
17 is the most common one for me
i say that every time when it works and when it doesn't
20, 17, 12, 8, 1
I definitely used these lol
๐คฃ naughty !!
16 sounds really lame
32 19 16 7
mine is just 20
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can't wait for you to get angry enough to fix the whole world ๐
crystal water !
xero is green as well!
oh it's aot! i got it
I never watched AoT but heard it's not that great as it is made out to be
well I can't tell from the water what it is!
I only knew it by checking the link of the gif
same..
if you know the scene you get why it was a response to can't wait for you to get angry enough to fix the whole world
i don't know the scene but i think i got the gist of it!
the world got fixed!
some people just want an action show and hate layered storytelling
for all the borderline gore lovers
not really. most of the complainers are crying about 1 season of mostly talking
the rest hate stories where there isn't a clear right or wrong (rather everybody is very wrong)
i guess they should really take a look at the 2x or 3x buttons!
i haven't seen the recent seasons so idk what happens yet
that's why I'm not really saying anything. I think it's a good story best enjoyed if you aren't spoiled
does anyone here use a mono air conditioner? wonder if those stand alone things are even worth a penny
that's how they are called here, there's mono systems (stand alone) and split systems which have an external unit
so a normal window AC or a portable AC?
yes
no I mean which
aren't they the same?
lol
no in window is more efficient
How single unit AC actually transfers out heat? ๐ค
oh, you mean those blocks that you place in a window which push the hot air out
yea, that's not an option, so portable
it sounds to me like a "mono" would be a portable AC, eg. one that sits inside the room and has some sorta pipes through a window
portable exhaust is a bottle neck
you have a tube which is used to blow hot air out
which you usually mount in a window frame
they can be loud but they do work, you may have to have some kind of piece in the window to block air circulation to improve efficiency
they are not as efficient as split units
that's not what I mean by in window... that's a portable
yea, i mean portable
mosquitos will love that
well obviously, but they are temporary
well some places don't allow you to have the wall mounted units so temporary or no :D
you meant this one with "window ac" i guess?
anyway the loudness is probably the main downside of it
it may be hard to sleep in the same room, but for example if you work in the same room, noise canceling headphones can mitigate the noise
well, i wonder if they can cool down a 60mยณ room from 35ยฐC to 25ยฐC
that's a kinda superficial read imo
hard to say whether they'd do it 35->25 but surely it would still be an improvement if you got it down even 5 C lol
idk if it's worth the energy for 5ยฐC ๐
I've heard something like 35->25 may be pushing it even with a split unit
i rather sleep at daytime and work through the night then ๐
not really my reaction, can't relate on that
tbh I think questions like how effective they'd be in that situation would probably be best asked from companies that sell those units
they should be able to help with those types of questions as they should know what they're selling
well, they tell you that they are awesome so you buy one ๐
split or portable?
probably also depends on a lot of factors, like how well insulated the building is, and if it got direct sunlight the whole day or not
i'm lucky that the sun is heating up the other side of the building after 12pm
Install tinfoil around building to reflect heat
some of my neighbours have curtains hanging down their balcony, looks awful ๐
he should rot in hell
I was considering a split unit, they allow installing those in this building thankfully
I think I may be able to get a tax deduction for it, because I work from home so technically it's partially a business expense to have your office space at livable temperature :P
infact I'm pretty sure there is work safety stuff which have recommendations on office teemperature
it's something like 21-25 C for office work I think
well what's off about that is in my opinion:
||Marley is only similar to Nazi Germany in their treatment of the Eldians (similar to the Jews in WWII obviously), but they're more similar to Rome/Italy in design/names (Italy also had ghettos in WWII for Jews) and the US in their use of "stolen" enemy military power from a defeated enemy||
||Paradise Island/Eldia is what actually becomes similar Nazi Germany in the end and is German themed in design/names, they're also based on the Jews in some ways obviously||
||Eren is not like Moses in any way that I can see...||
||He sees his own future and realizes he has no free will; so he decides he has no choice on the horrible future he saw if he wants to save his friends. He tries several times to avoid this future and can't seem to break from its course so he goes with it (eventually realizing he is also the initiator of all these events). Obviously none of that stops him from being wrong morally.||
I think the real life inspirations are obvious to add flavor to the world building and act as shorthand for the audience so they immediately understand more about the setting. I'd be careful trying to draw any truly direct comparisons because unlike real life we're all just normal humans, ||the Eldians can actually turn into monsters so there is a reason the rest of the world would fear them||.
clicks annoyed
Is it attack on titan night tonight?
8:26am for me
Attack on titan day I guess.
What are you smoking?
Not a smoker, but I'm chewing some pizza at the moment~
I have one for a bit later too ๐
Wut, you have pizza too at this very moment ๐
Spooky coincidence...
!8ball do you like pizza?
@supple apex, :8ball: Ask again later.
Sigh ๐
!8ball does pizza like you?
@proud jay, :8ball: Very doubtful.
Attack on titan topic-wise, is Eren name really Eren? I mean, is there such a name in either jewish or german culture historically?
no it's actually a Turkish spelling
Ah, turkish? Just like the dude who usually spend his time in the lounge then?
although it could just be a made up spelling that just happens to have a real life equivelent
it took me a while to understand topic is AoT
The dude arrived at the exact time.
it's mostly me being the only person who watches or likes it actually here
I just realised. Thanks. All that secrecy :/
Season 1 is dope, drop the rest - my conclusion.
Season 1 is an action show to setup an actual story in the other seasons imo
Turkish version of Aaron?
Too political and muddy.
only if making any kind of statements is too political... honestly the strongest message is that war is bad and genocide is always wrong
Eren name has origins to Persian names, after a few hundred years its evolved into a mix of Persian and Turkish -- it means "someone who accomplished" or "someone who achieved"
Persian Muslims were using that definition for people who is very religious
like "accomplished its duties to god" etc
Yeah, is not so bad. Still too sucked out of the fingers. Slow.
no idea how it ended up being an anime character name in AoT 
any of the ideas for the name origin are very fitting for the character
@timber viper
Great explanation, didn't know that, thank you ๐
so you're saying your parents didn't name you after AoT?
lol ||I mean, Eren and the other Attack titans can see future memories, it's possible||
ok, but have you heard of not being a weeb
Have you saw what happens when they stick a needle in your butt? People transform.
oh man its been too long since I saw Herbie
it's good for people like me who have a very bad understanding of world politics i guess, so i can ignore the references ๐
I remember watching Herbie and smoking some herbie at the same time. Duality is king.
you are the king ! ๐
did you go bananas?
actually, if you were the king of somewhere, what would you do ๐ค
Anyone remember those old Sinbad movies?
Pics?
Some stop motion animation from the movie "The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad" (1958).
similar to Jason and the Argonauts
@deep copper
Some space anime alien took over your pfp?
i was just inspired by your green!
Team green it is, welcome ๐ฅ
yay go green! ๐ณ
I'll take a kiwi thank you ๐ฅ
Not sure how to eat a tree in one bite.
Have you saw the outtakes from the LotR films, where Merry and Pippin are sitting on a wall doing different levels of erm.. enjoying their pipes? Genuinely funny to see.. two hobbies completely stoned.
some finns are in Assembly Summer 2022
how about me instead of the tree then?
is that before or after second lunch?
that movie must have had about a million out-takes
haters will say it was generated by MidJourney
Mid in MidJourney stands for Middle Earth
thought you guys were talking about michael jackson
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am eating ๐
is it good?
havent taken first bite yet ๐ฆ just off the pan
ohh
Hmm. Yup. Not bad
Eat distractions, remove peacefully.
I've dropped 25lbs since january mostly cause I've been too lazy to cook/eat during the day
so, lost weight(yay) but not in a healthy way
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she ate lots of chicken probably
or maybe the male variant of chicken
she shoulda pulled the ball away like she normally does
what's done is done though, time to plan ahead!
Poor Schroeder.
Yeah! plan ahead. like how I'm going to try and sleep in a bit
sleep with the chicken! luos said they can be cuddly depending on the breed
but its already dead, cooked, and partially digested
well you are just, more closer than expected!
why would you cuddle a chicken... instead of eating it
because soft and warm?
but tasty?
wait they ARE warm right?
once cooked properly yes
also serves as emergency night snacks!
I wouldnt call chicken emergency night snack ๐ค
you give your kids dog chew toys?
just a bite?
i have never handled kids OR dogs xD
kids are a lot like dogs. You feed them, take them for a walk and pat them on the head every now and again
and if they pee on the floor, you rub their face in it
they cry, they demand, they request attention
kids are awesome
if they get agitated, you put them in a cage
do you have any?
or cradle, same thing
nope, I'm just 21 lol
no kids here either. no skill with women
well when you have your own, its different than other people's kids. You see yourself and your future in them
hope not
it's probably like programming a robo
i'd be telling them "ohhh ho hoho.. you are FUCKED" all the time
it grows based on input
I can imagine something like that happens, assuming how my parents were patient against a child like me back then ๐คฃ
i heard mothers are less disgusted at their child's weird stuff
after you change a few diapers I think your tolerance goes up
i think this is something you can only find out once you are a parent
same
My kids are the reason I'm still alive. I lost hope in life a long time ago, but I stick around for them mostly.
I'd prefer not finding out the hard way that I don't like it
responsibility huh, i think i can understand that
yeah, we'd be lost without you
thanks dad
naah this place would be cheerier without me and my depressive nature :p
nope, I'm still here
affectionate_user is here, balances out
bullshit?
when will these people learn, they shouldn't ask questions.
yeah

For gaming... hmm... I haven't snacked in awhile. I usually eat instead.
Maybe a box of icecream?
I like dry roasted peanuts. get a massive bag of them that lasts a couple of sessions
i saw a product that's like chopsticks, attatched to your hand while gaming, so you can pick up stuff with it without messing your hands
a fork?
I avoid nuts. I can't stop eating them.
it's attatched to your hands so you just move a thumb or something only, for quick gaming where you don't have time to leave the controller
lies, you dont avoid nuts. You're in #lounge
lol
but tbf i think it's a waste
k, I've made a few good jokes. Gonna goto bed before I make a bad one. G'night all
gn
this gif is awesome
thats why I'm paying for the internet
you are awesome too!
i think!
but you can't get them dirty while using devices or else the devices will get dirty and they will die the next day because a bread crumb got inside them and did reactions!
so you put on additional fingers
which makes your hands heavy so you are also training your muscles!
let me find it so i can atleast explain what it was
Godrick the Grafted is getting excited about this conversation.
i actually found something similar called "finger chopsticks" the one i saw was similar just that it had round / paw like grabbing thing at end
and the one i saw was longer and seemed heavier
or idk maybe i remember wrong and this is it
bi directional hand !
I fecking weep for mankind. Read some posts in #ue5-general ... Where is the delete key? -> press the del key -> ok ty..... I mean..
that's like asking where is the space bar
okay let's try to assume the best case for them
they asked "where is the delete button" so they were probably searching for some UI delete button
not keyboard one
yeah that's the best explaination i could come up with
quite possibly right too, I still weep but maybe a smidgen less... ๐
i think it's safe to assume it's their first time with anything software
of this kind
or they are having a bad day
You know that one "Press Any Key"... and then - where is the Any key?
that joke is so old that 8-bit computers groan.
lancia delta right
yeah
My mate had that "To start press the any key.." part as his boot up sound. His girlfriend turned to him and asked where it was. Yup. She was that person ๐
It's Secto Rally Finland Week, FULL SEND!๐ฅ
@OfficialWRC #sectorallyfinland @VisitJyvaskyla
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@ rwxtom ?
mako left?
they left way back and i stopped doing anything to them as they never responded anyway
i was suspicious for a while because i couldn't ping them even after search (which doesn't show them ) ๐ค
i explained anyway, I don't want you defaming me !
devilsd thinks of me as a borderline troublemaker already
but well, i will let you off since you called me fam ...
i have seen my weeb comrades use ^-^
what thing? did i miss something
oh no... he was about to join a new job etc recently
i hope it was okay
and his account still exists so, hope?

borderline troublemaker
did he state it like that? ๐
@timber viper
he didn't mean it that way xD but it can definitely come across as "i am watching you" you know that gesture people do? fingers towards eyes then to the person
it can also mean "come out weebs make some noise!"

cpp can get out of hand for sure, but their saving grace is they 99% of time will always stop the nonsense to answer questions.
lol
exactly
it's like cpp is multithreaded, one is offtopic and one is busy answering questions
maybe it uses laura's coroutines
no its single threaded, there is just 1% chance of missing a question or no one able to answer
people who dont stop when someone asks a serious question are either new to the channel or purely trolls 
today I finished assassination classrom in one day
both two seasons
ff14 too
Laura is communist
confirmed
its 99% true
it's probably a 99.999% float
R6 โค๏ธ
reminds of china doing tank things near Taiwan
didnt see any flying tanks but wouldnt be surprised
Look, it is crawling.
midjourney has more realistic results
g'day

