latest-updates

[fresh cedar]

Besides I had AA

[left portal]

no cas? no tanks? your 36w arent pushing

[fresh cedar]

No lol, 36w sucks

[left portal]

yes at pushing alone

[fresh cedar]

I had air and flame support 😂

[left portal]

dont get me wrong, 20w are great if your using them as human wave pushing blocks

[fresh cedar]

As in the enemy

[left portal]

so you had cas?

[fresh cedar]

Yes

[left portal]

how much cas damage where you doing

[fresh cedar]

A lot, Japanese buffs are nasty late game

Like legit Japan is way too strong

Claps America 9/10 games it seems

I haven’t even seen America take any islands 😭

Every game Japan has just pushed to Hawaii

Did 4 games so far

[left portal]

america with the same shitty tree from years ago with no newer dlc compatibility exept for the few bits shoe horned in that just had every general and marshal get their level reduced by 1 with no counter balance by paradox except a focus giving 2-3 generals their level back? wow, who coulda guessed

[fresh cedar]

Idk why they didn’t just give naval buffs to a few focuses

Or anything

Legit largest industrial base of the entire war and it feels like some dated backwater

[left portal]

almost like, paradox would rather have america be terrible so we are more likely to buy any upcoming allies rework yk

[fresh cedar]

Nah but if you gonna have historical mode, should be historical

[left portal]

well

thats thing with "historical" in hoi4

its only historical in pathing

not who wins

same for historical mp games

[fresh cedar]

In my game I held out as the Phillipines loyal to the USA. Was 1946, US lost Pearl Harbor despite me convoy raiding Japan and holding all my land.

Then in 1948, Allies declared war on Soviets before Japan was even dead.

[hushed lion]

Idk add a 100% attack buff to usa on historical or something

Make rhe game unplayable

[fresh cedar]

Well the game is historically pathed for the USA to get curb stomped

[left portal]

fair, fair

[polar jasper]

So they got rid of ghost field marshal planning, but added an immobile cohesion setting to compensate now

Neat

[left portal]

Agian, its almost like its an issue a new focus tree would fix thatll be like...50 dollars or somethin

[fresh cedar]

I’m not even super patriotic or anything. But USA is legit trash in the current patch 😭

[left portal]

theyve already added immobile?

[polar jasper]

Im just reading the patch notes

[left portal]

I thought it was only planned

[polar jasper]

That is to be released

[left portal]

ah

so its coming soon

[polar jasper]

Idk, all I've done so far is play 1939 China

And it's pain

I cant touch their medium tanks yet

[fresh cedar]

1936 China is also pain

[polar jasper]

I haven't produced enough AA to field in divisions

[fresh cedar]

I love when you retake the coastline just for Japan to land at 4 diff ports with 10 million soldiers within weeks of taking it back

[median bronze]

they removed planning bonus meming lmaoo

no more meme tank micro

[polar jasper]

Well, you can get immobile cohesion soon

[fresh cedar]

France gonna be rough ngl

[polar jasper]

Which acts similiar

[median bronze]

u can still do it u just have to set it to immobile

[fresh cedar]

Planning bonus saved France

[median bronze]

u get HALF the planning

[fresh cedar]

They murked anarchism too

[polar jasper]

Half the planning speed i thought

Not half the planning bonus

[fresh cedar]

Anarchist society economy law is basically as inefficient energy wise as Total Mobilization

[rocky escarp]

Doesn't France already have planning speed debuff?
So extra debuff from the cohesion option on top of it

Or was it another planning stat

[fresh cedar]

50% extra energy usage total mob, 45% for anarchism

[median bronze]

are the seaplane tenders just for spotting now like the cruiser ship to patrol spam with spotting?

[fresh cedar]

Idk haven’t used yet

I haven’t touched navy really

[median bronze]

yeah it is

its a cheaper version of it

[polar jasper]

Neat

All I have been doing is slowly falling back

[median bronze]

take ur pick

[polar jasper]

Destroyers really becoming the everything ship

[median bronze]

i mean ig its cool if u want sub detection

group 1 of them with an anti submarine destroyer

and u will destroy any subs

small groups of them will be cool on convoy escort

[polar jasper]

I just want to see if an Escort CV, heavy cruiser with majority floatplanes, and destroyers with floatplanes and depth charges will be useful for ASW

[median bronze]

1 destroyer with depth charges one with seaplanes

u dont need the escorts cv with these tbf

[polar jasper]

But muh larp

It would have been epic if you didn't need capital escorts for escort cv

Budget carrier task force

[fresh cedar]

Escort cover letter

[median bronze]

im not sure if u can just do one anti sub destroyer and 1 spotting destroyer tbf

[teal ingot]

There is error in polish translation
In game northeastern army is called "armia południowo-wschodnia" which means southeastern army

[polar jasper]

That reminds me, I need to check if you can put the FVwhateverthenumber is on the Centurian chassis as UK

[twin nymph]

any1 knows how to download 1.16.10?

[jade mulch]

i present; bug(its 1938)

[median bronze]

wdym bro thats just normal

[fresh cedar]

They don’t call it Tanna for nothing

[urban wraith]

After 1,000 hours of playing this wonderful game, everyone was tired of doing the same thing when playing as the same country. It was great when they had created template saves for tanks, planes, ships in playgrounds. I am very grateful to them. It was a very good move.

[whole arch]

Damn they fixed this that makes me really sad 😔
No Tannu focus tree AND massive nerfs to it

[hushed lion]

Tiny tuva

[merry wharf]

how do i declare on china as japan

[brittle venture]

with the army mission

[merry wharf]

It keeps going back

[thick yew]

British reskin when? Serious question lol

Or rework. Britain vanilla is kinda meh

Uniforms, focous etc etc

[hushed lion]

is this focus icon ai?

[hushed lion]

Allies dlc presumably next year

[thick yew]

hope so!

[hoary siren]

Probably US, Canada and Mexico main dlc next year with Central American country pack

UK year after

[hushed lion]

Lmao central america country pack

Can't wait for honduras focus tree

[meager dragon]

wait so paradox decided that they hate people microing divisions and not using their abysmal system for unit relocation

so now GBP is useless for people who want to micro their troops as the planning speed bonuses will just go towards "unnerfing" the halved stat from setting troops to "immobile", awesome

well I guess GBP doesn't really exist anymore now that it's the new doctrines, how sneaky

[hearty blade]

a lot of it is AI i presume

[stoic pebble]

Great British Pound

[meager dragon]

😔

[hushed lion]

The rest of it doesnt have the piss tint hopefully not

[meager dragon]

the rosbif have gotten too comfortable

[crimson tartan]

you will know 0.000000005% of the game mechanics after this

[hollow lion]

If I understand correctly they cant use AI-generated content without specifying that they did on the store page

[hushed lion]

Fair enough

[valid inlet]

have they fixxed planning yet

[lavish ginkgo]

Does China have a Christian path?

[wise oxide]

best feature

[proper timber]

Nah, definetly not. Hoi4 would never allow AI art in their game

[polar bronze]

A central american pack would be the worse dlc ever

Ireland should atleast get a tree before any central American country

[thick edge]

Ehhhh

[potent bane]

is it just me or is getting china a 3rd research slot take ages?

ik you can rush one at the end of the industry tree but I specifically mean the one where you have to wait for the countryside modifier to get down to 5% penalty. I got to 1941 and only then got a 3rd slot lol

[lavish ginkgo]

I genuinely want to know if China or any warlords have Christian paths, I know ma cliques are obviously Muslim but I'm curious about other ones.

[potent bane]

I don't think so, at least not with nationalist china

they have a tutleage historical/ahistorical path, democratic and then the blue shirts path

blue shirts is more middle kingdom / ancient china (at least that's what the foci hinted with the middle kingdom focus)

[rough moon]

what was the problem on planning

[valid inlet]

couldnt micro with planning

[crimson tartan]

update game icon?

[hushed lion]

Idk did it? I have a custom icon set so I wouldn't know

[wise oxide]

never seen german ai lose all its men

no more infinite war lets goo

[wise sparrow]

theres a mispelling error in the filipino focus tree
"with OUT" isntead of "with our"

[barren tusk]

is not a bug.

is a feature for tannnu tuva enjoyers

[rocky escarp]

So I tried the immobile cohesion and the problem I'm seeing is that newly trained units set to the order just stay in place

[quaint coral]

can someone explain to me the "value" of this new faction mechanic? I feel like the OP is so overpowered in the game that whether your faction actually helps or not is low key immaterial

[hushed lion]

Finally historical Germany

[wise oxide]

too bad that japan is standing strong in 1949

what is the big A doing on hist?

finally. paradox fix that its a huge part of why japan actually surrendered in 1945

they choose to fight uk instead of japan first

on historical

had to help a trillion times to make this game historical

is there an event of japanese surrender?

also if ai usa would nuke them would be immersive

[hushed lion]

It's cool that the new nations glow on the start screen

[rocky escarp]

Oh no

Units pushed back during a battle don't return to the frontline

[vast shore]

I think they broke the AI this update.

[hoary siren]

Nukes right?….right?

[wise oxide]

that is also missing

[dense gale]

Nonexistent

Only for larp

U can entirely not interact with it and nothing will change

[brittle venture]

theres some

ussr can get more xp

[dense gale]

But than xp is pretty pointless now😂

[winter tartan]

There is new content

The Japanese war effort will collapse should some conditions be fulfilled. Read the dev diary

[strong grail]

Xp is pretty pointless now

But also they hard nerfed ussr

Now you need to spend like 45 civs importing coal just to fuel like 300 factories

[vast shore]

yes

but I actually like that lol

spending it on

special forces

[strong grail]

wdym spending it on special forces

[vast shore]

the

special forces doctrine?

well just mountaineers I guess

[strong grail]

i think it is better now though that its harder to max out doctrines

[vast shore]

I found it easier lol

[brittle venture]

no?

you still need like 500

so early on its good

[dense gale]

400 xp is nothing burger

Arti tree don’t count

Since u can barely get mastery for it anyway

Ur capped harder by mastery

[hoary siren]

Like they were saying in RB, just making 100 4w of whatever type you need and just training it may be the way to go now

[dense gale]

Yea

I mean just need to figure out how to cheese mastery

[median bronze]

guys so when I patrol and strike force and my strike force joins a battle from a spotting cruiser how can i see the spotting stats that were added to the battle

[hollow coral]

middle kingdom is just the literal translation of china

[strange void]

i'm so glad naval is even more incomprehensible now

i cant get dominance in the aegean even though there are 0 enemy ships there and the entire italian navy is in it

[clear tundra]

You have to set patrols for Naval dim

[fossil torrent]

I know most people probably don’t go battleship focus on Japan but what’s the point of doing it for a “Tsushima Class” supper heavy BB and then get 4 of a “Yamato class” Super Heavy? Would make more sense to just give an improved battleship hull instead for the Tsushima class

[strange void]

i have them on patrol in the aegean

and removed all other sea zones so they will only patrol there

still 0 dominance gain

the other zones got dominance but not the aegean

[lavish ginkgo]

How do I get the secret warlord monarchist path?

[hollow coral]

Not really a secret path but you have to go down the opposition or align with roc path

[heavy bolt]

is there only the empress for secret path or are there more in this dlc

[hollow coral]

Socialist buddhist path for japan

[glossy inlet]

MacArthur for Philippines

[hollow coral]

How to get that btw

[heavy bolt]

how to get that?

[hollow coral]

watch hollowbeings latest video

[glossy inlet]

I was just messing with the tree playing with the ganap apparently when you assassinate quezon you get an event for Eisenhower to prevent them from taking over eventually calling upon MacArthur to take things over

[stable tusk]

I think it's:

1. Get MacArthur to stay and Eisenhower as police chief
2. Kill the starting leader guy

[glossy inlet]

I was about to say I think that might be how you do it cause I autocompleted that part to see if they stick with you even if your independent and fascist

[cosmic falcon]

If we do get a third expansion pass, I predict that the USA will recieve a rework.

[fickle trench]

what is this coal thing

how do we get more coal if we are out?

[brittle venture]

excav

[lavish ginkgo]

Can you do it as communist Sinkiang?

[tall lance]

that doesnt quite look like chiang 👀

[thick edge]

haircut

[hoary siren]

SHBBs are just better for about everything

[hollow coral]

Can do it as any warlord

[fresh cedar]

What templates yall running

[dapper lotus]

Bruh does anyone know where to find proclaim an empire focus for the warlords

And I deadass can’t find it somehow

is it like a secret focus or am I being stupid

like how do you do the achievement

[short tree]

The subscription gives you the new dlc too rigrh(

?

[dense vale]

yes

[dense vale]

you need the focus that switches your focus tree to nationalist china

as long as you don’t go communist you get it

[drifting star]

Rate my kumal run

[verbal lynx]

They did that a while ago

[dapper lotus]

God bless you

thank you

[drifting star]

Update I lost run ruined

[wintry turtle]

Are there any changes if you didn't buy the expansion pass?

[hollow coral]

japan historical army and industrial trees are updated

[gilded hazel]

And political

[plucky ledge]

i don't thats hirohito

[harsh hull]

Emperor Hirohito is the head of state

Okada is the head of government at the time

Does that mean that the UK's portrait at the top should be King George instead of Baldwin?

Yes probably, but Paradox isn't known for consistency

[brittle venture]

uk update...

well by that logic the US leader should be a big dollar sign

[harsh hull]

No, the US one should be the Shadow Council of the Secret Government

But they won't let their figure be licensed

It's a whole legal nightmare

Comparative of Chinese Provinces borders in HOi4 with their modern real-world counterparts

You can see the areas they updated in NCNS versus what they left from WTT

You unfortunately can't get a good rendition of Inner Mongolia right now, because they didn't update Manchuria's states like, at all

[plucky ledge]

ohh

[hollow coral]

Compare it with roc provinces instead

[plucky ledge]

I heard Hirohito was kinda "influenced" by some other higher ups to do stuff like pearl harbor and invade the rest of southeast asia, giving hirohito more of a innocent personality

not sure how true that is though

[harsh hull]

Well yes, that does make more sense to what we have

But a number of states draw from their modern counterparts to facilitate post-war map painting, which is what I was looking at

But whichever map you look at, Hupei/Hubei is all sorts of off-kilter

[floral mesa]

is the new update included in the subscribtion pass?

[lavish ginkgo]

Which of the warlords would be the most likely to proclaim a new dynasty?

[lavish ginkgo]

Can Feng Yuxiang lead China?

[iron shell]

Hello, maybe not the most important bug, but i was wondering about the music player in the new update. The tracks in the OST are totally randomly ordered now, which makes it impossible to listen to the new tracks in a row. In past expansions the new tracks would be added at the bottom of the list, where I was able to find them easily. Can you please order the tracks of the sountrack by release date again?

[hollow coral]

no

i doubt any warlords wouldve actually proclaimed themselves emperor after the first time that happened but if i had to choose it would probably be Han fuju

[wet anvil]

are the new faction mechanics in the basegame?

[lavish ginkgo]

Why him?

How do I win the 6th encirclement campaign as the northeastern army?

[brittle venture]

i mean at gane start the true warlord era was already ending

[hollow coral]

like yuan shikai he was very opportunistic so if he had the chance he mightve proclaimed himself emperor

[brittle venture]

it was very dominantly kmt controlled

the sino-japanese war was just what collapsed the kmt as they were centralizing and gaining power, allowing the prc to cease this gap of weakness and take over rapidly

thats what i know about it

[hollow coral]

thats unrelated to the question

[brittle venture]

yeah but

in the previous pre kmt warlord era

many warlords did actually fight for true ownership of china

[floral anvil]

Can someone explain to me why it is so unfathomably technically hard to code the same width in a tech tree? Is there a major brain drain at Paradox?

[brittle venture]

and there wouldve been candidates who would want to be emperor

[hollow coral]

but shandong is misrepresented it was more of a glorified province rather than a nominal clique

[brittle venture]

by game start, most leaders are already not too ambitious

[hollow coral]

sheng shicai was probably the most ambitious

[brittle venture]

yeah but he mostly collaborated too

IMO mao / the prc were the most ambitious and succeeded through a deathly miracle

out of the warlords most of that was already kind of gone?

like there had been years of warfare, poverty

and people at some point just want to rebuild first and foremost

and in this kind of time youll see a shift, really anywhere, where as power is consolidated that there will be less ambitious rulers alongside the main power

thats just my pov/opinion tho

and in this case that would be that no warlords were seeking to be emperor anymore

[lavish ginkgo]

How do I defeat communist china as the northeastern army during the encirclement campaign?

[brittle venture]

even chiang kai shek did not go for such a role

[brittle venture]

either bait them in or have some offensive power

you cant rush the wargoal because your units are too weak

[hollow coral]

i doubt any would have anyways after the national protection war

[floral arrow]

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO PATCH COAL IN ITALY????

THE NEW UPDATE HAS LIKE 12 BUGS ON START

WTH

#StopSellingSlop

[lavish ginkgo]

What focuses should I take before doing the encirclement campaign?

Can I do the encirclement campaign when communist china has a border war?

[brittle venture]

mil spawn in

get artillery or tank tech

tank would require recon tech too

so you can put it as a support company for break

anyway thats more a #ask-for-help-here question

go there

[lavish ginkgo]

Is the ningxia ma border war scripted for ai? If so, can I start the campaign during that?

@brittle venture

[brave oracle]

Is dlc good guys

[brittle venture]

dont ask in this chat, its off topic to the latest game updates

[formal minnow]

Best finnish focus path

?

[hollow coral]

irrelevent to the channel

[formal minnow]

oh mb

i thought this was ask for help channel

[brittle venture]

#ask-for-help-here

[coral kraken]

Can someone show me the portrait of New China Democratic leaders please?

[hollow coral]

its zhang lan, caarsun chang, soong ching ling and zeng qi

unfortunately no sun fo

[coral kraken]

Is there any portrait?

[wet roost]

speedrun japan

[hollow coral]

of course

[coral kraken]

Can I see the portraits please

[hollow coral]

carsun

soong

zeng

[coral kraken]

Nice

Which one is the most based according to you?

[hollow coral]

ig soong since she was the widow of sun yat sen

[edgy tapir]

WAIT SIAM IS GETTING A DLC?

[hushed lion]

Yes

Together with Australia and Indonesia

Possibly malaya

[edgy tapir]

finally

after all this time

one of the most goated nations oat gets a tree

[livid moon]

I just came here to say that the need of coal when you have a civilian nuclear reactor built in every state is absurd. Nuclear reactors should reduce the amount of coal needed in a state, lets say 25% reduction for heavy water reactors, 50% for regular reactors and 75% for civilian reactors

[wispy peak]

Yeah to be honest I think the fact that civilian nuclear reactors DO NOT provide energy/energy reduction is criminal

Its already an unbelievably bad special project

The standard nuclear reactors not providing is fine because those are specifically made for the production of the weapons, but the civilian reactor made to provide energy NOT providing energy is silly

[olive knoll]

Why Uranium should be a thing imho

[livid moon]

thats why I posted the description, it literally says "provides electricity for the civilian economy"

[wispy peak]

Considering to even get the civilian nuclear reactor you have to get nuclear research, do a special project that can easily last up to 2 years. Research construction 3 and THEN you can finally do another special project which depending on RNG can take up to 2 years

And then finally sink 35000 ic into the construction of it WHEN IT CANT BE BUILT IN ANY STATE THAT HAS A NORMAL REACTOR

[livid moon]

and in the end it does not give electricity, so you need to burn coal 😭

[wispy peak]

Yeah its literally PURPOSE BUILT to fuel your industry, it should provide immense buffs and energy reductions because you are purposefully skipping out on the nuclear weapons project since you cant build this in a state that has a normal reactor

So your purposefully playing the long game and delaying your ability to send nuclear weaponry, additionally it also produces the nuclear weapons slower like the heavy water reactor which is infinitely cheaper

Tbh I am just gonna change it in my mod to be way better for that reason, if dams which you cant construct can provide a 65% reduction then why cant the literaly holy chalice of energy production do it lol

[wise oxide]

did you release it to play?

spread the word for paradox to fix population

manchu has way too few and kyrgyzia and tajikistan

this is the best historical paradox could do? please make it a bit more accurate

[hushed lion]

Why did the khotan ma win?

[proud basin]

have they fixed world tension yet? cuz i ahd all of china, the siberia of ussr and most minor polynesian countries as japan and ended somehow with 0% world tension

[fresh cedar]

That IC cost is diabolical

[coral drift]

It's coming along....

[wise oxide]

stalingrad max pro

[rocky escarp]

Btw https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/dev-corner-thermodynamics.1803015/post-30535851

[wet roost]

[turbid furnace]

HELP

IM PLAYING AS BRITAIN AND OMAN JUST TOOK OVER ALLIES 😭😭😭

[broken horizon]

is this decision bugged to anyone else? (playing northeastern army warlord)

[turbid furnace]

I gave a research facility and they shoved their scientists and got most faction influence

[rocky escarp]

Yeah I thought they should've actually solved the problem rather than hotfixing only Tannu Tuva to stop clicking the button

[rocky escarp]

Wait what the DLC feature allows this to happen?

[wispy peak]

Yeah honestly the Faction system seems really untested

They intended it to stop members from different continents from joining factions and usurping them randomly causing frustration

Except now its infinitely easier for a nation to usurp a faction for the most random reasons

And then they add a focus for Japan thats like "Join the axis" which completely contradicts the purpose of this new system

[rocky escarp]

What happens if they join the Axis? Do they deny peace conference if Germany capitulates?

[turbid furnace]

After doing a short term goal about research together, you can add special facilities to the faction

[hoary sandal]

at least yugoslavia doesnt join the chinese united front every game now

[turbid furnace]

Norway did in my game

So...

Yeah

[hoary sandal]

and nationalist spain sometimes joined the GEACPS

[rocky escarp]

I know about that feature
I just didn't expect they balanced the faction influence so poorly that it's no less broken in DLC as in the basegame

[rocky escarp]

cries in basegame

[turbid furnace]

Oh yeah if you give the facility as britain, you get no points

If you give a scientist as Oman you'll get points

[hoary siren]

New portraits for people like Doolittle and Thomas Dewey are in the files for the United States now.

[turbid furnace]

I laughed so hard after seeing new engine on Poland

Did they fix it already or still no?

Can your planes be powered by anti-imperialism

[wispy peak]

Powered by pure hatred and anger at imperialism

Thermal energy from the pure anger of the polish pilot

[turbid furnace]

And do the volunteers go back from Spain? As Germany? Or do they still take permanent vacation in Alicante

[wispy peak]

They did say they fixed the bug of a country just stealing your divs

So likely they do come back now?

[hoary sandal]

im suprised i havent seen any dogs on phone calls yet

i usually see some in place of portraits when dlcs release

i think the iraqi leader portrait was replaced with that for a while without the dlc

[rotund cargo]

They do provide local energy consumption reduction

[hoary sandal]

what did civilian reactors do before the update

i thought they were just better nuclear reactors

and never bothered building them

[turbid furnace]

There were civilian reactors?

The more you know™

[hoary sandal]

yeah

[wispy peak]

They produce nuclear weapons slower than normal graphite but they provide bonuses similar to a dam

Local construction speed, local resources and building slots

They now do also provide a bonus of -25% energy consumption which I think is frankly silly given the dams do -65%

[hoary sandal]

lets see if i can politely ask the soviets to release the entirety of siberia

ill send my legendary general Ma Ma to moscow

[turbid furnace]

I have an idea for a new special project

Nuclear raport

Raptor

[hoary sandal]

coughing baby vs hydrogen raptor

[hollow lion]

Surely it should be a toyota, would be on brand

[turbid furnace]

Nuclear raptor is an inside joke of me and my friend

We played a game called stormworks
Loaded a raptor with tons of explosives (arming mechanism was the left blinker). And we tried to load it into a ship and transport it onto a different island without it exploding

[turbid furnace]

After 4 hours of trying to do it we Photoshopped this picture

[waxen axle]

No matter what i do i suck at the game 🙁

[devout valley]

Am I supposed to get a focus tree that doesn't look like current China ones after doung the focus where I change focus tree to nationalist china as a warlords?

[hoary sandal]

its the old one with an extra political path for some reason

[devout valley]

Is that supposed to happen?

[hoary sandal]

yes

[devout valley]

Seems weird to get an outdated focus tree that has a lot of day 70 focuses

[turbid furnace]

How many hours do you have?

[full bolt]

guys do you recommend buying the new dlc? Is it worth it?

[waxen axle]

over 500

[turbid furnace]

It's ok. Is it worth it? Depends how much money you have, I would say 30€ is way way way too much

[wispy peak]

Its a decentish DLC quite imbalanced, but £25 is an absolute rip off given Gotterdammarung adds way more for £21

[severe canyon]

Coal is so buns man

Completely neuters minors while not affecting majors that much at all

Another annoying mechanic

[barren tusk]

do i really need to wait until elections to follow communist path??

[prisma wing]

Okada will die and you can pick a socialist PM

[coral drift]

I do wonder how much for the equivalent of one in-game unit of coal

[arctic lagoon]

a technical would be good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1433113752923930747/1441813554733781122/convert.gif

[barren tusk]

when is he going to die? he is still alive

[prisma wing]

Idk

I see this in TommyKay live

[random prawn]

Kinda odd how the irregulars infantry doctrine path doesnt actually give you irregulars

[languid imp]

is kinda irregular for a irregular doctrine indeed

[calm lodge]

is there a bloody cheat or console command for coal? this thing is driving me nuts 😭

[fading talon]

japan isn't doing pearl harbor, even on hist

it's 1943 and no pearl harbor

[lofty heron]

I did the focus to demand subjugation or war on every Chinese United Front member... hoping that it would cause Nationalist China to leave and go to war...

guess that's my entire day wasted then

now unless I spend a million years integrating them I can't even declare the People's Republic

[exotic sequoia]

does faction contribution affect peace conference points?

[exotic sequoia]

as communist china

and i was annoyed on how my captured land switched owner to neighbouring warlord

[drifting star]

No I went through the focus tree for sikang

[hoary siren]

Just get more silly

[floral anvil]

Paradox, fix this… I learned in fourth grade that uneven spacing was unacceptable

And now you are charging 30 euro for uneven spacing

Is there no playtesting anymore

[quiet verge]

Why didn't Mengjiang get a focus tree?

That Japanese focus tree about Mengjiang should've been shared

[floral anvil]

This yes - such a mistake by paradox

[potent bane]

If you go down the unwilling diarchy path as commie china, and get someone in your faction from the demand the loyalty of the warlords, you are able to do the "seek a peaceful reunification" focus with nationalist china not being in your faction and you get to either annex them or wipe them out with the illegal reigeme spirit

[limber ruin]

Fix multipalayer paradox

[potent bane]

could probably rush the focuses and get them annexed in 38?

[polar jasper]

They have even spacing between rangers and the other two. The problem was adding the marines clearly

[bitter helm]

Man Paradox really went the boring OP puppet and core everyone path for democratic Japan

[wise oxide]

HELP WHAT DO I NEED TO DO

[bitter helm]

I would’ve maybe liked to see two paths for democratic Japan, one more focused on building up the economies of your allies, and in turn reaping economic benefits, and then the other path being a federation path that is more difficult and gives you less economic benefits, but leads to the direct annexation of land

[fading talon]

it's bugged

[wise oxide]

i cheated

now its fine

[fading talon]

i always pick the opposite side so i can join the allies

did japan do pearl harbor in your game

i am assuming you beat japan right

[wise oxide]

no japan lost to me and been a good boy its 1944

[fading talon]

i see

yeah i clapped them out too, and then they just never did pearl harbor

so the us never joined the war

and i had to help the soviets out

[wise oxide]

im going to invade the soviets and make the allies fight the axis forever

[fading talon]

boo

[wise oxide]

taking advantage of that

[fading talon]

i united normal china and rp'd as a good democracy

[wise oxide]

im imperialist china first this game

[fading talon]

crazy how the kmt revolted against the imperials just 30 years before the game

[wise oxide]

whats the difference they do the same

[fading talon]

hover over it

one gives you like war support

[wise oxide]

i love that i can invade mongolia and tuva and soviets dont join bc they busy in germany

i need doctorines badly

also first time in my life i demobilized willingly

[wise oxide]

is this a fair trade? i take my land in exchange for peace and all my stockpiles + im gonna join on their side against germany

is this good roleplay?

rate my led-lease

[fading talon]

bro what is this template

[tropic spoke]

I love the new update, now I can have 60 ships in an area with no enemy and still have to wait 100 days or so until it actually counts as dominance

this is also very cool

[wanton hinge]

what free update did they add to the game (i cant afford an 80 dollar dlc)

[winter tartan]

Please look up on the Reddit or in the patchnotes

It had been asked a thousand times already

[wanton hinge]

ok

lol alr

sorry

[hollow coral]

Is that in hkd or aud

[wanton hinge]

aud

[hollow coral]

Because i bought it for like 69 aud

[wanton hinge]

oh rly

maybe i remembered it wrong

[hollow coral]

On steam

i think just the dlc is like 40 aud though

[hollow lion]

Historical Japan, coal, naval

[wanton hinge]

not navy 😭😭

[wanton hinge]

oh wait its $43 for the dlc alone

maybe i was thinking of a pack or smth

yeah the expansion pack 2 is $69

[willow current]

Don't forget about the new UI for trade

[wanton hinge]

fps map broken :(

[hollow coral]

Yeah thats been bothering me too

Im too used to it

Normal map looks wrong

[wanton hinge]

yeah i was like "um why is this so laggy? and why's the map so translucent?"

i found a fps map mod that works tho

[hollow coral]

Does it have colourful buttons

[wanton hinge]

no but i dont like that anyways

[hollow coral]

Good whats it called

[wanton hinge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2775227998&searchtext=fps+map

[gleaming timber]

Please watch my gameplay of how i formed the People's Front as the Chinese Soviet Republic and conquered western China. Thank you!

https://youtu.be/qLI9IQ8UNGs?si=88xdu_p33YS1zMzn

[hollow coral]

sorry but dont self promote here

do it on the reddit instead

[fossil torrent]

Anyone feel the AI navy never comes out to engage in this update ?

[heady sonnet]

ive played Japan 3 times all the way to 1945 capitulating allies but and each time i never found the american fleet

maybe i just suck at navy idk

i only found the british fleet when i put mine in the channel and destroyed it

[fossil torrent]

No I believe it’s ai issues cause I played in observer mode 3 times and American ai didn’t engage and even lost Pearl Harbor

[heady sonnet]

yeah america never defends pearl harbor for some reason either

[fossil torrent]

Needs hot fixed honestly it’s pretty miserable for single player

[heady sonnet]

now that i think of it there is def some ai issue because i remember when i returned to menu some times in the middle of the game the usa would have 100+ fleets in the leaderboard

[polar jasper]

I wiped the Japanese fleet as the US

So they do come out somewhat

[fossil torrent]

Yeah I was planning a playthrough as ULASR and building navy from scratch so that’s promising Japan navy is behaving maybe it’s just us ai that’s broke. I did check out Italians and not much action there either

[polar jasper]

I understand other countries because oil, but the US shouldn't have any problems with oil

[coral drift]

Methinks there are too few coals
Either from lack of excavation decisions, or that the scaling used for an "equivalent unit" is too high.
Like, if there are 10 times as many, this problem can be severely rectified

[fossil torrent]

Can’t remember which YouTuber reviewing it I saw but they brought up the coal shortage too and paradox apparently promised the guy they’d look into it

[polar jasper]

Me just ignoring war eco and chilling on partial mob

(More coal or the ability to have oil be used to reduce coal usage would be really nice)

[coral drift]

The shortage is just too much
Like, ended up 6000 coals on deficit is crazy

[wispy socket]

What does "35% reduction in Land Doctrine" mean with the new update? Does it affect Mastery at all, or only the initial selection of subdoctrines using army xp?

[polar jasper]

I think it is the initial selection of subdoctrines

[brave oracle]

coal is a big fat mistake

[polar jasper]

I dont see the problem with it

It is just oil 2

[brave oracle]

theres not enough coal

[polar jasper]

Just tune the numbers a bit

But I still think the concept is fine

[drifting star]

Does anyone know of a TNO map that is compatible with the new patch

[barren tusk]

Yesterday I played communist china and my friend china and expelling Japanese was so hard

Maybe china needs a buff or it's because we played badly?

[spring bluff]

Hello, when will the sale end?

[brittle venture]

both

as communist china it shouldnt be too hard

kmt china is trash

[barren tusk]

Basically he was suffering deficit if weapons everytime

So it was upside down

Like a rollercoaster

[raw saffron]

I think China is fine as it is, it's supposed to be challenging

[hollow coral]

i agree to some degree but the content compared to the others is sort of lackluster

[raw saffron]

fair

[dense gale]

coal as a system

kinda nullifies entirely the building of civ

because u will always run out of coal

so why will u build civ to run out of coal faster

[dense gale]

i found commie china harder tbh

kmt china scales hard

its just early game actually requires two brain cells now with last stand micro

[floral arrow]

does anybody know how to naval invade UK as Germany?

on the new update

?

[fresh cedar]

Some counties in particular really lack it, it’s crazy

[wise oxide]

coal is peak adds so much strategic reason to defend and invade the states that have it like now donetsk is actually very important like historically

[dense gale]

coal is arguably the single most dimensional feature in the game

u go up eco law to get more civ

build mils

get coal capped

go down to civ eco

its actual ooga booga gameplay

[wise oxide]

i love that i have to demobilize but yes demobilizing mid war feels odd

but im fine with it

i had infinite economy as china in 1944

both chinas need late game focuses that give them alot of tech they have been missing

[vast shore]

did they fix the mp bug

[fresh cedar]

What’s sad to me is that coal basically nerfed Anarchism and New Economic Policy

I think the 45% energy usage from anarchism is a bit brutal

Should be like 40 or 35. Maybe lower

[urban spade]

Wondering why infiltration tactics operations doctrine gives bonuses to all recon except armoured car

But also gives you infantry bonuses to armoured recon

[twilit jolt]

anyone have an idea how to load nuclear warheads into submarines?

need it for the achievement

got everything, just can't figure out how to launch it

[urban spade]

I would assume it's like rockets where you move it to the "airbase" on the sub?

[twilit jolt]

I've never used rockets before either so I don't know how that works

[urban spade]

AFAIK they're just like aircraft

You might have to create an airwing with them, deploy them like that, then move the rocket

[twilit jolt]

so I need to build a rocket silo to load it to the submarine?

I am never leaving Philippines out alive

[urban spade]

Hm

Maybe but I also might be completely wrong

How are you at 1956 with no tension lol

[twilit jolt]

peace treaties

[short mauve]

the new reorganized national government of china doesnt make any sense. either japan should give the rest of the china to manchuko (like in kaiserreich) or give the manchuria to the reorganized national government of china

[fresh cedar]

It’s basically just flipping China

[languid imp]

dockyards consume coal too?? they are the mils for navy, must consume it too I guess

[polar jasper]

Special project for missile launchers in submarines

You dont need to make land based ones

[twilit jolt]

yeah figured

[dire coyote]

its literally history?

[twilit jolt]

I am never getting out of Philippines

[urban spade]

I assumed you had the submarines already, you said you had everything

[polar jasper]

Im pretty sure both existed together irl

[twilit jolt]

they did yeah

Reorganised ROC was a merger of 3 separate puppet states established by China throughout the war afaik

[polar jasper]

Established by China?

[short mauve]

Wasnt puyi aiming to become the only leader of china. so i think after the full invasion of china, japan would create a reorganized puppet government(containing all of the china) with puyi being the leader

[polar jasper]

Puyi had now power

Absolutely nothing was going to happen that saw him not be more than a puppet leader

Wang Jingwei was given power over the reorganized government. Puyi was also a Manchu

[short mauve]

what is the purpose of having 2 different puppets which both of them claiming each other

[polar jasper]

Nothing, because they answer to Japan

They dont claim each other because Japan says so

[short mauve]

oh it makes more sense now

[twilit jolt]

[polar jasper]

Oooooof

[twilit jolt]

it's been 10 hours

[polar jasper]

Cold War tech for a reason I guess

It's been 84 years...

[twilit jolt]

at the rate of 10fps, that research is gonna take at least 3 hours

[polar jasper]

Ive found zooming out increases FPS by a tiny bit

Possibly placebo

[thick edge]

I’m not sure if this is vic3 only

But opening a tab like research sometimes works

[outer whale]

Is the man the guns dlc integrated

[thick edge]

Yes

[outer whale]

Ty

Didnt really notice as I had it lol

[primal tulip]

Is it just me or does the nanjing monument has a bugged name and description

[left portal]

ai training navy in mp make my game go boom boom

[thick edge]

Yeah it makes no rlly laggy

Any naval missions do it

[brittle venture]

they get better buffs, if you play together you shouldnt struggle

[vast shore]

well duh

you can no longer snack Shanxi and Xibei San Ma for free

[grim dust]

is hoi5 going to be about the cold war

genuienly i want a cold war sim by paradox to drop so i can properly work on my mod there

[twilit jolt]

IT'S DONE I AM FREE

[grim dust]

hoi4 isnt a good cold war simulator

[thick edge]

I hope

[faint parrot]

Would be coll

cool

[thick edge]

But hoi is combat focused

[faint parrot]

Ww1 would be alright too

[thick edge]

And Cold War was proxy wars, tech, and space mostly

[grim dust]

yeah

[thick edge]

Great War redux is great

[grim dust]

eh mods do that already

[floral arrow]

does anybody know how to naval invade UK as Germany in the new update?

[grim dust]

yeah hoi4 isnt a necessarily a good cold war sim

[wooden wyvern]

They never had plans to make manchukuo into a chinese puppet
In kaiserreich it works because fengtian has more claim to legitimacy but japan's "guy in china" was the east hebei autonomy which evolved and rebranded multiple times to gain legitimacy until wang jiwei defected and allowed a consolidation into the rgc, but the plans for manchukuo were always to settle the land with japanese or use it as a tool to claim siberia /outer manchuria
The one thing common between all the rival governments was that they hated the qing. Theres no way manchukuo would ever be a viable option for japan as a rival chinese government

[dim jetty]

wtf they did to doctrines? 💀

[wispy peak]

It looks really complex and insane but its actually really simple

Grand doctrine is the base 4 standard doctrines and your tracks allow you to personalise a section of your army with buffs you want

[dim jetty]

idk but for me old doctrines especially 2nd one is goated

[wispy peak]

You still get unqiue buffs from the tracks when you max one

So superior firepower grand doctrine will still give you unique buffs and officer corp options

[dim jetty]

well 50/50

its like should i revert to 1.16 or stay on 1.17

[potent bane]

How do I expand my navy into the red zones? do I have to construct a naval HQ or Supply Base near the regions?

[wispy peak]

Honestly its your choice, I personally like the new Doctrine system as it lets me have a greater say in how my army shapes

[wispy peak]

Naval Supply hubs will extend your range, you need to find which port is your home port (Currently listed as Yokohama under the admiral). Your navy draws range from THAT SPECIFIC base

If a naval supply hub is within range then the fleet can also draw range from that extending the total range

Basically like a fuel station

[potent bane]

im currently building up a naval base in vietnam to lvl 8 so I can build the resuply station there, Im hoping that increases my range down south

[wispy peak]

Alternatively you can try to sieze malaya/singapore and build there

• If you take them you have a naval base you can assign as the home base in the middle of that strategic zone

[potent bane]

I realised building a HQ in taiwan gave me enough range for indonesia

now to try and reach australia...

[wispy peak]

Thatll be a tough one

You can reassign the home base remember

So if you take a base in Indonesia

You can assign that naval base as the "home base" if it gets you to aussie land

[potent bane]

Java is already a lvl 10 port

https://tenor.com/view/knight-thirst-trap-loop-gif-7754689023806368873

yeah setting my home base in Java gave me all the range I need for australia

[wispy peak]

Yeah remember that the little gear symbol next to the home base tells the game to auto change the home base to whatever is the most suitable for the sea zones

[potent bane]

I see

cant believe the navy is fun, almost makes me want to put effort in making ships

[wispy peak]

I love navy LARP

A couple of good QOL mods are stuff like "10 dockyards for capital ships" that means you can build carriers and such a bit easier

[potent bane]

my main problem is that it takes forever to make ships

usually I just steal navies and inshallah but playing hist. japan? the base fleet is doing fine

granted its 1943 and im NOT at war with the US

its joever australia bros

[astral cedar]

Does AI navy actually fight? Was seeing that it does not as of a day or two ago, but idk if that was glitch or was patched?

[potent bane]

I haven't encountered any enemy fleets yet

which is crazy

[wispy peak]

So previously the AI would often just strike force COUGH USA COUGH

Now they HAVE to patrol a sea zone to contest you which means they will actively fight more

And yeah Axtive the British AI kinda just

Abandons its asian colonies the Navy almost never goes there lol

[potent bane]

yeah I was wondering where tf the indian army went

turns out they were all fighting in eastern persia

[astral cedar]

Okay, so yay or nay, seem not to know

[wispy peak]

They will fight you

If a patrol fleet finds you its highly likely a strike force will attempt to engage you

Assuming its not repairing

Even before the updat the Japanese navy was the biggest dopamine cause they WOULD fight you 100%

[astral cedar]

Okay thanks. I’ve gotta test it. I wonder if the Germans are better with their subs. Have always felt their use of unrestricted warfare was totally non existent

[wispy peak]

Im kinda glad because unfortunately paradox doesnt really know how to balance subs so they can be BRUTALLY overpowered, gotterdammarung allowing people to get anechoic tiles like 4 years before they were made resulted in them being insane

[astral cedar]

Yeah but would love to actually play the battle of the Atlantic from Ally side

[craggy minnow]

Added an 'immobile' cohesion setting, which turns off all automatic relocation for units attached to a battleplan. Planning speed is halved while using this setting

they add a thing to replace empty field marshal front lines (*technically *an exploit)
nerf it instantly with -50%
nobody will use it
be paradox

[potent bane]

thanks mengkukuo?

good to see this buff still exists

[dense gale]

everyone will use it

mp players

u can mod the value back in im pretty sure

[craggy minnow]

i mean if we take mods, do any paradox changes matter

its true, yes

but i meant it about vanilla/sp

[twilit jolt]

I was wondering why the decisions weren't showing up and I found this

[faint parrot]

whats the best japan strat

[potent bane]

make an offering at a shinto shrine and pray

[plucky crag]

Japan is powerful in every path. Communist one makes you core most of asia, non aligned path makes you gain a lot cores too and the fascist path is the classic

[potent bane]

this is what I managed to do with fascist japan

its 1948 😭

[lofty chasm]

did artillery get buffed with the new army doctrines?

[brittle venture]

technically

doesnt add any breakthrough

[lofty chasm]

i saw the one where it does -0.8 width

[brittle venture]

they nerfed base stats but the cost is lower

its not great still

its better tho

[lofty chasm]

wait they did?

[brittle venture]

actually i lied

stat base isnt changed i think?

it is cheaper

and most buffs come from doctrine not tech

but like

no hp, no armor

little breakthrough

its decent early game but tanks also got buffed

TDs and SPGs are 20% cheaper

[lofty chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-sorprendido-shaquille-oneal-gif-23222312

[drifting star]

Prolly my best HOI4 game ever

[languid imp]

how can align menjiang to japan??

they joint the united front uwu

[hollow coral]

take the focus to establish the mongol military government

[woeful oasis]

Any particular reason why the Philippines only have generic models for infantry equipment instead of more accurate US equipment or WWI surplus?

[whole veldt]

Why does that look like Tno

[hushed lion]

Nah that doesnt like the tno map

[languid imp]

how is your fleet composition right now guys?? patrols fleet needs to be CL/DD or something more heavier like CAs??

[polar jasper]

As the US, I had my patrol groups as an escort carrier, a spotting heavy cruiser to be a capital screening the carrier, and a bunch of destroyers

Like 9

Repeat 9 more times

Very overkill

[untold frost]

understands navy🥀 🙏

[polar jasper]

But it wipes everything

The main strike force deals with heavier stuff

[tawdry condor]

Non aligned japan industrial boosts should be stronger

[stable tusk]

Pfp checks out

[pastel zinc]

i think the millenium dawn dev likes romania

[languid imp]

how can I reach 95% war support with japan to launch pearl harbor?? I can't get over 60%

[brittle venture]

dont be at war?

also decisions

[marble inlet]

is it worth building any civs as japan or full mils? also worth doing inteligence updates?

[hollow coral]

generally build up civs at the beginning and just go full mil building

[hollow coral]

Theres a focus in historical which gives weekly war support from bombings or smthn

[brave oracle]

bro why is chiang getting killed

is there a way to not have that happen

[subtle spear]

PDX Bug spotted

[raven veldt]

You would think that after 4 years of almost everyone in MP using 4 secondary cannon heavy TDs, that the devs would notice and do anything to make historical tanks more viable....

[zealous cove]

short answer: the country just prefers to use American models

also as you can tell by playing the game. we do not have a lot of steel & majority of it is black sand which is not conducive in a large scale due to high energy cost. It is at worst a debt trap and at best a artisanal piece set

couple that with low quality coal despite it's average deposits & near proximity to countries who do have better quality - you end up with an economy whose extremely reliant on imports - just like you see in game.

[hollow coral]

i dont think you get the question

[zealous cove]

i don't think I got the question

probably 'cause there's the other paths

[hollow coral]

yeah they were asking why philippines infantry equipment uses names like "equipment 1" instead of something like springfield rifle

[zealous cove]

i don't know how code works but it would end up with
Fascists - Japanese Models
Democratic - American Models
Unaligned - Spanish Models
Communist - ????

so ig they just don't want to bother

[hollow coral]

its basically just the name of the equipment

but philippines just feels the most rushed

the biggest tree is the industry tree of all things

the paths are very railroaded

and they all end in the same result

not to mention only 2 - 3 filipino generals

[zealous cove]

and a lot of the things in the Industry Tree I feel like don't really help in accomplishing whatever your goal is when you choose the path that you do

you complete the industry tree and you still only have 1 mil unless you noticed it after reading every description.

choosing the US' side makes you focus on being a Bunker Hell while playing for Japan makes you roleplay as Italy w/ Indonesia being your North Africa

[hollow coral]

it feels like playing mexico

[zealous cove]

Yes

I feel like playing Philippines in MP would just have you end up being the Marines guy

[hollow coral]

wouldve much preferred the budget they put into philippines be used to enhance china

[zealous cove]

i agree

[tawdry condor]

Are artillery worth it now?

They seem broken

[zealous cove]

it's ok

[steel zephyr]

There are still kinda garbage

But they are more playable than before

[crimson tartan]

🤖

playing GRAND STRATEGY game
complaining about game being to complicated

bro wtf is this steam reviews

[vast shore]

He got the faction rework thing right

[vast shore]

Theres a difference between complicated because the gsme is complex and complicated because its messy

[crimson tartan]

oh alr what's messy about factions

[vast shore]

The UI and their use is not very intuitive

[marble inlet]

can i not see the air zones clearly anymoire?

or it is a different mapmode

[craggy minnow]

exit to main menu

and join back, itll be fixed

[quasi harbor]

Thats an old bug

Just reload the save

[spring bluff]

Hello me and my friend cant play together because our version is not same

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[coral drift]

Uh, one of the games are modded

Mods usually changed the checksum, even if both games has the same vanilla versions

[spring bluff]

Thank you so much

[slate hull]

I think he's got a skill issue

[autumn breach]

paradox try not to release abysmal dogshit challenge: impossible

english reviews are actually mostly negative lol

[wispy peak]

Its mainly the price thats getting them the flak

£25 for this is absolutely egregious

[autumn breach]

paying money for a country i already paid for back in 2019 is pretty bad too

and there is a LOT of reviews that shit on the new features

[wispy peak]

Sadly its pretty imbalanced

Philippines being able to just "Im spain now" is insane

[fading walrus]

Coal is a horrible feature

[wispy peak]

Coal is something that was un-needed

[fading walrus]

The faction system was a good idea but poorly implemented

[wispy peak]

If they want people to demobilize make civ economy not abysmal

[autumn breach]

the dlc is literally coal XD

[wispy peak]

Why does Civ economy REDUCE civ construction speed

[fading walrus]

Nah its garbage coal has usage irl

[wispy peak]

If civ economy would give stability and stuff at the cost of less mil construction and fuel it would be so much better

Italy also has like 5 coal which for a major is just death

[autumn breach]

true from what ive seen it looks like abysmall dogshit

[fading walrus]

At least I have 100 other games

Like my modded Byzantine medieval 2 campaign

[autumn breach]

whichever paradox dev is thinking up these ideas needs to get their fingers out their ass lol

[wispy peak]

We dont want black ICE

[fading walrus]

Head*

[wispy peak]

I tried that mod and omg it was taxing to play

And whoever decided to make navy even more complex like cmon

Now people have to worry about home bases, naval supply hubs, naval hqs

I luckily understand navy so its fine for me but for those who find it confusing rip

[autumn breach]

like is the team that actually made hoi4 in the first place even still developing the game any more?
these new devs are honestly not living up to how the game used to be

[fading walrus]

Anyways I reconquered Rome and all of southern Italy bar Pugila in my Byzantine campaign

Bari is holding out

[wispy peak]

I seriously doubt it the game is getting more and more unpolished, bugs everywhere, poor implementation

[fading walrus]

And I gotta take Sicilian controlled Sardinia

[wispy peak]

I mean when modding I found something hilarious in the Australian tree

The "deal with Japan" focus where they hand over indonesia to japan for an alliance doesnt even check if they own it

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-general-grievous-time-to-abandon-ship-leaving-time-to-leave-gif-22874851

[wispy peak]

You could just own Indonesia and suddenly boom its Japan

Australia just hands over territory it doesn't own

I am glad I didnt buy the expansion pass

[autumn breach]

lol me too

[wispy peak]

They really need to stop handing out a billion claims and cores it was a gripe I had with Germany

[fading walrus]

It think I’m done with hoi4 and fall back to eu4

[autumn breach]

im never paying full price for this bullshit
and ngl whoever already did is kinda idiotic after the track record of grave of empires and stuff

[wispy peak]

Like 1 focus and Germany got what like 12 war goals?!?! And claimed like all of Europe + Asia

[fading walrus]

Thoughts on my modded Byzantine campaign

For medival 2

[wispy peak]

Sadly know nothing of that so cant comment

[wispy peak]

It makes me really nervous for the UK, France and US rework

The Allies are a JOKE now

Germany alone can just solo everyone

[fading walrus]

I reconquered Anatolia

Back to pre 1071 borders

Unfortunately my unit roster is going to fall of hard late game

I only get 2 gun powder units (Byzantine hand gunners) and a tiny cannon

[autumn breach]

it is a huge middle finger to the players that bought la resistance and man the guns, yet again making players pay AGAIN for countries they already paid for is such scummy practice, honestly all paradox staff can get a middle finger back from me if they think this is ok

i dont get how people arent in uproar about this

[fading walrus]

Probably Creative assembly showing the decline in quality of the Byzantine armed forces through gameplay

The moors also fall off too late game

[wispy socket]

I didn't either but I do feel NCNS was better than GOE

I wish the naval mechanics were part of the DLC and the faction mechanics part of the game - then I probably would not have bought it. But I suppose that is part of the calculations

[wispy peak]

GOE tbf lowered the bar so hard it was a tripping hazard in hell

So not hard to clear that

[wispy socket]

True... I'd say this is better than GOE and TOA and perhaps AAT too though.

[wispy peak]

Its good enough I am not under FULL regret buying it but

I hate how every patch they keep indirectly nerfing the allies

Now the US is in its own faction meaning the Allies are even easier to smack down

[wispy socket]

Also - I do think we need a rework of the focus trees for all nations now. I keep getting doctrine bonuses which I'm not sure are useful beyond 1940 (there's only five times I ever use army XP in the doctrines tab now)

[wispy socket]

Oh god, I thought they would just join the Allies when Japan attacked - they don't? The American Commonwealth stays?

[wispy peak]

Oh Germany can just kill them, I have yet to see the US join the Allies

Rn the game is so axis favoured Germany 9/10 times just soloes the whole of Europe

[wispy socket]

As someone else said, its just what happens when the last three expansions have been focused on the Axis powers (Italy, Germany and now Japan). I'm hopeful a rework of an Allied power will balance the scales again 🙏

[wispy peak]

I also hope paratroopers FINALLY get nerfed

Paradox has a fundemental misunderstanding of the role of Paratroopers

The are LIGHT infantry designed to hold for limited time until relieved

You cannot just drop them into Dover

[wispy socket]

I have like 1500+ hours in the game and I have used paratroopers exactly ONCE.

[wispy peak]

They are OP and completely invalidate the naval system

Why build an expensive navy when you can build planes and paradrop? Planes also help you in the ground war

Paras cannot drop with heavy equipment, they can get limited MGs and light fire support like mortars and special made artillery

And urban drops for paratroopers were DISASTROUS

The Fallschirmjagers that dropped Rotterdam got absolutely MAULED

[wispy socket]

Is it the case that no matter the amount of manpower in a division, you can paradrop them, ie, is the limit only on the number of divisions paradropping, not on the size of the division itself?

[wispy peak]

Provided the game registers that divison as paradrop capable

Doesnt matter how big it can be dropped

Paratroopers in the special forces tree getting light tanks was horrifically busted

[wispy socket]

[thick edge]

@pseudo wing sorry for the long but when will the Challenges return

[pseudo wing]

Our NCNS campaign was jam packed ful of a lot of stuff so I had to postpone them, I can't give the ETA on it just yet but I am trying to get them back up and going

[fresh cedar]

GDR super buffed the allies lol

This DLC just seems to have made the allies less aggressive. Not necessarily weaker

[wispy peak]

Really? Allies in my game crumple like wet tissue paper lol

[fresh cedar]

In my games they’ve been eating Germany like every game

Though the pacific was seems mostly ignored by them and the US in particular

[wispy peak]

How unusual, for me Germany does like a 1v5 and absolutely stomps while the UK just sits on the home islands lol

Britain straight up ignores the pacific war like 100%

[fresh cedar]

USA basically does too

[wispy peak]

Even as a Japan only at war with them they just seem to not care

Nah the US has at least fought me but its like to the British AI Asia just isnt a thing lol

[fresh cedar]

Tbh UK should patrol around Raj and Australia. US around pacific islands

I like all the ground combat so far. And the idea of theaters of war. Just hope the AI and the allies in particular get looked at

Mostly with naval for me

I genuinely just haven’t seen Germany perform well on historical

[wispy peak]

How weird for me its the completely opposite, allies eat rocks and germany just goes uber mode rolling everyone

Except communist Germany

They just fold

I love the new doctrines tbh I really like having a personal touch over how my army evolves

Means you can do so many builds, navy I think needs a range enhancement done rn the home base system is good but a little too restrictive for my liking

[coral drift]

Does Siam received a portrait of Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram for free, or it is NCNS-locked?

[thick edge]

Thx

[fresh cedar]

I’m surprised Korea didn’t get portraits tbh

[gritty fjord]

Are people having issue with naval supply now or am I supposed to have much smaller fleets operating out of more ports

even with level 8 ports my fleet doesnt have enough supply

[hoary siren]

Always been that way

[gritty fjord]

with the previous system did your fleet still operate out of just one port? I thought what happened is that the different task force drew from whataver the closest port was, meanin gthat all the tasks forces in one fleet didnt neccesarily use the same port

I guess this means I just need to make more fleets, although I dont really know what low supply even does for a fleet

I wish the USA had more admirals

[hoary siren]

I only ever use one fleet for surface navy

[gritty fjord]

but then you have no supply?

[tawdry condor]

best combat width?

[hoary siren]

Depends

[broken horizon]

hold on they can now create normal puppets(the ones with cores) while at war????

[formal ginkgo]

Why does the new update remind me of black ice?

[tawdry condor]

on what

[hoary siren]

Terrain types? defense build? Offensive build?

[thick edge]

Because coal

And the trade menu

But that’s all

[formal ginkgo]

yeah thats about it

i havnt even gotten the new dlc yet

all i know is that my navy game is going to be screwed over until i can get used to the new systems

[thick edge]

Meh it’s not hard

[formal ginkgo]

did they change the russian research icons?

Basic heavy ship is the Nelson class battleship

[stable tusk]

Monarchist/Democratic Germany: yes
Historical Germany: No

[tawdry condor]

offensive

[hoary siren]

DLC or no dlc

[tawdry condor]

dlc

[hoary siren]

Tanks at 36 width then. Can check the pinned section of #ask-for-help-here to see templates and designs

[broken horizon]

damm i though the new dlc made a bug cuz this first time seeing this and mostly play iron mode only

[hollow coral]

no skeleton content for siam

A shame because i hoped atleast phibun would be the fascist leader of siam

[haughty tapir]

OK, monarchist Philippines is pretty cool. Seems like you can annex + core most of Latin America and South America o.O

[hushed lion]

I honestly find most of the cliques more interesting than the Philippines but maybe that monarchist path might be worth the try

[last pasture]

they ruined what i enjoyed the most: having dogshit range while in home port and the ability to move between pots and keeping my range

the enshitification of hoi is here

[fading walrus]

That started earlier this year with GOE

[hoary siren]

Just automate your home base and it’s like normal

Navy really hasn’t changed too drastically

[last pasture]

huh

[fresh cedar]

You can have its home base automatically get set

So if you assign sea zones, they use the nearest home base

It’s near the top of the screen when selecting a fleet, like a cog wheel

[last pasture]

o

[fresh cedar]

Dude watches too much Sejo 😂

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-dr-who-abzorbaloff-peter-kay-love-and-monsters-gif-20409214

Sejo on his way to call anything slop yet still rely on it for money

[last pasture]

no i was pissed because i had no range and constantly having to move the fleet and split it up to cover all of the pacific

[fresh cedar]

Annoying to micro but yeah try the auto-port feature

[brittle venture]

naval range and carriers have

[fresh cedar]

Tbh in practice haven’t noticed much with carriers. Ik they technically occupy air zones and stuff differently but in combat seems similar

[brittle venture]

also

[fresh cedar]

(Apart from naval invasions ofc)

[brittle venture]

fuel usage for navy is wayyy higher

now you need to patrol and strike force costs fuel too

[fresh cedar]

Haven’t played a country impacted by it much yet ig

[fresh cedar]

Why would it if they’re not out to sea?

Didn’t know anchoring burns much fuel 😭

[hoary siren]

Carriers themselves haven’t changed, the type of plane you put on them has

[fresh cedar]

Apart from escort carriers and sub carriers

[meager dragon]

ngl the new faction system should be base game
it just creates unnecessary bloat for devs to maintain the old faction system next to the new one, and on top of that it would just be... a nice thing to do? like the Special Projects mechanic in GOT being base game but the actual projects being dlc-locked

[fresh cedar]

Agreed. Have allies, axis and cominterm base too. But every other faction dlc

[meager dragon]

I personally think all factions can be dlc if we get the mechanic in the base game, this is more of a "please follow the standard GOT established" thing

it makes life easier for both devs and modders and costs virtually nothing to Paradox

[fresh cedar]

If anything would probably drive more sales

[meager dragon]

since the actual factions are dlc-locked, they're not really going to lose out on sales anyway