latest-updates

[hushed lion]

we need a 1949 start date so that you can start a game and do absolutely nothing cause most of the focus trees were already finished 2 years prior

[wooden wyvern]

in what way

it has always been centered around 1936 start date and early years of ww2, with althist formables being thrown in

[hushed lion]

you know, like the gradually larger focus trees and the very late game special projects for example

[wooden wyvern]

i mean in the thematic sense

[hushed lion]

of course yes, that is the core of the game either way

[wooden wyvern]

those things help to go more in depth to the time period and conflict itself

but it has never gone from being a ww2 game to being a 20th century game

[hushed lion]

even just having a short post war tree would be satisfactory

[wooden wyvern]

and ultimately the game's systems were designed around the warfare and fighting
any actual management, economic, and diplomatic aspects are heavily stunted in comparison to other civilization / grand strategy games

i find it difficult to imagine any sort of interesting post war content without a redoing of the fundamental aspects of the game itself

not to mention theres the issue of even if you do a historical game chances are the peace treaties and borders wont be historical anyways because of the ai

[hushed lion]

proxy conflicts, those tend to happen in historical games anyways ,for example the various colonies that break away post war

[hushed lion]

i do wish hoi4 would add a scripted peace deal feture for historical

[mellow laurel]

pretty much this. And even then, it's not exactly the best. My life for the ability to use Command Power to control divisions belonging to your allies, or at least sharing of allied battle plans.

the number of times I have been surprised by Britain attempting DDay two years early and only got informed because the speech played is honestly ridiculous

[fresh cedar]

Like what?

[crimson tartan]

we need uuuh work on wiki

[solid gyro]

<@&846894118219022336>

[twilit jolt]

how could spy tf2 do this

[hollow idol]

Update reveal tonight?

[fresh cedar]

Tomorrow

[violet nexus]

Why don't they publish it on the steam page? Wouldn't it be more practical for everyone?

[knotty fossil]

Sorry for off-topic but, 1 mutual friend...

😅

[dull tundra]

https://youtube.com/shorts/P9rFeH-R5HI?si=tkM8y9ceOcIzOKfu

[hollow idol]

Linux lol

[dull tundra]

You guys are behind

This came out 21 minutes ago

2 new icons

[hollow idol]

How many beeps was it?

[knotty fossil]

Are you also a Gentoo user?

[dull tundra]

Yeah check twitter

[hollow idol]

Short and long beeps

[dull tundra]

Morse code?

[hollow coral]

They do

[hollow idol]

The monkey and the bird are Japan related

A old cartoon

[hollow coral]

Teaser before also showed a japanese building and japanese naval department so 100% japan

[hollow idol]

Momotaro:Sacred sailors

Thats a japan navy rework hint

[hollow coral]

Would a balance of power work for the army and navy rivalry

[hollow idol]

The bird could be either a philippines bird

Or a Japan pheasant

I cannot tell

[hollow coral]

Definitely pheasant

The national animal of japan

[sturdy sandal]

The bird is a Green Pheasant, Japan’s National Bird, a dead giveaway

[hollow coral]

Probably one of the most associated animals with japan

[hollow idol]

Motif

[dull tundra]

What about the two new ones

The samurai slashing the ship

[hollow coral]

Tricky one

[dull tundra]

And the people with the mountain

[hollow coral]

Samurai could be anyone

[sturdy sandal]

The samurai may be a reference to a propaganda poster

[hollow idol]

Siam

This is gonna be a siam tree

[hushed lion]

although even then it still is japanense so that much is certain

[hollow idol]

But motif is japanese stock exchange

[hollow coral]

Industry teaser for japan

[hollow idol]

The other emblem is Japan warfare division for land assults

[hollow coral]

The pheasant could be something about the royal family maybe?

[sturdy sandal]

I think we all can agree that what’s coming up next has something to do with Japan

[hollow idol]

Sameri is just straight up japan royalty before the capitalism era

What was term back then

For the era

Shogun?

[hollow coral]

Shogunate?

[hollow idol]

I cant remember

[sturdy sandal]

There’s the Shogunate and the Sengoku Jidai

[hollow idol]

But im assuming thats gonna be a big part of Japan royalty tree

A return of sameri

[polar jasper]

Samurai was nobility, not royalty

Somewhat

[polar jasper]

The shogunate was the government for the most part, though japan was quite fractured for the most part

[sturdy sandal]

Although a chunk of the Generals do have Samurai lineage. But the samurai from the poster and the focus icon are referring to Pearl Harbor

[polar jasper]

Sometimes it was semi united

[hollow idol]

The mountains probably are mountain division unlock or some shit

[hollow coral]

Mt fuji divisions

[hollow coral]

Thats a bit schizo

[hollow idol]

A royal tree would make so much sense in a Update with Japan

They got longest living royalty of any still around

[hollow coral]

The current one with the kodoha dont really make sense as the kodoha were pretty fascist

[hollow coral]

No but the samurai returning is like knights returning

[sturdy sandal]

True as there was more than just the Tokugawa

[hollow idol]

I mean if we were talking about fuedalism returning to Japan

Best way to do that

Would be historically the Sameri

But then that also would come off schizo

In the same way as putting a bear as king in Poland

[hollow coral]

Too unrealistic

[sturdy sandal]

Or resurrecting the HRE

[hollow coral]

Deindustrialising

[sturdy sandal]

Deindustrialization isn’t needed

[hollow idol]

This is base game

No mods

[hollow coral]

Whats different was these were easter eggs

[hollow idol]

So before you say "unrealistic"

[hollow coral]

Hre and wojtek

[fresh cedar]

Is that from Twitter?

[hollow coral]

They wont normally happen in a normal game unless you go out of the way to do these

[dull tundra]

Nope YouTube

[fresh cedar]

I love this and the polar bear because people can’t be complaining it’s unrealistic when these exist

[hollow idol]

Id assume sameri would be the same as this

Not something youd just get easily

By pushing left on tree

It would be requirements needed to be met

[hollow coral]

Didn’t they say they are moving towards more realistic paths?

[fresh cedar]

Yes

[hollow coral]

Like the eic already is very stupid

[fresh cedar]

Or rather less extreme alt history

[hollow coral]

Im fine with some little easter eggs

[fresh cedar]

They’ll probably still have 1 path per tree that’s goofy but not the majority

Like India was 80% cheesy

[hollow coral]

But can we stop saying the game can have unrealistic paths because wojtek can become king of poland

[hollow coral]

Empire of china or smthn

[hollow idol]

Amelia Earhart is also a EE you can do

But people forget that

And hitler in argentina

😂

"unrealistic" - 2 updates ago

Lol

[fresh cedar]

Amelia Earhart is kinda believable. Like if she wasn’t lost was possible

[hollow coral]

Hitler as leader of argentina is fully meme though

[fresh cedar]

The Fourth Reich path is so fun though

Idk how they made India so unfun tbh

[hollow coral]

Played it once for the achievement

[sturdy sandal]

Even then I’ve never seen the Easter eggs in historical barring any glitches or mod tomfoolery

[fresh cedar]

Did you play once it got focuses?

[hushed lion]

except for the coloured icons?

[fresh cedar]

Like specific 4th Reich focuses

[hollow coral]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

I have, I think now if you do something ahistorical as a major the others start branching off too

[hollow idol]

The bear is base game

Its on wiki

Bros mad at color icons

[hushed lion]

i know that, i have the achievment

[hollow idol]

2025 and freaking out at rgb

[fresh cedar]

Is the kingdom of Slavic one base game or is it like the general one base

[hollow coral]

Actually the most recent easter egg was nuclear gandhi which is a lot more hidden and obscure so

[sturdy sandal]

True, they do

[hushed lion]

this has to be ragebait, i literally just took note of a mod that was indeed present

[fresh cedar]

I’m fine with obscure ones tbh

[sturdy sandal]

I love the nuclear Gandhi Easter Egg, it’s from the civ series

[fresh cedar]

Wasn’t the nuclear Gandhi thing in civ just a hoax anyways

[hushed lion]

as far as i know yes

[hollow coral]

You have to do a “viceroy bodyguard” focus, place a cavalry division in dehli and go independant so yes these types of easter egg meme paths are fine but not something like eic

[fresh cedar]

What a shame 🙁

[hollow idol]

Theres also a hidden translyvania country tree

[sturdy sandal]

It’s real, it’s from a glitch actually, due to Gandhi being the least aggressive leader back in civ 1 and upon him adopting democracy his aggression integer loops back around to being the most aggressive

[hollow idol]

That is only able to be done with cheats as far as I know

[fresh cedar]

Yeah EIC was nasty. Like they did Anarchism really well imo and it fits the game. But EIC and the elephant path seem gross

[hollow idol]

I have yet to see a video without cheats

Of someone getting Translyvania tree

[hollow coral]

Honestly hitler in argentina is too easy to get that you can definitely get him accidentally without even going for it

[fresh cedar]

What’s funny too is that Mao’s picture is supposed to change once you form the PRC. Like he has a diff pic in files but it never applies

[fresh cedar]

Hardest one gotta be the Byzantine Hitler

[hollow coral]

I hope they keep the current mao portrait

[hollow coral]

Ive seen like one video on that

[sturdy sandal]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Gandhi

[fresh cedar]

Same it’s a good portrait

The new Chang Kai Shek one is way better though

[hollow coral]

Im using the r56 portrait for him rn

[hollow idol]

Requirements for adapted from focus tree on Transylvania:

Romania to give release them,then:

Austria completes the "The Danubian Federation" or "Demand Hungarian Submission" focus.

Hungary completes "The Lands of the Crown of Saint Stephen" or the "A Danubian Federation" focus, while Transylvania is a vassal.

Then tree appears out if thin air

Chances of this happening is near 0.

[fresh cedar]

Is this a new or old tree?

[hollow idol]

Since romania will not just give out a release of Translyvania

[fresh cedar]

Like GDR or Death or Dishonor

[hollow idol]

This is a dlc egg.

[fresh cedar]

Which though

[hollow idol]

The only legit way of this happening though is if you played as soviets, released them after beating romania,and also the historical path didnt happen and the 2 neibors did their required trees

[mortal pike]

historical accurate idk what you speaking about and it's only possible if you go althis

[hollow idol]

I cant see a non cheat path of it happening outside of just playing multiplayer ig

[fresh cedar]

Is this new or old? Never heard of it

[hollow idol]

Older dlc

Death or Dishonor

[fresh cedar]

Is the tree any good?

Figured

[hollow idol]

No lol

It adds like

10 things

Its just really a mess around thing

[fresh cedar]

Tbh all the trees from that dlc were pretty bad

[mortal pike]

you know what will be peak for Japan? civil war where you can give power to Anime girl

no longer mods need for anime hirohito

[mortal pike]

last dev corner? so DLC October/November

[fresh cedar]

Tbh I wish they’d just post those on here

[hollow idol]

This is trans

[fresh cedar]

Hot take, SSJ4 looks sorta chopped

[fresh cedar]

Kinda big

[hollow coral]

All i see is the austro hungarian shared tree

So is this the transylvania tree you were talking about?

[hollow idol]

Yes its hidden

As a player outside of multiplayer or cheating

Its near impossible

To get in a real game

[hollow coral]

Too niche

[hollow idol]

I find it neat though

EE of EE

[cosmic falcon]

Ok

[hollow coral]

Graveyard of empires can definitely still be fixed though i cant lie especially iran

Its probably the most bland tree out of the four of them

[hollow idol]

Honestly a free rework of entire middle east be nice

Or a FULL middle east

Including like palastine mandate and yemen and stuff

[hollow coral]

Paradox and free??

[hollow idol]

Lol

I know

Poland

[hollow coral]

Wasnt that like 2016

[fresh cedar]

Really hope they start doing entire regions rather than like 1/3 of regions

[hollow coral]

How far can the definition of region stretch though

[hollow idol]

@hollow coral not just doing mao china and KMT china

Theres like 8 war lord regions and tibet, no trees

[hollow coral]

Like goe was obviously centred around afghanistan so its logical to add india and iran as they border it and why not add iraq as it was a minor player

[fresh cedar]

Many people were mad with TOA and GOE because they only did a partial region. The devs even admitted on the forum after the backlash to GOE that they’d consider larger DLC’s

[hollow coral]

Honestly the amount of countries in them are pretty fair

I mean brazil, argentina and chile got pretty stacked trees

[drifting star]

Are me getting samurai

[fresh cedar]

They said they’d either do more countries in future countries packs or also include features

[drifting star]

Let’s gooooooo

[hollow coral]

And even uruguay and paraguay got decent amounts of content

[drifting star]

We need a web focus

*weeb

Just a leader who is a dat anime nerd

[hollow coral]

I dont think the samurai icons derectly mean samurai are getting added

[fresh cedar]

Only appears after you’ve been nuked and turned democratic

[drifting star]

I like it

[fresh cedar]

What’s with the sailor monkey

Bloons reference?

[hollow coral]

Samurai were used in japanese propaganda to promote them as warriors to inspire the soldiers

[drifting star]

It’s a propaganda movie

[hollow coral]

Is the three dragon heads a reference to dragon ball???

[drifting star]

Gunna guss that the samurai one is about navy bonuses

[fresh cedar]

Anyone know what the top left building is?

[hollow coral]

Stock exchange building

[fresh cedar]

Oh like Tokyo stock exchange cool

Tomorrow should really be Japan then

[hollow coral]

Whats funny is searched it up the day the teaser dropped and there were less results then when i searched it up just now

[fresh cedar]

What do you guys think Japan’s Monument building will be?

Like the 3d one

[hollow coral]

I assume its an inudsutry related focus

[fresh cedar]

Tbh I think countries should get multiple

Like White House should exist too

[fresh cedar]

Probably some great depression one

Idk

[hollow coral]

Maybe osaka castle?

[fresh cedar]

Feel like Japan could have 3-4

IMO most countries should have a few, they just buff diff things

[hollow coral]

Honestly there arent really any notable japanese landmarks other the. Mt fiji

I cant name many off the top of my head

[fresh cedar]

Not that I could name the Austrian and Iranian ones off the top of my head

Yet they made it

I was surprised they didn’t do the White House tbh

[hollow coral]

The statue of liberty is more culturally significant

[fresh cedar]

That’s why I’m saying they should have a few

[hollow coral]

But the kremlin instead of the basilica for russia is a missed opportunity

[fresh cedar]

Also I don’t think they can actually shift buffs to other core owners? Like Hagia Sofia doesn’t buff Greece

[fresh cedar]

Yo agreed

Realistically China will have the imperial palace now

[hollow coral]

The forbidden city?

Oh yeah definitely

[fresh cedar]

Mhm

If they do anything else I’ll lose it

[hollow coral]

The great wall where its just level 10 forts across the border

Most significant landmarks in china are in beijing so the forbidden city would be enough

[fresh cedar]

Only problem is would Manchuria be able to get the buffs from it? As far as I know, landmarks only buff the country that starts with them

Would be so dumb if the forbidden city didn’t buff the Qing

(Just as the Hagia Sofia doesn’t buff Byzantium currently)

[hollow coral]

Manchukuo is an artificial state so there can be an argument for an against it

[fresh cedar]

Would mean that anyone but KMT wouldn’t get its buff though

Including warlords that unite or even the PRC

Landmarks need to be able to shift to new core owners

[hollow coral]

I would say that only prc kmt and manchukuo should gets its buffs

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[fresh cedar]

Here’s a clearer version

[mortal pike]

i wish with next DLC for US we will get spy rework where you can send spy mission to kill advisors/generals, like historically french and polish underground state were doing a lot successful killing high tier command of III Reich

[thick edge]

Imagine that in multiplayer 💀

[drifting star]

There would be no advisors left

This dlc looks so peak

Wonder what the name is gunna be

[long ibex]

It sounds HoI5 (with commanders and all characters in general located in map)

[mortal pike]

most MP i played banned spy action anyway so i'm talking mostly about fun sandbox for singleplayer
also we have custom rules before game start what is a problem to add more limitation to some actions

like US was the biggest thing during World War II, Germany got great DLC and now US needs dlc to be even better so from me it should be more Spy, more subject(democratic influence like choosing focus tree paths or what puppet should produce like you could force ur Australian puppet as UK to focus mostly on doing destroyers to escort convoys etc) also Free France and France overall tree are joke and i wish we could borrow some from mods where Free France is peak content gameplay

[thick edge]

Goofy ahh rules for mp

But yeah US does need a dlc

Which is most likely after this one

And if not it will be a south east Asia maybe

[mortal pike]

US doesnt need DLC yeah, because for like 6 years you can use exploit to make US uselles lmao on historical

[cosmic stag]

i hope when hoi5 comes out PDX adds more REAL LIFE units and templates

[thick edge]

That’s only a small debuff

Besides if it’s actual mp the player should be fine

[mortal pike]

having isolation entire game and cant leave great depression is small debuff for u? xD

[thick edge]

I mean u can remove in 1936 I think

Besides u can bypass it

The player can do counter intelligence

Get more democracy support

[mortal pike]

yeah and you just proved my point that US is bad designed country compared to reworked Germany, btw all AXIS MAYORS got rework that is 9/10 and Japan will be another one meanwhile US, UK and France are "xDDD" lvl of content

US as being biggest powerhouse in this game has the least content, less content than freaking Afganistan right now

Chile, Argentina has more COntent than US UK and France/Free France, you cant make this up.

[muted fjord]

i wonder what the bird and the monkey means

[fresh cedar]

Nah UK and France are alright imo. Better than Germany was and better than the US. But still need a rework like NSB and beyond countries

[sharp spade]

I want to see more of the faction rework

I know the new dlc is gonna make it hell to fight in China

[mortal pike]

they are not, half of ur tech tree is blocked behind being democratic lmao you cant get nukes as UK without being in faction with US, same for France most tech uselles because of how bad is tree designed

old opposite adolf was better democratic tree than UK, US and France

[crimson tartan]

monkey division vs bird division

[livid mist]

That Sounds awful imo

I wanna be able to Control individuals divisions within highly urbanized tiles

[fresh cedar]

You can get nukes as any of their trees lol

And democratic is probably the weakest

After commie

[mortal pike]

as UK you cant, you need be democratic with US in Faction to get research speed buffs

[fresh cedar]

You literally just build the special project facilities and can get it

[mortal pike]

you missed a point where i said that half of research bonuses is locked in your tree just bcs of how bad tree is made, yeah i know you can hard tech and rush nukes as any mayor nation now but the point is that 3 BIG ALIES TREE are terrible compared to new content Germany, Italy, Soviet, Afganistan or even Philipines lmao

[fresh cedar]

“can’t get Nukes as UK without being in a faction with US” Apparently you missed your own point. 💀

Can’t means can not ever.

[mortal pike]

yeah you cant get research bonuses and 75 breakthrough

[fresh cedar]

Allies probably will be expansion after this expansion pack lets be honest

I could see the US getting some focuses but not a full rework

But France and UK definitely wont be this expansion

[mortal pike]

i just proved it by blocking AI US from getting nukes, they will never get their research speed and manhantan project thats how bad designed is US tree and AI

[fresh cedar]

Logically the US should get a full rework alongside Japan. With France and UK getting content

But strongly doubt it’ll happen, this is paradox we’re talking about lol

US will probably get like 6 focuses

And some reworks

[mortal pike]

and people should review bombing harder than they did for Graveyard of Empires if this happen

[fresh cedar]

I think the US should also get a propaganda system similar to USSR. But at the very least coal update will super buff the USA

[thick edge]

And that’s why u don’t do it

To have a fun game instead of cheesing that much

[mortal pike]

you do it because it's painful to do some stupid achievements, it's must have when you play bad country for first time or in South America, i dont do it as Japan because i know how to beat US as Japan in 1940 capitulation

[thick edge]

It’s not that hard 😭

I capped them as literal El Salvador in 1940

[mortal pike]

yeah but i want slow gameplay

[signal cargo]

Will this new dlc only be 4 nations?

[harsh hull]

We'll know when they announce it

[jaunty pawn]

Japan, KMT, PCC, Mandchoukouo ?

[signal cargo]

They have confirmed nationalist china, communist china, japan, and Philippines

Warlords and Manchuria will get changes but not focus trees

[jaunty pawn]

Philippines ?

[signal cargo]

Yeahh, always the possibility of a surprise one too like with aussa and iceland

[jaunty pawn]

Didn't know that

[signal cargo]

Yeahh they showed us a lot of the Philippines tree

[jaunty pawn]

I will see ty

[signal cargo]

Mhmm

So many nations that it would be cool to have focus trees for in the regionn

Every nation in china, tibet, mongolia, tuva, siam, indonesia, malaysia, burma, bhutan, nepal, maybe an indochina

[jaunty pawn]

Philippines looks good

I'm hyped for Japan

[jaunty pawn]

Do you know what changes exactly because it feel odd to not give a another focus tree for Puyi :/

[fresh cedar]

So they said Warlords wouldn’t get full new trees but haven’t really talked about Manchuria yet

I’d assume MAN, PRC and KMT are getting full reworks

[jaunty pawn]

It's what I think too

And warlords minor changes and they can take the lead of China so no worries

[fresh cedar]

Think it would be cool if each of the warlords varied just a little bit

Like maybe one is good with horses, one good with infantry, tanks etc

[jaunty pawn]

Yes of course ahah

[fresh cedar]

Or like one is good with military, one with industry

Will be sad if they’re all identical

[onyx hull]

They’re probably gonna be identical again

But we can hope that there’s some differences

[thick edge]

Xibei San ma tanks only 🔥

[fossil torrent]

I think Sikiang should get some attention too considering that the Soviet Union has a focus on”the gobi gambit” and their tree to become the PRC feels weird

[signal cargo]

Warlords they said they will edit their current trees to more modernize it and fit the new dlc, i have no idea what they have planned for manchukuo

[signal cargo]

Mhmm

What if every warlord had a single short unique alternative path that takes them differently than just unite china

Something simple the devs could do in the meantime before they get their own dlc

[signal cargo]

Sinkiang strategic bombers only ;)

[jaunty pawn]

Guangdong economic powerhouse please

[sharp spade]

I'd assume it'd focus on the Qing and then have a slightly more updated puppet side

[gilded ocean]

they split up sinkiang

not sure how many of the new released nations will get content

[burnt sail]

USA rework hopefully hopefully

[hushed lion]

Most probably will happen, however around this time next year

[burnt sail]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-annoyed-bad-vibes-throw-it-whats-going-on-gif-16325118

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[hushed lion]

I frankly prefer a china update over usa Update anyways

[burnt sail]

yeah asking for usa china and japan in one dlc is too much ig

[thorn hearth]

when is china update coming out

[hushed lion]

Theoretically mid november/December

[hushed lion]

Like we already are getting five countries and a rework to the Chinese regional tree

[crimson tartan]

what do you guys think about the next devcorner being scheduled to 16 september (tuesday) instead of 11 september
are we gonna get 2 devcorners at that week (tuesday + thursday) and then announcement next week?

or is it just holday in sweden at september 11?

or damn it's basically 9/11 memory day i guess

[cold gale]

Sept 4th = Japans Dilemma, Internal Affairs and Militarism, idk i just thought of that.

[crimson tartan]

yea but i meant the 'next' after this one

[long ibex]

They change all the titles and dates every week 🫠

[long ibex]

"Internal fight" maybe?

[cold gale]

That could be it

[long ibex]

"Crafting the
strategic player
fantasy"
?

[thick edge]

internal fight between the IJN and IJA

[boreal ocean]

is that a new czech dlc

i really hope so

[dull tundra]

No no tanna tuva and Oman dlc

[hushed lion]

Bahrain dlc when?

[proper fractal]

finally a Japan game that doesn't get boring after you beat China

[proper fractal]

idk if they confirmed it but they'll 100% add a balance of power to represent that

[drifting star]

Oh I can’t wait to see the new tree

It’s gunna be peak or it’s gunna be revolting idk

[wooden wyvern]

idk historically reworked trees have been pretty good iirc

its usually been the trees given to new countries that were problematic

[onyx hull]

British Raj?

[wooden wyvern]

i suppose that

but cant think of any others really

[onyx hull]

Yea, most of them have been pretty good

Hopefully these won’t disappoint

[wooden wyvern]

looking at majors especially theyve all been on point since NSB

[onyx hull]

Mhm

[wooden wyvern]

so i have confidence in japan

i think if any of the trees are going to be weak its probably the china ones

[onyx hull]

Yea

I hope they don’t tho

[brittle venture]

germany is very very broken rn

[wooden wyvern]

wdym

it was the first country i ever played

it seems fine?

[brittle venture]

very super mega OP

[wooden wyvern]

oh

yea

lol

[brittle venture]

sure if youre new to the game it isnt that strong but

its incredibly poorly balanced

[wooden wyvern]

i mean i think itll correct itself out once all the allies get trees

[brittle venture]

no

[wooden wyvern]

mostly recency bias i think

[brittle venture]

they just have too many battle stats

and also same production as like the USSR

same mil efficiency

better even because more growth

[wooden wyvern]

i mean

fair ig

[brittle venture]

germany before was like eh the strongest major but it could be countered

rn it is just sooo OP

kinda poor rework in that sense imo

[mellow laurel]

...

but does it have the resources to leverage those stats?

because Germany historically has really bad natural resources

(though I would prefer to see more squabbling between the Nazis. The only more dysfunctional government in WW2 was arguably Japan, and they had actual political assassinations of rivals. Something like Stalin's Paranoia system, only less permanent removal of characters and more applying debuffs to characters)

[thick edge]

Vanilla hoi4 doesn’t do a great job displaying it

U can easily make refineries for rubber/oil

[brittle venture]

Yes

[mellow laurel]

ugh

[mellow laurel]

hopefully the Coal update will do something to fix that

[thick edge]

The only real struggle would be not enough oil or chromium I think

[brittle venture]

Just chromium

[thick edge]

I forgot if the Balkan area has good chromium

[brittle venture]

You can ask for romanian oil

[brittle venture]

Sweden and yugo iirc

[mellow laurel]

since historically Coal was needed for synthetic fuels/rubber, and Germany has really shitty coal

[thick edge]

Doesnt Silesia and Saarland have massive coal deposits?

[mellow laurel]

yes, but it's shitty coal that's full of impurities and doesn't burn cleanly

[wooden wyvern]

i still think the actual tree itself is fun

[mellow laurel]

to the point that back when warships were coal-fired in WW1, the High Seas Fleet had a much lower practical top speed than its theoretical maximum because they didn't have access to the kind of coal that would let them get the maximum power out of their engines

[wooden wyvern]

its not like its poorly designed at a fundamental level

[thick edge]

Ohhhh

Thanks for the info

Didn’t know that

[mellow laurel]

Yeah

Britain had access to the good kind of coal

[wooden wyvern]

allies in general had access to far more and better resources

mostly cause theyre all continential or global empires

[thick edge]

Where do u guys like learn that because I would love to read or watch something about that

[wooden wyvern]

like what

stuff about resources?

[thick edge]

Ye

[mellow laurel]

Pretty much. On paper, WW2 should have bogged down on the Western Front just like WW1, but Germany took Paris through dumb luck and France forgetting to protect their flank.

Germany’s military strategy in WW2 is a series of incredibly stupid decisions, and the only reason they worked in the first three years is a combination of no one thinking they’d be stupid enough to do X and consistently catching their enemies with their pants down

Not just France, but much of Operation Barbarossa’s initial success is down to Germany attacking right in the middle of the USSR reorganizing and retraining its military

[thick edge]

I wish there was a way to know what would happen in an alternate reality

Like if the Germans failed dunkirk

[mellow laurel]

They did fail Dunkirk

[wooden wyvern]

i wouldnt really boil it down to luck
or rather i disagree with boiling any type of warfare down to luck

france screwed up

and stalin miscalculated

thats not luck thats just how it was

[mellow laurel]

Fair enough

[thick edge]

I meant like not even reaching the coast

They failed harder

[mellow laurel]

Oh, you mean getting stopped at the French border

[thick edge]

Yeah

[mellow laurel]

Then you get WW1.5: now with tanks.

Even odds on Hitler invading the USSR as well

[wooden wyvern]

ww2 was an anomaly as far as modern wars usually go

more often then not they bog down like ww1 did

[mellow laurel]

There’s a possibility that Italy somehow knocks France out of the war by surprise attack, but that requires Italy to want to invade France in the first place.

[thick edge]

I doubt Italy could get far after marching through mountains

The French are slow but not that slow

[mellow laurel]

Yes

[wooden wyvern]

i mean afaik they calculated the earliest they could be ready for a large scale war was 1943

and in ww1 the italians didnt get anywhere with austria hungary

at least not to the point where it singlehandedly changed anything

[mellow laurel]

And Italy was historically more interested in the Balkans, Greece, and North Africa

[wooden wyvern]

id imagine such an invasion would have similar problems to what they faced against austria hungary

bad terrain and a really narrow frontline

[mellow laurel]

Yep

[lavish imp]

hi guys

[drifting star]

Hello

Yall gunna get up super early to see the diary ?

[hollow coral]

Unemployed activity

[drifting star]

I’m in college

[hollow coral]

Its not a dire urge to view it for me personally

[drifting star]

I have no life like no girl or friends HOI4 is the closest to a relationship I’ll ever get

[empty sparrow]

real

[trim quartz]

It releases at like 11 for me so it’s no bother

[thick edge]

No

[vast shore]

3 more hours at most

[vast shore]

Holy shit its ThatGuyFromCollege

[vast shore]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/developer-corner-japans-dilemma-internal-strife-and-imperialism.1857616/

IT DROPPED

[hollow coral]

crazy

[polar oasis]

why are you guys soo hyped about japan?

[hollow coral]

wow new hirohito portrait

[hollow coral]

funneh rework

[vast shore]

I dont care about Japoan

I CARE ABOUT CHINA

[hushed lion]

Ah so it was strife not affairs

[vast shore]

I LOVE CHINA

[trim quartz]

Nvm it’s out now

[hushed lion]

China is peak

[hollow coral]

hate this guy

[polar oasis]

i don't care about any of the asian reworks. rework uk already.

[hollow coral]

tried to crown himself emperor

[hushed lion]

Uk is ass, nor enough China

[crimson tartan]

Japan’s Dilemma: Internal Strife and Imperialism😭

[vast shore]

WE NEED MORE CHINA

Anyway

[polar oasis]

now they are. or other thing. make germany To maybe. MAYBE do sealion. even if i delete my navy as uk. the italians naval me. ITALIANS. OR THE JAPNESE BEFORE GERMANY.

[trim quartz]

Japan and China bouta become my most played nations

[hollow coral]

🇨🇳 🇨🇳

the chinese century is upon us

[vast shore]

As god intended

Imagine the first hours fo the multiplayer lobbies

10 DIFFERENT PLAYERS ON WARLORDS

[trim quartz]

Emperor Hirohito I serve you 🫡🫡

[vast shore]

it will be glorious

[open crown]

I really don't like how they're doing the content tease. Last time there was a Götterdemärung announcement, whole epic cinematic and the pass was really fun, saying all these countries that are in the dlc was hype and here the announcement just... happened...

[hollow coral]

well no this is different

[vast shore]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[trim quartz]

I think a balance of power would be too simple for Japan

[hollow coral]

massive tree

let me try to see whats happening

[open crown]

I hope we get fat chin Hirohito

[mellow laurel]

I love that all the various factions can force you to do things.

[polar oasis]

i want a uk and usa rework. and rework france a bit. it fells soo empty. add democratic path next to tsarist and fascist to russia. rework romania or yugoslavia. there could be a lot of content there. that's realy all i want. oh and make germany do sealion thanks. soo the ai can alone win against allies.

[mellow laurel]

That’s the sort of internal squabbling that Germany should also have

[hollow coral]

that is from what i can infer

[mellow laurel]

Agreed.

[outer whale]

MENGJIANG CONTENT

[woeful prism]

Amen

[hollow coral]

yes so far left path seems to be supporting the kodoha

very fascist path

[vast shore]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patchy-the-pirate-thats-it-disappointed-gif-27280238

[hollow coral]

from left to right the shared tree seems to be about the strike north and strike south doctrine respectively

[vast shore]

i have returned

[hollow coral]

and a path dealing with china

[polar oasis]

if we are this much into japan add a path where army takes control. and it's almost imposible to capitulate you due to the army never surrenders.

[vast shore]

NO MANCHURIA OR MENGKUKUO MENTIONED

WARLORD ENJOYERS

WE'RE IN SHAMBLES

[dapper fjord]

Finally prime minister..

[hollow coral]

far right path looks to be historical

to be honest i wouldve preferred hirohito to be in power with the political advisors being the rotating ministers

[polar oasis]

like just hire me i fix the british tree xD

[brittle venture]

It scares me

From what ive seen so far japan already gets OP buffs

[vast shore]

the lack of warlord content scares me

[brittle venture]

I hate that

[vast shore]

this isa nerf to japan

[brittle venture]

Idc about warlords

[vast shore]

thats why you're cringe B)

[brittle venture]

They said this about germany too

Lmao

Actually trolling

[vast shore]

lol true

[brittle venture]

No like ill play them but balance wise

Dont care too deeply

[vast shore]

current japan:

that aside

its fine

[brittle venture]

Supremacy of will is strong

[vast shore]

yup

• the buffs you get from the current\

uh

powerstruggle

[brittle venture]

Yeah interservice rivalry

[hollow coral]

herers a better breakdown of the tree

[polar oasis]

i have never played japan soo i have no idea what is good or bad

i never played china aswell

wait lemme check in files what the polish focus is named bc that reused prob

bc i have seen that icon

GFX_focus_generic_polish_deal in files

well that didn't helped a lot XD

[hollow coral]

its used a lot

[polar oasis]

ngl the middle one looks soviet

for e

[hollow coral]

probably not

[polar oasis]

and the right one looks pacific islands. or i make out like if there would be islands on it

or auustralia

[hollow coral]

the kodoha wanted to strike north at the soviets

[frosty jay]

can't wait for the pacific mechanic

[mortal pike]

Aliance with Poland to fight USSR sounds legit althist because Japan had very good cooperation with Poland about soviet spy

[polar oasis]

But i'm sure that australia

[frosty jay]

what?

[hollow coral]

could be but why would they ally with australia and not the british or americans

just seems a bit random

[boreal ocean]

hi

should i make heavy fighters

or small fighters

as ussr

[hollow coral]

it does make sense. ally with poland to attack soviets, ally with germany to attack soviets

[frosty jay]

small fighters

you gain a buff for them production wise

[polar oasis]

plus they are on the other side of the continent

[boreal ocean]

thank you adam

[polar oasis]

and japan didn't attack the soviets in ww2 due to they had no resources. as i know. and that the soviet terain was not good for them

[polar oasis]

That's inteligent tree you got it good. but i think it's just inteligence. due to on the left there is the focus to make one. .or atleast the icon is. and the right starts with a assasination? the soviets have similiar

[mortal pike]

Japan didnt attack soviets because soviet spy network influenced inside so much that they had power to make Japan ignore soviet

[polar oasis]

mongolian flag

[polar oasis]

i'm pretty sure they didn't

[hollow coral]

i also noticed the last focus on that tree was east asia with the rising sun flag so i wasnt entirely sure

[polar oasis]

they had a non agression pact

and the bad terrain in siberia

soo

[hollow coral]

this flag above it seems to be related to mongolia maybe?

[polar oasis]

no

machuria maybe

it looks like that more

ally china path

[mortal pike]

https://www.nippon.com/en/nipponblog/m00143/#:~:text=Operating in Tokyo from 1933 until his eventual,that altered the course of World War II. hello

[polar oasis]

research cooperation?

[polar oasis]

ok i didn't knew about this one. i only learn the eu area mainly. but still it wouldn't make any sense to attack siberia. snowy terrain. almost no resources close. they had no resources due to china war and embargo from usa. and a non agression pact

which ussr broke in 45

pacific hegenomy

[mortal pike]

still there was huge spy mission in Japan from USSR and i wonder if devs consider this like in disasters or something

[sharp spade]

End of an era

[hollow coral]

too blurry to actually know, i dont see anything that would directly hint to that

[polar oasis]

the focus

in the right

it looks like the german focus for it

[hollow coral]

cant tell but kind of looks like a globe with something over it

[polar oasis]

in german tree

puppet focus

[hollow coral]

potentially

this focus tree is kind of a mess though

[polar oasis]

and due to you see how the earth is at asia?

well in the japaniese i don't see land. soo it might be pacific islands

[hollow coral]

i cant tell if the foreign affars are seperate branches or in the exclusive branches

[polar oasis]

nvm it is asia

that's not china or russia. that's manchuria i think

and all of japan

[polar oasis]

like the starter territory

[boreal ocean]

should i accept

i only have 1.74m

[mortal pike]

all puppet focusses are bad until they dont rework how you can impact on puppet, like why i would pick puppet if i can do collab gov and get compliance to full?

[mortal pike]

wrong channel #ask-for-help-here

[polar oasis]

i actually like having puppets

[hollow lion]

Default puppet giving so little industry kinda sucks

[polar oasis]

less stuff to garrison

and buffer state

like poland against ussr

if you don't call them in

[mortal pike]

you use puppet only for 1 reason to exploit stupid AI who will never declare on puppet if they fight you already so you can make your border shorter XD

[brittle venture]

No thats not it

They were more forced into war with china

[polar oasis]

By the army xD

they never surrendered or followed orders from the leaders realy

[brittle venture]

Well yeah

[polar oasis]

that's why there should be a ultra agrresive path with a coup and army leader ship

leadership*

[brittle venture]

The army was already in charge btw

[polar oasis]

at the end. they did a coup. i'm not sure if it succseded

[brittle venture]

They were the ones to appoint hirohito as emperor

Like in place of the civillian government

[polar oasis]

the funny thing is that the goverment surrendered to the usa. and then the army after the goverment surrendered i think 8 days later surrendered to the so iets

[brittle venture]

Yeah?

I mean thats accurate anyway

Army surrendered due to ussr invasion

Civillians surrendered because of nukes

[polar oasis]

But look at 45. with how fast the soviets destroyed the manchurian army. 1 week. no point of fighting them that early.

[polar oasis]

yes

[brittle venture]

They were very intertwined

You should look it up if you havent

[polar oasis]

i only care about european front in ww2

i don't realy like asia

[brittle venture]

Its interesting

[polar oasis]

it's not as intresting. i love air battles. my favourite but navy is not my favourite.

atleast for me

[brittle venture]

The zero..

[polar oasis]

bf109 more intresting in my opinion

zero is a good plane

but the usa used boom and zoom from the start soo

not realy dogfighting

plus they were very easily countered by AA

1 shoot in the fuel

[brittle venture]

I think youre underestimating the size of the pacific ocean

It is really big

[polar oasis]

i know

[brittle venture]

They could never bring that much ordnance

[brittle venture]

Its 30% of the surface of earth really big

With very little land

[polar oasis]

yes i know. but the doctrine of the japanies i might say something stupid here. was descisive battles. destroy the enemy navy.. like at midway. which failed

soo it was concentrated in 1 spot

usually

[brittle venture]

No, they knew they couldnt win after pearl harbour

That was kind of like the risk of their plan

[polar oasis]

They forgot to bomb the stuff which is actually important in pearly harbour ofc they couldn't win XD

[dapper fjord]

twin engine zero not bad too :v

[brittle venture]

Watch this

https://youtu.be/M5_JdMC0n3M?si=AgiGtjVyqtU5r8IW

[hollow coral]

is a 5th path for a full japanese monarchy possible or would it boil down to just the fascist path

[polar oasis]

it looks horible ngl

[brittle venture]

Kinda old and not too in depth but itll tell you everything important

Contextually

[polar oasis]

thanks

i will

but i mean. the japaniese bombed the ships

not fuel, repair yards etc etc

[brittle venture]

Thats a tactical mistake/blunder

Not a strategic one

The difference is that tactical mistakes are kind of unavoidable

[polar oasis]

i actually would call it a strategic one. i think they tought that the ships will sunk and not stay repairable

[brittle venture]

No?

Strategic would be like

The admirals deciding to only hit them in a limited way

As a war plan

[polar oasis]

ok ye mb

though i kinda miss that ingame pearl harbour is not a thing

it's like they should add a nerf for usa navy for like a month

[brittle venture]

Used to be a thing

Then became the japanese 6 month Tora! Tora! Tora! Buff

[polar oasis]

it was? i only started playing post götterdamerüng

[brittle venture]

Before man the guns

[polar oasis]

will anything be added to actually worth doing island hopping in pacific?

bc rn it has no point. i just put my navy as usa to the philipines. and around the japaniese. naval thaiwan and then mainland

[brittle venture]

If it debuffs/buffs allies and japan

[polar oasis]

something like that

bc i don't thikn it is ingame

atm

[brittle venture]

Did u watch the vid btw?

[polar oasis]

half way rn

till now it only said stuff i know

[mellow laurel]

What would make island hopping worth it would be making it so that supply lines across naval routes lose effectiveness the longer they go without stopping at a naval base

[brittle venture]

I mean it isnt a very shocking vid by any means

But its just like basic context

[mellow laurel]

And then having supply routes over sea chain between naval bases

[polar oasis]

yes i learnt ww2 for a few thousond hours. atleast the european front.

[polar oasis]

not bad idea

[mellow laurel]

They actually couldn’t bomb the important stuff in Pearl Harbor because the aircraft carriers were out doing aircrew training. That’s actually why the attack was such a surprise despite Oahu having a primitive Radar station. The Radar operator mistook the incoming Japanese aircraft for American aircraft.

Also, the US managed to salvage a good 90% of all ships sunk at Pearl Harbor within two and a half years, so the attack didn’t have long-term material consequences. The human and psychological costs were real, but the material costs were minimized.

[polar oasis]

yes that's why i said they forgot to bomb important stff

stuff*

the repair yards and fuel

[mellow laurel]

They did

It’s just much easier to repair those, especially from a single attack, than to refloat a sunken battleship

And the US was the primary producer of fuel at that time. Blowing up the fuel at Pearl would just mean the US has to bring in more fuel from the mainland

[polar oasis]

No shit it's easier to repair xD. but if they destroy more shipyards. more time to repair ships

though they shouldn't at the first place do the attack

[mellow laurel]

There were a grand total of two(2) dry docks in Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941

Both were bombed, IIRC

By the end of 1942, there were between three and four Dry Docks operational in Pearl Harbor, alongside several Floating Drydocks, some of which had been sunk on December 7th

No matter how devastating a single attack is, unless you burn your target entirely to the ground, chances are that it’ll get repaired fairly quickly.

[fresh cedar]

Especially after a thermonuclear bomb!

[signal cargo]

Japan would have to restrain themselves from angering america quite well to reach those

[dense veldt]

The japan rework so far looks neat

good old fashioned four way internal politics juggle

[cosmic falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-jojos-bizarre-adventures-jjba-jotaro-kujo-good-grief-gif-17161742

[signal cargo]

Spanish rework gonna be crazyy if they modernize it

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-joseph-shocked-surprised-oh-my-god-gif-8313483

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-jojo-anime-cartoon-japanese-gif-7432836

okay enough jojo referneces

[robust grail]

So for the first time we have a major power that instead of full green buff in 1941-42, we will have a country that specialized for one thing and get meaningful debuff in exchange?

[dull tundra]

Hoi4 not give infinite buffs???????💀

[fading walrus]

thats Japans IRL problem

they could only focus on either the army and navy

[burnt sail]

Its cool nobody does navy in SP anyways

[robust grail]

You got me...

Tbh, SP is the only environment where navy can to be done in a meaningful way, in MP you either air force or subs-spam at best, naval warfare in this current state doesn't have enough strategic value. Only in alt-his you got more naval balance or the game is set up for naval battle.

[gilded ocean]

no point when you can just take an AI nations entire navy when they capitulate

AI should scuttle their navy when they capitulate

[thick edge]

wait what

@jaunty nymph jojo reference

Hoi4 is peak

[quasi harbor]

Honestly i really appreciate the developers behind the next dlc, it is really shaping out to be a good update to the game.

[drifting star]

They said the tree is the size of Germany

The Japan tree will be as large as Germany

Let’s goooo

We need some insane paths to sooth my soul

Who needs gf when you have larp

[cold gale]

left = monarchist
right = fascist

middle looks like diplomacy

[harsh hull]

But what about the wholesome Japanese democracy path where you invade China and the rest of East Asia in order to cement your new democratic economic sphere of influence

It's not something we've ever seen in a Japanese focus tree I don't think

[fresh cedar]

I imagine you’d just back one of the Chinese powers

[thick edge]

Oooh

Me likey

[weary dew]

okay i already posted this suggestion on the forum but, i think Japan should have a focus about trade negotiation with the USA (this focus can be only unlocked if jap invaded china and USA put jap under embargo), if this negotiation succeed, japan embargo from the US will be lift, a non agression pact between USA and JAP is signed and japan have to deal with a white peace or armistice in china (neutral usa have higher chance to accept if jap have for example 3x the size of the US navy), if the negotiation are not a success like it happenend irl with pearl harbor, japan gain focus against USA, jap navy faction grant a boost in expanding south, USA get a bonus defense against japan for some time and their navy a movement bonus and production boost. That's just my idea for making jap and us more interlinked as they were both pacific power

[solid gyro]

Which one of these 3 would be the best?

[fresh cedar]

Probably full carrier or balanced

[solid gyro]

Thanks

[mellow laurel]

carriers are just better than Battleships.

[heavy bolt]

When is dlc estimated to come out

[solid gyro]

I hope on December 7th

[limber frigate]

a day which will live in infamy

[polar jasper]

I wonder how Democratic and Communist Japan will go.

I can definitely see a militarist Democratic/Communist path where they try by force to liberate colonies, possibly by sponsoring uprisings and intervening or just outright invasion.

Maybe Democratic Japan would try to influence the KMT to become less corrupt and more democratic and intervene in the Chinese Civil War

[stable tusk]

I think the Democratic Japan might reach out to the UK to renew the Anglo Japanese Alliance, but I wonder if that will make the Allies too powerful compared to the Axis

[wooden wyvern]

imo in the case of democratic japan they should push for anti colonialism in asia anyways

thatd be pretty neat

having a democratic country that fights uk + usaif necessary

[polar jasper]

You can already join Allies as Japan currently

[stable tusk]

Oh yeah

I never bothered playing alt history Japan tho

[polar jasper]

It was funny Banzai Charging the Germans in the Rhine

you can't actually banzai charge unless you directly occupy land in Germany

[polar jasper]

It would actually be neat if you could ally the United States on the condition they free the Philippines and then the countries can go on an anti-colonial/communist crusade

[wooden wyvern]

oh yea thats sorta what i was thinking

like demo japan can offer or have an ultimatum to colonial powers in east asia

and based on how other countries react they can either create an alliance, push for neutrality of foreign powers, liberation of colonies, etc etc

[polar jasper]

The Eagle and the Sun

I can't think of another focus name for a US-Japan alliance that isn't just Pacific Treaty Organization or something generic like that

Probably would be the faction name lol

[wooden wyvern]

I do hope they offer some cool mechanics with co prosperity sphere for both historical and alt

im curious to see what they do with that

if it will remain just a faction or if it will become an economic thing on top of that

[stable tusk]

I wonder what the 4 way balance of power thing will do if you go communist, like will it just no longer be relevant?

[onyx hull]

Seeing how the inner circle mechanic doesn’t transfer over to other ideologies I’m not sure if that will either, but also the inner circle really only makes sense if you’re fascist so idk

[wooden wyvern]

germany doesnt have inner circle for its alt history

so it probably just

wont be a thing

[onyx hull]

We’ll find out eventually

[stable tusk]

I think it'll work for non aligned, fascist, and democratic
Like Democratic could be increasing the power of the civilian government while weaking the navy and army
Fascist and Nonaligned will probably have it since the Kodoha faction has been teased to be both of those ideologies and they have access to the navy/army focuses
But idk about Communist since there isn't an emperor anymore and the zaibatsus are probably gonna be nationalized

[onyx hull]

Honestly I have to agree with you on that, having you focus on the civilian government as democratic makes a lot of sense

[hollow coral]

I read a dev reply that each path will include the imperial influence. Probably going to be called something for communists

[onyx hull]

I’m interested to see how it turns out

[arctic pine]

TBH, the Kodoha is even more ultranationalist and militaristic than the Toseiha

[fresh cedar]

Could also just be anti communist which then pulls China into a faction with the Soviets and the Soviets do their faction with Germany

[dire coyote]

i relly hope

to see something

on mejiang

whatever it called

japnese mongolia

recreate yuan

or something

something fun

[hollow coral]

A bit unrealistic tbh but he is seen as a symbol for pan mongolism and mongolian irredentism

[hushed lion]

Mengjiang

[dire coyote]

close nuff

[twilit jolt]

there are a few focuses about "evolving" Mengjiang with the final focus being a war goal on Mongolia so I am assuming there'll be a new formable or Mengjiang will get cores on it

Mongol Military Government

Mongol United Autonomous Government

emblem of Mengjiang

[thick edge]

No pixels

💔

[twilit jolt]

yeah they blurred it

[thick edge]

Meanies

[twilit jolt]

honestly what I am confused about is why there's the African tricolour at the right

[hollow lion]

Enhance! xd

[hushed lion]

Finally big Mengjiang

[fossil torrent]

Maybe there’s a focus for an axis link up in the middle east

[hybrid patio]

Is China getting new focus trees or just reworked mechanics

[pseudo wing]

just for that, I'm blurring it more

[thick edge]

New

[fresh cedar]

Probably would be more like create a new faction with the USA against communism and fascism while also toppling Asia to democratic

[drifting star]

The pc my dad bought for me when I was in middle school has finally died 🥀🥀🥀

[somber hatch]

Should've taken better care of it

[drifting star]

It’s 12 years old pre built

[somber hatch]

Oh

Damn

Old af

[drifting star]

This thing took me from algebra 1 to my doctorate

[somber hatch]

Damn

I've had mine for like 4 years every Christmas its had problems

[drifting star]

Yeah I think with the more demanding games it’s starting to wear older hardware

[somber hatch]

Im gonna build a new one so I can play my games at max quality bc rn I only have a 2090

[hollow lion]

2090 doesnt exist

[somber hatch]

2060 I mean

[hollow lion]

[hollow lion]

🥺 I can help if you want-

[somber hatch]

Absolutely not

[hollow lion]

😔

[drifting star]

Anyone know how to fix a dell

Power comes on goes to loading screen but stops signal and keyboard connection right afterwards

[waxen axle]

Do you think will be more dev corners for more nations or thats it only philippines china and japan?

[somber hatch]

Maybe, maybe not who knows but japan China and the Philippines is enough for me tbh not gonna complain

[waxen axle]

Damn atleast they could give siam and indonesia some focus

[somber hatch]

If they give Indonesia something I hope its sum like Belgium and the congo has, same with the Philippines bc trees like that are really fun

[hollow lion]

Oh the shared focuses with overlord?

[drifting star]

Prolly just gunna be smaller mechanics

That’s what the diary titles imply

Machukuo will hopefully be reworked

[mellow laurel]

Laptop or desktop?

I can help with a desktop, but a laptop is beyond me

[drifting star]

Nvm it fixed itself yay

[mellow laurel]

If it happens again, you can try plugging the cables connecting the monitor and keyboard into the computer into different ports on the computer or the monitor

[hollow coral]

Its the secret tree where haile selassie becomes the emperor of japan

[drifting star]

Where do u see the tri color

[hollow coral]

Kodoha branch theres on of the focuses near the top with the ethiopian colours

[stable tusk]

There's also this Ethiopian flag right under the Kodoha tree starts
Maybe the Kodoha will be able to help Ethiopia and even ally them

[drifting star]

Imagine if that’s some other random country instead

[stable tusk]

Nah, the green yellow red with the brown in the middle is way too specific for it to be something random

[hollow coral]

and those colours didnt really start appearing until after african decolonialism began

it could probably only be referencing ethiopia

[signal cargo]

Woah

Interesting talk you guys have here

Ethiopian japan would be really cool

[hollow coral]

doubt its anything to do with an ethiopian takeover of japan

more likely just supporting them

[signal cargo]

Thats fair 😅 still cool to see a new focus tree have focuses dealing with another nation with a focus tree, i wish they would embrace more international diplomacy than just faction making

[brittle venture]

They can already exile to japan btw

[hollow coral]

i am aware

[brittle venture]

Ever done?

You can get taiwan

[hollow coral]

ive done it like once

because i dont often play ethiopia

probably the least enjoyable country to play

[brittle venture]

Switzerland exists

[hollow coral]

Forgot about them

Probably the most convoluted tree ever

Bba wouldve been better if albania was in it

[brittle venture]

Like no country is as unplayable as switzerland

[hollow coral]

I still have one more achievement to do for them

Then i never have ti play it again

[solid gyro]

Iceland

[brittle venture]

At least they get like a combined 70% attack on marines

Or something similar

At peak strenght

And also they have options to actually go to war

[hollow coral]

To be honest i had a lot of fun playing iceland for the achievement

The only restrictions it has are its manpower and location

But atleast the fascist and alt his path let you gain free territory

[full scaffold]

Njett molotoff

[lilac vessel]

Swiss army is obscene if you play your cards right

[waxen axle]

Hey guys when do you think the new DLC will be released?

this year or next?

[hushed lion]

Around late November to December

[waxen axle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-black-guy-gif-25962626

[timber willow]

Switzerland is super fun when you optimize your intelligence agency to steal tech from Germany as early as possible. Your research catches up very quickly

[lilac vessel]

you also just get obscene buffs

[timber willow]

Its crazy. I played them for the first time last month, early on thought they sucked, but once you spend some time optimizing for territory and intel early then buffs afterwards, you become insanely powerful in the late game. Super fun

[lilac vessel]

I mean even with no territory and intel you are still OP

[mellow laurel]

Trans-Pacific Alliance.

Save the fancy names for focuses that need the alliance

[solid gyro]

The ring of fire

[runic bronze]

is there like a "Ask a dev" but for here

i kinda wanna ask

is there gonna be japanese anarchist content?

[stable tusk]

You could always try the PDX forums
Idk if they'll reply to you but there's a good chance that somebody reads your post

[runic bronze]

Skimmed over ethiopia

[torpid tulip]

which nations are getting a new dlc again?

[stable tusk]

So far the countries confirmed are China, Commie China, Manchukuo (nothing was shown for them, just a confirmation that they are getting worked on), Japan, and the Philippines

I think Siam might also get a tree in the next dlc but nothing's been confirmed yet

[wooden wyvern]

siam better get one

istg if the philipines gets one over siam ima crash out

[wooden wyvern]

so like a sphere of prosperity? a greater east asian one maybe?

maybe you could call it...

[cold gale]

ngl as a funny but ideal thought

paradox should make their own chatgpt-type AI so people can ask it what the best division or what meta they should play 🤔

idk just thought of that cuz it can help alongside tutorials (i've played 3.4k hours, i don't know navy, but i know infantry tanks planes etc.)

[brittle venture]

no

ai is bad and also sucks at that anyway

ai is just bad as an investment anyway

costs a lot to develop and a lot to maintain

[wild narwhal]

800 dollars later i have an ai
is it good? no. but will it suffice for something as simple as hoi4? yes.
i consider that cheap

[brittle venture]

Hoi4 meta is not as simple as it seems to you 😭

Also you have to run the servers

Like constantly

[wild narwhal]

power-on hours never been expensive

[brittle venture]

For a lot of users of the video game

[signal cargo]

What if they made a chatgpt bot that actually thinks when it plays rather than have everything scripted

[cold gale]

Could be funny tbh

[signal cargo]

Yeahh

If they didnt make it extremely smart, the dumb actions that change games would be so rememberable lol

[hard smelt]

<@&846894118219022336> scam

[pure schooner]

Got it

[waxen axle]

I cant wait for this DLC release