latest-updates

[hollow coral]

i thought this was about democratic russia path

[brittle venture]

Yeah and then someone goes 'all russians are uncivilized and cant have democracy'

[hollow coral]

ig i didnt read that

[fading walrus]

The only things that are uncivilized and cant have democracy are the Termanids, Automates and Illumnates from hell divers 2

[trim quartz]

Uhhh what about the DEMOCRATIC peoples Republic of Korea - the most democratic and free nation in the world ☝️☝️☮️☮️ 🇰🇵

[cold gale]

i feel like they'll get a path with japan and manchukuo

[trim quartz]

I desperately want an updated Manchukuo tree

Obviously restoring the Qing is fun, but a refreshed puppet path would be interesting

Carry the Japanese, etc

[fresh cedar]

All of China could use a rework. Asia in general

[winter crag]

who knows Russian who plays

[hollow coral]

Yeah and they should name the dlc like waking the tiger or smthn

[hasty lark]

What's the point of this chat

[fading walrus]

to show case the dev diaries

[fresh cedar]

Too bad that DLC was insanely dated

[fresh cedar]

Latest updates is typically to discuss the current state of the game or developer updates.

[fresh cedar]

Genuinely wonder how Anarchism, Autarky, and New Economic policy will interact with coal

They’re sorta comparable to Total Mobilization, so hope they don’t get eaten by the energy cost

[barren tusk]

yoo guys i found this leaf in my park when i was haging out. shall i be scared?

[fresh cedar]

They don’t own east Prussia, it’s fine

[barren tusk]

what a relief

[crisp rivet]

are you poland, czechiaslovakia, or france?

[barren tusk]

france

[crisp rivet]

be less scared

but do. not. trust. the wall'

[barren tusk]

don't worry i have belgium in good hands

i believe.........

[crisp rivet]

[harsh hull]

I dunno man, based on the shape of that leaf, it doesn't control East Prussia, but it does control more territory of France - all the way to Nancy at least

And if the stem is any indication, they're already planning their Operation Sealion into England

[narrow wave]

[fading walrus]

I can’t confirm if the coal resource is going to be on the map like this

But here is a possible frame of reference

[warm shore]

Is there an server where i can do updates ideas?

[stable tusk]

I mean, if you want to suggest something you can do it on the forums

[warm shore]

Ok i will try

[hollow lion]

cool

[obtuse ingot]

Funko Pops

[digital pumice]

can someone pin that dev corner timetable

[fresh cedar]

Sounds like they want to do a collectors edition of hearts of iron with games 1-4 and a figurine

[fresh cedar]

Could be cool, also cool new pfp 🙂

[fresh cedar]

Siberia and China will actually be super worth

[fading walrus]

Australia too

[fresh cedar]

Japanese expansionism in general would make more sense

[fading walrus]

Like Australia will be vital to the UK

And Japan

[fresh cedar]

South America and Africa would suck 😭

[fresh cedar]

Just like in real life

[keen ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376282927402455122/1376965641298382940/glup.gif

[tawdry condor]

why is hitler hidden

[keen ledge]

Because I'm from Poland, and the game thought it would be innapropriate to show his face

[tawdry condor]

soft ahh country

[keen ledge]

just realized I dropped it in the wrong channel 😖

[solid gyro]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3453200924

Should help xD

[fresh cedar]

For some reason I thought it was only like that in Germany. Understandable, though the new Hitler looks like Michael Scott from the office. 😭 Is Czech your puppet??

[fresh cedar]

Wouldn’t that bypass something 😂

[keen ledge]

no, I'M THE CZECH

minutes later italy joined the axis and I was being attacked from three sides

I wanted to see what would happen if I would reject giving up the sudetenland

[fresh cedar]

How did that go? Tbh with anti tank and anti air support you can hold off well

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey should’ve just joined axis bc fascist and backstabbed right as they invaded the Soviets and joined Comintern

[keen ledge]

even tho I'm called an empire, I don't have ANYTHING. Manpower is just man, economy is non-existent, I can't even meet the normal infantry equipment criteria 💔

if I created the austro-hungarian empire I wouldn't be in such a bad situation, but whenever I try to invade yugoslavia croatia pops out of nowhere cutting me off and taking all the terrain that I need

[fresh cedar]

Yeah it’s pretty bad till you form Austro Hungary

[fresh cedar]

Oooh I think when a fascist invades Yugoslavia, Croatia breaks off

Since there’s separatist fascists in Croatia

[fresh cedar]

So you’re still holding off?

[keen ledge]

no 💔

I'm softlocked

I have to create a new run

so it seems like the best choice is to go for communism, right?

[fresh cedar]

Communism is pretty good bc can get weekly manpower now. But lowkey I think you can ally Soviets even when fascist

Fascist might be better bc can join axis then Comintern later

If that’s what you want

Just don’t join their wars if you can help it

[fresh cedar]

Tragic

[solid gyro]

Well better Portraits... Idk what else xD

[digital pumice]

why is himmlers forehead so big

[solid gyro]

Bc of the source

[ivory rune]

Paradox team fix your game. stop the naval tast force bug that crashes the game. random players are doing it so often to troll. please wake up.

[wraith prawn]

this isn't were the devs read you
head to prdx forums for that

[stable tusk]

Guderian's portrait is literally just his KR portrait

[long ibex]

I don't undestand this kind of censorship. It's better to play with historical accuracy.

In fact, I play with mods that put swastika in the game.

And yes, I'm an antifascist in real life.

[stable tusk]

It's most likely censored like that because it's banned in certain countries idk about Poland but in Germany all Nazi officials have their portraits censored to follow the law there
Also Swastikas are literally illegal in Sweden where Paradox is from so there's good reason why they don't have them in game

[long ibex]

Yes, and killing people is illegal too. It's a game and it have to represent real history

...
I have deep reasons to feel bad with the Spanish Francoist flag. My great-grandfather was in a prison camp and other relatives died...

But the flag and historical characters are what they are and in the game they must appear realistically.

[stable tusk]

Well would you rather the game be banned in all these countries or would you rather have the censored flag
You can represent history without the swastika and it'll be a lot easier to have your game actually be available to people

[vapid bloom]

There are mods for it you can get

I agree with you but it's often just not practical to have a game include stuff like that

[vapid bloom]

Also can't speak for the other countries but the game definitely wouldn't be banned in Australia if it included a swastika

AFAIK the only laws pertaining to the use of the swastika here are about public display

[fresh cedar]

I do the Swatstika mod too for accuracy tbh

[fresh cedar]

Legit my mindset too

[solid gyro]

Lies...

[solar remnant]

I'm playing as Peru right now because I didn’t know how to play at first, and I’m having fun. Too bad I don’t have a focus tree.

It looks like someone made a mod called "En Unión y Libertad" that adds content for South America.

[frank gulch]

I just use mods

Ezpz

Historic flag is a necessity for me

[long ibex]

Affect these mods to your personal career profile?

[fresh cedar]

Peru is actually really good

[fresh cedar]

What did you end up trying

[dusky rivet]

how can i get hoi4 badge

?

[keen ledge]

hey, sorry for not responding but I took a long nap lol. I went with communism this time so that Croatia wouldn't pop out, I actually managed to take Italy (they weren't in the axis by then), currently working on taking Germany. I puppeted some southern Yugoslavia states like Macedonia, Kosovo etc. for their resources, my next target will probably be Poland and then maybe France.

[floral scaffold]

Cosmetic mods that allow you to play ironman won't affect you

[fresh cedar]

Actuslly super impressive ngl

I suck as Communist Poland

[cold gale]

in some future update, hoi4 should add a democratic russia path cuz idk why kerensky would be here if there was some cut content, and was supposed to be added for it...

[brittle venture]

He was there before NSB as well

[jolly wasp]

I’m currently learning about the Russian revolution. That would be great

[polar jasper]

It was planned for one to exist, but the best thing you can do now is reform the triple entente

[ivory vault]

Irrelevant but I feel that the paradox nazi flag is much better suited for a fascist Germany because the iron cross alone invokes feelings of militarism, ultranationalism etc while cutting the severe excesses of that regime in real life

[twilit jolt]

iirc Victoria 3 has a variant of the IRL flag with the swastika replaced with the iron cross

[ivory vault]

Wikipedia says this is apparently used by german neo nazis lmao

[twilit jolt]

yeah

HOI4 version of the flag is in game as well but Germany needs to be fascist specifically rather than just being a dictatorship

[ivory vault]

"Is a dictatorship" is too vague

Like communist Germany also uses this flag in Victoria 3?

[ivory vault]

I see

[fresh cedar]

Ig Hitler and Strasser are pretty different

I’d say it’s pretty confusing to have everything else under non aligned too

[short tusk]

where did you get those flags

[cold gale]

could be victoria 3

[twilit jolt]

Yeah

[stuck gate]

Where is the HOI4 developer corner calendar?
They have published one a few weeks ago

[hollow lion]

#latest-updates message

[fresh cedar]

Next dev diary is the 29th

I’m guessing they deemed the content too half baked to talk in detail. Bc they barely responded to questions and put the dev diary off like a month

[pseudo wing]

not at all, its the middle of vacation time for PDX, so no one is around to talk about it until the end of the month

as for the previous one, that was also during vacations (the very start of it) so unfortunately they didnt get to answering them properly

[fresh cedar]

That explains so much my god

Always forget they get like half the year off in vacation

[fresh cedar]

Was cursed because the guy said there’s lots of good questions and just never replied 😭

Though I will say the faction stuff seems much further along now

[pseudo wing]

less than half a year aha, but they get a month off in the summer and a month off in the winter if I remember correctly

I don't get the same amount of time off but honestly I don't do well on vacations, I prefer to work XD

[fresh cedar]

Can’t imagine that in the US 😭

I need to move to Scandinavia

[fresh cedar]

I’m the complete opposite tbh

If I never had to work again I wouldn’t

[pseudo wing]

I got that 'if I dont work I feel useless' mentality

so even on vacation I find things to work on, cant sit still

well, I can sit still but gotta do something lmao

[fresh cedar]

Gotta occupy the mind yeah

I get that honestly

I used to feel like that, then started doing HR. And was like “Yup I’m good.” 😂

[pseudo wing]

but yeah, I've been trying to find out when specific people get back from vacation so that we can answer the questions on the last dev corner and whatnot, but they aint back just yet

and yeah, I already handle enough here, HR would be a whole other thing, though one could say this side is more scarring, I think the amount of paperwork in HR is more scarring to me lol

[fresh cedar]

I honestly didn’t realize they were on vacation so it makes complete sense why replies are slower. But that’s completely okay.

Yeah the paperwork is insane. It’s like Warhammer 40k levels of bureaucracy and filing

[hidden axle]

https://x.com/tmz_sports/status/1948407543551914426?s=46

TMZ Sports (@TMZ_Sports)

Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan has died at 71 years old 💔🕊️

X · Jul 24, 2025, 3:38 PM

[fresh cedar]

It’s crazy, I’m still shook about Ozzy

[modest hound]

@coral kettle

@coral kettle

@coral kettle

@coral kettle

[polar jasper]

I think the threes ended.

It was the kid from the Cosby show, Ozzy, and now Hulk Hogan.

They always go in threes

[stable tusk]

Unfortunately the food is a massive con

[fresh cedar]

I cook for myself 95% of the time so I’ll be fine

[cosmic falcon]

I'm surprised Kerensky doesn't have a unique portrait. Democratic Russia only gives you a generic one.

[honest knot]

how to get the page?

[modest grotto]

will the upcoming navy reworks fix the issue where naval bombers in naval battles will not defend themselves from enemy fighters even if they have modules that give them air attack like mg or mg turrets?

[twilit jolt]

https://vic3.paradoxwikis.com/List_of_flags

[honest knot]

if HOI4 has the similar one?

[twilit jolt]

there isn't one but someone could make one given the wiki is community ran

[hollow lion]

you could also look in the game folder

[fresh cedar]

Would definitely be ideal to refer to a wiki tbh. Folders involve a lot of back and forth

[silent flame]

When’s the next dev corner?

[fading walrus]

2 days

[fresh cedar]

29th

[long ibex]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi-5-in-2029-30-how-will-it-be.1852730/

HoI 5

[cosmic stag]

we NEED a Ranger battalions unit

[polar jasper]

Why though, what's wrong with the support company

That is your battalion

Mountaineers could be your light infantry

[fading walrus]

Dev Diary is tomorrow

[cosmic falcon]

What do you think will be revealed tomorrow?

[pseudo wing]

No, that will never happen, and do not bypass the filter to try and say it.

[fluid shadow]

Noope

No

Just not

That's a horrible idea

[hardy rampart]

😞

https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

[fluid shadow]

Just no

Nobody needs that

[polar jasper]

Is it sad that im pretty sure I know what the deleted message probably said

[fluid shadow]

Just means you know the community

What is sad is that the community has those kind of people

[drifting star]

How yal think the alt paths will be reworked , wonder if a Mongolia will be added

The steppes call to me

[drifting star]

?

[polar jasper]

Make a guess of what feature a guy in the hoi4 community wants that PDX will never add. Don't say anything and just use the power of context clues

[fresh cedar]

People have been demanding it since the game came out. Wild that they still ask even now as if the devs wouldn’t have added it years ago if they ever were

[severe canyon]

wha a ww2 mod has nazis.

Who would've gussed

it is sad tho

[fluid shadow]

.... that's literally what I said

[fresh cedar]

That’s not what they asked about

Nazis are already represented in the game along with many collaboration regimes for them

[severe canyon]

True

Smh

[drifting star]

What could they possibly have asked 💀💀💀

[fluid shadow]

Something messed up, and that's all I'll say about this

[fresh cedar]

Wonder what the diary will cover

[brittle venture]

Theyre gonna overhaul the entire game like stellaris fr

[fresh cedar]

Nawww

[stable tusk]

It looks like it ends with "mes"
That means absolutely nothing without the rest of the redacted stuff

[brittle venture]

Japan update, just the right time to add money

[fresh cedar]

Would kill the game if they added money

I’d legit mod the game to remove it and I only ever play vanilla

[brittle venture]

Im kidding 😭

[fresh cedar]

Nah ik just makes me mad even considering it

Millenium Dawn straight cheeks now

[brittle venture]

I hope they do BoP between pacific colonizers and japan and also BoP of army vs navy

[fluid shadow]

MD is a fun mod

[thick edge]

Time to ask ChatGPT every word that ends with “Mes”

It’s watching me

[fading walrus]

Goverment General of Chosen really interests me

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor-General_of_Chōsen

Korea might become a playable nation, I theorize it will be similar to the Belgian congo from Gotterdamerung

[quartz anvil]

It's Aerodynamics, for real.
That joke with "dynamics" went out of control.

[fresh cedar]

Oh I’m sure it will be playable. Probably will be a way for the Cold War to get hot too depending on how the Korean War goes

Since devs have been saying they want more post war content

[fresh cedar]

It used to be fun but it really jumped the shark with the economy rework

[fluid shadow]

Nah, I like the economy system

[fresh cedar]

If I wanted to mess with economy I’d play Victoria. MD economy is easy and just insufferable.

[fluid shadow]

That's your opinion, sure. I like it

[fresh cedar]

Yes, debt simulator in a dedicated war game is a lot of fun

[fluid shadow]

Yeah

I like building my economy

That mixed with the hou4 war system and focus tree is very nice

[drifting star]

Hou4 my favorite

[fluid shadow]

Lmao

[astral pewter]

Hou4 is the best game ever made

[fluid shadow]

Hou4 is peak

[astral pewter]

fr

[fluid shadow]

Hearts of Uranium 4

[astral pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-feline-meme-funny-gif-8764472215214951735

[drifting star]

The rework should include more rebuffs for high conscription

[fluid shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[drifting star]

Also more events to deal with opposition movements to the war

[drifting star]

Crimes ? Maybe local police idk

I can imagine low stability would bring more criminality to the streets

[quasi harbor]

When hoi4 update?

[fresh cedar]

Probably September

[fresh cedar]

Wonder if it’s reworking puppets again

I like in CK3 how there’s like levels of vassals. HOI4 doesn’t really allow a puppet to have a puppet but could be neat

[fluid shadow]

I mean double puppets are possible

But they aren't really natural

[fresh cedar]

Buy yk how in Crusader kings it like works

[fluid shadow]

Yeah

Would be cool yeah

[fresh cedar]

Would lowkey be better with Reichkommisariats

[brittle venture]

Ck3 just works in general

[dusk mist]

Definitely not "mes"

Look at the size of the spaces between the legs of the alleged m

"mics" is much more likely

Plus fits the "dynamics" joke

[digital pumice]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/developer-corner-aerohydrodynamics.1852938/

cool

new spec ops

we actually got rangers

[digital pumice]

your request has been fulfilled lol

[quasi harbor]

I love the pink drooodles

These dev diaries are shaping this update to be amazing

[fading walrus]

intresting

new special forces and carrier mechanics overhauled

[barren tusk]

Cool another branch

So marines buffs of jungles and islands will be transferred into the newest branch

I suppose

[cosmic falcon]

I wonder if the next dev diary will be about a Japan rework.

[fading walrus]

and nautral harbors like Truk Lagoon and Pearl Harbor for example

[quasi harbor]

It is the next logical step

We've been dropped dev diaries all around Japan and its game mechanics

[rotund cargo]

I am glad you appreciate my artistic skills 🙂

[cosmic stag]

hello

[barren tusk]

That should be released in October no?

[summer stone]

are we gonna get nuclear carriers or is that like tech not available at this time

[brittle venture]

theyre beautiful :D

[cosmic stag]

so let me get this straight: PDX Is adding a actual Rangers battalion unit to HOI4?

[summer stone]

very lovely art made from the pdx team❤️‍🩹

[brittle venture]

yes

[cosmic stag]

nice

but how will they work?

[brittle venture]

we dont know

[cosmic stag]

alr

[barren tusk]

Shhhh ahhhh voiceline 😭🙏

[summer stone]

?

[burnt sail]

Lowkey crazy 😭

[cosmic stag]

oh baby i cant wait to get the RANGERs unit

[solid gyro]

PARADOX WHEN WILL THERE BE A JAPAN FOCUS TREE

[fading walrus]

Soon

Like I’m completely certain that Japan is gonna get overhauled

[digital pumice]

didnt they explicitely say that?

they said they are gonna rework east asia

[fading walrus]

Its obvious given how it involves carriers and east Asia

And this image too

[cosmic falcon]

I hope they give content for Siam, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines. Maybe even Indochina.

[digital pumice]

they're gonna prioritise japan and china

siam too probably

idk about the others

[sharp spade]

Probably the content pack after the dlc

[cosmic stag]

we need a commando unit

[mellow laurel]

Not necessarily. Rangers might get the Jungle buffs, but the island fighting and/or naval invasion stuff will probably remain the domain of Marines simply because Marines are the naval special forces while Rangers are more “light infantry” specialists

That said, the Carrier changes are basically everything I wanted. Carriers should be able to launch aircraft when not in combat

And Escort Carriers coming?

It’s perfect

[rotund cargo]

Indeed. Rangers may get better fighting in the Jungles of bigger Islands like Borneo or Sumatra, while for storming 'smaller' Islands, Marines will remain a premier choice.

So in that case it was my less than stellar English, probably leading to a bit of confusion amongst the readers - where I said about 'fighting on Islands and Jungles'

[green iron]

Gives us something more specialized for defending/invading Burma too

[polar jasper]

Well lucky you. Latest dev corner has rangers as unique special forces.

[green iron]

Speaking of, wonder if India will get the tech and a few divisions for free to represent the Chindits

[fresh cedar]

Rangers are cool, but for some reason I thought marines kinda did what they do in game? Will have to see how they’re implemented

[fresh cedar]

Japan, India, Brazil, Belgium and the US should all get them tbh

[polar jasper]

I always thought mountaineers were your standard light infantry

[fresh cedar]

I kinda saw mountaineers as rangers too. Whereas marines were for invading islands

[polar jasper]

And marines had the ability to deal with jungles like at Guadalcanal

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Exactly

Marines do get jungle buffs

[polar jasper]

Last time I checked, it wasn't the army rangers storming beaches but the USMC

[fresh cedar]

Think it’s intended for bigger islands or theaters

[polar jasper]

I think rangers would be epic though for Europe, South America, and SEA

[fresh cedar]

Like you’d be using them in Burma/Indochina

[green iron]

Whereas specialized jungle units make a lot of sense in South America, and SEA

[fresh cedar]

Tbh they’re probably being added mainly for India and Japan fighting in Burma

[green iron]

Why Europe if they are specialized for Jungles unless they also work well for forests (breaking through the Ardennes with Infantry?)

[pastel lantern]

Can someone help me to understand what the new update is adding to the game i also can vc if that suits better for ya

[fresh cedar]

I think they’re specialized for all forests

[green iron]

Oh sick

[brittle venture]

hi jonathan :3

[polar jasper]

Hi

[rotund cargo]

As I mentioned a few lines above, they are 'woodland/vegetated' specialists

[brittle venture]

it looks cool imo

[polar jasper]

I thought rangers were for wooded places

[rotund cargo]

So yes, by default they have Forest / Jungle buffs

[green iron]

Thank you, that makes a lot more sense and makes them definitely really useful

[fresh cedar]

They’re reworking Japan, China, Korea. Changing how naval works a bit by giving them less range and making the occupation of specific seas more stable/long term. Islands have sizes now and building limits. Rangers being added. Coal is being added which will determine factory output depending on how much coal you have relative to your use. So if you need 100 coal but only have 40, only producing 40% guns normally would

[fresh cedar]

Sorry to ping but I asked on the dev diary. Will rangers get 3d art? And if so do you know a few who will get them?

[pastel lantern]

Not gonna buy that I’ve never been a fan of navy

[polar jasper]

I want to see the devs make a steam workshop mod of developer art

Everything is replaced with original developer art

It would be beautiful

[fresh cedar]

That was kinda Japan’s whole thing lol

[green iron]

Navy changes honestly look really good right now

[cosmic stag]

yes i saw

[pastel lantern]

I just hope they allow people who don’t buys or don’t wants to activate the dlc to stay without the changes

[fresh cedar]

The coal, island size and faction reworks are pretty huge too

[pastel lantern]

I love that but the navy 😭 is so ass to me

[fresh cedar]

It should be better with the changes they’ve talked about

[polar jasper]

I think most of these will be base game

[inland bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-cry-sorry-crying-sad-gif-15787985

[polar jasper]

Also carriers having more ASW is epic

And the ability to use planes while they are on missions

[fresh cedar]

From a developer reply, it looks like there will be different deck types now. So ASW decks may actually exist

[cosmic stag]

@polar jasper cant wait for the update for Me To get RANGERs

[pastel lantern]

It’s just hard to understand the naval play

[brittle venture]

a lot of navy changes will likely be free

[fresh cedar]

That’s the opposite of what Kayla wants lol. Want it optional

[polar jasper]

Big ships attack big ships

Small ships attack small ships and defend the big ones

Basically

[brittle venture]

i want it optimal

but im in a larping mood

[pastel lantern]

But making task forces and splitting them you know it just sucks

[polar jasper]

Wdym split them

You don't except for subs

[fresh cedar]

Do not exceed 100 a stack, little ship protect big but if have too many big in stack, all big not defended.

[polar jasper]

Unless they change it

[fresh cedar]

I like that part 😦

[polar jasper]

(Me with my 200 ship deathstack)

[fresh cedar]

Gets ate by debuffs so IC to effectiveness way worse

[pastel lantern]

Im just a German enjoyer and Soviet sweatlord i never played any other country not even Switzerland and im Swiss and i know it has the biggest focus tree 🤣

[fresh cedar]

To be fair Switzerland is insanely boring

[pastel lantern]

Why

[brittle venture]

fake

[pastel lantern]

Never played them

[polar jasper]

Basically if you want a ratio for a large carrier task force, it would be:

5 carriers, 5 other capitals, 30 screens

[brittle venture]

yeah but you win

[polar jasper]

Or 4, 4, 24

[fresh cedar]

You can’t expand too much and it’s basically just a focus tree observation simulator

[pastel lantern]

Lol

[polar jasper]

You will need other task forces when new update comes out though

[fresh cedar]

Like there’s probably 15 focuses just dedicated to Swiss gold

[polar jasper]

Since each mission has its own thing

[brittle venture]

and they somehow made so if you dont pay attention while observing you can get attacked by all majors

suddenly

[fresh cedar]

Played Switzerland like 3 times when it came out and never again

[brittle venture]

or just have a rlly bad nation

so its observing war but worse

[fresh cedar]

And they magically teleport through you despite having a quadrillion divisions and max forts

[polar jasper]

Improve relations to not die

[pastel lantern]

Dawg feels like they are offending the Swiss players

By making sim city simulator

[polar jasper]

I played historical Switzerland and didn't have a bad time

[brittle venture]

swiss is like worst tree in the game

[fresh cedar]

Switzerland just doesn’t feel like a HOI4 focus tree

Feels like Vic 3 or something.

[brittle venture]

vic 3 if no eco

[fresh cedar]

Somehow the Congo and Ethiopia are better

[pastel lantern]

Victoria 3 is like hoi4?

[brittle venture]

no

[fresh cedar]

Not at all lol that’s the problem

[pastel lantern]

It’s tooooooo hard to actually not get killed by Italy as Ethiopia

[fresh cedar]

Vic 3 basically stonk building simulator

[polar jasper]

Vic 3 is quite different

[fresh cedar]

It is tough yeah

[brittle venture]

fun!

[polar jasper]

Italy spawning 2 divisions in Aussa hurts

So much

Before that, it was an easy game

[fresh cedar]

Basically main things in DLC though, Coal/Energy, island rework, Asia rework

[pastel lantern]

For me the funniest country is Germany

[polar jasper]

If US gets some content, I will be happy

Doesn't need to be a full rework

Italy is quite a fun country

[brittle venture]

swiss like gameplay for the US when?

[fresh cedar]

I guess they’re adding 3d art for rangers but devs aren’t allowed to say yet bc will be revealed later. 😔

Saw zwir typing lol

[fresh cedar]

Will have to get some atleast

[pastel lantern]

Appointing your goons as Hitler feels like a gang boss

[polar jasper]

Trying to convince Congress why to pass a bill: difficulty level impossible

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey

Then one can take over

[polar jasper]

I like my idea on changing the US though

But no one cared lol

[pastel lantern]

Only if you do the strong successor focus

[fresh cedar]

I never do, Hitler kinda cracked

[fresh cedar]

Just needs to have dedicated Army, Air, Sea spirits and focuses to match Germany/Soviets

[pastel lantern]

I think if you lose Berlin hitler can get replaced

But tbh if I’m going to lose the capital id rather quit

So never saw it

[fresh cedar]

Can lowkey sometimes lose to a naval invasion but otherwise never do yeah

Unless I’m going for Eva Braun

[pastel lantern]

Who is Eva Braun

[inland bloom]

the wife of hitler

[pastel lantern]

What bonuses she has

[inland bloom]

idk, i never had her as leader before

[pastel lantern]

Anyway hitler is the one with the highest bonuses right among all the goons

Or is there someone who is better

[inland bloom]

yep, like the pp

[inland bloom]

no idea

[fresh cedar]

Eva Braun is better

[inland bloom]

damn that is way better

holy shit

[pastel lantern]

Hitler gets those too

[fresh cedar]

Hitler gets 5% less division attack

[inland bloom]

not iron maiden

[fresh cedar]

Iron Maiden is really strong bc pushes the buffs further

Plus she looks cool?

[pastel lantern]

But when you do the focuses of show off the victories the Wehrmacht gets higher recovery rate and stuff

[fresh cedar]

Can do that with her too

[pastel lantern]

Via deutches heer

I thought was exclusive to hitler

[fresh cedar]

I think she basically is like Hitler

As far as the code goes

She effectively replaces him

[fresh cedar]

What’s the change

[pastel lantern]

How do you get her though

[fresh cedar]

Gotta fail like 2-3 things as Hitler

So like Sudentenland failed, Memel failed, Anschluss failed etc

[pastel lantern]

🤣

[fresh cedar]

Then there’s a civil war and you can make her leader

[brittle venture]

failing memel :(

[fresh cedar]

Personally I prefer strasser

[polar jasper]

It's on my channel but TL:DR it makes removing the great depression involve actual input from the player instead of just focuses

Also some politics change such as having primaries to pick who you want

[fresh cedar]

Like build infra or more like Mefo

[brittle venture]

great depression ideal meta timing needs to line up with history /j

[inland bloom]

damn i hate the mefo after a while

[pastel lantern]

Ngl they did insanely good job with der fuhrer mechanics(fuhrer isn’t a fas… word btw i speak German don’t ban me)

[fresh cedar]

Same

[pastel lantern]

Is probably the leader with the highest bonuses

[fresh cedar]

I think the one Swedish monarch gets really OP too

[pastel lantern]

Sweden is boring to play no real strong army

[fresh cedar]

I just like strasser bc you have the monarchist focus tree/europe but the with benefits of fascism (don’t cancel me)

[fresh cedar]

And they have like 3 manpower

[pastel lantern]

Talking realistically about a country that actually gets to use their leader bonuses hitler is probably the strongest leader

[inland bloom]

and then after 3-4 years managing the eastern front 😨

[pastel lantern]

Maybe father of nations is better?

But not sure

[fresh cedar]

Supreme Soviet gets compliance growth doesn’t it?

[fresh cedar]

Anything with compliance growth is super strong yeah

[pastel lantern]

Like you can use Stalin trait to guarantee puppets the allies got claims on after the war and capitulate the allies one by one

But im not sure if in practice it works

[fresh cedar]

I’m not sure, if played well can just eat everyone

[pastel lantern]

-50% guarantee cost I believe it was

[fresh cedar]

Soviets gets pretty cracked

[pastel lantern]

The democratic nations should get at some point strong buffs but they don’t really have strong buffs unless doing shenanigans

[fresh cedar]

They do have one

[pastel lantern]

US needs a rework and the UK kinda needs one too

[fresh cedar]

Democratic build compliance the fastest with occupation laws

[inland bloom]

US is very shitty now

[pastel lantern]

For me compliance is kinda dummy you take something and hit create reichkomissariat 🤣

[fresh cedar]

It’s okay, but is starting to feel dated as is China

[fresh cedar]

I hate Reich koms, always go economically recovery and occupy everything 😂

[inland bloom]

uk has a nice focus tree for now

[pastel lantern]

Well with China you can at least get to war get good generals and stuff

US can’t

[pastel lantern]

Economy of conquest is insanely strong

[inland bloom]

true but u need to have a lot more options for going communist, monarchist,...

[pastel lantern]

Going with the other is just stupid

[fresh cedar]

It definitely is better early game

[inland bloom]

farming exp and in 2-3 years you have the best generals of the game, insane

[pastel lantern]

Do rosenberg focus tree

[fresh cedar]

Local Democracy is one of the best occupations laws

[inland bloom]

i always take that lol haha

[pastel lantern]

Then keep improving that guy

[fresh cedar]

IMO anarchists should get a special occupation law

[pastel lantern]

He gives insane buffs to economy and your tiny puppets

[fresh cedar]

Idk I just don’t like it. I’ve played since the game came out so I think I’m just used to occupying everything

[inland bloom]

yea same

[pastel lantern]

Never went to look in depth but i think rosenberg gives more economic benefits than occupying

Actually im gonna ask somewhere im curious

[fresh cedar]

Probably but border UGGERS

[pastel lantern]

Nvm you better off with just taking everything

Someone said it does not gives a huge benefit

[fresh cedar]

It’s better but not a ton better

Depends on the country too

Like if you have high non core like with Italy or Portugal you want to occupy

[brittle venture]

No

[pastel lantern]

Usually Poland and the Low Countries

Ukraine and places like that

[brittle venture]

Rosenberg gives like 0.5% factory output

Whatever eco it is will be more than that incredibly insignificant buff

[fresh cedar]

Doesn’t it give 10% if maxed

[pastel lantern]

After you improve him it gets higher

[brittle venture]

So?

[pastel lantern]

I think it can be 20% if I’m right

[polar jasper]

Meet goals to lower great depression

[brittle venture]

The local territory would have to be less than 0.5% of your economy (and thats being VERY optimistic)

[fresh cedar]

Bro is shadow boxing. I said like 5 times I never do Reichkommisariats 😂

[polar jasper]

I.e. build infrastructure states, build civs in states

[brittle venture]

Since factory output is the most common eco buff, its also the worst to get bonuses on

It will genuinely, with all love, just be a detriment for absolutely no gain

[pastel lantern]

10% factory output is cool

[brittle venture]

Its alright

[pastel lantern]

More guns

[polar jasper]

All my homies like increased production efficiency cap

[brittle venture]

Reduced output cost is the peak one

[fresh cedar]

But if make 1000 gun, now make 1100 gun which can offset reliability

[cosmic stag]

i am Gonna use the RANGERs unit A TON

[brittle venture]

But it doesnt work like that

It only works like that if youre at 100% factory output base

[fresh cedar]

URRRR, wrong

[brittle venture]

AKA no concentrated no dispersed done

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/sing-sing2-jimmy-jimmy-crystal-buzzer-gif-25515211

[brittle venture]

50% stability

closed eco

Then yes

Its 10% more

[pastel lantern]

The output base is already 100% isn’t it

[fresh cedar]

Same, but probably will still spam Mountaineers depending

[brittle venture]

If any of those are not the case its less than 10%

[cosmic stag]

nice

[brittle venture]

Yes but if you go from 115% to 125% (conc 1) its already less than a 10%, 10% of that would need to be a 11.5% buff

[cosmic stag]

ill mostly use em As ESTONIA

[brittle venture]

So youre not getting 10% more equipment but more like 8%

[fresh cedar]

Germany also gets like another 15-20% from other stuff so the extra 30% is super strong

[brittle venture]

And that gets worse the more buffs you get

[fresh cedar]

Casey is just a contrarian I wouldn’t read too much into it 😂

[pastel lantern]

Im bad at maths but that’s what I also understand

[brittle venture]

god forbid i try to educate someone on how its not significant the more bloated it is

[fresh cedar]

It’s the method not the content

[brittle venture]

The basic principle is that the higher the % number is, the more % buff you need for the actual percentage you are looking for

[fresh cedar]

It does help, especially with equipment that has factory limits like heavy arty. The bonuses make a huge difference

[brittle venture]

If you have 150% base output (conc 2 + 100% stab + trade?) you need a 15% output buff for a 10% increase in output

You are also losing factories from them being a puppet

[fresh cedar]

But if Kayla enjoys playing that way then that’s really up to them 😂

[brittle venture]

Yeah

But kayla asked if its economically better

Which its not

[fresh cedar]

But tbh the factory output only really impacts factory locked equipment

[pastel lantern]

Im just asking which method was better

It was not about how i like to play

[fresh cedar]

Like you’ll feel 10-30% buffs more in heavy arty or railway guns

[pastel lantern]

Ong have you ever made a railway gun 😹

[brittle venture]

Fun fact, railway guns are more based on base factory cap than anything

[pastel lantern]

I never used them

[fresh cedar]

Occupation probably always the best way to go

[pseudo wing]

Railway Guns are for Style, though

[brittle venture]

Because the base cap applies but it cant actually gain efficiency any other way

[cosmic stag]

i am gonna SPAM Rangers

[fresh cedar]

No but if you research the new special project one they give you one for free so kinda worth?

Bc often I run out of stuff to special research

[pastel lantern]

Which special project

[fresh cedar]

The super heavy railway artillery

Or whatever it’s called

It legit shreds forts

[pastel lantern]

Super heavy howitzer maybe?

[fresh cedar]

So even if you have one, can help you break through

[fresh cedar]

No like there’s a new special project for a railway gun

It’s basically a railway gun with double the stats

[pastel lantern]

So if the enemy has no forts it does nothing right?

[fresh cedar]

And if you research the special project it gives one for free

[brittle venture]

Yes thats SH railway

[fresh cedar]

It kinda acts like CAS

[brittle venture]

Its really good and commonly used in mp (mostly made by romania)

It acts like terrain modifiers; it gives a debuff to your enemies

[pastel lantern]

A Romanian Dora lol

[fresh cedar]

It’s so good against forts though. Basically removes half their effectiveness if I remember correctly

So a lvl 10 fort becomes lvl 5

[brittle venture]

It isnt useful in singleplayer as the ai does not crit sufficiently

[fresh cedar]

I have my noob friends make them bc they don’t get the game much yet and carries them 😂

[pastel lantern]

I guess if you wanna go through Frances border instead of attacking the Low Countries 🙌🏻

It works

[fresh cedar]

That used alongside heavy arty legit shreds maginot

[fresh cedar]

Hey Chak, when’s the Ranger 3d art dropping 😂

[pseudo wing]

I'll get Zwirbaum a pink marker soon dw

[polar jasper]

Me waiting for the developer art pack which is just all the pink sharpie drawings

[fresh cedar]

Don’t give them ideas

[polar jasper]

It better be free lol

Or the April Fools update

[rotund cargo]

Well, I know that my 2d graphic skills are amazing, but 3d is I think beyond my capabilities

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully like India, Japan, USA gets rangers

I mean art for em

[pseudo wing]

I mean, that just adds to the novelty of it

the worse the better

you are an ARTIST remember

[fresh cedar]

Will rangers be mechanized at all?

I believe army rangers for the US had mechanized units

Could maybe make them standout a little from the other special forces

Bc marines specialize on Amphibious vehicles. But if Rangers had the option for mechanized could be cool

[cosmic stag]

agreed Joe P

[fresh cedar]

Wish jeeps could somehow be in the game, even if just as support too. (Above are images of army ranger half tracks)

[cosmic stag]

alr nice

[polar jasper]

Armored car:

Not much armor

[fresh cedar]

Jeeps weren’t armored tho

[polar jasper]

But it has the word car in it

[polar jasper]

Last time I checked, steel is used in jeeps and in armor

So it's clearly armored

[fresh cedar]

Imagine jeeps could be used for Recon or Medical support

Like slightly more effective than normal but with higher IC

Idk just thoughts bc these were used with rangers too.

So far the rangers just seem like mountaineers but better in woodlands

[polar jasper]

Hol up, motorized

Split motorized into light and heavy to make people upset

But we get jeeps!

Epic win

[fresh cedar]

More like replace motorized support for medic/recon with jeeps so they cost less and are used more 🙂

[polar jasper]

Epic

[fresh cedar]

I mean other special forces legit add unique support companies. Hell even Military police have motorcycles now. If rangers had their own equivalent for support with jeeps as a less IC option I can’t see how that’s a bad thing

[polar jasper]

Maybe to compensate, trucks are cheaper to research

Or you unlock heavy and light motorized

[fresh cedar]

Would be neat just because every country had an equivalent of them.

Japan, Germany, US

[polar jasper]

How long does it take to research motorized 180 days?

[fresh cedar]

Can’t remember tbh

[inland bloom]

just goated haha

[brittle venture]

200 ish i think

[fresh cedar]

@rotund cargo 🥺

Hear me out

[inland bloom]

just beautiful

[fresh cedar]

Right focused on terrain/tile buffs and arty. Whereas left focuses on mobility and recon. So starts with boosting recon, then jeep recon, and finally mechanized rangers for line

Not gonna happen but my dream 😂

[inland bloom]

we need to make a mod for that lmao

[fresh cedar]

Right

[cosmic falcon]

What do you think the next dev diary will be about?

[mellow laurel]

Where’s the picture with the dates?

[fresh cedar]

Guessing they’re weekly again

[mellow laurel]

Hmm

Roughly 20 characters, “nt + D” then around a dozen characters

Anything interesting that starts with D?

Maybe Divisions? Or possibly Denmark?

[fresh cedar]

Development

Idek

[mellow laurel]

Hmm

“Ship Development + Designer” could fit

[fresh cedar]

Trueee

[mellow laurel]

And considering all the navy stuff currently being shown, a revamp of ship design wouldn’t be unexpected

[thick edge]

We can design the engine, gun, turret, superstructure of ships now

[cosmic falcon]

I hope we still get a Dev Diary next week.

[mellow laurel]

I’d love something like a tonnage value for existing equipment. Then you have to balance all equipment to fit within a given tonnage value.

[fresh cedar]

Should be next Tuesday if I’m correct

Or wed

[thick edge]

That would be cool

But isn’t that the London naval treaty

[fresh cedar]

Basically

[mellow laurel]

Not exactly

The London Naval Treaty sets hard limits on ship tonnage

I’m more thinking a system where you need to add a few hundred tons of displacement(which affects maximum speed and manpower requirements) in order to, say, upgrade a set of three torpedo tube modules from mark twos to mark threes

[brittle venture]

Did you know the london naval treaty disallowed militarizing the pacific?

Which currently is not represented in game

[mellow laurel]

Huh

Yeah

[hollow lion]

Please dont ping the devs

[fresh cedar]

Thought you meant Fraser ngl

[hollow lion]

Ah nvm he was in chat

[fresh cedar]

Bc was talking in general and he responded to me so responded to him

But yeah Zwir was in here that’s why

I don’t ping if they’re not active in a chat in that moment

[fresh cedar]

He was also like typing if that makes sense. Like his name was popping up as typing

[echo blade]

mb

[drifting star]

Yall wonder if the devs read these discord chats

[fresh cedar]

Occasionally

[stable mica]

The news looks a bit like the Doolittle Raid. I'm curious 😊

[long ibex]

This was last version

[cosmic falcon]

I know that.

[smoky night]

More redacted than a SCP foundation document

[fresh cedar]

For real 😂

[pseudo wing]

sometimes, but I always do

You can't escape me, even if I'm offline

[drifting star]

Thank you chak your a real one

Question will there be a war effort this month ?

[pseudo wing]

I'll check to see if we have one on the way, but can't promise anything ofc

[narrow nymph]

about the last dev corner: ||PDX, just hire me||

[fresh cedar]

Sadly they’re rangers not jungle infantry

Even though ik they initially were going to have them as that

[stable tusk]

Fighting in Jungles and on Islands kinda just sounds like Marines to me
I wonder how Rangers will actually be different

Looking at the doctrine it looks less Jungles/Islands and more Forests/Cities

[brittle venture]

Whyd you ruin the art :(

[fresh cedar]

That’s kinda why I said they should make a split branch for them that does mechanized

[narrow nymph]

details

[fresh cedar]

Wouldn’t be amphibious like marines

[narrow nymph]

I want to register that I'm working on samurai too before they steal that idea too

on a serious note, I hope they add a moddable modifier for limits of specific special troops

like "mountainers count 50% for special foces battalions"

currently it's hardcoded

[fresh cedar]

Updated Abd Il-Ilah again to finally have the Hashemite clothes

[narrow nymph]

the game is playable now

[fresh cedar]

Doubt they’d do a whole doctrine but could see them having a support company like recon for it

[fresh cedar]

Was underwhelming as just some nerd in a suit

[narrow nymph]

good night, Joe.P

[disappears in a puff of ninja smoke bomb]

[fresh cedar]

Night, cool doctrines tbh

[smoky night]

Yall tryna get Japan a new focus tree or smth

[brittle venture]

Yeah thats been confirmed

Theyre doing china + japan (confirmed)

[smoky night]

That would be really nice

[inland bloom]

and what about tanu tuva?

[rotund cargo]

Tannu what?

[inland bloom]

A hidden new focus tree in the dlc maybe 🤔

[wet stag]

https://tenor.com/view/tuva-tannu-gif-25912412

[sly palm]

pdx making good changes

yippe

[fresh cedar]

Prob Korea too unless it gets the Palestine treatment

[hollow lion]

Korea existing on the map in 1936 seems far-fetched? Unlike Palestine, or Egypt which still isnt on the map

[polar jasper]

Palestine is in vanilla hoi4

At least the mandate

[hollow lion]

I know

[harsh hull]

Lack of punctuation there

[polar jasper]

Ah

[harsh hull]

[Unlike Palestine, or Egypt (which still isnt on the map)]

[polar jasper]

I read it differently now

[harsh hull]

But honestly, yeah, give Korea some content, if Japan goes ahistorical and releases it

There are so few big mods that don't have Korea already controlled by a foreign power

Someone has to give them something eventually

[polar jasper]

Eh, not much need for Korea

Except maybe some skeleton content

Since they were annexed since 1910 I think?

[fresh cedar]

Palestine is but Egypt needs to be

Egypt legit was a sovereign nation 1936

Korea would be super interesting though

Joseon Kingdom 🥴

[long ibex]

Wait to Expansion Pass 3 (allies USA&UK match with north Africa and Mediterranean scenario)

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah I’m not expecting it till a North African rework

Which would probably add Libya, French North Africa etc

[thick edge]

maybe Korea will be the first country with content as a releaseable?

[sharp spade]

I want to see manchuko get a update

[severe canyon]

Honestly

I hope korea gets a path in Manchukou

Since largely the Korean Liberation Army had their efforts fighting japanese troops in manchuria.

With having actually victories.

A korean path for manchukuo where its basically the path is to fight japan and liberate korea would be interesting. I don't think Paradox would give korea being actual state. Since korea was annexed by the japanese.

[severe canyon]

Unfortunately this is due to history.

[wooden wyvern]

was it?
i thought it was just a puppet of uk

[wooden wyvern]

if they ever add stuff to releasables korea is prob the first pick yea

[fresh cedar]

In 1936 the puppet status ended though the UK effectively had military access and units in the Suez

Any alt history tree could easily change that

[hollow lion]

Just military occupation as only pressure point?

[fresh cedar]

Well it’s sovereignty was kind of stipulated by the Anglo Egyptian treaty

Similar to Iraq

[hollow lion]

Some sort of occupation tier could apply to Iraq and Iran in WW2 where they arent trying too hard to influence things but are making sure they dont suddenly swap to the enemy side

[fresh cedar]

But I could see this being easily done away with

[fresh cedar]

So similar to Holland or just like puppets

[hollow lion]

Similar to Holland?

I mean like a puppet tier with barely any effects

[fresh cedar]

I meant how Germany and the UK can influence the Netherlands. And that influence effectively determines their path

Could see that also applying to Egypt

Where maybe it sides with Italy or the UK, or just does its own thing

(Own thing being balancing the two)

[hollow lion]

ah like that

except in Egypt I assume the Brits would start with some influence points and the independence/Italian faction would have to catch up

[fresh cedar]

So like the 1936 treaty basically gave Egypt control of its military, told all UK soldiers to leave except those protecting the Suez Canal, and they assumed full government control too. On top of that, the treaty was very unpopular in Egypt and was done away with in 1951

If anything, feel like the UK would have to fight hard to maintain it

[fresh cedar]

I’d say starts with influence but gradually loses it

[wooden wyvern]

thats really interesting
did egypt own sudan and south sudan too or were its borders the same as modern day egypt

[fresh cedar]

As far as I know the two were under the same colonial control so I imagine Egypt would’ve retained control over it.

Now I should read a book on it haha

[hollow lion]

Sudan was a joint British-Egyptian colony

[wooden wyvern]

thats really interesting lol\

did egypt join the war of its own accord or did it just join the allies whenever italy invaded?

[stable tusk]

Egypt was considered formally neutral even during the Italian invasion
The Egyptian government didn't declare war on the Axis until February of 1945

[wooden wyvern]

ohh ok so like an iran situation

alr

[brittle venture]

British garrisons were in whats nowadays darfur and south sudan

[brittle venture]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/kLFPk1nzpk

Is this a new teaser for the upcoming hoi4 visual overhaul?

[stable tusk]

What? No ofc not
This is the teaser for Hoi5

[inland bloom]

a very goodmorning from belgium

[long ibex]

From last dev corner... "Nothing to see here". YOUR BET?

[brittle venture]

Thats just gonna be the new visual for when theres no content somewhere, obviously

[proven vapor]

I think we will get hoi5 before gta5!!

[gusty saddle]

Really fun

[fresh cedar]

Certain tiles will have buffs now to make them more strategic.

I’m guessing Pearl Harbor will also be one

[drifting star]

You know what would be cool a way to make the city names match the language of occupiers ie if Turkey takes London it takes a Turkish spelling and so forth

[stable tusk]

Well it works for some countries but I don't think Paradox will bother adding stuff like Turkish London
There is stuff if Sweden takes Finland and Ireland takes North Ireland (renaming Londonderry to Derry)

[lament saddle]

So with the new carrier mechanics, does this mean that a carrier fleet can be set to avoid a naval battle and just use its onboard planes to raid the enemy fleet?

like a proper carrier battle of the pacific?

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey could be a cheap but cool dlc

[fresh cedar]

Think they’ll also be able to hunt subs

[drifting star]

How about a new schizo monarchist Japan path , I’m thinking empire of the heavens

[hollow coral]

Too schizo

Aint no one going to start claiming they are the empire of heaven

[fresh cedar]

Japan will probably be fine. If anything China would have the schizo ones

Hoping they allow you to Balkanize Japan to play as diff pronounces/shogunates

[wooden wyvern]

That would be interesting but unlike germany japan was unified like 300 years before the game starts so idk how they would do it

[wooden wyvern]

Wasnt the taiping rebellion literally just that

[hollow coral]

fair enough

but i dont think the japanese are schizo enough to do that

[wooden wyvern]

They arent

[drifting star]

The shogun is immortal

[wooden wyvern]

Closest thing they had in recent history was hideyoshi

[hollow coral]

anarchist japanese and chinese paths

[wooden wyvern]

Typically china is where all the wild stuff goes down

[hollow coral]

that would be cool maybe just for japan though

[wooden wyvern]

I always forget anarchy is a thing in this game

[hollow coral]

instead of qing monarchist path for roc i think empire of china monarchist path is more fitting

[hollow coral]

underused subideology

and the second time they used it was for ethiopia

[wooden wyvern]

Qing path should be left to manchukuo

[hollow coral]

goddamn ethiopia

[wooden wyvern]

Just spice up the tree and itll be fine

[hollow coral]

ethiopia just shouldnt have a communist path honestly

[wooden wyvern]

Wait what ive literally never heard of this

[hollow coral]

yeah you can become anarcho communist if you go communist ethiopia

[wooden wyvern]

Bro what

Ima be honest

[hollow coral]

manchukuo honestly has a very balanced tree but more historical flavour and a bit of a his is definitely needed

[wooden wyvern]

I think the biggest problem with most focus trees is the paths just default to some generic fascist or democracy or communist regime

I wish they would utilize more history thats unique to each country

[hollow coral]

hoi4 branding every far right party as fascist

[wooden wyvern]

Its why i like all monarchist paths

[wooden wyvern]

I played it once and was surprised how playable it was yea

[hollow coral]

manchukuo rework should demote puyi to a national spirit

[wooden wyvern]

Really?

Huh

Idk much abt how manchukuo ran

[hollow coral]

puyi didnt rlly have that much power honestly

[wooden wyvern]

I think they should just have like two leader slots ima be honest

Or like

Rework advisors or smth

[hollow coral]

goe is so weird cuz they have king of afghanistan as a spirit but the king of iraq is a national spirit

[wooden wyvern]

I think in kr the monarch or puppet takes leader slot but theres a prime minister or whatever slot where advisors are

[wooden wyvern]

Yea i knew that but i thought manchukuo in general didnt

[hollow coral]

hirohito should stay as leader but advisors rotate between prime minister

[hollow coral]

well yeah it was a puppet state

[wooden wyvern]

I think so yea

I also just like having my leader be monarch but thats just a me bias

[lilac vessel]

Why would RoC go monarchist, like maybe a warlord but everyone hates monarchism in the RoC, closest would be a non monarchist empire

[hollow coral]

if they add a wangjingwei coup path they could introduce the empire of china as a path as wangjingwei was close friends with yuan shikais son(heir to the empire of china)

[lilac vessel]

Yeah but even then wjw is super anti monarchist

Also no need for a coup, just have Chiang die in Xian

[hollow coral]

Im not here to debate that

Just saying that would be a more fitting path for the monarchist larpers

[lilac vessel]

I mean what do you have manchu and warlords for?

RoC itself can get loads of non aligned paths that are non monarchist

[hollow coral]

What is your point here

[river kestrel]

how do you get rid of missions from mussolini

[hollow coral]

Get rid of mussolini

[river kestrel]

what are the side effects

[hollow coral]

You lose mussolini

I dont think you can actually get rid of them

[river kestrel]

oh

even if i dont have dlcs, should i balakanize ethiopia or no?

[brittle venture]

you can

alt hist paths

theres like 3 fascist options or something

[brittle venture]

its better without BBA

they get more factories

[river kestrel]

oh

awesome

[hollow coral]

Get rid of them with mussolini in charge

[fresh cedar]

Should’ve had Bonita Mussolini

[silent flame]

anyone know why it's making copies of my tank design? Not doing it myself, just keeps on showing up. Messing with my tank conversion

[gritty pine]

You've got research being completed that creates a new variant, or you've upgraded your military industrial organization.

You can uncheck the auto upgrade in the designer to stop that behavior.

[brittle venture]

Because of MIO auto upgrades

Turn them off if you dont want that

[silent flame]

If I turn it off do I lose the MIO buffs I research?

not research but like get

[brittle venture]

Just turn off auto upgrade at the bottom

And only do it manually

[silent flame]

👍

[brittle venture]

It will always create a new model when upgrading traits

So for conversion that sucks

And youd like to minimize it

[silent flame]

Ok bril where's that auto upgrade tab?

[brittle venture]

Just a lil check at the bottom of the MIO upgrades

I can go in game to show you?

[silent flame]

ah nvm found it

cheers

[inland bloom]

damn she is hot

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[digital pumice]

original one is hot too

[inland bloom]

ahh the femboy version

[fresh cedar]

Exactly

That one was apparently done with Chat GPT. Looks excellent though

[inland bloom]

i have a crush on chat gpt now

[fresh cedar]

Hey, Mecha Hitler here

[inland bloom]

is there a girl version of churchill?

[fresh cedar]

The guy is working on all axis first I think

[inland bloom]

damn thats crazy haha

[fresh cedar]

I saw Hitler and it looked like a drag queen

[inland bloom]

I always use a femboy hitler mod 😂😂

[fresh cedar]

Oh god

[inland bloom]

it makes him less angrier

[drifting star]

They should change how deployment works

The idea that you have to deploy to land connected to capital is insane

[brittle venture]

Non local recruitment is silly in general

[drifting star]

Can you imagine being recruited near a front and being told you have to go to the other side of the world as though there are no training stations except there

[brittle venture]

oh and you can magically be deployed in 20 days

[drifting star]

It takes 30 days to get there

[dusk mist]

And while training you go into the ether

Completely disappear from the face of the earth until it's convenient to return

[drifting star]

When will next diary come out?

[devout mesa]

I thought I remember it was the 4th, 8th and 12th but I don't know cuz I haven't been able to find an updated roadmap

[stable tusk]

Tomorrow

[devout mesa]

Do you have the roadmap?

[devout mesa]

Thank you 🙏

[flat wadi]

What was july 29th update

[cosmic stag]

i wonder what TODAYs DD will reveal

[stable tusk]

Aerohydrodynamics

[drifting star]

Wonder what the + dev means

[cosmic stag]

im wondering that too m8

hopefully its GOOD

[flat wadi]

The heck is that

I had a choke reading it

[brittle venture]

New update today yipee

[slow viper]

yass new updates coming soon yesssss

[flat wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-taysolace-taylor-swift-happy-gif-7514986061263343743

[maiden sierra]

This isn't the latest roadmap, they crossed out all the dates on the latest one

[brittle venture]

Well i hope its today

[mental onyx]

It's around this time right?

[inland bloom]

i cant wait, it will be a good dlc, i am sure about that

[pseudo wing]

There shouldn't be a Dev Corner today as far as I aware, some scheduling has shifted this month

[brittle venture]

Ty chak

[inland bloom]

thanks for the information Chak 🙏

[pseudo wing]

of course, I wouldn't want you waiting around for something only for it to not show that day

[inland bloom]

i dont mind waiting haha, just happy that there will come a new DLC focused on asia, it will be the second best DLC that will come out in my opinion for now haha

[fresh cedar]

Dang we really need an updated roadmap then 😂

Tbh this discord may really benefit from having the roadmaps posted in a dedicated channel

[fresh cedar]

When’s the new roadmap drop Chak

Plox

[pseudo wing]

the master post (with all links to the dev corners) has the updated one. Its usually the second post updated after the first initial post where it is changed

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/all-2025-developer-corners.1784328/

[fresh cedar]

Thank you very much, had no idea! :0

Guessing they have to be somewhat soon since there’s atleast 6 in August

So 1-2 a week

[brittle venture]

Average*

[fresh cedar]

Average would be 1.5 😍😍😍

[brittle venture]

Yeah but what if they drop 7 in a week

[fresh cedar]

Stonks?

[mellow laurel]

Probably

[thick edge]

I wouldn’t be complaining

[brittle venture]

Yeah but nothing else

Final week if august

[mellow laurel]

Don’t they usually drop on Tuesdays?

[muted fjord]

are we getting a dev diary today?

[mellow laurel]

The possibility is above zero

[fresh cedar]

Yeah, but have on other days before

[brittle venture]

No

Chak already said it wont today

[brittle venture]

You can rely on chak

[mellow laurel]

Okay

I was unaware

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

😂

[fresh cedar]

Usually but just checked and some have been on Thursday too

[brittle venture]

Well hes more reliable than me but thats a low bar

[twilit jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-man-sad-family-guy-gif-2009655089968838499

[inland bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/traurig-1-gif-16459976964482795428