latest-updates

[wise oxide]

cringe trash

imagine if it costs money

instead of fixing and improving the game they add more features that nobody uses

6,99€ who is paying?

remember that one song being a dlc? thats hilariously pathetic that song was already in the game and free to use. i used to glaze paradox but they are too greedy and they dont care about us if they listened they would have more money and players

mods is the only reason i play this game bc they do better content for free

[hollow coral]

Not saying i support the practise but its optional content

You can still enjoy the game without it

[rocky escarp]

Gonna guess the Allied Armour Unit Pack is equally bad value at the same price if we apply the same principles across all DLCs

[hollow coral]

Gfx and sounds do not affect the game most of the time

Unlike the content dlcs which usually add something new to play with

[thick edge]

I actually don’t know why u can buy music packs

Like

Spotify is free

With the same songs and more

[hollow lion]

I like the convenience

The default volume of the songs is quite loud, thats my only complaint

[dense gale]

i mean the cosmetic doesnt do anything that changes gameplay

its just there if u want to support the devs

or think it looks cool

[rocky escarp]

44 in that pack vs 40 prototype vehicles

Could've expected a larger discrepancy

[brittle venture]

Spotify has ads

Hoi4 radio doesnt have ads

[dense gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abUs_wRxnVw

🥰

[fading walrus]

this is why I use Itunes

[dense gale]

i mean u buy albums on itune tho

not really the same thing

[fading walrus]

Itunes plan?

[dense gale]

thats apple music

[fading walrus]

ah mb

anyways

why are Strategic bombers useless in hoi4

when in real life they grounded Germany's industry to powder

and depleted the Eastern Front of air cover

[hoary siren]

Actually kind of broken right now

[merry magnet]

ig bc ist easy to repair thungs like industry and its just wasted mils

[fading walrus]

Wait really?

[hoary siren]

Shreds through factories

Yeah

[fading walrus]

Heavy bomber imperial germany coming right up

[hoary siren]

Mp servers had to start banning them again like 6 or so months ago

[fresh cedar]

Legit could just make your own MP3 playlist and upload to hoi4 mods

[hollow lion]

IIRC theres a tool now to make your playlists into a mod

[astral atlas]

Wouldnt it be cool if you can reduce the amount of civilians or atleast the manpower from an area with bombing or active battles in the area, i mean its not real people so why bother caring abt it

[dense gale]

Because something something war crimes

But than u could do it in Vic 3 lol

[brittle venture]

Is there?

Damn my game just crashed when loading out of my 1960 save 😔 pdx pls fix /j

[hollow lion]

Funnily enough IIRC the modding effect to do that is bugged

Id almost wonder if they keep it bugged on purpose so you cant commit warcrimes

[brittle venture]

Its bugged in vanilla too btw

Not modding only

[hollow lion]

Yeh I just assume vanilla doesnt use population reduction much

[brittle venture]

The "population" can be inaccurate on (mostly small/tiny) states

And just be plainly wrong if you hover over it

Where it may say like 70 people but be 250

[cobalt jay]

The problem with strat bombers in SP is that the AI is incapable of efficiently using its IC against a remotely competent player, combined with the fact that the war participation you get got capped at 1000 a few years back means that at least in SP, strat bombers are always an IC loss

But in MP servers it can be absolutely devastating even if you don't bomb anything

[drifting star]

Suggestion : the join allies war is all put into one pop up called “ call for War” that cleans up the UI when you get 3000 + pop ups as the allies

[fresh cedar]

Brought that up years ago and the mods got super mad at me and threatened to ban me if I mentioned it again. Suffice to say they don’t want that ingame

[normal plume]

Yes please bro

[astral atlas]

😭

lame mods

the whole point of world wars

are casualties

including civilains

[rocky escarp]

Having to reckon with depletion of civilian workforce is an interesting consideration for home defence (although not really something currently represented in HOI IV), but with every defender is an attacker and no one's gonna be happy about offensive gameplay being capable of satisfying certain sensibilities.

[unreal ermine]

Hi, after the update of the launcher I cant get the game working

can I download the previous one?

[cobalt jay]

I see we got an update today

[brittle venture]

Is that it? Lol

[cobalt jay]

Yeah that is the whole changelog

[pseudo wing]

It was a hotfix to address that issue, since its a pretty big one considering the recent MIO changes

[thick edge]

I’m guessing the update won’t mess with saves from before?

[pseudo wing]

realistically it shouldn't, no

if it does that'd be weird

also, I am still going through war effort type stuff, so if you guys have small changes you'd like to see/ bug reports that are minor for me to take a look at, please do send em' my way

(here)

[thick edge]

I submit bug reports through you or the forum right?

[pseudo wing]

I am not the bug report forums, file them there lol

[thick edge]

Alr

[brittle venture]

chak why is it so hard to get manpower as germany sm

smh*

[pseudo wing]

its because you made too many anime pillows

[brittle venture]

also chris did have a bug yesterday where after a lobby closes in mp the save doesnt save properly

[pseudo wing]

define doesnt save properly

[brittle venture]

as in the map was just gone

save didnt fully save

parts of the file were missing

ill send u the save here so you can see

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348671322749800489/1374217414039834717/USA_1942_04_21_02.hoi4?ex=682d3f33&is=682bedb3&hm=67d72809e25459e26da55b55267521223a286bc2adebf76c5b2aa7df53c7da78&

all mods are compatible with vanilla loading iirc

[thick edge]

Looked like this

[cobalt jay]

I understand that Chak, its just I expected a bigger update

[pseudo wing]

there'll be an update in the future ofc, but I get you

[fresh cedar]

1. Ability to save MIO upgrade paths. Can be tedious selecting the same upgrades every game.

2. Ability to turn off triggered songs. Like Denmark breaking free or Italian civil war. Like the songs but don’t like them hijacking my music.

3. Indochina, West Africa formables.

4. French Empire colonial formable comparable to Spanish empire where if it occupies former colonies, can core them. (Would be a single focus checking for occupied lands)

I’m not sure if that’s what you mean by small, but feel some could be

[brittle venture]

Allied speeches dlc my behated

[brittle venture]

Also france can already core all their colonies

[fresh cedar]

The RNG probability of it coring its colonies is extremely low and not remotely similar to what I proposed

It’s legit like a 5-10% chance you core all of your colonies. Meanwhile if Spain occupies their former, they can core them all getting 170 mil core manpower by uniting the Hispanic identity

I’d want the French empire to have something similar for Quebec and the Louisiana territory

[fresh cedar]

I had to disable that DLC

[brittle venture]

5-10% per btw xd

[fresh cedar]

It’s aids and isn’t fun. Germany can unite Europe, Brazil South America, yet France gets RNG hell to absorb like 1/10th the manpower

[drifting star]

Question anyone know of a mod that creates British protectorates ?

Similar to rk+

Also anyone know some mods to expand burgundy and Hashemite Iraq

[ocean spoke]

uninstall paradox launher

[cobalt jay]

MFW I am playing Japan and A Warning to Japan starts playing

[drifting star]

I have never played with sound on

[potent silo]

what changed to MIOs?

[hollow lion]

Newly unlocked traits are now auto-applied to produced equipment

[jovial flower]

wait does it also counts towards ships?

[hollow lion]

I assume

[teal talon]

In a future update I want the ability to customize national anthems

Like

It will serve no real value but can expose players to really cool music from those countries

[spice coral]

they need to add more economic stuff

tariffs, expand the existing bond system, add factors that affect aggregate demand and supply such as consumption, investment, balance of trade and etc. add the ability to vary interest rates, invest government spending and take monetary aswell as fiscal policy action

that’s just what they can do with macro

[polar jasper]

If I wanted this, I'd play Vic 3

I want my war game, not eco simulator

[hearty blade]

totally agree with jonathan

hoi4 is meant to be a war spreadsheet game

it has always been that and it'll always be that

vic 3 has a shit war system but thats because their bread and butter is running an economy

[spice coral]

a simplified version of that would add variety to the game. we all turn to mods for a more complex version of vanilla, why not give vanilla a little more flavour - doesn’t even have to be as in depth as most big mods

a few decisions or a simple dedicated ui tab would do

[spice coral]

just affecting multipliers of stability, production, civs, mils, etc

[brittle venture]

The american

[brittle venture]

This is just false

And biased from a single viewpoint

[pulsar ore]

I'm brand new to the game and have some basic knowledge, would anyone be down to hope in a vc and coach me for a little lmao

[hollow lion]

If people dont touch the mechanic Ig the music would be a bit wasted

Although if a mod just let you pick Ig it shouldnt be that hard to add if you just use Youtube recordings (which PDX probably cant)

[spice coral]

not american btw

[spice coral]

could you explain how it’s biased

[brittle venture]

because not everyone believes the same way and base game is a baseline to mods, if the mechanics are too bloated every mod is forced to use it, while your idea of a system can already be implemented by mods

[spice coral]

wdym not everyone believes the same way? doesn’t that make literally 99% of suggestions biased. that’s also not what biased means

yk the mods can just remove the system and reinput their thing if they wanted to, like i said, it could be as simple as a few decisions or a small ui panel that only affects multipliers

[fresh cedar]

Might submit a forum post for the Ho 229 😂

[dusk mist]

yeah, I want more depth for war, not silly things like buying the world with the East India Company. It's a war game.

[polar jasper]

I prefer games that maintain the vanilla game systems as otherwise the game chugs heavily and becomes bloated

I ignore the economy system in mods 90% of the time

[brittle venture]

Yk im sure theres a way to construct things super fast in mildawn

Havent figured how to make it take less long than 5-10 years because i never cared

[polar jasper]

You play MD?

[brittle venture]

Twice

[polar jasper]

Red Dusk is 10x better imo

[brittle venture]

Or thrice

[brittle venture]

Well yeah but not as bloated 💔

[polar jasper]

It is millenium dawn, but it still has the Soviets

[brittle venture]

Positive night attack tho

Red dusk i played once

Was alright

[polar jasper]

I have to scrap my playthough, they just updated the mod again and it wasn't save compatiable

[fresh cedar]

Exactly how I play too

[fresh cedar]

Miss the original Millenium Dawn which was basically just a modern version of vanilla

[spice coral]

you can still get it

[spice coral]

my favourite mod

[rocky escarp]

Got a point about war bonds being a bit of a silly mechanic as a mere political power decision, and consumer goods factor just being a 'balancing' thing rather than representing any real consumption

But I don't see what the point of adding monetary mechanics is to a game design that is fine abstracting everything as a command economy.

Maybe someone is starving for the exact war economy set-up of the USA but most don't need economical immersion for the game.

[rocky escarp]

macroeconomics that demand player micromanagement if we're not careful

[rain thunder]

real

[mental onyx]

Did a random update just dropped? my version is currently 1.16.8

[pseudo wing]

another small hotfix for some AI behaviour and a MIO inconsistency

I've edited the Steam news post with it already, but there should also be a forums post about it

[polar jasper]

No way, a tiny update that wasn't a mod updating

[brittle venture]

MIO updates break all overhaul mods lol

Itd be nice to save that for larger patches in the future maybe?

[pseudo wing]

this one was for a regression where when you open th MIO page, it could apply them to other things that shouldn't be able to have em'

[polar jasper]

Wonder if they fixed the FV4005 not being on the Centurion chassis

[pseudo wing]

so that you can't break MP games with it

[polar jasper]

Most important pressing matter in the game clearly

[pseudo wing]

I saw that they marked it verified, though I am not sure when the next War Effort patch is coming out

[hollow lion]

Isnt that the tank that would roll over if fired while the barrel wasnt pointing straight forward?

[polar jasper]

Idk, funny war thunder tank

Possibly

[thick edge]

I think

[polar jasper]

When are recoilless rifles and a 2nd light high velocity gun going to be added to the game

[thick edge]

But also to be fair it’s turret was the size of a car

[polar jasper]

I need my templates to be accurate

[polar jasper]

You know it is big when there is a full sized door to enter the turret

[thick edge]

Imagine the sound of it firing

But inside the tank

[polar jasper]

Just saying, there needs to be the equivalent of a medium cannon that can be put on a light tank chassis without needing a fixed superstructure. Like a 1943 tech or something

When they adding 1944 and 1945 arty tech

[polar jasper]

What sound

Ever since I fired it I hear no sounds

[thick edge]

Exactly

But when u hear a loud sound that makes u go deaf

Do u like hear the entire sound

Or the first few seconds then deaf

Or no sound

[polar jasper]

You would probably here a massive explosion and pop

As your ear drum bursts

[thick edge]

🔥

Sounds fun

[polar jasper]

Meanwhile the war thunder Soviet 120mm

clink

[thick edge]

120mm my beloved

(27 second reload)

[brittle venture]

Its so good as someone who doesnt know how to play the game well

Those guns one shot

[thick edge]

I love the boomsticks

It’s usually a one click

[crisp mountain]

rate? (late 1940)

[drifting star]

Not bad

[fresh cedar]

Best way to beat the Soviets tbh

[fresh cedar]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/ho-229-was-never-added-to-hoi4-as-originally-intended.1757677/

[cedar trout]

just dare to say hoi4 players are sane after doing this

https://youtu.be/oVIVWosI9S8?si=giJICnid6UzFmQ26

[stable tusk]

Oh hey, its Kris, my favourite Romanian
Shame he got rid of the $50 world conquests tho

[thick edge]

Something like this is suprisingly easy

[cobalt jay]

Germany WC
Only gets it in 1980

Yep that is what we call a skill issue folks

[lapis dragon]

To be fair it was the whole world at once and I think armored car only

[cobalt jay]

Germany WC should be done by the late 40s maybe early 50s if you are inexperienced

[lapis dragon]

I know, just trying to give it a bit of a defence

[brittle venture]

Dont, hes just bad

[thick edge]

I mean it’s fun watching him and that’s enough for me

[brittle venture]

I was forced to watch a video of his and didnt like it therefore hes worse than hitler

[fresh cedar]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/ho-229-was-never-added-to-hoi4-as-originally-intended.1757677/. How do you all feel about the Ho 229 being forgotten?

[polar jasper]

Big sad

[fresh cedar]

Honestly same

[celest breach]

What did mao mean by this

[drifting star]

He must not like the Greeks

[celest breach]

true
he cant like the bulgarians
noone likes bulgarians
he just hates greeks

[drifting star]

Everyone knows that Greeks are really just self hating turks

[stable tusk]

Greeks are all Turks and Turks are all Greeks

[drifting star]

No turks are all citizens of the holy Russian empire

[past sentinel]

Whatever makes you happy at this point 💔

[cedar trout]

huh

[fresh cedar]

Apparently it’s in the game for some people and not others

[drifting star]

How so

[fresh cedar]

On the forum post I made, some people said it’s in the game for them, and one showed it being a 3d model form the game start available for the BF109 and beyond. Yet for me, it is never available no matter the technology researched or even with every dlc

[polar jasper]

Interesting

[fresh cedar]

So it seems inconsistent

[polar jasper]

Do I need an Axis plane pack too

[fresh cedar]

I own that pack and it doesn’t show me for me

I wonder if it shows up if you bought GDR individually but not for gamepass owners

[polar jasper]

Maybe I should check for my prototype vehicles collection

I thought it would be a medium airframe

[fresh cedar]

Idk, I own everything and genuinely checked every plane 3d model from interwar to supersonic and it wasn’t there

Ho-229 is a fighter ig

[polar jasper]

Heavy fighters exist

To be fair, the FV4005 was not able to be put on a Centurion chassis until they fix it

[fresh cedar]

Idk in the screenshot the dude can see it just within a generic unedited bf109

[polar jasper]

Bug already confirmed

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it shows for some and not others and idk why

[polar jasper]

It shows for those who praise John Paradox

We didn't praise enough

[fresh cedar]

Feels that way

Thought me buying every dlc would be enough 😭

[fresh cedar]

Maybe having any mods enabled somehow disables it? Idek

[polar jasper]

I play vanilla mostly

Like fully vanilla

It is either no mods or a total conversion

[fresh cedar]

Same I only have graphical mods

Like I play Ironman 24/7

Only mods I have slightly change flags, party names, focus icons etc

[fresh cedar]

Kinda weird honestly that only some can see it.

[polar jasper]

What if they forgot they had a mod on lol

[fresh cedar]

Imagine 💀

That would be gross because they were being condescending about it 😭

[cobalt jay]

@fresh cedar I have Ho229

[fresh cedar]

Wonder why some have it and some don’t.

[cobalt jay]

What is your fighter 3?

[fresh cedar]

A biplane. For me I have 16 fighter models and none of them are it.

[polar jasper]

Interesting, I have it

No plane packs or anything aside from GDR and Prototype Vehicles

I remember there being a different model though for 1936 fighters or am I insane

[thick edge]

The paradox gods dislike Joe

That sucks

[fresh cedar]

Dang I just found out why I wasn’t seeing it.

Had the mod enabled “Lamps equipment icons” which is an Ironman compatible mod but since it adds icons, I believe it actually overwrites other models and even prevented it from appearing for me

[jaunty nymph]

dont bypass the filter

[surreal mason]

Otay

[drifting star]

Bro what

[astral pagoda]

does anyone know of an ethnolinguistic world map i can use to draw the borders of asia, africa, and the americas? europe is done, i wanna work on asia now

[trim gorge]

.

[wispy flare]

when come dlc for USA and japan china?

[hollow coral]

Usa isnt getting a dlc

Nor is a japan or china dlc confirmed but highly speculated

[astral pewter]

Pacific rework is almost 100% the next dlc

[wispy flare]

usa need dlc bro

the now focus tree is sh*t

[cobalt jay]

Nah we will get historically accurate Polish states

[coral drift]

Needs more stuffs here and there instead of rework.

[astral pewter]

This is higher priority

2nd is albania dlc

[wispy flare]

bro hoi4 is global game u say paradox no have stuffs for game?

[coral drift]

I want a proper disengagement mechanic for the Philippines, a more aggresive anticolonial Roosevelt, or coring the Yukon Corridor.

[fallen zenith]

Nah. Tannu tuva

[astral pewter]

Albania and Tannu tuva are the most deserving for dlc

[wispy flare]

nope

[astral pewter]

Ok then who needs a dlc more?

No one, albania and tannu tuva need it most

[brittle venture]

If its another european dlc i will commit crimes

God forbid its a US dlc

[astral pewter]

I already have

And im not serious about albania and tannu tuva needing dlc. The pacific and east asia need it way more

[wispy flare]

mayors and upper minors

[astral pewter]

Albania needs the focus tree more

Albania is the greatest nation in hoi4

[wispy flare]

why broo?

[astral pewter]

Albania is the best nation in hoi4

[wispy flare]

1 reason

[astral pewter]

Its albania

[wispy flare]

albania is just annexed be italy

[astral pewter]

You got the pyramid schemes, fort guy. King zog. And albania

[astral pewter]

To be fair, I am mostly kiding with what I was saying. But albania having auchlus mechanics against italy would be kinda cool.

[wispy flare]

I don't know the history of Albania because it is about as small as my native country (Slovakia), so the only thing that could happen to Albania is the Anchluss and make some kingdom in the Balkans like during the Greek Byzantine Empire, but a little smaller. I don't know if the developers would like to make a reconstruction of Hoi4 in a more historical and modern way, so there are mods for that, but in general, it would be possible to make a non-historical Hoiko single player without mods after World War I, even if it would be useless since there are mods. But I would rather welcome some new mechanics and DLCs that will be needed for the states that are usually played, Italy, Germany, Britain, France, Japan, one country, another, China, America, or complete the entire South America with the DLC that is already there.

[astral pewter]

Have you ever heard of the idea of greater albania?

[wispy flare]

Nope

[astral pewter]

Dang

Look it up

[wispy flare]

interesting

[lapis dragon]

I've played both of those before for some reason. Although I actually kind of enjoyed Albania

[severe canyon]

Luxembourg:

[astral pewter]

MID

Luxembourg is the most mid nation of all time

Over hyped

[severe canyon]

Andorra should also be added

[hollow coral]

You do realise the man the guns dlc has to be integrated first

[simple valve]

japan

their current tree sucks

[astral pewter]

The historical tree isnt the worst ever

[jolly wasp]

I bet instead of a Japan or China rework Parodox is just gonna charge 20 bucks for a Bolivian tree or some shit

[hollow coral]

Never happened before

[stable tusk]

If the historical tree isn't the worst ever and 2/3 of the alt history completely sucks, yeah I'd say they need a rework

[astral pewter]

100%

[hallow pivot]

Guys what field marshal of Germany should I use for Easter front and what for Western as Germany?

[woven aspen]

Ngl there should be a balkan trees rework

Turkey gets one too

Albania bulgaria yugo and romania

[wooden vortex]

i can get along with albainia yugo and romania for sure

[woven aspen]

Yugo tree is absolute ass

Albania doesnt have one

Romania is mid

[wooden vortex]

yes

[woven aspen]

Maybe even dissasembling yugo will get croatia montenegro bosnia serbia kosovo their trees

[wooden vortex]

sure

yugoslavia definitely needs a rework though

[icy nimbus]

brazil needs a rework

[wooden vortex]

add man the guns into the main game

[hollow coral]

nah it can still be milked

yall stop asking for usa rework its not happening yet🙏

[thin tide]

I have to imagine that Japan/China/Siam will be next. Might have the phillippines in it as well, who knows about anything else in the region.

[polar jasper]

It already had 2

Let other countries have 2 reworks first before it gets its third

[hollow coral]

i want to bet on a japan and china dlc then a southeast asia countrypack

[polar jasper]

Waking the Tiger 2

Electric Boogaloo

Now with more oofed Chinese civilians

[hollow coral]

if they give a qing monarchist path for china i might crashout

an empire of china path is much better

i imagine a new china focus tree to be
Democratic path
,pan asianis
spreading democracy in asia

Chiang path split between
.historical path
.fascist blue shirts path

Wang jingweis coup
.working with japanese and forming pan asia
.Empire of china path since the son of yuan shikai was friends with wang jingwei

[wooden wyvern]

isnt that already a thing

[hollow coral]

read again ig

[wooden wyvern]

yea im not getting it

unless youre talking about modded or smth

but scrolling up that doesnt really make sense

[brittle venture]

For future update

[hollow coral]

I meant qing monarchist path for specifically republic of china

[wooden wyvern]

oh i see

i forgot the qing was for manchukuo

yea i think having another focus tree for qing would be a waste

maybe a decision like how czechia has austria hungary but i think non aligned tree should be smth else yea

[hollow coral]

Empire of china would be preferable

[brittle venture]

Why dont embargoes affect the international market but only trade? Devs pls fix

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Hey Chak sorry for the ping, just wanted to say that we found out why the Ho 229 wasn’t showing up for many people. Apparently any mod that changes icons/equipment names can hide models, even if Ironman compatible. So one was hiding it for me and a few others

[pseudo wing]

I have also found a bug in relation to it with BBA, so not entirely on you

[fresh cedar]

I have a few friends and know others who it happened to as well

Bc someone said they were missing BBA stuff yeah

And it turns out it was for the same reason

I just never considered that 2d art would prevent 3d art from existing

[pseudo wing]

I dont believe it should, but there were inconsistencies with it, I made the devs aware of it and they're looking into it

[fresh cedar]

It’s gotta be something with the name pathing to files getting it rerouted/prevented by mods

Definitely weird. Sorry I had misinterpreted it as the model not being in game. And I appreciate you pursuing that despite me being wrong

[pseudo wing]

it also might be the designation, seeing as some sources say it was a fighter, while others say it was a bomber

there must be some incorrect file pathing, I agree

[fresh cedar]

Totally yeah

[cold gale]

currently excited for what hoi4 gonna be cooking up for june

[astral pewter]

Pacific dlc 100%

I will quit hoi4 if im wrong

[cold gale]

id think second expansion pass w/ Pacific DLC then China Overhaul DLC

[astral pewter]

Pacific dlc will most likely contain china

Like it would be an asia rework

[cold gale]

maybe

i would be thinking pacific dlc as in Japan USA battlefront with raids and new provinces made across the pacific ocean w/ new islands to island hop on

even a specific event that says "Raid on Pearl Harbor, A date which will live in infamy."

[astral pewter]

I think america should be its own dlc since its a major

With maybe a commonwealth rework including usa

[cold gale]

we may see man the guns get merged into the game

[astral pewter]

It should be anyway

Man the guns should be in the game tbh

[cold gale]

Possibly due to the commonwealth nations needing a rework, plus one of the first dlc's

i still would want to see a little entente rework since the nations been waiting since 2017 in the dust from death by dishonor

[astral pewter]

That should come after a asia and commonwealth rework

People will not like europe getting another dlc so soon

[cold gale]

also true

would ireland get a tree in the "commonwealth rework?"

[astral pewter]

Id say give them a little bit of something

[cold gale]

possibly sub-trees for scotland and wales and quebec

like they did with kurdistan

[astral pewter]

Similar to how Iceland got a little bit of something in AAT

[cold gale]

True

[astral pewter]

Maybe just Scotland and quebec

I hate to say it, wales isnt big or important enough to get something like that

[cold gale]

not wrong tbh, just thinking of ideas

i would want to see trees for former soviet trees like Ukraine Belarus Georgia Armenia and such

[astral pewter]

I would also like to see new foundland being in the game aswell

[cold gale]

i thought they were in the game?

[astral pewter]

even just make them a releasable

[cold gale]

ohhhh yeah

[astral pewter]

They arent in the base game

[cold gale]

thats needed then since they're releasing some of the colonies in arabia and such

[astral pewter]

Id say make them a releasable since in 1922 they asked the uk to annex them due to the great depression

[fresh cedar]

Just don’t see them ever doing those tbh

[cold gale]

damn

[fresh cedar]

Probably will do the ones we don’t have content for yet, then going back to majors then end game

Like Southeast Asia, carribean, Oceania, North Africa. Then China, Commonwealth, Japan, USA, France

[hollow idol]

Hoi5 gonna go crazy

[hollow coral]

in another 4 years

[solemn vault]

not for the first 4 years

so since its about 4 years away and then 4 years for them to fix it and add content, we'll be playing it in 2033!

[finite obsidian]

hi

[hollow lion]

Welcome

[hearty blade]

where is my welcome huh

[hollow lion]

You were already here, silly

[hearty blade]

idc i want my welcome too

hi guys im new here

see im new here

[urban wraith]

when free update?

[astral pewter]

What?

[polar jasper]

There was one when prototype vehicles came out

Changed MIOs a bit

Every DLC comes with a free update paired with it

[sly anchor]

xd

[urban wraith]

no it's minor balance update need major balance update for FREE

[fresh cedar]

Welcome!!

[fresh cedar]

Have you played paradox games before? 😭

[sly anchor]

xdddd

[finite obsidian]

thank you

[cold gale]

i got a question, if hoi4 finishes the WW2 scenario (1936-1939), will we get something from older games and cancelled projects like East vs West, or 1930 and 1933 game start date? or will that be a project for way later on.

[brittle venture]

the hearts of iron series in world war two, the next game in the series would still be world war two, but possibly a different series/game for the cold war could happen someday

[cold gale]

ahh alright, could be cool to see something with cold war and modern times (like millenium dawn but less of the lag and more of gameplay)

[polar jasper]

Espiocracy is an upcoming game based on the Cold War era

[stable tusk]

Oh yeah, isn't that supposed to come out this year?

[polar jasper]

No idea

Looks neat though

I'll wait for reviews and videos on it before I decide to get it

[hollow idol]

hoi5 is coming soon

you dont do this unless your planning a new game in the series and killing off a old one.

all the preorder bonuses in 1 dlc pack

[brittle venture]

Wdym?

[hollow idol]

im betting on a final big dlc.

some smaller ones

then a massive reveal trailer for hoi something

[brittle venture]

We'll see

Hoi5 wouldnt be soon anyway

Like considering its pdx itd still be earliest like 2030 like

Its not gonna be there any time soon

[hollow idol]

also i bought the dlc still...i like to play with friends and have all possible content.

[cobalt jay]

Hoi V will depend on what engine U
EU V uses

[hollow idol]

reveal trailer end of 2025, launch mid 2026 or q4 2026

[cobalt jay]

Nah

[hollow idol]

inbetween that time hoi4 will get many smaller dlc countries

[brittle venture]

Thats just not happening

[cobalt jay]

Hoi V isn't possible atm

[hollow idol]

They probably been working on Hoi5 since like 2 to 3 years ago.

id love a Cold War title....

[brittle venture]

Usually they like to tell us

[cobalt jay]

There is no engine for Hoi V

[hollow idol]

but realistically itll be a reboot of hoi4.

another ww2.

[brittle venture]

Thats also wrong because the hearts of iron series is ww2

Hoi, hoi2, hoi3 all ww2

[hollow idol]

Europa 5 engine or victorias 3

[brittle venture]

And this

They make an engine for every game

[hollow idol]

they have a canned cold war game

[brittle venture]

Again theyd tell us in some small announcement if they started

[hollow idol]

we all just forget this

[cobalt jay]

Victoria 3 still uses Claustwitz

[brittle venture]

Yeah but thats not the same series

[hollow idol]

wasnt it called hoi cold war

[brittle venture]

I can assure you, any thoughts about hoi5 being "soon" just wont happen

[cobalt jay]

We don't know what engine EU V will be using at this moment

[hollow idol]

the mod wants to throw us off

dont believe them

[brittle venture]

Im not a dev

This isnt some throwing you off im just telling you directly how like development at pdx works

[cobalt jay]

The earliest possible date for Hoi V is Q1 2028

[hollow idol]

nahh theyll release a trailer before

latest i can see is q4 of 2027

[cobalt jay]

EU V was teased last year, we haven't gotten anything about Hoi V

So its at least another two years

[hollow idol]

we also havent got any new dlc other than a pack of old dlcs pre order bonuses.

that was not mentioned in the patch notes.

[cobalt jay]

Its not time for a new DLC yet

For context Gotterdammerung wasn't announced until October

[hollow coral]

Whats with these conspiracy theories for hoi5

[brittle venture]

People see almost 10 year old game

See europe filled with content

Go 'game is done'

Even though theres 0 evidence to that

Like id agree if it was happening, but its just not

[fallen zenith]

Also the prototype pack was released a month early

[fallen zenith]

They see "Oh EU5 is a thing HOI5 must be next" when EU5/project ceasar was teased like almost a year ago

[polar jasper]

I am not excited for hoi5. I already see its launch lacking many features, having some wack balancing for new features, and being bug filled

[astral pewter]

Hoi5 would most likely follow in Victoria 3s footsteps, Ruin features that were fun and worked fine, make the ui horrible to look at etc

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Hey Chak, a potential useful thing to add is with the new special projects. There’s a tooltip that pops up at the top of your screen that says “Available special project” but when you click it, often it takes you to a facility with no scientist. Maybe this can be changed to only direct players to facilities with scientists so that they can assign research rather than having to click it 20 times till a facility with one appears.

[pseudo wing]

same as with bugs, make a suggestion over on the forum so that I have a link to something other than a discord screenshot

[fresh cedar]

Rip thought they were made here

Thought that’s why you’ll ask if people have suggestions on here 😂

[pseudo wing]

not every suggestion can be from here, using a link from the forum for something in the UI is easier than saying perhaps a workaround for XYZ focus would be good or that a specific model is missing

for this kind of thing, specifically to do with how UI interacts, I believe the forum would be better so that I can link it to the devs, as it's not as small as one would think most cases

[fresh cedar]

Ah so here is mostly for focuses or small bugs?

[drifting star]

Can you add a focus to create burgundy

As Germany

Also a way to core Persia as Iraq since the whole caliph thing.

Chinese rework especially sinkang

[thick cedar]

HI

[hollow coral]

doesnt iraq already core all of the arabia and north africa

[drifting star]

Yea but they should also core Afghanistan and Iran

It does not make sense to say caliph but only for Arabs

[hollow coral]

idk man

[rigid schooner]

The worst part is that it will definitely have 3D characters

[hollow coral]

Doubt

[fallen zenith]

Nah. HOI4 has a specific artstyle. Same with EU4/EU5. I don't think they're gonna stray away from it

[brittle venture]

whats it with every good hoi mod and not being updated to brazillian portuguese its messed up

[brittle venture]

i have a bug report where when the ai (or possibly anyone havent tested) agrees to license in the portuguese version the text is red and says they denied it

[ionic thorn]

where can i find KaIssereich guides

[hearty blade]

guides to paths

should be included

in the mod itself

idk where it is in KR but in KX theres a notes thing where u can check

[hearty blade]

sorry i make all of them and i only speak real portuguese not that fake portuguese ew ew ew

[harsh hull]

KR also has path guides included in the game itself

I promise you can find them with a minimal amount of looking

[brittle venture]

WDYM

You speak the fake portuguese

[cobalt jay]

What mods?

[brittle venture]

Cosmetic mostly + toolpack 😔

Like city news events

Not updated

[cobalt jay]

Oh that is understandable as a modder

You know how many city events there are?

[brittle venture]

A lot lol

I understand completely

But its like damn

[cobalt jay]

Do you want to translate them all to Brazilian Portuguese?

[brittle venture]

Yes

Actually no

But like its moderately annoying

[brittle venture]

This is vanilla tho btw

Prob more important

[hollow lion]

👀

[brittle venture]

Hii :3

[cobalt jay]

What is the easiest way to do localization anyway?

[hollow lion]

What do you mean by that?

If you had to translate a huge mod, Id imagine good AI but then double check every line, even if you gotta correct 10% of the lines, I'd imagine its a lot less work then writing everything from scratch

[hearty blade]

im a professional translator

bonjour = hello

thanks for listening to my tedtalk

[floral anvil]

👏

[pseudo wing]

Mainly smaller things that I can send to the devs, correct

Larger scale things, such as changes to how the UI works or how trees interact would be better over on the forum seeing as they are not small things that I can try and get the devs to pop into War Effort patches, but smaller things like spelling errors, perhaps focus tweaks or minor bugs and whatnot I think are easier for me to bring to attention

also late response from me, apologies

[fresh cedar]

So like tweaks to the French union focus? Would that be considered small

[pseudo wing]

depends on what you view as small tweak

but potentially yes, though of course not everything I bring up is changed, they may be as designed

(concerning balance and whatnot)

[fresh cedar]

Always found it to be super unbalanced. You either keep full employment and do French union (which kills your economy and has terrible rng) or you choose to fix your economy. If they tweaked the rng of the French union cores or made it more worth maybe,

[floral anvil]

Chak can you please tell the devs that we need some implementation of colonizing the moon in a separate DLC Luna map as a late game mechanic 😎

[fresh cedar]

Or the ocean

[floral anvil]

Ocean?

The ocean is already in the game huh?

[fresh cedar]

Colonizing and setting up bases in it

Would rather that for a schizo hypothetical over the moon 😂

[floral anvil]

😢

[fresh cedar]

Like French Union is so bad that no one ever takes it. Feels like France got done dirty with it since Britain’s Imperial Federation and Spain’s Unite Hispanics are so good

[floral anvil]

I mean the La Resistance dlc didn’t feel like a France orientated expansion. It mostly felt like a Spain orientated expansion

[fresh cedar]

The name refers to the French Resistance 😂

[floral anvil]

No way 4 real?

[fresh cedar]

Could the acceptance rates of countries for French union be tweaked. Either better rng or different conditions to make it more in line with Spanish/British empire colonial focuses. Could be as simple as raising a success chance which is like a few lines of code being edited

[fresh cedar]

I’m just saying they did super rework France with it

[floral anvil]

They did, honestly I think it’s focus tree is okay

[fresh cedar]

Agreed, I just don’t know why you’d ever choose French union over full employment. Like remove 25% recruitable debuff, or have 2% chance of annexing all colonies

Feel like you’d maybe want it to feel more like a choice rather than a no brainer.

[stable tusk]

Maybe higher compliance could increase the chances

[fading walrus]

Bros pfp looks like Arcadius from total war attila

First Eastern Roman Emperor

Nothing bad or important happened during his reign

[cobalt jay]

Its not bad as much as it is impossible

[fresh cedar]

That’s my argument though. It’s so RNG heavy that it isn’t useful or fun

[fresh cedar]

Like maybe 60-80% compliance is guaranteed

[cobalt jay]

Its not even RNG

[fresh cedar]

Think it’s like a 2% chance you get all of them

But majority are 25%-75% chance

[cobalt jay]

Literally it is literally hard coded to be virtually impossible without save scumming:
You have a 25% chance of getting North Africa, 45% chance to get West Africa, 45% chance to get Central Africa, 15% chance to get Syria, and 5% chance to get Indochina

[fresh cedar]

Yeah it’s ridiculous

Why on earth would you ever choose that over the other

[cobalt jay]

There are a whole bunch of those in the older focus trees

[fresh cedar]

To me, it’s not even a choice but clear to just avoid this focus path. Highly improbable AND wrecks your compliance/resistance on regions

[fresh cedar]

Agreed, this one just feels worse?

[brittle venture]

They should have it be based on compliance or infra or something instead of random imo

[dense gale]

I mean u can just cheese it by releasing all ur colonies 🤭

As puppets they go down the default focus tree

So when I potentially annex them u get their mils

But if they don’t nothing happens

[harsh hull]

I do hope they integrate LaR into the base game at some point

I really want them to have a second go at the Free/Vichy France trees, even if it means a second DLC for it

[coral drift]

If its speaker offers to translate my Indonesian mod, i would welcome that very much.

[drifting star]

Dev corners next week ? Let’s go ?

[floral anvil]

Do we even think they are gonna integrate Man the Guns?

[brittle venture]

Likely

[harsh hull]

Well I hope so

Surely they don't leave the US tree like it is, compared to Germany, Italy, Soviet Union etc

[gusty saffron]

can there be a day when all pps get free dlcs

all dlcs

[thick edge]

Nope

[gusty saffron]

:(

worth a try tho

[brittle venture]

Just win all challenges from chak

[gusty saffron]

what if i am shit at the game?

[brittle venture]

Take lessons

[hollow coral]

Hoi4 class

[fallen zenith]

Not all the challenges are actually difficult. Some are just meant to be fun and easy

[cobalt jay]

This is not one tho

[fallen zenith]

This one isn't extremely difficult. But yea its a bit of a challenge

[fresh cedar]

Imagine it’s just a French and Southeast Asia DLC. I’d lose it 😂

[drifting star]

*Free France dlc

[rigid schooner]

*occitania dlc

[fresh cedar]

Navarre DLC

[stable tusk]

Corsica DLC

[fresh escarp]

Nationalist China dlc

[stable tusk]

No but that would actually make sense

[hollow coral]

Brittany dlc makes more sense

[floral anvil]

Greenland dlc ❤️

[hollow coral]

Honestly a french dlc with rework netherlands spain and portugal with french indochina and mini luzembourg kinda makes sense

They did that for gotterdamurung

[fresh cedar]

I just think the pacific probably deserves it more considering a World War Game and Asia has gotten little content. Makes sense for Japan/Asia too considering India/Burna were reworked which can compliment it

[hollow coral]

Heard a lot of buzz around japan and usa dlc but thats definitely not happening

Japan and china rework

Then south east asia country pack with all the countries works well

Doesnt make sense splitting them up like phillipines with usa

So thats siam malaysia indonesia phillipines and burma

Maybe french indochina too

Would be interesting

[stable mica]

Rework Japan 🎉🥳🎊

[fading walrus]

I hope Japan has multiple fascist paths to represent the Army factions

and maybe a path where the Emperor intervenes and takes control of the country

[dapper fjord]

hopefully we get Navy paths too as Japan..

[fading walrus]

same

I hope they simulate the Army Navy rivalry well too

[thick edge]

Japanese balance of power

[fading walrus]

you beat me to it

[thick edge]

Between the emporer and military

Emporer

Did I spell that wrong

[fading walrus]

yes

[thick edge]

Emperor

[fading walrus]

Emperor

[dapper fjord]

yea because of the rivalry.. then historically getting Tojo from Army as PM

[thick edge]

First try

[dapper fjord]

need to fixing the portrait because Japan have PM like UK

[cosmic falcon]

I hope they rework Australia and fix John Curtin being the leader in both start dates.

[brittle venture]

I made them do this update

Ive leveraged my immense connections (real)

As you know id never lie

[dapper fjord]

what if new Yamamoto gimmick with the Submarine Carrier fleet

[thick edge]

Yeah… yeah…

[pseudo wing]

I know of the horrible things you have done

[brittle venture]

Noooo

[fresh cedar]

Comment didn’t age well 😂

[brittle venture]

Systems i'd like in hoi are small arms + artillery rework and like supply depots

With equipment on map instead of off map

Would be fun to raid

Or capture

And add like more strategy

[thick edge]

Infantry gun designers

Artillery designers

[brittle venture]

Manpower designer

[thick edge]

Peak

[fresh cedar]

Casualty designer

[brittle venture]

Also ammunition rework

Fr

Would be cool

[fresh cedar]

Tbh though wish they’d make manpower like earlier hearts of irons, where there’s a limited pool of Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen

It’s not just one general pool, but some nations can run out of pilots etc

[pseudo wing]

I'll just give you equipment deficits every time you do a challenge dw

[fresh cedar]

I’m guessing the one thing is “Manpower is the new fuel”

[brittle venture]

Yipee

[hollow coral]

I meant Japan+usa

[thick edge]

Whoever uncensors the black gets a firm handshake

[fresh cedar]

I mean it’s going to be about the Pacific war and naval conflict. Can’t really do that without the USA

[hollow coral]

I mean i did read east asia and southeast asia

[coral drift]

Southeast Asia here we goooo!!!
💪🇲🇨🇲🇾🇵🇭🇻🇳🇹🇭🇲🇲

[rain thunder]

USA is probably gonna get some adjustments but not full rework like japan china

[hollow coral]

Usa deserves a sperate dlc

[brittle venture]

USA and allied minors seperate

[fresh cedar]

Just saying it’s definitely gonna get content

[brittle venture]

Ill be a bit sad if the dlc changes new zealand

Cuz i do like the tree

[fresh cedar]

Polynesia Fascist path tho

[hollow coral]

Aboriginal path for australia would go hard

[brittle venture]

I like it on hist*

The ahist is bad

[hollow coral]

Maori path for newzealand

[brittle venture]

But theyll make the hist not as braindead/OP as rn

[fresh cedar]

Opinions vary

[brittle venture]

And like the braindead hist new zealand is fun

[hollow coral]

Bob semple buffs

[coral drift]

Dutch Indies fascists wanted to plant their flags from Kyoto to Cape Town?

[hollow coral]

Dutch east indies nsb

[coral drift]

Yes

[hollow coral]

Thailand will be fun

Historical was pretty interesting

[coral drift]

Imagine the government being hijacked by Ho Chi Minh

[hollow coral]

cant imagine that

But i dont know any thai communists

[coral drift]

Dude's still on Siam at that time

[fresh cedar]

I can imagine that happening to Vietnam/Indochina though

[hollow coral]

Unless you count pridi who was accused

[fresh cedar]

Communism tends to be anti colonial/foreign influence. Would have more place in Indochina than Thailand

[brittle venture]

Maybe with rattakonisin

Or whatever the name is

[hollow coral]

They should just add indochina and make the country pack 30 bucks

[fresh cedar]

Kaminoan

[coral drift]

Nice

I hope that any ancient empire revivals would be only brought by the historical figures who wanted it

Mercouris with Alexander
Mussolini with Rome

Mohammad Yamin with Majapahit....

[fresh cedar]

Mussolini can do Rome though

[coral drift]

Using Thailand as a revolutionary base area to drive the Brits and French back is plausible.

[hollow coral]

Historical: non aligned to fascist, collaborate with japanese to take recent land lost

[coral drift]

The first two examples are already in-game.

[hollow coral]

A his non aligned to fascist, independant and gain back more territories to restore rattanakosin borders

[fresh cedar]

Think it’s interesting you may be able to choose world perquisites for alt history

[hollow coral]

Monarchist: basically same thing

Democracy could be like spreading independance or smthn

[brittle venture]

Thats better for communism fr

Democracy should be more proactive

[hollow coral]

Feel like it could work for both

[coral drift]

I really hope that "playing tall" experience can be more encouraged

[brittle venture]

Volunteer work and stuff

[fresh cedar]

Non aligned can be like a million things in HOI4. It’s basically anything that isn’t Democracy, Communist or Fascist. Including religion, Juntas, anarchism and more

[brittle venture]

Anarchism is weird

[hollow coral]

Non aligned as in like rn thailand

[fresh cedar]

Denmark Democracy be like

[brittle venture]

Its a communist subideology

Only spain anarchism is non aligned

[hollow coral]

A dictatorship

Khana ratsadon was a dictatorship if i remember correctly

But plaek was more of the fascist advocate than phraya

[fresh cedar]

Would be neat if they made unique achievements for alt history templates

[coral drift]

Yes. Marshal Phibun was an Italophile

[brittle venture]

When they update japan and shit ill play it the most out of anyone fr

[hollow coral]

Ill be playing china exclusively

Dont ask which one

[brittle venture]

I already do

:3

No im lying but prc is my most played nation in like reality

[hollow coral]

Me too

[coral drift]

Forming Dai-Nippon Teikoku (as cosmetic-only formable) from Chukchi to Tasmania is a dream of mine.

[hollow coral]

In irl?

Hope not

[brittle venture]

Tasmania?

[fresh cedar]

Idk why but recreating the Qing empire is always fun

[coral drift]

Yes, all of Western Pacific

[hollow coral]

I hate monarchism but i do admit its rather fun

[brittle venture]

Easy focus trees are fun

[coral drift]

I modded that in my East Indies mod
So... kinda?

[brittle venture]

You can focus on the game

[fresh cedar]

Just like that you have to fight everything to get it

[brittle venture]

Hmm

[hollow coral]

When manchukuo gets more generals it will be good

[brittle venture]

I wanna play japan in mp next week

[brittle venture]

Manchu is goated already

You just do railway gun + navy

[coral drift]

PRC is also cool
Using combination of manual justify and the focus tree to gobble up western warlords and Tibet before knocking down on Japan.

[fresh cedar]

So will Japan probably get cores on the whole Pacific and their own form of ReichKoms?

[hollow coral]

I like roleplaying so i dont go for crazy builds

[brittle venture]

Its so much fun :D

You get a few fun wars

And then can do anything

[fresh cedar]

I never use railway gun ngl

[hollow coral]

Me neither

Dont think ive ever built one

[brittle venture]

You need a disp eco nation for it

[coral drift]

Most likely only puppet states and cosmetic formable
Maybe also coring Taiwan and Palau at the largest

[fresh cedar]

Could see them coring Polynesia too tbh

[hollow coral]

Second philippine republic ,state of burma, empire of vietnam ,luang prabang, kingdom of kampuchea

[brittle venture]

Hmm

[fresh cedar]

You think they’d do Vietnam rather than one Indochina?

[brittle venture]

Indochina could be a good nation

[fresh cedar]

Feel like Indochina as a whole will just be one country but will have paths to Balkanize

[coral drift]

And then Sukarno debates whether to accept the "East Indies Kingdom" proposal or stayed Republican like he was before the Occupation.

[hollow coral]

Would probably just be vietnam tag

[brittle venture]

No core nation like rks

:D

With some stupid path to usurp all french colonies

[fresh cedar]

Has anyone noticed how late game China and USSR use human waves scary effectively?

[coral drift]

Unless they got someone who believes that IRL in the 1940s, most likely not.

[brittle venture]

No

[hollow coral]

Rks dont work for japan. I think just establishing puppet states would be more fitting since they were supposedly bringing freedom to asia

[brittle venture]

No i meant a no core nation for indochina

Not that japan needs them

[fresh cedar]

They will have like over 1000 divisions and yolo push

[hollow coral]

I think cored

[brittle venture]

They used collaborators everywhere for that reason anyway

[hollow coral]

Congo is all cored

[brittle venture]

Ok but theyre not effective

No air

For china

[brittle venture]

Nuh uh

[fresh cedar]

I like to play minor nations so human waves are effective bc manpower

[brittle venture]

Rwanda and burundi arent

[hollow coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

Forgot they existed

[fresh cedar]

You think they’ll add Egypt as a nation or naw

I think probably not

[coral drift]

Initially no
But eventually yes, since there were lots of resistance

[hollow coral]

French indochina wasnt a whole colony though it was a collection of colonies

[brittle venture]

In a country pack

[hollow coral]

North africa and arab peninsula country pack

[fresh cedar]

I can really see Japan having collab govts but also making use of Allie’s

[hollow coral]

Possibly

[fresh cedar]

Agreed with North Africa DLC. Probably if they ever rework generals

[hollow coral]

Morocco and tunisia would save hoi4

[fresh cedar]

Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt and then the whole North African theater

[coral drift]

Even East Indies got a whole lot of question when its sovereignity was discussed because the Dutch never bothered to give them one before Japan knocks them down, lmao

[hollow coral]

If they gave italian east africa a focus tree it would be great

[coral drift]

I was surprised that they did not give them parts of the Ethiopian fascist path to AOI.

[fresh cedar]

Indonesia would be scary in alt history with its new formable

[brittle venture]

No thats good

[fresh cedar]

Right

[brittle venture]

The ethiopian fascist path is TRASH

Its better to do no path

[hollow coral]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/suggestions-for-more-african-kingdoms-and-leaders.1761164/ more african kingdom releasables

[coral drift]

What formable?
Greater Indonesia is the IRL Indonesian territory
Indonesia itself was a formable, with the initial territories are thought up only to encompass Java and Sumatra.

[hollow coral]

Suggested by me ofc

[fresh cedar]

Can core Indonesia, Malaysia and the Phillipines

[coral drift]

Now Nusantara, on the other hand....

[coral drift]

^

[brittle venture]

This guy indonesias

[fresh cedar]

Like right now in the game it can

[hollow coral]

Should add army modifiers for china and japan

[coral drift]

Never tired to advocate it.
We have so much potential that can be tapped on.

[brittle venture]

Ive read a bit about it during colonial times yes

Its interesting

Dutch colonial management was weird anyway and seen a lot in the modern world really everywhere

In the west*

But that second half is a different topic

[hollow coral]

What do you think of an indonesia monarchist path though

[coral drift]

Look up at its RT56 tree in the fascist branch

[hollow coral]

Isnt it one focus or smthn

Idk i dont play rt56

[limber ruin]

New japan dlc finaly

[hollow coral]

It was kinda obvious it was going to happen honestly

[white hemlock]

What ? You don't like your 70days focus to create a faction with your puppets ?

[hollow coral]

The fact japan doesnt have a real industry tree bothers me. Like it is an old one but they still made sizable industry trees back then

[coral drift]

For other plausible paths for the East Indies, please play this mod

[hollow coral]

wait who made this mod😱

[coral drift]

Bruv, it's on my profile

[hollow coral]

Im just playing

I watched hollowbeing play this im pretty sure

[brittle venture]

I dont think he has?

I might be demented though

Ill ask him when hes back from japan

[hollow coral]

https://youtu.be/wIATIN-iuEE?si=rKMiFTABkwoYusPz

Was it not this?

[brittle venture]

Im demented

[cobalt jay]

Japan buffs incoming

[polar jasper]

I wonder if with the introduction of power there will be a resource rework

[cobalt jay]

I'm more interested in the doctrine rework

[brittle venture]

+5000% soft attack on line artillery doctrine

[polar jasper]

I can already see Superior Firepower being forced to use more arty in their divisions but don't get anything for defense or HP

[cobalt jay]

@pseudo wing Are you allowed to say anything more about the upcoming doctrine changes?

[brittle venture]

Thats already rn

[polar jasper]

"Just wait and see" - Chak probably

[brittle venture]

They need to use 6+ for left to be worth

[brittle venture]

They all signed an NDA

[cobalt jay]

I'm curious if it is going to be balancing the doctrines or a complete doctrine rewrite

[pseudo wing]

nuh uh

[cobalt jay]

Yeah but Chak is community manager so he might have more leeway than a dev

[pseudo wing]

Just wait and see

[cobalt jay]

😭

I just want to know if it means balancing the doctrine or a complete rewrite of the doctrines

[polar jasper]

Why don't you use the in server

[pseudo wing]

because the in server one was added after the one that is in my quick select menu

[polar jasper]

That is a valid counter

[pseudo wing]

there are a lot

[brittle venture]

Chak can you just reveal the entire next update in my dms :D

[cobalt jay]

Also I now expect the next DLC to be the biggest change to Hoi IV since NSB

[brittle venture]

(im joking pls dont kill me)

[pseudo wing]

I could just screenshot the thing you did the other day

and get you cancelled instead

[brittle venture]

😔 Cyberbullying is real

[pseudo wing]

What part about me being evil do you not remember smh

[brittle venture]

Shockingly i think youre nice

[cobalt jay]

Casey do you agree

[brittle venture]

To what

To it being big update?

I mean after nothing update theres a good chance theyve been developing a lot in the background for this update

[cobalt jay]

With what the dev corners is hinting this will be the biggest shakeup to Hoi IV since NSB

[brittle venture]

Its possible

10 year anniversary soon and all too

Would be great PR

[hearty blade]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[cobalt jay]

Because doctrine + mils + eco changes will shake Hoi IV to its core

[pseudo wing]

Simply not true, I am the big bad guy here, just ask Ame

[hearty blade]

oh yeah no chak is evil

diagnosed professionally by me

no doubt about it

[polar jasper]

Oh no

Mods blackmailing

[pseudo wing]

let me get the screenshot

[hearty blade]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-the-miz-triple-h-get-aired-g-render-wrestling-gif-21153674

[pseudo wing]

throwback

[hearty blade]

reptile like was insane comment from me

😭

[polar jasper]

Chak on his nicest day:

[brittle venture]

Discord users when faced with proper punctuation:

[coral drift]

Can't wait for your comments on my server, then.
(you're allowed to do here if you tagged me, though)

[hearty blade]

i going to spawn a big punctuation on your house

noob

[coral drift]

Hopefully after defending my thesis, i can devote more time on this

[brittle venture]

Im glad hes like that :) just like me fr

[pseudo wing]

I can be nice, but why be nice when I can be correct? (And meme on Ame/Casey)

[polar jasper]

True

Telling the truth is important

[brittle venture]

This same reason is why im in #ask-for-help-here no friends to hang out with might as well (usually somewhat politely) bully strangers, youre so relatable

[cobalt jay]

Chak can we suggest changes regarding the dev corner?

[pseudo wing]

wdym

[cobalt jay]

With the proposed navy changes I would love to see more task force oriented gameplay instead of deathstacks

[dusk mist]

How many times can I put 💯

[polar jasper]

I approve of this

[pseudo wing]

During the Dev Corners, I'd suggest you mention that on the posts themselves, easier for the Devs to see it than scrolling through this entire channel/needing me to link it for context

[polar jasper]

Game should revolve around 4 carriers per task force

Since that is what we did somewhat irl

[brittle venture]

They tried

[coral drift]

I hope whatever books the devs read as source for this year's Indies/Indonesian contents would matched mine.
If not, i can list them all in the most apropriate devidiary.

[cobalt jay]

Just use a version of the system from TFB honestly

[brittle venture]

TFB does navy and pacific really well

Its just the rest of the game not so much xd

[rain thunder]

yeah something to prevent death stacking would be cool

it works well on land, it should work on navy too

[polar jasper]

State of the Pacifif base game?

Command limits on ships?

[brittle venture]

Itd be neat

Also like in my mind democratic path / decolonizing it would give jap the max buffs of it without having to hold or something

[sonic stratus]

Japan dlc :0

[silent prism]

Sorry sire, but what is Dev Corners?

I kinda missed it

[stable tusk]

Dev Corners are gonna be a thing where Devs kinda talk about what they're doing for future updates

[silent prism]

Aha, okay

Merci

[drifting star]

I think the new fuel is pp

[silent prism]

You know, I would love to see devs speaking directly with players

Maybe create a pool of all players with 2k+ hours to discuss what is needed for the game

[silent prism]

I would say electrical power

[fallen zenith]

The devs actively discuss stuff on the forums

[fresh cedar]

I’d say specialized manpower like Soldiers, Sailors and Air men. Japan running out of pilots was a big part of the war

[silent prism]

I was trying to create a mod which allowed something like

"You research techs, which grant you military ideas, which can be combined into a doctrine of your own design"

I failed, because it is kinda super hard to create. But I really hope devs make it. It would be amazing

[silent prism]

I know that good sir, it wasn't what I meant

But still thanks

[fallen zenith]

Would fit a japan update. And islands and oceans seems like it references that

[fresh cedar]

Sorta yes sorta no

[silent prism]

But why would they call it "... power"?

[fresh cedar]

manPOWER

[silent prism]

It is not a fuel

[fresh cedar]

In a sense it is

[silent prism]

But, idea with specialized manpower is great

[fresh cedar]

HOI3 had the specialized manpower

Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s coming back

[fresh cedar]

Exactly

[silent prism]

Some mods in HoI4 have some similar ideas

But never on that scale

[fallen zenith]

It would be interesting yea. You can't just put anyone in a plane

[fresh cedar]

Would be really cool because would make Navies and Air force less spammy

[silent prism]

But I think that would be hard to balance

[fresh cedar]

Even Sailors are quite specialized roles and require a lot of training

[silent prism]

Since, say, US and USSR had tonnes of people to go to Air Force, and, say, France will get outmatched

[fresh cedar]

Exactly

[silent prism]

It might need a super hard formula