latest-updates

[fresh cedar]

Allegedly a lot needs to be done, has been fun though

The changes to India are really nice

[pseudo wing]

I know for a fact that the Army spirit was changed, I asked directly for that

the other ones I have not seen a bug report on specifically

[fresh cedar]

That’s what I thought too

[pseudo wing]

I cannot spell today dear lord, first the announcement not having the ping, and all the spelling errors earlier today and now my mind is rebelling today

[fresh cedar]

Think the Iraq joining in 1939 versus 1941 is decent

[fresh cedar]

It’s just like that sometimes lol

[pseudo wing]

Dont quote me on this, but for game balance I would assume the joining in 39 is more for game balance, no?

that way you're not waiting till what a lot of people assume is already a halfway over war to join

granted, I am not much for the axis myself so I dont particularly pay attention to it all the time (I make all my countries communist just for the flag lol)

[fresh cedar]

Right, would be almost worthless having it so late

[pseudo wing]

so I cannot be fully sure

[fresh cedar]

Feel like recently the communist trees have been super enjoyable

[pseudo wing]

I am seeing that sentiment a lot too, though I have also been trying to find the exact pinpoints on what people are not liking as well

there are always valid points in the criticism but lately I've had to try and explain the difference between constructive criticism and what steps over that line to a few people

I can see the argument against afghanistan not having the democratic path, but from my recollection it wasn't added since there was no movement for it at the time?

(I could very well be mistaken)

[fresh cedar]

Yeah I’ve noticed the same. Almost wondering if people’s real life frustrations are boiling over into their hobbies. A lot of it simply lacks tact and sanity honestly

Like the backlash to this prototype dlc is insane. As if we didn’t always know it was basically an armor pack to accompany special-projects/GDR

I always liked armored/plane packs and this one is very unique so I’ll enjoy it

[pseudo wing]

I can understand it not being someone's cup of tea, though we did indeed announce it back at the beginning of the Expansion Pass

Though I also understand the frustrations with GoE, Arheo said that they will still incorporate fixes and whatnot in the War Effort patches for GoE content, to try and also fix things outside of the area of GoE

[fresh cedar]

Exactly! It was announced so long ago and a 2 second look at it would tell us everything we needed to know 😂

[pseudo wing]

I'd just assume some people forgot that it was included and believe it to be not apart of the pass?

happens to us all sometimes

[fresh cedar]

“Why is my chocolate ice cream chocolate flavored! 😡”

[pseudo wing]

well to be fair, there are different kinds of chocolate, so perhaps that chocolate ice cream isnt the same as the one you had before

but we've gotten far from the point now aha, I am still looking for War effort things if we got em'

[fresh cedar]

Yeah they got plain chocolate but wanted an extra fudge swirl with M&M’s

[fresh cedar]

So one suggestion I saw a few times was with the new Dominion India path and specifically when the UK flees to it. Many wanted the ability to choose which colony to flee to

So like by default would be Canada but could choose others

Think it happens when the UK capitulates. The Raj can effectively absorb them. But would neat if Canada/South Africa could do it too. May be a good option too for alt history if one is loyal and the other isn’t

[pseudo wing]

I could see that point, it would be a nice addition to it (imo)

[fresh cedar]

Kinda exists already if UK goes communist, flees to Canada

[dull tundra]

Is there a list of all custom raids in hoi4?

[twin bronze]

guess how to get to this point

[fresh cedar]

As Germany, idek

[twin bronze]

its actually easier than you think lol

im doin this for fun

[fresh cedar]

How do you even do it?

[twin bronze]

puppets

[fresh cedar]

Like in the process of puppeting people or just for having

Ooooh

Yeah that makes sense

[twin bronze]

im gonna max it out

...

[thick edge]

Bro

[stable tusk]

glassbreaking.mp4

[pseudo beacon]

Does anyone know when thd next hoi4 dlc comes out

[thick edge]

tomorrow

[pseudo beacon]

Douche

[thick edge]

aw man

[harsh hull]

Don't suppose you remember about that Burma core population thing?

[astral pewter]

Prob later in the year

Like around November or something

[brittle venture]

What does it mean

[cobalt jay]

They finally fixed hotjoins nuking your CP in MP

[brittle venture]

Ohhhh

[thick edge]

I thought I was imagining things

[astral pewter]

I never noticed lol

[civic vine]

Not sure if it's a bug, but if I can make 2 small recommendations you could potentially relay:

Two things about Iran I hope will get addressed eventually, but the focus "Assessing the Opposition" being required even if you let the civil war kick off makes the focus provide nothing to Iran at all. I found it easier to just fight the civil war rather than spending 220 political power to avoid it. Maybe make the focus bypass if you let the civil war kick off?

Also the focus "The Tehran-Moscow Pact" is still required even if you have a non-aggression pact with the soviets prior, even though all it does is give you a non-agression pact with the soviets.

Just a few focuses I am hoping will bypass potentially?

[coral drift]

Duke_Dave in the forums still has plenty.

[nimble torrent]

"socialist education in the turkish empire"
oh boy this will go down without a hitch for sure

[sacred cargo]

@brittle venture Your ruling party has to be non-aligned in order to do the democracy focusses

The method doesn't work😿

[brittle venture]

it doesnt?

im pretty sure

you need it for the top of the tree

which you can do before going communist

you get all the buffs

[sacred cargo]

You dont get the democracy support when you go communist then

[brittle venture]

? You do iirc

I did it once

Not like multiple times but still

Its possible

[sacred cargo]

OMG

i won the civil war

finally

[brittle venture]

Yipee

Did you go quami or nufus

[sacred cargo]

quami

I decided to calvary rush

and quami gives big calvary buffs

[brittle venture]

Based

Use it to take pakistan

Border wars

[hollow coral]

Only downside for quami is that you cant change consciption

[brittle venture]

Theres no downside

[hollow coral]

But ig you can summon divisions

[brittle venture]

You take pakistan

Core pop

You go mass mob

5% recruitable pop

[hollow coral]

Hoi4 maxer

[brittle venture]

If you want to kill all of india for non core pop

Theres no downside

[sacred cargo]

wdym summon

[brittle venture]

They spawn in

Fully kitted out

No need to produce stuff or have manpower

[sacred cargo]

which focuss is that?

focus*

[brittle venture]

None its a decision

You keep when going quami

[sacred cargo]

expand irregular recruitment?

[brittle venture]

Yep and then you click the spawn thingy decision

Whenever u want

[sacred cargo]

so its basically free man power

[dense gale]

its not

when they take damage

they still drain manpower from the manpower pool

its just they spawn initially with free stuff

[fresh cedar]

Did the Dominiom become a crown thing. While it did give good buffs wish it had slightly more I guess? Maybe like the option to make your leader a British monarch

[kindred beacon]

Why does Democratic Iraq use the modern flag of Iraq?

It's still a monarchy I believe, and regardless the current design with "Allah-hu Akbar" in place of the stars was a re-design of the flag introduced by Saddam Hussein in the 90s, which put the phrase in his handwriting in between the three stars

After the Americans overthrew him they dropped the stars and handwriting. But the game takes place almost 70 years before the invasion of Iraq

[floral scaffold]

That is a good point

Better to put that on the forums since the devs dont use discord

I think the flag without including the takbir and having the three stars of the reformed Iraq would have been more historically accurate

[coral drift]

Sometimes the lack of caring on small details can be headaching.

[coral drift]

Well, only the ones that actually has a important meaning, that is.

[kindred beacon]

A lot of Hoi4 countries are like this especially with flags

For example when Syria gets put under Vichy control they fly the flag of the...Assadist regime?

This was the flag of Syria at the time (and is again now since the end of the civil war last year), and I think an easy solution would be just not having the ideologies of Syria and Lebanon change

Vichy never changed the governments of those countries, the French military governors (who were the real leaders at the time) just declared loyalty to Vichy until they got invaded by the Brits

[hollow coral]

Changed it in my mod just because it was an eyesore (plus name too) they just have to use another flag for every ideology

[green bay]

hello，any body can help me?

[noble needle]

just install Visual C++
and framework

[drifting star]

Literally says what to do silly

[fresh cedar]

The prototypes also said exactly what it was about yet people still were shocked. Reading isn’t many people’s strong suits

[dusky bay]

it took two months just to get the achievement from the latest dlc

[heavy notch]

slight correction

1. the "assadist" flag is just the flag of the united arab republic.
2. civil war isn't over

[drifting star]

It basically is like what serious factions are left ?

[heavy notch]

kurds, and isis remnants

also israel

[thick edge]

we are 2 very different people

[drifting star]

Same lmao

[astral pewter]

lol

I only have 10 after 1600 hours lol

[ebon snow]

😔
I only have frustrating ones left

[astral pewter]

😭

[safe plover]

welp

[drifting star]

What are they partisans to lmao

[safe plover]

if raj gets a famine the partisan get cores on all affected states

[subtle gorge]

Anarchists 2 electric boogaloo 💀

[brave geode]

What are their leader ?

https://tenor.com/view/toystory-aliens-wooh-hooray-cute-gif-2846098356394912609

[hollow coral]

Generic

[keen reef]

What a broken game

[spice coral]

still don’t have all of the new ones

it’s a struggle because i haven’t had the time recently

only got all the achievements before gotterdammerung discounting maybe 1 or 2

[safe plover]

Generic

[brittle venture]

Generic can get 5% prod cap 👀

[hollow coral]

i think its random traits

[brittle venture]

Yeah but economist has 5% cap

National integralist is great too

[hollow coral]

cool beans ig

[stable mica]

What do you think, can be the next (maybe last) DLC? 🤔

[thick edge]

Luxembourg dlc

[hollow coral]

obviously the japan dlc is next

but definitely not the last

[hearty blade]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-escape-containment-breach-caption-bunny-containment-breach-gif-10732405861492792373

[fresh cedar]

Wait can you actually play as them and they’re like anarchists?

[safe plover]

Yes u can play as them but only after rajs famine (then u need to annex raj and release urself as them) and no they have no content

[floral scaffold]

0 content

They aren't playable like the anarchist spain tree is

[fading walrus]

Asia (bar India) and Africa need more resources

even though Africa is the second largest Continent on the planet

I assume that the steel output in Europe , USA, and India is based on coal mines correct?

because if it is it should apply to every country TBH

[fresh cedar]

Finally, someone with more time than me

[floral scaffold]

USA rightfully has a ton of steel

It's based on extraction of resources in it

i.e saudi arabia and the ME don't have much oil because the extraction didnt happen until after ww2

[fading walrus]

Good to know

[cobalt jay]

The other thing is adding resources is a larger buffs than most people realize

[hallow pivot]

Touch grass boy

[solid gyro]

Fr

[thick edge]

Hm

I wonder if this was timed possibly

[fading walrus]

Its eu5

[thick edge]

Ik

[open crown]

Oh I thought it was some kind of Paradox games crossover

[cosmic stag]

hello yalls

[kind snow]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-girl-anime-gif-24226187

[stable quest]

Guys it’s gonna be sengoku 2. Trust me I have insider info :3

[hard smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/815614826893148230/1362468107188179244/Grognette_dance.gif

[drifting star]

I can’t wait to play it, hopefully we could see a greater expansion on the tech tree and culture system.

[stable quest]

Tomorrow? Live stream is already live

[pseudo wing]

yeah discord did a funny

dont mind me, its already fixed

I copy pasted new text in it, hit the up arrow and it randomly posted the previous version

[stable quest]

watching the eu5 livestream, sistine chapel smoke livestream, filling spreadsheetss for work, and discussing the news on discord all at the same time

[thick edge]

How much is it going to be

That’s my question

[hallow pivot]

finally eu5

I will spend all my money there

[polar jasper]

Alright, bets people are going to hate the release?

[fading walrus]

Not me because im waiting a few years

[hollow lion]

Why do you think so?

[thick edge]

People hate everything

It’s human nature for someone to dislike something

[polar jasper]

There is going to be some feature or lack of a feature that is going to upset people or bugs galore

Like Vic 3

Vic 3 is a decent enough game, but it was too different than vic 2 from what I can tell

[fresh cedar]

Can’t wait for EU5 to be playable in 2028 😂

Even if it’s mega barebones though will still play on launch

[stable tusk]

I hope it's slightly easier to get started
I got EU4 for free, opened the game, played the tutorial (well it's a Paradox tutorial, not really helpful), didn't understand a single thing, left

[fresh cedar]

It was a bit convoluted but tbh has been for years

What’s nice about paradox games when they release is that they’re so barebones that they’re easier to learn and as dlc comes out you can learn them

[drifting star]

Ngl the new unification system, new state tittles and economy is actually fire

The graphics are amazing as well

[fading walrus]

this but without the last part and me being stubborn which led me to actually play it

[hearty blade]

it'll take a good 3 years before its playable im afraid

[hollow lion]

Even if its great on release, could always wait 3 years just for sale

🇳🇱

[solid gyro]

Hi

İ need help for how to play hoi4

[hollow lion]

Thats for #ask-for-help-here

[hearty blade]

greedy dutch people

[viral lotus]

Check Praetorian HiJynx in youtube he made different series

[harsh hull]

HOI5 next gang

Trust

[astral pewter]

Next game is stellaris 2

[native marlin]

HOI5 when

[astral pewter]

never

[raven kayak]

Why would they even make hoi5? What would be the point doing that?

[hollow coral]

hoi4 is still very successful despite the recent controversy

[astral pewter]

Id like a new engine for hoi4

[hollow coral]

that doesnt need hoi5 for that

[astral pewter]

I know

Im saying a port of hoi4 to a better optimized engine

[hollow coral]

👍

[raven kayak]

True

[thick edge]

I wonder how expensive eu5 will be

Hmmm

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[fresh cedar]

I imagine $60

[brittle venture]

hmmmm

[fresh cedar]

I don’t think any of them truly have a new engine. Just variations of the same

[astral pewter]

exactly my point

Put the curent old engine to rest and do what valve did to an extent

With source 2

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure they tailor each game to the exact modifications that they’ve made. To do that would be like making a whole new game

[astral pewter]

What?

[fresh cedar]

Reread 🙂

[astral pewter]

Still a hoi4 on a better engine would be fire

[fresh cedar]

Wouldn’t just be a port but like remaking the game, which at that point would be better to just make HOI5

[astral pewter]

This over a decade old engine should be put to rest

And a hoi4 will happen just not for another few years

[fresh cedar]

I mean even EU5 and Victoria using it

[astral pewter]

Eu5 is proof of hoi5 eventually existing

[astral pewter]

Its only still being used for 2 main reasons, its cheaper to not make a new engine, and yes the current one just works

The engine is still showing its age

With its poor optimization and such

[fresh cedar]

Idk Victoria and CK run perfect for me

[astral pewter]

Do you have a more or less high end pc?

[fresh cedar]

Not trying to be devils advocate on everything you say

[fresh cedar]

Moreso about single core processor power and ram tbh

[astral pewter]

Because most mid range and low end pcs do struggle later game and on higher graphics with ck3 and vic 3

[fresh cedar]

How would a new engine solve that

Poor pcs generally perform badly on any engine

Atleast with higher graphics settings

[brittle venture]

more cores

[fresh cedar]

I guess yeah

Ngl I don’t see paradox switching to a new engine until 2030

[brittle venture]

right when hoi5 comes about tbh

its at minimum coming out in 2030 imo

since they havent started any development to it

as far as we know

which is fine imo

[polar jasper]

New hoi5 engine.

16x the calculations
4x the stupidity of hearts of Iron iv

[fresh cedar]

Just a ways away for sure 😂

[harsh hull]

Hearts of Iron V, but it's just the IV engine again, only now it starts in 1933

No other changes, 60 USD

[fresh cedar]

Tbh if they added different start dates like 1941/1945 would be cool

[mellow fulcrum]

I feel like there are mods for that?

[harsh hull]

Endsieg, yeah

[muted stump]

At that point I better be able to jump into the game and command the troops myself dawg 😭

[drifting star]

If hoi5 is made , it better have the best graphics known to man

[molten vault]

its just a strategy game

[drifting star]

Yea but some improvements to how the explosions and models look would be cool

[molten vault]

we could get eu5 graphics though

[drifting star]

Or 3 d rendering for the leaders

Any post ww2 mods ?

[molten vault]

cold war iron curtain

[wanton topaz]

still won’t be able to handle more than 2 cores

[fresh cedar]

Just had a terrible bug where my units could not move out of one specific tile in France. But for whatever reason the entirety of my army would be diverted and walk through it then get stuck. And it wasn’t a lack of supply or anything, they were just trapped. To get them out I’d legit have to delete them

[subtle gorge]

If hoi5 is made I feel like they gonna turn it into some other CK3 like game 💀

Ahem ahem EUV ahem

[thick edge]

This song is so majestic

Omg

Like this is absolute peak

[hollow lion]

Agree, one of my favorites

[subtle gorge]

If I were to buy GDR alone would it make the pass cheaper?

[hollow lion]

I think not?

[subtle gorge]

I hope cause damn 😭

[hollow lion]

Ive heard Steam makes it annoying to make bundles that work while already owning one of the items, that is the only reason why I think it might be the case

[brittle venture]

No

[subtle gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[polar jasper]

The entire Arms Against Tyranny OST is great

[late trench]

Säkkijärven polkka

Yes i preordered AAT

Did the same with LOTN in EU4 i think

[polar jasper]

I did the same

[late trench]

Only to play my own country tho

I never preorder otherwise

[polar jasper]

I have no clue about anything eu4

[polar jasper]

Pre-ordering is just gambling

[late trench]

Its ass and eu5 is coming soon anyways

[polar jasper]

I never do it with new games

[late trench]

I might preorder eu5

Depends on the pricing, but it looks actually amazing

[polar jasper]

I was glad I didn't pre-order Vic3

[late trench]

I bought it way too early

Its not bad

Id actually call it enjoyable

[polar jasper]

Well, it isn't really my type of game

[late trench]

Its very overpriced tho

[polar jasper]

At least for now

I don't know economics

[late trench]

Everything is overly unstablr

You get really easily into debt traps

Either you GDP skyrockets and you get tons of taxes and loyalists, or you eventually get into an eternal economic crash

[fading walrus]

try EU4 or 5

when 5 comes out

[stable mica]

How do you adjust the angled camera that you sometimes see in trailers?

[hollow coral]

dont think thats a feature for us

[fresh cedar]

Feel like they should start at $30-40 considering they’ll eventually have $300+ of DLC

[pearl beacon]

Eu4 is not ass

[late trench]

MP system is ass, economy system is ass, theres no levies, tech costs the same currency as generals, development, stab etc, rebellions never succeed, probably more

[pearl beacon]

fair opinion

[late trench]

EU5 makes not only (seems to) fix all of these, but it makes them PEAK

levies, MP and economy are the worst IMO

levies and economy are connected, in EU4 youre forced to make a standing army at game start / make a shitty merc force

[hollow lion]

@subtle swiftEnglish only

[subtle swift]

PUT A BUTTON TO DEACTIVATE AS AEREO ASCENDIDO NOTIFICATIONS. IT'S 100% USELESS NOTIFICATION SPAM THAT CAN'T BE DEACTIVATED, GOD.

I no play more hoi4 if no desactivated that shit, unplayable

[hollow lion]

I assume thats a minor event, which you can toggle under the decision tab

[subtle swift]

where?

[hollow lion]

very top of the decision tab

[subtle swift]

wwhat is decision tab?

literally i asked to chatgpt, and dont knew how

[brittle venture]

Dont ask chatgpt hoi questions just talk to people

[hearty blade]

Ask me im chatgpt but for hoi4

[smoky jungle]

Humanity is doomed

[near rover]

We know

[fading walrus]

the worlds ended twice

1200 BC and 476 AD

wait actually 3 times

220 AD too

Bronze age gave way to Classical antiquity antquity gave way to our world

[fading walrus]

It almost ended again in the 1200s too

[hearty blade]

dont forget 2012

[oak hatch]

istg man

i was playing some mod

as ussr

but like civil war but then when war with germany

somehow another soviet union joined my faction and stole any land i took

nvm wrong chat mb

[final parrot]

Not at all, Chat Gpt is still looking dumb people sometimes have to look things by themselves

[polar jasper]

"Theirselves"

[final parrot]

Sorry for not talking the native language Mr.Grammar 🙏

[polar jasper]

Didn't know

[fresh cedar]

Kinda funny how the Mughal India path gets the autonomy buff even though I’m pretty sure the other India is supposed to

Why would it get autonomy if it’s already free 💀

[cobalt jay]

I would disagree about 476

[dull tundra]

when does prototype vehicles release?

[fading walrus]

okay 3rd century AD then both East and West

[cobalt jay]

I mean arguably not much changed in 476

Outside of Italy that is

[fading walrus]

True Odacer and later Theodoric the Great viewed themselves as governors more than conquerers

I mean Odacer was a Roman General

before he deposed Romulus Augustulus

[fading walrus]

Italy didn't change that much either

until Justinian

so thats another 60 years

it was litterally called the Kingdom of Italy

[cobalt jay]

I mean even before Odacer, I would argue

[fading walrus]

though I'm more intrested in the Roman rump states

such as the Kingdom of Soissons, Kingdom of Dalamatia, and several Romano-berber Kingdoms

[cobalt jay]

I would argue the Western Roman Empire as a physical entity died in 461

[fading walrus]

468 IMO

battle of Cape bon

last major attempt by the West with the help of the East to take back Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Bon_(468)

[cobalt jay]

I would argue it ends with Ricimer beheading Majorian

[fading walrus]

true though Majorian was playing with a loosing hand from the get go IMO

even if he did succeed it would only buy the west a few decades

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

After Majorian, the Western Roman Empire exists in name only

[fading walrus]

Speaking of Majorian wasn’t initially recognized by the eastern empire

As their was a vacancy following the vandal sack

Until the Visigoths made avitius roman emperor

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Honestly a West African formable/content would be nice

Liberia becoming The United States of Africa 😂

[hollow coral]

Liberia in a america dlc

[fallen zenith]

Could be similar to what they did with aussa in BBA

[fresh cedar]

I’d hope it’d be more like the Brazilian United States of South America if it goes that route

[subtle onyx]

is the austria focus tree still bugged when going for the Otto-man achievement?

[fresh cedar]

Wonder when the prototype pack comes out

[fiery pollen]

OOOO

UPDATE

[quasi harbor]

Some of those units are just hilariously ridiculous

[marble plaza]

Already available

[fresh cedar]

It wasn’t until like 20 mins after I asked 😂

[polar jasper]

THANK YOU JOHN PARADOX

[fresh cedar]

Nice change

[polar jasper]

Holy smokes this was always tedious

[fresh cedar]

I wish you could create templates for MIO’s that can be applied to MIO trees when you start so you don’t have the select the same things every game

Hyped to play with the new models

[barren tusk]

wait it's released now?

[pseudo wing]

yessir it is

[fresh cedar]

Thanks Chak!

I know you didn’t create it but thanks for getting the word out 😂

[barren tusk]

wow so spontaneus ajajaa

[polar jasper]

Can you thank whoever did that change with MIOs for me

[fresh cedar]

He def released it because I asked

[pseudo wing]

ofc, I was trying not to say anything when it was live an hour ago but like a bundle wasnt live so I just had to sit here going 'don't say anything don't say anything'

[fresh cedar]

Dang

Secrecy again

[pseudo wing]

I'll pop this into one of the channels for ya sure

[barren tusk]

i suppose not only those no ?

[pseudo wing]

I am John Paradox wdym

[barren tusk]

you shown more than those 6

[pseudo wing]

if you go to the patch notes portion, there is a link there to a bunch more

the table lists everything

[barren tusk]

ahh

yeah i knew

but here you mentioned 6 so i was afraid you only added 6

AKJAJAJ

[polar jasper]

Dang, this is nice for those who missed it

What is March of the Eagles, was that for pre-ordering hoi4 itself?

[glossy widget]

Finally. Katyusha

[fresh cedar]

Hi John!

[fresh cedar]

Think it was La Resistance?

I have all of them but forget how I got that one

Man the Guns should’ve been “Over there”

[polar jasper]

I thought that pre order bonuses for dlc began with NSB

[polar jasper]

Battle Cry of Freedom would have been epic

Any USA rework needs an instrumental Battle Cry of Freedom

That way you can larp as either the Union or Confederacy

Since both sides used their own version

[fresh cedar]

It definitely was for La Resistance though

[polar jasper]

Interesting

[fresh cedar]

That would be sick

@pseudo wing So did they add the German Flying wing? I don’t see it on there but ironically that one lowkey was the most deserved one bc they made it 😂

And the one focus tree icon had it lol, along with the 2d art

They were even in the diaries I believe? For GDR

[barren tusk]

since we have all hope next big DLC is for japan

and country packs the remainins south america

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather see a North African/South Pacific rework for a country pack tbh

[barren tusk]

australia / new zelaand?

[fresh cedar]

Phillipines, Siam, Indochina, Malaysia, Indonesia

Or for North Africa, Morocco, Algeria, Italian Libya and Egypt

[barren tusk]

ohh that would be cool

and japan rework as well as china focus tree and mongolia new focus tree

mongolia has potential

[fresh cedar]

Potential sure I just fear it wouldn’t be able to expand much

[barren tusk]

i would like countries with his own dependant

[fresh cedar]

Would have similar issues to GOE where expansion was limited

[barren tusk]

would be hard like genghis kan did

[fresh cedar]

Egypt actually should be independent at game start

[barren tusk]

honestly from my point of view, africa and ocenia i don't see interest in my gameplay

far away, low objectives

[fresh cedar]

North Africa was very vital to the war due to supply routes and basically exposed Italy/UK to isolation

And was resource rich

[pseudo wing]

I am not sure, I am both bad with names and remembering things lmao

[fresh cedar]

Shucks, thanks though

[barren tusk]

btw silly question protypes vehicles are special project right?

[fresh cedar]

Agreed with Oceania because island hopping kinda annoying and not much room to expand.

[fresh cedar]

Think they’re aesthetic, so just 3d models. But many are for special projects

[barren tusk]

true also imagine constantly naval invading countries with a poor economy

long game honestly

[fresh cedar]

So lame 😂

Southeast Asia is a little better bc could have more goals I guess

[barren tusk]

but again if i have to bet i would love what you said or the remainins south america

[fresh cedar]

And they’re super resource rich

[barren tusk]

in fact i'm starting liking to play more south america

very entertaining

[fresh cedar]

Oh like Carribean, central and the northern section?

[barren tusk]

i wanna do gran colombia

[fresh cedar]

Fourth Reich Argentina and Communist Brazil genuinely my favorite countries to play

[barren tusk]

brasil, argetina chile uruguay

[fresh cedar]

Do it as Peru bc they can core Bolivia too

[fresh cedar]

I meant for those left to rework

[barren tusk]

the south america remainin reworks are peru ecuador venezuela colombia and bolivia

Peru and colombia both most

peru in south america is very challenge

with no focus tree lol

[stable tusk]

They finally fixed Shaken not Stirred lets go

[barren tusk]

what happened this bug?

[fresh cedar]

I’d really like Central American and carribean stuff too but not a priority

[stable tusk]

What

[fresh cedar]

Try El Salvador if you haven’t, fun to unite

[barren tusk]

why?

[barren tusk]

the fixes bug

[fresh cedar]

It can core all of Central America and is just a fun little challenge

[kindred beacon]

MIO no longer costs XP to increase level? Based.

[barren tusk]

i don't know if there will add twice a row asian country packs

remember we got graveyard of empires

they will move out either america europe or africa

[fresh cedar]

They’ve added multiple European ones in a row

[quick sleet]

Look cool the new vehicles

[fresh cedar]

I wouldn’t rule it out

[brittle venture]

hi chak!

[kindred beacon]

GOE also was middle eastern too

[brittle venture]

theres haters on this server

[kindred beacon]

East Asia could be a dlc

[barren tusk]

i mean because the game cores happend in Europe 😅

[barren tusk]

this might be the gross DLC

like germany

[fresh cedar]

I have to check but I think originally it was going to be added to GDR, but wasn’t and then they said they would for this pack. Really hope it’s in but I’ll let you know if it isn’t

[barren tusk]

but to japan

[quick sleet]

The best lands

[fresh cedar]

It’s not called a World War for nothing lol. Just as much happened in Asia

[quick sleet]

But what are the best lands

[brittle venture]

the european:

[fresh cedar]

About half the deaths in WW2 were in Asia

So definitely isn’t just a European war

[quick sleet]

Just numbers

95% talking about Europe if you say ww2

Asia is a little different

[fresh cedar]

The war in China was massive, the Japanese invasion of the pacific, the war between US and Japan, invasion of Burma, the eventual Soviet invasion of Manchuria

Genuinely isn’t just numbers

[kindred beacon]

Gross as in disgusting?

[brittle venture]

because ur western thats how that works people usually focus events around themselves yes

[kindred beacon]

I liked GD

[quick sleet]

It was but it wasn't a war of all the majors

Just at the end

[kindred beacon]

China was one of the major allied powers in ww2

[fresh cedar]

Nah when I think WW2, I think WORLD WAR as in it took place across the world. And often regard Asia just as much as Europe. Thats just a Eurocentric mindset

[kindred beacon]

US, USSR, China, and the British Empire

[fresh cedar]

China, Japan, UK, India, USA and Soviets literally all fought in Asia lol

[quick sleet]

At the end

[kindred beacon]

Exactly, the Chinese fought basically alone against Japanese imperialism

[fresh cedar]

No, they all fought apart form the Soviets at the end

[barren tusk]

when we talk about asia we only say china and japan no?

[quick sleet]

The most of the war happened in Europe

[kindred beacon]

Even the US didn't give them much support

[barren tusk]

asia = japan and china

??

[kindred beacon]

The Flying Tigers were volunteers

[fresh cedar]

India, Southeast Asia, and the pacific

[quick sleet]

39-45 was in Europe mid 45 in asia

[brittle venture]

me when i have brain damage

[quick sleet]

37 japan started

[fresh cedar]

WW2 started in Asia first 😉

[kindred beacon]

I wouldn't mind a DLC reworking Japan, China, and Australia. Maybe focuses for Thailand and Dutch East Indies too

[quick sleet]

Yes

[pearl beacon]

Japan China war?

[fresh cedar]

If Asia wasn’t important it would just be called Napoleonic Wars V2 uno reversal edition

[quick sleet]

But it was a different war and goal as Europe

[quick sleet]

The influence in whole world was important

[fresh cedar]

Japans goal was to take over a continent as was Germanys. And everyone else stopped them

[quick sleet]

They created aly from 41 no?

[fresh cedar]

They effectively had their own factions but also dabbled in Axis and Allies

[quick sleet]

Germany at start only wanted Europe

Them it spread out

Then

[fresh cedar]

Same with Japan

[barren tusk]

you cannot call a world war only when there is one dispute. IMO the second world war is because countries started to deciding who support.

[fresh cedar]

Japan wanted Asia then considered the Americas

[quick sleet]

They created the alliance later

[fresh cedar]

I mean even South America contributed to the war. It is in no means just a European war lol

[quick sleet]

Only sent bannanas 🍌

[barren tusk]

lol

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/vincent-gif-4983399

[quick sleet]

Africa was big part of

[fresh cedar]

Meanwhile Turkey:

[quick sleet]

North America support

Australia fought against japan right

[fresh cedar]

Think Brazil actually took part in invasions

[quick sleet]

I don't know

[barren tusk]

my question is Joe P u say japan was the first in starting the war and you consider since asia took part in the WW2 should'nt be called european core however italy before 39 started conquering ethiopia. so africa as well was the start of WW2?

[fresh cedar]

In Italy yeah

[fresh cedar]

Yes

Hence world war

[quick sleet]

It doesn't was world war in 37

[fresh cedar]

It was many wars that coalesced into one greater conflict

[quick sleet]

Because it was only 2 powers

The great majors were targeting Europe

Most of time

[barren tusk]

again putting "world" must be a open war where all countries or atleast many of them contributes to the war either attacking, choosing sides, sending aid etc...

1 or 2 disputes cannot be defined as WORLD otherwise right know we would be in WW3 since ukraine, india, palestine etc...

[quick sleet]

But Asia was important too

India sent a lot of soldiers too

[fresh cedar]

I just view it differently ig because it’s what’s eventually led to it. If you go by that strict definition it’s 1939

[quick sleet]

Who we have as majors today Russia usa india china

[fresh cedar]

Some even consider the invasion of Manchuria by Japan in 1931 as the start 😂

I just say 1937 bc the sides helping either side in China then how that eventually transitioned in the greater war

Think in terms of HOI4, it’s even moreso the case

[barren tusk]

we declared WW2 started in 39 and not before when japanise conquered because countries didn't stand to support neither china nor japan. however hitler start was the beginning of choosing sides who to alliance. who to send aid etc..

[quick sleet]

True

[fresh cedar]

Just for the sake of HOI4 I see the Japanese invasion as the start is all

[barren tusk]

we are discussing real life no?

[fresh cedar]

Especially if they add more Asian content

[quick sleet]

Japan joined more in 41

They fought only China

[fresh cedar]

Nah I’m moreso talking HOI4 bc this all started due to saying it would be weird having 2 Asians dlcs back to back

But I said they’ve done that for Europe

And I think Asia is just as valid as getting two doses of content in a row as is Europe

Bc world war

[barren tusk]

there are many european countries with huge value to be reworked.

france
UK
chezk
romania
yugoslavia

[fresh cedar]

Tbh I think France and UK are like 75% fine, just need military reworks. Their diplomacy trees pretty solid and may only need a focus or two

[barren tusk]

after asia big DLC pretty sure they will move to allies. USA UK france

[barren tusk]

outdated focus tree

[quick sleet]

They must do for everyone

[barren tusk]

since now we have more cores

[fresh cedar]

But would like to see them get the Army, Air and Navy spirits

[quick sleet]

Germany is the best rn right

[barren tusk]

also poor ireland luxemboiurg and albaia wih no DLC

[fading walrus]

1 division in italy in 1944

[fresh cedar]

Balkans I don’t super care about. Would be nice to get content but would much rather other places

[barren tusk]

yeah a allies rework or uk/france rework would be a germany indirectly nerf because they will buff the defends

dunno

[fading walrus]

China regional pack or Japan overhaul with Asian colonies would be nice

[fading walrus]

Or this

[barren tusk]

if they add another asia bug DLC for god and sake they add mongolia focus tree

[fresh cedar]

IMO they’re fine. Like I said could use tweaks but don’t need anything major

[fresh cedar]

I fear it would be Japan and Southeast Asia tbh.

[fading walrus]

UK was in a very bad position in 1936 irl economic wise

[quick sleet]

It's will be good now Germany always win

Soviet are strong but Germany became more a lot

[fading walrus]

France with little entente rework?

[fresh cedar]

Atleast Germany stagnates economically now

So they kinda have a lower max factory limit

[fading walrus]

P.E.G > 4yp

[barren tusk]

luckily with non historical austria faction is strong he can invite almost 70 of the world

JAJAJAJJA

[fresh cedar]

Idk, France really isn’t that bad. But I genuinely enjoy the monarchy trees

[quick sleet]

Ja

[fresh cedar]

I just did a historical France yesterday and it was fun

[barren tusk]

france the problem is the cooked focus tree is short just proclaim and that's it

[fading walrus]

Im gonna do a Napoleonic run when I get back from golf

[quick sleet]

Asia has a lot of ponteial

[barren tusk]

the best one napoleon

overall isn't great

[quick sleet]

Not only Japan china siam and more middle east

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather short and to the point than long and bloated like India

[fading walrus]

Im gonna try to survive until 1948

For that achievement

[barren tusk]

my last game was india playing as pakistan and trying to establish timurida empire

[fading walrus]

I usually quit because I get bored

[fresh cedar]

The one where you unite with Spain is pretty nice bc you get like 80 mil core. And the constitutionalist one gets like +1% weekly stability which is cracked

[quick sleet]

It's very strong

[barren tusk]

that focus tree i would like otherway around

akajajjaja

[fresh cedar]

Genuinely all the monarchy trees are fun

[quick sleet]

Always

[fading walrus]

All except Iceland

Monarchist Iceland just exists

[barren tusk]

agree

[fading walrus]

Agreed

[fresh cedar]

Bc constitutional has insane stability buffs and a strong economy. Middle gets good flat cores and a secure behind. Then Napoleon gets early war goals

[barren tusk]

for example germany even if is only kaiser monarchy is pretty fun

[fading walrus]

I only play Monarchy

[quick sleet]

I think Japan and china will be next and then us and uk

[fresh cedar]

IMO French monarchies lowkey the best done monarchy trees in game

[barren tusk]

it's more enjoyable like poland selecting 4 types of monarchy

poland is really cool

[fresh cedar]

Poland is good too

[quick sleet]

Unite Europe just annex your faction

[barren tusk]

unfornately poland in historical i struggle

😦

so i don't play it

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

[quick sleet]

Unite slavs

[fading walrus]

Or restore brest litovsk borders

[fresh cedar]

I tend to just do Anastasia Poland or Commonwealth

[barren tusk]

my forbidden nations are poland and spain

both the most suffer

[quick sleet]

Too broken factions

[fresh cedar]

Spain is really fun too

[quick sleet]

Also

[fresh cedar]

Anarchist, Spanish Empire, and Carlist best imo

The new end goal of the Spanish empire is super fun

[quick sleet]

Persian empire now very nice

[fresh cedar]

And Carlist actually got a new advisor that gives insane compliance growth

[barren tusk]

i'm from spain and i don't play it because vene if i am 3 hours with the game i'm still in civil war or i cannot participate to much abroad spain to do core aragon lands or americas

[fresh cedar]

Barely tried

[fading walrus]

Hot take I like the Tsar path…

[fresh cedar]

Only played Persia on GOE release and it hurt

[barren tusk]

which?

[fresh cedar]

You absorb all the former American possessions

[fading walrus]

Get south and Central America back fully cored

[quick sleet]

Now it's better

[fresh cedar]

Coring them all, getting like 170 mil core manpower total

[barren tusk]

see, spain is really cool focus tree but debuffs makes the country unfun

seriously u finish the civil war and then?

[quick sleet]

Mogul empire was hurt

[fresh cedar]

Spain can core this now as fascist Spanish empire

[fading walrus]

China, USA and Japan are the ones On hopeful for

[barren tusk]

should be both

carlism had the ideas to make spain great again

i don't know why they split

[fading walrus]

Yeah they should share war goals

[fresh cedar]

Carlism now has insane compliance buffs so while you can’t core you can get compliance very fast

I like they have different goals

[barren tusk]

i believe fascim don't have claim all aragon lands whereas carlism yes right?

[fresh cedar]

Carlism is like conquer everything and Spanish empire is to retake what we had

[fresh cedar]

Spanish Empire actually cores Iberia

[barren tusk]

yes but the previous land of aragon?

[fresh cedar]

Whereas Carlism can form Iberia

[barren tusk]

sicilia, netherlands

[fresh cedar]

Only gets wargoals

[barren tusk]

yeah but with fascism or carlism?

[fresh cedar]

But genuinely, you get like +0.05 daily compliance with Carlist which is cracked. That’s like double the normal speed and doesn’t slow down at high compliance

[fresh cedar]

Idk

[quick sleet]

Very nice

Which goe you most liked

[fresh cedar]

Spanish Empire goal basically is to “Unite all Hispanics” whereas Carlism is to Hispanify everything

[fresh cedar]

Hashemite Iraq and Communist India

[quick sleet]

Communist india good?

[fresh cedar]

Yeah it basically stabilizes India the fastest, gets the strongest economy quickest and gets rid of its population debuffs fast

So effectively can make use of everything India has the fastest

[quick sleet]

Influence the comunism in asia

[fresh cedar]

Yeah

[quick sleet]

Spread it

[fresh cedar]

And now has 2 military paths

It’s as good as communist Brazil imo

[quick sleet]

I must try it i tried the historical, company and mughal as India

Mughal was most hard

[fresh cedar]

Mughals were nerfed pretty bad. Are meh now imo

Like they have the coolest goals but are difficult

[quick sleet]

Really

Maybe because i didn't try them before

[quick sleet]

True

[fresh cedar]

Mughal was OP on release, but is now kinda mid

[quick sleet]

What nerfed them

[fresh cedar]

You have to take Sinkiang to progress. But like, Sinkiang is really hard to take

The OP elephants used to make it doable

[quick sleet]

Ohhhh yes

[fresh cedar]

But they were nerfed bad

[quick sleet]

Elephants still strong but expensive

They used to be cheaper?

[fresh cedar]

Stronger

[quick sleet]

Ohhhhh

Wow

Now they mid

But modern anti drones

[fresh cedar]

Used to be like 25-50% stronger

Still strong but not insane

[barren tusk]

@fresh cedar how do you manage to kill Hitler and Stalin tanks?

I struggle when I'm carlism

Even with anti tanks is not enough

[fresh cedar]

Just go slow and expand at a rate you can support. And I tend to build lvl 2-6 forts on my border with them

[quick sleet]

Yes

[fresh cedar]

Also try to puppet Portugal so you can form Iberia

[barren tusk]

I'm talking more in civil war

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Hey Chak who should I reach out about the Ho 229? It’s the German fixed wing bomber

Originally we had these photos alluding to it going into the game.

Like it’s in focus tree icons, the 2d art, and the 3d model was in dev diaries I believe, but it isn’t in game

Can’t remember if it was Arheo who replied about it originally on the forums or here

[pseudo wing]

uh, not sure off the top of my head, will bring it up in my mornin meeting tomorrow though

see if I can get you an answer

[fresh cedar]

Thank you! I just think it’s weird that we have all the images for it but it isn’t in game

[fresh cedar]

I appreciate it! I know you don’t have to but it means a lot

[karmic spoke]

is someone going to host a game?

[fresh cedar]

This is just a lil more evidence, with it being in the cover art for GDR. Sorry if I’m posting so much about, just want to present evidence I guess

[pseudo wing]

no I get it, though I could probably do without all the pings aha

[fresh cedar]

It might’ve been forgotten actually 😂

[latent prawn]

Shhh

[drifting star]

Can we please get some new peace out options for soviets ?

Where the Germans just grab what they historically wanted and that’s it

Would make German games much easier to play through

[polar jasper]

Form collab governments if you have la resistance

Otherwise the push to the Urals isn't the worst if you have encircled and destroyed large portions of the red army

[brisk patrol]

is there a map? I am curious to see what they wanted historically

[brisk patrol]

ahhh is this the lebensraum map

[drifting star]

Yes

[brittle venture]

Germany isnt hard 😭

Nor is it the only nation

[harsh hull]

That is far from what Germany "wanted" in WW2

That's just a map of how far they got before reality caught up

[cold gale]

im guessing in 2-3 weeks we'll be getting our first dev diary for the new dlc?

[rain thunder]

the mio change is awesome

[thick edge]

Weren’t u literally saying it’s hard earlier

[final parrot]

No?

[brittle venture]

That was cuz i was playing sheeps mod and i got truth nuked on my fuel thats differeny

If you actually play the nation more than once a month its easy

[hoary siren]

Probably not. I’d say later in the year

Probably release Q1-Q2 2026

[mystic stone]

https://tenor.com/view/free-gif-13304638932589783966

[rocky escarp]

can someone confirm if this is available for Czecho-Slovakia?
Patch notes only say they added prototype vehicle model for 'Czech Republic'

I mean I know the table says CZE but that's a strange patchnote

[hollow coral]

probably only for CZE tag

prototype pack is singlehandedly saving hoi4

[rocky escarp]

Well CZE tag better include Czecho-Slovakia at game start

[hollow coral]

czechia just has the CZE tag

Czechia is the same thing as czechoslovakia

just slovakia is different

[rocky escarp]

It would be pretty arbitrary if a vehicle model was exclusive to a tag with a certain cosmetic name

[rocky escarp]

Hmm? United Kingdom in the top patchnote but England in the table?
Ah and it is Czechoslovakia in the table on the Steam announcement

Why are they so inconsistent between platforms?

[hollow coral]

You do realise they are just the tags for the countries

[rocky escarp]

Yes

[hollow coral]

ENG for uk because england is the main component

Also if you decide to breakup uk in the gamerules uk becomes england

As in england has uk tree

[rocky escarp]

That doesn't change the fact that they're ballsing up the patchnotes in a way that's at best confusing to me (for CZE) and at worst gets them mocked on the Steam discussion forum (for England)

[hollow coral]

Not rlly a big deal

Tags are pretty self explanatory

[rocky escarp]

Kinda is when you're advertising which countries are having these new models and you're saying Czech Republic at the top

[hollow coral]

[rain thunder]

how does the mio change work for ships?

[dense gale]

spg might be slightly overtuned 😂

[hearty blade]

MORE SOFT ATTACK

MORE SOFT ATTACK

[polar jasper]

I was thinking of this too. It would be nice if it kept progress on the line but update the mio

[rain thunder]

so how does it work, SPGs get a flat 15% soft attack now?

[rain thunder]

that would be great, i hate how fiddly it is

[iron spindle]

Can someone confrim if Prototype Tanks DLC is just skin or it actually opens a new type of tank?

[cosmic stag]

idk man

you can test it out yourself if you have the dlc

or you can wait till Hoi4 ytbers make vids

[pseudo wing]

It is a cosmetic pack, no gameplay advantages or mechanics

[cosmic stag]

oh alr

[fresh cedar]

Main advantage is that you look cool

[pseudo wing]

facts tho

also @fresh cedar I have someone looking into your question from yesterday, I dont have an answer yet but I put it through

[polar jasper]

Helicopter tank with helicopter battalions

You just win as the enemy has to bow down to aussie coolness

[pseudo wing]

imagine that's how people actually island hopped lol

[hearty pasture]

how do u use the new prototypes

i dont see them anywhere in game

[polar jasper]

Graphics model thing

[pseudo wing]

They're 3d models you can select when making your designs

[polar jasper]

Bottom right in unit designer

[hearty pasture]

bruh so its not actually a different tank

[polar jasper]

No

[hearty pasture]

wow

[polar jasper]

It was always a unit icon pack

Just like the armor packs of before

[dense gale]

yes base

[brittle venture]

First remotely sane change 🥳

(theyre still worse without spg mio until like last tech tho lol)

[dense gale]

no idts

i think it out stat once u reach 1941 no

because even back than spg outstat normal in width

u just needed all the tech

[brittle venture]

It equalled out at last tech before lol

You can rush it down

But still thats late

[fresh cedar]

Thanks Chak!

I double checked all the German aircraft in game and it definitely isn’t in it

[drifting star]

Resources rework ?

[wraith prawn]

Resources are fine rn ngl

What's missing would be a stockpile building to prevent losing production instantly when you're lacking resources

[urban wraith]

doctrines need to rework 4 doctrine 2 branches and left branch of 1,2 doctrine it's trash unplayable

[brittle venture]

????

Only desperate defense of mobile warfare is redeemable while deep battle is goated

Theres some stinkers but theyre not those 2

[urban wraith]

this piece of shit branches no one pick, but someone pick it for partisans tactics but if you pick that you will suck 100%

left branch in 4 doctrine is shittiest in this game it's so weak

[thick edge]

Nah bro don’t fw mass assault

[urban wraith]

I know what I'm talking about, it's all been tested, it all needs a revork or buffs

[hearty blade]

mass assault so op

[brittle venture]

If you pick mobile warfare you will suck anyway

Guerrilla just makes it viable defensively

Mass mob is incredibly strong

go to gg/redbaron if you wanna talk to all the smart players and theyll tell you 👀

[urban wraith]

4 doctine right branch need a LOT of infantry equipment and manpower, major countries like soviets maybe but i don't sure them can defeat germany with this branch germany have 1 doctrine tanks and cas soviets fully infantry equipment. I've heard of this template but i don't sure that he can stand up to a bunch of tanks.

[brittle venture]

It can, just battleplan frontline

Its annoying to counter

Germany can mass mob too

You get 5% recruitable anyway

Its deep battle that actually takes manpower

But then you have OP inf + planning bonus

Mass mob only sucks if you suck 👀

Even chinese meta uses deep battle

[urban wraith]

if you battleplan you will loss all of your infantry equip and support equip
enemy inf in 1941 have 1300 defence and 400 soft in defence man 18 combat width i don't understand what are you talking about

[brittle venture]

No

Make more

And higher hp = lower losses

You should know this if you want to argue

In fact this is the strongest battleplan division in the game

[urban wraith]

yea but your infantry only have hp not soft

[brittle venture]

Youre thinking of this as a 1v1

A battle of 1 tile vs 1 tile

On 1 tile vs 1 tile they lose to tanks

But there is a wider frontline, they can break all infantry rather easily, and then it doesnt matter how strong your tanks are, they get pinned down and encircled or are forced to retreat

[urban wraith]

maybe in sov frontline you are right but tanks will easily encircle this expensive divisions

[brittle venture]

China frontline, raj frontline, french frontline

Anything more than like 10 tiles

And theres not "1" of them

They dont get encircled

Its your whole frontline

Every unit is those

[urban wraith]

this is soooooo expensive i don't know when you make this divisions in mp game to 41 year vs germany with air\cas and tanks i don't understand how it will work vs them, battleplan vs fully entrenchment 20x4 or 3x20 (if more tanks) width divisions in every single tile
okay just what about this shit?

[brittle venture]

Id say its more the tank "buffs" on mobile warfare that suck and are bs

All of superior firepower is ehhhh at best

But usable

The only way to use SFP is right left

[wraith prawn]

I like to say SFP is not the best at anything but good enough at everything

[urban wraith]

if you play vs tanks it will be good but in another scenario yea

[brittle venture]

No

It doesnt buff their stats at all

Just gives them org

[urban wraith]

more breakthrough?

[brittle venture]

Org is the stat you get for free when increasing hp

Less than gbp

1% planning = 1% attack stats

The breakthrough stat is also only your defense against (defensive) enemy attacks

So like if youre charging a defensive line thats their ability to protect themselves

You also get enough breakthrough against ai/players on tanks anyway

Its a terrible tank doctrine

Which is ironic because thats in the name

Ironically the same thing goes for superior firepower

Out of all doctrines it fields line artillery like the worst

[urban wraith]

if you play vs anti-tanks tanks, which have 1500 defense and 800 hard attack it nice, but no one makes this for defence

[brittle venture]

you still dont need the breakthrough

You get enough naturally + more overall with gbp planning

[urban wraith]

yea gbp is the best doctrine in this game only spies can counter it

[brittle venture]

Tied to mass mob because mass mob is goated

Beats anything else decisively yes

[urban wraith]

I agree with you that 1 doctrine is very bad for tanks actually, the only thing it gives better than others it is speed to the vehicles and considering the general staff +5% and +10% from Guderian (only germany paradoxes good job) they are very fast.

20% speed+ 5%+10% guderian

in general terms, these branches are crap paradoxes, buff them.

[thick edge]

If u just like… get better at the game, u will be fine without buffs

They are fine as it is

[urban wraith]

nah, i played 2k hours in this game the only thing i didn't do is not capture a dumb bot having only 1 division
want to make all branches of all doctrines playable, unfortunately my requirements can only be fulfilled by mods at the moment.
You're right that you can play without buffs, but it's more fun with buffs.

There are no claims to air and sea doctrines, for example, if you wanted to go to strat. bombers, you went to strat. bombers and do not worry about which branch to go to so that these strat. bombers were stronger Whatever where it says strats means strats will be a little stronger than the one who did not go to them

if you play in multiplayer you obviously look at every buff because if you don't have it you can lose to someone who has it
against a bot you can play any shit there it doesn't matter

[hearty blade]

this is infact false

[polar jasper]

Paradox did an oopsie...

The FV4005 – Centaur is unable to be placed on Centurion chassis… despite being on a Centurion chassis

Game is unplayable

I guess it is an Advanced Heavy Tank instead

[brittle venture]

Wtf

Thats messed up

[polar jasper]

I'm making a bug report because of this attrocity

LMAO you can make an FV4005 on an inter-war heavy

I have submitted the bug report

If they fix it, I will rate the DLC positively instead of not rating DLC as usual lol

[brittle venture]

Thats gonna be company changing

[polar jasper]

Alright, back to making my tank designs

[polar jasper]

Wow, France has a Modern TD model but Britain doesn't

[oblique bobcat]

Mods

https://tenor.com/view/mods-ban-this-guy-can-we-ban-this-guy-mod-moderator-moderators-gif-4656455223274005082

[fading walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKIJqMbxHcQ

I somewhat agree with this video (the GoE part) but alot of the prototypes did infact exist

also the alt history stuff has been around since TfV

also he brought up pre selecting focus paths

which I'm not sure how thats going to work

[polar jasper]

I was always fine with alt history and some of the wackiness. The only part that needs to be serious are historical and the slightly alt-history historical paths. Otherwise wacky paths are fine.

[fading walrus]

this

[brittle venture]

Theyre just models

[fresh cedar]

I feel like focuses are kind of adaptive to what’s going on in a game. Probably wouldn’t be good

[fresh cedar]

Plus it’s just a 3d model pack, and unit packs have come out for a long time

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[wraith prawn]

this is really good

[heavy notch]

how do you get the icons

[brittle venture]

Its a mod on steam

Modifier icons

[heavy notch]

oh right

[brittle venture]

Personally dont use it

[polar jasper]

I did it... I finally made templates for all the prototype vehicles. I am done

Wonder if I can copy the folders I save the templates to

[brittle venture]

Show

[mild lynx]

anyone know what happened to the content creator packs?

i really liked the last one style

they should release for other countries

[polar jasper]

Let me boot up the game

Wait... I still have the folder(?) copied to clipboard

Not sure if it is everything as it might only be the light tanks

[stable tusk]

I know there's a community one for the La Resistance countries and another one for the Soviets

[polar jasper]

I have another folder for the planes

[thick edge]

Hm

Good to know

[polar jasper]

This is what the game gave me

I guess you paste it into the game and win

It should be all of the prototype tanks with accurate* designs

I had to take creative liberties with some

[polar jasper]

How many pages was this

[thick edge]

4 I think

[polar jasper]

Epic PDX moment

From what I can tell, there is no actual folder

The folder is a lie

It is only a 4 page long string of text

[urban wraith]

waiting for mio templates, focuses 35 days and more minor balance improvements

[wise oxide]

not a single soul made a video about prototype vehicles

[thick edge]

Well I think there is a difference between rating a visual dlc and an actual dlc

[wise oxide]

aint there unique stats and uses for those

[thick edge]

No

It’s just tank models

[wise oxide]

wait fr?

i tought it was special projects

[thick edge]

I’m pretty sure it is

[wise oxide]

what a waste of resources