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hollow coral
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cuz germany is too main character

tacit sequoia
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True

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Also both syndicalist and Marxist tree

hollow coral
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why doesnt germany have communist tree already

tacit sequoia
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Nope

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Damn

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It’s only the evil side vs monarchist side

hollow coral
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by allying with everyone

tacit sequoia
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Russia should have a tiny democratic path tbh

hollow coral
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honestly yes

tacit sequoia
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RT56 gives that, and also Russian reworked mod

hollow coral
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i dont think russia has ever been democratic other then a few short periods

tacit sequoia
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You’re right tho

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It was conquered by Ivan the terrible which made it authoritarian

hollow coral
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im still surprised thailand doesnt have a focus tree

tacit sequoia
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Same

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Maybe it’ll be part of the USA Japan Pacific War Rework next year

hollow coral
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desperately

tacit sequoia
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true

hollow coral
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cuz its just historical

tacit sequoia
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All trees prior to NSB need rework lol

hollow coral
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since waking the tiger is in the base game i think they could introduce a new one

hollow coral
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the monarchist and fascist are pretty bland

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i cant believe the communist has a bigger one

tacit sequoia
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow coral
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but the tree is basically wargoals

tacit sequoia
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USA needs better democratic tree

hollow coral
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so still pretty bad

hollow coral
tacit sequoia
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I’m just waiting for what they’re gonna do today

hollow coral
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the teaser was very vague and just gave more questions

mellow rapids
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There is something today ?

mental onyx
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I hope so

hexed mango
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straving

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doubt there would be something today

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but I hope I am wrong

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but I know we won't get anything...

chilly drum
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Let me check steamdb

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Nothing

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Last test patch update was month ago

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.. which is kind of strange, they just put it there for the whole vacation period?

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Im not a game dev, just wondering how those thing works

mental onyx
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what's a test patch?

chilly drum
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I ment testing depot update

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You can see when its get updated on steamdb, its just a container to test a wip version of the game update in secure environment

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We can't see or access it, but we can see when there are some changes happening to it

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A change might be an indicator of patch getting tested

swift mortar
tacit sequoia
chilly drum
tacit sequoia
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Ok then :p

chilly drum
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Let me share the knowledge.

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Just scroll down ad bit and look for changes with atlantis rising in them

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Thats how they call test depot.

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Works on any other paradox game.

solid gyro
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something is happening today?

wise oxide
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dawg its the first of the month will we get anything? some news

chilly drum
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..was there an even before?

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In the server's event tab.

rugged cosmos
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18 minutes

hexed mango
rugged cosmos
hexed mango
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doubt...

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man there is nothing we can do now that the doomsday clock reached 16:00 now

fresh cedar
wise oxide
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atleast something small?

fresh cedar
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They said they would do minor updates for free which they did. Though hoping they keep that up

hexed mango
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Nothing for you finnish boy

fresh cedar
wise oxide
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atleast im on vacation cant play anyways

harsh hull
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Step 1: Go to #faq message and follow the relevant link to access the news channel

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Step 2: Wait for news to be posted in the news channel so you know that there's news

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Step 3: Stop asking about news that doesn't exist outside the news channel

fresh cedar
fresh cedar
latent hill
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so any news?

wheat fulcrum
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Yes

solid gyro
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this map sucks cause it makes it seem like all the germans vanished in a day

zenith cargo
hexed mango
solid gyro
hexed mango
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Not a very smart response

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But ok

solid gyro
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if somebody goes on a killing spree then gets pardoned and goes on a killing spree again do you think they deserve to still live?

hexed mango
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So you're advocating for genocide?

solid gyro
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nah

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just kidding!

hexed mango
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Read what you just asked me

bold latch
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Waaaahh

vernal smelt
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Hi I am new to the server

vernal smelt
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Thank you

royal geyser
chilly drum
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..can communist comment "OUR SERVER"?

bold latch
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There is no communism

solid gyro
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i am so bored and hoi4 update deprived that im doing a hungary wc

fair yew
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If only the great powers didnt intervene and mess in the balkans and then call the balkans a powder keg

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#Srbe na vrbe

obtuse mango
solid gyro
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i dont know how to get ducats easily

bold latch
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not real communism

ionic moat
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Ig u could call DPRK communist or china

solid gyro
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my brother keeps using easybuff bru

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what nation should i play btw

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like

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right this second

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wrong channel

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im stupid

latent hill
hollow idol
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expecting a trailer date by mid month

marsh chasm
hexed mango
dense gale
hollow idol
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they gonna want to put another dlc out before christmas.

dense gale
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they would have started dev diaries way before

hollow idol
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you need to be able to profit logically to stay in buissness.

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people buy more during christmas season

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sure a sell helps, but what helps more is a full price new dlc.

dense gale
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la resistance came up in feb

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and if u really think the dlc will come on christmas

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it would be a very lackluster dlc

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which it doesnt seem to be since its a germany rework

hollow idol
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and sitting there finished

dense gale
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its not lol

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if it was they would have started posting dev diaries in june

hollow idol
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doubt.

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they have a holiday in July dog.

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they wouldnt post dev diaries for a dlc that early.

dense gale
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they do

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for nsb

hollow idol
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keep in mind their holiday in July

dense gale
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bba

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and aat

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it all started in may or june my guy

hollow idol
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i doubt feb

dense gale
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its gonna be

hollow idol
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watch me be right itll be out by december.

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you just wrong dog

dense gale
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enjoy the copium

hollow idol
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thats way to long to wait for a dlc

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to drop

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sale slumps

dense gale
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bftb to nsb was a year lol

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and bftb was a content pack

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u just arnt used to paradox release timings

hollow idol
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No step back dropped in novemeber

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your literally stupid

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its on the wiki

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arms dropped in october.

dense gale
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yea

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when did thir dev diaris come out tho

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april and may

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iirc

hollow idol
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together for victory-december

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battle for bospurs-october

dense gale
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whats ur point

hollow idol
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your just wrong

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majority dropped around oct,nov,dec

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with a few in july and aug

dense gale
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look at their dev diaries timing 😭

hollow idol
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they wont wait that long

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realistically speaking

dense gale
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they all start in april or may

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for all dlc

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unless paradox stop releasing dev diaries

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which is even more unlikely

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and look at lar release cycle

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paradox said the first dlc dev diary will come this q3

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la resistance first dev diaries was in late q3

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paradox is very consistent in this kinda stuff

hexed mango
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They never gonma release this dlc

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It's literally ovr

solid gyro
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Germany, Austria, Czechs/Slovakia, Hungary maybe even Independent state of Croatia, Luxemoburg or Belgium

trim quartz
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Liechtenstein reforms the Holy Roman Empire, come on paradox

chilly drum
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Thats like up to September 30, two months

hexed mango
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We will get a german + 2 minors

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  • a tiny focus for maybe louxembourg
opal hill
solid gyro
placid linden
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“South America DLC!” (Literally 3 focus trees and 2 mini trees with no new features) idk how modders that work alone or in small groups act faster with updates and balancing than paradox ever does

tacit sequoia
robust herald
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the focuses are debateable but yk

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and arms agianst tyranny

hexed mango
# placid linden “South America DLC!” (Literally 3 focus trees and 2 mini trees with no new featu...

In it's early days the game dlcs were basically set to be something along these lines
Major dlc: new mechanics, 2 major nations focus tree reworks + 2 minor nations new focus trees (for 20$)
Country pack: 4 minor nation focus trees (for 10$)

How it actually is after literally the 2nd major dlc:
Major dlc: new mechanics, 1 major nation focus tree rework, 2 minor nations new focus trees (for the same price)
Country pack: 3 minor nations new focus trees OR 3 minor nations focus trees with shared branches and 2 extra minor focuses (for 50% more the price of a country pack dlc)

marsh chasm
tacit sequoia
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i feel like Germany Czechoslovakia and Hungary are getting reworks, since they're all considered part of germany's "power" to the axis. and Austria Belgium and Luxembourg getting trees.

hexed mango
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It will be germany and new austria with either new belgium or reworked czechoslovakia

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That's it

tacit sequoia
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There’s gonna be more than 4 nations, at least as big as no step back was in 2021

trim quartz
trim quartz
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Perhaps, by this knowledge they’ll update Germany, Austria, and some minor European nations, like Belgium, Czechoslovakia and Hungary

tacit sequoia
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Yeah

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Those 5 need more content than ever since Czechoslovakia and Hungary haven’t had updates since 2017, Germany since 2018 (and it’s getting a bit too old), Belgium and Austria who both need content, and Luxembourg that needs spice lol

trim quartz
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Exactly. I’m just really hoping Austria gets an update, I’ll be fine if Hungary doesn’t, because there’ll at least be a more modern and hopefully better and less rng path to forming Austria Hungary, of which I am constantly doing despite of how shit it is

tacit sequoia
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Maybe there will be a minor dlc for Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, and Albania if they don’t do them?

trim quartz
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They’ll probably complete Europe, then move onto the Middle East or south east Asia

tacit sequoia
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True, and patch up the old trees like France, Britain, and give something to Ireland

trim quartz
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Yup

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
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And I doubt they’re gonna leave nukes as the only thing being reworked, maybe motorized trucks and mechanized trucks making?

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Since Germany had production of Volkswagen in their nation, it might work for that part

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Sorta like RT56 has it where you research mechanized, motorized, and trains all in same category since they’re practically meant to give supply to the divisions

hexed mango
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BBA was a major DLC and it had one makor and 2 minors

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LR was a major dlc and had a major and 2 minors

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AAT was a major dlc and had 4 minors and an ultra minor

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The next dlc will have a major (germany), 2 minors (austria and belgium) and an ultra minor (luxembourg) akin to BBA

tacit sequoia
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Because I wouldn’t think they would only rework nukes, but add somekind of resource addition towards making them…. Uranium perhaps? And possible truck rework also, instead of it being the “army xp” production changes.

tacit sequoia
# hexed mango The next dlc will have a major (germany), 2 minors (austria and belgium) and an ...

You do forget Czechoslovakia, a major nation around that timeline, and that it has “Germanic Lands” which Germany wanted to annex as the Sudetenland… which Austria, Luxembourg, Belgium can also work, but also Hungary since it matches part of the Germanic sphere (even though it’s just Banat and Burgenland, it’s still German as a population within that timeframe)

And since we’re saying it’s a German rework, there maybe more than just Germanic Lands itself?

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But we’ll see as the time comes, plus another possible trailer too.

hexed mango
tacit sequoia
hexed mango
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Stop hoping for more than 4 nations haHaa

tacit sequoia
# hexed mango No

Well ya gotta either way, since we’re in the HOI4 server talking about a DLC that hasn’t been teased besides the castle part

calm bramble
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Japan + USA + Germany 😎

hexed mango
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Yeah we gonna get italy rework with germany

tacit sequoia
hexed mango
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The usa dlc can still be purchased right now

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Maybe japan next year

tacit sequoia
hexed mango
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My man, they just integrated the first 3 dlcs in the main game

tacit sequoia
hexed mango
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The only majors that are eligible for a rework are germany and japan

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And china if you consider china a major

tacit sequoia
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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China might get something separate from the Japanese, like waking the tiger was.

hexed mango
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Usa might get a rework in like 3 years from now together with maybe canada and the phillipines or something

tacit sequoia
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Philippines would be with the Pacific Rework, not with the USA… (despite being a puppet of it, would rather say it belongs with a Japanese DLC)

hexed mango
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Japan will get a rework with siam and manchukuo

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India will get a country pack with iran and afghanisran

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Another country pack for iraq, saudi arabia and a free egypt

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And there's that

tacit sequoia
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Well let’s see what paradox does, they might have more up their sleeves than intended

hexed mango
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Your positive approach on this is endearing haHaa

tacit sequoia
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Central Europe has more recognition than Italy did in WW2 due to its failures, that’s probably why BBA had 3 focus trees (including Aussa)

tardy lava
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Can i ask what nations are gonna get a rework without germany?

mental onyx
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Why did I find someone having a glass-is-half-empty ahh type energy on here?

unreal geyser
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lol

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when do you guys think they’ll release the new dlc

outer whale
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Like sultanate of aussa has %0 role at ww2

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But somehow they got focus tree

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Before belguim

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But netherlands also need rework

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If you want to go monarchist and If germany ai goes monarchist or democratic dutch monarchist tree dies

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About luxemburg ppl seem divided with it

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I think if devs creates a focus tree like

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For Benelux

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Like they did with nordic countries

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It'd be epic

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Benelux union

dapper fjord
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4 year prob good if we getting today year and next two year remining major nation rework "dlc" back to back.. that time when looking at France rework tree that bigger than two major allies (UK and USA) I'm thinking like "oww.. well, seems like UK and USA need to rework.." because they get new alt historical tree in one MTG dlc

a decade of games, such good achievements if you don't think too much about "when HoIV" thingi.. :V

outer whale
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Or compare any random south american nation with Spain

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I hope we would see a next dlc about europe and adding new mechanics

limber frigate
hexed mango
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3 minor nations (that shared a third of their focuses) and 2 extra small focuses for other 2 nations

limber frigate
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thats 5 nations

hexed mango
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that is basically 4 focus trees at best

limber frigate
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you didnt say "stop hoping for more than 4 nations with super good content"

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liar

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be ashamed

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of youself

hexed mango
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aight

mental onyx
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Watch the DLC contain more than 4 focus trees...

dense gale
frank zephyr
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smotrite

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new dls

tacit sequoia
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<@&846894118219022336>

obtuse stratus
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Any news on the dlc

trim quartz
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Nope

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Hoping news comes soon from paradox

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I’m hyped

outer whale
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Because many nations needs focus tree in there

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Austria
Belguim
Luxemburg
Czecslovkia needs rework
Germany really needs rework
Netherlands needs rework (monarchist path that doesn't broke when germany goes civil war path)

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This is what I can think of central europe

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Maybe Hungary too
They also need rework

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But can be happen later

mental onyx
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romania and yugoslavia need somewhat of a rework too. Why not finish off europe by giving albania and ireland a focus tree?

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The netherlands doesn't need a major rework but the tree can be better.

trim quartz
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All nations pre not step back just need a re work

outer whale
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Like Belguim def needs one

tacit sequoia
solid gyro
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Every nation needs a new focus tree

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They’re all broken in their own ways

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We dont play this game expecting it to be polished though 🤣

harsh hull
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Talk about what nation is getting what focus tree has gotten a bit stale honestly

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What map changes do you reckon the DLC will bring?

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Myself, I hope they finally break up the Sudetenland state into smaller states

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Give Czechoslovakia more build slots overall as well as finally get good looking borders when painting the map

sullen light
solid gyro
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new dlc is most likely going to be focus on germany

polar jasper
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Focus trees are always a side thing except for country packs

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Will Germany get content? Probably

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But it is more than likely Austria

solid gyro
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considering that hungary tried to declare pece but then the nazis invaded the nation

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
# solid gyro considering that hungary tried to declare pece but then the nazis invaded the na...

I don't know the exact dates of when these intros were used, so I wrote the dates of the historic events they're referencing.
The last one is kind of an odd one out, as it's not a continuation of the previous world news series, but I felt like including it since these simple animations alone give a pretty good idea of Hungary's involvement in W...

▶ Play video
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Here’s history of Hungary just by radio intros lol

solid gyro
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the first one shows how hungarians viewed the pre-trianon lands as hungarian

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the next four are triumphant and hopeful

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the one between march and october doesnt 1944 doesnt have the borders this is because at this time hungary was a battleground

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the last one is just dystopian as thats when hungary became the puppet government

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this is why a hungary rework is needed

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cuz of the vital impact hungary had

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and how germany puppeted them

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and invaded them

polar jasper
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But what was their impact

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Romania had oil

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Hungary was just pressured in

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And got a lot of land before they joined

solid gyro
polar jasper
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Czechs were doomed

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They were already given the land before they fully died

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Yugo, I guess

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But was yugo really going to last

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Even if you don't count the Hungarian border, there still was literally everything but Greece going to invade them

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And Yugoslavias defense was not great

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All their divisions got overrun basically

tacit sequoia
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Maybe

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Just maybe

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The next minor DLC will be Yugoslavia and Romania?

solid gyro
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they still dont have a tree

polar jasper
tacit sequoia
polar jasper
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Yugo was given a tree with death or dishonor

tacit sequoia
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It needs an update

polar jasper
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Then revamped in battle for thr bosporous

solid gyro
polar jasper
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Same with Romania

solid gyro
polar jasper
polar jasper
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New content should take priority

tacit sequoia
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Yeah you’re right

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Austria, Hungary Germany Czechoslovakia Belgium all need trees and reworks

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Possibly Hungary, but those 5 need it

polar jasper
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Austria and Belgium don't have trees

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They should get content as priority

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Germany has a decently strong tree if it does lack.

tacit sequoia
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Germany is the main nation also, and it needs more paths lol

polar jasper
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It can be improved like how yugo was improved in battle for the bosporous

solid gyro
solid gyro
polar jasper
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Still going to be a research dlc

tacit sequoia
polar jasper
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Most of your Germany rework mods are wheraboo paradises

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Idk those 2 but they probably are

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Either way, have to hop off

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
solid gyro
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hoi4 needs an ideology update

tacit sequoia
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Might be the upcoming dlc

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Possibly truck rework also (hoping for it since it’s getting old with the xp styled making)

tacit sequoia
solid gyro
tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
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Maybe with USA update they’ll do it, or Germany and Austria

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Since Austria had civil war in 1934

solid gyro
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after germany

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japan

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and middle east

tacit sequoia
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True

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They also gotta make Japan democratic too, it wasn’t much fascist as we think it was

jovial merlin
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I would prefer updating existing focustrees before adding new ones to belgium and austria. The entirety of TFV is integrated in the game but added nothing. Australia f.e. being locked out of a 3rd research slot till august 38 is just banana's. Raj with about 3 (210 days!!) railroad focuses without actually having trains or trains researched. The Workforce integration or Land Clearance focuses also feel somewhat dumb being able to do those after your corestates are in the direction of fully build anyway.

Canada's good focuses stuck behind walls of focuses that add nothing. Like 2x 3% common wealth research bonus or added 4 steel and 3 chromium... Or extra consumer good reductions already 2 years into the war when ur at max consumergoods reduced anyway.

SA not being able to go independent democratically.
And I can continue for another 10 minutes but you get the idea.

outer whale
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Like nordic nations has

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Like man Iceland has focus tree lol

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Even sultanate of aussa freaking has a focus tree

outer whale
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Because the commonwealth nations you mentioned is at the second plan

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For players generally

jovial merlin
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I dont know what is better but seeing those half baked focus trees after 9 years while like you said the sultanate of aussa has even a focus tree, is something I cant wrap my head around

outer whale
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Yeah man

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Instead giving them focus tree they could have give focus tree to albania

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But nah random african nation deserves it

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I think this dlc is about central europe

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Did you notice the letters at the teaser video

jovial merlin
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I havent looked tbh

outer whale
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OS = Osterreich
BR CH = Belguim Crash

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It might be a central europe dlc

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Hopefully

quick lagoon
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A middle Eastern DLC would be good

outer whale
quick lagoon
fresh cedar
outer whale
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South american nations had less war participation about ww2

fresh cedar
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The Pacific and North Africa have basically no content

outer whale
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Like there's still nations that doesn't have focus tree at europe like belguim which was a important country about ww2 and also ww1
German tree is outdated
Same as japan

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Yeah no one is saying they have content either

fresh cedar
outer whale
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If sultanate of aussa has it then belguim shall have it

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Paradox made the mistake when giving a focus to random african nations

fresh cedar
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IMO Turkey is just as irrelevant, even moreso than Brazil

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Yet has a tree

outer whale
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Because both factions tried to pull turkey at their side at turkey on ww2

fresh cedar
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Meh, atleast Ethiopia fought Italy

fresh cedar
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The fact Belgium, Siam, Malaysia and Indonesia don’t really have trees

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Seems weird to have Belgium get updated for the nuke DLC though

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And not USA/Japan and the pacific

outer whale
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I don't think it's a wunderwaffe dlc only

fresh cedar
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Eh I just hope it has a wide scope

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Like USSR/Germany/USA/Japan could really use love in terms of research with wunderwaffe

outer whale
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Yeah

fresh cedar
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But feel like it’ll just be Germany, Austria, Belgium and Luxembourg.

outer whale
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Imo belguim austria luxemburg czecslovkia and yugo getting rework could be a nice if it's a central europe dlc

outer whale
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Like nordics

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So you'd not waste a lot of effort for luxemburg

fresh cedar
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Just seems dumb to rework minors multiple times before majors

fresh cedar
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And Iceland

outer whale
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Yeah lmao

oak nest
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when is the next teaser about the upcoming dlc

obtuse stratus
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It's bothering me

chilly drum
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I swear if we are not getting anything this week im going to install EAW

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My sanity is leaking out

jovial merlin
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Is the Orde WIngate focus broken for British Raj?

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When I do the focus (when I have the requirements met) I never ever get him recalled

obtuse stratus
jovial merlin
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Yeah their focustree sucks

obtuse stratus
jovial merlin
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they all suck yeah

dusk saffron
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anyone know what todays 400 KB patch was? just a launcher update?

pseudo wing
dusk saffron
mental onyx
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the gif has been spammed a few times here so where is "day 2 no hoi4"?

chilly drum
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If someone find an OG or suitable replacement, I can make one

tacit sequoia
solid gyro
tacit sequoia
marsh chasm
tired acorn
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no dev diary

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its joever

mental onyx
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next week then...
hopefully...

fresh cedar
paper estuary
marsh chasm
marsh chasm
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😎

hexed mango
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They already got a ck3 dev diary

chilly drum
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Now we know where it's hiding

paper estuary
obtuse stratus
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I'm gonna go insane

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Please just acknowledge that the dlc is still coming soon

marsh chasm
stable tusk
obtuse ingot
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What are you guys hoping for in the next update?

stable tusk
solid gyro
chilly drum
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...there was nothing yesterday?

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Cant remember the last time I was so frustrated

hexed mango
quasi juniper
obtuse ingot
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I’m hoping some focus on the Middle East… it doesn’t have much attention to it usually

marsh chasm
obtuse ingot
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It might just have been a bit of a ww1 thing instead of ww2 thing, I guess

outer whale
hexed mango
hexed mango
outer whale
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Lol

hexed mango
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If czechoslovakia gets a rework as I hope it would probablyhave a focus fkr independent slovakia as well

outer whale
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Bro ofc If czecslovkia get rework there will be slovakia probs

hexed mango
#

So 4 focus trees

outer whale
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Uhh

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German

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Austria

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Count Czech and slovkia at the same place

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And belguim

hexed mango
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Nah

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Remember in la resistance

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The spanish focus tree was counted as 2

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Doubt they're gonnado 4 proper ones especially if they focus a lot on germany which I hope they will

outer whale
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Yeah but it was one single focus tree with different countries

hexed mango
outer whale
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I mean you had one single focus tree

hexed mango
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Yes

outer whale
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To choose which faction you will be at

hexed mango
#

So 3 countries got focus trees

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4 if you count spain 2 times

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Same will go for slovakia and czechoslovakia

outer whale
#

Well I think Paradox can just finish the central europe this time

hexed mango
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Yes

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Belgium is western :)

outer whale
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With belguim and luxemburg

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Well They will probs get

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There was a

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Writing

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At the teaser

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Bl cr

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Belguim crash

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Also south america dlc had many countries in it

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With decent focus design

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Not all south america but eh

hexed mango
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And 2 very small ones

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And the 3 of them had shared branches

outer whale
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Expect chile

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Napoleon path lol

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My guess is
Germany
Belguim
Austria
Luxemburg
Czecslovkia

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For luxemburg they can do the same thing they did with nordics when you form the nordic unity you get a focus tree

hexed mango
outer whale
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So when u form benelux as luxemburg u use that focus tree

hexed mango
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Germany, austria czecho(+slovakia) a bug dlc

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Belgium, ireland, luxembourg small country pack

outer whale
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Same with luxemburg

tacit sequoia
#

y'all forgot hungary :/

outer whale
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But thats the case If paradox isn't going to be wallet hunter

outer whale
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Because if you bring otto to the thorn

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And If hungary brings otto too

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GG ur game died

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I think hungary shall have more cores

tacit sequoia
#

nah it'll be funny man

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two ottos

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two nations

outer whale
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Lol

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I think hungary could have integration mechanic

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So we can core those lands

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And actually do something

tacit sequoia
#

True

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so does austria

hexed mango
outer whale
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Danubian federation??

hexed mango
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They almost made an union in 1920

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That would be rly nice to see implemented

outer whale
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Oh really?

hexed mango
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Yes

outer whale
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Yes

hexed mango
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Lemme find the wikipedia

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Article

outer whale
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Maybe austria can get danuabian federation or

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South german confederation

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Coring bavaria sudetland and switzerland maybe

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Or wait

hexed mango
outer whale
#

Shall austria core all of Germany

hexed mango
outer whale
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Big question

hexed mango
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To have austria get the catholic lands

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And core them

outer whale
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Shall they core Swiss?

hexed mango
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No idea sir

obtuse ingot
#

Oooo what if HoI4 did Monuments men

hexed mango
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Optional cores ig?

outer whale
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Core all of germany

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Wait wait wait

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When germany goes civil war

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I think a lot of NDSAP members would run to austria

outer whale
obtuse ingot
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Balkans/Near East Major update (focus trees)
Germany/Austria/Belgium minor update

outer whale
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💀

tacit sequoia
outer whale
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Like middle big

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Belguim too

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Became you are trying to stand against germany lol

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Same for austria

obtuse ingot
#

Austria…? They’re kinda the Balkans right?

tacit sequoia
#

central europe tbh

outer whale
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Central europe

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Well middle east is at the second plan

tacit sequoia
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they're in same category as Czechoslovakia, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, and Switzerland

outer whale
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Yes

tacit sequoia
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ngl if they do czechoslovakia

obtuse ingot
#

As long as Middle East gets some focus tree I’d be happy

tacit sequoia
#

they should add a zapadoslavia path

outer whale
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Yes

hexed mango
outer whale
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Yes

obtuse ingot
tacit sequoia
outer whale
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Yea

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I agree

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Austria could have too many content

marsh chasm
outer whale
#

Habsburgs
Facists
Danubian
South German confederation
Alpines

obtuse ingot
#

Intermarium (Polish: Międzymorze, Polish pronunciation: [mʲɛnd͡zɨˈmɔʐɛ]) was a post-World War I geopolitical plan conceived by Józef Piłsudski to unite former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth lands within a single polity. The plan went through several iterations, some of which anticipated the inclusion of neighbouring states. The proposed multinat...

tacit sequoia
#

this is what the zapadoslavia would be like (its fictional but it somehow makes sense..)

outer whale
#

Maybe slavic union?

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Nvm

tacit sequoia
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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West-Slavic Union possibly

outer whale
#

That's what zapadoslavia is about

obtuse ingot
#

What if Atlantropa?

tacit sequoia
obtuse ingot
#

TNO & TWR?

hard smelt
#

mods

tacit sequoia
#

they're both mods in HOI4 about the victory of axis powers and/or german victory in WW2 ._.

hard smelt
#

EAW is fun or OWB

obtuse ingot
#

Thinking:🤔 Hoi: Civil War would be interesting… like if the civil war turns hot and gets Europe involved

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(For mod)… I do think hoi5 could be Napoleonic wars… lots of fun there

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And would fit well to vic3

tacit sequoia
pseudo wing
hollow coral
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besides that alt history would need to be rlly interesting

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but it could become another trial of alleigiance

obtuse ingot
#

Definitely moreso WWI I guess with Sykes-Picot.

The French Mandate territories of Syria and Lebanon were initially controlled by Vichy France, aligned with the Axis powers.

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Imagine if the British turned Israel into a monarchy

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
outer whale
#

Katten doesn't answer when the focus tree is coming it seems

tacit sequoia
outer whale
#

Yeah

tacit sequoia
#

There maybe a dev diary soon™️

outer whale
#

Hope so

outer whale
#

German rework

tacit sequoia
outer whale
#

Epic

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Expect the

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Militaristic germany

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You just buy or ask for land

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@tacit sequoia have u played the

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Der traum des kaisers

tacit sequoia
#

no?

outer whale
#

One of the epic mod for german monarchist path

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It has custom puppet mechanic

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Like reichskommissariats but you establish monarchist puppets

tacit sequoia
#

Nice

tired acorn
#

alright

formal minnow
#

how do i counter facist influence

fresh cedar
outer whale
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Lol

fresh cedar
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Yet many still ask. 🤷‍♂️

outer whale
fresh cedar
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What do you mean?

outer whale
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I mean

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Did u post anything in there

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To learn something

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I mean for asking something

fresh cedar
#

Yeah haven’t gotten an answer yet

obtuse ingot
fresh cedar
obtuse ingot
fresh cedar
mental onyx
# tired acorn

Japan will eventually lose to China. They start getting pushed from the mainland in 1943 to 1944 in a historical setting. I suspect it is because Japan has lost all its convoys to the allies.

tired acorn
mental onyx
#

China can access the international market so they won't have much of a gun deficit compared to pre-AAT.

mental onyx
hexed mango
#

What does this even mean

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Within the timespan of a new months

fresh cedar
#

I’d look at September as the month when dev diaries begin again. Or very late August

granite pollen
#

For an expansion it seems weird that there will be at most 4 months of dev dairies when all the other ones have been at least 5

obtuse ingot
#

Katten likes WW1 as well

outer whale
obtuse ingot
outer whale
#

chaks writing!!!

pseudo wing
outer whale
#

ohh

outer whale
pseudo wing
#

if I had to choose one though, I'd have to give it to Old World Blues

pseudo wing
#

(i prefer playing supportive roles/countries)_

outer whale
#

zombies!!

outer whale
#

KR is about that

#

mostly

pseudo wing
#

we're going to have to ignore how bad I am at typing today

outer whale
#

thats ok

outer whale
#

You can do absurd divisions

#

And basically being the hero of your faction

outer whale
#

Tommykay likes to do that

pseudo wing
#

there's that, and I like to use my divisions as a breakthrough thing, going to a weakpoint in a frontline while the major nation is pushing it, and forcing the enemy to respond to me specifically and cause them issues

#

I may not be very good at HOI, but I find my enjoyment where I can

#

and being annoying is surely one of those ways ahah

fresh cedar
hexed mango
#

Dude I'm gonna die of hoi4 dev diary starvation

floral scaffold
#

Less stress of managing a frontline, less personal risk and less responsibility

outer whale
#

i agree

tacit sequoia
solid gyro
hexed mango
# tired acorn

So the expansion is kind of finished (for the most part)

#

When dev diary

hexed mango
#

Say the expansion drops eqrly December

#

If they start today

#

It would take 17 dev diaries until release

#

Say they have 3 nations
It would take 6 dev diaries to cover the historical and non historical paths for each

#

Maybe even 7 if a major nation (germany) gets 3 dev diaries like the ussr had

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That leaves 10 dev diaries

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Minimum 2 for new mecha ics

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1 or 2 for bag of tricks

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1 for art such as portraits and national focuses and spirits

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1 for achievements

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And uhhh

#

Idk

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1 for official announcement

#

Maybe they start next month...

#

NSB had 28 dev diaries

#

LR had 25

#

Man

#

We need dev diary TODAY

full ermine
outer whale
#

It had 4 nations and 1 minor nation focus tree

hexed mango
#

Even if they release the expansion on 26 December, starting with the dev diaries today, not skipping a week of dev diaries, this expansion would have 21 dev diaries before release

#

The only major expansion with few dev diaries is bba which only had 3 nations had 17 dev diaries before release

#

So idk

outer whale
#

Katten said he couldn't answer my question

#

Which was about
Most people including me believes that When you compare the new dlcs with major nations like Germany or Japan we think those nations needs rework
What do you guys think about that

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She said she can't answer it

tacit sequoia
hexed mango
hexed mango
outer whale
#

Uhh

#

Fixee

warped onyx
#

Why did you decide that the new DLC will be released around December 26th?

hexed mango
#

If they start dev diaries today and release the dlc by the beginning of December then this dlc will have the fewest dev diaries of any major dlc

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
#

plus it isn't going to be a small dlc if it has germany in it, due to central europe needing a rework

hexed mango
tacit sequoia
#

plus there can be 3 germany pages (focus tree showing), 3 czechoslovakia pages, 3 austria pages, 3 belgium pages, 3 hungary pages, 5 reworks to mechanics + prototypes, etc.

#

i doubt this is going to be a small dlc due to the importance of germany, though its not going to be big either

#

plus we got this month, september, october, november, december, there's time for HOI4 to make a DLC.... and not needing people freaking out over 'no dev diaries' every day/week either...

#

thats like 4 1/2 months

tacit sequoia
#

plus if ima be honest, they might have something that they didn't post yet

#

like something in drafts and planning, even during break

warped onyx
#

Although what worries me is that PDX has not yet announced or shown anything important. Time is running out. I don’t want to believe it, but maybe they can’t keep up with the DSL and will postpone it to next year?

tacit sequoia
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

warped onyx
#

This is crap guys, we've been sitting without information for too long.

tacit sequoia
#

gives them more time to work on it

tacit sequoia
#

i wouldn't mind waiting tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warped onyx
#

Tired of waiting. Such a large fan base needs releases

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
#

lets just hope something releases today

hexed mango
hexed mango
#

Those are not a lot

tacit sequoia
#

yeah it is?

tacit sequoia
warped onyx
#

I hope they release a rework of Hungary and Austria

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
outer whale
#

So maybe

tacit sequoia
outer whale
#

Damn it fits

#

Chak if u see us what's the reason katten can't tell about what's about the new dlc

#

Is it like a company policy

obtuse ingot
tacit sequoia
obtuse ingot
#

Austria, Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, Romania

  • Belgium/Luxemburg
red oar
#

what was the update rn

obtuse ingot
hexed mango
#

So no news today

#

Very sad

pliant cloud
#

yes wow still not even a hint of news since the teaser weeks ago

fresh cedar
#

I wouldn’t bet on updates till September or very late August. Generally how it goes every year

obtuse stratus
#

Bro I thought that announcement when it popped up was about the dlc

#

😭

calm bramble
#

I'm betting on either a germany + japan + usa rework or germany and axis minors rework

obtuse ingot
#

I’m kinda guessing Japan/Pacific Theater perhaps

fresh cedar
#

Heisenberg device in a German castle

obtuse ingot
#

Man in the high castle ?

polar jasper
#

I'm pretty sure update will be about Austria and research revamp at least

thorn forge
polar jasper
#

If Germany gets reworked, it more than likely will become a not beginner friendly country like what happened to Italy. There will be 10 billion things to manage which will make a new player die inside.

wanton tree
#

Honestly I wouldn't mind a balance of power mechanic for Germany

#

For newer players it would suck but paradox games should have harder majors. Imo, an Allied nation should be the go-to for new players to learn the basics before jumping to the historical losers of the war

hollow coral
#

between ss and werhmacht

#

which is pretty interesting

warped onyx
# hollow coral between ss and werhmacht

Yes, this should be an important aspect of a renewed Germany. The current version of the game has prerequisites for this. If you find many ss divisions, there will be an uprising.

hollow coral
hexed mango
#

When dev diary?

golden mist
#

If there was any day for dev diary in August I could see would be today (9th of Aug) When Nagasaki was bombed or the 15th when Hirohito announced the surrender of Japan.

tacit sequoia
tacit sequoia
#

Since they’re saying nuke reworks, it may happen today

polar jasper
chilly drum
#

Forget dev diaries

#

Like seriously, we've been told already to wait a month or two

outer whale
warped onyx
#

This is crap dude. This is already some kind of mockery! No information! This is disrespect for the audience! They could at least publish a small post with an announcement next diary

solid gyro
warped onyx
mental onyx
#

Where the war effort patch though?

opal hill
#

All of the hype is going to be gone by the time we get a single dev diary/announcement

little hedge
stable tusk
tacit sequoia
#

slowly expecting a bigger germanic dlc if we're waiting longer lol

#

not czechoslovakia or hungary due to timeframe, but it be cool as a suprise tbh

warped onyx
#

Guys, I have an interesting idea. I think, developers will release an announcement or diary after eSports events

swift mortar
obtuse ingot
swift mortar
#

OKW

#

Army

opaque drift
#

Guys why tf is the thing in news channel called “the South shall rise again”?

#

Oh wait it’s about africa phew

obtuse ingot
warped onyx
hexed mango
#

No

severe bramble
#

When will Paradox make hoi game set in modern times 21 century

solid gyro
#

when ww3 comes out :P

severe bramble
#

Wtf is this chat

#

Did devs forget to close it?

solid gyro
#

hello gordon

severe bramble
#

Oh dear

indigo kite
stable tusk
outer whale
#

I mean for Italy

#

You have to

#

To open other branches of focus tree

#

Escpially for switzerland you need to have 3rd eye for BOP

wet gazelle
#

hi guys

calm bramble
#

How long has it been since the last dev diary? almost 5 months?

jolly bluff
#

I mean hell, the Nazis had to start the war in September of ‘39 because of the economy being on its way to collapse.

#

Not to mention the severe fuel and manpower shortages that crippled Germany throughout several stages and then finally throughout the entirety of the end of the war.

jolly bluff
kindred beacon
#

The OKW leadership (supreme army command) were all loyal to Hitler

stable tusk
kindred beacon
#

WIlhelm Keitel and Alfred Jodl (who signed the surrender to the allies) were hanged after the war

kindred beacon
#

Btw, that decision chain needs some work - the Wehrmacht didn't like the SS but there were several SS divisions recruited from volunteeers in occupied territory IRL and the Wehrmacht didn't get mad at that

#

But then in game your general staff shoots Hitler because you recruit the SS-poopenfarten division in occupied estonia

#

Also, I would like to see options for SS recruitment in the Balkans that doesn't give divisions but instead reduces resistance because the local SS recruits there were only used for "bandit fighting" and not seen as suitable for frontline combat - a fair assumption since most were little more than thugs that wanted a steady salary and the chance to rob and murder Serbian civilians without punishment

#

What I DO think should happen is that the dissatisfaction should actually come from the SS - they start demanding priority for new weapons (small timed factory debuff), field command for Himmler, more authority in occupied territory. Wehrmacht didn't really start opposing hitler until the war was going sour

hexed mango
#

When dev diary

trim quartz
#

Please oh please paradox, I want a Belgium focus tree, I love my leopold

hollow coral
#

i went monarchist dutch and when i annexed them i got new generals so im wondering if they have unique generals

trim quartz
#

I don’t think they do

#

I think when you go monarchist Netherlands, you get new generals because you went monarchist

#

You get the prince I believe

full ermine
#

you dont get Netherlands generals if you form Benelux with 🇧🇪 or 🇱🇺

#

funnily enough , Fascist Benelux is called Leo Belgicus with 🇳🇱 Dutch flag

#

and democracy s called United Kingdom of Netherlands

#

every name for that formable sucks except Bene lux Socialist State which kinda makes sense

trim quartz
#

I’m going to Bene your Lux

outer whale
#

They have AI generatized generals

hollow coral
#

maybe its the portrait pack i use

trim quartz
#

Prince Philip and Lord Louis Mountbatten should be naval officers in game, and Viceroy Mountbatten for India

#

Mountbatten after Linlithgow, or however the order went

outer whale
#

Because it's fire

#

Lemme show

#

Verenigd Koninkrijk der Nederlanden

hollow coral
outer whale
#

Paradox began to write some countries name by their language

hollow coral
#

because of course they do

trim quartz
#

Dutch Rijk or something

outer whale
#

Dutch Reich

#

Lmao

#

Dutch Empire

hollow coral
outer whale
#

Well if germany gets more trade influence

#

They cave to germany

#

Their focus tree depends on UK and Germany

hollow coral
#

i think it might be the portait pack i use cuz i just loaded in as belgium and i got unique general lol

outer whale
#

If germany goes monarchist or democratic their focus tree dies

#

Because Monarchist germany can't have trade influence with netherlands

#

I assume paradox devs forgot to put it lol

#

When I checked the codes of it

#

It seemed like that

hollow coral
outer whale
#

Yes that's why they didn't put it

trim quartz
#

Same with most other nation portraits

hollow coral
#

any youtube videos?

outer whale
#

Paradox didn't even made a portrait for Karl eglseer

#

It's not that hard tho

trim quartz
hollow coral
#

alr

#

they rlly need more generic portraits

outer whale
#

Anyway guys,
When do u think the next trailer would be realsed

#

I am thinking September

hollow coral
trim quartz
#

Just go to hearts of iron, gfx, leaders, go to the country folders, HOL, BEL, etc, and replace the portraits with your own, they have to be DDS files though, and just copy the old files name and paste it onto your own

hollow coral
#

people are complaining a lot about it but i dont mind

full ermine
full ermine
#

i need more Portraits , focus tree and generic leaders

vanilla generics are trash

hollow coral
full ermine
#

one with beret, and the other being balding with glasses

hollow coral
full ermine
hollow coral
#

ik its not historical but when you puppets countries like uk while monarchist its just some hobo

outer whale
#

Yes

trim quartz
#

For non base game portraits, they’re either stored in dlc - gfx, leaders - country, or intergrated dlc, same path