latest-updates

[solid gyro]

Someone said something about it and I thought there were crazy, how do you get it?

[wispy basin]

just keep the first president

[past vale]

compliance is low! and i hear there are talks of reunification!

[wispy basin]

just do the focusses i did

in the screen shot

[solid gyro]

Bit messy

What was the first focus?

[wispy basin]

finnish neutrality

[solid gyro]

Alright thanks

[median parcel]

I dont see Ireland holding a part of the British Isles

(England, scotland and wales to remove confusion)

[amber shore]

I wonder why Soviet Union takes Petsamo when they win the first war/Winter War

[ivory hornet]

You need to be in a faction with non aligned Germany though I think

[frigid reef]

Bruhh

There is a bug

That new hoi4 states are not named

It says STATE_925

[visual willow]

playing in a translation?

[keen chasm]

Honesly i don't care much about focus trees

But the new mechanics, special forces and international market both look great

And .. they are dlc exclusive

[solid gyro]

Its probably based on what states they take

[versed cosmos]

who else thinks the baltics need more care? I mean the focus trees are alright but I think that their models are a bit neglected

[elder brook]

wdym with their models

[solid gyro]

When Japan and Germany will be reworked?Because i understand about Germany,but Japan has mid focus tree.Even baltics countries have better focuses

[tiny basalt]

[solid gyro]

[visual willow]

Either never or hopefully in the next 4 updates

Both technically got a dlc with wtt

[solid gyro]

Baltics got a rework recently

The german one is still pretty old

[solid gyro]

How can you not

They give you free buffs

[solid gyro]

Localisation problem

One message removed from a suspended account.

[polar jasper]

No

[polar ocean]

the production output of the military industrial organization can't work

For example

the number shows 53.37/day

but actually

the gun I get is less than this number

I think that is a really bad bug there

[polar jasper]

Huh?

Are you at war?

Exercising troops?

[polar ocean]

ofcourse not

lots player in my group has already test it

It doesn't work

@polar jasper

[polar jasper]

Huh, you can submit a bug report

[wary tartan]

sooooooooon

[polar ocean]

where?

[nimble torrent]

the hoi4 forums i think

[wary tartan]

screw the Per albin bus BS its impossible to do

[true moth]

don't you just need to conquer all the way to cape town?

doesn't seem impossible

hell might not even need conquer just military access

[solid gyro]

When it says "capitulate the soviet union" it has to capitulate to you correct?

Meaning you need a collab Gove or to take their major vps instead of riding on the tails of Germany or the allies?

[deep onyx]

Yes

[solid gyro]

Damn

[flat seal]

e

[wary tartan]

i did

[wary tartan]

yeah aka most warscore

[solid gyro]

Thats like nearly impossible

[wary tartan]

not if they suffer 4.8 mil to u

and u kill germany

also peak german AI performance

[solid gyro]

Order 66

[lean crescent]

i think im like the only guy who doesnt like order 66 lol

[polar jasper]

Order 66 kinda cheesey so I am with you

[solid gyro]

Yeah seems lame tbh might as well just annex thru console at that point

[lean crescent]

order 66 works in ironman

[visual willow]

then just.... don't play ironman?

[karmic zodiac]

North and South Texas.

[coral salmon]

What is it

Also what do spys do?

Apart from counter intelligence

Like they sabotage things? Hows that work

[hard smelt]

they can help u capitulating a country more ez and give tons of compliance

just make a network with 50% strength and pick collab goverment. (cannot do as democracy)

[coral salmon]

Alr

Can they give intel on governments?

Like futur moves or sum

[hard smelt]

yes

u can see all fleets, ships locations , planes , stockpile , current and done focusses

[coral salmon]

Can they sabotage?

I remember seing a button like that

[hard smelt]

yes

[supple pier]

Has anyone got a good strategy to approach industrial complexes? Is it worth while to make more of them, a separate complex for AA and one for arty for example

[fleet snow]

At the beginning of the game you gotta make variants once you get XP

Id say other than that it depends on the country but i personally have only focused on one MIO

[nocturne dagger]

@uncut crane

ей

@uncut crane прасти

@Морхороший

[hidden crow]

@proper sorrel

[echo oyster]

Did the new dlc change anything in vanilla

Cuz last 2 ones changed some stuff

[pure schooner]

Ayyy airwings now take 2 days to deploy

[deep onyx]

What was it befor?

[pure schooner]

A whole month

[deep onyx]

Crazy

[pure schooner]

ikr

[silent panther]

Wie kann man Soldaten dazu bringen, etwas zu sagen, wenn man sie anzieht?!

[vast gorge]

Hey, do you know why France’s focus "fusiliers marins" don’t give you access to marines special forces doctrines ?

[solid gyro]

You need to research Marines

Also idk about this, but I beleive you need to expand the specialisms

hi

[hoary robin]

Hi

[hollow shore]

Hi

[elder brook]

Hi

[solid gyro]

Will they ever fix the fact that having the upgraded marines gets rid if the models?

It goes back to base model if you get commandos

[solid gyro]

got a feelin germany, belgium, austria, luxembourgh, hungary, czechoslovakia goin to get focus trees in next dlc....

since they said scandinavia, then wunderwaffe for objective path

even though they didnt specify it back in 2022, its still an idea

[elder brook]

they all have focus trees except for belgium austria and luxembourg tho lmao

[solid gyro]

you know czechoslovakia, hungary, and germany need a rework lol

since death of dishonor, and waking of tiger

[elder brook]

you just said it like they don't already have them :p since u grouped in a few countries that don't have one rn

[solid gyro]

sorry bout that

[elder brook]

wdym sorry i was just nitpicking

[solid gyro]

ahh

got confused lol

[elder brook]

I don't think they would make a dlc where they rework focus trees that you need a dlc for, they would just rework them

and if you have the dlc you get the change

and making a dlc to give germany a better tree would be hella weird

maybe some alt history stuff could be locked behind a tree but not the rework tbh that would be scummy

but again we are talking about paradox

[weary crow]

True

[arctic token]

I'm still waiting for South America focus tree 😭

[winter crown]

Really?

Wow what version was that?

[pure schooner]

Stellar polaris

[ripe tendon]

Hi, do anyone know to produce BF 110 on latest dlc?

[fallow ore]

it neither will be south america in next update or middle east

[versed talon]

Where's the patch for Trotsky disappearing in Norway commie path?

[lapis forge]

Kurdistani focus tree

[weary crow]

Why

[arctic token]

It's like, one of the few places that still doesn't have a focus tree

Also south America had some importance in the war

[visual willow]

may they never come untill every other tree is reworked

[arctic token]

Yep

[hollow lion]

Serp

[fresh cedar]

I’m not sure if they addressed these two bugs but.

1. If playing as the Soviet Union, and Denmark was once someone’s puppet but is now free, it will request equipment from you even if it is at war with you. These requests occur about every 5-30 days. Such messages from Denmark have also had bugged messages with improper naming. (Many interactions between the Soviets and Denmark betraying their overlord in relation to Soviet involvement should be looked into)

2. If playing as the Soviet Union and occupying China, communist infiltration messages occur frequently even if Japan/Any China no longer exist.

[rich mirage]

Is this a bug? Soviet focuses give -2% consumer goods factor, rather than -2% consumer goods like they used to. This seems rather overwhelmingly weak

[polar jasper]

Huh, maybe the pass didn't go over them well.

Many countries had their thing adjusted

[rich mirage]

Yea. I’m just thinking whether to report it as a bug or not

it seems more like an oversight than a bug

[polar jasper]

That is what I'm thinking

[lunar folio]

Meh. As long as it somehow gets the developers knowing, it doesn't matter

[rich mirage]

I posted a post on the forum rather than a. Bug report

[nimble torrent]

The sinkiang bonuses too have not been changed properly
I hope the custodian team finds these errors

[wheat cargo]

why does norways focustree look so scuffed?

[molten bison]

It isn’t dont worry

[visual willow]

cause it overlapped with itself cause the tree hiding option is lightly bugged

[coral salmon]

What middle east 💀 there will never be on bro all military are toyota pick ups with mounted machine guns and old soviethelis

[elder brook]

middle east wasn't even that independent in ww2 so not even that

[coral salmon]

What was it

Brit colonies?

[coral salmon]

Middle east is a region not a single country so your telling me it was fully controlled by other bug nations?

[fresh birch]

There is a new dls in the subscription?

[smoky rampart]

My fleets keep doing this

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/17cuqb0/help_my_detached_fleets_keep_returning_to_their/

[hard smelt]

Can they make the white peace beter?

[solid gyro]

yes just make peace with nothing

please

[elder brook]

yea AAT is in the subscription

[hollow osprey]

hey guys

[median carbon]

hey

[forest goblet]

what should i change or add?

[astral scarab]

Add an artillery battalion or two

[forest goblet]

how tf im losing please help

[hard smelt]

maybe dont put all divisions on 1 general

[forest goblet]

what are best mods for hoi4?

[solid gyro]

Kaiserreich

Equestria at war

[mortal thunder]

i really dont like swedens alt history tree too many pointless 70 days that makes it impossible to guarantee norway or denmark before germany invades

also 30 xp just for adding artillery is so unbalanced make it increasing cost instead of 5 >10 >15>20

[hard smelt]

equestria at war

[ancient silo]

euqsterais at wra

[nimble torrent]

Road to 56, expert ai, the "better ai" series
Better designers combined
Some would.say TNO
Kaiserredux too
Then we have the mp mods like horst and whatnot

[mellow rapids]

Hum, you can garantee both before germany

[hard smelt]

swedens tree is not so good :/

[mellow rapids]

It's kinda decent

[hard smelt]

its to slow

[rough edge]

Nuh

[mortal thunder]

how do u leave out modifier icons and coloured buttons

[nimble torrent]

Those are more of utility tbh

But true, they are very good!

[elder brook]

I agree fully

also if you wanna go monarchist, hf because you will be getting 0.60pp per day every day

and you need a shit ton of pp to annex the nordics

it just doesn't make sense

[elder brook]

not really

you need to do the 70 day focus so germany doesn't attack your puppets

which is cringe

[mellow rapids]

So you can

[quiet smelt]

Just play democratic
It's good

[mortal thunder]

a fika is 2 hours not 70 days. the challenge lantmäteriet should be a side branch not a requirement even if its good. opposing the fascist should also be a side branch not a requirement. appealing to germany for a non agression should be 30 days not 70

[mellow rapids]

yeah but a 2 hours focus would be dumb

The focus to look for support , allowing you to get decision to get non aligned support by aristaucracy etc should not be required

[mortal thunder]

it should be a 15 or 30 day

a lot of mods have 7 days NF

[mortal thunder]

but thats in descisions where u click a button to get support and its 100 pp each with bad modifiers

[mellow rapids]

yep but the focus should not be needed

[mortal thunder]

i also think the finlands cause ones are wasted that should be a 50pp desicsion to join finland or send volutneeers just like france and spain works

or u could guarantee them for 25

so many nordic league ones that are 70 and are super weak is so dumb stepping stones.
NF have stopped being important changes and become obstacle memes

ITS also so unbalanced to make artillery cost 30xp now its such a powercreep but in the wrong direction.
older nations that just had a arty added are so op now

[weary crow]

why

[jovial merlin]

hi I have a question

even when soviet union doesnt have enough war score

they still automatically get sachsen, vorpommeren and brandenburg in the peace conference?

seems kinda unfair considering they are very high warscore costs in the peace conference

[weary crow]

No

[jovial merlin]

but wtf

I was playing as USA I forced because of my high warscore democracy in the german provinces soviets due to low warscore were unable to do anything besides puppet czech slovakia

and somehow they got 3 provinces I forced germany into democracy

[quiet smelt]

That's because you signed the treaty

Your own fault

[jovial merlin]

wut?

[dry ingot]

GODDAMNNNNNN

[simple dragon]

bro forgot supply

[solid gyro]

how do you make this? (found in hoi4 sub reddit)

[visual willow]

papal states under fascism i'd guess

[mortal thunder]

i feel like the game design is fighting itself. devs want smaller units but also doubles price of small units. support items use should scale to inf rn it just better to have a 40 width inf than lots of 10 width if u use engineers or first aid

[outer sentinel]

it makes sense like this though? you wouldnt just have like 1 engineer for a 2 width division, something like an engineer company would be doing the same thing regardless of how many infantry theyre supporting, same for recon, same for flamethrower tanks etc

[steel thicket]

someone tell me why I have 0 air superiority

[hollow lion]

most stuff isnt in range

[loud pine]

Wtf is that

[scarlet juniper]

0.3 fps?

[steel thicket]

yes

[polar jasper]

Fragment Italy in game rules before you start the game

[waxen valve]

Selling a 350 euro discount code for the grandest LAN in Poland

[polar jasper]

The generic leader can be the greatest thing you have ever seen or completely meh. Generic focus trees

No, just generic guy who may or may not give the most god tier of buffs

[molten bison]

uh oh

[weary crow]

Germany eu

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-crazy-gif-20067563

[mellow rapids]

No , because you will cover less area with 1 div than 3 , infantry is mean to hold the front, not destroy everything

And it's more about balance than pure game design here

[lapis forge]

what the hell is that

[vocal basin]

Show us the design for your planed

Planes

[acoustic gust]

just put them all in a single air field and divide them correctly bro, this spaghetti wouldnt work and make sure u assigned all of them missions and ask for help in #ask-for-help-here not here

[steel thicket]

thanks

[vital copper]

Please lmao
Windows+shift+S also works

[hard smelt]

yes

i use both

[spare epoch]

did they fix Uks MIO with the new update?

it used to give 50% extra attack instead of 5

[spare epoch]

• Fixed British MIO Fairchild Aircraft requiring the wrong focus.

i have no idea what they mean

where is that on the focus tree now? didnt even notice it before

[remote escarp]

[simple fjord]

new update: tons of expeditionary divisions

new update: divisions teleporting without capturing

[knotty perch]

no supply, no field marshall, all or your divisons under 1 general, no battle plan, probably no air either. That's why

[polar jasper]

Don't forget 36 divisions plus attacking a mountain that has 20 germans

With 18 widths

[knotty perch]

that's equivalent to having no supply...

[polar jasper]

Combat width exceeded heavily

[solid gyro]

Seems like

Kaiserreich Redux

[solid gyro]

select him and click on the province again

[polar jasper]

It is base game

Fragment Italy option

[inland edge]

You should see fascist malta name

[hoary robin]

What is it

[solid gyro]

Anyone understand what this means?

What's "The new Order"?

[solid gyro]

I think Sweden submitting to Germany and becoming the really big state with Finnish and Soviet land

But I could be wrong

Alright

[bold harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/tno-omsk-black-league-the-great-trial-gif-24456822

[simple escarp]

Hmmmm..Is it possible to work on the focus of Iranian trees in the next DLCs?

Or Middle East

[bold harbor]

icl i think its gonna be east asia

cos east asia as a theatre has been horribly neglected

[solid gyro]

Nvm i was wrong lol. It's the state created when you intially become a german puppet but then rebel and break free

Ah

[hollow lion]

[solid gyro]

I HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!

YEEEESSSSSSSSS

[solid gyro]

Lmao

What is that

[mortal thunder]

ive noticed so many bugs and errors regardning mio in all DLC thats just missing

the power creep just breaks all old dlc

[mortal thunder]

playing older dlcs point out so many glaring flaws how 10xp 70day focus is needed for military.
like greece or china needing to waste 100pp to improve relations for focus but also having a advisor for it costing 150pp which is just noob traps that doesnt work

some stuff is balanced to 1.0 some to some dlc some to powercreep so we have 10 different systems working in different directions now and being unbalanced to all degrees

[polar jasper]

I don't see anything wrong with the improve relations focuses, but some army focuses definitely could use improvement

[mortal thunder]

i dont think its thought out. running 4 improve relations at the same time cost 40pp + 0.4 per one so ur burning it. u have 70 days to complete focus. theres a advisor to cut cost 50% but its 150pp and its a wasted slot for that focus only and it takes 600 days to recover its value and u cant afford 200pp in 37

while new dlcs like baltics u have a 35 day focus giving 4 civs

or chekoslovakia where ur locked behind 70 day focus for 10 army xp where ucant even buy artillery for which it was used for 3 years ago.
then u have 1 70 day for faster airplane research which was redone so now it doesnt work as intended. because it was just 1 research instead of 8
compared to italys new where u get 4 75% bonuses

[polar jasper]

Something to sink political power into

Not the greatest, but it is to show how relations between countries have improved and you get stuff

[mortal thunder]

no it stupid and u dont get it

[spare epoch]

Finland's tree , and the rest of the trio ...is depressing.. because it makes you realise how boring majors have become compared to the ones that got a dlc since 2021

uk-japan-germany are forgotten through time

havent seen an update since 2018 GOD

[polar jasper]

UK is fine for the most part, Japan needs a lot of work, Germany could use more flavor

[spare epoch]

it really is not!!! Orange path has 12 focuses that are just war goals!!! it has no economy focuses whatsoever!! and the imperial federation is blocked by 10 focuses that do NOTHING

[polar jasper]

It is for the Larp

[polar jasper]

The develop focuses help your puppets

[spare epoch]

it is not interesting at all

[polar jasper]

Your economy is to be fair, blocked by shadow scheme

So how would you rework it

[spare epoch]

true but even so, after shadow scheme there are 3, 3!!! focuses for economy

3!!!!

AND nuclear requires you to be in faction with usa?????

[polar jasper]

To be fair, could use some more economy, have like 2 35 day focuses

Better than its 2016 version probably lol

[spare epoch]

but of course. Even so, it is a boring outdated focus tree...with every dlc installation the majors should have gotten a few tweaks to be on par with the new additions

but noooooooooo

[spare epoch]

oh for gods sake yeah lord

[polar jasper]

Here is what I want,

East Asia DLC that adds trees for Siam, Dutch East Indies, and Malaya with reworks for Raj, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand

Those are the main trees I am concerned with

[spare epoch]

you are not incorrect. But shouldnt the most popular nations be the priority??? HELL, most people start and stay with germany!!

[lunar folio]

Because Japan’s tree is, imo, worse than Germany

[spare epoch]

OH DEF

[polar jasper]

Germany mostly fine, could use some flavor

[spare epoch]

it is non-existent

only pre BBA ITALY rivaled that

[lunar folio]

Germany just has some issues with length, but the main part is still quite fun

[spare epoch]

we need simple nations , true, but still germany needs something of a character

[polar jasper]

Eh, you got to be careful

Too much character for Germany will get the game pulled off shelves

[spare epoch]

WELL

it shouldnt be TNO

but..something unique...

UK has the federation

[lunar folio]

Hrm. It might be very kind of Paradox to have the old tree and new tree available in the settings

[spare epoch]

very kind of paradox to rework the god damn majors a bit?

the main CORE of gameplay

[lunar folio]

This is all relative to Paradox

Not in general

Or really just whoever makes the decisions for HOI4

Stellaris gets way better treatment than this

[spare epoch]

i am extermely happy with the new dlc. But also frustrated because since 2021 they have shown us they CAN make nations unique and fun

and idk if i will be alive or still playing untill we get one major rework every two years

[lunar folio]

The problem ultimately lies in the glacial development time. If the 6 permanent devs thing was true (I was informed by Arheo or Corax that it wasn’t), then it might make sense. But otherwise, a year for this level of content seems excessive

[spare epoch]

Ah~ it is sad. Do you think they rely on modders too much?

"dont worry there are so many modded majors out there"

[lunar folio]

Maybe a little. Regardless, a lot of the decisions probably fall into a financial one. HOI4 DLC will make bank regardless of content and quality

[spare epoch]

well then..just make 2 dlcs annualy

make more money faster

i have to admit though that only the past 3 years has hoi4 such a strong fanbase and satisfying dlc

[plucky pike]

make a better Economy focus tree for Turkey🗣️🗣️🗣️

[tacit sequoia]

germany needs to be expanded a bit through politics due to it seeming a little bland that the only focuses like that are the diplomatic focuses

[marsh copper]

i can make a better focus tree

but

with milion errors and counting

[fresh cedar]

The Eternal Nordic Empire which is the late game Swedish formable via the Beta seems to require pretty strange territories to form. Why would Sweden need to take New Jersey, Ghana, French India and the French Carribean?

[tender thorn]

update death of dishonor

[fresh cedar]

Should Portugal’s fifth empire get a buff to its non-core manpower? Currently it would sit at 25% non-core which was OP in the past. But Italy can also get that now along with many other buffs. Maybe like another 5-10% would balance Portugal a bit since that’s the main thing it has going for it

[hollow idol]

ngl im happy af about scandanivia being finished

they needed trees for whiles

[prisma wing]

I'm not sure but i think this was colonial state of Sweden in the past

[marsh copper]

yes

[rich mirage]

Yea same with Japan

A lot of WTT and MTG era focuses are more fun and stay true to the spirit of the game more than the modern ‘250 Soviet focus with 20 de buffs and adhoc mechanic’ style

[visual willow]

i just wished they had more substantional options and choices

germany is just kinda.... the samey

[rich mirage]

I agree to a limited extent

[visual willow]

with democratic being the only real different path as kaiserreich is just a bit too similar to nazi

and then it's just "big faction"

[rich mirage]

something like Finland focus is a good balance

no weird stuff like paranoia

But good options

[visual willow]

the majors having a special mechanic is something i like

[rich mirage]

In principle I’d agree, but the paranoia mechanic is just… not good

It’s annoying gameplay and is also a misrepresentation of history

would prefer that historical purges happen at historical times, with maybe some choice to ‘redirect’ them

[visual willow]

fair

[elder brook]

nah if you think the paranoia system is bad that's just a skill issue tbh

it's good, and if you know how to handle it, you won't have a problem :D

i like it a lot, very spicy

you have to feed stalin all of the admirals in the soviet union

10/10

[rich mirage]

my problems are that it’s a misrepresentation of history and unfun

[rich mirage]

The definition of fun gameplay /s

Stalin didn’t purge random people he purged his political enemies and people who he saw as a threat to his power

The game distorts history (quite a frequent problem with it, tbh) but not even to make a better gameplay experience, it just makes it worse

[final arch]

its a standard paradox attempt to add flavour and squeeze £15 out of people

alt history is fine but they are adding features which dont really do anything meaningful to look like its some cool new DLC. The logistics improvements etc were good but USSR focus tree still broken

[mellow rapids]

well, everyone that staline considered as political enemie or potential traitor that was quite "random"

you cant create a perfect system

[nimble torrent]

in what way is the sov focus tree broken?

[solid gyro]

Yeah but his criteria for what was a "political enemy" was iffy at best

[fresh cedar]

Seems a little goofy to require those and not others. Would’ve rather seen a Kievan Rus formable instead of one that requires French India/Carribean, New Jersey and Ghana

Like if they’re gonna capitalize on Viking cores, why give New Jersey alone and not other areas like New England/Quebec?

[kindred beacon]

I think a lot of their new focus styles are trying to imitate popular mods, which is both good and bad

I don't mind some mechanics, but some more narrative type ones really are meant for mods where that's the bulk of content like Cold War or TNO

the AAT ones are pretty nice

[kindred beacon]

New Jersey was (briefly) a Swedish colony

so I think it's meant to represent that and not necessarily "Vinland" (the parts of Newfoundland and Nova Scotia that Vikings were aware of)

[solid gyro]

agreed

[jolly adder]

rework turkish focus tree

[hollow lion]

Turkey has an economy tree? lol

I dont think it does

[sterile marsh]

it dose but no one plays Turkey so it would not mater

[solid gyro]

New Beta is cursed

should def. be an acheivement about this cursed tag

[polar peak]

am i the only one that cant see the entire british focus tree??

[lunar folio]

That means they chose a specific route

Or you have no DLC

[polar peak]

well usually i would just go in and it would be there, now when i go inthat whole right side of the tree is gone

[lunar folio]

Is this in an ongoing game?

If this is happening in new games, Man the Guns is probably disabled for whatever reason

[polar peak]

na it happens when i just start fresh

[lunar folio]

Looks to me like MtG is disabled. Can you check the naval research menu?

[polar peak]

i dont got mtg but i remember not needing it to do the communist and facist paths?

[lunar folio]

You do

[polar peak]

oh what the hell

[lunar folio]

Did you ever have the DLC subscription?

[polar peak]

na

[lunar folio]

Well, maybe it was a mod or something. Who knows. Those parts of the focus tree are MtG locked regardless

[polar peak]

thats odd

well guess i gotta get mtg now

thanks for ur help

i was just kinda weirded out because i never owned mtg but i have this screenshot

then again i could have been using road to 56

[elder brook]

he very much did purge random people

as in most of them didn't do shit

[rich mirage]

he purged people he didnt like

ergo, in the game he'd purge the same ppl not by a random dice

[rich mirage]

it isnt random then

as in he didn't just roll a dice and purge someone, which is what happens in the game

[mellow rapids]

at some point it was kinda like this

it's the concept of paranoia

like the dude thinked some people needed to be killed when they didn't

[visual willow]

I don't think it's inconcievable to belief that stalin could have killed a few other people

[cedar cave]

can someone explain the new support companies

[robust seal]

guys, is the rework of supp comps available to all? i mean without latest dlc?

[distant vessel]

hello

[polar jasper]

Support companies changed base game too

[sleek river]

new karelian leaders???

[rich mirage]

oooh

[finite bay]

did they change anything about diplomatic pressure with AAT?

[marsh copper]

dunno

[polar jasper]

So it was bugged

[buoyant axle]

what did paradox mean by this

[buoyant axle]

It's an in-game setting and has been since NSB, some focus trees hide the rest of the tree once a mutually exclusive path has been chosen ((USA, Japan, USSR, Poland, UK, Italy) to name a few)
I believe the option to disable it is in game settings

[proper fjord]

there were changes with air modules weight ?

[verbal kindle]

was abt to ask the same thing

[buoyant axle]

I think it's something to do with Sweden's Fascist path, although I'm really not sure

[mortal thunder]

guys how do u feel about a victoria 3 change to hoi5 to instead having big models moving around u have actual small battlefields with several sprites

[visual willow]

Doesn't sound like it would fit the war focused gameplay from hoi4, unless it's purely cosmetical

[buoyant axle]

the large models I feel are largely functional, they can help you more easily identify division types at a quick glance, especially enemy divisions

[mortal thunder]

ur being toxic and problematic. we need to move away from war. this is actually a economics game focusing on managing CIVs and using pp to change economic laws.
i prefer a simulated frontline where i have no input.

[fresh cedar]

Why does the Swedish Empire get cores on Hannover and Mechklenberg but not Schleswig Holstein?

The Eternal Empire seems very bugged too. I can just keep selecting to form the Swedish Empire/Eternal empire (The buffs stack, currently sitting at 150% noncore manpower)

Seems out of place to not have cores on those

[dense sail]

JAN MAYEN IS FINALLY A RELEASABLEEEEEEE

yes

well it aint really a releasable

just added a tag for it is all

so i can just give jan mayen a core on jan mayen and release them

so beautiful.

i love it.

jan mayen has the hex code 255 255 255 so its pure white

odd

[dense sail]

okay what the hell

when jan mayen is released THEY HAVE 7K POPULATION AND 25 BUILDING SLOTS

thats the most building slots possible without mods

did paradox make jan mayen too op???
(please buff jan mayen even more jan mayen world conquest could be funny also please add something in norway focus tree to release jan mayen and play as jan mayen and also add an achievement for world conquest as jan mayen because new rarest achievement is needed)

TNO is also a country now

so real

new reichkommisarriat i think im yet to check it out

[polar jasper]

Wait, there is a tag?!

Do you have to Conquer Norway as wojtek poland?

[dense sail]

yep!

[dense sail]

yeah

but im just gonna make a mod that makes jan mayen independent

[mortal thunder]

swedish monarch families were from meckelburg not holstein

[mortal thunder]

id love a axis dlc next with nordic league functions but for all komissariats

that feeds into SS having a ss vs wermacht power struggle

[dense sail]

yess

i hate the balance of power thing tho

just a bit bland

[mortal thunder]

good concept bad function and UI

[dense sail]

yeah

could've made it a seperate tab just like intellegence agencies

[mortal thunder]

the spanish civil war where ai uses opposite NF against u would be better

id love a shadow ai gaming coop with me sometimes doing collabs sometime siezing power

[visual willow]

komissariats really don't need trees tbf, germany having a lil subsection which deals with them would be enough

[dense sail]

🫃

[mortal thunder]

bruh if aussa in ethiopa has a full tree kommisariats should too otherwise its lazu

[visual willow]

aussa only has a tree cause all ethiopian releasbles have trees

[dense sail]

fr

[mortal thunder]

aussa has no power and gets annexed 1 month in still more interesting than belgium

[visual willow]

but i don't think the kommisariats should be puppets at all, maybe just in the west

in the east it makes no sense as they where just occupation borders

[mortal thunder]

so all komisariats should to being run b a shadow ai

SS should be more like legitimate surrendered factions

[rich mirage]

maybe they could be a special occupation law

[visual willow]

yeah that would make more sense

[mortal thunder]

trees could be much shorter tho as komisariats were established in 42. focusing on focuses giving manpower, reducing resitance increasing collab, improving mill output

fascist meme brutal opression is bad and not historical

komisariats would be closer to liberated workers but much slower collab

Vichy france is actually the best representation rn

[visual willow]

in the west atleast

in the east the kommisariats where completely different

[mortal thunder]

idk enough about historic banderas and ukranie

[visual willow]

they where occupied by the nazis, go figure

[rich mirage]

no i think it would be like no compliance gain for the east, but u get a lot of resource

[mortal thunder]

well how it functioned as a state

[visual willow]

it did not

they where military occupations readying for extermination

[mortal thunder]

france had almost full autonomu as long as goods and manpower were sent to germans

[rich mirage]

that is just france tho

[mortal thunder]

there should be more events and descisions to puppet and coup hunger and romania more nordic league collab

[rich mirage]

norway was a military occupation and the ukrain + ostland were being killed en masse

[visual willow]

yeah in the west they where almost "peaceful"

[mortal thunder]

the 1.0 tech sharing focus in the corner is so bad compared to how uk allies tech sharing works from start with dlc

[visual willow]

denmark was even nearly considered a collaborator by the allies and even had elections during occupation

[mortal thunder]

almost all axis just liscensed from germans

[visual willow]

how credible they where isn't relevant but still

[mortal thunder]

i wish i could just interview stakui about stuff and be like ok pdx do that

italies focuses and memes are great now making german tree look bad

needs more wolkswagen focus and mio events

[rich mirage]

good

makes the wehraboos mad

[mortal thunder]

u get so few air research now u never build start bombers at all

[dense sail]

yes

jan mayen is hungary

jan mayen empire

[fresh cedar]

I feel like it’ll be an update for North Africa or The Pacific Theater. Both can use a lot of flavor and were vital to the war. That being said, those would probably be the next large dlc. The next smaller dlc could very be a reichkommisarriat rework with Belgium getting a new tree.

Lowkey that German puppet rework would be a great time to update Belgium, Vichy France and North African Countries

[mortal thunder]

i wish we got monthly rolling free updates than a large bundle some open beta polishes for germans pacific and such. leave large updates for entire engine overhauls

id want more interesting interactions with austria and chekoslovakia annexations. more 30d focuses to broaden out its effects

u can fit about 5 30d in same timespan as 2 70

[fresh cedar]

I wouldn’t necessarily call German puppets to be an engine overhaul, though I could see the Pacific/North African wars requiring that. For instance, German/Japanese puppets may require a more in-depth economy mechanic which would require major changes. Such changes which would benefit both theaters

Yeah if Austria and Czechoslovakia get reworked on Germany’s behalf I feel it would be part of a larger system

[mortal thunder]

is there some stats how well new dlc sold or how much people do sweden or finland

[visual willow]

Can't you see putchases on steam

[tacit sequoia]

Don’t forget making different stuff as Austria like the HRE and/or German Confederation between Allie’s like the “Historical Austria” mod, and hell even making a mini tree for Luxembourg to make them into a trade focus or an Iceland style tree instead of a nation, give Belgium some flavour too since they’re the speedbump of Europe and had a big history inside of Africa n shit

[glass oar]

When Germany get focus "Reichprotektorat" and open designs they can create Norwegian Reichprotektorat or it was removed (change to Kwisling risingin) in AAT?

[mortal thunder]

TBH luxemburg should have rosa to keep spreading communism and undermine germany. they should be a mini bank like switzerland giving -10% cg there should be more surrendered la restistance gameplay for uk

[mortal thunder]

i wish they doubled the max command power. added SS descisions using cp and xp to expand them giving more command power. then u use command power to trade with the reichprotectorates with 360 days rolling timers costing 30 or 50 cp to get more mills, boost mill building, getting more resource extraction or trade. getting manpower or special ss divisions akin to how italys militas work.
having special occupation bonuses you unlock like colonial police. but SS, giving secret police buffs, harsh quotas buff. civilian administration buffs for france or poland.

you could have finnish popularity struggle between military and ss where scale of power affects pp generation, xp generation. so full power to army gives 50% xp, 20% offense but -30% pp +50% garssion penetration and reverse vise versa
so sometimes u give power to recruit ss in some state some time u promote a new officer giving medals tips the scale

[rich mirage]

why do u guys want to buff the already overpowered germany

[hallow pivot]

How do u conquer Russia with Finland

[rich mirage]

go fascist it gives u all of the nordics for free

or

[solid gyro]

where belgium focus tree

[hallow pivot]

Or what

Monarchy aint good?

[rich mirage]

was gonna say monarch6

forgot to send mesage

[boreal cape]

Anyone know what the best plane build current for fighting AI?

[hollow lion]

You can stick to single engine on the first model since those are lighter

[hard smelt]

noooo max engine only

[vernal coral]

Ah yes, guns

[vocal basin]

I would put 1 engine instead of dubble cuz ic

Although heavy fighters are the meta

[hard smelt]

Heavy is more ic XD

[vocal basin]

Yes but better ic when it comes to trades

[hard smelt]

Doesnt matter vs ai :/

[vocal basin]

Well true

Against ai you can get away using some horrible designs

[narrow nymph]

i got the AAT expansion a few days ago and I was testing it
if I understand correctly, you cannot use "Economic Capacity Surplus" from weaposn sales or focuses to pay for stuff in the international market, right?

[polar jasper]

No, it goes directly to your construction tab

[narrow nymph]

if it worked as purchasing currency the modding options would be much cooler

[jovial merlin]

Why is the allies AI programmed to sit on low stability and mainly the subjects of UK, not to use/lend-lease their fighters to anyone who needs it (even their overlord)

for South africa and Raj I somewhat can understand the low stability

but I dont get it for Australia Canada and NZL

[hoary robin]

Bc they are under bri’ish rule

That’s y they have low stability

Smh 🤦‍♂️

[dusky bay]

It’s funny how this update changed terrain combat widths to be multiples of 10 again just to mix up the meta

[crimson violet]

Wait whay

I just learned that i should make my divisions 21 widths and the other goofy ones

And i was wrong anyway

[dusky bay]

21 is still fine

15 is the meta I guess

[crimson violet]

Like 6/1?

[dusky bay]

I use 10 width because org walls and front coverage are more important than raw soft attack in most cases

[dusky bay]

Yeah

[crimson violet]

I use 21 widths and 12 widths for garrisons

42 for tanks

[sand timber]

help

[graceful heart]

what is the best widths?

[prisma wing]

I play 15/30 with Finland lmao
But i play 21/42 with other country

[nimble torrent]

Go in the bottom right and click the human silhouette button
First row first button from the left
So you see what divs you are fighting

[silent raptor]

21

i use 20 tho

[jovial merlin]

im playing as the brits

but I have a question about refitting

I have naval refit yard and that one focus

yet to refit a ship with basically upgrades (BC) it costs me more to refit, even with both, rather than building a new one

[mellow rapids]

You should not update armor and engine

[solid gyro]

Correct it's to represent the fact that upgrading major systems is so complex on a pre-existing ship it's cheaper to just build a new one stick with small modules like AA or radar and they should only be down for a few weeks

[lunar folio]

Essentially, it’s easier to make a new thing than to try and make an old thing be new

The armour, guns, engines and such are all being 100% remade. This is already the majority of the cost of a ship. However, now you have to deal with removing the old parts as well, rather than just installing it

This is not just removing the old parts being replaced, but also removing living quarters and other such pieces so you can actually get access to the other parts

[solid gyro]

Hearts of Iron actually does a pretty good job of simulating the real life Naval dilemma of building up with the technology you have now or holding off for some new development for a more decisive advantage in the future

[sharp lava]

the Do 22's weight exceeds thrust after the latest update

[fervent prairie]

The jet Engines are worse than the tech 4 Engines. After the new update they are no longer worth their research time nor the cost of needing chromium to produce them.

They have worse thrust and range. But give more speed. That's not a worthy trade at all... What good is more speed if your range is no longer able to cover air regions enough to give critical amounts of mission efficiency. And what good is speed if you can't fit the upgrades you want/need on your planes.

Jet Engines either need to reverted to what they used to be, or they need to be severely buffed to be better than tech 4 engines to ever make them worth the effort.

[rich mirage]

Speed give buffs

[polar jasper]

Fuel tanks + self sealing is all the range I need

[proper fjord]

But fuel tanks remove air defense

For fighters that's not good

For cas if you have green air it's not a problem

[barren saddle]

pretty accurate to how early jet engines acted, tbh

[polar jasper]

But self sealing boosts your defense, more than the fuel tanks take away

[mellow rapids]

I think that USA and UK had hard time catching UP Me-262 in level air speed

[torn copper]

As I understand it fuel tanks are for planes specialized for offense in countries you lack reach in. Good if your germany or Italy. Bad if your defending.

[lyric crest]

Question: As Germany, whats th best way for dealing wtih the USSR

because every time I do, even if with 100% effort with swiftly taking down Britain and Frace and the other minors, ending the war in 40

with decant tank templates and a good number of them, I still get into a stalemate

[jaunty nymph]

CAS

and Transport planes

remember to always fully motorize ur supply

and create a collaboration government

[fervent prairie]

I know, but that still doesn't change the fact that jet Engines are now outright useless

But what good will that do when you can't carry enough to make your plane better and also have much less range that debuffs your mission efficiency. 65% more speed isn't worth being forced to downgrade the design, less mission efficiency and now also costing chromium. You basically pay more to downgrade your plane. The Jet engines are outright useless now

If that's what they wanted to do then fair enough. What a good way to debuff late game tech

[solid gyro]

You're also gonna have to start building your own supply hubs when you get passed Moscow if you don't do a collab gov't

[young plover]

Collaboration government is the easy route, otherwise the key is (and that's probably more realistic) that you need to break the Red Army before going further east than Moscow by encircling and destroying a lot of divisions. At some point they will lose the ability to man the frontline

[nimble torrent]

So uh
Any info on whether we are getting a Cas mio for the Soviets?
Did they forget about it or was it intended?

[mellow rapids]

I think there is one but for medium plane (iliouchine or smth)

[nimble torrent]

Yeah but even then
Cas is king
And the soviets produced so much of it it seems only fair that they get an MIO for it

[west helm]

itz cus you have probably no supplies

[nimble torrent]

ironically enough the game HAS a template preset for soviet cas
It's the il-2
On top of that it's got icons and 3d models for it
but the il2 is still left as a multirole tactical aircraft company
meaning that template does not get any bonuses from it cause it's a light airframe, not a medium

i guess it is true that the Ilyushin did do quite a lot of stuff
7 ground attack planes
9 bombers
6 transports
so eh, it's a big shame we don't get it but it's understandable

[nimble torrent]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/sturmoviks-or-aircraft-type-choice-being-forced-by-mio-properties.1602395/

Fyi it seems the devs are working on fixing some of these issues
So that's great, thanks

[coarse spruce]

-1rubber

[polar jasper]

Import or build refineries

[solid gyro]

is america fun?

thinking abt giving it a go ngl

[visual willow]

depends, how much do you like the buildup

[solid gyro]

is the buildup good?

[visual willow]

it's long

[solid gyro]

(back to europe it is then)

[visual willow]

you're also just never really in any danger

it's hard to loose a naval battle against AI, especially completely

[hard pebble]

The fact america starts with over a hundred civ factories

Craz

[dull tundra]

yeah

[chrome flame]

its still super unhistorical they had a much larger industry in reality

its just like that for balance

[hard pebble]

No I mean it's just crazy that they had that much

The only ones who could compare to them were the Germans at their peak

And when the USA was completely unmiliterized

[chrome flame]

yeah once the industrial might of the US was in the war it was already decisively lost

[polar jasper]

Civilian Factories represent economy

US has a ton of civs dedicated to toasters instead of construction or investment at the beginning of the game

They also start with like 6 mils

Or 8, I forgot

[hard pebble]

It's a pretty big oversimplification imo

adding more to manage is not a priority for hoi4 but

It does leave some questions

Civs in hoi4 sense just represent ones ability to construct different things

While also the ability to trade

Like money in a way

[acoustic gust]

also factor in consumer goods

[hard pebble]

Which simplifies it

Why do military factories require resources to make things but civilian factories dont

Do you not need anything to build roads or other factories?

I don't even think you need anti air to build anti air modules

[acoustic gust]

you do

[acoustic gust]

you do

i think

depends on what u mean by anti air

[hard pebble]

Well I guess you produce towed anti air technically

So what do you use to build anti air modules?

[hard pebble]

What?

[acoustic gust]

you need to make infrastructure

and other civilian or military factories

[hard pebble]

No like resource and material wise

What's supplying civ factories to build stuff?

Nothing as the game stands right now

Maby they could add something?

Not now of course but eventually or for hoi5 if that ever comes out

[acoustic gust]

like

stuff

i guess

[acoustic gust]

nah if they focus on economy its gonna get really dull really fast

the game is about war

just assume there is someone else who manages economy

that isnt you

[acoustic gust]

hoi5 is never coming out

[acoustic gust]

yuh

[acoustic gust]

like steel and stuff i dont really remember

[hard pebble]

Nah it actually makes sense

Why make people buy the same game?

Or a game where some countries don't have focuses

[hard pebble]

Mmm

Just the resource part

[elder brook]

what would hoi5 even be? it would need to be in another timeline surely

[visual willow]

hoi1-3 weren't in other timeperiods either, all where ww2

why would a hypothetical hoi5 suddenly be not ww2??

[drowsy plank]

... Civ factories are a literal representation of a countries normal economy and overall civilian industry. What more do you want exactly in a game where you already have almost too much to micro manage

As major powers in an mp game you Essentially already have too much to manage on speed 4 or higher

[patent bolt]

The only thing I could see is hoi5 having like a 1936 and like a Cold War stsrt

[torn copper]

I want to micromanage the civilian production of toilet paper and towels in preparation for the trench grind that will eat up the national supply of asswipes and field hospital cleaning supplies.

[nimble torrent]

To be honest in a hypotetical hoi5 I'd like to see a bigger focus on the economy and maybe the divisions themselves
But it's so far away so it's all up in the air

[nimble torrent]

For each civ on toilet paper you get +1 monthly pop and .5 stability

[elder brook]

yea true but Idk what they could do to spice the game up

and make it worth getting

I mean don't get me wrong I would buy it without hesitation but for the average gamer idk

[patent bolt]

Better ai, dynamic provinces, more content in general

[nimble torrent]

Do you lads think they'd ditch the focus system or keep it?

[patent bolt]

Idk

I like it

[nimble torrent]

Cause on one hand it streamlines the gameplay by a lot
On the other hand it does not work with puppets in the slightest

[nimble torrent]

So the longer the game goes on the more you notice it's faults

[patent bolt]

I swear if I ever see a 70 days focus tree which is not something that needs it

[nimble torrent]

Good old focuses
70 days
1 infra, 1 build slots, 1 civ
YAHHOOO

[patent bolt]

I’ve heard imperator Rome mission trees is pretty good

[patent bolt]

The worst one is turkey

Restoring the monarchy in 1939

Good luck doing anything without ending in a world war

[pseudo wing]

This is not funny nor something you say in the discord. If you continue with that kind of talk I will remove you from this space.

[elder brook]

wtf did bro say

[solid gyro]

The World Wonders

[elder brook]

I need to know what he said

[pseudo wing]

Not something that should be repeated here.

[elder brook]

dm 😼

[hard pebble]

Yeah I know it's just simplified to the bare minimum

Making it easier for us

[elder brook]

they need to make it more complicated for no reason

add eu4 monarch points and buildings

province development

on top of the infrastructure mechanic

[solid gyro]

@elder brook So what did the Guy do

[elder brook]

idk :(

[solid gyro]

@elder brook

[elder brook]

auuughhh

he said

[deleted]

[solid gyro]

😦

[hard pebble]

Don't mind me dude, I can manage naval so I'm just imagining something else that would be hard to manage to make up for it

[elder brook]

I'm with u bro

we need monarch points fr

[solid gyro]

cold war = no war

[fresh cedar]

Should Portugal/Spain get more Non-core manpower? Italy can get 30% non-core whereas Portugal at max can get 25%, even though that’s Portugals main thing.

[jovial merlin]

But portugal can get a ton of manpower from brazil, cores in africa and iberian union no?

[acoustic gust]

brr war

[pure valve]

Winter war was cold in Finland

[ionic sequoia]

how can i install 1.13.5

[hollow lion]

its the newest version, shouldnt need changes

[magic narwhal]

is it just me or is invading the UK so much harder now, like i've tried with both Germany and Italy, no problem before aat, but now its literally impossible for me lmao

it might just be a skill issue but im doing basically everything the same

[mortal slate]

It’s cause your a tyrant and their arming against you

[magic narwhal]

heck, i'll try it as democratic 🙂

[kindred beacon]

they're not being serious

Invading the UK is definitely harder I think though, they might have changed the AI strategy to not leave the Home Islands so undefended

I will say, time is key

After around 1941 invading the UK is damn-near impossible

defeat them before the US joins the allies is the key

Conquering America isn't "hard" -- they fold once you reach the mainland and start pushing, but it sucks

[weary crow]

1939

Start ww2 in 1938

[kindred beacon]

you can but there's no need

[weary crow]

There is

[kindred beacon]

If you really want to you can cheese things and win ww2 in 1936

[weary crow]

They are weak and beat them in 1939

[kindred beacon]

paradrop onto paris as germany in 1936

steal their navy

[weary crow]

You cant wage this war

[kindred beacon]

invade britain

[kindred beacon]

I've beaten britain as germany and have over 2000 hours in this game dude

sealion really isn't that hard it's just RNGey

[weary crow]

In 1936 you have noting

Just do good focus tree

[magic narwhal]

glad it’s not just me then

makes my rome runs a little trickier tho lol

[copper oar]

Prob skill issue since Im not having any diff and im bad at hoi4

[haughty latch]

skill ussie

%100

[rugged plank]

the ai builds better airforces since the update, and due to the combat width reductions offensive combat is now a bit slower in general

[small zinc]

One thing that kills me is that i have a navy so small that if invade anything but dover and Portsmouth my convoys will be utterly crushed in the seas,i have done 20 invasions in uk from hull and 15 of them failed

And also sometimes they stack 30 divisions on london in 1939

[jovial merlin]

But the english ai also used great part of their navy previously to do strike force and convoy escort in area's completely out of range for italy and germany

they dont do that now

[magic narwhal]

I figured it was just ai changing so its better at defending the home islands, still annoying but i suppose ai is better now :/

[plucky pike]

Make a better economy Focus tree for Turkey🗣️🗣️🗣️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

Pls

[elder brook]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-car-gif-19334563

[hoary girder]

This the funniest thing you’ve ever send. You will never be that funny ever again

[mellow rapids]

and "china and india pseudo core"

[hallow pivot]

Battle of Lepanto

[haughty latch]

Battle of Djerba

[elder brook]

?

is that supposed to offend me or something

i'm not turkish 💀

[hallow pivot]

Just wanted to make fun of turkey

[hallow pivot]

Lmao cant compare

[elder brook]

respect

all my homies hate turkey

[haughty latch]

fk yall

[amber barn]

I don't like kebabs

[hoary girder]

yeah, turkish history be like

[hollow lion]

basically Turkmenistani mercenaries as biggest political influence afaik

[crisp barn]

Whenever i see furry crp sht art i want to destroy it in by shoting a 380mm rocket into it

[somber thunder]

I got warned for Turkish propaganda let’s go

The mods are Greek confirmed

[civic salmon]

How

[crisp barn]

https://tenor.com/view/tummy-gif-26179629

This video is perfection

[civic salmon]

Damn I fr hate this guy 💀

Does nothing but showing turks dumb

Also this channel isn't latest updates discussion its simply hate commenting on turks

[crisp barn]

I wanted to label it as least turkish turk but I do respekt Turks this is Just funny for some people

[civic salmon]

I don't have any problems with people who are joking lol

Tbh most of the turks also hate this guy for some reason

[civic salmon]

But yeah just look at this one and you'll understand me

[hallow pivot]

Thx

[civic salmon]

Bruh

[coral flax]

NO DELETE THAT RN IM GONNA BOMB U

[coral flax]

TURKIYE MENTIONED WTF IS A STABLE GOVERNEMENT🦅🦅🦅🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[arctic grove]

You are not Turkish

[hard smelt]

eh its a fun picture 🙂

[civic salmon]

He is ig, just take a quick research on his accs 💀

At least he is likely to be

[rapid harness]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-man-compressed-money-flexing-nautilus-gif-17409096

[spiral hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kurdish-flag-kurdistan-flag-flags-kurds-kurd-gif-13572098

[rapid harness]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[hard smelt]

imagine losing alot of territory after losing ww1 :/

[solid gyro]

imagine oppresing people

[hard smelt]

XD

[solid gyro]

imagine having a backwards economy and population

imagine having an army from 1800

[hard smelt]

sureee its not like janesaries are from turkey though XD

[solid gyro]

imagine having a worse flag than poland

imagine fighting with syria which is in a civil war

imagine actually not being able to control your own strait

imagine threatning to missle strike greece

imagine having a disjointed goverment

[hard smelt]

what does this have 2 do with countrys XD

[scarlet field]

It's been a month without a Dev Diary, any ETA?

[vestal scaffold]

wat

wait

wrong channel

[hollow lion]

I think they said they wouldnt patch anymore this year

[elder brook]

they gotta patch sweden and make it as powerful as it should be (it should start with 150 mils realistically speaking)

[solid gyro]

Yall wilding over hoi4

[worn pivot]

Lmao, average balkaner

[pseudo dirge]

YES

[solid gyro]

AUUUUUUUU WTF IS ECONOMY 🐺 🐺 🐺 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷

[spark garden]

[pastel hollow]

Have you completed the focus called militarism

[hard smelt]

they dont have that

u raise conscription law

or pick a focus that adds it

or in doctrine

[mellow rapids]

you already have a big enough army

[leaden coyote]

To any hoi4 devs please make it so that you can queue reshearch or have the option to turn on auto reshearch things plaese

[brisk vine]

with focus tree too

[rugged radish]

https://i.imgur.com/s4YWgGb.jpeg

is this a good tank division?

and are amphibious tanks good for marines?

[fallen fiber]

Not sure why you would mix the three armor types in one division. It's a lot of research and army xp in the tank designer for very little gain and spreads out your production efficiency across three production lines. For a general purpose tank, use all medium. If you're fighting in low supply/difficult terrain go all light. If you opt for light, use mot/mech infantry to get more speed. Also, I would remove the engineer and put support AA and potentially support AT. Depending on doctrines, recon and logistics can also be useful. Consider adding Motorized or SP gun/AA/AT line battalions late game.

[rugged radish]

when are heavy tanks good?

[rugged radish]

and also you say to remove engineer and replace with AAbut I dont have any engineers

[rugged radish]

how is this for a marine division?

[jaunty fog]

greater ottoman empire

with a cursed map

[hoary girder]

FRANCE SINKIANG MENTIONNED🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[hollow quail]

wait i that hungary controling germany without mainland???

and bulgaria in poland 🤕

[flat lion]

tannu tuva arabia

[forest rampart]

french commune entirely in spain 😭

[molten bison]

golmud was removed

[foggy vigil]

cause it didn’t exist

until like the 50’s

[echo spire]

My friend actually wanted me to reform the ottoman empire even tho we are Greek💀

[molten bison]

i know

its just that i didnt realise until now lol

i searched up golmud before and realised it was made alot later

[primal matrix]

SussyOne, I’m going to need you to change your name.

[molten bison]

why

[primal matrix]

It reminds me of among us, a game that should have never been made

[jaunty fog]

💀

[jaunty fog]

random placement mod

:/

[rugged radish]

can someone give me a good layout for a defence and attack division?

(infantry)

[solid gyro]

greece is integral part of ottoman empire

you are a temporary breakaway state but soon we will reunite brother

🙏

[mellow rapids]

Oh shit this gonna explode

[solid gyro]

good ewnding

ending

[past vale]

are the rumours of an irish focus tree in the making true

[visual willow]

Don't think it's rumours as much as people just saying random things

[past vale]

i heard the next update was germany ireland and the one in the benelux

[nimble swallow]

what is the point of that

.-.

ireland had 1-2 divisions of paratroopers during the war and thats it

many irish men even offered the germans to join the axis because they hated the british so much

but they got subjugated by a "british invasion" you coould call it that lol

maybe we could ask for a little more realistical history of the middle east

with the Iran invasion / split between UK and USSR and UK also invading IRAQ because was selling oil to the germans after the fascist rebellion in iraq

[past vale]

Be cool like u could do stuff like w resistance guerilla warfare maybe something like Ethiopia if uk attacks ireland u could invade uk join Germany or help hold or retake france

[past vale]

Many more joined the brits

[nimble swallow]

is that fun i ask you?

having 10 mils in 43

lol

[past vale]

Er we never got subjugated we won the war of independence because the brits gave up

[nimble swallow]

ik they did a massive volounteer force b4 joining the war

[nimble swallow]

im talking in the 1930s

the brits made it so you guys could never have a meeting w the germans to discuss the possible entrance in the axis

[past vale]

We had 10000 men where u hearing us having paratroopers lol

[past vale]

I’ll agree with u there

[nimble swallow]

studied it during contemporary history lecture at uni

lol

[past vale]

We didn’t join the axis because de Valera made sure to ignore offers of help from we arrested downed German pilots and brought brits back to the north

[nimble swallow]

ik

[past vale]

Yeah no operation green thanks to u lads

[past vale]

U studied Irish history?

[nimble swallow]

we study all history of all ww2 involved countries

and well much more history

[past vale]

Dam

Even Ethiopia?

[nimble swallow]

i mean if i gotta be a politician in the future i want to know my stuff right

[nimble swallow]

yea

dont get me wrong we dont focus for weeks on mf ethiopia but we study its history

wheter its short or long

[past vale]

Well ya should! Ethiopia’s involvement was crucia to defeating the Italians!

[nimble swallow]

im italian

🔫

[past vale]

😳

[nimble swallow]

XD

they didnt really defeat us

[past vale]

They did! With spears and rocks!

[nimble swallow]

throwing sticks and stones and then fighting with guns from the brits americans chinese and whoever could have

[past vale]

Ya shoudl be ashmamed!

[nimble swallow]

we used mustard gas and won

easy won blud

*win

[past vale]

Because ya cheated!

Did the Ethiopians use gas?

[nimble swallow]

they didnt even know what hit them

they thought it was gods or some other plague like the egyptian plages

*plagues

LOL

(im not proud of that ofc )

[past vale]

I always play Italy in hoi and Ethiopia always win

[nimble swallow]

.-,

how

you can kill ethiopia with 30 10 withs

and you have the equipment for those at the start

you probs just battleplan with 0 supply

[past vale]

If I’m going for abandon Ethiopia that is

I just send the whole army

[nimble swallow]

mussolini is the strongest path

augustus mussolini 200x

[past vale]

Yeah he’s the funnest for me

I studied a lot of Italian history

Like with grace

[nimble swallow]

we love losing northern epyrus by the greek army

[past vale]

Now that’s a different story altogether idk if u bet them no contest

[nimble swallow]

then papa germany gets over and rolls over them

[past vale]

XD

[nimble swallow]

italy was worthless in ww2

quite literally so ass

[past vale]

Without the germs papagos would have pushed u out of Albania!

They were good soldiers they were just poorrly led

[nimble swallow]

they couldnt have

didnt have the numbers

but still posed a threat

[past vale]

They had u routed

[nimble swallow]

dont remember me that

[past vale]

U should watch kings and generals

[nimble swallow]

hurts inside

[past vale]

lol

Irelands military in ww2 was more advanced than italys

[nimble swallow]

ik

we were meant to be ready for 43 war

but mussolini hoped in a fast victory

[past vale]

If he kept a leash on himself like dev did

It would have gone better