latest-updates

[visual willow]

Or they give it alongside a germany rerework

[lunar folio]

Most likely

Like if Austria is ever to get one it only makes sense to be with a Germany reowkr

Alright work was so botched, not a single letter is in the right place

[visual willow]

A whole "look at germany" political branch which shifts depending on what path germany takes would be fun af

Also a request anschluss path that just the ai will take

[true scarab]

This annoying
Mods need to update again

[lunar folio]

I am highly confident your mods will work regardless, it's not that big of an update

[true scarab]

Still says that the mod is incompatible for this game version

And the mod worked in early bba

[visual willow]

does it say it doesnt work at all or that there might be some problems

cause if it's yellow just try it out anyways

[true scarab]

Oh I thought you just couldn't open the game with a mod if there was a warning sign

I've never even tried it

[lunar folio]

Only with red warning signs

Actually no

[true scarab]

A h

Ok

[visual willow]

sounds like the real problem

[lunar folio]

The game still runs with red warning sigbs

[true scarab]

Yeah lol

Well thanks for the help

[solid gyro]

Why can't I conditionally surrender to Germany?

Like why won't it let me

[lunar folio]

Conditional Surrender is so unlikely in this game it may as well not exist and should be ignored

[solid gyro]

Yeah idk why it's an option when you can't even use it

[lunar folio]

Yeah I just use a mod that adds it’s own separate conditional surrender

[solid gyro]

How do you do that?

[lunar folio]

It uses the decision system

[solid gyro]

I'm saying Is it a mod you have to download?

[lunar folio]

Yes, I think it was called something Peace Options

Though there are multiple mods that do the same thing

[solid gyro]

Idk why you can't do it with the regular game

It's like they want you to capitulate

[hollow lion]

Your army is too weak for them to consider conditional surrender+they stop doing it basically above a certain tension

[little vault]

thank you paradox 🙏

[solid gyro]

suiiii

[late mortar]

what game version is it

[hollow lion]

The most recent update

[late mortar]

yea what number is it

[sharp turret]

use google brah, its 1.12.7

[late mortar]

aight thanks

[nocturne sleet]

LOL

[solid gyro]

At least hes got a gun

[brisk zenith]

I just wish it also let you keep claims

[visual willow]

State transfer tool is your solution

[proven lodge]

no bullets though

[solid gyro]

fax

[brazen jacinth]

trying to send a bullet through a fax machine doesn't work

well
unless you shoot the fax machine
then the bullet will go through the fax machine you're shooting

[autumn vapor]

But franklin lost stalingrad

[pastel patrol]

A gun but no ammunition

[autumn vapor]

Do you support germans having sex with african colonis?

[pastel patrol]

What where did that come from

[autumn vapor]

East african colony tanzania

[pastel patrol]

Yeah but why did you frame it like that

[autumn vapor]

Bc germans banged their colonis

[pastel patrol]

Sure

[sharp turret]

bruh

[solid gyro]

Ironman and acheivements tho

[visual willow]

you can use mods with ironmanmode
if you're going for achievments you must simply deal with some lackluster options

[plush geyser]

had to add the flag myself, this mod is more went to go with another mod, its prefect

[uneven wolf]

Its perfect

[unreal kettle]

this picture would be great somewhere else but this is a hoi4 discord server

[autumn vapor]

Where?

[unreal kettle]

above this

off-topic

go 4 above food and there u go

food is above this one

[frigid kestrel]

Kanye lookin' powerful!

[plush geyser]

now I gotta make designs for the German puppets

[frigid kestrel]

can you make Trump or Obama the president of the USA?

[twilit wedge]

hello everyone

[grave hollow]

haahhahaha

😂

is it on steam yet?

[plush geyser]

no 💀

[grave hollow]

rip

[plush geyser]

idk if it will come out a buggy mess or not, cuz I have no clue how modding works

[grave hollow]

ah nvm then

[cyan bobcat]

Is it just me, or is CAS/Fighter Spam super effective after the latest update?

I mean even more so than previously

[ionic tiger]

fighter spam should be less effective, paradox tweaked with air battle calcs and made speed less impactful, same happened with agility

[silk garden]

doesnt speed make you able to fly more sorties?

[solid gyro]

I found proof

heh woman

[hollow lion]

I assume thats a bug

[lunar folio]

Yeah what is that? Wilhelmina?

[hollow lion]

I believe so

[autumn anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-knife-angry-kirby-gif-13854620

It's kirby

[unborn iron]

Imagine Wilhelmina leading the US army during ww2 under a fake name

[plush tide]

buff ussr

[solid gyro]

Update tannu tuvan tree first

[plush tide]

nah its minimistic for a reason bro 💯 💯

[solid gyro]

I forgot

[jaunty flare]

that looks pretty cool

[acoustic steeple]

Why does HOI4 doesnt show in the Paradox Launcher only when I open the HOI4 Shortcut from Steam?

[lunar folio]

The Paradox Launcher is kinda weird, games downloaded from Steam don't show up there because they are located in different places

[narrow arrow]

That's annoying

[solid gyro]

No

Its one step forward dlc

[thorn ruin]

tanna tuva my beloved

[odd rampart]

heh

[wide kiln]

I used to love paradox and their games... until I learned the truth about their past😔

[solid gyro]

no no no NO NO NO NO NO NO

THIS CANT BE TRUE

THATS IMPOSSIBLE

[knotty hollow]

latest tutorial shows juan pujol as german????

the man was spanish

do not disrespect the coolest spy ever

[solid gyro]

the newest dlc

[faint badger]

what is this operation capital beta?

is it just a neat way for them to name their updates?

[lunar folio]

Yes

Operations are what they are called

Minor spelling error, remake the whole damn update

[rough plank]

imagine not able to spell smh

even im able to spell

[granite flower]

@valid sedge are sichko veche e ok tuka sum si prashtai fr rec

[maiden hinge]

lmfao

Amazing

I love the motors they made

[pure valve]

What region of the world should be updated next ?

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hHblnOe0_Eytm3prYnS6F0Uw_Hzht7J8MecEraurL58/https/i.redd.it/rrmfcldwyu591.png

Excluding light blue and red

[hexed glacier]

Scandi

[rough plank]

winter war continuation war when

[hollow lion]

Austria

[solid gyro]

Vatican

[swift mortar]

Idk why Japan is red they need a rework, but I guess the tan and yellow, and yellow above the tan

[solid gyro]

im updating tannu tuva already so less work for that guy

[hexed glacier]

I think that Japan is red because their focus tree got changed in a DLC

[lusty snow]

Brazil, Nordic countries and the middle east

the ones who make a modicum of sense

mostly the nordic countries

brazil was part of ww2

and the middle east... well you can probably find something about them

[oblique warren]

nordic and south america

maybe middle east

[worthy warren]

middle east

[spice shoal]

Scandi or Iran region

[onyx talon]

I hope pdx fix the issue where in BBA the AI refuse to upgrade their plane modules even though they have researched better ones, like refusing to upgrade light 4x machine guns to heavy 4x machine guns

or even worse they keep using basic light air frame when they have improved small air frame researched

[sour socket]

So good news with the new Beta

Despite the fact paradox didn't list it; it seems that the General and Admiral Paranoia is fixed

Just did a playthrough of russia and it worked perfectly

[visual willow]

Yeah but brazil wouldnt really be able to do anything on the fronts of the war that other nation's cant do better

Like yay you are the only one that can reshape southern-america, that's still nothing

[lunar folio]

‘ThE mIdDlE eAsT yOu CaN pRoBaBlY fInD sOmEtHiNg AbOuT tHeM’
Most of them did more than Brazil or had more impact

Iran and Iraq did more by way of getting invaded

[visual willow]

Also, they are in actually interesting positions aswell

[wet marten]

The only reason that Brazil didn’t do as much as they could of was because their president restricted the troops activity. Brazil has a good manpower base and industry. They could have plenty done to them. The rest of South America I’m a bit unsure of, but Brazil is fine.

[visual willow]

Joining the allies and sending troops abroad isnt something you need a tree for

[hexed glacier]

That's literally the default tree

Although spain didn't even do step 1 and they have one of the biggest trees in the game

[visual willow]

Exactly

[visual willow]

Almost as if involvement in ww2 isnt a good thing to base off of who should get trees or not but rather their potentional within the ww2 timeframe

[hexed glacier]

Half of spains paths are bullshit tho

but that's like nearly all of the alt history paths

[visual willow]

Trees are a bit too "liney" from what i gathered

But the main focus is the civil war which, yeah ok

[hexed glacier]

The most fun is the carlists and anarchists imo

biggest challenge, big rewards, and you actually do something after the SCW

[wet marten]

They are on a whole continent without content. I think that’s good enough reason to make a dlc. They are ex colonies so they have at least ties to Spain and Portugal. Kingdom of Portugal and Brazil, but started by Brazil. Gran Colombia can finally have a focus tree.

[solid gyro]

ah yes, my favourite focus 'Host the german newcomers'

[visual willow]

they are on a whole continent without content because they can't properly interact with the other continents lmfao

the main fronts are all of europe, a lil bit of asia, and the apcific

[wet marten]

Mexico has one of the best focus trees in the game, and it is nowhere near any of those theaters. It’s not necessary to be on a continent that has a ww2 theater to have a good tree. Especially when most of the dlc is ahistorical anyway.

[visual willow]

mexico is at the very least right on the US's borders tbf, atleast a tad of an improvement

and i am not saying it would be a garbage-tier tree, but it would have pretty much no impact

[past tendon]

they should fix the soviet union bugs first lol

[wet marten]

Isolated countries with US guarantees seem like prime candidates for paradox’s late game focus trees. I think the Middle East doesn’t offer a lot besides the formables we already have, and focus trees for them.

[wet marten]

They should. Don’t they still have the paranoia bug?

[visual willow]

fixed in the beta from what i've heard

[past tendon]

yes and also the anti-soviet military thinking banned maluses can't be removed

[visual willow]

.

[wet marten]

That’s good. It was pretty debilitating for a White Russian play through.

[past tendon]

glorious day

[visual willow]

i would hope for reworks of older outdated content over a focus tree to a distant nation though

[past tendon]

such as?

i want them to revisit hungary

[wet marten]

Yeah, but that’s really unlikely. The most they’ll do is what they’ve been doing with Romania, Yugoslavia, and recently the Raj.

[hexed glacier]

Germany does need to be looked at again

Japan too

Like they're just way behind everyone else because PDX keeps adding cool new shit to nations that were updated recently and everyone else gets left behind

At the very minimum the propaganda campaigns that the Soviets get should be given to other countries, but in a reduce/less powerful state

[wet marten]

I mean it’s mostly just feature creep.

But yeah.

[hexed glacier]

It is

But Germany and Japan's focus tree could be so much more

[hexed sand]

Kinda wierd to think that now Italy has a larger focus tree than germany and Japan

[lusty snow]

im starting to think expanding/fixing current focus trees and decisions for existing dlcs is a good idea

like coring issues

or making byzantine not pure shit

[hexed sand]

True

[lusty snow]

Current focuses that need updating.

China: all of them

Germany: Alt history ones and historical need general fixes

Japan: Please expand the trees for alt history

All TFV focuses: Most of them get boring after one playthrough and the trees are rather short for the norm now.

[hexed glacier]

Ngl with Canada all they need to do is remove the choice between manpower and economy and the tree is fixed

Raj is also kinda ok atm with the new changes

Aus, SAF and Nzl are still dog shit

[true moth]

Vichy and free France focus trees suck balls imo

[spice shoal]

just do industry and tanks

easy solution

[swift mortar]

Japan needs a complete new tree and Germany needs a decent change to the political if possible

[solid gyro]

oh boy dont even mention italys old tree

[lunar folio]

Why would it need updating? It just got updated and it’s one of the better trees…

[solid gyro]

i didnt say that

[visual willow]

All dod, all tfv, and all wtt focuses basically

[lunar folio]

I feel like you definitely implied it, considering they were talking about trees that needed updates

[visual willow]

Also i wouldnt even count old italy as a tree that needed a "re"work, as it was never changed since release to begin with

[lusty snow]

the old italian tree was good

it just didn't have any alt paths

[hexed glacier]

It wasn't even good bad like the old soviet tree

which was busted

[lusty snow]

i enjoy it

[swift mortar]

I kinda liked its simplicity

[cerulean viper]

Same

[robust lark]

Watch tutorial

YouTube

By bitt3rsteel

[wooden fractal]

I recommend playing the base game tutorial and additionally watching the following video by Bitt3rSteel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Yt5_WPbhU

[wooden fractal]

refer to the message I sent to Noob1237482883 above

[cerulean viper]

Yep watched lots of tutorials, feel a lot more comfortable now

[wooden fractal]

Alright, make sure to enjoy your time playing HOI4!

[vestal dirge]

thats from 2021 though

[wooden fractal]

still works

not much changed

[cerulean viper]

Yeah like im learning the basics not anything really complicated

[vestal dirge]

true unless you brought BBA

[wooden fractal]

BBA didnt change that much to have a whole overhaul of a fairly recent tutorial

plane designer is the most major game change they added

medals, division commanders

you can find a video on that too

[solid gyro]

Listen watch 2 yt videos and just mess around with hoi4

just test shit

thats how i learned

[plain elm]

Hellu there

One of the easiest ways to tell the development team what you think about the latest DLC is to make a Steam Review about it ^^ (Positive or negative, we want to hear you thoughts on it!)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1880650/Expansion__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_By_Blood_Alone/

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Price

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[distant crypt]

smash

[plain elm]

Based

[distant crypt]

fr

[wooden fractal]

I have to say, I like the recent pivot to patch bugs in the game

[lofty vector]

the only real debuff vichy has is 25 consumer goods

which is easily removable

i never played free france

[plain elm]

If you have any suggestions for how to improve them, feel free to tell us here!
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[velvet shuttle]

but that would be productive

i just wanted to complain 😡 😡 😡

[solid gyro]

Fix yo damn game

[lunar folio]

"What issues do you want us to fix"
"Give fix please"

"What fixes though"
"Give fix"

[wooden fractal]

fix it

just fix

doesnt matter what

just fix

(/j)

[solid gyro]

Wonder if HOI4 will get a DLC for the Nordic countries as well 🤔

[lapis wyvern]

EU4 did

[solid gyro]

Yeah that’s why I said as well 😄 It’d be cool to see in HOI4…

[lapis wyvern]

oh wow

areed

[visual willow]

Likely next dlc

[wooden fractal]

most probably they will add nordic country focus trees in the next dlc

after all, paradox is swedish

[visual willow]

and its just the best region available rn that's not rereworks

[hexed glacier]

ffs give us the continuation war already pdx

[visual willow]

next best place is.... the middle east which has ehhhh a lot less potentional

[hexed glacier]

Ngl Egypt should be released as a puppet

you do a tree for Egypt, Iraq and Iran

which isn't great but at least these countries had something to do in WW2

[solid gyro]

I was surprised that they hadn’t given Sweden any cool stuff. Sweden is super OP in EU4

[hexed glacier]

Can't wait for PDX to overblow Sweden's military decent development during WW2 into something hilariously OP

[wooden fractal]

middle east wasn't quite as important as it is now in ww2

[wooden fractal]

dominion/satellite state

[hexed glacier]

yeah

[visual willow]

ingame still the next best region after nordics

[wooden fractal]

yes

very good alt history potential

especially for mp

[hexed glacier]

I can imagine them redoing the wonder weapon stuff

in a nordic dlc

Maybe take them out of the tech tree and into their own seperate tab like they did with encryption/decryption

[visual willow]

seems to be a bit too much for just nukes and stuff

[hexed glacier]

PDX has said for a while that they want to redo the wunderwaffe stuff

[visual willow]

well yeah but that doesnt mean that it will have more content then spies

[hexed glacier]

True

I would like to see more work done for the wonder weapons though

and a nordic DLC is probably the best one to do it in as it fits thematically

With the heavy water raid and how important it was to the german nuclear program

[hollow lion]

||R56||

[hexed glacier]

smh

[vestal sleet]

How do i downgrade?

[zenith dragon]

You just do

[solid gyro]

this pele rn💀

[solid gyro]

Rip

[raven jungle]

I had an idea for a new Land Doctrine that helps you with encirclements and makes you either survive encirclements or make the enemy have a hell of a time killing those units

[wet marten]

Kamikazes can’t do cas missions.

I mean you’d still go rr since it’s very overpowered.

[swift mortar]

50% org itself would end the game

Having 60 org tanks for only like 300 army xp is broken

Or anything else like infantry

And the idea of encirclement penalty is already in mass assault

[solid gyro]

I sont know for how long

But all the flags are being updated

And specifically the communist ones, look absolutely amaz8ng

[velvet shuttle]

could turn this into assymetrical warfare sort of idea

some buffs seem rather too good

would be interesting to see something that captures equipment, reduces enemy air effects, etc

[autumn anvil]

Maybe something that raises average reliability of equipment by like 5% or 10%?

[gritty apex]

.

[twilit stone]

Imagine the three man medium turret is more efficiency than heavy 3manturret

[hexed glacier]

The main reason why Heavy tanks aren't viable

Because you just use the medium turret which limits you to medium tank guns

And all you have is a fat medium that costs 75% more IC and isn't 75% more effective

And it's not like the heavy tank guns are that good either

The only semi decent ones are unlocked with the final AT tech and by the time you get it, barb has already started

I mean it is historically accurate that Medium > Heavy, Heavy tanks died out pretty much immediately after WW2 ended for a reason

Which is that they're slow and unreliable

Which aren't the reasons why they aren't good in HOI because reliability doesn't matter

Reliability should affect org loss whilst moving

to simulate break downs that don't render the tank completely useless

[robust epoch]

What do you guys think the next update is gonna be about?

[visual willow]

Nordics dlc

Unless it's war effort patch then uhhhh good question

[robust epoch]

Hmm Nordics would be great. I would love to see the rest of Europe getting trees like the Nordics, Ireland, and perhaps even austria

Also when is paradox just gonna add a Quebec core oml

[visual willow]

i dont see ireland really having much potentional but maybe a lil ireland tree with great britain redo

[autumn anvil]

Yes

And a focus to move austrohungarian capital to vienna maybe

Or have austria be able to form it too

[wet marten]

I think whoever makes it should keep their main capital. I don’t know why after remaking the empire they would just give the Austrians the capital.

Plus Budapest is a more central capital when the entire empire is formed.

[visual willow]

irl it literally was a dual country with 2 capitals

[lunar folio]

Austria-Hungary was, yeah

Notice how there is a Hungary in the Austria-Hungary

Though if Austria did it I would probs want an Austrian Empire

Instead of the compromised Austria-Hungary

[hexed glacier]

Austria can form it via decision, so can Czechs

The issue is that there is no reason to play Austria atm

[solid gyro]

U can also form it as croatia

[visual willow]

i mean, they did. it's just that the hungarians did not want that and after their relations with the russians dissolved, noone wanted to hlep them with the hungarian revolts so they had to compromise, otherwise the hungarians would be lost

[silk garden]

and hungary wouldnt want austria-hungary

[visual willow]

and if the hungarians fully broke away.... well, lets say there are a lot of other groups that would likely break away or powers around them that would gangbang them to end them

[hollow lion]

@lusty rampart hes at it again

[fossil lantern]

i really need battalion designer

and each tile will have a ton of subtiles which will be occupied by battalions

platoons are gimmicks to add 4 squads or 1 squads

[lunar folio]

That sounds less like a battalion designer and more like a total overhaul of the entire combat system

[fossil lantern]

sorta

each company will have their own armour and support weapons which makes them more self reliant and versatile

no Artillery battalions , AA and AT battalions they are distrubuted on company level

[vernal coral]

At this point in the game, i highly doubt that would happen

A mod would be your best bet

[fossil lantern]

yeah... im making my own mod rn

but struggling with the UI

[vernal coral]

Nice

[lunar folio]

A mod? You can't just add entire features like that in

[fossil lantern]

it's not like everything is impossible

but will take a lot of time

[lunar folio]

Not everything is impossible but some things are impossible

But you know what, I'm optimistic. I want you to prove me wrong here

[fossil lantern]

true..., but yeah i just really like in depth combat system for some reason

[vernal coral]

It would certainly be interesting

However it would make micromanaging combat a much larger pain in my opinion, keeping track of all the divisions is hard enough

[fossil lantern]

at best i'll have to remake the entire hoi4 map just to accomidate the battalions that is

[lunar folio]

Well yes, cause subtiles would be literally impossible, like I'm not sugarcoat that one subtiles are just impossible

But you can make smaller tiles

[vernal coral]

If the mod goes anywhere ill be interested to see how it looks

Like i said, it sounds interesting

[fossil lantern]

i mean i kinda hate the fact that SMG are not good in urban settings

[lunar folio]

It would at the very least be an incredible technical feat if implemented fully

[vernal coral]

Yeah

[cosmic falcon]

Wonder how will a Belgium, Luxemburg and Austria DLC would work.

[tranquil token]

Austrias would probably be something like HRE

[lunar folio]

Austria would get an Austria-Hungary/Austrian Empire tree

And then HRE shenanigans

[tranquil token]

Belgium tho

What would they get

Even worse

What would Lux get

[lunar folio]

Luxembourg would be about as good as Aussa

[tranquil token]

Aussa has a unique tree I forgot

[lunar folio]

They do

Sort of

Technically every Ethiopian releasable has it

[tranquil token]

It's an Ethiopian tree

[lunar folio]

Belgium would basically just be worse Netherlands

[tranquil token]

So it's quasi unique

[tranquil token]

Belgium just sucks

[lunar folio]

Like yeah, what can Belgium do that Netherlands hasn't done

[tranquil token]

Ig they could spread of Africa

Belgium just won't get a DLC

But what I want rn is a new focus tree

I want a basic tree revamp

Like a spy agency update

Or a territorial thing

That's what I want rn

[dire meteor]

So much hate for Belgium I wonder why. In any case the country was an actual actor in ww2 and shoukd really get a focus tree. For me every country should have one

[lunar folio]

Not saying they shouldn't get one but I just think they're kind of low priority. Cause I really do just think Belgium would be a worse Netherlands

Like what could Belgium do that is highly distinct to the Netherlands

[spring shard]

r56 broken/

?

[lunar folio]

What does that have to be with the latest updates to HOI4

[spring shard]

wrong channel

[dire meteor]

Maybe something like not being Netherland ? Your error is to just assimilate them to each others but both countries have a high history and plenty of possibilities. Things like why in the hell is there no path with non aligned ? We're one of the few countries who still have a monarchy why not exploiting that ?
Also the dude that founded the Rexist parti actually wanted to form a "Belgian reich" it sound stupid of course but hell would be fun to do it in HOI the only very boring path would obviously be democratix since it mean 100% defeat in the main land but make a thing for a "cobtinue the fight from Congo" could be interesting

[lunar folio]

Continue to fight from the Congo
Exactly what the Dutch did, they fought from Indonesia.
Again it's not that Belgium shouldn't get a tree, it just isn't a very high priority to people who aren't Belgian since so much of what it can do is simply what the Dutch can do

[dire meteor]

Yeah sure giving Aussa a tree was a priority then but not Belgium
Giving Switzerland a tree was a priority despite thel just sitting in a corner and not participating but not give Belgium one
Dunno doesn't seem very logic way to put priorities

[lunar folio]

Nobody wanted Aussa to get a tree
As for Switzerland, it's because they have geographic connection to Italy

[cobalt hearth]

So does Aussa

[wet marten]

I think switzerland was for the meme. And honestly they didn't do half bad with the tree.

[lunar folio]

And yeah, I have to say, Switzerland is a much more unique choice

Maybe not better

But more unique

And Aussa is kinda funny to play

Aussa was also very much a meme tree considering it isn't even listed and it wasn't announced

[wet marten]

Couldn't belgium have a burgundy tree, or is that a stretch?

[dire meteor]

Belgium could be unique or funny if they actually worked on it then ^_^

[dire meteor]

Reforming Lotharingia per example ?

[lunar folio]

Er, possibly

I mean yeah, that is something

[wet marten]

I think they have enough unique content to do a focus tree.

[lunar folio]

I mean again, I don't think it's a bad idea, I just think there are more interesting countries that have more varied content compared to what exists

[wet marten]

Not like that has stopped paradox in the past. They make unique focus trees for most dlc anyway.

[lunar folio]

And I could be totally wrong, I mean who expected Bulgaria to have one of the best focus trees in the game?

[wet marten]

I think people were too focused on the turkish tree.

[lunar folio]

Turkey was uh, ooh boy that was a godawful tree

Simultaneously too big and too small at the same time

[dire meteor]

I know that at some point the UK set interest into the benelux and gain a casus beli against Belgium to puppet them

[cobalt hearth]

The Aussie focus tree needs a redo

Most early focus trees need a redo

[lunar folio]

I thought you said Aussa and was really confused

[cobalt hearth]

Damn, ig I live somewhere in Ethiopia

[lunar folio]

Yeah DoD and TfV tree overhauls are some of the most requested things these days

[dire meteor]

Aussie ?

[lunar folio]

Australia

[cobalt hearth]

Slang for Australia

[dire meteor]

Oooh okay

Not looked at them yeat I just tried the Dutch east indies over there cause they have a greater indonesian decision they can take

[lunar folio]

Personally I think India is the only really interesting country in TfV, although if they redo India they'd probs redo all the others

Or maybe they'd give trees to South-east Asia and toss in a India focus tree, although most of SEA can't do much

[dire meteor]

Austria don't have a tree either 0_0 I just noticed

[cobalt hearth]

Yup

[dire meteor]

I was sure they had one cause I have seen a video about a revert anschluss

[lunar folio]

Paradox: "We can't give Austria tree, they die every game!"
Ethiopia tree:

[dire meteor]

Austria = Habsbourg non aligned tree XD

[lunar folio]

Austria does have a decent amount of choices, since they can go either Austrian Empire, Austria-Hungary, or HRE and there's a ton of Habsburg guff they can stick in

Not sure what they'd do in other trees though

Fascist would probs be like Czechoslovakia where it's just, "Hey Germany please eat me"
"Okay"

[dire meteor]

Anyway back about Belgium any tree that would give me the right to destroy both France and the Netherland would be higly appreciated

[lunar folio]

Germany

Technically correct, it's a tree that allows you to destroy France and the Netherlands

[dire meteor]

I love Germany but I still want to play my country xD I'm one if the weirdos that only see the great powers as targets npc and nevzr play them x)

[visual willow]

I mean, a belgoum tree would only be a little bit different from the dutch tree, so why not add it and put it in mtg? It's barely any work

[lunar folio]

Yeah that would have been a good idea like, when MtG was releasing

If Belgium got one in MtG I would have no complaints, but sticking Belgium in some random DLC? Not as much

[visual willow]

I just hope they'll rework older elc and if they touch up the netherlands they just add a belgium one alongside it

But a "leftovers of europe" pack would just be bleh

[lunar folio]

Yeah I think that's fine, I would have no qualms if they got one with a rework of Netherlands

[visual willow]

Makes not a lot of sense to give austria a new tree while having hungary/germany stay shit

Austria tree should come with one, if not both, of those

[unborn iron]

Im just waiting for a DLC About Benelux and its colonies, So Indonesia, Suriname, Congo, Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands

[solid gyro]

Will there ever be a translation of the game into Italian?

[visual willow]

maybe

dont think anyone knows 🤷‍♀️

[wet marten]

Best bet is to find a mod.

[long cedar]

1936, hist, all dls, Multiplayer 1
ID: 90168001164023821

[solid gyro]

they are all made with translate

the italian version at least

[lunar folio]

Suriname will quite literally never get a focus tree

Unless that is part of a shared focus tree

[pulsar topaz]

Suriname represent

Suriname side 🙅

[solid gyro]

Germany needs a somewhat nerf/buff in their tree

Even add balance of power between Speer, Goering, Himmler, or the Wehrmacht

Or a Bundestag option like USA has senate

Plus some Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, and Reichsmarine debuffs like Italy and USSR have

Actually all nations should have that ^^

Even if they’re minors, they need smth to build from the ground of low buffs to highest buffs

Also add a spartacists tree for Germany unless they’re fully purged from the Reich

[solid gyro]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism

Or strasserist tree to do a “German Civil War” to defeat Germany as Otto Strasser, and do the “Second German Revolution” for the monarchy, or do “The Second Spartacist Uprising” for communist Germany, and they can go down different paths of it similar to USSR

And even add the conspiracy for Germany when adolf gets assassinated, or make it like the Valkyrie movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Valkyrie

So much stuff to add for Germany

Even more puppet states

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_puppet_states

Germany definitely needs a major rework like USSR & Italy had, plus it’s major power in WW2, though I wonder if there’s gonna be more inner German politics being spiced up inside of it

Maybe add similar army debuffs to France Britain USA and Japan like Italy and USSR have it, and make Germany have a decision to save resources for wunderwaffen or not

Maybe let Einstein take over Germany as a troll focus tree

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[visual willow]

Aslong as they work more like italian east africa and not the current reichskommisariats

[solid gyro]

Yeah that would be cool tbh

Or add some like detusche mittelafrika or sudafrikan

[visual willow]

I dont think random ass places need reichskommisariats just because it's land you can get

Unless they go that german puppets all auto have "reichskommisariat" infront of it with the german localisation name after

[hexed glacier]

I've always though that they could probably extend the concept of the MEFO bills and have Germany's war time economy run off of capitulating states

If you don't cap X amount of states a year when you declare you economy goes to shit

So basically 1942/43 Germany's economy would be ass

You could probably also add stuff for the """"Volunteer"""" workers that Germany brought in to mitigate the disaster

Nazi Germany's economy was an incoherent kleptocratic mess that threw in as many ideas from all across the political spectrum to suit the Nazi higher ups needs

And not the Efficient Germany Economy that people stereotype Nazi Germany as

Because that was a post war thing West Germany developed

For a while "Made In Germany" = low quality shit

You could even have a permanent national spirit that has buff and debuffs that change throughout the game depending on what ideology you go and what actions you take

[visual willow]

Think that would be better as just a general screen like paranoia

[hexed glacier]

yeah

[solid gyro]

They could add a political paranoia for hitler, just like USSR has

[visual willow]

I'd rather keep most of those mechanics exclusive and not just throw them everywhere

[spice oyster]

Germany can have missions like Italy have, that Hitler would give you some absurd missions to capture some territory and if you don't capture it, he would sort of plan it itself which would result in army debuff.

[visual willow]

i'd rather, again, have an actually unique mechanic plus i thought those where strange

[spice oyster]

I thought that it could add some difficulty for Germany because if it would be combined with some other debuffs it would create preasure on German player to advance quickly because otherwise German war machine would slow down and Hitler would start getting paranoid and stop trust his generals

[visual willow]

isnt current MP allied favoured though? i dont see the point in making germany weaker in that case

[spice oyster]

I dont play multiplayer

Germany in SP is totally op

[visual willow]

that's not the "fault" of the countries potentional though

that's the AI's fault

if you want sp to be better balanced, improve the AI. dont nerf germany

[spice oyster]

I dont know if Paradox is into improving AI

[visual willow]

point still stands , germany being "OP" has nothing to do with germany but rather the sheer incompetence of everything else

[spice oyster]

yes but if Paradox decides to rework Germany there should be some nerfs by content

[visual willow]

well, atleast people for MP would still use mods ig

but eh imo germany rework should come along with a greater game rebalance

[spice oyster]

i get your point but the fact that Germany is OP isnt made just by stupidity of AI

for example Germany has basically no problems with resources

[visual willow]

rubber

oil

[spice oyster]

yes but it doest hurt them that much

[visual willow]

yeah?

air, tanks

[spice oyster]

you can get oil from Romania

[visual willow]

literally every country can trade

"no problems with resources" externds to everyone then making it nothing special for germany

[spice oyster]

resources should be reworked too

but there are lots of problems in game that should be improved

[kindred night]

No Rubber 100% hurt they
Air superiority is big in this game

No air superiority = hard to push in russia in mp

[visual willow]

america has 1 state that has more oil then all of eurasia combined

[kindred night]

America moment

[spice oyster]

My owerall thought was just that in German rework there should be somethink to make them weaker because it is not normal if they capture Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad by 41-42

all those think apply to SP

[visual willow]

except that you should not balance around sp

literally everything is 10 times easier in sp

by the same logic, the USSR and britain need to be nerfed because you can just waltz over everything

[spice oyster]

yeah but I dont mean if player kills AI

thats easy

but i meant that German AI destroys other AIs

[visual willow]

then the ai of other nations need to be better, not base germany to be weaker

otherwise you would make SP even easier

[spice oyster]

but then why Soviets and Italy have national spirits which gives them debuffs

[visual willow]

so the player is weaker, not the ai. so you can't justify from day1 and just eat everything up willy nilly (though, well, you still can)

those arent made to make the ai weaker, but more just everything

making the ai WEAKER in hoi4 is really not the way you should go

[spice oyster]

i dont want to make ai weaker

[visual willow]

???

[spice oyster]

i just want to have little bit more authentic sp game

[visual willow]

so we should buff all other ais, right

[spice oyster]

it could be the solution

there could be lots of solutions

my point was that it should be somewhat more historical on "historical"

I dont know how to describe it better

its on paradox if they would improve it

i hope you understood

[visual willow]

aslong as it still is the ai just trying and not intentionally shooting themselves in the foot to achieve "historical"

[autumn anvil]

The german ai just tries harder than most

[gleaming wolf]

I set ai to stronger cuz why not then I loose(16 hour playtime only)

[solid gyro]

Austria, Germany, and Belgium all need a rework + focus tree lol

Though Czechoslovakia, Hungary need reworks

So they should do a kind of DLC where it includes reworks for Germany and Hungary, while getting trees for Luxembourg, Belgium, Austria

“Danubian Bund”

[visual willow]

If belgium gets a tree it should be added into MTG

They can't do that much different then the netherlands so it would be more recycling then new content

Luxembourg.... well it's luxembourg. Tf are they gonna do?

Rather have a reworked base tree over lux tree

[solid gyro]

hmm you got a point there

Germany needs tree after 6 years tho

But I wonder since they did return to the paradox offices what they’re gonna do now

[visual willow]

6 years? Wtt came out in 2018

[solid gyro]

DLC Tree announcement was 2017

[solid gyro]

Legit waiting for this lol

[visual willow]

They usually arent even finished untill days before launch

[solid gyro]

They should do smth to RT56 with updating and such

Though let’s see what they got in stock for 2023

[visual willow]

Or just.... like any mod that updates their old content and not just rt56

Actual reworks would be great. I hope they tackle DoD before germany though cause they are even more outdated

[solid gyro]

Czechoslovakia should get a path where they can reclaim Silesia and try to core it from Germany, also greater Moravia would be pretty cool

[visual willow]

Czechoslovakia coring silesia? Is there like an actual reason for it or just "well it's closeby"

Or "random ass kingdom that has barely anything to do with modern day country held it 5000 years ago" logic

[solid gyro]

Historical reasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Bohemia

[solid gyro]

Not really far back tbh

It should relate to the Austro-Hungarian trees also

[solid gyro]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moravia

[lunar folio]

I mean the Bohemia one is a decent explanation, although the Great Moravia thing is definitely the "random ass kingdom that has barely anything to do with modern day country held it 5000 years ago"

[spice oyster]

Part of silesia was part of czechoslovakia and is part of czech republic even now

[visual willow]

Keyword: "part"

[spice oyster]

So it would make sence to reclaim all of silesia

[visual willow]

Poland got parts of belarus and ukraine after the polish-soviet war. Does it make sense for them to core all of belarus and ukraine based solely on that?

[smoky hinge]

They really wanted all of it irl

[visual willow]

Belgium owns a part of the rhineland, eupen-malmady. Should they also core all of germany/the rhine based solely on that?

[visual willow]

Then claims should suffice, not cores

[smoky hinge]

The historical tree does that

[spice oyster]

Poland can recreate commonwealth

[visual willow]

Claiming is only saying you want it and not the citizens fuly supporting you after all

[spice oyster]

It is really hard to say which would make sence and which not

[visual willow]

Doesnt core it all. Plus that's remaking an old closely tied kingdom, not coring it for the sake of "well they held 5% of that land so they should get everything"

[spice oyster]

And there are some pretty crazy states in hoi4

[lunar folio]

Are we looking at the same images Bohemia controlled like all of it

[visual willow]

Oh no not HRE bohemia, this is solely based on "well they are holding a tiny part of it"

[lunar folio]

Oh this one

Yeah that makes no sense

[visual willow]

the UK should be able to core china, because they hold hongkong

[smoky hinge]

"Go ahead Hong Kong my day"

[spice oyster]

Ok so maybe czechoslovakia shouldn't core silesia but atleast should get somethink in focus tree to get it

And In game are some crazy states like byzantium, Rome, Turan, Macedonia

[visual willow]

Like claims for example

[visual willow]

Rome was kinda an actual meme tbf

Likr you conquered all of europe as italy, you already won anyways

[spice oyster]

So saying that silesia was part of bohemian kingdom and it doesn't make sense from ww2 perspective because it is old doesn't make that much sence

[visual willow]

Most formables dont make sense, but coring silesia also isnt exactly a formable as you dont..... form anything

[spice oyster]

And about that hong kong, silesia isn't colony of bohemia

[smoky hinge]

This is also very small scale compared to other formables for meme alt history paths

Make them do something more interesting, like the Danubian federation

[visual willow]

The danube only barely touches slovakia

But like a democratic path to have an military alliance and if at war with a major being able to group up into 1 big danubian defensive pakt seems.... Wild but ok

[smoky hinge]

You gotta think about what would make it fun

[spice oyster]

They had little entante

With romania and yugoslavia

[visual willow]

Something like bulgaria ig

[visual willow]

Coring your allies for the sake of having cores is dumb

Literally the only nation that would make sense for is the soviet union

[spice oyster]

i didnt meant as coring but as defensive alliance

[solid gyro]

Coring shouldnt be instant, everything should be a claim that can be cored, silesia was historically part of it, also austria hungary, it had a slavic population as well. But if silesia can be cored based on "well its slavic, was part of us at one point of history and has similar culture" then so should southern poland be. Greater checkoslovakia should have both silesia and galicia, as galicia is very multicultural, socioeconomic development is was different that npoland, which had its economy and culture under russian influence for a long time.

Best option for expanding CZ should be to just encompass northern slavic people of austria hungary, and get claims on silesia they can core over time, considering it has both slavic population and historical reasoning behind it.

not to mention first and foremost its a game, it needs to be fun and have reason for expansionism, war is primary reason the game is as it is, everything in the sphere of states being ethnically, culturally or politically connected and therefor able to cored is alright, but "but it was same country in 1500!!! it was literally same country!! they controlled it at one point!!" is purely made for larp and power fantasy and fun.

Might as well at that point give cores on most of russia to mongolia.

[spice oyster]

I don't see reason why Czechoslovakia can't get core on silesia too, of course it would be in alt history path

As you said it was part of that country

HOI4 has some pretty crazy alt history paths and giving chance to core silesia to Czechoslovakia doesn't seem that nonsence to me

It could be part of some decent monarchist branch

[solid gyro]

If its on cultural, ethnic or political basis then it makes sense. Like the roman and byzantine stuff if just power fantasy. But CZ getting cores on silesia does have historical and cultural basis

They should be able to form a north slavic state like yugoslavia but consisting of chezcs slovaks rusyns silesian poles and peoples in galicia.

I think all ideologies and paths could do that, but bigger power fantasy stuff like slavic empire or commonwealth should only be left to exclusive non historical paths like monarchy etc

So only time its formed is when you go out of your way in non historical game to do it. Not like now where fascist croatia can form austria hungary for example lol.

[visual willow]

tbf russian forming a pan-slavic union isnt completely too wild
but czechoslovakia? ehhh

[spice oyster]

Greater Moravia, Bohemian kingdom or even HRE would be better than panslavic union

[visual willow]

czechoslovak HRE is a big stretch

[spice oyster]

That HRE thing is based on that Czech king was actually emperor of HRE

You know just for the meme

[visual willow]

as a hidden path sure i can kinda see it

but depending on which other countries get reworked i would rather them have a secret

1 secret meme/easter egg path per update is more then enough

any more is oversaturation

[spice oyster]

But I think that paradox won't rework DoD focuses in a while

[visual willow]

alongside TFV trees they are the most outdated ones

i could see either getting fullblown reworks first

[spice oyster]

because they did some improvements for those in war effort updates

[visual willow]

dod because it's just more relevant, being in the balkans opposed to spread around the world in some not that interesting location sometimes

[visual willow]

those will never be enough for them to be good trees

[spice oyster]

Yes

[spice oyster]

I just ment ment there is no logic for Paradox to do small improvements for those old trees if they would be planning to do full rework for them

[hexed glacier]

Some older trees need small improvements

Canada is one that just needs the mutual between manpower and factories to be removed and it's good

[visual willow]

for the inbetween period to make them abit more bearble

[hexed glacier]

India is ok atm with the ability to get rid of agrarian society

[spice oyster]

Yes

[visual willow]

their tree is still horrendously uncreative with nothing really in it

[hexed glacier]

I mean yeah thats also true

Aus, SAF and NZL need reworks badly

Hungary just needs better paths that aren't A-H

Czechs need a complete rework

Yugo is fine

Romania needs more work

[visual willow]

AH is also kinda thrash

if it wasnt for the rose-tinted glasses of "wholesome ww1 monarchy!!" people would find it just a weird path

only claims, not even wargoals
too RNG for vital parts of your run

[hexed glacier]

VERY true

They have kinda sorted out the RNG a little bit

There are ways to make it go in your favour

[visual willow]

yugo also needs expansion, like, where the fuc- are the partisans???

[hexed glacier]

VERY TRUE

[visual willow]

the communist path also just makes all your problems go away in 1 focus

[hexed glacier]

Completely forgot about them

Yeah it's weird in hindsight that they haven't given them a post cap focus tree like France or Poland

[spice oyster]

In my opinion there are some tweaks needed to make axis ocupation work better and give them some comie uprising

[hexed glacier]

yeah

[visual willow]

yugo also getting pan-balkan (or atleast pan-southern slavic) lil tree would also be l;ogical considering bulgaria's unification of the balkans (communist) is based on yugo accepting it

[spice oyster]

Tito had actually plans for greater yugoslavia

[hexed glacier]

yeah there should be a tree that expands yugo into Albania and Bulgaria

Wait isn't there a route to at least get them into your faction as tito yugo?

[visual willow]

you can get all the balkans into your faction

[spice oyster]

You can make them to be comie and in your faction

You know, but those older trees are pretty simplistic

[mortal veldt]

ikr

like let us become communist after germany/italy occupies us and become partisans

• we need an focus tree for yugoslavia to do while capitulated

[silk garden]

playing as capped countries is fun

[sweet hare]

anyone else all their mod playlist empty? after the latest paradox launcher update -,-

[spice oyster]

If resistance and guerilla warfare was better represented in game i think it would be fun for capped countries and even for occupiers

[silk garden]

way less than as a normal uncapped country

which is fun

its a challenge but not too big

you gotta do big money maneuvers

[cedar parrot]

Germany having to deal with all of occupied nations would be hell

im sorry

[lunar folio]

Yeah just like real life

[cedar parrot]

Germany already needs like 3 people to play optimally

maybe 4

No need to make it worse

[lunar folio]

Germany needs like half a person to play good enough

[cedar parrot]

only cos AI doesn't have a brain

[silk garden]

yea but point stands

[drowsy plank]

Germany only needs 1 person to be played as long as you have decent allies from my experience, its just that most of the people that immediately go on Germany in mp are pretty terrible at the game

For instance I played a game where Germany did a space marine army but didn't build regular tank divisions while I was France... I just had AT and AA as support companies in my infantry and my defence held easily in spite of half of my army being on the way home from Asia after killing a Japan that had attacked early, before I had to shift those troops to Britain to kill off a successful naval invasion there. Within two ingame years me and Britain had capitulated germany

Germany isn't all that hard, most of the people playing it just aren't any good at the game

[grave hollow]

air controller hungary would go a long way

if that's still a thing

[silk garden]

uhhh no

germany needs coops

unless youre playing a stupid vanilla mod with such concepts as "air controller hungary" and "inf controller italy" 🤮

and most decent servers have requirements to play majors

tfb and variants are best mp mods anyways

[hexed glacier]

Air controller Hungary is a meta that's been out of date for like 3-4 years now

[drowsy plank]

@silk garden I was talking about playing the game with friends or just for the fun of it, not try harding in a historical game where your players ragequit if they mistime a single piece of research

Occasionally Germany gets co-ops sure, but that's mostly if you also give the Soviets one and even then most of the time you don't

[silk garden]

you speak of small mp games, i speak of big mp games

which are also usually for fun

bc its a game

most people play games to have fun

and soloing ussr against a full axis is impossible

[hexed glacier]

Wait HOI4 is supposed to be fun?

[drowsy plank]

I speak of games with up to
20 players. A lot of the time in those the eastern front is essentially a 1vs1 between Germany and the Soviets while everyone else in the Axis is too busy trying to keep the allies/whomever else they are fighting from steamrolling them

Hell half the time there isn't even much of an eastern front since the Germans either lose to the French or just ally with the soviets

[silk garden]

that barb must be boring lol

[drowsy plank]

French with most of the Axis as puppets vs the Soviets and their allies is often interesting

Though the Soviet German alliance almost never wins

Like 3 games out of the 20 or so where it formed they got their victory

[prisma wing]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-giga-chad-chad-gif-23788137

[solid gyro]

here's what the devs should do with Germany Overhaul

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2885517696&searchtext=Overhaul

though its gonna be rough since due to some logos that may need to be censored

[hexed glacier]

If pdx does rework Germany, there are a couple of things that I think should be represented.

1. Germany was never going to get Atomic weapons before the Americans. Fascist Germany should not be able to get nukes in a reasonable time frame. Alternate paths should make it easier to get nukes, with Democratic removing any nuke debuffs.

2. Germany war economy was awful. Germany should be an early game country where it needs to put itself in a winning position before it gets out scaled by the USSR and USA.

[visual willow]

Nukes already arent that great so why have debuffs on specifically germany for nukes?

[silk garden]

because they considered nuclear research "jewish science"

[drowsy plank]

Eh I wouldn't say give them debuffs, just remove their current buff

also what are you talking about, nukes are a pretty important late game weapon

of the last five games I lost, three where because my opponent had nukes and green air and just used them to rip points in the lines they were attacking to shreds

They literally take away half the equipment of all divisions in a tile

late game where you have twelve per tile and one or two of those are tanks... that hurts

especially since it takes two ingame weeks or so before the replacements get to them

and if they nuke a few more times the divisions will just disappear

[hexed glacier]

Nukes are great, they're just inconsistent

Also Nuking Airfields is busted

How to delete an air force in 5 clicks

Also yeah a lot of the scientist that worked on the Manhattan project where Jewish Germans escaping from Nazi Germany, which is something that is represented in game with the scientist decisions

And Nazi higher ups thought that Nuclear Science was Jewish Science as Ender pointed out

Christ I would probably wager that the Soviets would've got Nukes before Nazi Germany did

[visual willow]

Tbf somaliland can get nukes aswell with default tree so uhh

"Declare nuclear science as honorary aryan science" decision?

[hexed glacier]

That's more a problem of the default tree being op and horrifically out of date

Also having a decision that fundamentally changes Nazi ideology at the click of a button is bad on multiple levels

[visual willow]

multiple quite bad focuses tbf

slovakia for danzig

"the poles took a tiny bit of contested area in czechoslovakia so obviously they want all of slovakia, so much so that they want to give up their only sea access!!!"

the only way i can see it working is promising them on an invasion of lithuania and giving them lithuani and befriending them

[spice oyster]

Shouldn't be nuclear technology just locked for non-major countries?

[visual willow]

meh sounds too dumb

[spice oyster]

Or somehow limited

[visual willow]

yeah that

bit too limitating

[spice oyster]

My idea is that if atomic bombs were more harder to get, there would be more place to make them more powerfull

[visual willow]

they did say they want to add on to wonderweapons so

[spice oyster]

I guess we can wait on what will paradox prepare for us

[hexed glacier]

IRL the only country that had the resources, time, money and will to make a nuclear weapon was the US

They needed like tonnes of raw materials to make the reactors just to enrich the Uranium

For the first reactor they needed smth like 15k tonnes of Silver and they straight up asked the US treasury for it and they gave it to them

[visual willow]

yeah knowing how to make a nuke is 1 thing

having the stuff to produce one is another

[hexed glacier]

Actually the amount of silver that they needed might've been for all reactors that they made, I can't remember off of the top of my head atm

Still it's a lot

[violet vigil]

90168154043067403

[haughty summit]

why i can't enter the game

My game runs on a mac

Game loading stuck at loading images

[hollow lion]

Wrong channel

[haughty summit]

I have not made any modifications to the game body

ok

？

[haughty summit]

where

[hallow ivy]

what version for millenium dawn?

[solid gyro]

1.12

[pale acorn]

Bruh basic medium tank chassis is now 1938 tech

[solid gyro]

Hey uh the dlc is tagged with nudity…. Wtf

@pseudo wing as a community manager this seems like your department probably, might wanna get that removed on steam

[pseudo wing]

That is quite odd, I'll look into it.

But if you see stuff like this in future, make sure to make a ticket that way it can be shown to the entire Community Team, as its past work hours for all of us at the moment 🙂

[peak chasm]

Is it just me or the beta is running fine as hell?

i mean finer than normal

[solid gyro]

they are user tagged

[foggy drum]

Lol

[hexed glacier]

Can someone explain to me what this does and if it's a buff or not

I'm not familiar with naval modifiers

[silk garden]

sounds like a buff not cv navs

more dmg, less likely to get shot down

[civic rain]

ok lemme explain

detection is the planes ability to get spotted on mission, this involves it in an air battle or in this case naval where it comes down to the air attack of the ship vs ur air defence

disruption is basically stopping your planes from doing missions by putting fighters up

the more damaged a ship is, the more of a damage multiplier you get

[hexed glacier]

Right thank you

[past tendon]

have they fixed the anti-soviet military thinking maluses

[spice oyster]

idea of tank research reorganization seems good to me but it is little bit buggy (photo taken on 16:10 monitor, UI scaling 0,8)

if i set UI scaling on 1.0 it looks like this

[wet marten]

What’s buggy about that?

Oh I see.

At least the techs are at the same height.

[autumn anvil]

That looks

Quite weird

[solid gyro]

Holy shit guys its world of tanks

[steep ivy]

yeah and hate the removal of the 1934 medium. makes no sense. why have a 2 year gap between the moels. makes it useless

[autumn anvil]

Fr

[spice oyster]

Developer said that ui would be fixed in next patch

[steep ivy]

are the reverseighn the 1938 med back to 1934 a 2 year gap makes no sense

[lunar folio]

The UI in what way?

[steep ivy]

have you seen the tank research UI?

[lunar folio]

Actually no I'll go check it out

[visual willow]

It is likely in response to the fact everyone uses mediums and almost noone uses heavies/lights
But like.... tanks already are quite mehhh now especially after the new nerfs.... why not buff lights and heavies?

[lunar folio]

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the UI

[spice oyster]

.

[lunar folio]

Oh I see. They broke it for wide monitors

On standard monitors it is fine

[steep ivy]

my issue is by the time I start makign them war happens i do use light tanks.. note this is as germany. as is by the time i can start usign them I am already at panzer 4 makign my panzers threes . this makes it worse

[visual willow]

I mean i'm pretty sure the best thing to do was to just use med 1s, not 3/4

[steep ivy]

panzer 3 is the german med 1

[visual willow]

Yeah it's a stupid balance change, they completely went into the wrong direction

[steep ivy]

minus the soviet issue rollback this update

by the way does that soviet bug effect 12.7 i rolled back and will stay there till this error of an update is undone?

[green aspen]

bro what the heck

look at the generals

[lunar folio]

God young Franco is ugly

[green aspen]

is rep spain meant to have franco?

[lunar folio]

No

[green aspen]

then why do I have franco

[lunar folio]

A bug

[green aspen]

even if they did sin paquito he wouldnt join us right

[lunar folio]

I don't think so

[green aspen]

actually nationalist spain time line

sanjuro to military to manuel fal conde

but wheres franco gone?

also wtf im going communist as if he would join me lol

[silk garden]

nah you can get him if they dont do sin paquito

[green aspen]

oh fr

[silk garden]

yeee

[drowsy plank]

I'm going to be honest I don't understand what you mean with tanks being 'meh'. Good heavy tanks can get up to 4k soft attack and 5k breakthrough in battle while costing less to produce than good aircraft

[visual willow]

Compared to the rest

Tanks got overall a bit nerfed last patch

While air got quite more expensive

[still marsh]

anyone else having issues with the new patch?

also tanks are fun

simple as

[unkempt pond]

my game is crashing

not crashing

but it's going to application not responding

yeah it's when im loading the game

[velvet shuttle]

no anime pfp?

https://tenor.com/view/stare-christian-bale-handsome-gif-13379950

[lunar folio]

Do you really think a naked man grabbing at you is better

[velvet shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/optimus-primen-gif-19605635

[mild kite]

Tanks are strong af but are also expensive af

[drowsy plank]

Depends on what you're going for

good tanks to fight other tanks and infantry, yes those are somewhat expensive

good tanks against infantry, especially AI infantry? Usually only between two and three times as expensive as artillery

[hollow lion]

who though

[glossy imp]

SPART my beloved

absolutely chews AI infantry

[wraith sable]

they moved 1934 med tank to 1938?

[lunar folio]

Yes

[harsh hull]

Dang dude, mediums were my crutch

To cover up for the fact that I'm actually awful at the game

[solid gyro]

anything but anime pfp

[modest lava]

so um

I mean they are renovating older focus trees

did paradox plan on improving althistory paths for USSR?

they are all so bugged right now...

[visual willow]

How are they bugged?

Except the coup still bugging out

Cause the paranoia issue got fixed

[modest lava]

well, not just the coup, but modifiers paranoia thing still exists

[visual willow]

Can't you get rid of the paranoia problems post CW? I thought i removed one or all of those eventually

[modest lava]

I'm literally right now playing as right opposition, and Stolin dissolved Ilyishin and Yakovlev bureaus, and I can't reinstate them becasue paranoia meter is completely gone

and I had to take paranoia hits whenever he wanted to add perma modifiers because you can't get rid of them either 😦

[visual willow]

Hmm strange then
Also, this doesnt really fit in with improving ussr althist paths but rather just general bugfixing like turkiye making a faction

[modest lava]

i just wanna have my bugs fixed as USSR because their alt hist paths are not very fun

not because focuses are bad or something, but dealing with stalin post stalin death is just way too annoying

i dont really care about it, but its just very sad to have

i kinda wanted to get ilyushin bureau but i guess poor me

[visual willow]

I mean ehhhh the paths could definitely use improving general focus wise

[modest lava]

focuses are kinda insane on right path at least

you can get 0% CG civ factories

[visual willow]

Isnt the economic law absolutely garbage though, kinda counterproductive

[modest lava]

it is insne wdym

[visual willow]

I mean, compared to war mob it is kinda thrash from what i remember

Cause there was a debuff to building factories

Or atleast not as much

[modest lava]

it gives you 15% CG and -15% construction cost

i mean speed

[visual willow]

Doesnt sound worth it

I'd rather have 7% consumer goods and +30% building speed to mils then -15 for everything

[modest lava]

then you buff it to go down to 10% and also +10% factories in a state and debuff it to 20% construction speed

[visual willow]

For an economic focused ussr tree it sure is worse then the stalin tree

Sure it has no buffs to construction but like, you don't get a civil war aswell which f**ks up your industry temporarily

[modest lava]

this tree is focused on insane on producing mil stuff, not on construction

i think if you play your cards right (get the pun? :>) you can get to 50-80% factory output bonus

there are also some of the most insane political advisors that arent available to Stalin

like look at Tomsky

[visual willow]

I still have to do a right opposition/supreme soviet run idk maybe i will figure it out then

[modest lava]

if you can somehow do civil war and avoid all purges

you can probably become the best country in the world by 1940

by a long shot

absolutely thanos snap military

with like 1 billion tanks

but stalin is my favorite path too tbh

its so much better than oppositions right now

[visual willow]

Especially cause no CW

[modest lava]

especially cause there are focuses that reduce paranoia giving you the chance to avoid additional purges

while in Stalin focus tree literally every focus reduces paranoia

[visual willow]

Probably because you are actualy planning a civil war

[modest lava]

well yes, but maybe there could be a focus like "suck stalin's toes to shy him away from civvy warry not-so-important-thingy"

to like reduce his pp by 80 or something

[wet marten]

That’s been in the game for a while. If you don’t do the civil war you can’t get rid of the paranoia shit. So no coup.

[solid gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFcstT0rMU&t=265s\

[ocean field]

are there any research exploits atm

[visual willow]

` research_all should still work

[rapid terrace]

still work

[modern silo]

Did they fixed the bug where in "By Blood Alone" aircraft naval attack on carrier mission is always 1 ?

[grave cargo]

Is someone online for a game?

[hollow lion]

Try the multiplayer channels

[alpine elm]

how do I get naval supremacy for a small moment

as a small navy

im the netherlands and I need naval supremacy in the north sea

[languid nexus]

#ask-for-help-here

[tranquil axle]

make a sub or something

[turbid bane]

Beforehand you were able to spam cheap subs but that has been patched

So you can either build a big navy (which is hard for the netherlands) or just spam naval bombers

[fossil bough]

Use minelaying, naval bombers, intel etc for every bit of advantage you can get

[alpine elm]

Can I get intel with radar stations?

[turbid bane]

Yes

Though in my experience it's unescessary

If you have enough air superiority and naval bombers the AI will usually pull out compeltely

[winter fossil]

If y’all could rework one formable within HOI4 what formable would it be and why?

[visual willow]

not exactly 1 but allow more of them to be formed by puppets

like united baltics, united indonesia, united middle america etc should be formable by puppets

[wet marten]

I would like the pan North American state to be able to be formed by the imperial Canadian puppet.

[visual willow]

can't they? damn

[wet marten]

Last time I played only the Canadian tag can form it. Since they spawn from a civil war they don't have the Canadian tag.

[visual willow]

Oh THAT canadian puppet

[thorn ruin]

it worked for me

just tried it ~1 hour ago

you have to do "move to secure the dominions"

and also pick the decision in the pop-up event that let's you puppet british canada

oh wait do you mean playing AS british canada

[wet marten]

No as uk. Last time I tried was a year ago to be fair.

I like all other formables.

[whole forge]

is there a mod where you could do a axis victory

[visual willow]

Not the right channel

[grim tangle]

when a developer has an open beta for 4 days only to realize after release it needs to be changed

[winged summit]

Can anyone help me in tech support

[tribal stratus]

is it possible to automatically name the cag squadrons like this in the next version?

[haughty wave]

Now Hejin's educational concept
Everything is at the forefront. For the sake of grades, we can ignore the epidemic situation. No matter whether the students live or die, there are so many homework that we can only sleep for five or six hours every night. What can we do?

[solid gyro]

don't understand why firepower kills is on defensive instead of offensive

[wet marten]

I mean maybe not defensive, but I don’t know about offensive. Infantry focused army wouldn’t come to mind as offensive.

[civic needle]

any news on next DLC/update? Been radio silent,

[analog scarab]

The last update came out a handful of days ago, and BBA came out less than half a year ago.

That's hardly "radio silent".

[lunar folio]

HOI4 is radio silent because the devs aren’t constantly whispering code into my ear

[visual willow]

It's likely going to be the nordics

Unless they choose to rework an old dlc

But that's kinda a wild guess

[acoustic steeple]

why do only I and not my enemies get debuffed from forts

[normal plaza]

Cause your killing them in self defense. Seriously though artillery massively raises the defense value of a division so it's logical.

[solid gyro]

Ahh alright

[acoustic steeple]

Whats the latest hoi4 version?

[last grail]

does anyone know when 1.12.9 is out for x box store

[solid gyro]

infantry guns are defensive

from the 1930s onward

the real arm of any offense is the tank

[analog scarab]

What a wildly inaccurate take on every subject raised.

[lunar folio]

Kid named Combined Arms Warfare

[solid gyro]

Actually did it as England in HOI4

Ya need a shitton of infantry and it can be made into an offensive onto everyone, and conquer much

Used the bittersteel template

INFINFINF
INFINFINF
INFARTART
INF

Support Engineer
Artillery Engineer
Motorized Engineer

Though I lost that due to not having many divisions, Germans wiped me off afterwards

But it was fun experimenting it lol

[silk garden]

just call it an 8/2

[winter crown]

was light machine guns additional modules nerfed?