hoi4-general

[tall fjord]

after my first sapin run im never touching spain again

[tropic sky]

Yeah
Im just asking some stuff

[safe wing]

They have 4 settlements Nicaea, Adrianople, Smyrna and Amastris

[gleaming quiver]

they're good for singleplayer and learning the game mechanics but there's not really that many good MP guides out there, you kinda gotta learn through either being taught by someone, co-oping someone good, or checking savegames of someone good to see their build

[valid arrow]

When I first played, Switzerland catipulated me, next is Belgium, next is Holland etc... all as Germany. Then I realized why I lost to them

[tall fjord]

i once capitulated to denmark as germany.

[lapis snow]

those later starts do make it much more of a challenge

[tall fjord]

that sh was embarassing

[tropic sky]

Thx sir ,nice

[valid arrow]

I think catipulated by Swits is more embarassed than Denmark

[tall fjord]

no switzerland has good defense and terrain

denmark is...

denmark

[safe wing]

Exactly

[hollow silo]

theres formable for nordic

[gleaming quiver]

no problem mate

[tall fjord]

it was historical denmark

[hollow silo]

mb

i was blins

[tall fjord]

i didnt play finland yet

But i think among the nordics sweden is the best

i love the monarchist path

[valid arrow]

I hate Nordic countries

Whenever I invade them

Bad supplies

[tall fjord]

who wouldve guessed, cold middle of nowher eplaces are empty

[quiet vessel]

bad opinion

[inner jewel]

getting that top part of norway is so annoying if norway's allies are piling troops on 1 tile

[quiet vessel]

i fix that by just never invading norway✌️🥹

[misty fossil]

3774 mils on tanks

[quiet vessel]

is zis a mod

[grizzled yarrow]

yeah

it only adds a democratic path to russia

[inner jewel]

what am I looking at

[paper echo]

ma albania

[copper linden]

how many hours does it usally take to actully learn hoi4

[feral spear]

I just know ts op

[grizzled yarrow]

sure is

its like german democratic path where u can to integrate stuff

but only for a couple of countries to be more balanced

[feral spear]

I was abt to say
Shit gonna let you core everything and give like +.1 compliance growth

[valid arrow]

Convert it to how many times you get catipulated

[hollow silo]

depends on how u learn it

[feral spear]

what do you consider learned

to be able to win a single player game as Germany is not that hard

[grizzled yarrow]

i got to core the baltics poland romania and finland

[valid arrow]

But it's not vanilla right

[grizzled yarrow]

yeah

500 factories as well

[feral spear]

no theres no Vanilla Democratic path for Russia

[grizzled yarrow]

im early 1942

not bad

[feral spear]

which is dumb

[grizzled yarrow]

idk folk

ig they werent bothered to add it

[feral spear]

tbf most althist democracy trees just

[hollow silo]

only communist path are great for soviet

[feral spear]

suck

[grizzled yarrow]

niet

[feral spear]

althistory democracy trees just suck all around

[grizzled yarrow]

the german one is still powerfull

[lapis snow]

not everyone should be able to go all ideologies imo

[valid arrow]

Ger is strong tho

[feral spear]

yeah but its the lamest bullshit who gives a shit if its strong

"yeah get some free land and invite half of Europe into a giga faction"

[hollow silo]

as well as monarchy path for france
they just suc

[feral spear]

fair

[grizzled yarrow]

democracies would be fun if u dint have the 100 world tension debuff to justify on countries

[valid arrow]

Well the entire Europe faction whopped my azz yesterday

[silk furnace]

well depends

if u played a lot of strat games

it can be less than 100

[feral spear]

Democracies ARE fun when

they're the allies

and its historical

[grizzled yarrow]

now do i bring the better democracy to the allies or js end it here

[silk furnace]

but like 2-250 is middleground

[valid arrow]

Try getting attacked by them

They're steonger than Axis

[feral spear]

this tbh Hoi4 was my first strategy game and it took me around 400 hours to be middling

to like at least understand how the game is played

[grizzled yarrow]

ok time to install a mod to bypass the wolrd tension limit to justify on the allies

[tall fjord]

why tf is costa rica there on the corner

[paper echo]

im playing random country placement mod

[grizzled yarrow]

holy outdated mod

but should still work

[hollow silo]

toolpack

technically

[feral spear]

is it true you can add support companies but blacklist supply equip. and trucks to your division template and still get the hp boost

[misty fossil]

@craggy trail curious but when does dread league usually attack

its 1023 and they havent done anything. also can you send me the ban appeal for the eaw discord

[feral spear]

wait I can check
ya it is

[misty fossil]

<@&846894118219022336>

[silk furnace]

atleast its not war thunder tag this time

all the other checks are still being checked tho

[hollow silo]

'april 12'

[misty fossil]

@tulip thorn

[tulip thorn]

I dont think they do on hist

[solid dirge]

guys do any of yall know the mod that expands the alternate history options n the settings

I forgot the name

I cant find it

[blazing raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-kai-cenat-ban-him-kai-cenat-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-him-ban-gif-8658397593616220767

<@&846894118219022336>

[tulip thorn]

non historical actually made playable

[crisp wyvern]

Hey guys

It's me

[hard valve]

guys

i just produced a nuke

[tulip thorn]

Yeah pretty sure they dont on hist

[hard valve]

should i nuke the uk

[misty fossil]

do they just

[solid dirge]

wasnt what I was talking ab but worth a try

[misty fossil]

not do anything ever?

[tulip thorn]

I've never seen them do it once in my entire time playing equestria at war

[misty fossil]

oh my god

[solid dirge]

the mod I ment just allowed more specific options in the game menu for alt history

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

Non historical actually made playable does that

[solid dirge]

oh alr

[hollow silo]

2875815891

[crisp wyvern]

my ass is so broke that I have to search for mods that allow me to launch nuclear missiles at other countries for vanilla without wasting 10 bucks or so in Götterdämmerung

[misty fossil]

4885 factories on tanks

[crisp wyvern]

We know it's you Stalin

[lapis snow]

amazing that you fetch the mod id but can't just copy-paste the workshop link

[hollow silo]

its called AI Behavior Expansion

[misty fossil]

100ic tanks lets go

[blazing raptor]

question of the day : What is the easiest country to play with in Hoi4?

[tiny iris]

This is how I like my HOI4

Overly complex for no reason.

[blazing raptor]

Lol

[sudden thistle]

Germany has op everything

[blazing raptor]

good choice imma say

[sudden thistle]

Except starting navy

[blazing raptor]

yeah

u gotta build it yourself

right

[fair horizon]

bhutan

[misty fossil]

tung tung country

[tiny iris]

Fixed it.

[blazing raptor]

how so

[tiny iris]

Why am I doing this to myself?

No reason

[blazing raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-gif-26978290

[fair horizon]

extremely strong and its neighbors are super weak

[craggy trail]

On historical, it doesn't go fully on the black crusade. However, in a world conquest, you get the option to finish off the dread league after you've defeated everyone else

[blazing raptor]

oh cool

[misty fossil]

i forgot to set dread league to go red flood

and im not sure is there a way to set it after ive started

[blazing raptor]

gonna try it out then

[misty fossil]

hes trolling

bhutan has no content

[craggy trail]

You can't change the game rules once you've started

[blazing raptor]

people have opinions i guesS?

[tiny iris]

No way you don't realize it's a joke.

[misty fossil]

im aware

[blazing raptor]

I know its a joke 😭

just acting all natural

[tiny iris]

Bhutan being shit is a fact, not opinion.

[blazing raptor]

xd

[misty fossil]

oh my god when will they even update dread league

[tiny iris]

I remember telling someone that hi meant a bad thing in Finnish and he just insulted a server full of Finns and he actually believed that and started apologizing.

[craggy trail]

How's the ai been working out for you?

[misty fossil]

also can i have the ban appeal form for their discord

[blazing raptor]

lol

[misty fossil]

i defeated changeling

[misty fossil]

i submitted one but i think it got rejected or something?

wow that frostbanner guy really hated me even after an entire year

[crisp wyvern]

sup muchachos

what are you guys talking about?

[blazing raptor]

lemme ping it for u

[blazing raptor]

e

[crisp wyvern]

ya sure

[crisp wyvern]

I find el salvador really easy for me to play

[blazing raptor]

whatttt?

how

[misty fossil]

@tulip thorn if you could help? sorry for the incessant pinging

[crisp wyvern]

Adaptation, rushing the unification of central America is also key move to survive

Manchuria is also another favorite nation for me to play

[tulip thorn]

Im ok with pings

[blazing raptor]

oh well i will try to play with it i guess

[misty fossil]

okay

[crisp wyvern]

Your name combined with your pfp makes me imagine Tank Dempsey from bo1 being a fan of mlp

[weary lagoon]

any british dominions are very easy to play, especially Canada

[tulip thorn]

I can send you the ban appeal

[weary lagoon]

imo canada is the easiest

[solid dirge]

Yo this mod is straight up peak

Thanks

[misty fossil]

ty

i turned dms on

[blazing raptor]

noted

[fair horizon]

someone help, how do landcruiser template

what do

[quasi osprey]

is this a good army for 1939

?

[misty fossil]

australia has mios?

[fair horizon]

NOT A PLANE ONE

[toxic night]

is this better than one production line churning out 15?

[misty fossil]

damn

you can put maximum 5 mils on land cruisers

[misty fossil]

this is what the ai is making

[grizzled yarrow]

Gen how do i beat the 1942 allies

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136531797925175316/1230091957095764039/this-peaks-this-reeks-ezgif.com-effects.gif

[grizzled yarrow]

The whole ahh benelux border is fortified

[untold cove]

why do you need 15 land cruisers per year

[grizzled yarrow]

Do yall got gud navy designs that can crush the allied navy

[tulip thorn]

Why not

[untold cove]

as germoney? nah, you need to steal some from other nations

defeat them before they can get into allies

[grizzled yarrow]

As ruski

[untold cove]

so you can have their navies

then ig you have time to build yourself some good navy

try germany starting light cruiser template

[grizzled yarrow]

All my navy commanders are DEAD

Stalin killed em all

[raven lotus]

this government I made is cursed

[raven lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229

[craggy trail]

Usually, it also makes Tank Destroyers but I guess not with the other mod changes

[misty fossil]

it does have td templates but its only making medium tds

[craggy trail]

Dedicated Anti-Air divisions also work pretty well with the new CAS heavy AI

[untold cove]

i guess that division doesnt really like planes

[fair horizon]

because i want 15 land cruisers asap

all my divs will be lancruiser divs

[untold cove]

waiter waiter there is a light tank in my cruiser division

[silk furnace]

casfarmers have always been good

seems like they are even better now

also may i ask why maintenance?

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War has a lot less industry so maintenance company in the mean time will recover some of the losses, though I could just use engineers for entrenchment instead

[silk furnace]

makes sense

[craggy trail]

And then there is the small upside to equipment capture rate, and also researching maintenance companies for the easy maintenance module if you are going for tanks

[misty fossil]

😭

[tawdry tree]

Should i add light sp arti in my tank divs

9 tanks battalion 4 mech and 2 light sp arti

Is that good providing my support companies are optimal

[tawdry thicket]

why

make the tanks and mech 1:1 ratio

[tawdry tree]

I just want the soft attack

[tawdry thicket]

would prob work against the ai either way

[tawdry thicket]

9 tanks 9 mech would be better

[tawdry tree]

Holy germany fumbled again I litteraly saved them in 1945 now they got nav to near dead in 1950

This is so fun guys

[tawdry tree]

Why

[tawdry thicket]

what year are you on

[tawdry tree]

8th march 1950

[tawdry thicket]

u are not SANE

anybody who plays above 1945 is not sane bro

[tawdry thicket]

low org

[tawdry tree]

I naval invaded the british island FOR THEM and yet they got 2nd d-day

[tawdry thicket]

more tanks less infantry = less org, division doesn't last long in battle

[tawdry tree]

K

Sweden doesnt have many people to garrison so i put on no garisson

Gg

[tawdry thicket]

btw u should've chatted this in #ask-for-help-here

[tawdry thicket]

who u playing as

[tawdry tree]

Nordic council

Sweden monarchist path

[tawdry thicket]

why is bro in the axis

[silk furnace]

10 8 can be better

depending on the situation

[tawdry thicket]

it's the ai anything can work

😋

[silk furnace]

TRUE

[misty fossil]

the inevitable wall of tanks

[tawdry thicket]

on mountains 🥀

[misty fossil]

they're plains

[tawdry thicket]

mb

I mistook the tank models

what are you even fighting that requires this army

[weary panther]

struggling to figure out why the price of HOI4 in india increased by nearly 270% in 3 years 😭

oh wait

stellaris did as well

crazy

[exotic bridge]

America if literally EVERYTHING went wrong

[raven lotus]

how

[exotic bridge]

bad economy it's probably the inflation

[exotic bridge]

bro

[weary panther]

weird only paradox games were affected by this

[exotic bridge]

look at the political pie man

bhuddism?

[raven lotus]

im a girl

[exotic bridge]

you got Al Gore

[raven lotus]

so?

[weary panther]

hi a girl

[raven lotus]

smartass

[weary panther]

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-mgs-rocket-metal-gear-idkguyidk-gif-6710607785251356347

[exotic bridge]

so? it's a word phrased and used with everyone "come on man" or "___ man" isn't specific to guys

[gritty mango]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-bubbles-homelander-blowing-bubbles-gif-11894150303476827467

[exotic bridge]

when a girl says "girl please" I don't say "I'm a guy"

[gritty mango]

Ladies please

[exotic bridge]

you have monarchism in a leading political spot

what went wrong

[topaz dove]

Who tf is Al gore

[exotic bridge]

most irrelevant candidate in recent history

[raven lotus]

the person who ran for president in 2000 against bush

[opal nymph]

He is the one who rode the mighty moon worm

[raven lotus]

and he invented the internet

[opal nymph]

At least in futurama

[grizzled yarrow]

Gen how many mils do u have on tanks

[opal nymph]

Al Gore did not invent the internet

Might have helped with it though, don't fully remember

[topaz dove]

Why haven't I heard of him? Is he ded, in prison or something

[grizzled yarrow]

The fu

[misty fossil]

al gore is old

no one talks about him anymore

[opal nymph]

He has no popularity and he still talks about climate change

[raven lotus]

thats the joke

[misty fossil]

yeah

[opal nymph]

Well, he is somewhat popular

He just doesn't have much of a personality

I think the joke is that he had the charisma of a cardboard box

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-benjammins-butler-paper-butler-reading-gem-gif-7106596213395698831

[topaz dove]

How chaotic is American politics back in the day?

[raven lotus]

here have some guns

[topaz dove]

Like early 2000

[exotic bridge]

how far back in the day

[opal nymph]

The 2000 election was crazy, but everyone was chill

[misty fossil]

1600s

[raven lotus]

no

[exotic bridge]

dear God

[opal nymph]

That moment a bunch of people voted for the Green party and threw away Al Gore's chances of winning

Bro won popular vote and lost the election because of a few hundred votes in Florida

[raven lotus]

then bush in 2004 only because of the war in iraq

[exotic bridge]

not that bad depends which decade but it was pretty chill besides the natives and those conflicts

[topaz dove]

Same like me... about 2000 hours and no achievement

[raven lotus]

I have 12000 hours

[silk furnace]

i dont have any achievements cuz i play mp

[exotic bridge]

they mean the achievment part

[topaz dove]

I know, I'm quite new, started playing 2 years ago

[silk furnace]

ggs

[exotic bridge]

wow freshie

[misty fossil]

@tulip thorn would you know any cool eaw country to play as

And obscure

stuff like ascendancy or whatever

[topaz dove]

I spend one year playing crack one tho, only last year I bought the real thing

[silk furnace]

what would someone who played for 5 years count as?

[exotic bridge]

beginner

[tulip thorn]

I dont

[opal nymph]

We go based on hours, not years

Sub 200 is a noob

[silk furnace]

how long have u been playing for?

[topaz dove]

I somewhat understand the navy, has 3.8 gpa but still don't understand women

[opal nymph]

200-500 is a beginner

500-1000 is intermediate

[tulip thorn]

I've been playing since 2022 and only have 2.5k hours 💔

[opal nymph]

1000+ is seasoned

[exotic bridge]

maybe a year first bought it 2 years ago then my PC broke and I couldn't play until like 9 months ago

[opal nymph]

Now to be an expert at navy

[silk furnace]

idk i have 2080 hours or sum

[exotic bridge]

so I'm not new?

[opal nymph]

That is a different story

[opal nymph]

No

I don't know your hours

[opal nymph]

Ah, well in either case, an intermediate is someone who knows how to do most things in the game to a basic degree

[exotic bridge]

yeah starting off took a while very big learning curve in this game

[topaz dove]

Damn, you guys can run mil dawn? My game starts lagging at 1941

[silk furnace]

ssd works wonders

[raven lotus]

skill issue

[exotic bridge]

that's so real it starts crashing at like 2010

not using that mod till I get a better PC

[opal nymph]

Simply don't play that extremely mid mod

[exotic bridge]

it's not mid it just needs some fixes

[raven lotus]

the perfect congress

[topaz dove]

I only play mods for extended tanks and plane design

And ship

Other mods can go to hell

[silk furnace]

honestly i wonder what a bice tank designer would do to vanilla hmp games

[topaz dove]

Huh...I don't understand

[topaz dove]

98 ws in 2003 🤣 🤣

[raven lotus]

?

[topaz dove]

If I'm not mistaken only like 70 percent of people who are pro war during 2003

[misty fossil]

Damn

[mild plaza]

@raven lotus @topaz dove lets not get into modern politics

[silk furnace]

joever

[raven lotus]

sorry

[drowsy lichen]

Anybody who wants to play historical game this Sunday?

[silk furnace]

yes i am

idk who asked

[drowsy lichen]

It’s tfb

[silk furnace]

not what i meant sry

but if its tfb send serv

[drowsy lichen]

Bruh 😭

[silk furnace]

i lowk replied to a ghost ping

probs wasnt even on this serv

[raven lotus]

@drowsy lichen

[drowsy lichen]

Bro is NOT part of the team

[raven lotus]

what?

[drowsy lichen]

I mean Russia

[raven lotus]

czar boris

[deep solstice]

Yo kaiser wilhelm II its 1919 how do you feel about a certain community?

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-boys-homelander-44

[tall fjord]

plot twist its the french: (they eat baguettes)

[tacit helm]

"i blame the jews for my political and militaristic failures" -kaiser wilhelm

[deep solstice]

Correct

[raven lotus]

why does he look so creepy

[tall fjord]

*the french

They eat baguettes

[raven lotus]

did he really say that?

[tacit helm]

prolly

he promoted the 1919 backstab theory

so he did dislike the jews

[tacit helm]

the dutch

they are dutch

[deep solstice]

He turned anti semetic after the war

[tacit helm]

holy shit i wasnt far off

[deep solstice]

https://www.jta.org/archive/ex-kaiser-dead-at-82-turned-anti-semitic-after-germanys-defeat

[raven lotus]

damnit dale

[deep solstice]

Germany from 1914-1945 was just a shitshow for the Jewish people

Like the hatred that functioned back then was actually insane

[dull oak]

Lebensraum

[deep solstice]

Germans really just were doing shit back then

[dull oak]

Jewish bolshevak

[ripe slate]

Doom, Holland?

Its Doorn, in the non-Holland part of the Netherlands

[deep solstice]

oh are you a neo

Im not jewish for saying that the concept of Lebensraum and mass killings are bad

I think I'm just sensible

[dull oak]

Wait why would u delete that

It's a song

[ripe slate]

Please dont discuss war crimes, its a PG13 server

[dull oak]

Why did u delete that 😠

[misty fossil]

and hes banned

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-25352670

@tulip thorn isnt there a guide in the eaw discord on how to get ascendancy

and the alchemy brewing thing

[ripe slate]

Same explanation

[tulip thorn]

Maybe? I'd check the wiki tbh

[misty fossil]

What wiki

[dull oak]

How is that war crimes

[tulip thorn]

The official eaw wiki

[misty fossil]

That exists?

Huh

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[dull oak]

Everything has a wiki bro

[dull oak]

Just realized
Is he saying jew

[full dove]

switzerland just random violated their neutrality and joined the allies 😭

[safe wing]

The only people that need to be wiped out are the French/J

[whole matrix]

What if Germany builded dam and invaded Britain by land in ww2

[silk furnace]

what if 2 planes would have been able to sabotage that?

[safe wing]

What if the USA dropped Caseoh on Japan in 1945

https://tenor.com/view/bad-day-earth-explode-asteroid-meteor-gif-12246672

[full dove]

i think the british would catch on to what was happening before the germans could do shi

[whole matrix]

Realistic

What if Germany stole nukes from USA in 1945

[deep solstice]

Sometimes I really do wonder if people are joking or not

[whole matrix]

It is a joke

[dull oak]

Dumb

[dull oak]

Greater germanic reich

[silk furnace]

what if the usa would have developed nukes in 1945?

[dull oak]

@deep solstice 😠

[silk furnace]

js think about how different the world would be

ww2 but with nukes

[whole matrix]

What if Germany genocided Germans instead of slavs and jews

[silk furnace]

like the world could have ended

[dull oak]

What if the USA didn't have German scientists

[deep solstice]

Yeah I agre

agree

imagine if the US nuked Japan

during ww2

[silk furnace]

dude

dont even think about it

[misty fossil]

live example of human hallucination

[deep solstice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ohh-17

[misty fossil]

no

[dull oak]

The would be terrible

[safe wing]

What if Japan had Goku in wwii

[silk furnace]

it would js cause so much more horror

true

[deep solstice]

yeah especially around august 8th

that would be a bad day for sure

[tawdry tree]

Its 1952 me as sweden finally liberated the german the italians and the balkans from the allies and soviet for the second time

Lets hope for the best

[dull oak]

They wouldn't have developed nukes without German scientists btw

[whole matrix]

What If Germany invaded USSR in ww2

[dull oak]

Same with paperclip

[silk furnace]

billions must die

[tawdry tree]

Billions must smile

[silk furnace]

:wholesome:

[safe wing]

What if Japan attacked Pearl Harbor

[azure crescent]

whod win tsar boris or... tsar boris...

[silk furnace]

what if ww2 happened?

[dull oak]

Me

[tawdry tree]

Ok I CANNOT GARRISON ALL THE FRENCH AND ITALIANS PORT THESE GUYS JUST PUMP TGEIR ENTIRE FRONTLINE ON THE SOVIET FRONT

[whole matrix]

What if ww3 happened in 1939

[safe wing]

What if Hitler and Stalin had a Yaoi style relationship

[silk furnace]

nah lemme save this one

[tawdry tree]

They letting 2 battalions division garrisoning normandy and rome this is so heartwarming😼

[dull oak]

They should have met in Vienna 😢

[copper linden]

can somone send a pic of what a space marine template looks like?

[tawdry tree]

Should I end my gameplay here even tho i didnt cap the soviet or allies

[deep solstice]

They would rub mustaches

[tawdry tree]

Im genuinely fried

[deep solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-clapping-impressed-flight-giftok-gif-17100133105947638972

Hitler and Stalin rubbing mustaches at the signing of the Molotov Ribbentrop before Germany decided it was time to get mad again

[ripe slate]

Any armor in an infantry div

[whole matrix]

What if Hitler failed art school

[tawdry tree]

Also sb give me a way to balkanize the soviet like tno or when they collapse like in tfr

I want the reichkomissariat😭

[whole matrix]

Germany would won, if they hired Klaus Schwab

[dull oak]

Germany would win ussr 1v1

[molten forge]

lowk anyone has all dlcs, i wanna try a nation if they alright with that

[silk furnace]

especially in vanilla hoi4

[dull oak]

Ppl buy dlcs?

[molten forge]

yea some are psycho enough to

[silk furnace]

idk

[dull oak]

But never buying

[molten forge]

i know, 5 bucks a month

[dull oak]

It's too pricey

[molten forge]

but am a cheapskate

[dull oak]

Same

[molten forge]

and i also am bored of singleplayer

[safe wing]

I ain’t Buying anymore hoi4 DLCs because im bored of hoi4, I will buy Medivial 3 only if its good which it looks decent

[dull oak]

I'm never buying a dlc

[safe wing]

Still ca could fumble

[dull oak]

Nor the game rly

[whole matrix]

I have crazy scenario

[safe wing]

Medieval 3 is a game

[whole matrix]

What if Germany lost ww2

[safe wing]

And its probably going to be better than hoi4

[dull oak]

Germany was our last savior

[safe wing]

Yeah because the Germans totally weren’t hypocritical on getting rid of the Slavs that they allied with Bulgaria and Romania

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wait-youre-serious-let-me-laugh-frowning-robot-gif-14586647

[quiet vessel]

this must be ragebait

[safe wing]

No he just likes Germany and not the Holy Roman Empire which was peak Germany

[dull oak]

Both are peak

[quasi osprey]

no one will hurt polska ever again

[dull oak]

Dutchland ❤️

[quiet vessel]

i thought it was deustchland

[dull oak]

Yes

[quiet vessel]

unless you're talking about the netherlands

[dull oak]

I can't spell

[quasi osprey]

10%?

[safe wing]

This is a slippery slope of a convo

[surreal igloo]

pops living on straight scraps and crumbs 🙏

[quasi osprey]

💀

[quasi osprey]

at least I can build a lot of anti air on what was supposed to be used for clothes and food😇

[surreal igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-flandre-bullet-hell-danmaku-beautiful-gif-20350364

average russian bomber entering airzone

is this mp or singleplayer?

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/winged-hussars-gif-5878084

[surreal igloo]

im seeing some unusual german borders

did u deny danzig?

not a REAL poland fan 😔

[quasi osprey]

😩 I did this path simply because I can get a lot of cores

[safe wing]

Real polish borders

[restive sable]

bulgaria was always distrustful of the germans because of this fact

and romania isnt slavic

[safe wing]

No shit

[surreal igloo]

real men finish to this picture ong (joke)

[restive sable]

this is actually what happened in real life they just dont teach you this

[safe wing]

The Polish hyperspace empire

Everyone knows that

[quiet yacht]

Poor bulgaria, tried two times to avenge the defeat in the second balkan wars only to lose again

[safe wing]

Kingdom of Pontus:

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[quiet yacht]

But after the defeat in 1945 it gained territory if I remember well

[restive sable]

southern dobruja yes

[versed fox]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/game-automation.1925415/

[quasi osprey]

Oil!!

[quaint moon]

politics isn’t a dichotomy between zionism and national socialism

[grizzled zenith]

Yaaay

That's my first game as Japan ever

[dull oak]

Really?

[safe wing]

Funny that the other extreme (tankies) think it’s communism vs anti communism

Fascism or capitalism or whatever they call it

[quiet yacht]

Especially their own comrades "too soft"

[wide osprey]

politics is not allowed here fellas 🙂

[safe wing]

The tankies at my uni were reviled by the democratic socialists btw and for good reasons

The febuary revolution was the biggest what if moment in human history

[quiet vessel]

this dude is trying so goddamn hard to make people angry💔😭

[quiet yacht]

I hope is just a troll

[quaint moon]

“271k” ahh

[safe wing]

And it’s a shame it failed and got couped in October

[quiet vessel]

cant believe people believe that

we all bleed the same blood in the end

why we hating lad

[quiet vessel]

it must be

[quiet yacht]

In my country revisionism was a big problem not so much time ago

[quaint moon]

it is very feasible that it’s not

[lethal ether]

this isnt a politics server so politely stfu

[quiet vessel]

then i worry for their intelligence

[quaint moon]

there are an astounding number of people
that fall for that bs

[quiet vessel]

i'm happy there's a collective hatred for their views here

lets leave that in the past please

[quiet vessel]

why is my bro being silenced😭😭

[lethal ether]

also, for your own benefit, watch less tiktok please and do research before believing something

[safe wing]

Count my Greek fire thrower in to torch some Neo Nazis

[quiet vessel]

you really expect them to put in that much effort💔🙏

notice how they've gone silent now btw🥹🥹

[quaint moon]

they’re too awaken to defend their beliefs

[safe wing]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Yl3bArP1BtI?si=JuWdSwGaKm4jH8DC
Changing the subject Best unit in Medieval 2 am I right?

[dull oak]

False

[true oar]

how do so many people have all the dlcs like its normal

[dull oak]

I'm a not enough guy

[true oar]

its like 300$ for all the dlcs

wtf

[dull oak]

Sailors

Ez

[quiet yacht]

All except the last

[dull oak]

I have them all

[quaint moon]

nah

[lapis snow]

some of us bought them as they came out over the past 9 years

[dull oak]

Son

[quaint moon]

you can buy them third party for cheaper than even on sale

[safe wing]

One time I flanked the Hungarians with these guys and they got so many kills that the vultures had cooked Hungarian for the night

[dull oak]

No I'm not

[quaint moon]

if you have a steam family with someone else that plays you can also just dlc stack

[true oar]

https://tenor.com/view/shai-pops-thumb-point-shai-gilgeous-alexander-gif-15757092386831851106

[lapis snow]

these guys on a bridge defence is just cheating

[quiet vessel]

yikess

[safe wing]

I’m playing a mod that adds the kingdoms units and factions to the vanilla map (except the Mayans and Apache due to limits)

[dull oak]

I don't have tiktok

[lament dirge]

Guys is this good for my first Germany run after learning most required systems?

[true oar]

this is ridiculous tho

30$ for like 2 focus tree expansions

hn

😭

[dull oak]

Who even buys dlcs

Let alone the game

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/the-darth-side-of-the-force-is-a-pathway-to-many-abilities-gif-21623328

The dark side of the force is this

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[lament dirge]

Noo i will have nightmare 😭😭😭

[quiet vessel]

trigger warning please

[lethal ether]

cant he get banned for saying that though,,,

[quiet vessel]

probably

[quaint moon]

yeah that’s not any better

[safe wing]

I already reported him to the paradox bot

Now we wait

[lethal ether]

i blocked that bot

[quaint moon]

actually it’s worse

[lethal ether]

oops

[restive sable]

people will do anything to be edgy these days

[trim pike]

[quaint moon]

nuke him

[restive sable]

[lethal ether]

🥁 🥁 🥁

[quiet vessel]

if i ask paradox nicely will i get early access to every upcoming DLC

[lethal ether]

yes but you gotta pay a bit for it and wait a few months

and theyll give it to u

[quiet vessel]

thats smart

[quaint moon]

i wish paradox would update old focus trees

[quiet vessel]

wait

wait a minute

[quaint moon]

for ancient dlcs that are integrated into the game adding a new dlc is ok

[lethal ether]

[quiet vessel]

bro havent u downloaded la resistance 2 electric francaloo🙏🥹

[pulsar saffron]

guys does denmark surrender if you arent germany

ive seen it surrender for other people

[quaint moon]

the french tree is like half the size as the average minor tree

[trim pike]

Hes gone

[pulsar saffron]

but i tested and it didnt surrender for me as commie china

[quiet yacht]

Especially france

[lethal ether]

🥳

[opal nymph]

Easy

[safe wing]

Good riddance

[split bane]

I think its either you border them or you're a major idk

[snow rain]

as long as it's a major they're fighting they can use the decision

[dusky burrow]

yes

[mighty gull]

Are there any mods that improve the Mittel Afrika path for congo

[tiny iris]

Those who say that speedy tanks doesn't amtter, is not an MP player like me.

AKA, the superior player.

Look at all these SP players.

It feels good to be the best in the room.

[quaint moon]

the MP meta is heavy tds that barely go 4km/h

[dusky burrow]

^

[mellow nimbus]

bro non historical is weird af

I was hungarh

I declared war on the axis

to get war participation

then I saw the allies declared on the soviets

so I did it to get Slovakia

and then the British declared on me

[quaint moon]

after modifiers extra speed doesn’t matter that much, and you have to make big sacrifices to get it

[whole matrix]

I remember I carried allies as Italy

And then Britain kicking me out of allianxe

And declaring war on me

[grizzled yarrow]

Yo guys

Any way i can distract the brits from 1 single port so i can paratroop?

[pulsar saffron]

i was a major tho i did the focus to make a faction

[fossil rose]

Poor Switzerland, what did they do to deserve being gobbled up

[pulsar saffron]

another question

[fossil lava]

jemand deutsch hier

[pulsar saffron]

as commie china i joined the war against japan but didnt join united front, sniped all this coastal land that technically belongs to chiang kai shek, is there any way of keeping it after capping japan

other than killing chiang

[grizzled yarrow]

?

[pulsar saffron]

paradrop somewhere else

or naval invade

make a template with only 1 paratrooper so you can sacrifice him

[grizzled yarrow]

I tried every single dang port

[pulsar saffron]

no just do anywhere in the middle of britain

theyll panic and move stuff around

and might leave a port open

for the real invasion

your sacrificial guy will die, but it will be worth it

[grizzled yarrow]

So put troops in the middle then spam every single port?

[pulsar saffron]

pretty much

[grizzled yarrow]

Epi

France is alr done for

(i still have basic mediums)

[drowsy lichen]

Anybody who wants to join an hist game?

[grizzled yarrow]

Hope i can cap the brits cuz im running out of mp and got 0 war support

[rare fable]

@prime lotus can I join

[clear oyster]

Is a Technocratic Soviet Union possible?

[rare fable]

@candid python what's id

[grizzled yarrow]

Wdym technocratic

[clear oyster]

Rule by experts

[grizzled yarrow]

Dont think so

Never rlly thought of it

[prime lotus]

what

[pulsar saffron]

i just realise if i kill japan in early 40 they will never attack philippines

and usa will never join allies

china will grow larger

[celest zenith]

Wow so with this new Czechoslavakia DLC Germany can get the tank refurbishment MIO with crazy production bonuses just like USSR by doing the seize czech industry focus

[grizzled yarrow]

Yuh

Even if they declare on the us

If germany isnt at war with the allies i dont think the us will join the allies

[fair compass]

why is he hitting the.

[grizzled yarrow]

Ok so

Late game uk might be impossible to land on with paratroopers

[fair compass]

it's already impossible for me to land on the UK mid-game aka 1940.. 💔

[grizzled yarrow]

I mean its still doable

But im in 1945

[fair compass]

yeah but i just suck at it cuz my army just instantly dies due to the fact the UK has like

3 defending divs

on each side

and this server ong just mocks me cuz of it

[grizzled yarrow]

Its not about divs

Uk has anti air on theyr cos

Coast

Which shreds ur paratroopers before they even land making em weak

[quaint moon]

bomb their AA

or just naval invade

[grizzled yarrow]

No bombers + no navy commanders cuz they all got purged

And i dont do navy sob

[quaint moon]

don’t need commanders for supremacy

[quaint moon]

it might be time to start making some then

[grizzled yarrow]

I need another 2 or 3 years to defeat the royal navy

[quaint moon]

you don’t technically need to defeat it

[grizzled yarrow]

Then?

[quaint moon]

your best shot is to get all of your subs, split them into a bunch of 1 unit groups, patrol them in the given sea zone, wait for it to engage the UK navy and then put your actual fleet up

put your subs on always engage and your main fleet on low risk or whatever it is

if you have any navs or nav capable cas put that up as well

as long as the UK isn’t patrolling a massive fleet in that given zone at that given time the subs should buy you time

[grizzled yarrow]

Hm

[quaint moon]

otherwise bombers

[grizzled yarrow]

How effective are naval bombers

[quaint moon]

they’re great

not as good as from carriers but great

[grizzled yarrow]

Il add that to the things i will do in my next run

[quaint moon]

as soviets?

[grizzled yarrow]

Mhm

Well

[quaint moon]

ehh

[grizzled yarrow]

Not rlly soviets but ye

This run is democratic russia

[quaint moon]

modded?

[grizzled yarrow]

Js a mod that adds democratic path for soviets

I got all of europe under my faction tho

[fair compass]

whats like

best path to go

as greece

[grizzled yarrow]

Byzantine

[fair compass]

oh so the compromise with the monarchists path?

[grizzled yarrow]

Uhhh

[fair compass]

shit now i went right to rule 💀

[grizzled yarrow]

No

Fascist parh

Is the byzantine

[grizzled yarrow]

Thats like

One of if not the worst greek path

[fair compass]

i didnt know that

[grizzled yarrow]

Its fine

Thats how we all are when playing a new countru

[fair compass]

250 PP..

just to befriend the monarchists which i need to do to go down "Compromise with the Monarchists"

[dusky burrow]

if you go down to compromise with the monarchists, just crush the monarchists and then they get befriended by focus

[fair compass]

oh

now i made the mistake of befriending them

[fading cairn]

What are the best then

[fair compass]

i just realized

i barely got shit

at the start

[fading cairn]

Byzantine is def the best path

The left one

[dry rain]

https://medal.tv/games/hearts-of-iron-iv/clips/mNPXUIdLeDUjpZ29E?invite=cr-MSw4N3EsMzg4NDYyNDg5

avg unhistorical

[safe wing]

It’s not a true Byzantine path

It’s a larper path at best

But it’s the closet thing to the Byzantine empire in hoi4

[twilit snow]

created the courland pocket reversed and 42 years early

[fair compass]

paradox missed the chance of adding albania to battle for the bosporus 🥀 (even if it isnt on the bosporus)

[safe wing]

@fair compass the last Byzantine dynasty survived until the 1500s in Italy

They were the rules of Monofratte

Which is part of the Piedmont area in hoi4

[fair compass]

i uh did not really require a history lesson-

[safe wing]

Sorry just like learning about the Byzantine Empire

[fair compass]

oh great italy is going historical

this is gonna be fun

[blazing raptor]

YES, AS A NEWBIE I FINALLY DEFEATED COMMUNIST SPAIN

WITHOUT EVEN CHEATING

can someone call me not a newbie anymore

😭

[twilit snow]

newbie your way behind

[blazing raptor]

wyn

wym

[twilit snow]

ive won the Spanish civil war in under a year

as Republican Spain

[blazing raptor]

💀

well i couldnt

so thats progress

right?

[twilit snow]

with no Soviet help

and I’m activeley about to reach Paris while beating Russia too in rise of nations

[blazing raptor]

...

uhhh

ok

[twilit snow]

and it’s ww1

you are

a novice

at most

[blazing raptor]

😭 🙏

[twilit snow]

and I can’t access

[blazing raptor]

i got almost 40 hours of gameplay lol

[twilit snow]

and I can’t access half of the damn Russian industry I took because of uprisings
And I’m STILL winning

[twilit snow]

and I have 300+ hours

[blazing raptor]

😭

im being bullied

lol

[twilit snow]

try playing a successful game of Germany

then come back

ok anyhow

[blazing raptor]

uhh

1 sec

e

just answered your question

or

QUEST

[twilit snow]

how in the ever living

FUNNNHK

[blazing raptor]

yep

u lost

uehehehehe

[twilit snow]

no no no

HOW IN THE EVER LIVING FUNNHK

will that prove your good

[blazing raptor]

um

[twilit snow]

what date did you start in

[blazing raptor]

i think 1939

[twilit snow]

ITS NOT LEGIT THEN

[blazing raptor]

WYM

💔

[twilit snow]

TRY 1936

[blazing raptor]

thas ez

[twilit snow]

AND WIN

[blazing raptor]

.

[snow rain]

1939 is not balanced at all
there's a lot wrong with it

[blazing raptor]

uh

[blazing raptor]

oh

[snow rain]

but it's fine if you just want quick war

[blazing raptor]

i mean yeah thats what i wanted

[twilit snow]

theres some cases where Germany starts causing havoc within 5 years
and some cases where they can’t even get across Benelux
and some cases where the Soviets capture Berlin in 1941

[quiet vessel]

the only time i played 1939 was when i just started the game

not touched it since

[fair compass]

why is ethiopia in the axis

[snow rain]

ger accepted their exile

[fair compass]

they can do that..?

[quaint moon]

govt in exile to likely either sweden or japan

[quaint moon]

if italy is slow on ethiopia they will

[snow rain]

if ethiopia asks them, yes
they never accept in historical unless you did some massive change that outbalance their AI preferences

[fair compass]

i didnt change anything about their ai

its all random rn

[snow rain]

if historical ai is turned off it's random

[grave sonnet]

They just need Italy to join

[fair compass]

🍿

WHAT´

oh my god im in an forever war now

BRO

💀

[lethal ether]

thats whats fun, playing soviets or china or even poland and trying to do something in the little time that you have

[fair compass]

omfg..

i guess bro

everyones agaisnt me this game

[snow rain]

bruh

[fair compass]

WHAT AM I GONNA DO ATP 😭

frnace is clearly losing cuz they lost syria

and i barely have men

or a navy

cuz i dont know how to balance researching navy, air, industry and more at the same time

with 3 goddamn slots

3

[pine finch]

dooes Esclation 84 require the original EaW? i just want to test the Esclation 84 scenario

[pine finch]

don't worry if you hold enough allies AIs dump half their army in your land, they mosly do in historical

oh wait you are bulgaria

then you are cooked

[fair compass]

no im greece

tf u on about sum "Oh wait your bulgaria"

you do NOT see a greens tar on sofia

[pine finch]

i mean, why bulgarian divisions are green then?

[fair compass]

why are albanians divisions purple then?

[pine finch]

😭

am i loosing braincells?

[fair compass]

prob, but i enabled like

coloring between divs

soo

foreign nations have divs with their color code or sum

and cuz bulgaria is

green

they got green colored divs

[pine finch]

never see someone use that option tbh

if i was in your case, i would build forts in central greece, if you can't hold front line.

and at least in historical allies dump a lot of division on greece, specialy when they are loosing, and if it happens you may hold

[fair compass]

aand francej ust lost syria

omg

im cooked

[pine finch]

the only problem is early game USSR is very strong because of a lot of division

early game USSR can defeat germany on its soil actually

[pine finch]

you maybe not

i have seen times when AI doesn't care about their colonies

once AI placed no divs on egypt

[fair compass]

france asked to move through my land

[pine finch]

and lost the entire egypt

[fair compass]

but i havent

seen

a single

FRENCH DIV

ON MY SOIL ONCE

WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE FRANCE

YOU LYING PRICK

LEON BLUM

YOU LIAR

and hes fumbling in the rhineland

💀

[pine finch]

AI asks for random permisions when you have same enemy with it

[fair compass]

a second ago he was winning

now hes losing

my greece run actually sucks dude

the axis are like a super faction

cuz they got

[pine finch]

once i was japan asked me for naval acces when i was iran

[fair compass]

3 GODDAMN MAJORS

the SSR started in archangalsk so i dont expect them to win and somehow fight the japanese, romanians and turks

[pine finch]

classic early game france

takes a few parts of german land, then gets stuck

@fair compass let me guess, you played non-historical greece to avoid italian invasion, right?

[fair compass]

alr im winning

[fair compass]

well issue is

italy is going historical

but they fumbled heavily in ethiopia

so now ethiopia

is in the axis

[pine finch]

you could have choose the path they go through game settings

like you can choose for them to go commie and the AI goes commie

[fair compass]

why is it that the

majors on my side

are always idiots

but when its the enemy

they become einsteins heir

im

gonna goddamn crash out

ITALY HAS NOW JOINED THE AXIS AND I HAVE NO TROOPS TO DEFEND MYSELF

WITH

welp i only have 1 answer to finish this gmae

and thats to quit

[quiet vessel]

to love is to let go

[tame frigate]

hot damn...

[pine finch]

dooes Esclation 84 require the original EaW? i just want to test the Esclation 84 scenario

[pine finch]

weakest late game army

[snow rain]

look at the workshop page description, it'll probably have the answer

[pine finch]

thanks

[fair compass]

france at any moment germany invades ig??

[prisma steppe]

i would say belgium is more accurate, as the french always lose, so the image is inaccurate

[fair compass]

its a french man dead on the ground, im pretty sure france always losing makes the image accurate..

[prisma steppe]

the french lose in every single way, the belgians only lose if you actually invade their mainland

[fair compass]

o

[prisma steppe]

O ... ?

[ripe slate]

Did you ever hear of Napoleon

[fair compass]

which one.. 👀

theres alot

[craggy trail]

Empoleon

[fair compass]

if your talking about the

first french emperor

then yes i did hear of him

im a nerd when it comes to his campaigns