hoi4-general

[lost tide]

Hoi4 has an uber steep learning curve, be grateful that you dont touch BICE at least

[pine shale]

are u stupid

[prisma steppe]

even then non meta divs, if done correctly are good

[prisma steppe]

are you?

[lost tide]

what is your infantry template

I can figure out how good you are at the game just by looking at your infantry template

[prisma steppe]

bice isnt overly difficult, just frustraiting and micro intensive

[quasi osprey]

🤦

[lost tide]

Bruh I had to handle barb + ensure the completion of the five year plan as the Soviets

shit was agony+

[grizzled yarrow]

now only the axis and allies remain

[prisma steppe]

ok i must admit soviets are something else

did it with 6 people coop against bice difficulty max buffed germany

it was cancer

[winged field]

bro had one job 😭

and they did it the opposite way

[lost tide]

Atrocious division, add an engineering company + field hospital company, you lack infinite manpower as germany, round it to 20 width as well

[prisma steppe]

we got rolled in 1 year

[pine shale]

nope idiot

[cinder parrot]

sabaton owns 2 tanks with working cannons

[pine shale]

sweatlord

[prisma steppe]

manpower is a non issue as mjors

[lost tide]

I dont touch MP

I am not a lord of unemployment, get good at the game

[lost tide]

France, UK, germany, italy suffer from manpower issues

[winged field]

thats just a terrible advice

[prisma steppe]

@pine shale go back to valorant if hoi is too hard for you

[quasi osprey]

I am pretty sure greece will also soon go communist and leave the faction

[prisma steppe]

italy gets insane manpower buffs, the hell you talking about

[snow rain]

I know, but doesn't change the fact that signal isn't worth taking a slot for

[lost tide]

oh cmon field hospital is necessary

[winged field]

for large div

not 20w

[prisma steppe]

vanilla? browski you see i am playin modded, i have 12 support slots

[winged field]

u want hospitals on big divs bcs it scales better

[lost tide]

Germany's manpower pool is low, you have to ensure your men are properly taken care of

[pine shale]

nope i just hate divison designing its not fun

[winged field]

engineers are not necessary either

[lost tide]

I can hand you some templates if ya like

[prisma steppe]

so what do you actually like?

[lost tide]

??????

[pine shale]

war

[quasi osprey]

already 5 factions in europe

[pine shale]

ok

[lost tide]

?????

[prisma steppe]

what? wtf

[winged field]

waste of ic

[prisma steppe]

is browski ragebaiting?

[lost tide]

engineers are compulsory unless you are a tank division and even then, armored engineer or assault engineer companies are still very good

[winged field]

@snow rain I summon you

[prisma steppe]

the only time its waste of ic is if you spam 2 widths

[lost tide]

engineers, support aa and support arti are always compulsory on most infantry divs

[quasi osprey]

Italy had one job..

[lost tide]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=latam&id=2141885565

here we go

[pine shale]

why does it give me air wings with no mission alert

[lost tide]

🥀 Cus they have nothing to do

Bro is you serious rn

and you havent even trained your airplanes

[pine shale]

can u give me those templates

[lost tide]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=latam&id=2141885565
Here

[prisma steppe]

just go to #ask-for-help-here channel, those browskis may have nervs to deal with thou

[pine shale]

i aint reading allat

[prisma steppe]

then you getting no fun and good divs

[lost tide]

Sincerely praying on your downfall

Lmao at this rate you are never mastering navy

[winged field]

line artillery 😭

[pine shale]

bro im not reading 500 pages

[winged field]

dont use that

[prisma steppe]

just as i said he larping as germany, greatest larper hoi4 has ever seen

[snow rain]

they're not necessary

[lost tide]

Dumbass cant even larp properly, using light spg's and what not

[winged field]

@prisma steppe see?

[prisma steppe]

the larp i am refering to is having no idea of how to wage war

[lost tide]

in my france run I used spgs, TDs and Meds for my medium tanks

[snow rain]

on a small 9inf support arty and aa div, engis represent 20% of the total div cost for buffs you don't need since this div will just defend and move

[lost tide]

I still manhandled germany

[snow rain]

for coast garrisons it's more worth it

in singleplayer with only 9inf batallions you'll rarely need the extra defense

[lost tide]

Garrison def needs engi + AA to shoot down CAS and what not + entrench themselves properly

[winged field]

aw hell nah

[snow rain]

they don't need engi in singleplayer
it's a plus but it's not required

[prisma steppe]

i mean it can be used for early yolo division

[raven widget]

is it better to use medium tanks or heavy tanks as USSR?

[winged field]

now thats a ragebait

[prisma steppe]

a yolo div mustnt be good, just fast

[lost tide]

he uses motorized
In my existence of playing hoi4 for 2.8k+ hours I have NEVER EVER touched rocket arti or motorized rocket arti for the fact....

[lost tide]

Meds if u want to be basic, heavies if you dont want to import tungsten at ruinous prices

[winged field]

bro where did u pull this guide from

[lost tide]

Wtf is this template

[pine shale]

template hater

[winged field]

the link u sent

[pine shale]

template worst mechanic in hoi4

[raven widget]

thank you, any sense to make them both??

[lost tide]

Wtf? No

[lost tide]

Boi tf did I send, lemme see

[winged field]

#hoi4-general message

[lost tide]

Holy shit it is awful

[winged field]

Maybe u missclicked

I hope so

[lost tide]

Nvm scrap the whole guide

My ahh just relies on intuition atp to design divs

[prisma steppe]

its made specificly for scoofy to make him rage

[winged field]

the only valid reason for it

and he is not reading it xD

[prisma steppe]

denmark got the truest name it ever had

[snow rain]

not this shitty guide again 😭

[lost tide]

Relied on it for three years now, a tragedy to see it become outdated

But it is nice to have outgrown such guides

[snow rain]

it was outdated when it came out 😭

it was and still is abysmal dogshit on most of it

[winged field]

general rule of thumb, any guide that is older than a month or two is outdated to some degree

[snow rain]

using fuel drums, maintenance on tanks, no flame tank whatsoever even for attack inf, all 18w sf templates etc

[winged field]

and reddit is no go always

[snow rain]

advising TD and high velocity use in sp too

[lapis snow]

the hoi4 sub is just there to demoralise people istg

[snow rain]

there are a few good players out there but I spend my time explaining why line arty isn't meta and how the AI works
also keep fighting with people that are adamant that the AI cheats by magically spawning divs out of thin air

[prisma steppe]

'40 heavy fighter lookin juicy

[lapis snow]

Done it a few times, exhausting work

[raven widget]

Are armor battalions with infantry banned in MP? I know that putting one armor battalion is OP, but making it 50/50??

[snow rain]

generally yes they are

[prisma steppe]

i just use line arty and stuff cause i like to larp

metamaxxing doing it every game is not fun in the long term

[snow rain]

larp is fine, line arty is fine, playing as you like is fine
what isn't fine is telling people it's the best

[prisma steppe]

line arty and best? hahaha

[snow rain]

if only you knew ...

[prisma steppe]

nah thats a good one

[raven widget]

are they good? i lived under the impressions onyl the light fighter and light CAS are the best

[snow rain]

the number of players that call themselves experts but aren't capable to name what each stat does in a div is horrific

[lapis snow]

183 ic is eye-watering

[prisma steppe]

heavy fighters are decent, mostly cause you can have more late game, as they have lots more range

[winged field]

Tbh if someone is watching tommykay I wouldnt be suprised if they defend line arty

[mighty holly]

is it out?

[prisma steppe]

183 ic is nothin

try 850+

[lapis snow]

yes, it is actually June 11th right now

[prisma steppe]

wtf is that pfp

[paper echo]

epic france bully moment

[mighty holly]

swear it was may 22, ignore me 🥹

[steel zephyr]

hoping for 30m of hell...

[prisma steppe]

this rocket arty would actually be goodish no?

[snow rain]

depends on the mod

the cost is horrendous for vanilla and it has less stats than a SPG that would cost half the price and 30% less combat width

[prisma steppe]

yeah to be fair its like '52 tech, but the mod adds doctrines specificly for rocket arty

also its base stats, it get like 75% better just trough research

[snow rain]

I hope it's not like the vanilla one that only adds useless org

[steel zephyr]

might actually get that achievement...

[terse skiff]

Doesn't spg also get research and doctrine buffs?

[prisma steppe]

yeah them too, but not such extreme ones as the rocket arty

[terse skiff]

You'll have to compare that yourself

Katyushas have much less hardness and much more cost/width

[snow rain]

and less brk

[restive spear]

this took quite a while,but i finally did it

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/young-pope

[dusky burrow]

Congrats

[winged field]

popelander in action

[dusky burrow]

Huh interesting

[restive spear]

idk what formable to do next

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-türk-turkish-gif-6286375903915692212

[winged field]

non aligned european union

cool flag

kinda easy

[restive spear]

B

[safe wing]

Flag looks like the Galactic empire

[prisma steppe]

nvm its like +180% trough tech

[winged field]

last episode be like:

[winged field]

sick yeah

[safe wing]

The German empire shall be reorganized into the European empire

[winged field]

I did it as austria hungary cuz I didnt even know you can do it

[safe wing]

-Wilhelm II in the reichstag

1945

(Ik he died in 1941 im just doing Star Wars references)

[fair compass]

this a good paratroop´?

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow

[pine shale]

how do i fix reistance?

[safe wing]

Baldwin when he gets the return of the kaiser event

[prisma steppe]

i wish there was an option to hide completed focus branches

[safe wing]

Yk that’s not a bad idea

[prisma steppe]

yeah ts is not balanced

[paper echo]

omw to liberate the world from oppressive regimes

[stoic torrent]

its normal that japan has generic leader in ncns???

[prisma steppe]

its '41 btw

[viscid mason]

make more inf equip for your garrisons

[prisma steppe]

what

👀

[mild vapor]

is anyone doing mp

[fair compass]

i turned on historical AI why did the czechs do this bruh

i dont remember the czechs doing tha thistorically

[prisma steppe]

what year is it, and do you have any mods`?

[fair compass]

only fps map, and its 1938

[proper ridge]

aint you playing as czechia

[prisma steppe]

just unlucky i guess, the new dlc is kinda broken

[prisma steppe]

? you clearly see on what side the divs are do you?

[proper ridge]

listen bro idk how to play hoi4 😭

[fair compass]

no im playing germany

[fair compass]

meh i solved it anyway by doing the fate of czechoslovakia focus

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/zoeken-wat-google-google-search-gif-10178854

Use the internet to learn to play hoi4

[prisma steppe]

👀

[safe wing]

This is a reference to the old movie 2001 space odyssey

[fair compass]

i failed to paradrop france bruh

[safe wing]

That thing is responsible for the development of humanity

[vapid cradle]

what are some most fun nations or paths do yall recommend

[fair compass]

BRO WHAT??

HUH???

WHAT??

[safe wing]

Kaiserredux soc dem Napoelon

[vapid cradle]

vanilla game

[safe wing]

Poland Romania monarchy path

[vapid cradle]

is japan fun

[winged field]

naval invasions exist

[fair compass]

no like

why is france

naval invading

WESTERN POLAND

im seeing my paratroopers get destroyed cuz the brits got troops on all their cities

this sucks

[winged field]

french are weird

they eat snails

[untold cove]

top 5 reasons why line artillery is the best battalion

1. its line
2. its artillery (lots of soft attack)
3. its line artillery
4. lithuania uses it
5. its artillery

[safe wing]

you know who else uses line artillery

[winged field]

napoleon approved

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[untold cove]

muscle man's mom is a artillery commander

+%10 artillery soft attack

[prisma steppe]

i will cleanse the nether from facism

[winged field]

all fun till bosnian artillery shows up

[untold cove]

ARTILLERIJA

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-day-earth-explode-asteroid-meteor-gif-12246672

[fair compass]

how can

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/artillery-howitzer-bosnia-balkans-military-gif-11122984703738052219

[fair compass]

everyone paratroop britain

but when i try it

they get decimated by smth called ai being on every goddamn city

[prisma steppe]

mmm balanced

[fair compass]

I WAS HALF CAP ON BRITAIN

AND NOW IM AT 80 CUZ THEY RECLAIMED

[safe wing]

@prisma steppe @untold cove Japan if the USA used Caseoh instead of nukes

[fair compass]

or 20

idfk

how cap works

[untold cove]

caseoh was not developed back then

manhattan project was trying to mass manufacture caseoh

[fair compass]

britain is sucha pain in my ass right now

[untold cove]

instead they invented nukes

[prisma steppe]

the viet-min stand no chance

[safe wing]

William Afton and Henry Emily if they were smarter

while kill kids to harvest remnant instead of adult enemy soldiers and the US goverment will pay you to do it

[untold cove]

IS THAT A FNAF REFERENCE???

[safe wing]

"deploying Freddy Fazbear"

[untold cove]

is that the bite of 67

oh no

i have done it again

[safe wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iMY1EXpwG0

My Grandad fought with Gabe in Nam

[untold cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHpyWWK7LHk he was also sighted around kabul

[safe wing]

said he was a young man turned into a monster

[untold cove]

fred fazbear or your grandad?

[safe wing]

no but he knew him

[vapid cradle]

is romania fun

[untold cove]

they used to call him fred

[safe wing]

his real name is Gabriel

[untold cove]

now they call him freddy fazbear

[prisma steppe]

👀

[safe wing]

he was injured badly in Korea and they made him a cyborg to live

[winged field]

no

[vapid cradle]

then what is

[safe wing]

they say he was so badly damaged he became a different person and took the name Freddy Fazbear

[fair compass]

omg

[winged field]

hungary

[fair compass]

the brits are stationing

MARINES in london

im unable to paratroop london because of that goddamn garrison

[lapis onyx]

Question with the new subdoctrine stuff how broken is calvary hungary now

[untold cove]

robocop ripped their story off of freddy fazbear

[prisma steppe]

👀 i love this mod

[fair compass]

why does the UK have so much goddamn troops in their MAINLAND

im just trying to paratroop in there

[untold cove]

they pull out forces out of colonies

[lapis onyx]

Question whats the general paratrooper template iirc you keep it small ye?

[winged field]

more broken than poland

that says something

[fair compass]

one.

[lapis onyx]

This should be illegal tbh

[safe wing]

yup he wasn't the only one too
Susie became Chica
Jeremy, Bonnie
Fritz, Foxy
Cassidy, Golden Freddy
and their CO Charlie Emily, the Marionette

all were badly injured in the Korean war

[untold cove]

the korean war or the nam'

[lapis onyx]

I guess most people use paras as just tiny units to just back cap

[safe wing]

the korean war as they had to be put back together and were deployed for the first time in Vietnam

[untold cove]

I AM A GODDAMN ONION MASON

[fair compass]

im just tryna cap the UK 😭

before they become a pain in my back and naval invade italy..

[lapis onyx]

Couldnt have been worst than when i was trying to cap usa as brit

[safe wing]

I AM A GODDAMN ONION CHARLOTTE - Freddy Fazbear 1969

[untold cove]

YOU CANT PEEL ME

[lapis onyx]

Eastern front was hell

[fair compass]

i think this is enough paratroopers

[lapis onyx]

The center waseasier to push with tanks

But still

[fair compass]

ahem

this

should be good

i forgot to

crop that part in

[lapis onyx]

I use para troopers to create encirclements and paradrop supplies in via transport

Esp whej the ai is being... frustrating

That reminds me i need to create my over run light tanks again

Also just a fore mention but bigger divs get less xp on combat ye?

Also trying to train up new generals is a pain in my butt

On my greece game im trying to train up a few mountaineer generals and i just have to swap my divs to force turkey to attack

[winged field]

kinda the opposite

cuz bigger divs have more hp

so they have less casualties and retain more xp

[fair compass]

this is just

making me depressed bruh

what do i even do atp

britain will just

spam me with its

100 billion troops

WITHIN THE MAINLAND

if i try to paratroop them

[manic fern]

might have to just port and flood the isles with units

[fair compass]

im not naval invading them

the naval dominance is just cancer

[manic fern]

i mean by para order

[fair compass]

erm

thats what ive been doing

for lik

3 goddamn army groups now

[manic fern]

seems the runs cooked

[fair compass]

im just gonna

go into a stalemate with the brits

[manic fern]

would say cas spam guessing you cant

[prisma steppe]

fym tentacles

[sly venture]

what the hell is going on

[lapis snow]

you do realise paras are just meant to open up the ports so the army can cross right?

[safe wing]

I've seen enough H*ntai to know where this goes

[fair compass]

oh..

no i

didnt know that

[prisma steppe]

azur lane ships aint gonna have a fun time in this timeline

[lapis snow]

every single time paratroopers were used irl was to support the actual invasion by opening up and interdicting the defence. They're not there to actually win on their own

[fair compass]

oh..

[prisma steppe]

👀 hell yeah

[prisma steppe]

thank god the mods here arent on a perpatual power trip as on wot-main dc

i got a warn + mute for 1 day for saying "panther tuah"

[safe wing]

hey Mentally did you see my alt history Byzantine Empire mod idea

[paper echo]

yeah i took a look at that channel

[safe wing]

final focus in the Monarchist path will be called Justinians Dream

[prisma steppe]

nah not good, make one were they kinda play like kx legalaslation cities but more globaliesed

[safe wing]

you get cores on all the former Roman Empire territories

[prisma steppe]

so like treaty ports in most nations, all over the globe

[craggy dove]

what is best cavalry width? (im playing mod in 18th century where no tanks and cavalry is the replacament)

it will go against infantry other cavalry and some arty

[prisma steppe]

2width like 500 times

[safe wing]

I mean at least I tried doing a more intresting take where Empire is gone and replaced with a Republic

like Turkey in OTL

but in true hoi4 fashion you can bring the Monarchy back

though the player can trigger a civil war if he rushes it

[prisma steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3392625270

maybe do a continuation of this but in hoi

[pine shale]

How do you guys not get overwhelmed in after like 1940 it becomes so overwhelming for me

[prisma steppe]

just dont declare war and play world police simulator

[safe wing]

Also Wrangle is alive in my mod and he can be a general for any of the paths bar Communist and he will no longer be avliable if the USSR does Beaten but not defeated

[prisma steppe]

turn down the speed

[untold cove]

secure and hold the ports, then get yo army groups into the mainland

[sudden thistle]

Or pause

[prisma steppe]

just larp as civ5 ghandi

[safe wing]

yes the Byzantines tried helping the Southern Whites in the Russian civil war in the timeline for my mod

I should mention the empire ended when the Monarchy was toppled in 1925 by a coup

[fair compass]

i cant

they got troops

ON THE PORTS

which just

[untold cove]

you have failed the fatherland

[fair compass]

erase my paratroopers

from the planet

[prisma steppe]

i ve got an great idea, maybe we do a collab for this one

[nova tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1148728710434930688/1300170834866081934/1560_incident.GIF

[prisma steppe]

pushing the maginot with no cas or tanks

[nova tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048812523345952819/1312184269115887787/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[prisma steppe]

this all couldve been avoided with 500 2 width gap filler divs

the french werent ready for this austria (between two giants austria, new germany path)

my whole army is this div bcs of that

[grave sonnet]

Franco Prussian war ahh push

[paper echo]

holy production stuff

these are my stockpiles

[prisma steppe]

i had this debuff the whole time?!?!

[tender bay]

Any mods for beginners or people that want to understand the game?

[astral forum]

You know you can compress those modern tank lines into one line so it's not so cluttered, right? With the x5 and x10 options?
What's your factories sitting at?

[prisma steppe]

my other game, as the usa till the '50s i had 250% production cap

[paper echo]

i have 150 factories each

they cant go up more

[merry haven]

is there a way to see how many planes you've shot down as a volunteer?

[paper echo]

as a volunteer i dont think so

[prisma steppe]

go to combat log

then enemy lost equipment

[oak mantle]

Uhhhh in my hist game germany killed poland and the uk didnt guarantee it?

[prisma steppe]

maybe world tension wasnt high enough

[oak mantle]

Yeah ik

Its too low quality to even make it out

[prisma steppe]

i aint riskin it

mods hate only one thing only

[oak mantle]

It looks like an X

[prisma steppe]

you forgor to censor the relation with other nation tab

also the ideology icon

[light ledge]

hello

[prisma steppe]

much safer, the mods wont cook you now

[oak mantle]

They might try because of the A.H portrait since its not "vanilla"

[prisma steppe]

nah they only got "hate-boner" against swastikaas

@heavy vigil do thee care if schmitler is in a screenshot?

[oak mantle]

This leader is so tough

[viscid mason]

I don't Casey would care

As long as you dont support said schmitler

[prisma steppe]

what a bowling ball of a head

[oak mantle]

Schmitler was very silly

[prisma steppe]

we ve had a english teacher called schmitler

she was not silly

[oak mantle]

Im guessing youre german cause your name is also Karl

[prisma steppe]

yeah, but my name aint karl, only online-name

[oak mantle]

Oh

Ive only ever seen people called karl be from germany

[prisma steppe]

also i am polish

[rain loom]

DofE exped over, time for more hoi4

[prisma steppe]

i hope they dont use blood as fuel

[atomic grove]

finally

[prisma steppe]

[winged field]

up the raaagh

[untold cove]

195 divisions encirclement is toe tingling

[nova tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-ending-jump-powerless-the-boys-gif-11285210586960291904

[safe wing]

Batman vs Palpatine in a game of competitive hoi4 mp who wins

[untold cove]

palpatine

[untold cove]

batman is incapable of commanding an army

[safe wing]

Most hoi4 players are too though

[untold cove]

if i gave batman a division he would just tell them to stay put and handle the job himself

(he gets mauled to death by a machinegun)

[safe wing]

Me included

[safe wing]

They are playing the game on a computer not irl

[untold cove]

i was not talking about irl

a virtual machine gun

[safe wing]

Ngl fictional characters playing hoi4 skit would be funny

[prisma steppe]

i have a mod that makes large pop amounts cost moneys (consumer goods) thus i go to scraping the barrel and depopulate my country

[safe wing]

Batman as the USA
William Afton as the uk
Palpatine as Germany to name a few

[vapid cradle]

why isnt there a holy roman empire option no more

[safe wing]

Huh?

There is

[light ledge]

hello guys

[vapid cradle]

isnt it supposed to be here

[safe wing]

You just gotta do the Holy Roman Empire focus

[safe wing]

No it’s below the Italian stuff

[vapid cradle]

oh w9

[safe wing]

It pops up there

Yeah

[vapid cradle]

so secret

[safe wing]

You just need Victoria

And the focus will reveal itself

[prisma steppe]

this mod is great, like hell i am research navy

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[manic iris]

most goofy battle ive ever seen

[vapid cradle]

the kaiser didnt die

am i cooked

[astral forum]

Which is that?

[prisma steppe]

you mean mod?

[astral forum]

Yeah

[prisma steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3628341830

[astral forum]

Sick, been tryin to look for more cool mods lately cause RT56/Kaissereich get kinda old after a while, I'll check it out

[prisma steppe]

just a small warning, read the foci carefully, at least at the beginning

[astral forum]

Aight, makes sense

[prisma steppe]

i am importing 80 factories worth of fuel

[wide osprey]

historical germany gameplay 😮

[prisma steppe]

holy freaky

[hollow raptor]

Is selling convoys worth it, like what do you get from them

[prisma steppe]

@winged field the end for azur lanze is nigh

[safe wing]

and Victoria too 😭

[prisma steppe]

nah victoria is the owner of thos super squids

[dusky burrow]

Oh my

[prisma steppe]

@snow rain yeah they are broken

no doctrines also not even maxxed soft attack

[opal nymph]

Which is better?

I'd almost say mountaineers are better

[prisma steppe]

do mechanised shocktroops, they get more buffs overall in rt56

or is this vanilla?

[opal nymph]

I don't think I would be able to afford that in the game I'm planning to do

Oh snap, R56 has mech in 39

Oh, there is only motorized shock troops

no mech shock troops

[prisma steppe]

yeah i meant mot shock troops

but i think you get them with doctrines

[opal nymph]

It could be 12 km/h, but I have rangers slowing it down

[prisma steppe]

the special forces one

[opal nymph]

I already maxxed both special forces doctrines for shock troops and mountaineers

[prisma steppe]

and tech?

[opal nymph]

The mountaineers one buffs the shock troops

[opal nymph]

I just researched 1940 techs

I'm just looking at stuff before I play a game later

[prisma steppe]

👀

[opal nymph]

Holy dockyards batman

[prisma steppe]

polish ai, held the soviet alone for 5 years, sustained 11 million casulties, and eventually joined bri'sh faction to kill the soviets

[winged field]

why?

am I missing something 😭?

[safe wing]

look at the image 💀

[prisma steppe]

and the stats

[craggy dove]

why is my guy in reserves when hes clearly pushing him and from a different size so the combat width cant be the issue surely?

[marble patio]

I finally did it...

it took me so long but I did it... I won the civil war...

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-gif-26742422

[prisma steppe]

highest k/d ive ever had (550k of them were divs i wanted gone due to undeleteability)

[dusky burrow]

Isn't mech shock troops like another upgrade later on?

[opal nymph]

Apparently not

Or at least not with 1940 tech

[maiden bolt]

i think i need more oil

[vapid cradle]

how much more mp do i need for poland to gimme land

[opal nymph]

Hover over the focus requirements

[vapid cradle]

no like for them to agree to it for sure

yk

[opal nymph]

It doesn't matter. If you have to invade, you invade

[atomic grove]

js put ur armies on the border

[vapid cradle]

its already determined? no changing it?

[atomic grove]

and dont be at war

[opal nymph]

unsure

[atomic grove]

and also get higher opinion

[opal nymph]

some decisions are based on game start

[woeful knoll]

improve opinions and put divs on border

im pretty sure that doesnt actually do anything but it will help u feel better

poland rarely denies this though

and assuming your doing this in the correct order they shouldnt be guarentted if they do

[vapid cradle]

existential threat to them, i dont think they fw me

[woeful knoll]

just watch out for soviet also invading them

[vapid cradle]

UK aint guarantiing them

[woeful knoll]

just send the demands

ur fine

[vapid cradle]

uks guaranteeing them

soon as i did the focus

[woeful knoll]

when are you doing this

what year

[vapid cradle]

1938

nob

nov

i mean dec

[woeful knoll]

whats world tension

are u on non hist

[vapid cradle]

22 trension

[vapid cradle]

who plays non hist

[woeful knoll]

what did you do before this to raise it

[woeful knoll]

next time get poland first

[marble patio]

what did bro do

how are you carving up congo

[woeful knoll]

czech is programmed to always accept wtv because historical mode

[marble patio]

germany doesnt even have african colonies 😭

[woeful knoll]

monarchist path germany

you can work with uk and fu ck belgium over

[marble patio]

oh that's the one i'm doing

[woeful knoll]

and just get congo

[vapid cradle]

theres a huge flag and title of german empire thats taking up the other half of the screen

[vapid cradle]

how

uks straihgt up blocking mef rom everything'

congo

[woeful knoll]

carve up the congo?

[vapid cradle]

belghium

france

[woeful knoll]

did they block u

[vapid cradle]

uk

guarantee

i swear uks gonna get it

[woeful knoll]

this is just a bad roll probaly because when the game starts the ai is programmed to say no or yes

[vapid cradle]

lit every country is guaranteed by uk

[woeful knoll]

Just justify on finland to get soviets to go to war with allies + guarentee cost stacking

and then justify on every single 1 state minor country

[indigo pivot]

Hello guys I am new here

[woeful knoll]

and they cant guarentee your actual rivals

[vapid cradle]

lowk a bit too lazy for that

imma slime allies my self

[woeful knoll]

why did all my messages get deleted

is thatj ust me

[woeful knoll]

you fed urself over because u did work with uk path

-25 percent dockyard output

good luck beating uk navy

[vapid cradle]

i tought it was op

for navy

[woeful knoll]

no working with britian gives u -25

now u have to steal everyone elses navy

which is gay

[nimble orbit]

Im trying to attack Ethiopia and clicked the green arrow to start attacking but they wont move

Please help 🙏

[sly sluice]

i think i found a new strategy

like

not just HOI4

but real life aswell

you know how logistics struggle to keep up the pace when you're pushing fast?

[hollow raptor]

My first hou 4 game in a while going good

We are fighting turkey as mandate of Palestine due to UK

We lost 50k true

But killed 70k turks

[sly sluice]

well the strategy im proposing can fix that but at the cost of having less power on the front

[hollow raptor]

We took over their occupied Syria and Lebanon

Soon we'll reach ballistic missiles too

[sly sluice]

a treadmill movement mechanic

where some of your army is on the front

the rest goes back to get supplied

[sly sluice]

then we exchange

[vapid cradle]

my demands got accepted by poland

very nice

[sly sluice]

everytime you run our of supplies

you switch

this only works in offensive fast maneuvers

[vapid cradle]

is ts even optimal

[winged field]

totally

[sly sluice]

do you have dececnt screening capabilities?

[vapid cradle]

deadass tho

[winged field]

shhb are awesome if you can make them

so yeah, but you need schreens too

[vapid cradle]

says till 1943

[winged field]

well thats shhb ic cost for ya

[maiden bolt]

yea idk if i can attack the US now

[vapid cradle]

how do i see

[sly sluice]

building a navy is expensive asf

[winged field]

see what?

[sly sluice]

you can steal the ennemy fleet in peace conference

[vapid cradle]

screens

[sly sluice]

instead

[winged field]

doesnt have to be

with pure dd's builds

[sly sluice]

screens are light cruisers and destroyers

[vapid cradle]

yea im making cruisers

is this better

[sly sluice]

heavy cruisers and battleships are capital ships

screen ship go in front and soak up damage

capital ships stay behind and are meant to hit hard

[safe wing]

Carriers are capitals too

[sly sluice]

yep

[indigo pivot]

I am going to have a HOI4 LAN party with 2 of my friends this afternoon

[sly sluice]

and submarines are kind of different

[indigo pivot]

I’ve played the game for like 30 hours and they’ve played it for 0

[vapid cradle]

looks like i have to fight uk straight on no?

[sly sluice]

are you new and trying to play navy? i assume. since you don't seem to know much about it

[vapid cradle]

im not new

i just do NOT like navy

[indigo pivot]

I am new

[sly sluice]

yeah

new to navy

[indigo pivot]

Me neither

[vapid cradle]

lowk always used paras or stole navys of countries as germany

[sly sluice]

its th emost optimal thing to do tbh. but building a navy as you're stealing other people's navi is heavily recommended

can change the tides by a lot

also

little tip

in naval battles

the first thing to hit

[indigo pivot]

I made a lot of mini submarines

[vapid cradle]

ok poland rejected the further concession

[sly sluice]

are ALWAYS carrier planes

[sly sluice]

convoy raiding doctrine?

also

[indigo pivot]

I forgot

[sly sluice]

why the hell are mines this useless?

[indigo pivot]

I think so

[sly sluice]

like

they never seem to hit anything

even if the ennemy has all of its navy in the region

[indigo pivot]

Probably bcs ur enemies made the tech of scanning them..?

To reduce the prob of hitting

[sly sluice]

yeah prbably but not a single mine hitting in YEARS of naval conflict is really bad. even if they did that

[winged field]

mines dont kill ships

they make ships get more nav accidents

its kinda like

DoT + org hitting

[winter fulcrum]

how does my friend swap his hoi4 version from paradox to steam?

[winged field]

cant

sadly

[sly sluice]

i didn't say mines killin ships

i said mines hitting

[winged field]

oh like actually hittinh?

[sly sluice]

yeah

[winged field]

how many mines u have?

[sly sluice]

1000

or atles i had

[winged field]

ig they have minesweeper ships

[sly sluice]

cause i i am not playing the game in which i did it anymore

[sly sluice]

probably but wouldn't it show mine count decreasing?

[winged field]

hmm

Im trying to think about every possibility

[sly sluice]

i mean

the chances of it happening if there are no clear reasons why would probably be insane ai luck

but that would probably be like one chance out of a million

[winged field]

Ig your mines get replenished but the fact that their taskforce has a minesweeper act like a passive demining along their path

Like if you know what I mean

[vapid cradle]

canon or howitzer for tank

[sly sluice]

that could've been it if i just kept on minelaying

but i stopped when it was at max

[winged field]

mines are weird for sure

[sly sluice]

yeah

[winged field]

I rather just invest in nav bombers

[sly sluice]

really weird

[sly sluice]

we agree on this one😂

but i mean i was kind of playing the usa against britain

so it felt right to make use of it

[winged field]

The larp must prevail

[sly sluice]

i can't even be mad. larp has changed meaning so many times now that i don't even know the meaning of your chat

[winged field]

usually its just classic rp but larp sounds cooler

[sly sluice]

to me larp is like

talking about something like you know it even tho you're just saying trash stuff

[winged field]

isnt that like just bullshitting?

ig it depends from community community

[sly sluice]

it is

but different word

like in french

[winged field]

fairs

[sly sluice]

we have like 3 words for "key"

[winged field]

nah no hate to french,, i love baguettes

[winged field]

why?

[sly sluice]

im belgien

[winged field]

nvm you cool french then

I love stromae

[sly sluice]

i don't know. i guess it evolved that way because words were written a bit differently depending on the region

[winged field]

does belgium have cantons like switserland?

[sly sluice]

nope we got provinces

[winged field]

oh

[sly sluice]

which are mostly based on region

rather then administration

like every region has its own administration but its based on the region

[winged field]

wait didnt like your prime minister said that he wants integrate part of belgium to netherlands?

😭

[winged field]

nice

[sly sluice]

he did but nobody here loves him

even the flemmish who hates us

😂

[winged field]

lol

weird stuff

[sly sluice]

belgian politics is weird asf

works kinda like usa' congress but divided in different functions

[winged field]

hmm

Some countries are overcomplicating it for sure

We just have parlament and thats it

[sly sluice]

divided by function. language community and then the language community has a territory

so you can be like

speaking french

so in the parliement you are of the french community part

[winged field]

Ig it makes sense since you have multiple national languages and stuff

[sly sluice]

but you CAN be in the flemmish territory side well its just a lot of bs i don't even understand myself

and then the two sides are divided again based on what they work on

like healthcare and all of that

but yeah😂

im convinced belgians don't even understand who they vote for

they just know what the people they elect want

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/joe-biden-presidential-debate-5

[sly sluice]

yeah

crushes my hopes and dreams

i don't know how it works

it makes my head go brrrrrrrr

[winged field]

if it works dont fix it I guess

[sly sluice]

thing is it doesn't work

[winged field]

if it doesnt work dont fix it cuz it can be worse ig 😭

[sly sluice]

we're like one of the country with the highest debt in europe per capita

[winged field]

how much?

worse than france?

nvm you said per capita

[sly sluice]

around 60K i think

[winged field]

my brain is melting from this

[sly sluice]

also yes

belgian debt is over 650billion

[vapid cradle]

i have under estimated these belgians

they aint movin an inc

[sly sluice]

thanks 🫡

😂

[sly sluice]

how many hours you got on the game?

[severe monolith]

This was totally a lovely peace deal, nothing weird at all

[vapid cradle]

shii like 300

i enter thru netherlands like butter

usually

havent played in a bit tho

[maiden bolt]

im close to Washington DC

[prisma steppe]

this campain was cancer

[sly sluice]

guys

[copper sluice]

am i the only one who feels like the philippine focus tree is just way too slow

[sly sluice]

im in the top 10 best HOI4 players in belgium

(calculated with exophase and the amount of HOI4 players in belgium)

[copper sluice]

out of 11 players I assume

[prisma steppe]

you mean south nether & north burgundy?

[sly sluice]

out of around 1500 to 2000 in estimates

[green magnet]

Im starting to get better in this game

before i'd always lose every war i go to and have a horrible economy

400 hours later smh

[copper sluice]

a bunch of pretty great buffs that ur only gonna get in like 1942

[sly sluice]

i have played burdungi so much

[copper sluice]

burdungi

[vital mirage]

help XD (i'm japan)

[sly sluice]

just say you don't know belgian history instead

historically we're closer to spain then france

[copper sluice]

cope

[prisma steppe]

belgium doesnt exist

[copper sluice]

belgium is french territory 💯

[prisma steppe]

in europe at least

isnt that some afrikan country?

that used to occupy the congo

[copper sluice]

cant wait for the france dlc

[sly sluice]

low iq or bait. call it

[prisma steppe]

southern netherlands is rightful burgundian clay

[copper sluice]

what am I going to do with 24 chromium

[prisma steppe]

export to usa for their ships

3 civies that you wont have to build

[sly sluice]

even nature hates the netherland mate.

[prisma steppe]

thats why its nickname is the nether

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-8675616492999829547

[copper sluice]

im communist

[sly sluice]

but ngl

i gotta thanks the netherlands for making weed legal

[prisma steppe]

then to the USSR

only 200 hours to 3k

[sly sluice]

the problem with that is you don't choose who you trade ressources to

well you can filter it

using embargo

but thats it

and im shure embarogoing half the world is counterproductive

[copper sluice]

its 1943 soon 💀

at least I get insane naval buffs for no reason

[vital mirage]

most normal Europe

[sudden thistle]

dont EVER post here again

[vital mirage]

here is 1 more normal gameplay of japan

[safe wing]

In the 1400s that looks pretty normal for Europe

[azure crescent]

i need a country to play

give me a country

[opal nymph]

Play Poland

[maiden bolt]

south korea and invade north korea

[zenith imp]

which path of czechoslovakia is good

[hollow raptor]

Where's my ballistic missiles? I have silos and them ready I just can't find the missles

[smoky tapir]

Sooooo do yall think ima win or lose,

[grizzled yarrow]

am i cooked chat

[vapid cradle]

why cant i paratroop, it says they need 6 more planes but i got 400 in the field

100% superiority

[copper sluice]

28 days planning time lol

[quasi osprey]

the great tripartite pact germany sweden and estonia😂

[restive sable]

monarchist

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok consumer goods factor?

even lower now

[jade hearth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/address-me

[hollow raptor]

We're now bombing Turks at 1942

Israeli Palestinian coexisting made our technology stronger than ever

[simple citrus]

yo folk

is this saveable

[hollow raptor]

Strategic ballistics might not be useful for shit but they look cool and sure as hell slaughter turks

[opal nymph]

Steiner's counterattack will relieve Berlin

Probably a larger one that can handle getting shot down a bit and facing actual combat

[woeful knoll]

" paratropepr template div to use for an invasion of the uk"

[simple citrus]

idk
i think not

[woeful knoll]

Just say your a scrub

[opal nymph]

You should really get the Fallshirmjager focus that buffs them via Kurt Student advisor

[woeful knoll]

do not play with Türkiye

see how i am

you are scared of our power

[simple citrus]

@fervent minnow

[fervent minnow]

hi

yeah

[simple citrus]

hi

[fervent minnow]

TURKEY MENTIONED

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

[simple citrus]

anyways do you think a steiner counterattack would help me here

[fervent minnow]

🙏 good luck bro

[woeful knoll]

Do the "~occupationpaint sov" manuver used in multiplayer

[simple citrus]

i didn't even invade the soviets 😭

[simple citrus]

might not really help me here

should i ask them for military access doe

[woeful knoll]

did you lose a war to poland

and thne

they took ur states

how does it get to this point

[vital cove]

why do you have no generals

[simple citrus]

rommel

[vital cove]

not even a field marshal

[vital cove]

doing nothing

170 under a single general does nothing

[simple citrus]

as if having 7 generals would help here

[vital cove]

i mean

if you had generals to begin with

[simple citrus]

i did

[vital cove]

you would be less likely

to end up in this situation

[simple citrus]

i just decided to group up my divisions

rn

[vapid cradle]

why arent my paratroooppers droppppping

im gonna tweak out

[simple citrus]

uh

[vapid cradle]

absolute 0 thing stopping htem

[fervent minnow]

I HATE having to fight switzerland

[simple citrus]

dont ask why is hungary pushing into vienna

[fervent minnow]

i was minding my own business then they demanded the alpines and now im in this goddamn attrition war

[safe wing]

restart bro

[fervent minnow]

whats the play here guys, i got military access from austria

those 3 divs are 3 mountaineers

[woeful knoll]

you dont even know what scrub means

[simple citrus]

wuh

[woeful knoll]

most informed go y

[fervent minnow]

they had that from france before they went to war w m e

[simple citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mello-death-note-anime-stare-gif-19147215

[simple citrus]

oh

[simple citrus]

my dumbass thought it was tgwr

[fierce mist]

yeah so what mods do you use for the gfx

that looks much better

or well map mod and that

please

[fervent minnow]

total graphix redux :3

[fierce mist]

looks good

[fervent minnow]

and azistel's map

the map is azistels map

the rest are uh

kel's buttons

i forgot the other ones lol

[fierce mist]

cool

[fervent minnow]

anyway yall WHAT do i do here

please help

[fierce mist]

any tips on how to actually make good templates

[woeful knoll]

last thing churchill saw before losing his empire:

[woeful knoll]

3X3 infantry block with super heavy artillery

and support

Spam that

And cas

Is having 1000 2w infantry divisons a viable strategy

i have yet to try it but it seems like a cheat code

[safe wing]

last thing the second Bulgarian Empire saw

[cedar ruin]

hello

[woeful knoll]

e

[woeful knoll]

last thing byzantium saw before being made better:

[fervent minnow]

update:

turns out with enough men you can break through forts

[vapid cradle]

is it possible to paratroop invade uk in 1941

retried 40 times

[quasi osprey]

OIL!!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/нефтяной-насос-gif-4665812403819159701

[dim hazel]

I HATE TANKS SO MUCH I HATE EM I HATE EM I DISLIKE THOSE GIANT OIL CHUGGING METAL CLANKING MACHINES I DO NOT LIKE TANKS DESTROY ALL TANKS WHY ARE DEY SO OP AYGSDIUHAWUHDHASYDWUDJH

[buoyant rivet]

which of the new doctrines are best for cavalry?

im playing poland as the cossack king

[willow gull]

yes

[vapid cradle]

deadass my 12 units of paratroopers r dissapeared

gone

im retrying for the 30th time

[willow gull]

are you targeting ports

[vapid cradle]

yes

[vital cove]

why are you using tanks then

[quasi osprey]

Britain decided to go on its villain ark

[shut plover]

anyone know anything abt hoi4 twilight moon?

[dim hazel]

what could have possibly happened in order to do that

[quasi osprey]

It decided to attack netherlands

[quasi osprey]

netherlands was in the danubian faction

[dim hazel]

why cant hoi4 get a movie

[safe wing]

Documentaries exist

[dim hazel]

i dont want a ww2 documentary i want a hoi4 movie

[safe wing]

Lemme link a YouTube channel covering kaiserreich lore as a historical documentary

[dim hazel]

(i meant hoi4 movie not hoi4 documentary)

but hear me out real quick what they say at the end of the movie when they cap germany they gotta say "we are hearts of iron"

[safe wing]

https://youtu.be/U6FyiKznNGg?si=uLuW_YAHn6UMmqCx

https://youtu.be/jBfeAOW1A38?si=PcEQQXjG9opPSx9z

[dim hazel]

paradox IM WAITING FOR THE HEARTS OF IRON 4 MOVIE

[oak mantle]

Who should i do a world conquest as

[civic fog]

who else listenign to yara yara ya phonk while playing hoi4 👇

[safe wing]

What options do you have listed

[dim hazel]

italy

[oak mantle]

Everything apart from countries that will take like 60 years

[safe wing]

So majors I take it

[oak mantle]

Majors or minors that can scale

[safe wing]

Okay do one you haven’t done much

[oak mantle]

Might do soviets but itll prolly be too easy

[junior grotto]

Hello everyone

How many hoi4 packs are there

[oak mantle]

DLCS?

[junior grotto]

Yeah

[safe wing]

we used to call DLC's expansion packs in my day

also speaking of I'm playing a Medivial II mod that adds all the features from the expansion packs into vanilla here is the British isles ATM

Denmark stole Nottingham

[pearl shoal]

plz add neo libertarian falangism dlc

plzzzzz