hoi4-general

[cinder parrot]

69 dollars damn

[tulip thorn]

Yes, what is your issue?

[terse skiff]

The game tutorial is a joke, follow the beginner tutorial on hoi4 official ytb channel and then try to follow and recreate bittersteel's Germany guide. That's the real tutorial

[pulsar drift]

So far I've only built a civilian factory in Lazio which completed the mission but no matter how many military factories I start it doesn't complete
I'm guessing I'd need to unpause but then I don't understand why does the civilian factories req complete without unpausing, I feel like I'm missing something

[pulsar drift]

Is it good? I come from the EU franchise where the devs don't know the game so their tutorials suck

[tulip thorn]

As bmh said the tutorial is pretty bad anyway

[pulsar drift]

I assumed it could be the same here

[terse skiff]

The official ytb channel tutorial is made by a real player

[tulip thorn]

Just find one on youtube

[pulsar drift]

Alr so I'll start a normal game

[terse skiff]

But yeah PDX tutorials from the 2010s are a joke

[pulsar drift]

Oh checks out

[upbeat tundra]

pdx tutorials suck in general

[pulsar drift]

This one?

[terse skiff]

I heard it's better for vicky3 and ck3 but I don't play them

[terse skiff]

Yeah

[pulsar drift]

Alr I'll give that a watch, tysm

[cinder parrot]

I tried playing the tutorial and nothing worked

[terse skiff]

Iirc it's bugged but I'm not sure about that. Could be mods

[cinder parrot]

Anyways

What nation in hoi4 do I play tomorrow?

[terse skiff]

Panama

[cinder parrot]

No focus tree

Silence

[upbeat tundra]

bhutan

[tulip thorn]

default focus tree aint that bad

[terse skiff]

Yeah also bhutan was the strongest industrial power pre aat

If you know you know

[cinder parrot]

I’m only playing countries with an actual focus tree

[terse skiff]

Play bice ussr then

Cry as Stalin purges everyone be ause you failed 2nd 5yp

[cinder parrot]

Very fun until you realize playing the USSR isn’t fun when Barbarossa occurs

That’s ok

I’ll just spam forts

Train my army

[terse skiff]

Barb in vanilla is ez

[cinder parrot]

Make it enormous

[terse skiff]

Bice is different

[cinder parrot]

I play modded

[terse skiff]

Ussr starts with real debuffs

[cinder parrot]

Bice is basically just someone who is decent at hoi4 starting all over

[terse skiff]

Bice is for people who never met a girl irl

[cinder parrot]

I can build steel facilities but can’t use the steel they produce

They produce 15

Each

[terse skiff]

If I want to play that detailed an industry simulator I would play city skylines, I can even decorate my city that way

[cinder parrot]

Bice also has stupid mechanics

[terse skiff]

It's realistic

[cinder parrot]

No a uniform doesn’t need 2 steel

[terse skiff]

You need steel for the machines

[cinder parrot]

And isn’t “1” unit of resource in hoi4 a ton?

[terse skiff]

No the resources are based on vibes

[cinder parrot]

But still, uniform production doesn’t need to consume 2 steel

[undone veldt]

Anyone have any tips for playing poland on historical? I feel like suffering, but I don't wanna loose.

[lapis onyx]

its been years since i played my man

[cinder parrot]

Construct fortifications

Massively increase industry

Fix them supplies

Train your army

Use a good template

[tulip thorn]

Forts are a waste of construction

[undone veldt]

Is line arty good for defense?

I dont remember

[cinder parrot]

Son.

I used them to defend against nazi advances for awhile as Bulgaria

[tulip thorn]

Its true

[undone veldt]

Not really

[tulip thorn]

You could have done that without forts

[cinder parrot]

Outnumbered by multiple times yet lasted long

[tulip thorn]

Very easily

[cinder parrot]

No not really

[tulip thorn]

Yes

[undone veldt]

Could and should are not the same

[cinder parrot]

If I didn’t build them I would’ve been gone in like, 4 in game weeks

I lasted like a few months

[tulip thorn]

Did you cap

[cinder parrot]

Longer than France though

[cinder parrot]

I capped forts because their bonus stacks

[undone veldt]

Do you know a good defense template

[tulip thorn]

Yes

[cinder parrot]

I just use 9, 3, and 1

Works nicely but also is very expensive

I don’t need 9,000 pieces of artillery for this

[undone veldt]

I use 9 inf with support engineering, support artillery, and sometimes support spaa because it kills off a few things but only if im not broke

[undone veldt]

Wym

[cinder parrot]

9 infantry, 3 artillery, and 1 anti tank

[undone veldt]

3?

[cinder parrot]

I mostly use it because of the good soft attack

[undone veldt]

I will have to have my whole industry on ts

[tulip thorn]

anti tank isnt all that good in sp btw, ai tanks are way to bad

aa can pierce them

[undone veldt]

I agree tbh

[cinder parrot]

Until it’s USSR because they mass produce it

[undone veldt]

I usually only use 3 artillery if im rich

[tulip thorn]

thousands of ai tanks vs 1 support aa

anti tank aint worth it

[cinder parrot]

That AA is gonna be vaporized

[undone veldt]

Support aa is underated

[cinder parrot]

Sure as hell is

[tulip thorn]

Its not

Anti air can pierce ai tanks

[undone veldt]

Germanys early war tanks are not great

[cinder parrot]

Wait what

[undone veldt]

France actually had better quality tanks irl

[tulip thorn]

Making anti tank is a waste of ic in singleplayer

[cinder parrot]

Ic?

I meant to open my gifs

[undone veldt]

Industrial capacity?

Lol

[tulip thorn]

The cost of equipment

Its not worth making

[cinder parrot]

I was thinking the ~ic

[last dome]

yo guys

[undone veldt]

Wsg

[last dome]

how do we not get civil war if we send volunteer to spain as france

when i send volunteers i just went into civ war

[undone veldt]

Just dont bother tbh

[last dome]

no

i need it

[undone veldt]

No point

[last dome]

just assume its a must

[undone veldt]

Why

[last dome]

just assuming

[tulip thorn]

Wdym no point

[last dome]

then how do i avoid civ war

just answer this

[tulip thorn]

vols to spain is useful anytime you can

[last dome]

but how do i avoid civ war

demo france

[undone veldt]

Just invade spain bro

After the Civil war

They die instantly

[tulip thorn]

Genius

An iq too high

[last dome]

yeah peak gameknowledge

PEAK

asked how much birds on a tree

he told us to saw the freaky tree down

[undone veldt]

I mean i dont have many hours

[last dome]

💀

[cinder parrot]

Do any DLCs add onto battle for the Bosporus

[last dome]

@tulip thorn how do we avoid it tho

[tulip thorn]

Idk

I dont play france

[undone veldt]

Ive never played france

[tulip thorn]

I have

But its been awhile

and when I do its with a french focus tree mod

[undone veldt]

Ive played peru tho and it sucked

[last dome]

then bro talks like hes a genius player

[undone veldt]

Twice

[last dome]

💀

we need good bros here

[undone veldt]

Im just giving shi off what I know

[sudden thistle]

95% of the ppl here are horrible at the game anyways

maybe 90% to be nice

[last dome]

pliz help

[sudden thistle]

im in a game rn u got this bro

[last dome]

💀

just quick

[tulip thorn]

98%

[last dome]

any tips

[undone veldt]

Jeez man you ask a question and criminalize a answer, im not a all knowing god

[last dome]

any clicks bro

[undone veldt]

I only have 600ish hours

[fair horizon]

not me im the best

[tulip thorn]

So true

[undone veldt]

Are support hospitals worth it for poland, I need the manpower but its more i have to produce

[placid sleet]

absolute cinema

[cinder parrot]

Yes, and get logistics companies

Literal saviors of the army

[undone veldt]

I love Switzerland this was like a month ago

Yeah I figured it would help

I was playing manchuko

[undone veldt]

I haven't used logistics company's I always forget abt them and someone told me they weren't worth it

[lapis onyx]

btw i remember that italy was annexed in wolfeinstein from a newspaper clip in the first newer game but what happened with japan?

[lapis onyx]

tbh the one switerzerland acheivement shouldvebeen call in the halls of the mountain king

[undone veldt]

Yeah

[sudden thistle]

most people who need help just dont read whats right in front of them

so do that

[cinder parrot]

Logistics companies are AMAZING

Without them your supply lines are gonna cripple if you have a large army

[undone veldt]

What stats do they boost

[cinder parrot]

The supply consumption, its reduced

[undone veldt]

Actually that would be good

I can fight way longer

[cinder parrot]

Yeah

At max logistics company level it reduces supply consumption by 40 percent

[undone veldt]

And with higher defense stats that would work good

Damn

Is that good for Africa

I always struggle there

Even if i micro

[sudden thistle]

do u have 12 divs per tile...

[undone veldt]

Depends

If they push me bc they stack 100 divs

Also i try not to build great supply in Africa bc if they take it it makes it harder

[sudden thistle]

just dont lose it

i can assign like 1-2 divs per tile and be fine

[cinder parrot]

Hmmm

I might play USA and form the fascist America led by none other, Douglass MacArthur and genuinely powderize Tokyo with my favorite tool of Uranium

[terse skiff]

Also logistics reduces oil consumption which is essential if you build a lot of armor divisions

Ussr will run out of oil in 20 days with 120 36w SPG divisions if you don't have logistics company

[cinder parrot]

They won’t run out if they get refineries though

[undone veldt]

Im gonna play poland so

[terse skiff]

Uh no?

Refineries give pathetic oil

[cinder parrot]

Who leads it?

[undone veldt]

I played the us facist path last game

[cinder parrot]

Refineries are good if your playing a country with small natural oil

[terse skiff]

No they don't?

[undone veldt]

MacArthur during the war then him or two others after

[terse skiff]

You do know refineries give you near zero oil right

Refineries are for rubber

You want oil you buy them from usa

[cinder parrot]

Max out your refinery research then

[terse skiff]

No I'll research useful tech then

Also 20 days is with 1941 oil tech

Without it's like 5 days

[cinder parrot]

Does one not know to max their refineries out in a state and to max out storage?

[undone veldt]

If you do thr civil war make sure you spam divs early bc they start with way more than you

Also Canada is pathetic

[terse skiff]

Ten refineries give you around the same oil as 1 unit of oil

[cinder parrot]

I had a civil war and had dougy take over because 1, he’s a good leader somehow, and 2, the anti fascist America genuinely got clapped because they had little divisions

[terse skiff]

So for one civ of oil purchase you need like 80 refineries

[cinder parrot]

What difficulty are you playing on for this

[undone veldt]

When i did it I got cooked bc i started with nothing and they started with way more

I had to micro through the mid west and it was annoying

[terse skiff]

With a few mods

In base game it's one unit without tech

But no one researched oil synthetic tech

[undone veldt]

Anyone know any good mechanized and medium tank templates

[cinder parrot]

Also don’t the refinery outputs increase with one of the buildings

[terse skiff]

In base game on 1941 tech one synthetic is like half a unit of oil

[cinder parrot]

The thing that says +10% resource gain efficiency per infrastructure level

[terse skiff]

So you need 16 refineries to equal one civ worth of oil

[cinder parrot]

I need my civs for repair though

[terse skiff]

Refineries give fixed oil

[cinder parrot]

Because I barely get air dominance

[terse skiff]

Do you not know how refineries work?

[cinder parrot]

And focus in creating rocket bombs and then work in air dominance

[terse skiff]

Do you want to spend 240 civs working for 2 months so 480 civ-months to build refineries or just spend one civ to import the same amount of oil?

[cinder parrot]

Hmmm

Yeah I’ll buy oil

[terse skiff]

Refineries mainly give you rubber

Not oil

[cinder parrot]

I actually mostly use refineries for air

Simply because the game loves ruining everything

[terse skiff]

Yeah cuz rubber is mainly used to build planes

[undone veldt]

Can someone answer this

[cinder parrot]

Does gotterdamerung add more technology to the flying bombs?

[undone veldt]

What is that

Why does it look like thet

[terse skiff]

It's your answer

At least for sp

Hoidesigner.com

[undone veldt]

What path should I do tho @cinder parrot

[cinder parrot]

Yo does gotterdamerung expand the flying bomb technology?

[cinder parrot]

What country you playing rn

[undone veldt]

Im gonna do that poland game

[elfin igloo]

yeah just use refineries for rubber

and then import oil

[cinder parrot]

Fascist but don’t support Germany

[terse skiff]

It gives you a better torpedo in around 1947 if you spend all your points in it iirc

[cinder parrot]

I wanna make more flying bombs though

[undone veldt]

Are irbms good

[cinder parrot]

I wanna bomb the hell out of Türkiye

[undone veldt]

I got them once and didn't use em

[cinder parrot]

Idk bro I never did a game with them

[terse skiff]

Are you Greek or Armenian

[cinder parrot]

“Are you something you aren’t or something you aren’t?”

I use them on Türkiye in HOI4 as Bulgaria because it kills their supplies and gives me time to work on something very radioactive

[cinder parrot]

I love getting about 2 million Germans to dance in HOI4 as Bulgaria

[grand crater]

first poland win

[olive adder]

i got a small discord if anyone wants chill games

[elfin igloo]

arno brekker statue

[undone veldt]

@grand crater I'm about to play Poland

@cinder parrot can you avoid the civil war?

[undone veldt]

Cool

[cinder parrot]

Civil war for fascism?

[undone veldt]

I played fascist poland a week ago and a Civil War happened

[undone veldt]

Ye

Is it necessary or nah

[cinder parrot]

Get the fascism support majority

[undone veldt]

I did

[cinder parrot]

If there’s the thing that allows political disclosure

Do “Hold national referendum”

[undone veldt]

I flipped and some leftists got pissed

I think

[grand crater]

took me a couple of tries haha

[undone veldt]

Yeah I'm prob gonna try to peace Germany and fight Russia

Russia is weak af early

[grand crater]

yeah i immediantly fought russia after this picture and beat them with this template

[undone veldt]

Bro what is that

No support?

[cinder parrot]

Your gonna get killed

That template is horrendous

[undone veldt]

Can I ask how many game hours you have?

[grand crater]

no i just rushed guns to beat germany and put all my mills into it

[undone veldt]

Uhh

[grand crater]

i think 600

[undone veldt]

Thats quite inefficient

[cinder parrot]

I have less hours and I build better infantry divisions bro

[grand crater]

not a infantry division i use for other countries purely for this run

[undone veldt]

What do you use on other games

[cinder parrot]

Your division template is still the worst thing I’ve ever seen

[undone veldt]

Yeah

You could have prob won faster with a better template

[cinder parrot]

I have a considerably smaller one, less MP, and better stats than that one

I tell you, you don’t need 20k men in a single template

[undone veldt]

This is my bare minimum

[cinder parrot]

Mine average out at 12.3k to 12.8k

[grand crater]

usually this when i cant afford it

can*

[undone veldt]

Holy shit

Thats massive

[cinder parrot]

Get the hell out of here!

Your divisions genuinely suck bro

[undone veldt]

You should probably change that bro

[cinder parrot]

The divisions I use genuinely curbstomp this

[dusky burrow]

with what doctrine

[grand crater]

works for my runs thats all i need

[dusky burrow]

this is where i'd add like support rocket or super-heavy howitzer

or something else

flame tanks maybe

[cinder parrot]

Even with max tech, that division still gets curbstomped against the type I used in the same tech level

[undone veldt]

What doctrine do you use

When you fight AI the soft attack stat is very important

[cinder parrot]

I use mobile warfare as grand doctrine

I use assault infantry

[undone veldt]

Eh

[cinder parrot]

Field engineering

[undone veldt]

I use it sometimes

[cinder parrot]

Because I need the damn artillery to get their soft attack to increase

For tanks I mainly do streamlined deployment

[undone veldt]

I like supiror firepower for the soft atack bonus

[grand crater]

more commonly this tho

[cinder parrot]

What am I looking at

[grand crater]

ill typically use superior firepower

[grand crater]

my template 🤷‍♂️

[tulip thorn]

Something that is close to being decent

[dusky burrow]

what about subdoctrines

[tulip thorn]

They got most of the support companies right

[undone veldt]

Thats not bad

[dusky burrow]

i don't think artillery would increase attack by that much

also with such a large division you want signals somewhere if they're your main holders

(aside from the fact line artillery isn't that useful here)

[grand crater]

i mean i wouldnt personally say im very good at the game i play like a couple times a month but it gets what i need it to do done and thats all i need so

[grand crater]

what companies would you recommend?

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot is this the right path

[last dome]

@dusky burrow how to train units to get veterancy without losing equipments btw

i forgot everything about veterancy since i haven't touched france for so long 💀

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot

[lavish veldt]

im tryna do operation sealion buttttt

i cant seem to wither down the RADF

[cinder parrot]

Yes

Do rightwing paramilitarism

[undone veldt]

Yeah it sucks so bad

[undone veldt]

Ok

[lavish veldt]

operation sealion seems impossible

the british js destroyed my fleet

so

im kinda fuh

[undone veldt]

I know good templates for navy

[cinder parrot]

Make sure you crush the socialists too

[undone veldt]

Yeah with this right?

[cinder parrot]

Appoint a leader that increases your fascism support

[undone veldt]

I have a .5 percent one i will do

[eternal timber]

sidelining them just decreases their irritation i think you need to do a focus to get rid of the left idk

[cinder parrot]

Do it

[lavish veldt]

Uh guyw

[grand crater]

i overshot by quit a bit tbh i just based it off my steam hours and cut off a couple hundred cause i leave the game open alot

[lavish veldt]

ok i was testing smth

[undone veldt]

Why do all the focuses give unaligned

Its dumb

[vivid juniper]

Is Individual Excellents good?

I primarily use it for Japan doctrine Ali and it’s worked out so far so good

[grand crater]

i have about 21 haha

[cinder parrot]

It’s due to the polish dictatorship

[eternal timber]

individual excellence is a infantry or other kind of subdoctrine? like operations

if so i guess its ok but there are just better doctrines for you to use

[raw crystal]

I might try forming Austria Hungary or do a monarchist Poland Run. If forming Austria Hungary is it easier to form it as Austria or Hungary?

[undone veldt]

I like Austria for it but i heard Hungary is better

[grand crater]

oops didnt know i had to change it to include mods so i actually have 632

[eternal timber]

anyone remember the dawn of the motherland mod? why did they stop updating it

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot what should I do now

[vivid juniper]

Subdoctine like mobile infantry for large units tactics

[winter fulcrum]

is unifying china in 1942 good?

[eternal timber]

large units tactics is probably the most versatile infantry sub doctrine and if you arent going for a specific build, id recommend large units tactics. however, assault infantry is also pretty decent for support and line artillery

[dusky burrow]

you can still have the same combat width though

[eternal timber]

how did you steal central asia from russia?

[cinder parrot]

Triumph of the OZN

[vivid juniper]

No, I’m saying I use individual excellence for Japan and assault infantry everyone else

It works out just fine for me

[eternal timber]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah thats understandable

[vivid juniper]

I use large unit tactics for China

[cinder parrot]

After that do The Castle to get rid of the commies

[undone veldt]

What abt this

Nm

[eternal timber]

invite the neo libetarian falangists

[undone veldt]

Yeah

I looked at them

[eternal timber]

when is 10 euro nepal dlc

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot soo

[winter fulcrum]

well jokingly i did ussr dissolved when i did the game, then russia did the civil war, and then nationalist china went democratic and allied those countries so i got them in the peace deal

[cinder parrot]

Oh wait

Just continue fascism

[undone veldt]

I can revert i saved

Should i?

[cinder parrot]

No

It adds non aligned

You don’t want it

[undone veldt]

How do i get rid of this

[cinder parrot]

Issue, I don’t know

I never play Poland

But does the fascist increase outweigh it

[undone veldt]

Bro

Its gaining 0.12 a day

Fascist is getting 0

[winter fulcrum]

bruh they swapped places 😭

[undone veldt]

Lol

[cinder parrot]

Institute press censorship, and ban non aligned

[winter fulcrum]

u cant ban non aligned

[undone veldt]

There is no ban non allign

[winter fulcrum]

its the one ideology that literally doesnt have a decision to ban it or raid them

[undone veldt]

There is for some ideology i think tho

[dusky burrow]

classic

[cinder parrot]

That’s actually stupid

[undone veldt]

Its called sum weird tho not ban

[dusky burrow]

also why are the kurils independent

[winter fulcrum]

u can do institute press censorship but it doesnt ban them

[undone veldt]

Ik

@cinder parrot

[cinder parrot]

Annex the Czechs first

[undone veldt]

So I gotta fight them

Damn

[cinder parrot]

The Czechs will be tough tho

Since don’t they have a strong military industry?

[undone veldt]

Imma delete the cavalry for guns

I dont like cavalry

[cinder parrot]

Cavalry is genuine cheeks

[undone veldt]

You think this will be enough

Im kinda broke

I can barely afford ts

[cinder parrot]

Wait

I got a quick tip

Add some artillery

It will help

[undone veldt]

I cant bro

Im broke

[cinder parrot]

Oh

[undone veldt]

Ill try

I use arty

[cinder parrot]

Build some more civs

Use those civs to build some more military industry and infrastructure

[undone veldt]

Prob gonna do some industry focuses

[terse skiff]

please stop building civs 3.5 years before the war

[winter fulcrum]

lowk i might become a communist china main after seeing the insane stuff u get with it

[low dock]

WHY is italy green

[terse skiff]

Now apply the terrain debuff, less advisor buffs, less hp, and extra ic cost from line art

[undone veldt]

Bro @cinder parrot

Oops

Wrong one

[low dock]

With power of freind ship ahh war

[undone veldt]

I can not fight this

[low dock]

Is there any way to come back?

[undone veldt]

WHAT

@cinder parrot what do i do bro i can't fight that

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot

[cedar lance]

they should add a tank company

they should maybe add a assault troops battalion

aka sturmtruppe battalion

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot should I puppet them

[misty fossil]

Make artillery only

[azure crescent]

i swear none of yall know about print screen key

[undone veldt]

Im lazy

[azure crescent]

its one key

its faster even

[undone veldt]

Yeah but nah

Too far

[cinder parrot]

Fortify against Romania

[cinder parrot]

Do not annex the area Germany borders, just take Slovakia

[undone veldt]

I did the war they didn't join

[cinder parrot]

Puppet czechia

[undone veldt]

Uhh

[rigid ether]

Which channel would be best to find people to play with occasionally but also maybe get help learning the game better?

[undone veldt]

I puppet czechia and Slovakia

[cinder parrot]

Ok

[undone veldt]

Im gonna stay at peace with Germany and fight Russia

[cinder parrot]

Kill hungry

[undone veldt]

Why

[cinder parrot]

They don’t deserve any bit of slovakia

[undone veldt]

I think ill pass

[cinder parrot]

Oh

[undone veldt]

Could fight Lithuania

Russia has Latvia and Estonia already tho so prob wont make it

[cinder parrot]

Lithuania is weak

Take those fools

[undone veldt]

And there gone

2 seconds bro

[cinder parrot]

Lithuania?

[undone veldt]

Broo I'm surrounded

[cinder parrot]

Mein gott

[cinder parrot]

I got an option

Just trust me

Sweden

[undone veldt]

My navy btw

I know good templates but

I kinda can't its too late Germany is gonna Annex danzig In like a few days

Are we fr

[last dome]

@tribal frost cant join

[undone veldt]

Is this a good defense line @cinder parrot

[cinder parrot]

Fortify bro

FORTIFY

[undone veldt]

Germany is justifying on me 😬

I think its the focus

[cinder parrot]

Alright

So yeah your cooked

[undone veldt]

Nm we good

[cinder parrot]

Bro

Just shot your leg off

[undone veldt]

I didn't have anything there anyway

I got Lithuania once i invade Russia

Its 1939 bro chill

Dang

[cloud maple]

90286099784698891, need a germany to HJ (December 1936 historical path)

[undone veldt]

I think they got hacked 😬

I saw someone do the same stuff after they did

[cinder parrot]

Yo mods incinerate there 2

[cedar kite]

<@&846894118219022336>

[undone veldt]

<@&846894118219022336>

Sound the alarms bro

[cinder parrot]

<@&846894118219022336>

[tepid saffron]

this leading a country stuff is easy asl son

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1467223680647037174/1494521457143971972/caption-114.gif

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725866486425583679/1499772550828396575/output.gif

@disc

<@&846894118219022336>

[tulip thorn]

4 pings

[crystal sandal]

peak

[undone veldt]

We sounding the alarms

[tepid saffron]

they get nothing out of more pings 😭

[undone veldt]

@cinder parrot its 1940 the Russians are sitting and doing nothing

Whats the best garrison law

[tepid saffron]

local police force

[undone veldt]

Should I just justify on Russia at this point

[tepid saffron]

do u have any air?

[undone veldt]

Building fighers rn

[tepid saffron]

cas?

[undone veldt]

Nah

I gotta research more air

[tepid saffron]

me personally i wouldnt icl..

[winged field]

Either do AA or planes

[undone veldt]

I have support aa in all divs

I could build some anti air for my forts too

[winged field]

You doing defense build?

[undone veldt]

Yeah

Russia might be a pushover tho

[winged field]

If you got the oil I would put the mils from AA to fighter than

You gonna get bombed to shit

Without air

[undone veldt]

Ok

What doctrine should I do

[timid vigil]

you cannot disable dlc now?

in the launcher you cannot switch off any dlcs, cuz no switch is displayed

[reef dirge]

Hmmm that's a good question but my personal opinion I do battle field support

[undone veldt]

Same

Thats what I usually do

[winged field]

Operation integrity for pure air superiority

[timid vigil]

oh i see

[winged field]

Battlefield support for CAS

[undone veldt]

Yeah im cooked

[tepid saffron]

what hope said

[undone veldt]

I waited too long

They melted my divs like butter

[tepid saffron]

yeah i told u not to bro 😭

you have inter-war airplanes

[undone veldt]

Ik

I had 3 research slots so I didn't have time for planed

[tepid saffron]

idk what to tell u

vistula hold?

[undone veldt]

My divs didn't deploy 😡

[winged field]

Honestly my best tip for Poland is to attack not defend. The terrain is mainly plain which sucks for defense

[undone veldt]

I waited till 1940 thats my problem

They got too big

[tepid saffron]

so like hypothetically is it cooked?

[tepid saffron]

you should've done habsburg poland

[undone veldt]

Ill load back to 1938

[winged field]

You can grind them up a bit but don't focus on defense

[slow pike]

anyone have the the Peace for Our Time focus pack file

[undone veldt]

Actually tbh I might play a different nation

[tulip thorn]

Why

[reef dirge]

What happened to expansion pass one I was going to buy it to catch up to the others here on dlcs but noo apparently they got rid of it

[slow pike]

I need it for a multiplayer game can u send it to me

[undone veldt]

Is road to 56 good i barely played it

[tulip thorn]

Right

yeah ummm

not how it works

[reef dirge]

It is good

[last dome]

wtf is this @tribal frost

[undone veldt]

Whats that

[terse skiff]

is that eu4 in hoi4?

[undone veldt]

Is millennium dawn hard

[last dome]

idk

[undone veldt]

I have it but haven't played

[tulip thorn]

no

well its hard on your cpu

[undone veldt]

Is there a strategy

[undone veldt]

Do you know any good templates for it

[tulip thorn]

no

[undone veldt]

And what i should produce

Oh ok

[tulip thorn]

I had maybe 1 full game in md, just made whatever worked tbh

That was a year ago

[undone veldt]

Isn't road to 56 similar to vanilla

[tulip thorn]

yes

[undone veldt]

Anyone have a medium tank templates i want to try them since i rarely use them

What is this?

Tf

[tulip thorn]

Just extra research

Not needed

You can pretty much just ignore that, but you can lose on a few nice little boosts

[undone veldt]

Ill take it later when im invading Britain and the usa

[misty fossil]

eu4

[misty fossil]

I dont know

[tepid saffron]

i tried playing md sat there for 1-2 hours and didnt get past 2003

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[tulip thorn]

I am a md hater

[quasi osprey]

why are they leaving the front open there???

[tepid saffron]

vanilla ai

[quasi osprey]

in other places it looks like this...

[tepid saffron]

is there multiple fronts?

[quasi osprey]

no but in some places like baltics they decided to stack troops but near stalingrad they just left the front wide open

[tepid saffron]

ai sucks at prioritizing which fronts are more dangerous

theres multiple countries on the front so

[quasi osprey]

yeah I am about to complete a big encirclement too because of this

[quasi osprey]

not really just me and uk

[tepid saffron]

theres still multiple fronts but alr..

not sure what u were expecting from hoi4 ai

[quasi osprey]

and they seem to think attacking this ungarded place is useless

🥳

[steel idol]

any1 balkan?

[quasi osprey]

🥳

😂 idk why but this looks funny simply because we pushed so much to the right

[steel idol]

any1 balkan?

[upbeat tundra]

mmmmm

[mighty sphinx]

Me

[south mountain]

I won!

[mighty sphinx]

Ur ottomans?

[south mountain]

Lithuania

[mighty sphinx]

Good job fr

[manic iris]

GUYS how do i fix manpower

im alr on all adults serve

[feral oar]

nah brodie its too late😔

[ivory hull]

your only half way mobilized gng

and your lwk cooked either way

just restart

[upbeat tundra]

defend the homeland? nah i think ill defend the french border

[manic iris]

i will not fall

[steel idol]

any1 balkan?

[upbeat tundra]

howd i do with the borders?

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok amount of political power gain while doing a focus?

it went up even more

[fair horizon]

they're letting us give medals to boats? 🤤

[dusty adder]

Me

[terse skiff]

We told you to stop battleplanning

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for hungary 1937?

[tired bough]

yes why

[fair horizon]

no, you're playing hungary

[honest glacier]

do u want validation for everything youve done

[quasi osprey]

I want to know whats the standart to see if the way I do stuff is good or if I should do other paths that are better for me.🤷‍♂️

[manic iris]

I literaly had zero progress

[quasi osprey]

I think to have a better chance of winning or at least holding u should probably fall back to places like the maginot line, sudetenland, large rivers.

[quasi osprey]

If I understand ur situation properly that is idk

[terse skiff]

At this point restart and follow along bittersteel's Germany guide

[last dome]

the game of doom and depair again

💀

[copper cobalt]

Consolidate! Consolidate! Mobilize! Mobilize! Train the recruits on the march!

[quasi osprey]

I wonder which of these factions shouldnt exist😂

[prisma steppe]

hell nah

[quasi osprey]

I just figured out that I will probably never get rid of the trianon treaty💀

[prisma steppe]

i have trade boosted the soviets so hard they pushed and puppeted the whole of europe, like everything in europe,

[prisma steppe]

the hungarian plague is expanding

[quasi osprey]

evrything would be perfect If I could ever get rid of trianon treaty

[prisma steppe]

you forgot, portugal and bulgaria

[quasi osprey]

portugal?

[prisma steppe]

balkan country in the western part europe

[lapis snow]

there's a meme that portugal is an honorary balkan member because their national stats are often more similar to Romania than other EU members

[quasi osprey]

oh ok

[prisma steppe]

nah tfr is crazy

[quasi osprey]

is there a way to get rid of the trianon treaty except the focuses?

[prisma steppe]

cant you get rid of it if you are at war

[lapis snow]

not sure. I never play hungary

[quasi osprey]

I hope because this focus bypassed becasue romania doesnt exist

[prisma steppe]

do thee have ironman enabled?

[quasi osprey]

no

but I am not going back

[prisma steppe]

yeah going into war should remove it

[quasi osprey]

ok

I wonder if this will be enough to hold against the axis when they decide to do anchluss or sudetenland

[prisma steppe]

best way to kill germany early on is to get poland on board

[quasi osprey]

yeah that would be good

[prisma steppe]

they dont have enough divs to properly hold such a big frontline

[quasi osprey]

also another goal of mine is doing this focus which is just op

[prisma steppe]

based, too bad there isnt one where you get cores on estonia and finland

[quasi osprey]

yeah but the swedish steel and civ industry should be enough.

[prisma steppe]

eco < Larp Factor

[quasi osprey]

their industry is already quite big by the time I may do the decision they will be much stronger

[grizzled yarrow]

yall

how do i prevent communist china from joining comintern

[prisma steppe]

like vanilla? or is modded allowed?

[quasi osprey]

1939???

[prisma steppe]

germany ai broke

happens quite often, even in historical

[quasi osprey]

I think it somehow bypassed anschluss

[prisma steppe]

if austria army is big they cant anschluss

[wind geode]

maybe germany was just tired of expansion

[prisma steppe]

peaceful austrian painter

[wind geode]

i think he did get accepted in art school this time

[grizzled yarrow]

Welp guess il leave it like this for now

[quasi osprey]

but they continued and took memeland which means anchluss bypassed

[quasi osprey]

but how can that happen

[prisma steppe]

probably funny buisness, cause they are your puppet right?

[quasi osprey]

they arent

[prisma steppe]

ahh check is on that they are in faction + facist

thank god for paradox coding skill issue

[quasi osprey]

oh ok

well then maybe we will not have to fight germany

at least this early

oh well I guess it didnt matter in the long run we are at war with italy and prob soon with germany

🎉

italy just made a big mistake

[vague abyss]

oof

[quasi osprey]

😩

[wary wigeon]

Is there a mod that brings back the og doctrine

[quasi osprey]

I think this is the kind of situation only bittersteel could save😭

[prisma steppe]

i ought to say you had to little divs

[quasi osprey]

yeah being democratic didnt help

[safe wing]

Together they are Captain Balkans

[prisma steppe]

Balkans, together, strong

[grave sonnet]

Balkans will win ez

[quasi osprey]

how?

[grave sonnet]

Through the power of friendship ofc

[quasi osprey]

oh yeah ofc

[fair horizon]

chat are you excited for the next dlc?

[safe wing]

Indifference

[prisma steppe]

this will be fun

[winged field]

Investing after 100 good reviews

[fair horizon]

im already in on the ground floor

[last dome]

country of technocracy

[lost tide]

Does anyone know how to get seaplane tenders

Because idk how to

OH GREAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR EM

[lost tide]

Screenshot kro screenshot

[reef dirge]

Rt56

[eternal socket]

@astral wedge why are u here

[prisma steppe]

this is midly op

[snow rain]

I wouldn't call trading 30% of your manpower for 15% atk on mountaineers OP

then again, depends on the country you're playing

[magic perch]

when designing a division are tanks or artillery better for increasing soft attack

[snow rain]

arty tanks are better since No Compromise No surrender DLC

[magic perch]

ah okay

i always thought artillery was better for soft attack

[cinder parrot]

Civilian governor if you need comp

And if you need MP

[low dock]

Guys why is some times front line button so useless?

When i do IT THEY KEEP FKING SENDING TO ONE PLACE

[copper cobalt]

BC you have to mng your armies

Micro mf have you heard of it

[lapis snow]

only for like the first year of the game. After that things like infantry weapon tech and tank tech outshines it. Add on top of that the doctrines and advisors that boost tanks and infantry, arty ends up being left in the dust completely by the time WW2 starts on historical

[prisma steppe]

the op point is i can have only mountaineers, i get so many buffs for them its crazy

[solid prairie]

someone wanna play?

[cinder parrot]

Which one of these mods is uncensoring the Nazi flag

[pine shale]

guys

how do i win wars

[cinder parrot]

Good template

Large army

[pine shale]

battleplan or micro manage?

[cinder parrot]

Good doctrine

[cinder parrot]

If its a small nation giving you trouble, microing works

[pine shale]

do you know why i lost this ?

i had 79 units

[prisma steppe]

the ukraine one, i remember it having a option tho

its called streamer mode i think

wholesome adolf

[pine shale]

anyone know

[zenith charm]

what did you lose

[pine shale]

the war

[zenith charm]

you're pushing into germany that doesnt look like losing

or is it

[pine shale]

nah i mangaged to push in a bit but then i got pushed back

i was using default templates is that bad

[zenith charm]

dont keep battleplanning because you lose a ton of equipement and org

[zenith charm]

kinda

its made to hold

not to push by itself

[pine shale]

idk how to micro manage efficently

[zenith charm]

its better to use tanks

[pine shale]

where can i get good templates that are easy to use

[zenith charm]

bittersteel channel maybe

[pine shale]

his vids are so long

[low dock]

0 fun got schizophrenia it was a horrible experience

[prisma steppe]

holy peak, WorldWar IV ahh equipment

[cinder parrot]

hm

[cinder parrot]

supply lines and the nazis having a better division template

[pine shale]

can you send me meta templates

[cinder parrot]

9 infantry, which you need 3 per row, 3 artillery and 1 anti tank in the 4th row

[pine shale]

what year should i start convering from default basic template to meta

[misty fossil]

Stop recommending him trash templates

[pliant rain]

Yo whats like the best expansions for infantry and tanks and like aircarft .Like dlc's that add more stuff to research.Stuff like that?

[lapis snow]

lmao

[cinder parrot]

when you can produce proper artillery

[misty fossil]

No one used line arty

[lapis snow]

NSB for tanks, BBA for planes, AAT for special forces

[cinder parrot]

it works when your gonna be forced to fight the nazis and soviets

[misty fossil]

@pine shale just make 35w mountaineers

for offensive

[lapis snow]

it's trash

[misty fossil]

9/0 for defense

yeah its genuinely trash

Idk what you were expecting

[pine shale]

can some1 just send me picture of meta template

[misty fossil]

im on a train

#ask-for-help-here message

@pine shale

Start here

[pine shale]

but that template will take a long time to make tho

[misty fossil]

scroll down……………

[pine shale]

what year do you guys replace your defaulte template with meta

[steady kernel]

if TAOG is good then i’ll buy the expansion pass

[pine shale]

any1 pls help

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[pliant rain]

Ive tried those but my game crashes when i use them bc there outdated

[pine shale]

please any1

[lapis snow]

whut?

[cedar lance]

i bought a new pair of headphones/headset today

[pine shale]

what year do you guys replace your defaulte template with meta

[lapis snow]

as soon as you have the means to do so. Research the necessary techs, produce the equipment, then change the templates once you can afford it

[pine shale]

so like 1939

[snow rain]

you can do so much earlier depending on what meta you mean

[lapis snow]

depends who you're playing and what you're building tbh

[snow rain]

because it changes based on countries and on unit types

[pine shale]

just the meta template

[snow rain]

#hoi4-general message

[pine shale]

bro am i supposed to google every meta template every time i play a new country

[snow rain]

some are consistant but some countries have different metas

that's just how it works

[pine shale]

so where do i find meta

[snow rain]

I can't give you advice on when you're supposed to have meta divs if you don't even tell if it's inf, special forces, tanks, mech etc.

[pine shale]

idk bruh i just wanna play germany and win

[snow rain]

then the inf meta you can get day1

9inf, sup arty and aa

the tanks you can get by mid 1938

[pine shale]

can u show picture

[lapis snow]

this all started with you losing divs as the UK though?

[pine shale]

this?

[snow rain]

adjust speed and reli to your liking, use radio instead of either easy maintenance or armor skirts depending on which you don't get
add either logistics or support aa to the div

[snow rain]

this is 9inf, 1 arty, 1aa, support engi and arty
this isn't 9inf, support aa and arty (the general meta inf in singleplayer)

[pine shale]

now ?

thanks

btw

how do i replace my current units template

[snow rain]

when you start, you basiclaly ake the base template and replace the engi with AA and it's done

you may want to wait a bit so you can do anchuluss first without having to pu 1/3rd of your industry on AA

[prisma steppe]

Abbrevianting the Central Powers is not a good idea mod devs

[snow rain]

don't you know about Command Power ?

[pine shale]

any1

[prisma steppe]

i know

[snow rain]

you modified the template, it's done automatically to all units with this template

[prisma steppe]

but seeing it on a map is worse

[pine shale]

is that why i have supply shortage now

[pine shale]

are you sure? im not sure about this

[snow rain]

if you have a template named "1" deployed and you modify the template named "1" in the div designer, all units deployed using said "1" template will be modified

[cinder parrot]

I wanna nuke the fr*nch

Guaranteeing Crimea of all countries

[prisma steppe]

even tho anschluss cant be done (i ate germany) this option is there for every single one of my cores

[pine shale]

is this tank division

[snow rain]

what

it is literally the image of a tank

well, a SPG is a tank

[pine shale]

is this tank divison

[snow rain]

self propelled gun (SPG) is an artillery tank
it's best tank in singleplayer

[pine shale]

ok

[lost tide]

Dis is a good div but replace field hospitals with a signal company/armored signal company and add a logistics company/anti air company

[lapis snow]

you don't like veterancy?

[prisma steppe]

holy is this support company unbalanced (you can have it in '37)

[pine shale]

idk what special forces do

also do u guys think its not annoying to have to fill out templates every game? its like a chore

[snow rain]

signal isn't useful in SP
FH is extremely good
and I already said they should add AA or logi higher up (just repeating so you know, ik there was a lot of messages in between)

[snow rain]

they have terrain buffs and get more breakthrough than infantry

[winged field]

also more org and less hp

[snow rain]

• they have their own doctrines if you have Arms Against Tyranny DLC

[pine shale]

how many trains ddo i need to rproduce

[snow rain]

it is balanced
it's good but not necessary and, as such, is almost always subpar to what else you can get, except for MP tank destroyer divs

[snow rain]

1 or 2 mils on it day 1 and you won't need to worry about it
except if you get logibombed, then you should produce armored trains (5mils)

[prisma steppe]

it stacks with tech's btw

if you play commie china you can get 100% initiative eventually

[pine shale]

any1 elese find having to design divison each game annoying

its just like ugh

[dreamy yoke]

how can i start a tutorial?

[winged field]

you only really need like 2 templates, 1 for attack and for holding/defense

+a garrison template, you can just use single cavarly for that

[misty fossil]

I got muted for forwarding an image in this server

Very cool

[cinder parrot]

if germany starts ww2 im not gonna join their call into the war if they are fighting the entire allies, if anything im leaving the axis

[quasi osprey]

😂

[cinder parrot]

dear god bro

mein gott

was ist das

[quasi osprey]

first year of a non-historical run

[pine shale]

what is this bro

[quasi osprey]

mechanised

[cinder parrot]

why are the russians fighting the tsars

ALEXEI LIVES.

[pine shale]

pls remove divison designe form this game

literal dogshit

[cinder parrot]

its in the game so players have freedom

[fading cairn]

which one

🤔

[cinder parrot]

"dogshit" you dont know how to design the templates

[pine shale]

how do i get that

[cinder parrot]

The Tsarovich. Alexei Lives.

[pine shale]

cuz its boring asf

[fading cairn]

no

[cinder parrot]

research it

[fading cairn]

denied

[quasi osprey]

research after trucks

[fading cairn]

alexei navalny

[cinder parrot]

alexei did not need to get shot in the head twice

[raven widget]

Hello guys, I might have kinda peculiar question, but can you give me any tips how to make USSR strongest in R56 mod? Thing is, im playing against my friends Czechoslovakia(he has whole austria hungary) and his ally Romania, we are playing ahistorical, germany is already mine, but i dont really know what im doing and I am sure I wont be able to push them at all..what could I do?? some special research projects maybe or?? thank you, we plan war maybe at start of 43 or end 42 ( we got all DLCs)

[cinder parrot]

also his clothing protected him from getting killed

[misty fossil]

Does he know

[cinder parrot]

the diamond woven clothing

[misty fossil]

Console annex all

ez

[pine shale]

its boring asf yes

[cinder parrot]

lets clown on this loser because he cant figure shit out

[misty fossil]

Does he know

[fading cairn]

#ask-for-help-here

[pine shale]

idiot its just boring

[cinder parrot]

bro your just ass at the game

template designing is easy

and whats next, your gonna tell me navy is bullshit

[pine shale]

yeah but its boring asf

[pine shale]

where

[cinder parrot]

the Sd.Kfz

[quasi osprey]

right after trucks

[prisma steppe]

@pine shale is hoi4 greatest germany larper

[quasi osprey]

two balkan alliances

[pine shale]

yeah so i cant even get thje tank template until 1940 nice idiot game

[prisma steppe]

"das war ein Befehl" - @pine shale after forgetting to research mech and trying to make meta-tank

[cinder parrot]

making flying bombs to terrorize the USSR

[pine shale]

bro mech is not availble til 1940

[prisma steppe]

how about doggo bombs

[cinder parrot]

no

its unethical

[lapis snow]

it is, you can get research bonuses from the focus tree and you can research ahead of time

it's not an issue

[prisma steppe]

you can research it early, aswell with germanys research ahead of time boni

[pine shale]

why not just remove divison desigfner its the worst mechanic in the game that makes it boring

[lost tide]

Meh my tanks were level 5 veterancy by the time I finished ww2 as france

[prisma steppe]

wait til he learns about mio's

[lost tide]

I used signal companies instead of field hospitals

[pine shale]

nice trickery

[winged field]

still looks too normal

[lapis snow]

you've been complaining about every single mechanic in the game since you joined this server. Could you just accept that you're learning and it is frustrating rather than being so annoying

[quasi osprey]

yeah

[winged field]

not enough civil wars

[prisma steppe]

go to german, army branch

and look for a icon with a mechanised infantry

[lost tide]

hoi4 is frustrating in the beginning

Eventually you get used to it once you become a hoi4 veteran

[pine shale]

so im forced into playing one path to play the game thanks to divison designer wow nice feature

[prisma steppe]

you arent tho?

[lost tide]

Dawg learn how to design your divisions

New players genuinely piss me off atp

[prisma steppe]

meta divs are only needed in mp or against max buffed ai