hoi4-general

[primal timber]

russians declared on me

but so far they're delayed by this massive buffer on my border

[timid crest]

I remember the times when it's possible to have no factories on consumer goods

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[timid crest]

I think it's before 1.12

Hi

[ember vine]

You got it bro

[primal timber]

its not gone well for hitler has it

[hard depot]

I do have that interest of the Map mod of yours.....

Makes me wanna wonder what map mod that is

[ivory hull]

looks like red dusk

[hard depot]

I built a wall.

An amazing wall

A great wall

A wall of Railguns

[west jungle]

damn would rather a d day but ok

[primal timber]

peace conference

i am

almost certain the ai will make this look like eye cancer

so i'll have to manually shift some stuff here

that went a lot better than i imagined it would

who are you

where's adenauer

[lapis snow]

tf is this defence lmao

[stark condor]

@halcyon dirge you comming back? or

[hard depot]

We killed him.

No more Adenauer

[lilac ginkgo]

noo

he was the goat

[primal timber]

well that's bit of an annoyance

anders

i need you back out west

[lilac ginkgo]

what is this bro

does bro play millennium dawn

[safe wing]

OMG they killed Adenauer

[primal timber]

blast it

all in

[meager valley]

Minlagium Dawn

[primal timber]

i just noticed the italians are in my faction for

some reason

i didn't even capitulate them

why are you here

who invited victor emmanuel

aaand stalin just shot himself in the foot

classic

[slow token]

wbat is this beautiful map mod 💔

[pearl flume]

I just love HOI4

[safe wing]

I notice you didn’t call in Italy

I wonder why

[molten forge]

what does this mean?

[lilac ginkgo]

monarchy takes over

[molten forge]

got it

thanks

[lilac ginkgo]

np

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/the-king-hyrule-zelda-ytp-eyes-looking-gif-22475607

[stoic pendant]

is this a good tank?

[barren drum]

Just FPS map, no?

[slow token]

nah colors are too dark

[west jungle]

Im getting railed by max boosted sheeps mod axis

[lilac ginkgo]

could be

[west jungle]

but d day is coming in hot so its fine

[lapis snow]

That explains it

[lilac ginkgo]

but hes also got some mods for the RKs

[lapis snow]

Your army organisation still baffles me

[barren drum]

No, production cost is too high, reliability is way to low, not mentioning armor isn’t that great either

[lapis snow]

“Ah yes, completely overstack on a mid general under the 3rd worst field marshal the sovs have”

[stoic pendant]

so what should i change?

[west jungle]

I grinded him good lmao

[ivory hull]

use smth like this for an early tank

[lapis snow]

Vatutin is mid

[west jungle]

and i prefer saving the best defense guy for last stand meme anyway

[lapis snow]

Where Chuikov?

[west jungle]

dead

[lapis snow]

Why?!

He doesn’t get purged

[stoic pendant]

is this a better tank?

[lilac ginkgo]

its better but not that good

[west jungle]

dk think he got ill or smthn he didnt appear on the thing

someone might have snitched on him or smthn because i think thats random

[stoic pendant]

what should i change?

[lilac ginkgo]

use this design

or sometjing similar

[stoic pendant]

i dont got all the tech

[lapis snow]

I mean as long as paranoia doesn’t go to 30 you basically never get the random events

[lilac ginkgo]

you can get it

[ivory hull]

which tech are you missing?

[west jungle]

allies r throwing lovely

[lilac ginkgo]

dont rush a rank design especially if early game

[ivory hull]

a rushed tank is better than no tank

[stoic pendant]

its 1939

[lilac ginkgo]

actually no

[stoic pendant]

and im the usa

[ivory hull]

brother

[lilac ginkgo]

you re cooked

[ivory hull]

how can you even rush a "bad" tank

only ig by using like close support gun

[lilac ginkgo]

id rather not have a tank than rush myself and make a bad one

I can win with no tanks too

[stoic pendant]

i was waiting to get the artilltry

[ivory hull]

before that you already can produce your chassis tho

[stoic pendant]

good point

its 1938

not 1939

mb guys

and this is my new tank

[sage tiger]

Anyone want a No Step Back key?

I got a spare one

[ivory hull]

add a 2nd heavy machine gun

[lilac ginkgo]

sure

[ivory hull]

do 4 armor clicks

[stoic pendant]

ok

[lilac ginkgo]

I got none of the dlcs

[stoic pendant]

i would but i already have nsb

give it to @lilac ginkgo

[ivory hull]

and make it a spg

[stoic pendant]

whats that?

i dont know hoi4 tank jargon that well

[ivory hull]

change that to artillery

[stoic pendant]

oh

[ivory hull]

spgs are artillery tanks

give you more soft attack

45%

[stoic pendant]

im gonna use them to attack the germans though

[ivory hull]

ok?

and?

[stoic pendant]

german tanks

[ivory hull]

have barely any armor

[stoic pendant]

oh

[ivory hull]

the ai is shit

[stoic pendant]

yeah good point

[ivory hull]

if you have air

your also just fine

[stoic pendant]

i have some basic fighters

[barren drum]

You don't need much tanks early game, the initial designs should be more than sufficient for PVE run through.

[ivory hull]

make better ones

[barren drum]

If you must have early tank, something like this can be reasonable

[stoic pendant]

im planing on the allies doing a good bit of the work

but i will build my onw

[ivory hull]

yea probably no

dont rely on the ai

to help

[stoic pendant]

i need to finish getting self-sealing fuel tanks though

[ivory hull]

use this

[west jungle]

it might be joever

🙁

[bronze glade]

eu path is too goated 🙏

soviet union became my puppet 💀

just because of one decision

100 political power

[stoic pendant]

good unit?

[lilac ginkgo]

How did that happen

[lilac ginkgo]

Add more tanks to it maybe

To 34-36w

[stoic pendant]

1140 soft attack 😭 ✌️

[pearl flume]

Cause the war just started a few days ago

And also Italy is kinda useless

[stoic pendant]

what if you steal enemy weapons and sell them on the market using the engineer company?

[cursive oxide]

pain in the a run

[stoic pendant]

anything i should add before training these units?

[ivory hull]

its too big

and add support companies lol

[nova cedar]

What is the purpose of these, genuinely?

[stoic pendant]

attack i guess

i want to use them to win againist germany

[nova cedar]

Well follow Stevehdw16's advice and your good ig

[stoic pendant]

its meant to help push againist lots of germany units

[stoic pendant]

ok

[nova cedar]

What nation you playing as?

[lilac ginkgo]

not gonna work

They re too big

[ivory hull]

just use this

[nova cedar]

What kind of graphics pack do I need to have icons like that?

[ivory hull]

huh?

[lilac ginkgo]

its vanilla

[ivory hull]

thats base game

wdym

[nova cedar]

Really?

[ivory hull]

yea

[nova cedar]

Doesn't look like that for me...
I'll see ig.

[stoic pendant]

ok

[nova cedar]

How many of these statistics do actually matter 😭🙏

[lilac ginkgo]

Alot

[ivory hull]

a lot bro

[nova cedar]

And what are the ones I should look out for the most?

[ivory hull]

soft attack

organization

hp

[stoic pendant]

i removed the 5th row

[ivory hull]

combat width

[ivory hull]

make it 36 width

[stoic pendant]

how?

[nova cedar]

Combat width

[ivory hull]

wdym how

add or remove battalions

so its 36w

[stoic pendant]

oh

[nova cedar]

And with Navy? 🫠

[ivory hull]

just spam torpedo destroyers

[nova cedar]

Ok

[bronze glade]

it's just 1941

[nova cedar]

But I can do actual ships against AI right?

[lilac ginkgo]

Do you have a template for it

[bronze glade]

eu is overpowered

almost of them are my puppets

[lilac ginkgo]

honestly usually I use crap mass spam of shit kill the UK and use their navy

[bronze glade]

all of them

[lilac ginkgo]

because im not good with navy

[ivory hull]

make a destroyer and put as many torpedos on it as you can

[lilac ginkgo]

oh

its that easy

[nova cedar]

I mean I have templates but no clue if they're any good (I play only single player because my wifi is Abysmal like that)

[ivory hull]

send them

[nova cedar]

Gimme a sec

[lilac ginkgo]

honestly all of these spgs tanks space Marines seem useless

all you need is a good infantry

template

[ivory hull]

space marines aren useless

just cheesy

[lilac ginkgo]

Well

It gets the same job done

Maybe abit faster

[ivory hull]

but in different ways

like manpower losses/equipment losses etc

[lilac ginkgo]

sure

they re good if you re a mid nation

[nova cedar]

1936 (Idk what I tried to do it's been a while since I made them)

[ivory hull]

only build destroyers lwk

[lilac ginkgo]

but as germany I can just use 100 36w 18/0 divs and just win

[nova cedar]

But I want it to look good and stuff

And I only play against AI either way

[lilac ginkgo]

and some port holders

[ivory hull]

if you have air your fine as any nation with manpower

[lilac ginkgo]

Honestly

[ivory hull]

building any capital ships is usally a waste

[nova cedar]

Yeah air is so busted.

[nova cedar]

But I can still build them, right?

For that weird historical RP or sum

[ivory hull]

its not the best way of doing navy but yea

[lilac ginkgo]

I can't do airforce because I dont have any dlcs

So I use the standard template

which sucks

[nova cedar]

Ouch

[strong goblet]

Should i even build airforce if i cant outproduce ai

[lilac ginkgo]

so my last Germany game

I just didnt have an airforce and I still took over most of the world

[ivory hull]

if you have the dlc then yes

[nova cedar]

Yes, if you build actually good planes it doesn't matter too much.

[lilac ginkgo]

With just 36w inf

[west jungle]

sheep mod german tanks + they had so much cas there inf could easily push mine and i only had line aa in my tanks

[nova cedar]

Historically accurate Soviet Union but it went 1000% worse for them

[strong goblet]

i build planes from pinned message in #ask-for-help-here

[nova cedar]

Idk if they are any good.

Could you send the template?

[ivory hull]

the pinned ones are good

[merry compass]

Is it possible to Sanctions other countries with my navy

[lilac ginkgo]

You can convoy raid

or embargo people but that wont do much

[merry compass]

Do i have to be at war with the country That own the convoy?

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah

And convoy raiding basically ruins their trade

But they'll probably send a navy in too

As long as yours is better you should win

[wide osprey]

you can blockade them

[ivory hull]

you can blockade

[wide osprey]

not sure what this actually doing

[ivory hull]

blocking trade

[lilac ginkgo]

yea

[ivory hull]

basically raiding ig

[wide osprey]

🤯

can i somehow see its effects

[merry compass]

If i say god bless America will i get ban from the server?

[lilac ginkgo]

blockade them wait abit then use the console to switch to the nation and look at their production

[wide osprey]

design is very intuitive and accessible

[safe wing]

No

[merry compass]

God bless you mr.mangler

[safe wing]

Just don’t glaze the Nazis and you will be fine

[wide osprey]

may god bless us all 🙏

[merry compass]

I'am a atheist

[nova cedar]

Common sense:

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

erm

and people (no one) wonder why i play vnr

navy balance update when

[worn cliff]

can i survive this faction alone as france

[pine shale]

thoughts on victoria 3

[prisma steppe]

peak, but too unoptimised and buggy

[pine shale]

its so confusing tho

[prisma steppe]

thats the charm

its so confusing its very hard to min-max

[lost dawn]

I am sorry for what I am about to do, chad

[pine shale]

i cant even understand the basics

[prisma steppe]

in theory, get urself a cheat-mod for moneys, then its just throw at money at the problem till it works

[prisma steppe]

then you slowly learn

[prisma steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2883019620

[deep sun]

@tacit heart you guys start

i cant join

connection time out

[dry sleet]

Japan not doing great

[winter willow]

https://tenor.com/view/sbd-midway-dauntless-shoot-gif-16003366

[fair horizon]

Lost a heavy cruiser? Smh

Throw the whole fleet away if you messed up that bad

[sudden thistle]

Very fun

Not that hard to learn as well

[pine shale]

bro wth its confusing af

or atleast i find it to be

[prisma steppe]

i build supply chain & eco = eco kills itself after 1 year

[patent thistle]

same could be said in my game lol

[prisma steppe]

also kills off my army & recruitment

[patent thistle]

i could guess that the heavy cruisers were coastal defense ships japan starts with

🤷‍♂️

[prisma steppe]

Tuva, huh?

[rain loom]

If I had anti air in divisions as Japan, could it in theory kill china quicker?

[prisma steppe]

no, if they had tanks or air, yes

[rain loom]

Ok

Th

x

[sudden thistle]

That tracks

[sudden thistle]

Green number good

Big green number with building, build it

[prisma steppe]

why is green number green but deficit -90k

[pine shale]

bro there's so many systems, and politics and different systems its so complex

[sudden thistle]

Which deficit

[grave sonnet]

Green good everything else = bad

[sudden thistle]

Meh u can ignore some of them

[prisma steppe]

i never got money

[sudden thistle]

Like I have never used that feature that u screenshotted

[sudden thistle]

For income?

[pine shale]

so u dont really know how to play the game

[prisma steppe]

debt is a death spiral

[sudden thistle]

Says the one who can’t even do the tutorial

[sudden thistle]

Stop spending then

When u build

U pay construction sectors

[pine shale]

ur the one claiming game is easy but turns out u play like 5% of it

[sudden thistle]

And also pay for goods u have deficits in

[prisma steppe]

but i have minimised my spending, i have no subsidies, no army, no navy, minimal administriaion

[worn cliff]

is it even possible to survive this

[prisma steppe]

btw siam in '70s my eco always dies

[sudden thistle]

Like if ur construction sectors need 24 steel, u produce 20, u pay for 4 steel as well as paying the construction sectors to build

[prisma steppe]

i cant get my literacy up no matter what aswell

[sudden thistle]

Did u change all the methods for building?

[patent thistle]

lets be honest the soviets are still gonna lose the cold war even after that expansion

[prisma steppe]

as i said i had full autocracy achieved in the '60s then the eco crashes for no reason in the '70s

[sudden thistle]

How does that one feature count as 95% of the game

[sudden thistle]

Well I can’t help much if that’s all you say

Good deficits

[pine shale]

u dont even know this panel bro

[sudden thistle]

A tax or eco law?

[prisma steppe]

i modernise, but i cant keep up with the literacy rate of the ai

[sudden thistle]

Hm

[prisma steppe]

highest ive gotten is 40% by 1868

[sudden thistle]

And why were u playing Siam of all countries

[prisma steppe]

ai meanwhile got like 60-70% in china

[sudden thistle]

Ok I have never seen that before wtf

[prisma steppe]

idk siam sounds fun tbh, not really colonised, is minor power with weaker neigborgs

[prisma steppe]

and then japan comes around with 97% literacy somehow

[sudden thistle]

Japan has best literacy at game start anyways

[sudden thistle]

Have u played bigger countries before?

[prisma steppe]

honestly i tried, but its just not fun

[sudden thistle]

The ottomans are a really fun mid bigger country

[prisma steppe]

huh

[sudden thistle]

Half ur game is fixing the empire and if u screw up u need to restart

[prisma steppe]

the sick individual of europe?

[sudden thistle]

Yes

The hardest part is getting the Levant anyways

[prisma steppe]

ok on another point, does somebody have a nation that relies on navy, yet doesnt have one at the start of the game?

in hoi not vicy

[sudden thistle]

Not have a navy as in 0 ships or very little

[prisma steppe]

less then greece

[sudden thistle]

Ummm

Australia?

Hm

[prisma steppe]

is there a modded focus tree for it?

[sudden thistle]

Somewhere yeah

Every country has a modded tree

[prisma steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3492002134&searchtext=australia found one

[rain loom]

Invest in 5 super heavies before 1941 and you will win every time

From focus tree

[prisma steppe]

what should i do as australia? commie or historical?

[safe wing]

Anything but historical

[lost dawn]

I have found a new sense of appreciation for nuclear weapons in the game

[restive sable]

nuking nepal of all countries

what'd nepal do to you 😭😭

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok defensive division

?

[storm thunder]

cant trust them

[lost dawn]

Not just Nepal.

And there is a lot more where that came from

[winged field]

normal recon is useless

[lost dawn]

Isn't it beautiful?

[cedar lance]

hello

yalls

[quasi osprey]

but it adds 14 defense should I still get rid of it?

[ember vine]

The USA when a barely inhabited chunk of land turns communist:

[winged field]

thats nothing, also the width is weird

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[storm thunder]

somethin like that

[winged field]

if they would be mountaineers 24-25 sure. With normal holding infantry stick to 18w

[quasi osprey]

oh ok I just wanted it to be an org wall kinda but ok

[winged field]

either go full 34-36w bricks or stick to 18

[prisma steppe]

is that a 1984 refrence?!?!?

[quasi osprey]

but now arent they worse

[quasi osprey]

will the 34-36w function well?

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/literally-gif-12877207057632949530

[misty fossil]

obviously

just do 36

[quasi osprey]

ok

[misty fossil]

its possible to reach 67 cw i think

[winged field]

Sure but you want to fill out width optimally too, 18w does that most of the time

[misty fossil]

better*

[wide osprey]

😭 😭 😭

[winged field]

as a inf brick sure

[misty fossil]

statistically you get more combined org in a defensive battle with lower cw divs

[lost dawn]

?

[lost dawn]

What

[winged field]

for attack you want it to have at least 200 breakthrough

[wide osprey]

i see pixels 😭

[winged field]

eventually

[quasi osprey]

just I will be fighting with the soviets against germany and I think having lots of org and hp should protect me well

[lost dawn]

Okay and?

[wide osprey]

huh

[winged field]

what country u playing as?

[quasi osprey]

lithuania

[winged field]

just keep in mind your manpower is limited

so dont expect having a lot of inf bricks

[quasi osprey]

not really I am only lacking in trucks and trains

[winged field]

maybe like 12-13 divisions ig

[winged field]

then sure

[smoky tide]

Just came back to the game after not playing since the italy dlc - so much new stuff!

Any top things to check out?

[quasi osprey]

I am not sure how I shouls defend myself I can either just place everyone on the border and hope for the best or lose half the country and about a third of the industry but have a big river to stop the germans

[smoky tide]

Oh btw small question - trying mass mob italy. Should i even be trying to put artillery and support gear in my infantry or just try and drown them in naked infantry blobs?

Never tried this doctrine xD

[misty fossil]

dont do mass mob

mass mob sucks after ncns

[smoky tide]

Bruh

[misty fossil]

just do grand battleplan with 36cw infantry blocks (18 inf battalions with support companies) and a lot of air

dont do line arty, just support arty is perfect

[grave sonnet]

GBP goat

[fiery hound]

whats the best dlc bundle for the steam version

[misty fossil]

refund the game is a good bundle

[misty fossil]

idk what you were expecting

what you want me to tell you to do artillery only?

i wont stop you

[smoky tide]

For the glorious fire in the hearts of the italian people to be enough to carry us to victory

[fiery hound]

roger that

[smoky tide]

And to somehow telll me my plan to do naked max infantry blobs with mega air support will work

😭

[south parcel]

Why arent my training ships gaining any exp?

[prisma steppe]

who thought this is a good idea

[fair horizon]

You're gonna lose a lot of men

[fair horizon]

Do you have fuel?

[south parcel]

Yepp

[smoky tide]

My buddy is doing tank heavy germany so my plan was mostly just to hold and eat supply

[fair horizon]

Are they allowed access to where they're training? Sometimes they get a port halfway across the world and give up on training.

[south parcel]

Yeah. They go and train but 0 progress

[lost dawn]

These nukes really are cool to play with

[fair horizon]

Cancel all their orders and switch their base then try again

If i had to guess you have a patrol order somewhere across the world

Thats usually what stops me

[worn cliff]

france vs world

[south parcel]

Thanks

[mellow mirage]

is it ever really worth having support companies that arent field hospitals in defensive infantry?

[merry compass]

I'm playing as soviet and i go down the path offer poland protection and now poland is at war with the reich do i need to help them?

[fair horizon]

AA and Artillery

Signal can be nice too

[prisma steppe]

👀

[mellow mirage]

alr ty

[sudden thistle]

Hol up this is kinda fire

[mellow mirage]

is that a TAOG thing?

[prisma steppe]

MTG rework is fire, i can commision ships and actually get them in time

[snow rain]

-10% cap and -5% recruitable pop factor is sooo bad

[quasi osprey]

for some reason germany has war goals against the soviet union but are not doing barbarossa for now

[mellow mirage]

ive seen that, last time it happened to me romania declared on the soviets so it will eventually happen

[clever shuttle]

no other then wojtek deserves to lead my best army

[rain loom]

is this good (its nov 1937)?

[lilac ginkgo]

Kinda

[rain loom]

ok cool

i though i was bad at the game :/

[lilac ginkgo]

As long as you win

Its fine

and you clearly are

[rain loom]

ah ok 👍

[quasi osprey]

moving most of my industry north and east because Germany will soon do a big oopsie-woopsie called operation Barbarossa😅

[prisma steppe]

why does right to bear arms increase pop?!?!?

[lilac ginkgo]

Who are you

[cursive oxide]

@lost dawn how did you get italy so big ?

[quasi osprey]

lithuania(baltic ssr)

[lilac ginkgo]

More people move to your nation when they can freely use guns

[snow rain]

you see, when a mommy gun and a daddy gun love eachother very much ...

[lost dawn]

Too much pizza

[lilac ginkgo]

or that

[lost dawn]

and olive oil

[rain loom]

OMG THEY CAPPED

IN DEC 37

YAY

[lilac ginkgo]

very good

[rain loom]

thx

[lilac ginkgo]

now there's this guy called America

that you have to kill

[prisma steppe]

hmm

[rain loom]

i alr researched super heavy battleships

on it

[lilac ginkgo]

what country is bro playing us

are you american samoa

[quasi osprey]

also building forts and anti air because I cant afford to lose this defensive line

[lilac ginkgo]

well yea

its the meta

but its gonna be harder when you re not integrated

[opal nymph]

Remember forts are fragile

[prisma steppe]

nah we playin commie new zealand

[opal nymph]

They may let you hold for a bit, but they like to shatter

[lilac ginkgo]

thats worse

than Samoa

[quasi osprey]

If I lose this line my army wont be able to hold at all probab;y

[cursive oxide]

[quasi osprey]

you dont have gotterdamerung?

[lilac ginkgo]

and that folks, is the start of the end of an era

[cursive oxide]

nope

[rain loom]

thats what i call a speedrun

why did it scale like that 💀

[lilac ginkgo]

In all fairness china is weak

[rain loom]

i mean

[mild basin]

sooo time to invade tibet?

[lilac ginkgo]

they make it weaker than irl

[restive sable]

mainly cause of their insane equipment deficit

[lilac ginkgo]

yea

[rain loom]

im gonna build like 5 super heavies

to explode america

[lilac ginkgo]

they have 80 divs but nothing to them

[restive sable]

-33K guns or something like that on the start

[lilac ginkgo]

yep

[quasi osprey]

😩 why so soon..

[lilac ginkgo]

and you make close to none

[quasi osprey]

I didnt even have time to max out the anti-air

[mild basin]

best of luck

[restive sable]

the new tree doesnt exactly give you lots of free mils either

[lilac ginkgo]

yea

so you ve got a big ass starting army but then they dont have guns

so whats the point of having an army if they dont do anything other than walk

[rain loom]

slow the enemy down

[prisma steppe]

why does this happen every single time

[restive sable]

and you loose men and equipment in the process

[lilac ginkgo]

historical?

[prisma steppe]

yes

[lilac ginkgo]

what version

[rain loom]

china has no equipment to lose

[restive sable]

yeah but it cant afford to lose guns

[prisma steppe]

modded tho, i think one of the mods broke the german ai

[lilac ginkgo]

older versions used to always make Germany declare war on Luxembourg or the US and do nothing for the rest of the game

[lost dawn]

Close to a world conquest yet?

[lilac ginkgo]

Or that

[lost dawn]

Or are you still not happy

[lilac ginkgo]

you ve still got a long way to go son

[lost dawn]

I'll continue then

[lilac ginkgo]

ok

[quasi osprey]

1942😐

[lilac ginkgo]

what happened

[rain loom]

simulating irl

[lost dawn]

Not at all

(I am doing a much cleaner job)

[quasi osprey]

how much does this affect defense?

[rain loom]

ah

[quasi osprey]

because alll of my units are entrenched but idk what it does

[lilac ginkgo]

it gives them better defense

Logically

[quasi osprey]

how much better

[lilac ginkgo]

depends on the entrenched

Entrenchment

[quasi osprey]

30%

[lilac ginkgo]

but overall better

[lilac ginkgo]

son

no

are youbfyslesix

you dyslexic

[quasi osprey]

wdym they are 30% entrenched

[lilac ginkgo]

average defensive combat is 30

son

[quasi osprey]

and how to figure out entrenchment?

[lilac ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-so-cooked-gif-11199807318849761981

no clue

[quasi osprey]

oh its 10 entrenchment

[lilac ginkgo]

good job

but thats one unit

not your actual entrenchment on the frontlines

[quasi osprey]

isn't when I click on the div it showes the actual entrenchment?

[lilac ginkgo]

Son

Hover over the blue bar on the left

Also there's that shovel icon

[wide osprey]

WHAT THE HELL
DID THEY JUST PARADROP

AI CAN PARADROP??????????

[lilac ginkgo]

the ai just got smarter

it learnt new things by itself

[clever shuttle]

guysss lesgoooooo

[wide osprey]

🤯 🤯 🤯

[lilac ginkgo]

is this a concern

[opal nymph]

Wait what

Not an event spawn?

[mellow mirage]

gng whats best to prioritise for medium tanks/the best medium tank design (for a "major")

[clever shuttle]

this is what im talking about

[lilac ginkgo]

mo

no

[clever shuttle]

wdym u dont like wotjek

[lilac ginkgo]

depends

would he maul me if I was next to him?yes

do i like him?yes

[opal nymph]

Just give him some alcohol and cigs. He enjoyed those

[clever shuttle]

yes

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah that's gonna be better because he'll unconsciously maul me instead

like that makes it better

hes gonna feel less guilty once im into pieces

[clever shuttle]

have an polish shirt on you

[lilac ginkgo]

I would but he'd confuse it for Monaco or something

or Indonesia

and id still get mauled

[clever shuttle]

dont care he has an 20% stability and 20% war support boost

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

good for him

[sudden thistle]

Holy shit that’s new

[wide osprey]

hm

not sure

🧐

maybe

maybe yeah

[lilac ginkgo]

its your mod

maybe your war made it so some troops spawned behind enemy lines

that can happen

[wide osprey]

it's not my mod

i'm playing eaw

[shell sorrel]

Soft attack and breakthrough, same as anything else

[mellow mirage]

alr ty

[mellow nimbus]

somethin isnt lining up

[sudden thistle]

Bro rlly thought we wouldn’t notice Greece missing

[mellow nimbus]

i dont have the dlc

[winged field]

emperor is just tsundere tbh

[ember vine]

Benito needs a more square jaw

[prisma steppe]

ffs not again

[ember vine]

Hirohito turned into a catgirl

[mellow nimbus]

what does this mean

[acoustic marten]

you created a frontline with no divisions assigned to it

[wise steppe]

when ur doing berlin-moscow axis and USSR leaves to form faction with bulgaria so you have to make this beautiful faction to entice them back

[analog bloom]

man i wonder who the mod is trying to make me pick

[acoustic marten]

all are kinda bad, you should promote a field commander and use him instead, the lower the stat numbers the better

[fair horizon]

Mackensen obv

[static grove]

Hello, what is that module?

[fair horizon]

HMG secondary weapon

[static grove]

Oh tx

[molten forge]

quick question

if am south africa and i wanna get to europe without the allis

how do i do that?

cause for what i wanna do i need naval supremacy in 4 seas, 3 of which i cannot reach

[misty fossil]

hi

seems like a camera

[sudden thistle]

March up to North Africa

[frank locust]

hey
i don't have any fuel for the end of the spanish civil war is it important ?

[sudden thistle]

And use med

Or u can go through turkey if u don’t want boats

[lilac ginkgo]

depends

but if you dont have tanks or anything like that is fine

also ground your planes

[exotic stratus]

anyone wanna join the game dm me

[frank locust]

nope

[frank locust]

true ty

[severe lion]

MUSSOLINI MARRY ME

[opaque kayak]

any tips for standing a chanse against the russians as finland? Its 1936 rn

[rain loom]

its 1938 btw

i gun greeded

[quasi osprey]

my defense l ines are kinda working

[opaque kayak]

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[south abyss]

Should I join the war with japan as commie china

[quasi osprey]

I have a 1:42 casualty ratio with germany

[rain loom]

holy casualty ratio

irl finland be like

[south abyss]

I have 10 divs and only 2 of them dont suck but I get debuffs if I dont join

[tender portal]

AHHHH

mod:empire into the orient

[smoky burrow]

paradox should fix hoi4s difficulty system

its like giving a baby gradually bigger guns and trying to fight it blindfolded

[opaque kayak]

Genuenly i cannot comprehend whats on my screen 😭

[molten forge]

how?

[sudden thistle]

Fight allies in Africa

[molten forge]

alright

tbf

am playing alt hist

[molten forge]

so Britain is going the kings route

[quasi osprey]

I dont even have the brainpower to calculate this casualty ratio

[molten forge]

@sudden thistle do you think i would be able to take out all of britain out of africa?

[supple halo]

The population still increases as normal next month. 💔

[sudden thistle]

By attacking

[lost dawn]

Not if I have any say in the matter

[molten forge]

yea

[sudden thistle]

Just abuse supply

And all that fun stuff

[molten forge]

true, my idea is to annex belgium and portugal

[lost dawn]

I will take Manchuria as if my name is MacArthur.

[supple halo]

1147:14

About 103:1 KD.

[lost dawn]

Ah.... I love this game

[grave sonnet]

How hearts of iron 4 players feel after Obliterating some random poor nation with high tech weapons

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-bonaparte-napoleon-bonaparte-france-gif-8792903734324854083

[lost dawn]

You don't understand

I've been working towards this point for hours

I am almost free

[tender portal]

a wolrd war Bud

[opaque kayak]

I will trust your word

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mussolini-serious--k01KRVATJQGY4S2NSVPA460MH30

[supple halo]

Bro might be aura farming…

[grave sonnet]

Ic but still my point stands thats legit how most players feel after Obliterating some random nation

But yeah

Good job 👍🏻

[winged field]

he is such a cootie pattootie

[supple halo]

REAL

Average Franco enjoyer:
🗿

[winged field]

For a second I thought u meant France

I was gasping

[lost dawn]

It is done.

https://giphy.com/gifs/zCME2Cd20Czvy

No more independent nations

only Rome

[winged field]

there is that purple thing still

it should be red...

[lost dawn]

You mean my puppet?

[winged field]

yea

Cuz you wont get that sweet 100% conquest now

[rain loom]

holy op

YES ACHIEVEMENTS IS ON LETS GOOOO

[grave sonnet]

Ceaser would be proud

[frank locust]

plssss how tf am i meant to finish them

[ivory hull]

get supply?

[frank locust]

spanish civil war

[ocean obsidian]

So whatever Japan be doing

[astral forum]

[lost dawn]

Better now?

[ivory hull]

and dont just battleplan into them

[frank locust]

wdym ?

[grave sonnet]

He can also try naval invading behind...

[grave sonnet]

Don't press that green arrow

[ivory hull]

dont attack when you already have no equipment and or supply

[grave sonnet]

On Ur generals

[ivory hull]

holy

[frank locust]

owh

yea kinda new to the game srr

[grave sonnet]

If a man don't got no bread to eat he's gonna be weak

[rain loom]

still in production 💀

[frank locust]

so ig not put all my army at the same place then ?

[grave sonnet]

Yes because supply becomes a problem

And also don't battle plan

And when you wanna atac

Used the plan offensive

[frank locust]

yep

ty

[grave sonnet]

Np 👍🏻

[dreamy ether]

is this good for a new player

[ivory hull]

you cheated

so probably not?

[dreamy ether]

you can cheat

[grave sonnet]

You either not new to the game

[ivory hull]

yea you did

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-talking-ben-talking-tom-gif-8188696465196440389

[ivory hull]

90 million manpower

[grave sonnet]

Ur making it more obvious

[ivory hull]

thats not italy

[manic iris]

guys i wanna start a new game any ideas

[fathom solstice]

Hi

[manic iris]

how does one achieve 90 million manpower

[manic iris]

ello

[grave sonnet]

Through the power of pizza and pasta

[quiet vessel]

italy prepared for ww2

[grave sonnet]

Halo

[manic iris]

😭

[hoary glen]

italy has a core europe focus tree

[manic iris]

i wanna start a new save chat any ideas

[grave sonnet]

Rexist Belgium

[manic iris]

okay something maybe a bit easier i still have 80 hours 😭

[grave sonnet]

Oh shit mb

Didn't know

[manic iris]

i REALLY wanna play uk but i SUCKKK at navy

[grave sonnet]

I played UK

I used navy

For the invasion of France and Japan only

You just get overpowered

You can core US

& europe

[manic iris]

i build ships for 20 years and still when i press navy thing i have 4 boats

[grave sonnet]

And ur colonize cores

[manic iris]

dont u need navy to do that

[grave sonnet]

I'm talking about the advantages of the UK brotha

[manic iris]

how do i even attack in europe whithout a good navy

[grave sonnet]

Just knockout France

Easy gateway

They cap easily

You can kill them easily

And good industry to take

[manic iris]

so i dont need to be good at navy for UK

[quasi osprey]

For some reason germany doesnt respect my army and left a few barely alive divs on my border🧐

[lilac ginkgo]

No

[grave sonnet]

You already have it

You dont need

[lilac ginkgo]

Your starting navy is better than what the ai has

[manic iris]

guys i genuenly somehow start with 10 boats i end up with 2 somehow

[grave sonnet]

And considering you probably won't need to naval invade

[manic iris]

i put em on patrol and a second later BOOM

[grave sonnet]

Only ones you gonna invade

Are Japan and France

[manic iris]

i hate japan omg

[lilac ginkgo]

Even if you do,you dont have to build a navy

you have one

[grave sonnet]

Yeah what you start with can KO the ai easily

[manic iris]

i dont rlly understand naval invasions much its either they succed or dont they are hard to do

[high karma]

Just entered the server... Guess there might be some channel of the server to post server links for private matches or events?

[grave sonnet]

You can paradrop if it's hard

And considering that paradroping has that effect that de orgs everything

Yeah

[manic iris]

i wish i had some damn DLCS its getting kinda boring whithout them

[quasi osprey]

isnt this focus a bit.. too strong for lithuania?

[grave sonnet]

Once you see the prices ur gonna think otherwise

[grave sonnet]

No

They deserve it

[manic iris]

😭

[quasi osprey]

why it adds 2 civs 3 mils and 2 dockyards for 70 a day focus

[manic iris]

ok guys i have a bad thing i do is that i play eevry nation the same

[grave sonnet]

Lithuania people are just that good at making factories

[manic iris]

is there a diffrence from uh germany tactics and ussr and UK tactics and italy

[grave sonnet]

Yes duh

Different strat for different nations

[quasi osprey]

can you tell me if this is an ok casualty ratio?

[manic iris]

whats strat for UK

[grave sonnet]

Mid /j

[grave sonnet]

Go Fascist or Democratic

I would go fascist

Because it's better

[manic iris]

ima bring back british empire?

[grave sonnet]

Do Ur civil war

Cheese it to get all puppets

[quasi osprey]

ok at first it was 10:1 now its around 80:1

[manic iris]

should i do ahistorical

i hate historical

[grave sonnet]

Get wargoal on Ireland which France SHOULD guarantee

Naval invade france

Then build a shit ton of troops

Invade US

[manic iris]

CALM DOWN 😭

[grave sonnet]

Make North American dominion

Invade mexico

[manic iris]

should my world be ahistorical

[grave sonnet]

Historical is better for me since ion want the ultra Chinese United Front forming with Yugoslavia and German Italy that's a puppet of Albania somejow

[grave sonnet]

I did mine with historical

I dislike ahistorical

Too much bs

[manic iris]

ima do historical

lets try ironman also

[grave sonnet]

Iron is Bassicly basic game

[manic iris]

i tried ahist as ussr and france and czecoslavia and usa and uk was fighting against the axis then uk became union berlin (communistt) and attacked me

[grave sonnet]

Only difference is

When you make a mistake

You don't turn back.

[manic iris]

should i do it hm

[grave sonnet]

I like it because it forces me to learn from my mistakes

[manic iris]

ima do it

[grave sonnet]

Aight

[manic iris]

bc if i dont i just go into the cmnd pannel and delete others troops

[quasi osprey]

if germany stals by may 1942 can it mean that they will probably not advance much further?

[grave sonnet]

Check how much eq they lost

But yeah when Germany starts stalling

That either means

[quasi osprey]

how do I check that?

[grave sonnet]

They have 0 equipment and gave up

[grave sonnet]

Battle log

(the paper)

Also why does Italy own Bosnia

They got my homeland 😭

[manic iris]

what do i do here

[quasi osprey]

idk it only shows how much equipment I destroyed not the soviets

[manic iris]

i do this one the blackshirts one right

[grave sonnet]

Well yeah I wanted to see how much you destroyed

Btw did you set it to all time

Or just the months

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

[manic iris]

i dont do the decolonisation paths right

i dont want that

[quasi osprey]

I destroyed a huge amount compared to what I lost and the german strength bars are not that high

[manic iris]

reinforce the empire

[quasi osprey]

12 months so its enough for the war stats

[grave sonnet]

Ic but yeah

Let them ram into you

They will just lose more

[manic iris]

right?

[grave sonnet]

And you will gain more

[lost dawn]

Never do "revisit colonial policy".

[manic iris]

thank u'

[quasi osprey]

they are a 80:1 death ratio will not go well for the germans

[grave sonnet]

Mb for not responding...:(

[grave sonnet]

I remember when I played Finland önce

Crazy ratio

2 milion Russians to like

100K finns

[manic iris]

no its fine lol

whats the DLC that likes make the faction tab better

[quasi osprey]

yeah when u let the AI fight finland it doesnt go well I once saw AI finland not get defeated at all

[manic iris]

ok so i either do fascist, communist or non aligned

hm

[quasi osprey]

probably not communist

[pine shale]

sup im new to this game

[manic iris]

yea i dont want union of britain

is non aligned good

[pine shale]

i need to watch a combat tutorial ofr this game but im too lazy bruh

[lost dawn]

AS long as you don't go communist... any nation can be fun

[quasi osprey]

I think its ok but the strongest is prob either fascist or just democratic and do imperial federation if u can

[pine shale]

millenium dawn is the best mod ever

[manic iris]

whats imperial federation

[quasi osprey]

it basically cores most of your dominions

[manic iris]

whats wrong with communism

ah well too late i did change of course

ima go fascist

[quasi osprey]

I think it cores canada india and some other stuff

[manic iris]

thats democratic right

ill do it next time

[quasi osprey]

no it just requires u to go the reinforce the empire path too

[grave sonnet]

I was once playing Spain and I see "Fall of Leningrad"😭

[grave sonnet]

Balls

You lose Ur colonise

[quasi osprey]

it is best with democracy if you get lord halifax if I remember correctly

[grave sonnet]

And yeah it sucks

[manic iris]

oh yea ima do this then

btw if i do fascism do i loose my colonises

colonies

[frank locust]

i moved most of my army but still no supplies and i still can't figure out how to navy

[grave sonnet]

Cheese...

[pine shale]

pls remove navy from this game

[manic iris]

?

[manic iris]

FORREAL 😭

[grave sonnet]

Cheese it

[quasi osprey]

I think the dominions like canada british raj and south africa will get independence but all land that u directly control will stay

[frank locust]

and theres fkin mexican sending me weapons wth

[grave sonnet]

When Ur close to defeating the UK

Or the other UK

Declare war on all the cooloniae

Since yk

They are in the allies

And pulpets

Puppets*

So you declare war on them

[manic iris]

and what happends

[grave sonnet]

And get them in the peace deal

And annex them

And you don't lose them

[manic iris]

smart

ima do that

[grave sonnet]

But don't puppet them

DO not

Puppet them

Since they just break off

[manic iris]

wont it take time to declare war

[sudden thistle]

No

[manic iris]

since i need to justify

[grave sonnet]

But when you conquer north America

And Mexico

[manic iris]

"if:

[grave sonnet]

Release canada

[sudden thistle]

U don’t need to justify

[grave sonnet]

(make sure you are in a faction)

[manic iris]

oh alr bet

[grave sonnet]

Make north amerika

[quasi osprey]

I think for some countries communism is a good choice like lithuania rn I am playing as lithuania and I have 72 factories and 700k manpower in the field

[grave sonnet]

And defeat Canada

[sudden thistle]

When ur at war with overlord u don’t need war goals on puppets

[grave sonnet]

And then do imperial federation

To get cores on US

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[manic iris]

oh so i do imperial federation later

[grave sonnet]

Do imperial federation after you defeat the North Amerikan dominion

Since it will have cores on US

And it has the Canada tag

Which will make it count to being a puppet

[manic iris]

what is that US and mexico?

[grave sonnet]

And then you get cores on US

[quasi osprey]

it is best to do it with democratic lord halifax it makes so that u dont have to do the focus that makes british raj slowly go independent

[grave sonnet]

Only US

And Canada

You take Mexico