hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

did you check the terrain debuffs

[wet flicker]

I'll switch that out for flame tanks too

[brittle cypress]

the stats are very low

#ask-for-help-here message
here's some inspiration

[uneven marlin]

Yeah, I was going to say, he might want to look at his tanks.

But the division itself isn't bad.

[brittle cypress]

you should always use all 5 support companies on tanks imo

[wet flicker]

thats what i thought too

[brittle cypress]

don't worry about the org

[brittle cypress]

it's a tank with less than 300 soft attack that is bad

[uneven marlin]

29.2, it's fine, just add it anyways.

[wet flicker]

tbf its 29.2 but i dont know if that makes a big difference or not

[uneven marlin]

It's like a .1 difference, and you get anti aircraft, it's fine.

[brittle cypress]

you should definitely go for flame tanks and armored engineers if you can cause they're really good too

swap motorized recon for light tank recon or ranger recon

[misty fossil]

armoured engi or assault engi

[misty fossil]

i would pick assault

[brittle cypress]

i forgot there was two

you're right assault is better

[wet flicker]

That's what im going for rn to replace the whatchamacallit

[uneven marlin]

And just as a side note, attempt to make those 40 widths in the future, 30 widths is for like the Phony-War period, but, that can wait for later.

[misty fossil]

yeah no

[wet flicker]

The recon support

[uneven marlin]

Have 2 heavy machine guns.

[wet flicker]

Yessir

[uneven marlin]

Don't worry about speed above 6.0

[wet flicker]

That's what I wanted to do now but i can only afford to do a 30w for now

[craggy trail]

[brittle cypress]

hoi4 is realistic in the sense that it isn't. you gotta make something more like this for tanks to work

cheaper and way more stats

[uneven marlin]

And replace wet ammunition storage with easy maintenance (Unlocked via getting maintenance companies).

[brittle cypress]

you don't have to do the torsion bar and negative speed

just look at the top bars

those are the important parts

howitzer and 2 hmgs + riveted armor

[misty fossil]

riveted armour
knock speed down to 6-7kph (six seven!!!!!) since it's really so trivial
max armour ticks
pick medium gun two once you get it since medium 1 sucks
radio 3
replace sloped armour and extra ammo with two secondary cannons
keep reliability at 60% minimum

[brittle cypress]

radio is cool too but i guess they didn't want to put it in the design where i stole this from

[uneven marlin]

Just listen to this comment, it pretty much sums it up.

[misty fossil]

personally i wouldnt do arty tanks tbh

[craggy trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397685828976775309/1469617380463214769/1467248744851574804.gif

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/67-edit-fast-meme-gif-618364562054521562

i would have used heavy TDs and its relevant subdoctrine picks but oh well its too late

i love HTDs

[brittle cypress]

heavy tds in singleplayer why lol

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/jagdtiger-tank-ww2-german-german-tank-gif-4561830449878455577

[wet flicker]

They're really good for defense but trash for offense imo

[brittle cypress]

8000 hard attack tank division vs an underequipped 12w ai light tank division

[misty fossil]

exemplar use of free will

[misty fossil]

eaw made tanks and mechs absolutely broken

[wet flicker]

When i run arty tanks this is my tank design

[misty fossil]

wdym there's a subdoc that reduces 0.4cw for all generic tanks and mechanised

[wet flicker]

Is it fire or straight dookie

[misty fossil]

122% reliability isnt useful

at all

[wet flicker]

I thought reliability was a good thing tho wow

[brittle cypress]

swap the small cannon for an hmg, remove sloped armor because it's bad, use riveted armor because it's good, use 3 man turret for breakthrough, add another hmg

and now you have something fairly good

[craggy trail]

Late game mechanized is something you'll see very often

[misty fossil]

@wet flicker i would do this but id use radio 3, 2x secondary and easy maintenance, with maxed armour ticks. just gotta make sure reliability isnt below 60-70%

[misty fossil]

no its not

reliability only starts to do its thing when you start attritioning

which if you're smart you never will attrition

ie dont walk into mountains, marshes or jungles

i was playing canada in sheep, accidentally moved my htd division onto a mountain and immediately lost 400 tanks

[dry sleet]

Weather also causes attrition

[brittle cypress]

for new players just keep it at like 70% reliability

you can train without losing massive amounts

and move them in bad territory

way less punishing

[misty fossil]

tbf i couldnt do anything as canada

like i cant xp grind or do mastery grind or anything

1945 and i only reached the first mastery milestone in my army doctrine

[brittle cypress]

damn

[misty fossil]

bro i couldnt send volunteers to spain

because of course i cant

[upbeat tundra]

lore accurate poland

zlawg

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpYS6HO9848&pp=ygUJaG9pNCBzZWds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tgt9z9JdM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzsrv8rtJ2k&t=295s

[upbeat tundra]

buuuut the best way to learn hoi4

is trial and error

[misty fossil]

yeah that

but im a sweat

(not)

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-blade-runner-angry-god-damnit-confused-gif-15118091

[upbeat tundra]

nice garrison austria

[tulip thorn]

What in equestria are the changelings doing

[dim cargo]

@snow python @lapis bronze

[misty fossil]

larpji

https://tenor.com/view/tfr-the-fire-rises-the-long-march-loji-zheng-chan-gif-4129328018525094281

[haughty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/saunders-girls-und-panzer-m4sherman-sherman-firefly-gif-16912855

[uncut wraith]

can there also be a gamerule that deletes last stand because it is genuinely worse than hitler

[haughty sail]

can we not mention that dude

[low dock]

I killed 642k soviets as tanu tuva. My allies are all dead what should I do?

[cursive oxide]

whas a pain to get

[low dock]

Not that painful

[cursive oxide]

it whas

[north merlin]

which one do i go down as hungry?

hungary

[winged field]

balanced

[north merlin]

oh? why?

[winged field]

doesnt have bad modifier like the other one

[north merlin]

does it let me reclaim the austrian hungarian empire?

[winged field]

u need other focus for that

[north merlin]

i have to decide which line to go down

[winged field]

invite habsburg prince for austria hungary path

[north merlin]

oh, ok

[primal timber]

guys its rommel you have to believe me

who's erwin

must be a fraud

[quasi osprey]

finally reclaiming greece

[random delta]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-gemson-gapejak-wholesome-soyjak-gif-27193685

[primal timber]

the hell's going on

[wet flicker]

This is gonna be true entertainment

I get to sit back and relax and watch the soviets and germans fight until im needed

[smoky burrow]

yo

yo when i try to join a MP lobby it says connection timed out or just connecting but doesnt connect me

can someone help

[livid edge]

есть тут кто русский?

[wet flicker]

might not have the mods they're running

[smoky burrow]

they didnt have any

[open osprey]

IM CRYING I DESTROYED ITALY W SWITZERLAND

[quasi osprey]

[rich nacelle]

Idk why I just thought of this 💀

[rich nacelle]

Switzerly

[quasi osprey]

I have a feeling this will either go really well or very very badly

[wet flicker]

ty bro

[fair horizon]

oh i hate that

[wet flicker]

im copying the tank design rn

[fair horizon]

its gonna work decently well too

[quasi osprey]

for now its ok

[quasi osprey]

considering all of my destroyers are early destroyers and most of theirs are at least basic ones I think I did ok

[fair horizon]

are those torpedo destroyers?

[quasi osprey]

no just regular destroyers that I had from the start

I think Italy may be struggling with convoys...

[misty fossil]

i dont like how pearl harbour is so massively railroaded

[quasi osprey]

wdym railroaded

[misty fossil]

railroading is when you script the game so it delivers a certain outcome no matter how the player shapes it

for example you can be the ussr and have 99% war participation against germany, but the devs could have scripted the game so germany is partitioned like irl

[fair horizon]

oh ew then

you should have refit them with torpedoes

[quasi osprey]

I am mainly using subs for that I just wanted to at least use the starting navy for smth

[misty fossil]

subs suck in this update apparently

which is sad because i want to use my vnr cold war subs to wreck the allies

[quasi osprey]

well not really because I did this to italy

[fair horizon]

yeah but if you made them have torps they'd be doing good

[misty fossil]

i wish the game would implement extremely stealthy SSGNs like the echo class or oscar 1/2 classes

[primal timber]

middle east looking chaotic as usual

[misty fossil]

the soviets cooked with their ashms

[quasi osprey]

the germans have no chance against my navy

[low dock]

This is beautiful

[solid grail]

Can u put nuke torps on a ship or just subs?

[primal timber]

they fumbled the civil war and now i have orange sweden

[lethal ether]

huhuhuh

[clear dagger]

the equivalent of curb stomping a baby

https://tenor.com/view/curbstomp-gif-698109369917669339

[quasi osprey]

[quasi osprey]

Well I am just using early destroyers and a few cruisers so idk

[clear dagger]

against 6 shitty light cruisers

[wet flicker]

yea the same thing happens if you capitulate the british as any other country other than the germans or italians

the news paper pops up saying the italians made britain fall no matter what

[ember vine]

Out of them I just have the siberian tiger

It's easy af

Build like a shit ton of small cavalry units and wait for soviet civil war

Your best hope is the right opposition because they're lacking out usually

Dumbass AI puts its troops on the coastline like if Stalin would even naval invade them

[white dome]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2270893555&searchtext=soo+optimization

[wet flicker]

if AI germany didnt create a collab government in vichy france, can i set my spy network on it to make it my puppet?

is that possible at all

[vague abyss]

her: you don't know what struggling means

me:

[primal timber]

i noticed germany hadn't been doing some of their expansionism so i had to check it out

they're locked out of doing the rhineland for some reason

like its still demilitarized

[vague abyss]

generals what do you advise in the situation, air is yellow and we have -50k inf equipment

[primal timber]

ill have to help them out here

[ember vine]

Ur cooked bro

[wet flicker]

give up slovakia, hungary and all of the balkans in general

make a fall back line only on germany itself

[primal timber]

call steiner

[vague abyss]

I did and then got bored cos it was too easy

so I want to try and hold both pockets

yes im a veteran

[wet flicker]

aw shi

[ember vine]

Das war ein befehl

[primal timber]

1938 and i've got them back on track

ww2 will be delayed by about 2 years

[vague abyss]

tanks go brr

[clear dagger]

pray to Steiner

[vague abyss]

bro holding this pocket hard af maybe i should send a frontline into it

[primal timber]

zurge rush talinn

[clear dagger]

how did you even get the soviets on the western front?

[rich gulch]

guys are space marines the most op thing in the game

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/no-warhammer-40k-gif-8309627049731181093

[primal timber]

in other news humans breathe air

[heavy vigil]

depends on definition

[vague abyss]

idek

[rich gulch]

like the best thing i can make

is it going to be better than any other medium tank or anything

[heavy vigil]

again

[rich gulch]

or troop templates

[heavy vigil]

depends on definition

the 9 inf 1 spaa thing sucks

[rich gulch]

i just want the most op thing in multiplayer

arent space marines banned in most multiplayer games

[heavy vigil]

not all 🤷

use these

[vague abyss]

alright u win ill retreat

[rich gulch]

?

camels?

[clear dagger]

yes but they hold fuel in their humps instead of water

[rich gulch]

i need an insane industry for these tho

[heavy vigil]

theyre both 6K cost

theyre not expensive

[clear dagger]

what nation are you playing?

[heavy vigil]

more hp yes

[rich gulch]

i mostly just do italy portugal roc or japan (im excluding germany cuz germany can make anything)

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136531797925175316/1230091957095764039/this-peaks-this-reeks-ezgif.com-effects.gif

[rich gulch]

rip

[primal timber]

give steiner another call

[vague abyss]

we are cooked im calling steiner

[sharp yarrow]

does anybody know a very good german reskin submod

[astral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-break-computer-funny-rage-destroy-gif-25478291

[rich gulch]

make more convoys to stop the attack next time

[astral cliff]

i lost

[rich gulch]

why is usa's tree so bad

when are we getting a usa dlc

[vague abyss]

guh

well

[rich gulch]

you should've stopped and save ur file and send it to bittersteel

[vague abyss]

im using AI mods to make it harder

how do u even form west germany

[misty fossil]

i have 0 idea how you got there and im scared to ask

ill just give up tbh

[vague abyss]

scroll up

[misty fossil]

i did

[vague abyss]

ayy im now the federal republic

lets goo east v west

[clear dagger]

which ones?

[vague abyss]

sheeps and a bunch of stuff for veteran players like myself that make it almost impossible

[misty fossil]

oh sheep

yeah nevermind

[vague abyss]

rip

[wet flicker]

WTF

i need the soviets to get their asses kicked

what the hell is germany doing

[misty fossil]

you forgot to max buff ger lol

[pine shale]

what do u guys think of the paradox launcher

[ripe slate]

solid 3,5/10

[wet flicker]

im a strict ironman loyalist

[pine shale]

what can i do with a uppet

[misty fossil]

you can do that with ironman

[misty fossil]

buffer against the allies so you have a narrower frontline

otherwise just straight annex them

[ripe slate]

masochist*

😭 I dont wanna restart my game if I clicked the wrong event option

[pine shale]

how ?

[ripe slate]

You gotta build stuff in them or give lend lease to get the autonomy lower

[vital cove]

that's what save scuming is for

you can go back 2-3 days

it always works

[ripe slate]

Save scumming shouldnt be necessary

[heavy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438336466362171433/1504131952087662612/G_KcUGxWQAE1LZM.gif

[pine shale]

why are thye not pushing btw ?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[pine shale]

@ripe slate

[misty fossil]

Console

lol

You forgot to call both of them to war

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-and-wave-just-old-gif-22024541

[mild plaza]

You have way too many troops defending

[cedar lance]

wassup baba

[mild plaza]

They'd never be able to win

[pine shale]

im new bro idk how this stuff works

[ripe slate]

Im guessing you forgot to call your allies in so you cant attack through their land

[mild plaza]

Oh wait you meant your troops pushing. I thought you meant the enmies

[wide osprey]

xDDDDD

[pine shale]

im losing bruh help

[finite plume]

My hands hurt but I made rough states for China's modern provinces

[pine shale]

help

[finite plume]

Supply issues + Probably ran out of Planning Bonus + Low Strength units

[pine shale]

so what do i do

[finite plume]

Wait out for your planning bonus to reach max

Planning almost always outweighs entrenchment

[pine shale]

how

[finite plume]

You just wait

You don't attack

[vital cove]

@ripe slate is it intended that you don't annex carpatho Ukraine when you choose "all of Czechoslovakia belongs to the reich" when you do fate of Czechoslovakia it doesn't make much sense

[finite plume]

As for supply, if you haven't already then try motorizing your supply lines

[pine shale]

how do i know when my planning bonus is up

[misty fossil]

rip

man im itching for some stellaris

[ripe slate]

Its historical

[finite plume]

I can't show you cause my game will crash at its current state

It's a blue vertical bar next to your unit icons though when selecting them

[ripe slate]

I think theres some scripted way to get Ruthenia but I forgot what it is for Germany

Its mainly for Hungary

[pine shale]

this si so complicated bruh the combat

[vital cove]

historically Germany didn't annex all of Czechoslovakia tho

so you don't make the historical choice when picking that

[pine shale]

helpp

[lost dawn]

This campaign is breaking me.

I am winning in the field... but the gameplay is so slow now. And it is only 1947

[ripe slate]

Oh you mean like that

[pine shale]

can some1 help me hwo to get good at combat

[ripe slate]

I think theres something scripted for Germany I just dont know the details as Logan made it

[vital cove]

not sure what can you do about it

like there are only 4 pickable options

none of them being that

[pine shale]

someone please help with combat

[wet flicker]

i have never seen the ai do this on historical not once

[fair horizon]

ive seen it a lot

[wet flicker]

wtf bro

[ripe slate]

odd

[pine shale]

helelelelppppp

[vital sand]

What

[pine shale]

with combat

[vital sand]

Oh

Nah I'm bad

Ask someone else

[vague abyss]

booom

[pine shale]

i dont understnad anything about this war like how organization works

i suck at combat in this game i dont understand it at all

[vague abyss]

new event?

[pine shale]

combat is so overwhelming and complex and confusing

[vague abyss]

its not

just use the right templates and strategies

[ripe slate]

I think thats been there for a while

[vague abyss]

lets goo

[vague abyss]

we now NATO

I really hope when they start reworking the allies we also receive some post 45 tech trees and postwar doctrines

[pine shale]

bro i put battle plan and my troops lose

[vague abyss]

depends on ur country what ur doing etc

[ivory hull]

do your divs suck and do you have air?

[pine shale]

roamniaa

[vague abyss]

yeah who u going to war with

[pine shale]

greece

[vague abyss]

terrain

bad supply

bad inf

no equipment

[vague abyss]

I also gotta finish my slovakia tree soon, been hella busy with work and studying

[ripe slate]

Id say I hope they do yalta but I have the (delusional) hope that they have a job opening I can apply to before then because thatd be sick

[primal timber]

can't wait to launch an atlas directly into moscow with a focus

[vague abyss]

Yeah we get QOL features with new DLC and with france, UK and USA on the route for the next year it makes sense to implement it

what can I really use the multi calibre guns for btw never really touched them

[rich gulch]

would u say porutgal is a strong nation

for a minor

[vague abyss]

lets goo

[vague abyss]

depends how u play it

[rich gulch]

wdym

i have to declare on uk

and china

and brazil

[vague abyss]

then yeah

it can be

[rich gulch]

literally impossible

i have non existent manpower

[primal timber]

i think ww2 just started

[pine shale]

wwhat do i do

[vague abyss]

just realised this was a feature @ripe slate 🤣 learn something new even after 4000 hours

[ripe slate]

🤷‍♂️ Imagine playing navy lmao

[abstract cargo]

It took me 7 hours of my life to go from 1936 to 1944 and win the war as the soviets

Jesus

[marble patio]

wtf

agressor greece???

[abstract cargo]

What?

[marble patio]

what could have compelled them to do this

[abstract cargo]

It says italy declared on greece

[marble patio]

oh my bad

i misread

im tired

just woke up

[abstract cargo]

Lol

Peak tag btw

Also is it just me or are the soviets a pain to play for the first time?

[marble patio]

ty

[marble patio]

any nation is but they are especially because you will eventually have to deal with germany

like

moreso then any european minor

[abstract cargo]

Well I won against germany

1944

But it was a pain

[marble patio]

damn a year early

[abstract cargo]

Because it was a stalemate

[abstract cargo]

They took eastern poland and then stalled

But I couldn't push either

[marble patio]

son

[abstract cargo]

So we both sat there

[marble patio]

😭

one game I had

ww2 was won

and i became the EU

but then

the cold war happened

but like way worse

and they actually invaded

and we lost like really bad

[abstract cargo]

Thats my plan soon

But

My military is...

Uhm

Just 456 infantry divisions

Well no

445 infantry divisions and 11 mountaineers

[marble patio]

damn

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[vague abyss]

noticed a localisation error btw

[pine shale]

how do i learn xcombat inthis game i dont understna anything

[ripe slate]

whats your server

[ripe slate]

[primal timber]

these number good (save for weight)

this number bad

unga bunga

grug throw rock at stalin

[cedar lance]

wassup mari

[abstract cargo]

Im playing singleplayer :p

I dont have anyone to play multi with

[primal timber]

why haven't the soviets done the winter war what's going on with them

[ripe slate]

I meant your tag, kek

[abstract cargo]

Oh lmao

[ripe slate]

Making brunch

[primal timber]

oh right

[abstract cargo]

This whole account was supposed to be a joke

[primal timber]

i did that

[abstract cargo]

Now its my main :p

[ripe slate]

Damn

[ivory hull]

show all of the template

[primal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laugh-ishowspeed-speed-laugh-speed-ishowspeed-reunion-gif-15563043309322755905

[abstract cargo]

How quick a man slips into rabbit holes..

[pine shale]

dawg i dont understand

idk what this means

idk how combat works bruh

[ripe slate]

Is it infectious? 👅

[abstract cargo]

High soft attack are good against infantry
High hard attack are good against tanks
Combat width determines how many divisions can be in 1 battle

[pine shale]

yeai dk what to do with this information

[cedar lance]

alr nice

[abstract cargo]

Honestly.. figure it out yourself or watch a tutorial :p

[abstract cargo]

Maybe

Maybe not

[ripe slate]

You can just use the default infantry templates at first ngl

Might wanna try out tanks from a proper guide

[cedar lance]

i like making RL Templates and LARPING

[abstract cargo]

Why are all the allies canceling their non aggression pact

Right after ww2

What did I do

JESUS

Literally every nation just cancelled it

[primal timber]

i tried doing that with germany once and then it told me to use armored cars

[cedar lance]

alr

i like making like infantry/rifle marine tank armored and etc RL templates

aswell as historical templates

like to outnumber my enemies

[primal timber]

got a few friends here

[cedar lance]

nice

[stoic drum]

danzing 🥀

[abstract cargo]

Danzig carries

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/plasmagica-show-by-rock--k01KRR57VY33DAG58C3M039XYAJ

[finite plume]

Did China's strategic regions for now

https://tenor.com/pWefyhAt58N.gif

[misty fossil]

RL? relative level?

[cedar lance]

real life

[misty fossil]

ok

[cedar lance]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Army

basically different variants of these

of the Mil org army units

@misty fossil

[misty fossil]

Nice

[cedar lance]

i will mod them in as Real life units and templates

for ALL Nations

[pine shale]

but why i lose almost all my wars

[finite plume]

Man now I got a bunch of empty states I needa add somewhere

[wooden agate]

Whats up guys

[frank estuary]

Are there any online division designers?

[pine shale]

the roof and im losing every time its annoying !!!

[wooden agate]

Oof

Yall reckon if I email PDX enough they'll finally sponsor me

[heavy vigil]

no.

[ripe slate]

[pine shale]

why i lose wars

[wooden agate]

Booh, this is what I get when I turn into a controversial HOI4 youtuber

[wooden agate]

Dude, I've been trying to reach out to you for a month 💀

[heavy vigil]

no, this is what you get if you push people hard

they are less likely to want to deal with you

[wooden agate]

I haven't actually emailed them yet

[heavy vigil]

PDX sponsors on their own terms

[wooden agate]

News to me

[heavy vigil]

theres usually times where theyll allow you to ask for it afaik

[wooden agate]

Yeah I haven't contacted them 😭

[dry sleet]

Good luck getting answers out of PDX, I have a forum post in modding that likely needs a dev to answer and has not been touched in over a month.

[wooden agate]

I was just joking

[heavy vigil]

but they dont tend to randomly sponsor so

[wooden agate]

I've been trying to talk to @ripe slate for a month bro

[wooden agate]

Yeah, I'm gonna probably chat to Otto about it

[ripe slate]

I had some bug reports that I ended up fixing myself as well

[misty fossil]

bro just straight up ignoring him

i think he blocked u lmao

[ripe slate]

If you mean error log, I only share new DLC insights in public channels when I do, then PDX can tell me if I did something wrong

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 hello

[wooden agate]

You're not allowed to discuss anything with me outside of public channels?

[zealous nexus]

💀💀💀

[potent quartz]

anyone up to duo rn

[ripe slate]

If you want to MP this is the wrong channel

[real oar]

only 900 million for the goal

[vital sand]

Nah

[shell sorrel]

The hell is “G” 😭

[dry sleet]

"Gagillion"?

[real oar]

A billion

[shell sorrel]

Where’s the G in billion

[lapis onyx]

I got a historical question for those in chat

So im the moltov ribbentrov improved trade between germany and the soviets

And i know the main reason for hitler invading was the oil in the cacuses

Was... trading it not an option?

[shell sorrel]

Free and guaranteed > paid and able to be embargoed

[real oar]

The game doesn’t have billion yet instead they made G

I guess becouse they thought no one woukd reach these casualties

[ripe slate]

I think the main reason was probably less strategic

[shell sorrel]

But also Hitler was notably not very sane or smart

So you can chalk it up to Hitler making dumb choices

[sleek pollen]

germeny vs the entire world?

[real oar]

Yes

[sleek pollen]

damn, bro prolly has a NASA Computer

[real oar]

I wish

I have i5 11400 and it cannot take it anymore

[hard depot]

1.10G

[sleek pollen]

what about ur gpu?

wait was hoi4 cpu intensive?

[knotty vortex]

I HATE THIS STUPID GANE

I CANNOT CREATE ANY FUNCTIONAL ARMYS

[real oar]

Yes it is cpu only

Gpu coukd handle it

[sleek pollen]

that make sense

[sleek pollen]

thats still a good cpu tho

[real oar]

That yes i am suprised by the power

I thought it would be unplayable at this point in game

[sleek pollen]

ig hoi4 isnt somewhat bloated

[real oar]

yes it is optimalized kind of

[hard depot]

Maybe I should rush Railway Guns for the USSR

(Are railway guns still amazing to this day?)

[sleek pollen]

u can think of it as naval bombardment but on land

[real oar]

fun to play with

[rich gulch]

Any tips on how to annex Germany as France

CAS? Space Marines?

[sleek pollen]

attack them on 1936

[real oar]

inf can do unless it is sheep ai

[rich gulch]

It’s just normal ai

[rich gulch]

How I’m a democracy

[hard depot]

I've tried everything to blunt the barb lol

I even made a giant ass wall

[real oar]

then inf with arty shovels and aa

[rich gulch]

Will space inf not work

[hard depot]

A literal wall of AA, fighters, CAS and Radar

[real oar]

i usually just spam divisions

[sleek pollen]

the Remilitalized event, u can reject it and u will gain a justification

[real oar]

it will hold perfectly

[rich gulch]

So I should denounce them ( the top option) and I get a war goal?

[hard depot]

With 18W?

With an 18w 9/0?

[real oar]

yes easily can hold

[sleek pollen]

yes but beware of the revolution

[rich gulch]

Communist?

[sleek pollen]

yes

[real oar]

if you have shovels and aa it is even better

[rich gulch]

I can just do ban communism focus

[real oar]

take assault inf it is the best option for soft attack

[hard depot]

Once I get SH Artillery, i'll do this:

[sleek pollen]

large tactic for Infantry oriented or Assault Infantry for insane buff of supprot arti/AAA/Antitank. defensive posture is good if u focus mainly on tanks

[hard depot]

I'll take Streamline deployment and Mission Type Tactics

[rich gulch]

Btw for France should I do motorized focus or CAS Focus

[real oar]

assault inf is best for just meatgrind of inf only

[hard depot]

Then i'll divert early factories onto fighters and CAS

[sleek pollen]

the Remilitalized event appear after 35 days into the game

[rich gulch]

So I should attack instantly?

[sleek pollen]

yea, u pretty much got an advantage early on

[rich gulch]

Should I do motorized focus or CAS

[sleek pollen]

but tbh, if ur palying historical france. it can get pretty boring quickly unless

[hard depot]

There's an option to declare war if Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland

[rich gulch]

No I’m doing napoleon

[hard depot]

But it's RNG, the commies would be pissed and you'd be in a Civil War

[sleek pollen]

yea

[sleek pollen]

put some troops near belgium btw

[hard depot]

"RNG?" The UK would either join and get you to war, or you don't and lose 200 PP

[rich gulch]

Will they attack me

[sleek pollen]

no but the communist revolution will do

[hard depot]

Hell naw lol

[hard depot]

Which is something you can handle if you play the cards right.

[sleek pollen]

idk, depends if ur planning on heavily investing on air

[hard depot]

Hold the lines for the communists while you blitz through Germany

[rich gulch]

Which ones better

[hard depot]

remind me if I'm making them factories right

[sleek pollen]

yea, mostly they spawn near the top border

[hard depot]

You know, i'm quite lucky to the fact that nearly all my USSR games that the best Generals don't get purged

[sleek pollen]

both are better, like i said, if ur planning to invest more on tanks, go with motorized but on air? go with CAS

[hard depot]

Even Zhukov was spared

[heavy vigil]

lets not post those words.

[zealous nexus]

Gayyyyy

[sleek pollen]

best tip on that is to do it quickly as u can

[hard depot]

I finish my purges in 38-early 39

[rich gulch]

so should i still do communism banned after the civil war breaks out

[hard depot]

No, it's a one time limited option

It takes 200 political power, VERY VERY EXPENSIVE. RISKY.

[rich gulch]

im only making 0.09 per day

i lost

cuz the commies took paris

im gonna try again

[sleek pollen]

did u put some troops near belgium?

[rich gulch]

i did but in the wrong spot

and they also took those troops

[lost dawn]

It's all coming together now

[sleek pollen]

well technically it wasnt near the border

when i said that

[rich gulch]

i know where it is now

im just gonna put them next to calais

[sleek pollen]

yea, heres the tip. crush the commies first before commiting on germany

[rich gulch]

19 divs on commie is enough?

[sleek pollen]

put all ur weakest division gaurding the maginot, AI wouldnt bother attacking a maxed fort

[rich gulch]

ok

[sleek pollen]

nahh

how many divs does france in total have?

[kind reef]

Gonna play multiplayer for the first time with my friend that never played HOI4 in his life

[sleek pollen]

u allies or axis or commis?

[rich gulch]

74

[sleek pollen]

well put majority of ur troop crushing down the commies

[kind reef]

Axis
I am Germany and he is Italy

[sleek pollen]

can i play as ussr? :>

[rich gulch]

ok so

in this timeline rheinland wasnt remilitarized

[kind reef]

It is only us 2 tho :<

[sleek pollen]

hahaha alr, ya have fun then :))

[kind reef]

ty : D

[sleek pollen]

wot

[rich gulch]

yeah

they just backed down

[sleek pollen]

lmao

well u can wait til germany do the sudentenland

or u can re start

[hard depot]

This I also agree, but you're very much too late

[misty fossil]

bro didnt train his troops

[lost dawn]

"bro" doesn't care. I am the roman empire

[misty fossil]

hi the roman empire im dad

[lost dawn]

I spit out more units than I know what to do with

[sleek pollen]

even untrained troop, i bet ai didnt bother to put troops on guard the homeland

[rich gulch]

ok

commies are done

[sleek pollen]

nice, did u re start?

[rich gulch]

yeah i did

[sleek pollen]

did germany back down again?

[rich gulch]

nope

and i just killed the commies

[sleek pollen]

sweet

[rich gulch]

now germany

[sleek pollen]

u can pretty much blitz them

do sum naval

landing

[sleek pollen]

u should atleast let ur general complete their planning first before

attacking them

[indigo elk]

I accidentally sent volunteers to Republican Spain, quite late into the war. Unlikely to win it, and wouldn't want to, but what is the best thing to do with the troops? Keep fighting? Disband and re-recruit?

[rich gulch]

where do i check planning

200 hours in and i still dont know this

[sleek pollen]

just let em, experienced troop is good tho

especially if u make em as ur spearhead

[indigo elk]

But if Republican Spain lose, then my troops die dont they?

[sudden thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452331766697296065/1503736220771942501/caption.gif

[narrow lotus]

yall

[worn cliff]

who said having supply on barb isnt possible

[narrow lotus]

why is what im saying blocked

[worn cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436590293200928830/1468821877198819399/attachment.gif

[sudden thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960201840761372713/1312474568719339631/caption.gif

[sleek pollen]

idk which of this two but try to hover ur mouse over it

[rich gulch]

its full

but its still not working

[daring geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295333970682183796/1368975677436461106/caption.gif

[sleek pollen]

u sure its not the entrenchment?

[worn cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1113539638334869536/1289720641804570756/togif.gif

[rich gulch]

oof yes it is

[sudden thistle]

Civ greed is goated

[rich gulch]

imma restart

[sleek pollen]

oof ToT

[sudden thistle]

60 civs 4 divs Finland

[rich gulch]

but how

[sleek pollen]

wait wait, dont

[worn cliff]

i build civs until august 38 as soviet

[rich gulch]

when im dealing with the commies they're alr there

[sleek pollen]

wait wait

[sleek pollen]

what i said about planning isnt something would ruin ur run

[worn cliff]

i have more supplies than the soviets do in their country

[sleek pollen]

what i meant it, its just adding a buff to ur troop

[rich gulch]

are you sure i shouldnt attack them at the very start because when i did there were some green bubbles

[sleek pollen]

well thats good

[worn cliff]

is this tuff 200 piercing

[sleek pollen]

two heavy tank template?

[wide osprey]

you have 2 hubs and river

[rich gulch]

now its just going crazy

[wide osprey]

you are not that tuff

😔

[rich gulch]

i pressed the one that would make me declare war and nothing happens

[sleek pollen]

wdym?

[rich gulch]

nothing happened

no commies no war

this game is busted

its time for hoi5

please

[sleek pollen]

did u restart?

[rich gulch]

yes

[sleek pollen]

well u got lucky

[rich gulch]

pls stop adding dlcs

its time for hoi5

[vital sand]

How do I download Equestria at war I don't have steam ?

[sleek pollen]

try download it from paradox modding

[vital sand]

K ig

I'll try

[sleek pollen]

https://mods.paradoxplaza.com/mods/43054/Any

[thick vector]

I have a strategy for the invasion of England, I will naval invasion of the harbor Dover and Portsmouth and then after a few seconds I will invade the hull port and that will break the English focus because they are focused below, what do you think?

[vital sand]

Bruh I can't play hoi4

[rich gulch]

ok i give up

[sleek pollen]

lmao why?

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[rich gulch]

im just gonna fight them normally later on

[sleek pollen]

did u install it correctly?

[rich gulch]

how do i defeat them in say 1940

what do i need

[vital sand]

I got sauce on my hand

I can't wash it off

My laptop will get stinky

[thick vector]

[vital sand]

I love my little pony bruh

[sleek pollen]

not a good idea

[rich gulch]

why

youtubers do it all the time

it doesnt even seem like a challenge to them

[thick vector]

Just be careful if you lie

[thick vector]

Hi Lawliet

[sleek pollen]

well cus theyre playing historical but if its napoleon path, prolly not

[rich gulch]

Hi

[vital sand]

What

[rich gulch]

i am doing historical

[sleek pollen]

not enough

[sleek pollen]

ohh ig u gave up on napoleon path

[rich gulch]

no

i gave up on attacking them in 1936

i plan to annex them then ussr

[sleek pollen]

why?

u had them

[rich gulch]

its impossible, i have to deal with the commies first then when i get to them they'll have 300 entrenchment

[sleek pollen]

then do naval invasion

[rich gulch]

do they have troops in the north

near berlin

[sleek pollen]

nope, germany starts with 3 tanks, 24 infa, 2 mot and 1 mountainers

[rich gulch]

doesnt germany have 30 divs

oh

yes

[sleek pollen]

yes in total but they rather put them guarding the maginot border

while france has 74 in total, u have tons to spare for naval invaison

[rich gulch]

do u think i can put just 1 army on maginot

and 3 on naval

[sleek pollen]

yes, heck even 2 army to make sure they put all of their troop near the border

[zealous nexus]

I have decided that I am going to ignore the airforce

If i pretend it doesnt exist it wont Hurt me

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-dumb-gif-5210327410085801296

[rich gulch]

bro

im so frustrated

[vital sand]

Nah

[rich gulch]

they keep backing down

[vital sand]

Crazy

[sleek pollen]

did u put all ur troop near the border?

[rich gulch]

2 armies

2 armies next to calais

[sleek pollen]

oh i see

[sleek pollen]

well its a matter of rng tho

[rich gulch]

then how do i defeat them in 1940

space marines?

7/2 inf?

[vital sand]

Damm

[sleek pollen]

36w tanks division

[rich gulch]

medium?

[vital sand]

This chat hard to understand I know nothing about hoi4

[hard depot]

I've got 2 railway guns before 1939 lol

[sleek pollen]

can be heavy or medium spg

[hard depot]

this is peak

[rich gulch]

are space marines shit now

[sleek pollen]

nope, just expensive

[rich gulch]

fr? its only 1 tank tho

[sleek pollen]

thats the neat part, u dont

[rich gulch]

poland is a great nation to start

super peaceful

[vital sand]

Can u teach me father

[vital sand]

Ig

[rich gulch]

no dont

im just kidding

[sleek pollen]

yea it is only 1 tank per divs but imagine having 74 division. its rather best to create a dedicated tank divs than puttin them in every divs

[rich gulch]

im afraid u might deinstall

[rich gulch]

aight

so space marines only in powerful majors?

like usa or germany

[vital sand]

My room stinks of hoi4

I can't

[rich gulch]

didnt you say u were new

[vital sand]

I tried like 20 times bruh

[rich gulch]

what country

italy?

[vital sand]

Exactly I'm new but I tried

[vital sand]

Nah Finland

[sleek pollen]

its simple, just have fun and explore every menu and feature u came across

[rich gulch]

dont play a minor for ur first country

especially one that has u go to war with the strongest late game country

[vital sand]

Oh ig

[sleek pollen]

yes, space marine if u had the industrial capacity to supply every divs

[vital sand]

Ayo sus

[rich gulch]

are u finnish

[sleek pollen]

try US if u feel a bit stuck or Germany if u feel a bit aggressive

[rich gulch]

who in the right mind would play finland

[vital sand]

Nah I'm Albanian

[sleek pollen]

its good tho if u wanna improve ur defence strat

[rich gulch]

ig finland is better than albania

[vital sand]

Yeah exactly

Just little spicy

Since you against ussr

[rich gulch]

never seen someone play albania

i've seen more people play aussa and luxembourg

[lilac ginkgo]

hi

cooked timeline

[vital sand]

True u have nothing to conquer around bruh

[rich gulch]

better not show that symbol here

[rich gulch]

no the point is you are destined to get conquered

[lilac ginkgo]

thats how the flag is

i was just showing the game

[vital sand]

I know but it's fun to have a smaller nation u can manage

[rich gulch]

its not the ingame flag and i dont think the mods allow it

[sleek pollen]

prolly modded flag

[lilac ginkgo]

its

in a mod i have

[hard depot]

3 railway guns in 1939 is peak.

[lilac ginkgo]

for rks

[rich gulch]

if u like a manageable smaller nation might i suggest spain

[hard depot]

Lol

[rich gulch]

Best country to learn microing

[vital sand]

I'll try I guess

[hard depot]

Absolute torture if you can't micro well btw

[rich gulch]

its not, franco almost always wins

cuz of german and italian volunteers

[sleek pollen]

try to get 5 of em

[hard depot]

(You're playing as the Republicans*)

[rich gulch]

real hell is the regional defense council of aragon

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[rich gulch]

or carlist spain ( u spawn in the middle of everyone)

[lilac ginkgo]

real hell is carlist spain with one province

[rich gulch]

u spawn encircled lmao

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah whatever

[hard depot]

I made 2 lines, I should expect about 6-8 railway guns by the time Barb comes knocking in

[lilac ginkgo]

but ur small

is what i mean

[sleek pollen]

nice, stalin is proud of u komrade

[rich gulch]

yeah so just do unify national front for the easiest civil war then try to go for communist spain

then just work ur way down

and by then your microing will be insane

cuz u get less assistance with each weaker path

[hard depot]

I rushed Superheavy Howitzer to instantly unlock Siege Artillery doctrine, thereby increasing the effectiveness of Railway guns

[sleek pollen]

lmao, u gonna pulverised those germans

[hard depot]

I lack planes, I'm trying to make more mils for planes with the template of 8 light MG's, one fuel tank and one radio nav 1 and engine 2 lol

I have 5 mils on planes with 1000 more le fighters on stock

[narrow lotus]

u guys thibk i can recover from this? (Im austria)

[sleek pollen]

nice

[hard depot]

Is 8 light MG's, one fuel tank, one radio nav 1 and engine 2 even viable

[sleek pollen]

pretty much, if u can knock out those D-day first and force the enemy back to the magino line

[sleek pollen]

i really cant seem to picture that, send pic

[narrow lotus]

they have like 15 divisions per tile in yugoslavia and germany has lost 100 of their divisions and has like 1 division per tile in the eastern front

but ima try tmrw

[sleek pollen]

sounds fun

[narrow lotus]

no it sounds like im gonna break my keyboard

[sleek pollen]

lmao, well its far from endsieg anyway

[vital sand]

How do u split up divisions?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[hard depot]

ts good?

[limpid zenith]

radio useless

[limpid zenith]

by the time you will need planes as historic soviet union it will became garbage actually no point to building that

[hard depot]

Yeah but I need to atleast bump the numbers or something

What's the point of this wall of radar and AA when I can't get fighters to cover it anyways

[cedar lance]

they should have added ARs as a SP

[limpid zenith]

this template will die in first few months of war with germany

especially with starting soviet national spirit

which is not really improved before war cuz a lot other usefull things you need to do

[narrow lotus]

personally I prefer using light defense turret instead of armor plates early game but thats js me

[lilac ginkgo]

hell yes

german panzers rolled into new york

[misty fossil]

guys i have -67 hours in hoi4 is this a good plane design

[hard depot]

Won't it just reduce my air defense?

[limpid zenith]

better to just bump all starting mils on basic stuff like trucks trains infantry equipment to exclude it's shortages in future

[narrow lotus]

armor plates reduce air defense but defense turret increase it

o wait

NVM

ignore me ive got it all mixed up

[misty fossil]

thats fine just switch to hmg and self sealing once you got them

[misty fossil]

defense turret is trash

[night socket]

guys, what's up? anyway, i have a question. has anyone ever seen a mod where the starting point is 1950, right after the end of the Chinese Civil War, in which the Kuomintang won?

[weary lagoon]

yep, Cold War the Iron Curtain, I think it starts at around 1949, during the southern push of the communists

[narrow lotus]

early game its not imp

[cedar lance]

whats yalls opinions bout this idea?

[misty fossil]

might as well build an empty plane so you can refit later

[weary lagoon]

there is a possibility to make the Kuomintang win

[narrow lotus]

I only use them if im playing as a major and have the industry to make them so zip have big stockpile of semi decent planes before I unlock armor plates and stuff, and it Lwayz works for me. If it works I ain't gonna change it

[night socket]

got it, thank you ^^

[hard depot]

Alteast I have something to fight for air once barb comes knocking in....

It's better to have some airforce against CAS than to not have something against CAS

[misty fossil]

well did you know even if you have 1/10 their fighter numbers you can still win IF you do everything right?

like

[limpid zenith]

sounds like 6 months of repair

[narrow lotus]

yes ik that but its not that possible with 1936 plane engine and plane design thingy

[misty fossil]

air is simple, just do one meta design with the right mio, air doctrines and spirits and you win

thats it

you can still win with 1936 air frames refitted with hmgs and stuff

i tried

like

the ai sucks

[misty fossil]

dont build something like this and wonder why you lose

lmao

[loud shuttle]

what mod

[narrow lotus]

well I've tired all the meta shit and I've never once beaten a 1 to q0 ratio against an Ai with 1936 air tech. I have with 1940 air tech. But not 1936, quite impossible seeing as 1936 air tech is ass for u and the Ai and in 1936 u have no radar and stuff

[steel spear]

Ive never seen AI make a map peace like this

[limpid zenith]

ez

[narrow lotus]

Wtf lol W peace deal

[steel spear]

It was the Soveit civilwar peace btw😭

[narrow lotus]

WHAT

[limpid zenith]

💀

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 MRMs sleeper cells are on WORLD SOIL nova 6 is weaponized they will use IT TALLINN has Gone DARK we are out of options

[narrow lotus]

HOWS TJAT EVEN POSSIBLE

[steel spear]

IDK

I HAVE NO IDEA LOLLL

[atomic wolf]

why does my div designer look grey compared to others

[steel spear]

Never even touched soivet union

[misty fossil]

i mean

[limpid zenith]

no dlcs?

[steel spear]

Playing as communist vietnam

[misty fossil]

i dont know how you handled your game

so no comment

[atomic wolf]

like wheres the greenn

[cedar lance]

🇪🇪 MRM FOR THE LAST TIME WHERE IS THE NUMBERS STATION

[misty fossil]

bro is a việt nam mi???

[limpid zenith]

oh wait thats nato icons

[atomic wolf]

how do i fic

fix

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS2Ti9jnmI0&pp=ygUadmlldG5hbWVzZSBoaXN0b3J5IGJlIGxpa2XSBwkJBAsBhyohjO8%3D

[steel spear]

i thoguht id be interesting to play as a country that wouldnt exscist

[steel spear]

'exsist*

[misty fossil]

does he know

[steel spear]

Im doing good

[narrow lotus]

if u can show me u in 1936 beating rhe raf as any country in a air war with u only having 100 planes and the raft having 1000, no radar no 1940 tech, only 1936 tech, ill be very shocked

[steel spear]

attacking china with japan

[atomic wolf]

how do i fix

[outer compass]

''I'll just buy one DLC''

[misty fossil]

not close but i remember having a 12:1 ratio with 1936 planes at some point

i cant remember when or what country

[limpid zenith]

remove that tick

(settings)

[misty fossil]

obviously i dont have proof nor have the time to demonstrate

[hard depot]

lol

[narrow lotus]

in 1936?

or later

[misty fossil]

idk 38 or 39

[narrow lotus]

js with 1936 planes

oh

[misty fossil]

ish

[narrow lotus]

that explains it

[misty fossil]

i cant remember i think it was a month ago

[atomic wolf]

thank u bro u saved my run

[narrow lotus]

if u didnt have doctrines and stuff it wouldn't be possible at all

[misty fossil]

obviously

lol

[outer compass]

guys i have 2 dlcs what are the next ones i buy?

[hard depot]

ts hilarious to make?

[misty fossil]

you should make artillery only

[hard depot]

I'm making the wall

[outer compass]

i tried once

[misty fossil]

all the DLCs marked with "Expansion"

[livid edge]

о русские тут