hoi4-general

[ivory hull]

just use cas

[stoic drum]

its was 1937 okay?

[grave sonnet]

Do Medium tank research and make mediums in 38

[prisma zealot]

wtf that's a lot for bhutan

also what's a good template for invading china please ?

[ivory hull]

inter war also works

[grave sonnet]

True

[rain dove]

https://tenor.com/view/mos-gif-24584972

[random marsh]

Are heavy fighters worth it or should I make normal fighters

[lost dawn]

Why didn't I get a collab gov on the soviets...

My God

[acoustic wasp]

most fun south american nations to play?

[stoic drum]

i mean i used that tamplate and i crushed french and british army...

[lost dawn]

Surinam

[acoustic wasp]

i dont need sufferage i need to chill

i could go commie argentina

[lost dawn]

NOOO

not Commie..

[acoustic wasp]

why not

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

https://tenor.com/view/che-cpm-kammi-sagavu-sfi-gif-14566705

[lost dawn]

God damn you Alf Landon

Couldn't leave it alone

Could you

Geuss we are going this.

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758891043101343748/1504736472157126757/image.png.webp?ex=6a08128b&is=6a06c10b&hm=598617ac61737f18a717e00873dc4ec6fcb40e59648f751a05fb6bea755446b7&=&format=webp&width=541&height=462

[lost dawn]

I do not know you enough to, fairly, judge your character.

[zenith imp]

first n word in hoi4 history

[fair horizon]

definitely a 1

[lilac ginkgo]

6

Or 7

67 😛

[cold crypt]

Why?

[lilac ginkgo]

?

[wide osprey]

11

🙂

[cold crypt]

Why did you have to say that wretched number.

[lilac ginkgo]

why are you maybe a communist

[lost dawn]

The gore... WHY DOES THE AI DO THIS

[lilac ginkgo]

you yourself arent sure of your political affiliation

[cold crypt]

Because I may be a commie.

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah so you re unsure

which makes me question your mental wellbeing and overall sanity

[cold crypt]

Not really my country is democratic but I so find myself Communist.

And I realise I make no sense whatsoever probably.

[lilac ginkgo]

you do

somewhat

[lost dawn]

Is this a victory?

[lilac ginkgo]

you re like a dog on cat island

which makes sense

[cold crypt]

Yeah.

[cold crypt]

I have no idea but you lost 3 BB, 1 CL, 31 American DD and 6 DD for 19 DD.

[lost dawn]

I lost 19 destroyers.

[cold crypt]

I think I have no idea how to read this.

Yeah I just can't read.

[lost dawn]

Time to kill the allies.

[wide osprey]

bro's joking about 67 and questioning other's people sanity 💀

[cold crypt]

That's what I'm saying.

But then again I can't read.

I experience Sleep Paralysis 2/7 days a week.

It's horrible.

[lost dawn]

I will thin out their ranks before invading the UK

[acoustic wasp]

lamest communist flag in the game probably

[cold crypt]

What is that?

That is pathetic.

[acoustic wasp]

argentina

[cold crypt]

Sad as could be.

[fair horizon]

🤷

[lost dawn]

I love this

[bronze glade]

im not sure what do i need to do

[lost dawn]

Accidental achievement of the day

[loud oyster]

That's what I think all the time . Except the fact thats me during the loading screen instead

[bronze glade]

good

[fair horizon]

dont get encircled

[bronze glade]

i got alraedy

already

[fair horizon]

yeah thats an issue

[bronze glade]

nah he about to capitulate

[fair horizon]

well it better happen quick

[bronze glade]

well

[acoustic wasp]

Better now

so guys, communist argentina, when the pop up came way before i read everything in the tree i didnt pick that leader because he'd have messed up my stability so bad, is there any way to get it again?

[fair horizon]

nope

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-fish-spognebob-phone-gif-3064144843174203984

[fair horizon]

but you can get your stability up with decisions

[acoustic wasp]

it's 100 and war support is a 100, all that's left in south america is brazil and venezuela rn

well, next playthrough then

[wide osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YwJZXwTDPVk

😀

[fair horizon]

tbf those civs arent that important

[acoustic wasp]

it's the war goal on the UK

guess i'll just justify

[fair horizon]

yeah majors are easy to justify against so

make sure you take brazil first

[bronze glade]

do i should to help the third reich?

[fair horizon]

if you want to join their side of the war

[prisma steppe]

after playing with some (not to my knowlage) performance heavy mods vanilla speed is so goated

[bronze glade]

i just got that i was playing with expert ai mod 🙏

"expert ai"

[zenith imp]

yes you do should help

[bronze glade]

yeah i did already

[prisma steppe]

let them get stomped and then gobble them up

[zenith imp]

Goebbels reference

[prisma steppe]

is that a VANILLA REFRENCE?!?!?

[zenith imp]

the guy from hoi4

[bronze glade]

when allies will fall i'll attack them

[acoustic wasp]

brazil dead, each central american nation needs half a year to justify on, got bored and exited, time for some total war

[bronze glade]

they didn't give me silesia

[prisma steppe]

nah german ai is so bad, better eat em up and use their eco & rescources, and maybe create a german rump state

allies are a non issue

france is so weak even belgium can solo them

[bronze glade]

i have alliance with germany

[prisma steppe]

and uk is a non issue for the next 2-3 years

[bronze glade]

and we're both in the war with italy

[prisma steppe]

wait why do you own a part of poland

[bronze glade]

i requested control over the lands of silesia

poland gave me them

and germany not

[prisma steppe]

see german is bad ally

they didnt get a italy so you need to larp the italian ally and betray them

(without the incopetence)

[bronze glade]

i can give a war goal to ussr against the third reich

💀

[prisma steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-stan-twt-jumping-dead-stan-twitter-gif-12833572717055752227

[bronze glade]

"Do you want to comply with the terms of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?"

[prisma steppe]

i never signed it so no

[bronze glade]

yeah

im not going to give them lviv

[prisma steppe]

@heavy vigil where to see the banned/ autoremove words list?

[bronze glade]

WAIT USSR ATTACKED ME

i feel myself like ww1 austria-hungary

[little compass]

I am once again asking for your support

I need templates for US navy

[heavy vigil]

@proud sparrow this is a good question, and also maybe make it more accessable

(i dont know)

[cursive oxide]

any tips for comie bulgaria ?

[cursive oxide]

takes to long to go from invite to annex focus 4x 70 focus like why

[bronze glade]

declare war to everyone

[cursive oxide]

why ?

[bronze glade]

get lands with a war

🔥

[prisma steppe]

doesnt australia get a focus branch thats beyond funny

[heavy vigil]

lets not bypass the filter, though the original question is valid

[sudden thistle]

Pixels

[cursive oxide]

?

[fair horizon]

no

[bronze glade]

i think it's not interesting if i won't summon romania into war

[sudden thistle]

Thanks autocorrect! “Pixels” should autocorrect to “picks!”

[prisma steppe]

the one to increase their manpower & population

[cursive oxide]

why to im bulfria i can not win agains my niebours weak army

[prisma steppe]

but back to my previos question do the mods have access to the banned words list

[heavy vigil]

i believe its somewhere, but im doing doing well right now + general lack of accessability is a fair concern to have.

[prisma steppe]

please re-review the list cause f-k word ist banned, really?

[cursive oxide]

@bronze glade

[bronze glade]

bro we were allies 😭

[bronze glade]

be strong

[prisma steppe]

Great War Redux a-hist moment

[cursive oxide]

did you every play them (bulgaria) ?

[bronze glade]

yes

[sudden thistle]

It’s so joever

[thick vector]

I'm crine son

[pearl chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/son-giftok-tom-tucker-family-guy-im-crine-gif-47048448267690577

[thick vector]

How can I compete with Great Britain?

[pearl chasm]

in my game they dont usally have that much airplanes

[sudden thistle]

Lock in

[thick vector]

What do you mean son?

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[vital cove]

stop making cas and make more fighters

this is not sustainable

losing 90 cas per day

make cas after you win the air war

[hollow yacht]

rong tèmplatè ig

[hollow yacht]

dont listèn ts guy btw

[vital cove]

what

you're not supposed to fly cas under red air ever and even under yellow air its very iffy

[fair horizon]

skill issue, i fly my cas all the time

if they die they die pushing me a tile

theres always more to replace them

[vital cove]

or y'know

instead of making more to replace them

you could use that ic

to make more fighters

and then make cas

and fly them under green air

getting more stats and more cas damage for less cost

[fair horizon]

unless they give australia a plane mio before the dlc then no

i will always lose the air war

but i can use the cas strategicly

[vital cove]

im not talking about using 100 cas somewhere with 300 fighters

that's whatever

im talking about building thousands of cas

and losing hundreds per day

(cas under red air don't even do anything at all)

[fair horizon]

losing hundreds is fine

[vital cove]

if you can sustain losing hundreds per day you can win the air war lol

[fair horizon]

not really

you'd be surprised how crap planes are without a mio

[sudden thistle]

Just produce more

[vital cove]

still winnable
also like
you need to make fighters regardless, red air cas are just worthless, you need to be at least yellow air for them to even do anything

[hollow yacht]

you want cas always up

[vital cove]

no you don't

[hollow yacht]

xd

[fair horizon]

you can get green air without a thousand planes if you use mothership planes

[hollow yacht]

guy if i havè 150 mils on planès and 10 on cas is finè

[fair horizon]

so you really dont need to win the air war

[cursive oxide]

non hist

i cant bro

[hollow yacht]

mothèrship is bait

[fair horizon]

its alright, they're not bad just expensive

way faster to get compared to supersonics too

[hollow yacht]

you will bè outradèd

[vital cove]

i mean sure? but you won't have cas for very long with 10 mills if you lose hundreds or even dozens per day

[fair horizon]

you actually win tbh

they do insane damage

[hollow yacht]

maybè build air dèfènsè

[fair horizon]

so you kill a ton of their planes

[hollow yacht]

doèsnt mattèr if 1 mothèrship cost morè than all thèy losè daily

and ypu will losè 4 or 5

[fair horizon]

its not that expensive

[hollow yacht]

it is if wè spèaking ic trading

[random sinew]

arent heavy fighters mre worth ti than mothership planes

[fair horizon]

then the motherships have won in my usage

[hollow yacht]

yè

[hollow yacht]

ai playèrs

mothèrship cant add mio also that hugè problèm btw

[fair horizon]

oh im sorry didnt realise i was talking in the multiplayer channel

lemme just ban fun while im at it

[hollow yacht]

sp you can win also with intèrwar

is just lèss èfficiènt

[fair horizon]

i play commie australia mostly i dont have a mio for regular planes even so this point is moot

[hollow yacht]

doèsnt australia has a bonus to rush improvèd

probably èvèn advancè, i am just saying its ic wisè using thèsè

[fair horizon]

I mean it probably does but also im a navy player so im busy doing that

[vital cove]

oh were you talking about mp
the entire conversation is was talking about sp lol, its very different

in mp you will fly cas under yellow air because you can't just win the air war

in sp winning the air war is not that hard

so there's really no reason not to win it and then use more cas

[hollow yacht]

yè kinda mistakèn thè conv on that

[hollow yacht]

idk i finish war bèforè fight war is finishèd

[vital cove]

i mean, if you aren't playing until 1947 the ai won't have that many planes up anyways

you won't lose that much

[mental mantle]

Leroy jenkins

[eternal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/leeroy-gif-348771154449152640

[little compass]

Y'all should I go with integrated operations, the new school or torpedo primacy?

Planning on having big battleships btw

[safe wing]

Gee I sure hope that the Wehrmacht don't try too overthrow me when I remilitrize the Rhineland - Hitler one March 10th 1936 or one day before the Rhineland plan

[restive sable]

why doesnt hitler just look at what focus germany is doing??? is he stupid???

[marble patio]

did they remove the hindenberg popup?

they just invaded poland and I havent seen anything for the whole run

it's usually how I tell wether or not d-day will be able to work without my direct intervention

if hindenberg happens germany gets uber ultra angry and wont let anybody get even close to a port

if it doesnt they are more chill

i doubt thats an actual variable but in my experience that's what it's been

[cursive oxide]

[pearl chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[tender bay]

Whats the best play with bulgaria in the great war redux mod? Its really hard to fight against 4 opponents in the second balkan war and i dont understand shi about the division templates? Any help on how to conquer the world with bulgaria in the great war redux?

[weary orchid]

bro

just help me 😭

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494561

[warped osprey]

are subs still bad or did the buffs help out?

[covert bobcat]

today all of hoi4 mps

have crashed

[willow gull]

not as good now

[random delta]

chat is this a good division design

[azure crescent]

Big number = good

[pearl chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/son-giftok-tom-tucker-family-guy-im-crine-gif-47048448267690577

[safe wing]

Coal in Minecraft >>> coal in hoi4

[buoyant star]

To late game, it can be

[random delta]

yeah i have like fully formed EU

[maiden bolt]

Destroy north korea

Play as usa

In md

And nuke north korea

[buoyant star]

also, anti-tanks in singleplayer are kinda useless since game AI dont put many tank divisions

[safe wing]

Why would I play MD

[maiden bolt]

To destroy North korea

[safe wing]

It’s nothing ever happens the game

[maiden bolt]

Play another Modern mod

And destroy North korea

Nuke them

Bomb them

[buoyant star]

So it will be NIICEEE

[random delta]

my mechanized equipment line is eating up 600 steel or something around that

[buoyant star]

Easy to solve, just conquer more to get more resources

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-the-frog-listening-to-music-dance-grooving-gif-16927052

[random delta]

no i have enough steel for it

i said FULLY FORMED EU

which means every possible core

[buoyant star]

Uk too?

[random delta]

yes

[marble patio]

NEVER do mechanized bro it is not worth it

i swear bro on wallahi

[random delta]

wallahi isnt a noun

[marble patio]

u need to both have a shitton of base resources and shitton of convoys or its not sustainable

[marble patio]

bomboclat wallalahi

[random delta]

i have the resources bro

[marble patio]

what nation are you

[random delta]

European Union

[marble patio]

oh damn ok

[buoyant star]

its for the roleplay🥵

[marble patio]

what did you start from

[random delta]

germany

[marble patio]

i still remember my days as a noob were i would do mechanized as facist luxembourg

worst mistake of my life bro

[marble patio]

germany can form the eu?

[buoyant star]

FUN

[marble patio]

it was hell bro i never got shit done

[buoyant star]

Yess, democratic germany

[random delta]

democrat germany still exists in base game son

it just sucks a little more

[marble patio]

yeah I know but I meant like the reich

[marble patio]

not nececarily

justify against france and then purposefully lose

[random delta]

no the facists cannot form the EU

[marble patio]

you will have democracy reinstated but can still do the facist path

and get all the good shit

[random delta]

orrrr what if i want to use the actual path

[marble patio]

you could also just do that

[random delta]

yes

and that is what i did

[marble patio]

the civil war is super easy and even if you think it's not justify against poland

[whole matrix]

i dont know what country should i play as

[random delta]

also funny democrat Anschluss

[marble patio]

how new are you

[whole matrix]

not new

[marble patio]

do facist canada

[random delta]

Hapsburg Hungary bro trust

[whole matrix]

its borning

and too easy

[marble patio]

i wanna see someone conquer north america and then the uk

[lost sand]

Who is have mod for Saudi arabia?

[random delta]

sonion said borning

[lost sand]

🇸🇦

[whole matrix]

ask paradox

[random delta]

play finland then or something

[whole matrix]

to update saudi arabia

this will work

[lost sand]

Reel?

[whole matrix]

trust

no cap

[fallen swift]

he might be from saudi arabia

i just have a feeling

[lost sand]

Why i say

For them

[fallen swift]

i love israel 🇧🇭

[lost sand]

Bahrain this

[fallen swift]

what does israel even have to do with ts 😭

Ok?

[whole matrix]

i love Jordan 🇺🇸

[lost sand]

I am want mod for Arabia

[fallen swift]

i am love Latvia 🇮🇱

[golden ibex]

Hey, I'm trying to play TFR and i cannot create custom plane, ship and tank design, do you guys know what the issue could be? I have all of the required DLCs

[near mortar]

Is ncns deep battle tactic branch good? I saw there is crazy reinforce rate, some handy buff here and there for mech and leg inf. However, isn't it outclassed by grand assult and others?

Is it better for defence? Like you get some really nice org and you're far more difficult to reinforce meme

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

[whole matrix]

i love South Korea 🇰🇵

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-slime-you-out-hb-slime-out-homeboy-gif-9626322112298630444

[sudden thistle]

I love Burkina Faso 🇧🇦

[sudden wasp]

vichy its a little over gang

[grave sonnet]

I'm a proud citizen of Burkina Faso ☝🏻

[safe wing]

I’m a proud Jordan citizen

[near mortar]

Is it cw map??

[wide osprey]

would you rather

or not

🧐

[near mortar]

Would.

[quiet vessel]

is there a mod to make like custom puppets

pick their territory, name them

if not there should be

[lean comet]

Real

[wide osprey]

would you rather

be eaten and ripped alive

or not

oh wait wrong channel

[stark elbow]

it would kinda be cheaty, you could make free cores where you want

[quiet vessel]

just dont give them cores

stupid puppets

[stark elbow]

how can a nation exist without cores...?

[quiet vessel]

i swear the reichskomerracts have no cores

idk how to spell

[stark elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[lean comet]

Yes so sure

[sudden thistle]

Lmao

[tender portal]

bruh

[steel spear]

Ive played HOI4 for almost 2 years

Ivr NEVER seen turkey join the axis

Never seen it join any wars unless Ive done something

[tender portal]

its monarchy germany

[steel spear]

But why is it when I play USSR

[tender portal]

idk

[steel spear]

It decided to join the axis

EVERYONE

Attacks me

Afganistan

Turkey

Everyone

[stark elbow]

historical?

[steel spear]

Yes

[stark elbow]

well ig if it happened once, it can always happen

[steel spear]

I hate this game so much

[sudden thistle]

Well um that doesn’t happen on historical

[tender portal]

Yeah

[sudden thistle]

Did u do ANY alt hist stuff

[steel spear]

I was doing good and I get a pop up that says stalingrad falls

[tender portal]

That Crazy that Switerland Became facist And joined axis in 1939

[steel spear]

Nope😭

I did everything historically

[sudden thistle]

Holy tunnel vision

[steel spear]

Also japan attacked me

So thats

Fun also

[sudden thistle]

Then historical wasn’t on then I guess

That has never happened to me

[steel spear]

It was 100%😭

I got bad luck then ig💔💔

[tender portal]

Oh

[steel spear]

Never playing USSR again

[tender portal]

I'd Like the game add White Peace

[stark elbow]

tho what happens to me as ussr is that japan declares war on me after danish liberation

[steel spear]

🥲

[tender portal]

CUZ i CANT PEACE

[steel spear]

When I play Germany I bet its gonna be the same, everyone gonna attack me

I hate this game so bad but I also love it

[stark elbow]

peace is a mechanic that works as intended only in multiplayer

[tender portal]

I dont Know is is the HOI4 system Or Just me Pretending being Dumb

[sudden wasp]

Nah it’s ww2 with a fancy map mod

[opaque zinc]

I have

It usually depends on what dlc you have

Because when I had no dlc

Countries were just declaring on eachother for fun

[hallow thistle]

yo quick question, when gets the event "The yalta conference" triggered? Like when germany hits a certain amount of capitulation rate or something like that? And if yes, what is it?

[opaque zinc]

You know how many times I’ve seen Switzerland get attacked by Italy

[azure crescent]

Who’s the last general on hoi4’s banner like the dude next to Zhukov

[prisma steppe]

holy shizophrenia

[round pivot]

admiral yamamoto i think

[prisma steppe]

who would win this battle royale, all nations have generic foci and 100 factories, pop & rescources are diffrent tho

2 Years prep time

[sudden thistle]

Ummm

Soviets or UK

[prisma steppe]

uk only has the shown land, no colonies

buut there is a neutral nation with 29k of each rescource

[bright hare]

prob germany

cuz

idk js germany

[prisma steppe]

soviets somehow allways win, uk caps before they even reach the island & italy gets focued first, with germany suffering too many casulties early on to be effektive

[bright hare]

js boost germany planning

[prisma steppe]

they accumulate 3mio casulties in 1 year and suffer from no-equipment-eastern-front-syndrome til they lose

[bright hare]

hmmm

then prob ussr

[prisma steppe]

but germany does the best, doesnt win tho

idk its open? do a little bit of micro

[pearl chasm]

get some cas there or push with good tanks

what

just trade for oil gng or conquer places with oil

[bronze glade]

ggs

the third reich is selling to allies

my army can't hold meat of italy

[pearl chasm]

Press r it will open the trade menu press on the oil icon and choose any country to trade oil with

[tender portal]

Dont Judge me For that, Its just Paradox

[near mortar]

For vanilla ussr, which main doctrine to pick? Is it gdp as always?

[tender portal]

Its FR

How i do Naval Invasions

I Know the "Naval Support invasion"

And More that 70% of Dominance

[weak wing]

Generally GBP is the best pick

Heard this is meta

[near mortar]

Yeah but how do I consistently get planning as ussr? And why do I need planning to defend?

[weak wing]

Eh, I think majors like USSR or Germany have their own best picks

[near mortar]

Large unit tactics are so overrated honestly

[weak wing]

Why though? again, it depends on who you're playing

[near mortar]

I mean they're good for pure inf builds, but if you do tanks as well, assault infantry or individual excellence are much better

[bronze glade]

watch for bonuses

[weak wing]

Germany should go with motorised builds, no?

[near mortar]

Mobile infantry quite mid

[bronze glade]

it depends on your game tactic

[weak wing]

Is mass assault even viable?

[near mortar]

The main doc you mean?

[weak wing]

Don't play Germany, can't tell

[weak wing]

Yes, for Russia

[near mortar]

All the guides say it is very horrible in any case

It gives nothing useful relatively to spf or gdp

[weak wing]

Currently probably yes

Yet whenever I see someone play USSR, they pick mass assault

Larp larp larp

[near mortar]

I hope they rebalance the docs. the "rework" us really fun but they didn't fix the problem of "one thing is OP and literally anything else is garbage"

[near mortar]

I mean it got better

[near mortar]

Before, mass assault was s tier

[fading pier]

best is Grand Battle Plan?

[near mortar]

Generally yes, it is a no brainer pick

[weak wing]

I feel like they will abandon the game after Thunder at our gates

[fading pier]

hoi5 confirmed?!!?

[weak wing]

It's been like exactly 10 years

[fading pier]

nawg bro, my pc aint affording hoi5

[near mortar]

With the crazy amount of dlcs I dont think they will come up with hoi5

[weak wing]

I haven't been playing for the past couple weeks when I realised it runs like shit for me

Late game

[fading pier]

use Spot Optimization

[weak wing]

I don't play vanilla often

[fading pier]

Spot Optimization works for every mod?!!

it just fixes visual bugs and stuff can cause lag

[weak wing]

Hm, I'll try

I thought it fixes some specific things

Like irrelevant minors

[primal timber]

if you tell the clausewitz engine to use more than 1 CPU core a panzer IV shows up at your house and fires an HE shell into your room

[fading pier]

its not irrelevant especially when you are playing with people outside ur country

[weak wing]

Ffs it's a problem

[weak wing]

I don't quite get you

[fading pier]

i misunderstoof

sryy

[fading pier]

it fixes the map and some visual stuff

idk

read the description

[weak wing]

Very vague

"What does it try to achieve and how? Thanks in advance."
"it speeds the game up"

[weak wing]

Spot on

[pearl chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-looksmax-sigma-sigma-face-gif-232308269668432623

[sudden thistle]

Look at eu4

[weak wing]

Jeez eu4

Good morning sunshine

12 years of updates

[crisp wyvern]

Yall ain't like me

I'm the guy still stuck in update 1.16.10 🥀

[grizzled yarrow]

Hmm yes not bad

[loud shuttle]

i call this the nikolai line

[buoyant star]

what is the plan playing as ww1 russia?

wait until germany ans austria run out manpower and attack?

[loud shuttle]

i guess

cause if i dont then ill get a civilwar

[buoyant star]

all fine

[loud shuttle]

or until usa steps in

[buoyant star]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-10093852890875433850

[indigo elk]

I hate port garrisoning in this game. It's like so braindead. Absolutely devestate France and my game looks real good, then I check North Africa and those crappy expedition units the AI spams me just get wiped out of their garrison role and my forces in Tripoli end up completely surrounded. 230k casualties because I relied on useless units and the game doesn't meaningfully alert you to naval invasions.

Completely ruined my mood to play this save now.

[lilac ginkgo]

It does alert you

Theres a big ass sound that you should hear

[indigo elk]

I didn't hear no sound.

[lilac ginkgo]

and maybe use actual good port garrison divs instead of the game made ones

[lilac ginkgo]

well there's one

and you should hear it

its like a long beep

[indigo elk]

Which is fair enough, but in that case don't give me those shitty expedition units.

Legit pointless foddere

[lilac ginkgo]

if you don't want expeditionary divs just say no to them

[indigo elk]

You automatically recieve them. Suppose I could just disband.

[lilac ginkgo]

Those are puppet divisions

[sudden thistle]

German command 1944

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah disband them

[lilac ginkgo]

Well

Not really

it was more like "hitler wake up tanks are rolling in Normandy"

but hitler goes like "leave me alone dont wake me up until 12 imbeciles"

[indigo elk]

Guess its a redo! At least I get to sink the Royal Navy again, that never gets boring.

[sudden thistle]

It’s a joke

[lilac ginkgo]

I know

I was also making a joke

[sudden thistle]

That’s a terrible joke then

[lilac ginkgo]

Well im pretty sure

Its also what happened

it is

the guards were too scared to wake him up from his beauty sleep

gang am I that unfunny

[supple sable]

no you are very funny

[lilac ginkgo]

am I

[supple sable]

yes

good joke

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah thanks

[fallen swift]

i never get the naval invasion sound

i will be focused on like the eastern front or something as sweden, i look at sweden itself and theres 50 soviet divisions in stockholm for some reason

[indigo elk]

Maybe I should just draw fall back lines to cover ports manually because the garrison function is crap. It'll make me more active in defending them too I guess.

[lilac ginkgo]

how

I always get it

try to have sound on

like from the settings

ingame

[lilac ginkgo]

no you can use naval garrisons but just have good defense divs

[indigo elk]

You can but then you have AI moving units all the time. Risky business when you're fighting the RN in the med

[snow rain]

once again someone giving up amazing terrain just to go behind a river that doesn't protect anything 😭

[sudden thistle]

Frontline is fun anyways

[hardy aspen]

im starting to think that making new game engine doesn't cost earth value

[snow rain]

do frontline or one of these green/blue lines with their yellow extensions
and, if you need to hold the dnieper, at least hold the yellow parts too

[snow rain]

creating a new game engine is a titan task. A just-build-a-new-game-from-scratch task

[hardy aspen]

I think it's 25% gaslighting 25% copium 25% truth 25% half truth

new game engine is not titanical task

[snow rain]

for a game that is at the end of its life cycle and has so many mechanics implemented + a DLC system, it clearly is

[near jungle]

whats the point of annexing if u can just make every country u conquer a puppet? geniuinly asking i just started 2 days ago

[snow rain]

annexing is almost always better than puppet

[near jungle]

how? u have to put a lot of divs there

[snow rain]

what do you want to puppet

[near jungle]

it takes garrisons and also u have to put cavs down to make then not rebel

[snow rain]

puppet = you don't get as much industry and resources from it

[near jungle]

im playing germany and i did anchulass and then i did fate of chechoslovakia now

[unique cliff]

which one here is worth it?

[snow rain]

the garrison is only an issue if there are big resistance modifiers or if it's all empty land with big VPs

[misty fossil]

@craggy trail

[snow rain]

or if you're small country with no manpower, but even then, 30% compliance makes you benefit from the local manpower than what you use in garrisons

[snow rain]

assault inf
individual excellence

large unit is fine too
militia is good for PRC

[near jungle]

should i annex chechoslovakia then?

[snow rain]

always

[near jungle]

btw what focuses do i do? in my last save i did anchulass to fate of chechoslovakia and then rome berlin axis and then molotov ribbentrop and then danzig or war and then around maginot and then war with france and then tannenbaum and then weserubung and then demand to sweden and then sea lion

[snow rain]

do your industry and army focuses

and inner circle

[oblique oracle]

Anyone wanna play

??

[near jungle]

yeah but in terms of historical is that the right order

[snow rain]

#historical-multiplayer #alt-history-multiplayer

[snow rain]

you want to do historical with berlin moscow axis
something's wrong

also, idrk

pretty sure norway and denmark invasion came before benelux

[wide osprey]

now i wanna play both stellaris and eaw

😠

[static flower]

Any Saudis here?

[wide osprey]

nooooo they want to delete discord

😭

[lilac ginkgo]

what a tragedy

it will be missed

[wide osprey]

one thing i don't like in navy is that i can't tell if this modern ship or not

[misty fossil]

nah

bro doesnt play with vnr

those are nice icons tho

are they vanilla icons or eaw

[weak magnet]

i released east india company but how do i become them?

[winged field]

you have to click on play as before releasing

[lusty shuttle]

guys i want to produce military equipment but there isnt an option to produce that

[grave sonnet]

You don't nothing researched or add a check mark on the steel

[lusty shuttle]

im dumb

and i checked to see if i have something unmarked

[grave sonnet]

You just made a mistake no big deal

Also I see you playing greece

Good luck hope you win against turkey

[wide osprey]

yooo what's this

[potent thistle]

Are we allowed to post screen shots of mods here?

[lusty shuttle]

thanks

[grave sonnet]

No you get permanently banned /j

But yeah you are allowed

As long as there's no

"unique" symbols

On display

[potent thistle]

Okay sounds good

[potent thistle]

Ahhh the Philippines

I see

[grave sonnet]

Yeah and that hindu symbol tilted 45°

[modest cloak]

Yoo cool pfp its from Bosnia right?

[grave sonnet]

Yessir

[grave sonnet]

From a war video

[potent thistle]

I have unite Russia in TNOre under the Army of St. George and it was so cool. However I had a strange thing where I think it glitches and I got a never ending economic collapse

I really liked this path

[modest cloak]

lore accurate?

[potent thistle]

Yesssir

[grave sonnet]

Tno would be a big better if they stopped economy

I hate that

[lusty shuttle]

guys btw i want a tip to win wars,precisely against bulgaria as greece.I cant win against them even though i have good supply,good equipjment and nice amount of equipment

[potent thistle]

Soon we will take back Moscow and reinstate the orthodox church in St. Basil's

[modest cloak]

what about Air support? and templates?

[grave sonnet]

I usually just build a port on the Turkish border and breakthrough with SPG space marines

[potent thistle]

Yeah I agree pretty much. It isn't terribly bad, but a real pain to wrap your head around when you first see it

I think the update with red warning signs is good

[lusty shuttle]

i use airforce but with what i have i dont care abt producing airplanes

[potent thistle]

I also think maybe do what OWBs does where it allows you to turn off the economy

[lusty shuttle]

is this enough or do i need more

[grave sonnet]

Add more

[vernal beacon]

is this good enough to overthrow sweden

[grave sonnet]

I would make SPGs and just make a 8/1 SPG

[lusty shuttle]

whats spg

[vernal beacon]

right now i dont have many troops but i will get more

[grave sonnet]

Wait do you have NSB?

[grave sonnet]

Why would you need Sweden as Non Aligned Finland?

[lusty shuttle]

dude i dont know what all these are

[vernal beacon]

im fascist

[grave sonnet]

NSB - no step back

[lusty shuttle]

is that like a dlc

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

Best DLC

It gives you tank designer

Which is very helpful

[lusty shuttle]

i have all dlc and cosmetics idk how to call them

[grave sonnet]

Ic

But yeah at that point I would just build a block of Mountaeers

(or infantry if you are capped with mountneers)

[buoyant star]

indeed

Best DLC so far

[lusty shuttle]

isnt that going to drain my manpower

[grave sonnet]

It is yes

Division take mp

[lusty shuttle]

isnt that goind to be a big problem

going

if i research these where do i use them

do i put them in templates or is it a whole new division

[grave sonnet]

Bro just research tanks and use them

[buoyant star]

I think mechanized are more like optional stuff

Tanks are SO much better anyway

[round pivot]

mechanised are the best defensive battalions in the game

but u should use mech with tanks

or if u can afford it as infantry they do amazing defensively

[buoyant star]

Exactly

[round pivot]

just remember to put clicks into the production cost upgrade so it goes from 8ic to 4 ic

[lusty shuttle]

and i light tank division what do i put

just the tanks

[round pivot]

for tank divisions u wanna have like 7 mech batallions and 11 tank battallions

so it comes to 36 width

dont forget support companies tho

like armoured/assault engineers, siginal, field hospital

[smoky burrow]

when ur playing soviet union agaisnt aı make two full field marshalls of infantry, put the first army on german border and second army to hungarian and romanian borders, micro when you see a red bubble and they wont take a single tile

[manic iris]

chat i wanna start a new run any fun ideas ( not too hard i still just have less than 100 hours

[misty fossil]

Go for a run outside and talk to women

[lapis onyx]

Someone please tell.me how naval supply bases work cus they sure as shit aint extending any ranges

[pure crown]

this is fine

[loud shuttle]

finally

[whole matrix]

i never downloading hoi4 from temu ever again

[pure crown]

The great war redux

[pine shale]

how does designing divsions work

and which should i design

[loud shuttle]

yea

[pure rampart]

there's lots of guides for it if you google, your prio should probably be to get a good infantry division

then tank division I guess if you want later on

[winged field]

watch segl for template designs

[misty fossil]

People after switching to free trade

[pine shale]

should i learn how it work or just use meta im new

[misty fossil]

Just use meta

[pine shale]

whats meta

[misty fossil]

Check pinned in #ask-for-help-here

[pure crown]

export focus

[misty fossil]

Yikes

[misty fossil]

And never use line artillery

Anyone who tells you to is high

[pure rampart]

wait that's export focus? wtf lol

[pine shale]

ok

[pure crown]

yugh

[pine shale]

and is it cheating to use console to make the country im playing communist right away cuz it has no focus tree so it takes forever

[cursive oxide]

Yes

[cursive oxide]

What nation?

[pure rampart]

what's 'cheating' is 100% up to you, whatever you feel is the most fun

[pine shale]

turkey

[pure rampart]

although console as a whole can't be used for achievements so I guess it's technically 'cheating'

[pine shale]

idc abt achivements

[untold cove]

hoi4 battle royale mod when

[cursive oxide]

It gets a tree

[pine shale]

any1 else not care abt achivement

[pine shale]

not in vanilla

[pure rampart]

yea I don't care much either, sometimes I do them

[untold cove]

turkey has a communist focus tree, if you have battle for the bosphorus dlc

[cursive oxide]

The base focus tree is not bad at al

[pure rampart]

I've got like 25% of the total ones

[cursive oxide]

Aslo why turkey?

[misty fossil]

Its never cheating

You paid for the game

Dont let other people tell you what is cheating

[pure crown]

🥀

[untold cove]

well it technically disables achievements you know

and he wants achievements

[misty fossil]

yea

Oh

[cursive oxide]

@pine shale You need a guide for Easy achievements?

[pure rampart]

he said he didn't care about achievements

[pine shale]

romania is my fav country to play lol

[pure rampart]

^

[untold cove]

who are we ttalking about again

[pure rampart]

yea it's quite fun

[pine shale]

why does he not go over attack division? https://youtu.be/64bytRN3t-k?si=2QXvHtzkyQZMEd2p

[cursive oxide]

Never played them

[pure rampart]

scoofy

[untold cove]

oh aight

[pure rampart]

attack divisions are either special forces or the "supporting" divisions, in that vid

[cursive oxide]

What I use is sup art sup engineer sup AA if I can afford it and 9 Infantry

[pure rampart]

you generally don't want to attack with 'normal' infantry unless you have line artillery and doctrines to increase the attack

[pure rampart]

exact same here

logistics companies if I'm in like Africa or something

[cursive oxide]

Or China

[pure rampart]

true

[pine shale]

what i shoukld atack with?

[cursive oxide]

As turkey?

[pine shale]

and how many defensive vs attack infantry should i make

[winged field]

what were you attacking with so many casualties?

[cursive oxide]

Depends on what's you can afford

[pure rampart]

mountaineers if it's mountains and you have them, else tanks. If the enemy is very inferior you can use infantry as well

and if you can, make planes

[pure crown]

Big germany

[pine shale]

what i should do with my infantry then?

[pure rampart]

infantry+CAS planes generally works against the AI

[cursive oxide]

Make you're army standerd first

[pure rampart]

if you have lots of CAS

[pure rampart]

fill the lines/defend, so your attacking divisions don't have to worry about filling the entire line

[pine shale]

thats what i been doing XD cause tanks take forever

[pure rampart]

yea it's quite effective against AI lol, and easy to use

[pine shale]

idk much abt this game so i just put battleplan and go

[pure rampart]

you could try just like 3 tank divisions

to learn to use them

[winged field]

big block infantry also works

:>

[cursive oxide]

USSR be like

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-braveheart-charge-attack-gif-11448206846315415195

[quasi osprey]

huh I am on historical.......

[pure rampart]

yea if you're playing someone like China or the Soviets spamming infantry can kinda work as long as you have manpower to support it

[pine shale]

is this not good

[lethal ether]

tanks are very goated

[pure rampart]

it is not good at all, no

needs to be bigger, and support companies

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-biggest-peice-of-dogshit-peice-of-shit-gif-13354334831488207353

[pure rampart]

but 50/50 with tanks and motorized is fine

[pine shale]

can u give me a good one

[snow rain]

you have no step back DLC ?

[cursive oxide]

More tank and car

[pine shale]

no

[cursive oxide]

And support

[quasi osprey]

Is this an ok marine division?

[cursive oxide]

Expensive

[pine shale]

i dont got that many slots

[cursive oxide]

Yes

[pure rampart]

you could do something like 6 tanks and 6 motorized, and add support artillery, enginneers and support AA. In general I try to keep the "organization"-stat above 30 at least, otherwise the tank to truck ratio should be as high as possible

[snow rain]

you have

[quasi osprey]

ok I want to invade cuba when ww2 starts so I will need some marines

[pure rampart]

you can add more on the right

[dusky burrow]

no

[pure rampart]

if you have the xp

[cursive oxide]

3 tank and 4 car wil work

[snow rain]

no

[snow rain]

not at all

best stat/cost ratio

[pine shale]

this?

[snow rain]

also, didn't half the cost of the mech in the screenshot

[lethal ether]

bro no this wont work

[lethal ether]

^^^^

[snow rain]

you need way more, and use cav or inf until you have mech

[pure rampart]

I'd add another tank to it at least, and support companies

[pine shale]

what is mech

[lethal ether]

mechanized

[cursive oxide]

Add support @pine shale

[pure rampart]

mechanized, you unlock it through research later on

[snow rain]

look at what I sent

if you can't make it a 32 combat width at bare minimum, don't make tanks at all

[lethal ether]

"at least"??? he needs 34 or 36 combat width

[pine shale]

so in beginning of game dont make it

[snow rain]

truck 3 research if you prefer

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[pine shale]

this is good?

[dusky burrow]

i guess you could go for 30, but that's really the minimum

[dusky burrow]

add aa, i wouldn't trust the german ai but remove engineers

[pure rampart]

I usually do 32 width, with as many tanks as possible keeping org above 30

[dusky burrow]

unless you want to go field engineering in which case you aren't doing tanks

[pure rampart]

that's fine, but support anti-air is also nice to have in it

[pine shale]

this division stuff is confusing xd

[pure rampart]

otherwise yea

[pine shale]

idk how it works at all

maybe im just stupid

[pure rampart]

it just takes a a lot of playing or watching vids to learn

[lethal ether]

soft attack = dmg against infantry, hard = against tanks, org = how much ur divisions can fight for,
each tile has a combat width (meaning how many divisions can fight) so the bigger ur division the less that can fit in combat in that tile

this is basically really shortly explained

[pure rampart]

yep

and soft attack is generally what's best against the AI, since it barely uses tanks(at least not effectively)

[pine shale]

should i just use this one that he said

[pure rampart]

organization isn't anything to worry too much about if it's not dangerously low

[lethal ether]

if u have the industry for it

then yes

use the first one cuz u its cheaper

ure playing romania rn right?

[tropic remnant]

dont think ts is savable

[lethal ether]

i saw in a previous image

[proud tapir]

tested the correct focus tree for Australia before the dlc

yeah

[lethal ether]

how did this happen?

[eternal aspen]

Germany it seems

[lethal ether]

show full screen

[proud tapir]

man this is awful

[pine shale]

ys

[tropic remnant]

i was focusing on britain

[lethal ether]

show full screen

[tropic remnant]

then all of a sudden austria declared war on ussr

and ussr declared war on me

[tropic remnant]

its absolute cinema

[lethal ether]

show it

[pine shale]

i dont even have this thing only tanks

[lethal ether]

self propelled artillery

u gotta research it

[pure rampart]

that one's definitely good, but it needs a lot of tech to be unlocked so will be a while till you can get that

[pine shale]

so what one i should make in the beginning

[tropic remnant]

i just realised i got no manpower

[snow rain]

it's an SPG (arty tank)
research the explosion on the light tank research card

[lethal ether]

the first one he sent

[tropic remnant]

• no oil

[dusky burrow]

most tank divisions you will face with vanilla are like 50% hardness, so they will take 50% soft and 50% hard damage so there people recommend SPGs
if you're in a multiplayer situation the tanks there are like 80% hardness and there are 62% hardness mech divisions so that's why people recommend tank destroyers

[snow rain]

appart from medium tank (1938) and mech (1940), it's all 36 tech

[pine shale]

that also had self propelled artillarly

[tropic remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-skibidi-fortnite-war-nezy-fortnite-horrors-of-war-gif-7547138492306625384

[lethal ether]

how is air looking? ure not in a dangerous position ure just battleplanning and wasting equipment and manpower

[dusky burrow]

well interwar mediums are fine for this purpose

[snow rain]

this one is 1936 tech all around

[lethal ether]

u can research that in 50 days or smt

[tender bay]

Whats the great war scuffed?

[dusky burrow]

probably also get yourself easy maintenance (1939) or armor skirts (1938)

[tropic remnant]

my air is surprisingly good

I got green air over the east and turkey

[pure rampart]

he doesn't have NSB

[dusky burrow]

oh i see

[pine shale]

ty

[dusky burrow]

then yeah do what francis says

[lethal ether]

show, also pls show logistics tab

[tender bay]

?

[tropic remnant]

its jover

[topaz drum]

Is it true that building light cruisers only is the naval meta?

[lethal ether]

this is a resiult of all ur battleplanning

[serene breach]

i feel this is good

[tropic remnant]

very

[proud tapir]

yk i never really used SPGs, thx for the template. SPGs seem nice for a minor

[lethal ether]

this is good only if u dont have nsb

[topaz drum]

Nsb?

[lethal ether]

no step bakc

dlc

[topaz drum]

Ah

[proud tapir]

i have nsb, but i mean for minors that cant build enough mediums when they need to

a couple of light SPGs could work to max out soft attack

[pine shale]

i still dont have that hing u have

[lethal ether]

isnt the meta for nsb spgs anyways? like fully replace them with spgs?

[pulsar saffron]

well this is awkward

[topaz drum]

I usually just build one or two divisions with lots of SPGs and only attack with it and some nearby infantry divisions

[pulsar saffron]

beat the allies in 38 in my first ever japan run with no guide

[topaz drum]

And build more as time goes on

[pulsar saffron]

except its technically not a japan run

its a korea run

i wanted to give korea the best possible situation before tagging over to them and i got greedy

[proud tapir]

idk, for majors i mostly use classic mediums+motorized/mechanized

And for minors, line arty because i never really paid attention to SPGs, especaly light SPGs

[pure rampart]

if you check the light tank icon in the research, there should be a smaller button within it to research self-propelled artillery

[proud tapir]

cheap and high soft attack

[tropic remnant]

its cooked

[pure rampart]

I think, haven't played non-NSB in a while

[proud tapir]

i might try them with a minor to check them out

[lethal ether]

u can defo win it

[pulsar saffron]

now im going to disband the entire army, lend lease everything to korea, tag over, go communist, paradrop japan

boom

[snow rain]

#hoi4-general message

[pulsar saffron]

half the world is kim il sung

[tropic remnant]

the flank has fallen

[tropic remnant]

i dont think so

somehow the soviets can defeat me even though my attack is high?

[proud tapir]

@pine shale dont stress too much as a begginer, you will learn with time. HOI4 has a big learning curve

[lethal ether]

maybe because that attack only exists on paper and your divisions have no equipment?

[proud tapir]

or supply

[lethal ether]

look up he sent over his logistics tab

[topaz drum]

I'd only use line artillery if I had no way to get more oil. SPGs are just way better

[lethal ether]

he is missing 100k inf equipment

[proud tapir]

or air superiority

[proud tapir]

😭

[lethal ether]

line arty and spgs are a whole different thing

line arty is bad

[proud tapir]

son they are fighting with bare hands against PPSH equipped soviet troops

no wonder the flank has fallen

[pine shale]

takes some years until u can start making units

[tropic remnant]

they do but

idfk whats wrong

😭

[lethal ether]

whats wrong is ure battleplanning an already losing war and ure missing 100k infantry equipment

[tropic remnant]

i only got -10k weapons hm

[lethal ether]

oh

not 100k?

i mustve seen wrong

[tropic remnant]

nvm it is 100k

my bad

whoopsies

[proud tapir]

As Romania i would not make any navy to save steel as you wont need it

[lethal ether]

i didnt see wrong

[tropic remnant]

its 100.3k now

[pure rampart]

yea it definitely does, that's fine. Prioritize the production research, and don't hesitate to build more military factories since it's already dec 37

[pine shale]

idk how resourcesa work XD

[lethal ether]

maybe because you keep on battleplanning?

[proud tapir]

Tbh navy is a whole diffirent beast in itself, its not hard tbf. Hoi4 players just refuse to learn it

[tropic remnant]

now 103.7k

laughs in deficit

[pure rampart]

also you're missing quite a lot of steel, I'd import some if I were you. Your tanks are producing way slower because of it

[lethal ether]

show air combat

[tropic remnant]

ok im holding them back somehow

hold on

[topaz drum]

Use the naval dockyards for convoys to save steel

[tropic remnant]

im cooking

[prisma light]

есть русские с кем можно поиграть?

[lethal ether]

ure not

ure missing 100k infantry equipment

show casualty screen

[untold cove]

son how did you even reached british

[tropic remnant]

not that bad

[pure rampart]

if you don't have enough of a resource, production of equipment that's missing resources gets slowed. You can either build infrastructure in states that have the resource you're missing, or import more from the "trade" tab

[lethal ether]

???

if u take more than 500k casualties as germany that means u fumbled very bad