hoi4-general

[opal nymph]

That's why you lose

[open osprey]

strong

hitler is strong

in HOI4

[safe wing]

He’s got hands who would have thought

[azure walrus]

should i do this for the funny

[opal nymph]

You just tell the army to go in one direction and ignore everything else

[upbeat tundra]

that guy is a chinese fraudster btw

[open osprey]

no

i just drag the closest armies

to the capital

[opal nymph]

You said you just right click the capital

[upbeat tundra]

s o n i on

[open osprey]

nooo only the closest

[upbeat tundra]

ofc ur losing

[kind river]

Not even artillery added like 2 arty?

[open osprey]

THEN TEACH ME

SONION MY ASS

[opal nymph]

I usually don't

[hoary glen]

screenahare

[dusky burrow]

oh rip they nerfed de gaulle

[open osprey]

ALR

[opal nymph]

When you rush guns, your inf are able to attack

[azure walrus]

im vichy btw

[kind river]

you recommend or no

[open osprey]

vc

[opal nymph]

I do not recommend

You can if you want

[hoary glen]

@opal nymph join

[upbeat tundra]

this is the base german army and itll kill the dutch easily

just use offencive line

[dusky burrow]

i see, but de gaulle apparently used to give a 10% boost overall

[open osprey]

Helping Lounge?

[opal nymph]

He still gives 10% speed

[upbeat tundra]

@open osprey

[open osprey]

I literally

did that

shi

and still managed to lose

[open osprey]

im crying

[upbeat tundra]

evidently not

[azure walrus]

petainist paradox 😠

[upbeat tundra]

you say you RIGHT click the capital

[open osprey]

man powah 0

[upbeat tundra]

thats different

[open osprey]

pow pow pow

[upbeat tundra]

im doing this with the base divs and base german army

[hoary glen]

yea

[open osprey]

join

[upbeat tundra]

it should look like this

[dusky burrow]

either way if you are doing aggressive focus you're doing it for gamelin and not de gaulle

[opal nymph]

Isnt de Gaulle a theorist

[hoary glen]

@opal nymph @opal nymph joinm

[dusky burrow]

except it shouldn't because you shouldn't be using light tanks

[opal nymph]

No

[dusky burrow]

yes

[upbeat tundra]

what ur doing @open osprey is your right clicking on the capital which makes it like this

[opal nymph]

I'm not joining vc

[dusky burrow]

problem with de gaulle is that he only boosts mobile warfare and also speed

[azure walrus]

true, so should i do air dominance instead or is the difference negligible enough for me to go for the funny option

[upbeat tundra]

im demonstrating using the base german army

[dusky burrow]

if you're using air then go air dominance

[upbeat tundra]

the base german army u get at the start of the game

[opal nymph]

I just remembered France cannot doctrine to save their life

[hoary glen]

@upbeat tundra join bc

[opal nymph]

So I see the problem

[dusky burrow]

the air buffs are quite nice

[upbeat tundra]

im good

[dusky burrow]

france can doctrine but probably not be finished by 1940 tbh

but they have a lot of nerfs

[opal nymph]

Wait, you are supposed to finish doctrine by 1940...

[dusky burrow]

this is wild

[opal nymph]

I finish wars before max doctrine...

[heavy vigil]

depends on if youre a meta gamer

[dusky burrow]

well germany does and soviets can

[opal nymph]

Meta this, meta that, but have you ever met a girl?

[heavy vigil]

yeah you can conquer the world by 40

[dusky burrow]

i mean...

[upbeat tundra]

imo historical div templates are always more fun then meta ones

[opal nymph]

I just like that phrase lol

[dusky burrow]

also yeah

[hoary glen]

@open osprey areu drunk

[upbeat tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKZ0BmakwE

[opal nymph]

The most fun i had in hoi4 recently was armored car UK with 20 km/h divisions

That was peak

[dusky burrow]

fair

[upbeat tundra]

u should try the 32 km divs

[dusky burrow]

thanks trotsky

[opal nymph]

Is that with German MIOs?

[hoary glen]

go mil factory

[wet flicker]

my shock troop template goes hard

[hoary glen]

ur production

[opal nymph]

Because I did the UK for Alan Brooke's 15% extra speed

[hoary glen]

@opal nymph how to stop losing to netherland as germany

[upbeat tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCVDWuMchI

[opal nymph]

You know what's funny

[upbeat tundra]

shock divs with cav instead of motorized/mech

[opal nymph]

Helicopters slowed my division down

I couldn't use helicopters as support companies

And motorized recon slowed down my motorized divisions

[wet flicker]

motherfuckers dont know about true horsepower twin 💯

[hoary glen]

dlete light tanks

[upbeat tundra]

ig its free meat when the horses die

[dusky burrow]

isn't it only the helicopter brigade that slows you down

[hoary glen]

set planes to 1 each

[wet flicker]

nah fr you see that low supply

[hoary glen]

put everything on guns

[wet flicker]

they need something to eat out there

[azure walrus]

is ts good fighter for 1939

[wet flicker]

bruh my pen just wont hit at all and its charged

anybody got a fix for a young bull

[hoary glen]

150

[opal nymph]

I had to use AC recon because the motorized slowed down my divisions and couldn't get the stat buffs

Motorized recon*

[hoary glen]

it for aunchluss

[dusky burrow]

do you have by blood alone dlc?

[hoary glen]

yeah

[opal nymph]

Like my motorized divisions were slowed down by my motorized recon

[hoary glen]

create a sep inf with just men

[heavy vigil]

are we fr

[dusky burrow]

maybe they changed it but i don't recall that happening

[dusky burrow]

idiot

[opal nymph]

Because motorized recon was slower than my motorized battalions

[dusky burrow]

but they don't have MIOs is what i'm saying

[opal nymph]

My battalions got stats, but not the recon company

[dusky burrow]

i'm an idiot i mean, not you

[azure walrus]

yes

[hoary glen]

separate

[heavy vigil]

screenshotting out of context when i get on my pc tomorrow

[hoary glen]

do it later

when u haave army exp

[upbeat tundra]

i gotchu bro

[dusky burrow]

see ya then

[heavy vigil]

ty

[hoary glen]

train ur planes and navy

[dusky burrow]

by the way which country is this

[upbeat tundra]

EW A LIGHT MODE USER

[azure walrus]

vichy france

[upbeat tundra]

CRUCIFY HIM

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[opal nymph]

Read bio lol

[hoary glen]

uea

[opal nymph]

I got Stockholm syndrome

I used it as a joke, and then got used to it and cannot switch back

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ew-dude-1--k01KRMPH62PR89GW0FN9878C38B

[cedar kite]

😭

[hoary glen]

press the admiral

[dusky burrow]

on the list of places that you should probably naval invade

[hoary glen]

like genral

[dusky burrow]

it literally took me more time to conquer sweden than the uk in one playthrough

[heavy vigil]

liv whats the best way to cap sweden

[open osprey]

blud gave up 😭

[heavy vigil]

random question

[open osprey]

come back yo

😔

[opal nymph]

Best way to cap Sweden is to paradrop the mines to make sure they dont explode

[dusky burrow]

naval invade stockholm and lulea or have/be norway

[heavy vigil]

jonathan i have a different question for you

[upbeat tundra]

annex norway and just cross

[dusky burrow]

and also that, but strangely enough i've never seen them explode the mines

[heavy vigil]

as rapa nui, how invade places?

[opal nymph]

Go communist and do naval tech

[gilded wasp]

Which annoying DLC added that again?

[heavy vigil]

?? why go to war with norway for no reason

[gilded wasp]

Never once had sweden blow the mines in my games.

[opal nymph]

AAT

[dusky burrow]

arms against tyranny i assume?

[opal nymph]

Great dlc imo

[gilded wasp]

Ah.

[gilded wasp]

Because.

Funny

[upbeat tundra]

be historical germoney

[heavy vigil]

i dont play that

[opal nymph]

Anyone know why Quisling doesn't rise up anymore

[heavy vigil]

unless someone is like 'its impossible to win like this'

[gilded wasp]

who in the WORLD doesnt play historical germany?

[heavy vigil]

(its usually possible as ger)

[heavy vigil]

me

[kind river]

Anyone know a good paratrooping template? Im trying them out

[heavy vigil]

too easy

[opal nymph]

I use 18 widths

[gilded wasp]

My saddest game in germany was being Kaiser german.

somehow

I stalled at belgium

[kind river]

Should I add anti air as support?

[opal nymph]

You can

[gilded wasp]

Because the deathvalley of that one damn forest theres NO supplies at

[upbeat tundra]

schliffen plan failing be like:

[upbeat tundra]

u mean the ardennes?

[opal nymph]

If you want to do the schliffen plan, do what it was originally designed for

Hug the coast

[gilded wasp]

I wouldnt be suprised.

[opal nymph]

Take the ports

[azure walrus]

my strat is to let belgium march into the rhineland and thin out their troops, then push through one of the divisions and rush to brussels

[opal nymph]

Get the supply hubs

[azure walrus]

fully kill the troops for bonus points but they might recover in that time

[dusky burrow]

In a different game i once conquered the uk by naval landing at scapa flow (which had like level 10 forts in that game). The rest of the UK was stacked with troops so i couldn't exactly naval invade there

[gilded wasp]

Heh, heh with what

[opal nymph]

I use tanks

[dusky burrow]

isn't that the path where you can align one of the benelux countries to kill the other?

[opal nymph]

Also Belgium caps the moment a large city is taken

With dlc of course

[upbeat tundra]

with the kreisgmarine or wermacht or luftwaffe

[gilded wasp]

No idea, I cant remember what that tree looks like

[gilded wasp]

Kreisgmarine is funny.

The 10 boats left after half the german navy apparantly decides to dip without a DLC.

And I just cant be asked to rebuild the entire kreigsmarine unless I get a shiny achievement out of it.

[wet flicker]

whats the best and most fun nation to play as except for germany

[nocturne cedar]

George Orwell quote?

[wet flicker]

i was thinking another poland run but better or romania

or chile

[gilded wasp]

America

[wet flicker]

i wanna do something nieche

niche

[opal nymph]

I enjoy playing Italy

[wet flicker]

communist america seem worth it

[gilded wasp]

Ewww...

I mean]

[opal nymph]

American alt hist pains me

[gilded wasp]

you annex the russians

[wet flicker]

yeah thats what i was gonna do

[gilded wasp]

very strange cool path ig.

[wet flicker]

have germans invade the sovietws

[upbeat tundra]

SONION

america???

[opal nymph]

Alf Landon goes from New Deal Republican to supporting fascists because reasons

[wet flicker]

and only way to get usa involved is if the russians let america annex them

[wet flicker]

i guess you're right twin

[dusky burrow]

despite having 6 research slots the usa has a relatively simple build, which is sort of funny to think about

[gilded wasp]

Union of American Socialist Republics... 💀

[gilded wasp]

America is only fun because you can do WHATEVER you want.

We;;

Eh kinda

[wet flicker]

america is already mid game by the time you spawn in 1936 but the economic laws friggen suck

[safe wing]

Roosevelt goes from new deal to support earl Browder a Stalinist who becomes a social democrat for some reason

[haughty sail]

if u want content play Phillipines or try Tibet

[wet flicker]

mmmmmmm

[gilded wasp]

You can wait till the allies collapse and swoop in to save europe like the god fearing, freedom spreading hero you are

Or you can

[wet flicker]

i wonder if you can annex america playing ass the phillipines

that does sound fun asl

[upbeat tundra]

america is sleeping for 4 years then scaling

[dusky burrow]

Yeah, but if you want to start somewhere go make some advanced heavy fighters with jet engines + 36-width rangers

Good practice on how to prioritize research

[opal nymph]

The way they could make US alt hist better is if you could choose who runs for president and gets the party nominations

[upbeat tundra]

playing ass the phillipines

[wet flicker]

aw hell naw

i seen that last moment

[dusky burrow]

true, also have you seen the australia dev diary

[wet flicker]

hoi4 discord channel didnt censor ass

[haughty sail]

ncns is a decent dlc ngl

[wet flicker]

interesting

[gilded wasp]

My last game I saved the allies in north africa in a few months, have the entirety of africa secure by 1940 and dday by 1942.

[opal nymph]

It looked interesting enough

[dusky burrow]

they do something similar in there tbh

[opal nymph]

Apparently the historical path is not historical at all

[dusky burrow]

yeah that's basically how you groove

[blazing river]

i saw that too

[restive sable]

this

[restive sable]

australia looks interesting

[opal nymph]

I still remember vaporizing the Japanese screen and sub fleet with my 8 task forces of escort carriers and seaplane tenders lol

I love navy

[upbeat tundra]

its gunna be in a dlc called "armed neutrality" add 1 path and cost 15 dollars somehow

[opal nymph]

Navy system is amazing

[blazing river]

what exaclty is a seaplane tender

[opal nymph]

Destroyers with the ability to spot subs better

[upbeat tundra]

seplanes with chicken tenders

for morale

[gilded wasp]

It was so simple.. Why didnt america just bring in half their navy to the mediterranian unscathed, use their Wunderwaffe subs to kill all the convoys, somehow get 600 cas and 1.5k fighters overseas, building airports in desert for said planes to dominate the skies then just land in the most stragicially vital port to starve the italians? 🤔

(joke)

[opal nymph]

I PAID 40 DOLLARS FOR SEAPLANE TENDERS AND I WILL GET MY VALUE

I then got 3 dlcs for free

[blazing river]

ah

[restive sable]

everyone bought the expansion pass for those seaplane tenders, who cares about some stupid focus trees and "game-changing mechanics"

pfftt

ridiculous

[dusky burrow]

i think the usa had more than 600 cas and 1.5k fighters in irl ww2

[opal nymph]

Exactly

[blazing river]

ngl i like the new focus trees

[gilded wasp]

Yeah well

That was like

[blazing river]

an dhow they all have different mechanics

[gilded wasp]

1940ish

I was a bit slow to the party on planes

But then again

When you control all the airports

Where can the enemy launch their planes to challenge yours?

[restive sable]

honestly, we're the ones scamming paradox, 40 dollars for seaplane tenders is chump change

[upbeat tundra]

you can charge as much money for the enemy to use it (tel aviv strategem)

J O K E

[haughty sail]

livadela do a malaya run

[dusky burrow]

btw this is good for basic fighters, but in 1939 you should change to improved fighters (add a 4xhmg and armor plate)

[opal nymph]

Wait, I thought of a dumb challenge

[azure walrus]

i will, it just is taking too long to research them rn

[gilded wasp]

All I remember is by my late 1942 dday landing, britan wasnt putting up much planes and I still had total air dominance in multiple airzones so.. No matter what I still had the biggest airforce 😼

[dusky burrow]

odd

[opal nymph]

Historical Germany, but I produce things exactly like the Germans.

Every time you want to switch a line, you delete it and replace it with the new thing.

Concentrated industry to make sure you never have production efficiency

[azure walrus]

what are the conditions for civil war factions to peacefully reunify

[dusky burrow]

btw have you seen https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3401639910 usa fans?

(it's a usa rework, don't know why the embed isn't popping up)

[gilded wasp]

I think like, 1 zone was towards the germans because THATS where they decided to put their entire airforce.

[opal nymph]

Is it the german luxembourg one

[dusky burrow]

yeah the ai does that

[opal nymph]

Or the one where you get 100+ mils by 1938

[dusky burrow]

and also sends their entire army into a salient

[gilded wasp]

Ah yes, put your planes on the Magiot where i have NO interest in pushing you while leaving netherlands wide open so I can encircle like 30ish divisions and start munching on the rhine.

(All those germans in the Magiot died.. They got encircled

[opal nymph]

Played it a bit, it is quite nice

[dusky burrow]

typical

[opal nymph]

Tried another USA mod and holy smokes that is not balanced

[gilded wasp]

By the end of my campaign, netherlands and ardenns yeah it was like 50-60 total divisons encircled.

Poor germans just kinda died from there

[dusky burrow]

is this one balanced though?

[opal nymph]

I would say so

It is vanilla plus

[gilded wasp]

I was gonna build up but I wasnt a fan on how much the germans were gaining in russia.

[dusky burrow]

that said maginot isn't a bad direction to push in

provided you know how to counter forts

[opal nymph]

Strengthens the US, but you cant fix your eco until later with the germanyluxembourg one

You have to wait until after the election last time I played

Weaker early game, stronger late game

[gilded wasp]

I couldve pushed it, but why push through a place when you can just.. Make sure nobody leaves, and that they starve to death instead! :D

im pretty sure that was some mideval type gengis khan stuff.

or sun tzu.

[dusky burrow]

yeah, it's just that the north germanic plain is an easier place to push

[upbeat tundra]

sun tzu has both some of the peakest tactics and the least helpful ones

[dusky burrow]

pushing through the ardennes typically is the hardest due to supply issues

[upbeat tundra]

“Bring war material with you from home, but forage on the enemy.” - sun tzu

[opal nymph]

Fight with the sun in the enemy's eyes

[upbeat tundra]

“Bring war material with you from home, but forage on the enemy.” - sun tzu

[azure walrus]

is this good sp artillery for 1939 (i am vichy)

[gilded wasp]

"to confuse the enemy, you must confuse yourself"

[dusky burrow]

replace sloped armor with radio i say

[gilded wasp]

That sounds like an awful idea, how can you win if you got no clue what ur doing

[opal nymph]

I dont think he said that

[upbeat tundra]

is the tank french? yes
then it isnt a good tank

[gilded wasp]

Its why noobs in Hoi4 lose as germany to poland

[upbeat tundra]

thats understandable though

poland has more divs then germoney at the start

[opal nymph]

Know thyself and know thy enemy and you will need not fear the results of a hundred battles

[dusky burrow]

nah france makes some good tanks

[haughty sail]

@dusky burrow when malaya run

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fr-lie--k01KRMQSBHH4SN7W6B58XR91D0Y

[dusky burrow]

once it gets content

[gilded wasp]

You win as germany by just copying the actual strat word for word 💀 (Just get a whole army in kaliningrad and they suffer.)

[lapis snow]

Some of the advice was written with the sheltered commanders of chinese nobility in mind. So telling them extremely basic stuff was necessary

[haughty sail]

which will be never

[gilded wasp]

He did but just in a different way.

[opal nymph]

Maybe he said be unpredictable

[gilded wasp]

"Feign disorder, and crush him," and "appear where you are not expected"

[haughty sail]

why do people pirate games like cmon......

[azure walrus]

neutrality is so fun

[opal nymph]

William the Conquerer literally did the first one

Pretended to retreat and then wiped out the Anglo force

[gilded wasp]

Well for alot of games I get it, its legit embarassing how games have gotten

LIke COD

But for Hoi 4 it makes NO sense

[dusky burrow]

there's quite a lot actually, just take a look at the leclerc or something

[gilded wasp]

alot of the mods are priced ok.

[viscid mason]

no it's even worse bought from a third party keyshop

[opal nymph]

Hoi4 goes on sale extremely often

[viscid mason]

as that is a waste of money and illegit

[haughty sail]

some third parties are legit

[opal nymph]

Like $10?

[dusky burrow]

if you want something earlier then go with the amx-50

[haughty sail]

like very few

[opal nymph]

Base game hoi4 is quite playable

[viscid mason]

i think it was king something

which is not legit

[haughty sail]

paradox has an list of their approved sellers hold on

[azure walrus]

so apparently for vichy france the "aggressive focus" focus is bugged

bc i did it but no gamelin

[gilded wasp]

the humble EBRC Jaguar

[opal nymph]

there are also these, I believe sorted by region:
China:
Heybox
Fenix Games
2Game

Japan / Korea:
H2 Interactive

World Wide:
Elgiganten
Gamestop US
Newegg
Humble Bundle
Nuuvem
Green Man Gaming
WinGameStore

I copied the pin

[haughty sail]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/approved-re-sellers.1036933/

thats the list

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[opal nymph]

Wait, gamelin is free french?

[viscid mason]

I remember what it was he bought it from Kinguin which is not legit as far as i know

[haughty sail]

ooof hes an idiot sorry for the lack of words

[azure walrus]

apparently

anyway this is the front in east africa

[gilded wasp]

that is nightmare fuel...

[upbeat tundra]

NO WAY ITALY IS DOING WELL

H O W

[north merlin]

how do i go non aligned with france? i don't see it in the national focus tree

[gilded wasp]

They didnt do well in 36', etheopia still exists, they had to WP

[north merlin]

;-;

[azure walrus]

because france fell in a few days (i deleted my army)

[gilded wasp]

Actually wait I might be wrong.

[opal nymph]

Oh, the Vichy government arrested him

[gilded wasp]

I think in the french free tree theres a Napolean part of the tree

Or it might be the other stinky monarchists

ITs there somewhere, napolean might be DLC, no idea

Iont like plying france cuz im buns

[upbeat tundra]

u can get a napoleon as a commander

[opal nymph]

Monarchist France is dlc

[upbeat tundra]

i typically strand him on st helena after building a port there

[north merlin]

bruh...

i don't wanna play democratic...

[upbeat tundra]

like father like son am i right?

[north merlin]

it sucks

[opal nymph]

What's wrong with democratic paths

[gilded wasp]

No war.

[opal nymph]

Someone clearly hasn't played Christian Democracy Italy

[gilded wasp]

Whts hoi4 without WARRR

[north merlin]

i no want to defend against blitz kreig

[upbeat tundra]

everything?

well first of all a democratic path means ur playing as a democracy

which is an issue

[opal nymph]

Christian Democracy Italy is literally historical Italy but blue

And you can justify war goals

Democratic Japan is historical Japan but better*

[upbeat tundra]

conscription law

[opal nymph]

Just go to war and up it

Not that hard

[upbeat tundra]

ehh

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-1--k01KRMRA7365KSWB2DYNQ2ADDWB

[opal nymph]

Unironically though, forming the roman empire as a democracy is funny

Top tier game

Might do it again

Just form the EU first so you get cores quicker

[upbeat tundra]

do papal states and world conq with hand of god units

[opal nymph]

Aren't those the super heavy tank divisions

I haven't played a pope game yet lol

I have played puppet Switzerland path, but not papal states

I have played historical Iraq before playing papal italy

[restive sable]

democratic paths are best paths in the game when done right

[opal nymph]

Democratic Norway was an experience

[azure walrus]

hows this armor

[viscid mason]

put some mech

[restive sable]

vote of no confidence norway isnt really that bad

[opal nymph]

I meant historical

It wasn't bad

[azure walrus]

cannot afford any (in terms of xp)

do i wait

[restive sable]

havent played historical it seems kinda boring

[viscid mason]

then put leg infantry

[opal nymph]

Held off the invasions, killed a few thousand Germans, went to get a puppet in Italy and get the german fleet

[tulip thorn]

(Or cavalry)

[viscid mason]

of course a brony would say that lmao

[azure walrus]

also cannot afford any

i have 62 xp

[opal nymph]

It was the Norwegians that helped storm the beaches of normandy

[azure walrus]

for army

[opal nymph]

They don't teach you that in the history books

[viscid mason]

yes you can afford it if you can afford tanks

use that xp for inf

[azure walrus]

each tank costs 5 xp

[viscid mason]

if you can't afford inf dont bother with tanks

sounds harsh but thats the bitter truth

[azure walrus]

btw is this infantry div any good

starting div + anti air

[viscid mason]

decent

[opal nymph]

Yep

Rush guns and it might even be able to push

[azure walrus]

imma train up some and invade spain

[opal nymph]

green air to be included

[azure walrus]

because the last french invasion of spain went swimmingly

[opal nymph]

Whoever plays this game without an air force is literally insane

[upbeat tundra]

i do

[opal nymph]

How do you play this game with red air

It is extremely painful

[upbeat tundra]

add AA as a supporting company

and build AA

[opal nymph]

You just reduce penalties

[azure walrus]

kurt schuschnigg, master diplomat

[opal nymph]

It is absolute pain

[azure walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/metallica-master-of-puppets-metal-thrash-metal-james-hetfield-gif-5004481132394071709

literally him

[upbeat tundra]

a certain middle eastern country and the us' be like:

(joke)

[azure walrus]

speaking of the middle east, the germans got occupation over the levant

[upbeat tundra]

oh boy! i wonder that historical parralels this would entail!

[tulip thorn]

But its also true

Calv has pretty 1 to 1 stats with infantry

So if you for some reason care about speed

[upbeat tundra]

germoney:

[dusky burrow]

if you ignore doctrines though

[upbeat tundra]

is mission type tactics the best for operations? i forgot

[viscid mason]

honestly inf is cheaper but horses work if you want a little speed

[tulip thorn]

Pretty much, but speed is pretty mid lmao

[dusky burrow]

no

[upbeat tundra]

which is?

[dusky burrow]

people mostly pick grand assault (which is probably what you want to pick in singleplayer), rapid domination, or deep battle

i have seen someone use mission type tactics though

[viscid mason]

Tho, Im a bit disappointed that a ww2 game, big inf is the meta lmao. Hope the division rework update might change things around

[opal nymph]

I play what the larp wants me to do

I will use mobile warfare

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

[opal nymph]

I will use mass assault

I do what the larp wants me to use

[tulip thorn]

Based

[upbeat tundra]

what does max plan mean?

[tulip thorn]

Who cares if heavy tanks are a waste

[upbeat tundra]

i keep forgetting

[azure walrus]

might be alliover

[dusky burrow]

planning is a stat increase to attack and breakthrough that accumulates over time

similar to entrenchment but more flexible since you don't instantly lose it if you lose a tile

[opal nymph]

Max planning what is that?

I want to attack now

[tulip thorn]

yeah

exactly

[opal nymph]

Max planning speed is clearly all you need

That way my laziness will be rewarded

[azure walrus]

ok i waited a bit and i have some exp, so is this armor division any good

[tulip thorn]

Replace motor with infantry

[azure walrus]

thats it?

[wet flicker]

cruiser submarine or torpedo cruiser

what is better

[azure walrus]

time for revenge

[green magnet]

I'm playing as portugal rn and idk which one i should pick

I'm already rushing advanced airframe but i want the production cost bonuses but i'd also like some armor

[azure walrus]

neat

[green magnet]

too many red bubbles

push harder

[tame fiber]

Looking for some casual multiplayer if anyone is down. I'm still new, just trying to take over the world

[humble solar]

Looking for someone to play with

[tame fiber]

@humble solar lets play

[humble solar]

Sure

[tame fiber]

Cool, I'll go to Looking for MP 1

[humble solar]

Ok

[winter fulcrum]

im down to play

i got all dlcs

js gimme like 10 mins to finish eating

[humble solar]

Sure

Join mp1

[azure walrus]

did it

[green magnet]

spain is free eats

[green magnet]

ts

[north merlin]

spg or medium tank for single player?

[winter fulcrum]

medium tank

[dusky burrow]

spg

medium spg

[winter fulcrum]

for mp tho do heavy tank destroyers

[dusky burrow]

well if dlc-less mix both

[dusky burrow]

wow those spanish health bars are low

wonder if they can even defeat the anarchists

also you should declare war on them after they finish the civil war since that will delete their units

[north merlin]

im playing france btw.. idk if that helps

[dusky burrow]

if the civil war isn't finished and in the axis you go after vichy first

[north merlin]

wdym...

war haven't started yet

[green magnet]

whats funny is that i beat the communists and this happened

[north merlin]

im planning on crushing italy before they go around maginot

[green magnet]

i took them out to quick

[north merlin]

sot aht i can push from 2 fronts

[green magnet]

easy fix anyway they have 2 divs max

[north merlin]

why medium? i don't think i'll face much armor

[winter fulcrum]

its generally just good to have

it has decent protection and decent attack

[north merlin]

what attack... i have 1.0 hard attack and like 30smth soft attack with the howizter

[dusky burrow]

yeah singleplayer doesn't face much armor

[green magnet]

ez

[north merlin]

so spg?

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[north merlin]

kk

[dusky burrow]

and whatever armor you do face is probably around half hardness

[north merlin]

dis good?

[dusky burrow]

and at 50% hardness spg is still better than td

[raven lotus]

perfectly balanced

[dusky burrow]

add another hmg turret, a radio, and also use riveted armor

[azure walrus]

japan declared on me so i split the tripartite pact by calling in the rest of the axis

so silly

do i annex all and then release as a puppet?

[hoary glen]

@open osprey u need help didy

[dusky burrow]

if you're a democracy yes

but you're not, so might as well full annex

also puppeting is wonky with spain since each of the four spains gets cores on their own individual sections

alternatively just puppet nationalist spain

[open osprey]

who wants to play w me coop

i'm still learning btw

how to play ts game

[fair horizon]

Build carriers

[open osprey]

son

i asked if someone could play w me coop

😭

[vital sand]

I can

[open osprey]

I suck alot

[vital sand]

No problem

[open osprey]

i rlly need someone who can help me 😭

thanks

[vital sand]

Do you wipe or let it crust?

[open osprey]

wdym by that

sorry i don't understand

like wipe

like restart?

[vital sand]

Nah wipe those sweaty ass cheeks

Nah but fr

[open osprey]

im crine

[vital sand]

I don't know I'm new My daddy helps me tho

[tiny wasp]

Steam says I have 1500 hours and it also says I have 1935 hours. Which is correct?

[open osprey]

what

[open osprey]

between 6 or 7

[tiny wasp]

ABOLISH YOURSELF NOW

[open osprey]

IM CRINE

[vital sand]

Dawg this game hard

[open osprey]

dawg someone teach me

[vital sand]

Use Google

[open osprey]

yeah dude

google

googles

dude these tutorials are just yapps

[vital sand]

Ambutacode

[open osprey]

yappity yap yap

[vital sand]

Fr

[open osprey]

ts how i feel while playing HOI4

[raven lotus]

perfectly balanced

[untold cove]

what is the difference between normal nuclear reactor and heavy water nuclear reactor

[open osprey]

ok now teach me

sir

[open osprey]

short said

what's the difference between 6 or 7

hah

the number

yahahahahahah

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/sonion-gif-4370030053602687111

[open osprey]

so funny

[untold cove]

your kneecaps will be relocated tonight

[open osprey]

aight king

[vital sand]

I bet it's spongey

Dawg can someone teach me too

Pls

[open osprey]

who wants to play w me

plis

CO-OP

[raven lotus]

im a girl

[open osprey]

plis

[open osprey]

Sorry ma'am

[vital sand]

I wanna play Equestria at war that Lowkey fun I watched every my little pony episode

[untold cove]

why is christian seib looking baddie 😭 🙏

[open osprey]

nah istg i thought it was a soldier with a helmet 😭

your pfp

[raven lotus]

anime

[untold cove]

also what is that fifth ideology

[open osprey]

you mean 67

i don't know

ask 7x7=49

[untold cove]

im blocking you if you say 67 one more time

[open osprey]

7x7

=49

[raven lotus]

Liberal Conservatism

[open osprey]

what's wrong

[untold cove]

i have been traumatized

[open osprey]

about what

[raven lotus]

im pretty sure it would just melt

[open osprey]

tell me..

[untold cove]

about a combination of certain numbers

[open osprey]

69

if you turn it around

[untold cove]

not these two

[open osprey]

it's

69

[vital sand]

Damm does anyone have good toutarial video

[open osprey]

There isn't a good

tutorial vid.

[raven lotus]

big boom ship

[open osprey]

you just gotta accept your fate and play the game

even when you loose you keep playing

[open osprey]

kablow..

kaboom

boom boom boom

even brighter than the moon moon moon

[vital sand]

I don't know stuff like politics my daddy helps me but Lowkey it's kind of fun

[raven lotus]

bigger boom ship

[open osprey]

who's under ur desk

bro

[open osprey]

SUPER HEAVY BATTLESHIP?

Boyyy

[untold cove]

what kind of question is that

[open osprey]

that's tuff

[untold cove]

not the sentence i expect to read this fine morning

[open osprey]

personal question

[open osprey]

dude

i've been playing

[fair horizon]

Gross ugly distended hull ship

[open osprey]

HOI4

All day

like 10h

[raven lotus]

how

[open osprey]

and i still don't get it.

[fair horizon]

Battleships are slim ships with all or nothing armor schemes

[open osprey]

sir please teach me how to play

[fair horizon]

Not distended belt armor

[open osprey]

can u teach me

PLEASE

PLEASEEE

[untold cove]

wait until you see super duper heavy battleship

[fair horizon]

I can teach you navy

[fair horizon]

Nothing else

[fair horizon]

I cant teach anything else because i suck at ground

[open osprey]

navy is BUNS,

[fair horizon]

Im only good at naval invasions

[open osprey]

PLEASE

[fair horizon]

BAN THEM

[open osprey]

but

but

[open osprey]

teach me

[fair horizon]

Bad wrong landlubber

[open osprey]

hop on vc

[vital sand]

Do you know what button do I press to Open focus tree?

[craggy trail]

[untold cove]

ground warfare is easier than navy

[fair horizon]

one of the ones on your keyboard

[fair horizon]

WRONG

[untold cove]

i am good at ground warfare

and suck at navy

[open osprey]

teach me

i got

[tulip thorn]

[open osprey]

my buttcheeks spread

[fair horizon]

Together we're almost 1 hoi4

[open osprey]

by yugoslavia

[untold cove]

breakthrough you must
to encircle your enemy

[fair horizon]

Oh i didnt realize your game

[open osprey]

ok tell me how

[fair horizon]

Forgive me catra

[dusky burrow]

navy is funny because if you win you win easily, if you lose you lose terribly
ground combat is more complicated by comparison

[open osprey]

See

See it

How

[untold cove]

all i see is war crimes

[fair horizon]

You can lose and not lose really bad

[raven lotus]

the Ratte was basically a land battleship

[open osprey]

Tell me how i breakthrough here

[fair horizon]

Ive lost a battle and only lost like 10 out of 30 ships

[vital sand]

What country ya playing

[untold cove]

you have to get in a war first

[open osprey]

Germany

[open osprey]

dude

i did

[untold cove]

i dont see any divisions moviing

[open osprey]

i lost and luckily i got my save

[vital sand]

I'm playing finland Lowkey ass but I wanna try Equestria at war how do I download

[dusky burrow]

if you lose a land engagment you don't typically lose 1/3 of your force tbh

[craggy trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809452900757012510/1444289461075574939/3720061.gif

[untold cove]

basically, you need infantry to hold the line and use panzer divisions to spearhead through enemy lines. then, use infantry divisions to attack specific enemy units to delay their counter assault and encircle the enemy via your fast moving motorized or panzer divisions.

[open osprey]

teach me in vc

please

ion understand ts

[untold cove]

unfortunately i cant

[open osprey]

😔

[untold cove]

it is something you can learn only through trial and error

[vital sand]

Teach politics

[raven lotus]

ww2 germany...with nuclear submarines...what could possibly go wrong

[untold cove]

or, you can pick prussian legacy focus and finish the entire game with infantry

which was what i did first

[fair horizon]

I wish nuclear engines were good tbh

[untold cove]

old men decide, young men die

[fair horizon]

Like make them not take fuel

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-mlpfim-pony-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-gif-15710327500775814033

[wet flicker]

We will be communist, whether they like it or not

[vital sand]

No goof ball hoi4 politics

[wet flicker]

We'll be communist all together

[vital sand]

Like what you press what u do

[raven lotus]

ah yes because a nuclear bomb that can move isnt a bad idea at all

[open osprey]

@untold cove

[untold cove]

democracies want to free the world
fascists want all countries for themselves
communists want all world to follow them
non aligned are not to be aligned with

[untold cove]

good, you are holding the line. now select 3 light panzer divisions and order them to strike zagreb. if any enemy units try to counter attack, use other panzer divisions to stop them.

[raven lotus]

graphite and nuclear material, I feel like we learned what happens with that combo

[vital sand]

Bruh like what do certain words mean like something idk

[untold cove]

ask me a certain word then

[vital sand]

Nah I'll just ask my dad he knows more than ya all

[untold cove]

aight then

[vital sand]

Actually imma take a shower and play hoi4

[untold cove]

taking a shower and hoi4 are opposing focuses

[vital sand]

It's getting a little stinky in my room

[untold cove]

+50 political power

[open osprey]

Doesn't work

omg

[untold cove]

what happened?

[open osprey]

I can't go trough

idk how to manage my troops

[untold cove]

check your supply levels, your troops might be suffering from attrition

[untold cove]

send your entire screen's screenshot to #ask-for-help-here and ill try to assist

[raven lotus]

what could possibly go wrong

[fair horizon]

No i mean the engines for carriers/battleships

[raven lotus]

oh boy

[opaque zinc]

Uh-uh no not good, before you attack countries where you know you’re going to have bad supply make sure to build railways or a supply hub

[fair horizon]

Pls nuke the netherlands

[opaque zinc]

It might not be fully necessary for Germany of all countries

[open osprey]

I did

[opaque zinc]

But once you start playing weaker countries stuff like that is vital

Ok good hooray

[open osprey]

But i can't go trough

I can't find the breakpoint

[opaque zinc]

Take another screenshot

[raven lotus]

why?...

[craggy trail]

📚

[opaque zinc]

Ok, the reason you can’t push here is because of a couple things

[open osprey]

Yeah

alot of things

[opaque zinc]

You have bad supply

And pushing with like 25 units doesn’t work

Because a tile only has so much combat width

Which means when you push

Only a few divisions are going into the tile to fight

And you let them stack their units up too much

You should have built a supply hub or railway connection way before you even started this war

[opaque zinc]

And you get a debuff in combat if you are stacking your units

[opaque zinc]

And those units above Zagreb

[open osprey]

i removed them

[opaque zinc]

You’d have an easier time pushing

Because there’s more opportunity for combat with

With every extra tile you can attack from you gain 35 combat width I think

So for example if a tile is 70 combat width and you have 2 35 width tanks, the battle will only receive those 2 tanks

But if you attack from 3 extra sides with 3 more tanks

Then all those tanks fit into the fight

But I’d say supply, air, and stacking were the issues there

Make sure you have cas and fighters

Cas is very good for breaking stacks

And just like with your units, they can only fit so many units into one battle

So when you attack I’m pretty sure you only have to take a few out for all the units to retreat

I might be wrong

I’m not amazing at this game

[near mortar]

Isn't Black Ice mod dead? I saw a lot of videos about it, but I thought it was no longer updated.

[opaque zinc]

No clue

[winter fulcrum]

i js beat the spanish civil war for the first time in a mp game

[craggy trail]

Black ice is still getting updated. However currently, you have to revert to an older version to play

[dusky burrow]

super heavy flame tank lmao

[dusky burrow]

they're last standing, you might not want to attack right now

[dusky burrow]

what is going on with the suspension

[craggy trail]

4 pony turret, demolition gun, modern radio, hybrid skirts, extra fuel tank and even easier maintenance. Hydropneumatic suspension and gas turbine engine

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[craggy trail]

This special project late game suspension combines all three earlier suspensions into one

[dusky burrow]

cool but of course also expensive

[near mortar]

Have they added ncns doctrines?

[wet flicker]

so far so good

4 month civil war is not that bad considering germany and italy volunteers friggen cheat

[craggy trail]

Mmm not that I know of

[wet flicker]

thank God you don't need to invade all of florida to capitulate them

[dusky burrow]

and if you did, well, naval invasion

[craggy trail]

Currently, the most expensive is this land cruiser

[raven lotus]

do I dare?

[craggy trail]

Tactical Ballistic Missiles, Heavy Anti Air, 2x coaxial medium cannons, an assault gun and flamethrower array

[wet flicker]

i wanna make some space marines but idk how soon i should invade japan

i feel like i should do it now that they're busy in china tho

[dusky burrow]

nah

[dusky burrow]

yeah invade them as soon as possible

[dusky burrow]

lmao

[dusky burrow]

ice carrier be like

[terse skiff]

they suck so don't make them

[dusky burrow]

oof

[craggy trail]

Magical numbers

[dusky burrow]

pov you hate ports

[craggy trail]

You can then pair that with Base Strike, which gives a flat 40% to port strikes

[wet flicker]

aw sh

do they really tho

in mp they smack everything

im going against ai

[terse skiff]

In MP they smack against ppl who don't even know to make tds

There are better ways to deal with ai

[winter fulcrum]

now i know how mustache man felt 😔

[bronze needle]

how do u even make france invade u in the 1939 wha

[fair horizon]

Smh no stuff to retake it?

Wheres that navy?

[winter fulcrum]

Where th am i supposed to have a navy?

I had like 39 ships but they are on a different province

Acting like navy will save the war

[fair horizon]

It keeps you from being naval invaded

[hoary glen]

i have 10 page research paper due tonight

[twilit field]

Due to my intervention forces in spain doing ABSOLUTE WORK i managed to somehow flip the civil war lol

[hoary glen]

i havent started

[eternal aspen]

Lock in dawg

[finite parcel]

wheres evil hearts of iron -4

[eternal aspen]

Fly the Jolly Roger for evil hoi4

[stoic drum]

yo is this good template

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1504743953390370847/1504747178839642122/attachment.gif

[grave sonnet]

That's not it bro

Don't use light tanks

They are shit

Use 36 width

Medium SPG tank

[fair horizon]

Speed hater spotted

[grave sonnet]

Im a heavy tank user mostly... So yeah ion really pan attention to speed

[heavy vigil]

no

[limpid field]

its almost 1941 and soviet union is still fighting finland in the winter war

the only problem is that im not playing as finland

[eternal aspen]

Missing sone LT lmao

You gotta have 25LT brigades

[fair horizon]

smh

i bet you dont play navy either

i bet you also use paratroopers

🤮

[lost dawn]

My best work yet.

The Roman Empire in 1943

[wet flicker]

i toppled japans government as communist usa, do i still need to puppet them in the peace conference?

or will it do it automatically since it was a "topple government" war goal

[viscid swift]

when u see someone not using all dockyards and mils AND producing outdated equipment, u know they're pro

[viscid swift]

ya still will gotta do it cuz it works like every other peacedeal

probably

it wouldnt make sense if it didnt

[lost dawn]

The only bit of outdated equipment that I am producing is a cruiser type that I have simply not decided to phase out since it is not obsolete.

[viscid swift]

eh kinda based i guess

at least u understand navy cuz i do NOT

[grave sonnet]

Most useless special force (I only use mountain boys and marines as SF)

[viscid swift]

btw yall ever just wake up and start writing a manifesto or is it just me?

[lost dawn]

And dockyard and mill... you do know they are made available the moment you core the territory? So it is no surprise that I now have free mills and dockyards

[viscid swift]

ahhhh

right im stupid

[lost dawn]

Leave your mocking reactions in your mind.

next time.

[viscid swift]

i wasnt mocking i was honestly impressed 😭

[lost dawn]

Not going down to extensive the moment I reformed the empire was a mistake though

Not like I will run out of manpower any time soon

[fair horizon]

eh with all the extra core factories you get its not much of an issue

[lilac ginkgo]

is this the truth

[vital sand]

What's happening to this game dawg

Damn

I'm far behind

[lost dawn]

In what way do you mean this?

As in.. is it part of the vanilla game? Yes

[distant knoll]

Yes Mussolini is Augustus and he is the truth

[lost dawn]

Well. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Mussolini is the truth

BIG oof

[rain dove]

MY HAND IS A HELICOPTER

https://tenor.com/view/benito-mussolini-keep-talking-talking-mad-gif-15512602

[ivory hull]

where is your equipment bro?

[lost dawn]

Down the drain

Anything for a little extra war participation.

[ivory hull]

no air?

[lost dawn]

Gathering dust... a bit

[ivory hull]

if its good cas and fighters use them

[lost dawn]

My airfields are not large enough to train all of them at once

[ivory hull]

as rome you should have enough civs

[lost dawn]

About 300

Yes

Building a lot of anti air aswell though

[ivory hull]

just build air

france has some big airports

in the north

[ivory hull]

for who are you building this gng?

[lost dawn]

Don't want to be nuked by the US when I start that war

[ivory hull]

get air brother

[lost dawn]

Easy bro

Building airfields

[ivory hull]

you also need fighters

put like 300

over the airzones

[lost dawn]

I have 1.8k in storage.

[ivory hull]

if theyre meta theyll melt the ai

[ivory hull]

then build more

whats your production line?

[lost dawn]

Wouldn't say meta

[ivory hull]

could be a lot better

italy has the range mio

make use of it

if you have the range mio

you can do this

[ivory hull]

naval bombers?

and whats the medium

airframe for?

id say put 5 on navs

reset on cas

[lost dawn]

I have not done that much with air during my campaign....

[ivory hull]

and fighters

[ivory hull]

delete the medium airframe production

you dont even need it

[lost dawn]

Standard bombers

Not building a lot of them but they can always come in handy

[ivory hull]

bro

tac bombers??!?

do strat bombers if your funny