hoi4-general

[hollow shoal]

thats the funny hting

thing

[sly venture]

by yourself you can’t learn the game

[inland nova]

so you still cant play after 13 hundred hours

what

[hollow shoal]

without a tutorial ur basically not gonna learn anything even with 1k hours

[viscid mason]

there is always something new you can learn about the game

[inland nova]

BRUH WHART

wdym by tutorial

[hollow shoal]

what did u expect from a paradox game?

[inland nova]

like a video tutorial

or game tutorial

[hollow shoal]

video since game tutorial is bad

[sly venture]

watch bittersteel you will learn a lot

[opal flume]

Lemme try

[astral forum]

It took me like 250 hours to get enough understanding of the basics to be able to play the game without losing every playthrough and 500 to start to get an understanding of a lot of the finer points of combat and all that kinda stuff
But you should always play with someone + use tutorials

[sly venture]

you will learn to use line artillery

[inland nova]

if i play 1 hour everyday thats 250 days

not bad not bad

[sly venture]

best template in the game

[inland nova]

this is harder than math bruh

[sly venture]

jk BRO DO not use line artillery

[viscid mason]

I know the basics. You need to spend a lot of time if you want to master it, especially in MP.

[hollow shoal]

you wont do anything in an hour probably not even expand unless ur not on historical

[astral forum]

Arty only div trust

40 w. with support divs

[sly venture]

0 oragnaitation

[inland nova]

how much do i have to play everyday

[hollow shoal]

how much u want but usually games or matches how u wanna call them last super super long here definitely over 2h

[sly venture]

I play like 30 minutes maybe 7 hours if I don’t have anything to do

[inland nova]

7 hours

do you not have job

[inland nova]

okey

[opal flume]

We can learn it in 1 hour trsut

[inland nova]

2h

its hard not to break my pc in 2 hours

[sly venture]

ok that was just a joke am not that unemployed

[hollow shoal]

like rn im playing for 3h but yesterday or a few days ago i was playing for 5h i think

[inland nova]

bruh

[sudden thistle]

7 hours in a day is crazy

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-gif-13896817446668731452

[inland nova]

what is helping lounge

the voic3

voice thing

[sudden thistle]

#ask-for-help-here but vc

[hollow shoal]

ppl help u there its in the name XD

[inland nova]

oh

[sly venture]

btw learn navy

[inland nova]

is the community like cs2 community

[sudden thistle]

Guh

[inland nova]

i am working on land

[hollow shoal]

[sly venture]

navy is very important to learn don’t end up like me

[inland nova]

what is that pfp

i see istanbul mosque

in your pfp

[hollow shoal]

no

[inland nova]

good

[hollow shoal]

Hagia sofia?

[inland nova]

them russians spamming suka bro

[sly venture]

alright bro seriously just watch YouTube tutorials on Germany

[sudden thistle]

Air exercise in Istanbul

[inland nova]

whenever i go in cs

[inland nova]

i will

[inland nova]

what

i am from turkey

i know that mosque i think

[whole matrix]

OH HECK

[hollow shoal]

And you dont know abt hagia sophia the church turned into a mosque?

[whole matrix]

HECK

HECK

[sudden thistle]

I don’t know the mosque nor been to turkey

[whole matrix]

I ACCIDENTALY STARTED WAR WITH GERMANY

WITHOUT RELEASING IT

[sudden thistle]

I just like the picture

[inland nova]

brh

[hollow shoal]

gl mate XD

[inland nova]

fair

[sudden thistle]

It is a rlly cool picture to be fair

[inland nova]

if hoi4 was like clash royale

[opal flume]

Ive watched bittersterl and didnt understand anything

[inland nova]

i would be happy

[hollow shoal]

Is that a titanfall 2 banner?

[inland nova]

the picture is cool the country isnt

[sly venture]

Top 5 most important things to learn are
Top1: infratry templates
Top2: air force
Top3: panzer
Top4:micro
top5: navy

[inland nova]

what

if i want to train my troops

but i dont have enough supply

what do i do

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/titan-fall2-thumbs-up-gif-13485450

[inland nova]

in the video

the guy doesnt show anything

[fringe briar]

look at logistics

[hollow shoal]

Do you still play it?

[opal flume]

Give up😔

[inland nova]

what is logistic

[hollow shoal]

hes new

[fringe briar]

so am I

[sudden thistle]

I try to but I can’t connect to the multiplayer servers

So that makes it harder

[fringe briar]

I've had this game properley for a day

[inland nova]

can ai play the game for me and i watch

good idea

[hollow shoal]

Same i do the mode with the survival where u gotta protect the i forgot its name that mode is peak but for the life of me i cannot connect to mp servers but do you wanna play sometime?

[hollow shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440126303201132555/1499219357371338793/200_-_2026-04-29T192002.058.gif

[sly venture]

thus is the average hoi4 experience

[opal flume]

Wheres sandbox mode

[whole matrix]

guys

im might be cooked

[opal flume]

I gave up

[sudden thistle]

I can’t connect to multiplayer servers so I literally can’t play multiplayer

[hollow shoal]

yeah twin those 5 divisions are NOT gonna cut it

[inland nova]

your soldiers must face a lot of roadman in london

they stab your soldier

yes

[hollow shoal]

No i mean the other multiplayer mode frontier defense

not like casual multiplayer

[opal flume]

Deos an sandbox mode exist in hoi

[inland nova]

i am gonna drink wate

[hollow shoal]

if ur reffering to that or u cant literally connect to the servers

[sly venture]

in multiplayer use space marines

[sudden thistle]

I can’t play it

[inland nova]

because i feel thirsty

[sly venture]

Space marines are one of the best templates

[sudden thistle]

Literally can’t connect

[hollow shoal]

Ohh i understand XD sorry i have this problem where i cant play multiplayer like quick match thingy but i can play the PVE mode

[inland nova]

what are allies

and allies-cop

[sly venture]

what

[sudden thistle]

Voice channels

For multiplayer

[sly venture]

nvm

[inland nova]

they create world war 3 what?

[sudden thistle]

Just ignore them ngl

[inland nova]

why they have team

[grizzled zenith]

Big ahh Polish-Czechoslovak Confederation(I formed Slavic Union as Poland, released myself as Czechoslovakia, let China cap Poland and formed that)

[sudden thistle]

For multiplayer???

[sly venture]

joining the allies voice channel will 100% have someone screaming

[inland nova]

they dont start ww3 right

[sudden thistle]

No

It’s ww2

In the ww2 game

[sly venture]

no it’s to communicate in ww2

[hollow shoal]

yeah the UK,France (Free France later on), USA, Canada, Turkey (later on), Brazil and everyone else who can naval invade you they will (allies are famous for naval invasions so keep normandy and french coasts safe)

[inland nova]

ww3 in real life no

ok good

[opal flume]

Wbat do the dlcs do

[inland nova]

i dont wanna go to trench

and die

[sly venture]

but don’t imagine smt crazy there is barely any communications going on

[hollow shoal]

they add stuff to the game

[sudden thistle]

Bruh

[hollow shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440126303201132555/1499219357371338793/200_-_2026-04-29T192002.058.gif

[inland nova]

what is dlcs

[sudden thistle]

This channel is fighting over 3 braincells

[hollow shoal]

holy ragebait

[hollow shoal]

theyre probably just ragebaiting

[sly venture]

so imagine it like this you buy 50% of the game for 15 dollars and you spent another 150 to buy the whole game

[opal flume]

I got la resistance what is ts abou

[inland nova]

what

i dont ragebait

i dont know what you talk about

[hollow shoal]

Bro read the dlc and youll see😭

[prime lotus]

Hey anyone wanna play? i got a 1000 hours on the game and pretty ass i hate mp and i hate jews lmk if u down

[opal flume]

To lazy ngl

[inland nova]

why you hate jew

[sly venture]

bro added a fun fact

[inland nova]

are you nazi

[sudden thistle]

Have u ever played video games?

[prime lotus]

ong bro u always need that fun fact you know

[inland nova]

yes

i play cs1.6

i play cs2

[whole matrix]

NO

HECK

[inland nova]

i play minecraft

[prime lotus]

nsh bto

[whole matrix]

AZERBAIJAN EMPIRE DECLARED WAR ON ME

[undone vale]

can paradox PLEASE fix this multiplayer???? i cannot join a server game because i have a different checksum. same mod, same version, same mod version same EVERYTHING BUT NOOOOOOOO

[sudden thistle]

1000 is crazy bro

[inland nova]

azerbaijan empire

[sudden thistle]

(Ignore the elephant)

[inland nova]

what

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-suit-meme-shannon-sharpe-meme-could-you-repeat-that-no-gif-8559743649763101510

[sly venture]

Bro I have 1000 and get my navy destroyed by 10 destroyers and 2 naval bombers

[opal flume]

3 Hours in the game not even understood how to invade countries

[sudden thistle]

I have a bit too many hours in this game ngl

[prime lotus]

dude. in the weeks i play all day after school then then gym in the weekends i go out but since i was outside drinking last night ill dedicate this day to only play

[inland nova]

is hoi4 what hitler's job looks like

[hollow shoal]

btw can u help me w hoi4 i literally dont know what im doing wrong

[prime lotus]

how much

[prime lotus]

LOL

[sudden thistle]

It was a joke to the fun fact 😭

[prime lotus]

ahh

LOL

u down to play bro

[inland nova]

i cant afford gym

i just play football in garden

free gym

[prime lotus]

get a job bro

[inland nova]

i am 14

[dawn mango]

paradox plaza kinda tuff

[soft yacht]

wtf is going on

[sudden thistle]

I don’t like sitting still for 7 hours in a mp game

[prime lotus]

u gotta go out there hustling

[inland nova]

what

[sudden thistle]

I only do mp games like once a month anyways

[prime lotus]

no us against bot so i can feel strong smart

[inland nova]

i go out for what

everywhere is roadman

[prime lotus]

and talk hella shit lol

[sudden thistle]

Js get good

[prime lotus]

im good

[sly venture]

Navy is rng btw don’t fall for the propaganda

[prime lotus]

LOL

js spam air dude

[inland nova]

is it normal if i punch my pc on the firsty day

[prime lotus]

easy as shit

[sly venture]

just look at this

[sly venture]

BRO I HAD 1500 NAVAL BOMBERS OVER THE SEA AT THAT TIME BTW

AND GOT 66 SHIPS DESTROYED BY 10 DESTROYERS

I SUNK THE PRIDE OF THE FLEET

[inland nova]

if i work at burger king

do they give me freee burgr

[storm sentinel]

but oil

[inland nova]

i love burger king drink

[storm sentinel]

buy oil

[inland nova]

LAN

SEN KIMSIN

[sly venture]

I had oil

[inland nova]

ADALANCes swsinde

hoi4

oynuyo

adalancesi nerden biliyon en

[storm sentinel]

buy more

[inland nova]

sen turkmusn

[storm sentinel]

ben

türküm

[sly venture]

it’s too late now

[storm sentinel]

askım

[inland nova]

adalances swsinde nasi varsn

[opal flume]

Kanka hic bisi anamiyorum

[inland nova]

hem turksun hem mcmi oynuon

[sly venture]

my greatest achievement

[inland nova]

oglm hem hoi4 hem adalances oynayan biri vamis

[inland nova]

what is imperium romanum

[storm sentinel]

how much hours

u have

[inland nova]

@storm sentinel

[storm sentinel]

I have 40

heh

[inland nova]

oyunda yardm etsnee bana

yeni basladim

[storm sentinel]

40 saatım

var

kanka

[inland nova]

he

bosver

[storm sentinel]

senin kaç saat

[inland nova]

20dk

[sly venture]

I don’t remember like 800?

[inland nova]

sinirlendikten sonra ciktim

[storm sentinel]

dayum

yardım ederim beraber mp atarız

[inland nova]

ben cikar bb

gorusuruz yarn

bende adalances oynuyom

[opal flume]

Kafam ağrıyor

[inland nova]

adalances towny oynuyodum arkadaslarimla

[sly venture]

I did the no skill strat tho

[inland nova]

sendemi turkdun gaim

[opal flume]

Tabi

Ama almanyada yaşiyorum

[sly venture]

wrong era bro

[sly venture]

I paradropped France and killed the allies like late 1936

[sudden thistle]

Genghis Khan the 2nd knows ball bro

[storm sentinel]

yo anyone teach me bro

I have 40 hours

[sly venture]

does he know how to paradrop France tho

[storm sentinel]

pls help .

[sly venture]

I am not that good at the game

[storm sentinel]

U HAVE 800 HOURS

[opal flume]

İ have 3 hours that enough ti teach

[sly venture]

btw if you are a naval expert can you tell me how to not get my fleet sunk by 10 destroyers

[sudden thistle]

I genuinely don’t know how that is even possible

Not even joking

[astral forum]

I lk have the same issues with my stuff

[sly venture]

k to be fair they had like 40 ships hiding in there

idk how

they were sitting there not on patrol

sneaky ahh ai

[astral forum]

I think Navy isn't that hard, I just refuse to play it bc you can't save your designs

[sudden thistle]

Ok that’s different than 10 destroyers

[sudden thistle]

Didn’t they add saving designs

Or was that tanks and planes

[opal flume]

Any yt tutos recommended to get started on wars

[sly venture]

k but still bro I had 1500 naval bombers there

[sudden thistle]

Did they have fuel

[sly venture]

yes

We also sunk the pride of the fleet I think

[astral forum]

Hopefully, I don't remember seeing anything on it

I'll check later

Need to do a Soviet Onion game soon anyways so if they did that would be so nice

[sly venture]

I have a theory that I just lost to rng

[twin siren]

im stuck in the tutorial, why wont my troops continue moving

On the border to ethiopia

[sly venture]

Leave the tutorial asap

Doing the tutorial makes you worse at the game

[twin siren]

shit

What should I do then?

I have no idea how the game works except the tut stuff

[sly venture]

Watch videos

And play Germany

don’t touch Italy

[twin siren]

You got any recommendation?

[sly venture]

Just search Germany world conquest and try to learn what to do by seeing him play

any tutorial will work ( most likely)

[candid python]

yo

[low lava]

Jo

[fair horizon]

SLANDER

60 i think

either way it should be a converted cruiser

[candid python]

i have 400 hours in hoi4 who wanna play?

[fair horizon]

havent played the phillipines but iirc they get like a portion of the japanese navy?

[azure crescent]

is this the greatest slavic faction ever?😭

[fair horizon]

probably stronger than australia's default navy

[undone vale]

i rlly need to ask why does playing hoi4 on linux give a different checksum than starting it on windows? i need to use proton to have the same checksum, which introduces a ton of weird rendering issues.

[candid python]

yo who tryna play bro😭

[heavy vigil]

hi vendrip im writing school books rn

[fair horizon]

and slandering me 😭

[heavy vigil]

its serious business

[haughty sail]

Finally Siam is getting love

[fair horizon]

Out of the way Siam this is the Australia dlc

[haughty sail]

Ew Australia

But I wish Siam would get more mechanics

Or other focuses

Instead of just turning nations into pawns

[west jungle]

I was inf was more complicated in this game, at the very least the default shouldn’t be as boring and good all the time

[haughty sail]

Im not happy about Czech getting a dlc

Czech really isn't that fun

[whole matrix]

YES

[fair horizon]

Nobody is

[whole matrix]

AZERBAIJAN EMPIRE SURRENDERED

[haughty sail]

Also Malaya needs a dlc badly

Actual focuses and mechanics

[fair horizon]

Arent they in Tatg?

[haughty sail]

Tatg?

Im not good with abbrev

[viscid mason]

Hello admiral, hello lily

[haughty sail]

Hello there

[fair horizon]

The australia dlc

[haughty sail]

Oh thunder at our gates

No they arent in there

Its Australia, Siam, and Indonesia

[fair horizon]

oh indonesia :/

[haughty sail]

Indonesia could've waited

Honestly

[viscid mason]

I didnt buy the expansion pass and only ncns and pfot. I heard there would be a division rework for the australia and siam dlc

[whole matrix]

alr, i may actually defeat germany

[haughty sail]

Malaya should be more worked on considering u have to play for 9+ hours to even get out of British control

[fair horizon]

I mean i dont even think indonesia did anything really during ww2 except be dutch puppets

[whole matrix]

and do my hegemony in Europe

[fair horizon]

Im ignorant if they did

[viscid mason]

I think a division rework has been overdue a long time ago

[haughty sail]

Malaya basically revolted but not for independence but tired of British and Japanese rules

[haughty sail]

More of a resistance to attacks

Mainly against Japan

[fair horizon]

Also britian abandoned them

[haughty sail]

Also India basically switched sides later in the war

Cuz British left them to die

Which should be a focus but no it isnt

[fair horizon]

I find it cool that most of the empire fought in north africa

[haughty sail]

But honestly back to Malaya I just want to play them and not waste 8+ hours of my day or night trying to get out of autonomy

I might do a horse only run soon

[fair horizon]

HMAS Sydney sunk an italian cruiser

[haughty sail]

Ye

[opal nymph]

Ain't no way

They made it a converted battleship?

[fair horizon]

Idk why it was a cruiser

And carried like 40 planes

[opal nymph]

Literally just a Saratoga class

Or Lexington

One of the two

[fair horizon]

The langley? Its unique

[opal nymph]

I know

[fair horizon]

Or do you mean in game

[opal nymph]

The devs made it another Lexington

Randomly

[fair horizon]

Yeah idk why

[unreal mica]

I got no friends😔

[candid python]

😔

[lethal ether]

lets be frend

[candid python]

anyone wanna play ?

[raw crystal]

I decided to let a spinner decide what nation I will be playing and it landed on Russia/Soviet Union. I plan on now doing the Monarchist Russia path.

[fair horizon]

Same

[restive sable]

there was collaboration with the japanese and then the war for independence kicked off like at the very end of ww2

[fair horizon]

Thats what happens to us australia mains

[fair horizon]

Battle of the java sea kinda sealed their fate

[restive sable]

the first or second one?

[fair horizon]

First i guess

[restive sable]

fair

i wish the pacific theatre still got more focus

feels so underwhelming compared to whatever happens in europe

[fair horizon]

Thats what the next dlc should be abouy

[restive sable]

TaoG is a great start but i'd still like a US rework

only makes sense after a japan rework i feel

[fair horizon]

US rework would be good but tbh it was mostly just us steamrolling the japanese after midway

[whole matrix]

They updating anything, but USA at this point

[fair horizon]

I guess battle of savo island didnt go to plan but yeah

[restive sable]

true, but there was still various important battles and other events that US involvement brought

island hopping as well or something

[fair horizon]

Yeah like the battle of leyte gulf

[restive sable]

iirc wasnt that the largest naval battle of the war?

[fair horizon]

Yes and also my favorite battle of ww2

[lethal ether]

yeah

raise the conscription law

i agree

[restive sable]

very interesting

[whole matrix]

USA is definitely most interesting nation to do content as

[lethal ether]

anyways guys eu5 is on sale 10%

eu4 is 90%

[whole matrix]

In America's

[lethal ether]

big difference

[restive sable]

america is in desperate need of a rework

probably the major that needs it most

and the one i'd say is most likely to get a rework

[fair horizon]

Zombie battleships getting their revenge and destroyers fighting so bravely the japanese thought taffy 3 was center force

[lethal ether]

yeah germany france uk japan china and ussr too

[whole matrix]

Yeah, France and Britain rework can be made later

can't wait for Britain rework, where they also add focuses on Ireland 🔥

[restive sable]

from what i remember wasnt it also the first battle where the japanese carried out organized kamikaze attacks during the war?

[lethal ether]

ireland is the true britain

britain broke off from ireland

[restive sable]

if i were to guess it'd be something along the lines of the US, UK, Ireland and Canada in the next big dlc

[fair horizon]

Not sure about that

[restive sable]

and rework or add some feature

[whole matrix]

I think USA rework will add focuses on USA (new ones), Canada and Mexico

[lethal ether]

i think usa rework wont happen until hoi5 gets released 30 years from now

and we will all have grandchildren

[restive sable]

please paradox get rid of the stupid mexican communist path where all mexico does is declare war on the US and allies and does nothing but bring america into the british faction then die

[whole matrix]

Tbh I really hope they don't add monarchist way for USA

[lethal ether]

usa rework gonna cost 700 dollars per focus

[restive sable]

if america gets a monarchist path it should be in the form of a hidden meme path

i'd rather america get a massive variety of democratic leaders

[whole matrix]

Yes

[restive sable]

dem macarthur presidency perhaps would be funny

[fair horizon]

Monarchy in my USA? 🤮

[whole matrix]

Also some neutral conservative leaders

[restive sable]

he wanted to run in 1944 iirc but was stopped because he wouldnt relinquish his military posts

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/george-washington-gif-13524277

[restive sable]

if america were to have a hypothetical non-aligned path i'd imagine it'd be more in the form of a military dictatorship

under prolly macarthur

[restive sable]

this actually happened by the way

[whole matrix]

What if they gonna add new ideology in USA dlc 🤔 (that won't happen)

[restive sable]

the idea of america having a monarchist path is stupid the very reason they rebelled is because they didnt want a king to tax them without their permission

[fair horizon]

Day american muscle was established

[heavy vigil]

has to be below like guatemala

or like panama

or like the bahamas

[whole matrix]

Barbados focus tree

Will be fire

[restive sable]

give guatemala the largest focus tree and it's just a united fruit company simulation with 5 minigames

[heavy vigil]

im a developer i have the developer role and i will add this into the hit game hearts of iron V

[willow gull]

thank you dev

[fair horizon]

Trinidad tree when?

[haughty sail]

US dont need a rework

Other nations need it more

[whole matrix]

Guys, is france a country?

[willow gull]

need my hawaiian focus tree

[whole matrix]

🤔

[willow gull]

it’s a state

[restive sable]

the people yearn for a tonga focus tree.

[haughty sail]

Malaya needs one more than others

Also Saudi as well

[fair horizon]

Malaya needs one where they abandon britian before britian abandons them first

[willow gull]

malaya true

[whole matrix]

Albania focus tree 🔥

[haughty sail]

Saudi is just boring asf

[haughty sail]

No

[restive sable]

i'd argue the country that became the dominant superpower post-war, developed the nuclear bomb, curbed japan in the pacific and provided land lease to the allies should get more focus then a british colony and a neutral country that didnt even participate in the war

[willow gull]

just play iran at that point

[haughty sail]

Actually Malayans did fight Japanese

[restive sable]

im aware

[haughty sail]

Helped the British fight them a little then Britain abandoned

[restive sable]

but they were overtaken rather quickly and abandoned by the british

[lethal ether]

france poland and italy arent real countries, the earth is round but it has holes like a bowling ball where france poland and italy are they are made up by the government to scare and deter you from entering those holes brcause lets be honest who would ever go to france poland or italy?

[unreal mica]

There’s a Saudi focus tree??

[restive sable]

im all for giving these countries trees but i'd rather an updated US then something like malaya or saudi arabia

[restive sable]

im polish and i disapprove of this message.

[willow gull]

nah i’d probably want malaya first

[whole matrix]

Guys

[unreal mica]

Ppl like playing as the underdog

[whole matrix]

We need focus tree on Egypt

[unreal mica]

YES

arab federation

[restive sable]

one nation that isnt in the game that should be and should have a tree

though there's reasons that it's so complicated and why they havent added it yet

believe it's because the british ai will just abandon egypt when it's independent

[lethal ether]

ure a fake person made up by the government stop spying on me

[willow gull]

am i tripping or was egypt in the game at one point

or was i playing rt56

[lethal ether]

rt56

[willow gull]

ah okay

[lethal ether]

i think its a puppet of uk

[whole matrix]

Also I really hope for Yugoslavia rework

[willow gull]

would hoi5 be set in ww2?

[whole matrix]

Its a country, that I actually would play if it had good focus tree

[willow gull]

or different era

[restive sable]

add anglo-egyptian sudan and give it a minimum of 3000 focuses

[lethal ether]

hoi5 would be set in ukraine

and russia

[willow gull]

💀💀

[restive sable]

agreed

[lethal ether]

america vs iran

[fair horizon]

Conspiracy theorists are so cringe

Raptor earth is the only real one

[restive sable]

atp hoi4 is such a gold mine for paradox i dont think they'll abandon hoi4 so easily

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-earth-dinosaur-earth-space-dinosaur-earth-society-gif-14364928

[whole matrix]

ARE YOU READY FOR ZE NEW WORLD ORDER

[lethal ether]

youre also a fake person ure ai ure made up by the government to spy on me go away shoo shoo shoo

[restive sable]

we're going to be getting dlcs until the end of time

[willow gull]

pain

[whole matrix]

We will have 1000 more USA reworks

[restive sable]

this is a 100% real image btw

[whole matrix]

Soviet reworks

Hoi4 will become ultimate game

With 10k focuses for each country and content up to 2026

[restive sable]

no actually you're going to get a panama canal releaseable with a larger focus tree than every other country combined

[lethal ether]

erm modern politics

[willow gull]

just the canal 😭😭

[restive sable]

panama canal simulator

every focus you do closes or opens the canal

[lethal ether]

someone make that a mod

pls

[whole matrix]

Tfr type of sh

[lethal ether]

open the canal close the canal

[whole matrix]

Countries

[whole matrix]

Bro

You can actually close the canal

In vanila

Using navy

[haughty sail]

US dont need one

[whole matrix]

YES IT DOES

[restive sable]

it absolutely does

[willow gull]

it does but it’s not a priority

[lethal ether]

prussia needs a focus tree

[restive sable]

there is no reason countries like kuwait or malaya should be getting larger focus trees before they consider reworking the ancient ass US tree

[haughty sail]

Not really

[whole matrix]

My city needs a focus tree

[haughty sail]

US is fine rn

[restive sable]

i desire a focus tree for every single US state

[lethal ether]

go make ur own

[restive sable]

if only i knew how to mod..

[whole matrix]

My region of city needs a focus tree

[lethal ether]

chatgpt

[whole matrix]

MY HOUSE NEEDS A FOCUS TREE

[restive sable]

every molecule in the game needs a focus tree

[lethal ether]

would be too boring, wake up, eat, sleep, play hoi4 repeat

[fair horizon]

Nuh uh someone made a mod and they let you attack your neighbor and take over his house with an army of rats

[uncut wraith]

dude this game sucks

[prime lotus]

anyone down to play

so happy man

i finaly masterd navy

after 1,015,9 hours on the game

[glacial plover]

yo

just got the game

how hard is it to learm?

[willow gull]

hard

watch youtube or something first

or save your time & uninstall

[dawn mango]

why the big michael doing that in mali

[glacial plover]

Yeah i watched a couple of videos

[lapis snow]

don't expect to be winning until you've played a few different runs

[glacial plover]

Of course

ive played similar games before

this one is way different from what i am seeing

[willow gull]

which ones

[willow gull]

.

[glacial plover]

Con

conflict of nations

[willow gull]

ah

[uncut wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[raw crystal]

Some Nations are easier to play than others in HOI4. Playing Spain is a pain, I am not attempting a Spain playthrough anytime soon.

[willow gull]

i finally decided to play it & had no idea what to do

spain

[raw crystal]

I recommend playing a Major like Germany or Italy.

[whole matrix]

Spain in kaiserredux are very good tho

Better than in vanila

[proud tapir]

pretty big learning curve

[raw crystal]

I might dabble in mods outside of UI visual mods most likely a WW1 mod.

[proud tapir]

i wish we had an up to date yugoslav wars mod

[glacial plover]

Going to try

Should start single player correct?

[proud tapir]

bittersteel is a good content creator for guides and gameplay

[proud tapir]

Best mode

multiplayer is pure meta hell

not so fun imo

[late wharf]

Solid vouch with Bittersteel: https://www.youtube.com/@Bitt3rSteel

[raw crystal]

My first win in HOI4 was a Monarchist Germany playthrough and I was on the Allies fighting the Communists.

[uncut wraith]

you’re gonna wanna uninstall in singleplayer do not even bother with multiplayer until you have many hundreds of hours

[proud tapir]

my goat

[late wharf]

... Wrong account

[proud tapir]

by far my favorite hoi4 content creator

[proud tapir]

My first one was historical Germany

i just kept trying and trying

started with good invasion of France

botched sealion

restart

botched France somehow

restart

France, Sealion, allies capped

Barbarossa went okay

[glacial plover]

How fast is the game?

[proud tapir]

In singleplayer you can take your time

[fair horizon]

Tommykay is my favorite hoi4 content creator cause hes washed up and its funny

[glacial plover]

is it fast paced tho if i decide to do so?

[proud tapir]

I also love him because hes funny

[pure rampart]

yea Bitt3rSteel is my favourite too, ISP is funny but nothing beats Bittersteel

[proud tapir]

sure

[pure rampart]

wait Bokoen might be up there tbh

[proud tapir]

Aldrahill is maybe my 2nd or 3rd favorite hoi4 creator

[glacial plover]

alright im starting as greece

[proud tapir]

very underrated

[proud tapir]

oof thats gonna be a hard one, greece is quite a difficult country especaly for a begginer. But you can try

[fair horizon]

Iowa needs a focus tree first with naval focuses before the usa gets one

[pure rampart]

Alex the Rambler is what got me into hoi, so I’ll always like him but not my favourite anymore

[raw crystal]

I love watching Bitt3rsteel when he plays disaster saves.

[restive sable]

truth

[glacial plover]

Going to jump right in

[pure rampart]

yea

[proud tapir]

Honestly it makes me more confident in my gameplay

If bittersteel can defeat 1944 soviets while being pushed all the way to Southern Italy with no equipment or fuel, my disasters seem tiny in comparison

The sellow heights endsieg mod is my favorite bittersteel series tho

[pure rampart]

yea exactly, it makes me wanna try saving myself when I forget garrisons and half my army dies and I almost capitulate instead of just giving up

[proud tapir]

i quit a save today after germany declared war on my Czechoslovakia while my entire army was deep into Poland 😭

[rain wind]

What’s the pc requirement for playing hoi4?

[pure rampart]

it’s on Steam and stuff if you wanna check actual stats, but quite low

[proud tapir]

Should have gave up katowice man

[rain wind]

I see

[proud tapir]

just comply

[pure rampart]

it can ”run” on most stuff, if you’re fine with a slow running game in late game

[rain wind]

Understanded

Ty

[proud tapir]

theres also workshop mods that help with performance

like a simplified map

[raw crystal]

A typical Monarchist Germany playthrough for me is that I beat the Soviets with Poland, Finland, Austria-Hungary, and Italy as my allies. Then when I fight against the Allies I end up losing.

[proud tapir]

for me its the opposite

i can cap the allies

but i always end up with no equipment or supply mid barbarossa

and just die

[willow gull]

i usually cap britain by 1940-41 then go for soviets

[proud tapir]

yeah i always try to cap the allies before the US joins

US is a pain

Barbarossa is always iffy, either i cap the soviets within a year or get violently murdered by supply and equipment issues against soviet walls of infantry

[ripe slate]

Steam recs are a bit outdated, I think you need about 15GB of space for one

[proud tapir]

Crimea is the most annoying part of barbarossa because i keep forgetting that battleplans for some reason wont count crimea and skip it.

Then i see a shade of red going trough my backline and realize i forgot about Crimea

[lapis snow]

the most annoying part is having to build the soviets railways for them

the supply issues are only because their network sucks

[proud tapir]

and also their sheer spam

if you dont encricle portions of their army and just push

[lapis snow]

naw, the spam isn't a problem since you can wrap them up in encirclements

[proud tapir]

thats honestly a paradox for me, because im actually very bad as the soviets. Im just not used to playing as them and always get my shins kicked in by Germany

i should try the 36 width infantry spam next time

[lapis snow]

sovs are slightly harder, you have less freedom focus wise but once you know the route you can hold molotov line every time

[late wharf]

honestly a... paradox? 😏

[ripe slate]

xD

[proud tapir]

woah 🤫

[proud tapir]

its funny because theres a hoi4 pro on youtube that did a guide for Germany and the USSR and

i kid you not

Germany guide: 1 hour

USSR guide: 10 minutes

[lapis snow]

segl

yes

sovs are simpler

[proud tapir]

Czechoslovakia made me more confident in fighting Germany

The new tree is absolutely great

[lapis snow]

yeah playing czechs or poland is a good way to learn defence

yugo as well

[proud tapir]

Selisia gotta be top 10 favorite pockets of all time

[proud tapir]

Ohh how i wish for a yugo rework in the future

alongside Romania

[lapis snow]

yugo hasn't aged as poorly as romania, but both serve their purpose

romania is actually okay to learn the game on

[proud tapir]

I also feel like this focus tree does a lot of justice when going none historical, the Czechoslovak legion is an underrated focus. Being able to send volounteers and turn the tides of civil wars and stop potential enemies is awesome

and its fun rp

[raw crystal]

I am currently playing as the Soviets/Russian doing a Civil war to bring back the Russian Monarchy.

[proud tapir]

Romania is def one of the better "older" trees

i still like Romania

despite it of course being outdated

its still fun

you can do a lot

[ripe slate]

The tree is pretty terrible but Romania's position is one of the best in the game

[lapis snow]

it has definitely suffered from the power creep of other nations making it relatively weaker over time

[proud tapir]

i like being able to eat Yugoslavia for free

[ripe slate]

Who doesnt :3

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[proud tapir]

cant wait for the Australia dlc

[proud tapir]

i think pretty much every country that neighbours Yugoslavia has a focus that gets a piece of their land for free lol

Italy, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria?

and Greece?

[raw crystal]

I would like to see the US, France, and the UK updated since they are outdated compared to the updated Germany and Japan.

[proud tapir]

not sure about greece and Bulgaria

possibly them aswell

[proud tapir]

Yesss France update

70 day focus for a research boost and a building slot 😭

i understand France gets debuffs so German AI can blitz them, but maaan

[lapis snow]

France doesn't really need a new tree so much as it does a pass for balancing, the design is ok, Vichy sucks bawls but it's not a tree they actually expect people to play

[proud tapir]

Ireland tree will happen one day

trust

[lapis snow]

35 days - send condolences to germany when hitler dies

[fair horizon]

Ireland tree would go hard

[raw crystal]

Currently, I am setting up for the Russian Civil War to restore the Monarchy. Hopefully, I do not get steamrolled by the Axis right after it.

[proud tapir]

Legacy of the Celts
-Claim on Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria, and the Rhineland
-+15% attack bonus against Germany

joke

jokee

[fair horizon]

The good ending

[proud tapir]

but an ireland tree gives ideas with potential

[lapis snow]

without cheesing the civil war?

[proud tapir]

sort of like iceland

[proud tapir]

cheesing the civil war is the only way i play the civil war as Germany

[willow gull]

do you know how to do the civil war

[proud tapir]

didnt do alt history Russia tho

[raw crystal]

No plans on cheesing the Russian Civil War, yes I understand the war but I tend to get Steamrolled by Germany afterwards.

[lapis snow]

yeah russia is a lot weaker than sovs

you kinda have to forget about having a quality army and just go for size

as soon as the CW wraps up, ideally in 38, you start militarising immediately

[proud tapir]

i honestly like turning off historical when i plan to go alt history myself

just feels better

at least with majors

[viscid mason]

<@&846894118219022336> same goes for all the other chanels

[atomic harbor]

hi guys

first run as germany

going smooth

(hitler speach bubble)

I put all 4 spies on USSR since 1936

so i got 90% collaboration and a bunch of intel on em

so apparently it will be easier

a friend told me that

[woeful knoll]

Why would u ever play historical germany on non historical

that sounds like pain

[atomic harbor]

thats historical

im playing road to 56 mod

but its historical

[woeful knoll]

ohhh

[atomic harbor]

im just invading whathever comes

whathever focus let me

I got the option to puppet spain and portugal and stuff like that

@woeful knoll I never touched navy too much

what do i gotta do w it

[woeful knoll]

i dont play in rt56 but id imagine it wouldnt be much different

u need to make a deathstack kriegsmarine as germany and just make a lot of ships, aim for the plan z size which u will never reach besides carriers which should come first

if u havent invested in navy atp dont worry about it besides u boats

[atomic harbor]

What is deathstack kriegsmarine?

[winter fulcrum]

no way the japanes didnt win this war bruh

[fair horizon]

Only takes like a year to build 4 battleships and 4 carriers as germany

Garuentee he has at least 40 dockyards

Also rt56 capitals are cheaper

[atomic harbor]

Btw guys my small country uruguay sank an germany battleship

🤓

Graff spee

we keep the swastika on it on an museum

[deep grove]

Bro I love and hate this game at the same time

[fair horizon]

Didnt they scuttle it?

[dusky burrow]

lmao

[dusky burrow]

(but seriously, yes it was cuttled)

[fair horizon]

Also didnt know any of their stuff was kept

Figured they would have scrapped it

[atomic harbor]

They sank the ship then recovered on the 2006 it was on the sea

Then it was kept on an museum

idk tho sometimes they hide it

[fair horizon]

Yeah i wish some of the kreigsmarine ships were still around as museum ships. Unfortunately mine used the Prinz Eugen for nuclear testing

[atomic harbor]

they sadly didnt keep the ship directly rather just the eagle

It would be an important turistic thing if they kept some ship parts apart from that one tho

but they didnt

[fair horizon]

Honestly wish Vanguard wasnt scrapped. Would have been a cool museum too but unfortunately ww2 broke britian's economy

[atomic harbor]

whats vanguard

[fair horizon]

The last battleship ever built

Never got to fire her guns in anger either

[opal nymph]

America is trying to build a new "one"

Billions of dollars for a larger guided missile cruiser with a couple of guns

[fair horizon]

Its a glorified cruiser and i refuse to accept it as a battleship

[opal nymph]

All military ships technically are "battle" ships

Or support

We need to launder money somehow

[fair horizon]

The whole idea was cheaper munitions to shell ground targets and then now its gonna have a railgun which defeats the whole purpose

[atomic harbor]

guys when did barrbarosa started?

[fair horizon]

June 1941?

Mabye july

[atomic harbor]

alr great.

ty

[winter fulcrum]

ez war

[fair horizon]

Build more ships

[winter fulcrum]

i will

and ill snatch the usa's navy

[karmic wren]

did you use templates

[winter fulcrum]

nah i just used the base units

[rapid furnace]

What is the tag for checkoslovakia

[viscid mason]

cze

[woeful knoll]

what

no tf it doesnt

are you turning on instant construction in the console

[terse skiff]

No he just doesn't waste it on useless modules

[opal nymph]

Uruguyan waters sank it from the damage the British did

And the scuttling i guess

[hardy furnace]

The UK guarantees Poland even though WT is below %25

[atomic harbor]

idk they dindt teach us that

[opal nymph]

Yep, faction mechanics

[hardy furnace]

Why is this

[opal nymph]

15% i think is their level

[opal nymph]

Still a cool part of history

[atomic harbor]

yeah

if USSR has 8% stability when i invade them is that normal or is it gonna make it easy?

[opal nymph]

It's going to make it easy

[atomic harbor]

okay

il invade them on like 4-5 fronts too

[opal nymph]

*easier

[raw crystal]

I am tempted to create a Space Marines division that has one anti air medium tank to shoot down enemy planes to use a defensive units.

[opal nymph]

Space marines are supposed to be offensive in nature

Regular 3x3 inf defends well if you give them support aa and support arty

If you want tanks, make tank divisions

[atomic harbor]

btw jhonatan what does collaboration do

my friend told me to spam collaboration operations on USSR since 1936

idk how much its gonna change it

i got 90% collaboration

[opal nymph]

Reduce surrender limit

If the Soviets have 8 stability and 90% collab. You should be able to cap the Soviets by taking Moscow, stalingrad, and the caucuses

[atomic harbor]

well il go preparing my troops

also thanks for the help bro

[karmic wren]

i did this with base units

[winter fulcrum]

okay bruh thats easy

its literally the sun vs an ant

[karmic wren]

I have like 86 hours on game

i need powerful countries to understand

[winter fulcrum]

ohhhh

okay then yeah thats pretty good

america is almost done for (most of the divisions attacking are mine)

[atomic harbor]

mexico on top

[winter fulcrum]

i did all the work

it was just through their territory

[rapid furnace]

Just like tfr lol

[atomic harbor]

bro italy wont join my wars

[blissful dawn]

how do i learn the game

just got it and I LOVE geopolotics, but i honestly suck at all this complex strategy stuff

i liked playing a simple geopolitics game called openfront and it led me to try hoi4

but hoi4 is very much more complicated

[fair horizon]

Are you building battleships worth 20k or something lmao

Doesnt germany get production buffs too?

[atomic harbor]

so close

[atomic harbor]

i just follow tutorials for the complex stuff

[blissful dawn]

for my first ever playthrough what nation should i use

Italy?

[atomic harbor]

i used my own tiny country

uruguay

for first playtrough

whathever makes u have fun

[blissful dawn]

i keep getting notifications (Hoi4 is downloading from "Daniel" under "Files")

like downloading some files in my pc

[dark glade]

play Italy (monarchist)
release Croatia as puppet
put Aimone as ruler
annex Croatia
release (again) it as independent nation
make Croatia join faction
feed Austria+Hungary+Czechoslovakia+most of Yugoslavia+half of Romania+south Poland
Croatia converts to AUS-HUN
click the give Dalmatia + puppet decisions
have AUS-HUN as puppet

[willow gull]

where do you go to see planes lost in battle

[atomic harbor]

37 days to get into nuke resarch

research*

[blissful dawn]

Should i start in 1936 or 1939

for my first game

[lapis snow]

always 36

[willow gull]

1936

[atomic harbor]

yea

1936

so u can build and learn about the game before into going to full on ww2

[blissful dawn]

i wanna try italty uz it has built in tutorial

and it starts in war with ethiopia

[atomic harbor]

just build bunch of military and civilian factories, get spies into whathever country you want and ofc get a lot of soldiers

by training them

Spain sending voluntary troops without knowing im bouta puppet em 🤣

[atomic harbor]

FALL OF MOSCOW

YES

[upbeat tundra]

"guys i crushed the poles as the soviet union with BASE units"

[atomic harbor]

i crushed the soviets as germany with BASE units

[winter fulcrum]

he mentioned he was pretty new

[atomic harbor]

bro im bouta backstab italy as germany

they didnt join the barrbarosa

[willow gull]

yo can someone show me why i can’t find my new fighters

producing them but i can’t deploy them

[raw crystal]

Which path should I do between Third Rome or Pan Slavic Union for Monarchist Russia after I win the civil war?

[willow gull]

nvm

[willow gull]

third rome is my favorite

[upbeat tundra]

still not an accomplishment

[winter fulcrum]

for him? kinda is

[upbeat tundra]

how many hours?

[upbeat tundra]

either canada or like germany

[upbeat tundra]

change your conscription

[winter fulcrum]

he said like 80

[upbeat tundra]

meh

80s enough to get into the game

[blissful dawn]

someone help me in help channel

[winter fulcrum]

not really

[blissful dawn]

its an attrition tihngie

[winter fulcrum]

80 is still learning the game

[upbeat tundra]

when i got 80 hours i did the ggr

[winter fulcrum]

?

[upbeat tundra]

fformed*

[winter fulcrum]

i dont get what ggr is

ohh

greater germanic reich?

ngl i havent actually done that in a while

ive only done it twice because i got so bored of the germany runs

[upbeat tundra]

free cores

[winter fulcrum]

does it core everything you occupy or just the land thats required

[upbeat tundra]

lemme chek

[atomic harbor]

😭

[upbeat tundra]

cores the striped ones

oh and @winter fulcrum

[winter fulcrum]

okay okay

[ivory garden]

low cortisol

[rich gulch]

guys

how do i earn this stuff

faction influence

[trim plume]

how did you lose

to a bunch of warlord

states

[rich gulch]

no

[trim plume]

yeah

[rich gulch]

i used influence to make them my warlord subjects

[trim plume]

how did you lose influence

[trim plume]

js annex them

[rich gulch]

you cant annex them lmao

[trim plume]

influence is gained by factories, military victories

n stuff

[trim plume]

puppets

[rich gulch]

yeah

so im just trying to gain more influence to puppet them

and idk how to do that

[trim plume]

how did you contribute less in wars

[willow gull]

man these old focuses that give you like 25 xp suck lmao

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725866486425583679/1499772550828396575/output.gif

[marsh stratus]

bro my guns!!!!

opps

now my guns!!!!!

[trim plume]

what

[quasi osprey]

If I am qing china(manchuria) should I try fighting the war of independence after we win against China?

[trim pike]

[low dock]

Guys

Yall have any tips for me?

I laredy bought all of the steel from the world

[raw crystal]

I angered the Allies and ended up on the Axis as Monarchist Russia for trying to retake Crimea.

[terse skiff]

What are you spending so much steel on? Also that is definitely not all the steel available in the world

[low dock]

Guns

And word war 2 is still happening

I had to stop producing guns

[winged field]

what is your production line looking like?

[low dock]

I changed it cuz my stell was like -200

10x guns filled

Also 5x artillery

Also 5x anti air

And ton of air

[winged field]

Also, did you max out on those buildings that give your more resources?

forgot their name ugh

[low dock]

...

[inland nova]

hello

[trim plume]

erm thats nanjing nanGONE

[untold cove]

how many divisions you got there

[trim plume]

300+

trying to outproduce chinas 600+

say that again?

HE AINT EVEN CHINESE

[fair horizon]

HEY PUT AMERICA IN CHINA

[tame copper]

Hello people

I once had the Transcaucasian Federation form without any intervention from me

Historical off ofc but still

Damn nobody is saying anything

[fair horizon]

Thats the hoi4 discord in a nutshell

[tame copper]

Real

[quasi osprey]

I did so many encirclements as manchukuo that the chinese dont even have enough troops to cover the border but japan doesnt want to advance for some reason

[tame copper]

AI moment

[quasi osprey]

this is all completelly open land but nooo japan troops are just standing there and I have to do all the work

[tame copper]

Why does the option to only show the player's troops even exist lol

[merry mica]

what is wrong with here??

[tame copper]

It's so annoying when I accidentally click it

[quasi osprey]

probably if you want to see where ur troops are but there is so many ally troops u cant do that

[tame copper]

Might be

[quasi osprey]

another encirclement incoming

[quasi osprey]

another one

[inland nova]

do we need to watch a video to learn the game

[lethal ether]

lag

[inland nova]

i watched a vid for like 40 mins and it was boring and i didnt really learn anything

[quasi osprey]

another one the chinese seriously dont guard their borders

😐

[fair horizon]

Push it for them

[quasi osprey]

yeah started the push to their capital