#hoi4-general
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you don't need them bro
china also gets another guy....
i cant say his name here because ill get muted, because he has the same last name as a certain someone
his first name is israel
iykyk
the big IE
Alexander?
no
no
it's some dude from the mossad
he loved parties
oh that guy
tanmk mention
is my communist china going good so far?
heya, i'm currently fighting a STACKED third rome and they have so many tank division that i can't do anything against. it's like mid 1956, what should i be doing
Nuke frfr..
they have zero navy and all my cores are on a different continent
i've been nuking out the wazoo
they have 1300 mils though
or something stupid like that
so i can't outpace hteir industry and trying to push them has drained the hell out of my manpower
i've lost like 10 million people
anti tank
As democratic germany how can I get a war goal on belgium and luxemborg?
focus maybe
i've hard pivoted half my industry to making tank destroyers but i dont know how tanks work and how to make them effective :c
i've ended up just kinda putting tank destroyers in my infantry but
i mean ig just make anti tank instead of TD's if u dont know how they work (i dont know either)
i can't get air
oh well then ur cooked possibly
i can also try
u should ask #ask-for-help-here
invite them to faction
to do what i need
but the issue is i need 100% world threat either way
so im not sure if there is a way to do this?
avg democratic playthough
i hate china
I DID ALL THE FIGHTING
you can not be taking my shit after i did all of that
forgot that channel existed lol
Declare on majors
there are no more majors except me and the usa
Sould be like 10-25% per major
Take them out
im democratic
i can try ally them
since i have that thing where i can annex my allies in europe
but that also need 100% threat
can spies help here is that how it works also?
oh my god
my china game was going soo GOOD
BUT KMT CHINA HAD TO JUST
DECLARE WAR ON ME
bruh
i solved the cold war in 1939
PRC china
xibei san ma
Italy dawg go with the trend
not a real country btw
✌️
france poland and italy arent real countries, the earth is round but it has holes like a bowling ball where france poland and italy are they are made up by the government to scare and deter you from entering those holes brcause lets be honest who would ever go to france poland or italy?
no that was actually croatia
they just fooled you that you went to italy
Garda lake is croatian now?
Wouldn’t it be austrian instead bc its been part of tirol
or that
the government is very good at hiding the fact that the earth has a hole where italy actually is
so nobody actually knows the truth
1937 btw.
Imma hop in a new HOI 4 Netherlands game, any tips y'all?
Do not cave to anyone
Unless you want to go facist
just remember that pdx never actually updated tutorial since 2016 🙂 👍
or monarchist
Nope
why not tho, isn't that required for England to actually help you?
dont you gotta cave to both of them for monarchist?
and with england i mean the allies
Thats what i ment with not caving to abyone
You have to get lucky with non historical otherwise
Its really weird
whats the fastest way to reunify china, gen
best nation in asia btw? i gotta know cuz i need to play asia more
i play too much europe
Tbh japan😭
I play non-historical, so ig...
anything else? ill play that tho soon 👀👀
Germany has to get wilhelm if you cave to them and the uk smth else which idk
Try to do qing china😭🙏
alr
Its best to do the middle one (stay neutral)
Unless you want to go facist
ill note that down once i managed to defeat KMT china as the PRC
this was civillian difficulty, non-historical and Ironman. And i have 55 hours in game
which im playing rn
so ig i did good?
Make peace😭
okay, so it's best to go for neutral? or what is the tactic in that case?
the ai doesn’t really change it’s just modifiers that change
okay
If i remember correctly its 50 influence for both to go neutral
Nah, one day, when I am like, a LOT better in HOI 4, I'll try a world conquest
what kinda influence
not trading influence ig?
You’ll see in decisions
alr lemem check rq
It is i think
does trade influence influence a lot? like how a country reacts or sum?
not rly
But the ai does have decisions to change it for you but the ai never does that i think
Your own decisions
10 pp per i think and you gotta get 5 for both so 50 influence
How do u defend against Germany as Czech
Someone pls help me
I already allied Poland
watch a guide
but you should take your neighboring before germany invades
austria hungary, romania
yugoslavia
make a Czech magiot line, get a LOT of defensive troops and uuh, pray or sum
I already have level 5 forts
And wdym defensive troops
Why line artillery
troops good for defense, and good organisation
and make sure to have entrenchment bonus
I don’t even know how to play minors
If you want to try to defend against germany build forts on all your borders and if that fails build forts on the top tile of holland and the bottom tiles
That was kinda what i did last game, but france turned communist and declared war, for whatever reason. I almost died, but france was weak.
and you saw what happened to both of them
Hi
Uhuh its the best strategy i think
hi
i haven’t played it yet
alr
yeah takes a lot of time to learn
If you go monarchist you can also ask for Belgium and luxembourg from the uk if they capitulate but you prob already know that since you formed the benelux
Its the same.You struggle at the start and need many hours to learn
this is so goddamn frustrating
how the hell can japan survive in china
but when i try to
i just
get
turned into nothing
by the
0 SUPPLY
build a supply hub
capitulate bro
not 5💀💀💀
and when does japan fight me?
WHY ARE YOU IN THE AXIS
Average Chinese gaming
i think july
Why not
Is that the Moldovan socialist republic
you should def watch a guide for china
i am not watching an one hour guide for a NCNS china, which i dont even have NCNS
Does anyone have a fast time mod?
Hoi4 is the waiting game
Just play a more fun country if you don’t have ncns
no
every other country i have is european
and gets invaded
Imagine HOI4 on mobile
and i dont feel like playing nations that just get
Hoi4
mogged by the majors
theirs older china guides
me when im not allowed to finish talking
@graceful citrus
So this is the focus tree of the netherlands, I usually go with britain so I can eventually annex Belgium and Luxembourg to form "The Benelux Federation". Eventually I can annex France, Germany and Italy too, if I control some of their states. Why should I go with "remain trade neutrality"?
well what if i want to play something WITHOUT a guide
Don’t even
its discord bro ✌️
Why no trial by fire
he’s already in the fire 🥀
And with the basics just experiment
Netherlands has content???
me when i see an empty province, and all the sudden some bum shit division spawns in it
U can
Nothing is stopping you
Oh im so sorry i thought the road to 56 one was like the vanilla one😭
The ai prioritizes numbers
Over like quality
It’s so annoying
oh lmao, yea I don't have any mods yet lol
Yes
I dont play with road to 56 anymore bc i have dlcs now
And they’re so boring
Dame
Lol
what does that mod do tho
Netherlands and boring in the same sentence🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀
I have 24 hours on the Netherlands
Guys are there any religon mods or smth
Ok it’s not boring but
Adds more focus trees basically
*are
Idk
sounds good
Also updates some like the germany alt history ine
One
Skill issue ngl
I can do it with all the others but
Hello, a Dutch person here.
Please shut up :/
did it with 55 hours of playtime
not even joking
Good for you
I also played them when I was worse
I like the Netherlands though
Yall people
Tall
yay
And bikes
more bikes than people btw
The Netherlands suck
Both IRL and In Game
This HAS to be ragebait
They don’t suck but they’re boring
No
I hate them
EU path is cool
yea
what did we ever do to you vro 💔
I can't talk about that since #server-rules
Austria is fun
What rule would you override if you did tell us?
for the context yk
Rule 2
whats the fastest way/country to actually unify china
I mean, it is not religious or political
Religious no
Political yes
Kinda
no, i mean, unless you hate our politics you won't override the rules
if you hate the culture thats a normal opinion
ngl
Modern
92-95
I don't think I understand tbh
It's okay.
I'd rather not talk about it
no its not why do you hate us
did this as fascist germany
yo guys wat is dis😭
It's LIBERALISM
DUDE WTH İS LİBERALİSM

Turkey is gone liberalism is what remains
how does it even happen
Smth facked in the Localisation
"Höw dö yöu Knöw İm Turkish"
Whats the bestu division for 1951 sinkiang wich is fighting the allies and is alligned to the soviets
What.
why are you even playing sinkiang
Some1 challenged me
Sinkiang is pretty fun
I dont use dlc
You don't need the DLC
wat
kumul better
Nope just work with the communist then you get the cores
Mengkukuo Clears
But whats a good division i researched like everything already
Ok
sir how am i suppost to know
Idk
ive only got 473.4 hours
I even have nukes
im a newbie
Im at like 360 hours
Go into game files read all the code
And get information
Easy
dont tell me u actually did that
I did /j
i dunno
fun czechslovakia
It's mid
I never played it
This was my first try
yo guys show the dlcs
WHAT İS THAT QUALİTY
I took a picture on my phone
Its actually pretty ez
First help japan beat china then wait for a bit and attack japan
dud ive been playing this game with cheats on for a bit long so i kinda forgot the industry and the research
This was 1 of my first real runs bro
Im sitting at like 150 civs and 200 mils
Communist
Sub is best
mom wont allow it
What is sub
Subscription
All DLC
5 bucks a month
I used to do that
Monthly pay
all dlc
Ah
For me its 8 or 9
Just do communist that industry is not worth it
U dont need it
Bro just do communist instantly and take the left side you dint need the roght side
After you united with communist china leave commintern and help japan beat china
This game is a scam
No
GET OUT
Its peak
Yes
Why
Because no matter what you do the ai will always be against you
ye ye
Always the worst focus paths
blyat
Thats the point of the game isnt it
Then it is unbeatable
So whats the point
um
No its beatable
Oh yeah how am I gonna defeat poland that rejected my vilnius demand with 20 divisions
Get more divisions?
ur just insanely bad
Depends what year it is in game
Stfu
no
never does
ai is so borderline bad in this game
Allies after 1950 is pretty hard
its criminal
Mf who plays 26173847172737288474722 hours
How long have you been playing the game intotal
u dont need a high amount of hours to defeat the ai
Thousands of hours
Then you just suck at the game
send the photo
Im at like 360 and its pretty ez
im waitin blyat
what language is that
Your mom
Polish
that wasnt funny
Bud its 2026
Yeah and you saying i suck is not either
i didnt said that
but u do if u lose to ai
just accept it and get better
instead of complaining with weak mentality
Whats a good division template for 1951 sinkiang
sidney should i do air in researh
Later not at the start
There is no way to get better if there are countries with less manpower and potential
I did it in like 1942
same template that is good in 1941+
ye sure
Idk whats good i just put 9 inf 3 artillery and some support companies
line arty sucks
pure inf is always better
for sp all u need is green air and cas with pure inf and ur good
u can make spg tank divs later on if u have good enough eco
I have 3 fully equipped divisions 3x3 infantry full support and artillery attacking one militia and they dont take that province
I have good amount of factories just not enough steel and shit
😂
Whats so funny
lez goo my infantry is now in the + instead of -
Cant even beat 1 militia with 3 divisions
Trust me that wont last long
oh no
I had a few 100k in debt
Oh yeah how would you explain my situation
dang
You suck
How so
Ur just bad
dude if we can do it then u have a skill problem
What country r u playing
how do you even waste 2000 hours on a game
Lithuania
and still dont know the basics
shit combat modifiers, shit template, shit logistics into shit stockpile into 100 games loss streak
what have you been doing
I have +4 trains and +10% attack on core which it is
I dont even make trains
Infantry experts etc
sidney how many divisions should i train
click the red bubble in combat and take a screen of the combat modifiers
How many do u have?
3
I quit the game because it was absurd
Get a war goal on china and tibet make sure tibet is earlier done and train like 4 new divisions
ye ye u have 2000 hours and u dont know the game its best that you shouldnt play it
Then make paradox give my money back
Or just get better
dis china?
Yep
i can only do it to tibet rn
When japan attacks try to help them but unite with the communist first
boot up the game and do it again so u can show it?
or do u not wanna know what the issue is?
Communist china gived like 12 divisions i think
I don't want to I'm mad
prob him
alright then stay mad and don’t improve thats also fine
Imagine that this game costs money
Its on sale most of the time
imagine that u spend 2000 hours on a game and still dont know the basics
oh right
you dont have to imagine
war is going well so far
nice
fr
Whats wrong with you
It took me around 100'-200 hours to learn modt of the things
nothin?
Nice
Then why do you attack me
fr thx
because ur crying in a chat
saying this game sucks
How long did this take?
while we literally enjoy it
rn its july 1944
Nice
R u fighting the allies?
nope
yo sidney should i early deploy one of my divisinos
R u at war yet?
nah
Then you dont have to
nice
another question
should i do extensive
conscripsion
or some shet
nice 2 diviions are raedy
i have 6 divisions rn
Nah
When u unite with communist china u have enough manpower for some time
This is my situation
When china caps take the land near the sea yhats where most manpower and shit are
Sorry for the sun I have no screenshot function
winnin
Joins as fast as possible
HOW
Also Poland joined the allies
War goal
There is no further reason to play if I don't have a navy
Or do border war if thats possible then you can make it a normal war
DUDE THE SOVİETS HAVE AN NON AGHRESSİON PACT
WİTH THEM
and also i declared war on tibet
Thats why when u unite with communist china u leave commintern
@fair bough @glad lake @grave phoenix If you can win this in my situation then I could quit this game already
There is no way
Impossible
First ofal stop the autoattack
No navy
Thats wasting to much equipment
Does it always suck so bad
It wast much equipment
Show pic of your template fro. Your division
getting biggerr
Told you sinkiang is ez
Also when you get new focus tree dont annoy japan or they wil invade
btw i have no civ
How did that happen😂
🤔
Can u switch it back?
Damn
I wouldn’t get it in that situation
also show combat modifiers
remove the line arty
Well Poland rejected my demand
İVE MERGED WİTH THE CHİNESE COMMUNİST
hello yalls
They always accept that i think
Wsp
im good
Yep
hbu
Good
which one should i start
epo
nice
k
im at moms
hello bello ppl
Middle
im on vacation rn
Nice to where
helllo
land reforms?
im at espoo finland
The one with moa zedong somewhere
even tho im Estonian
niceeeeeeeee
Cool
alr
moa wat
what
@winged plaza :P
thazs not combat modifiers
im currently drinking coca cola
Maoism i think
im currently getting railed by electricity 😭 : /
oke
damn im sorry
hover over the stats from your division that are in combat, the 45 as example
W
so sshuold i call the soviets for help?
up to you
@fair bough
This?
yeah
can someone answer my question
Yeah
What question
Into war?
ye
@fair bough
you have no planning but thats even them whatever, ur division is just shit
I dont know why they did i suck at navy
when i integrated the chinese communists they were at war with jap
now im at war with jspa
oh sorry
Thats weird i dont think that happend to me
57 base soft is horrible
Why say sorry?
becus im sorry
Then how do you improve those
U dint have to be
alr
👍
im also horrible at navy
Rush gun2, only produce gun 2 and not gun0/1 bc they are useless
DO İ CLİCK İT
Same
No
get doctrines/better doctrines
i only or mostly use land army
get green air and cas
OKE
the Rest idc
Just declare war and it goes away i think
Same
I know how planes work but its boring
Cool
it has very good dips
Never heard of it
the khan of steel will be angry
@glad lake im abt go to work if you have any question dm il answer when im done working
do yall maybe know when the game will be on sale?
like how often is the game on sale
i dunno
there will be steam sale
and
um
paradox can do a sale anytime
PARADOX PLEASE İ NEED A SALE
MY MOM WİLL ALLOW ME TO BUY A DLC ON SALES
well the next like big steam sale is in june
Go to gg.deals that is a nice site to buy steam keys
naw mate
im in turkiye
so
everything is overpriced
i can buy things like when they are 6 bucks
maybe 10
u can buy keys for the games?
yeah
wut the hll
how good are Marine commandos like why are they better than normal marines?
they can pull out without a port bro
Before I was able to intervene
Germany and Spain collapsed in seconds
nothing else
your better of mixing normal marines with rangers tho
alr
Its gonna be tough if they attack tho
is russia in the third internationale?
then its ok
Italy for some reason joined Russian faction also
who were you at war with?
Hungary and Balkan coalition
yea germany did die quick tho
do yk if gamersgate is legit
should i do fdr usa commie usa or fascist usa
cuz im pretty sure theres no monarchy for usa
and im indecisive
dont really like both, but if i have to choose fascist
Is it considered an offical store or a third party key reseller if its the latter then it is not safe
but i get so little land
and so little men
but a really big border
as the junta
u got decisions
i struggled a bit bcs some months ago i did it for the first time
but i saw u can do focuses to unlock decisions to spawn divisions
tbh the whole senate shit is so complicated
so u can encircle them
i heard there were 2 fascist ones
the confederate and the junta
which one do i do
i did the macarthur junta last time
official store
yeah that is safe
i did macarthur last time wasnt really much, try confederate i guess
where do i remove these LF mp roles
how do i get it
i know i wait for fdr to retire and go for gold standard
i think its the same of macarthur but when he ask to take power u dont lett him
oh ok
not sure tho
Anyone got any wonderful ideas?
what country r u
The allies lost the seuz and so I will receive any reinforcements soon
The Roman Empire
More commonly known as the Byzantine Empire
I have 15 divisions in the east
a large amount of those are only meant as port garrisons
I was still building up when war came to my door
1940
I defeated Turkey in 1938
then went for an early war against the czech entente (Romania, Switzerland, Yugoslavia, France and Czechoslovakia
we lost all our navy and sunk half of our navy but at least we did it
I think the play is to try and capitulate Italy.
It will be really funny if u fail this
Capitulating Italy means I get a puppet
if you're doing a naval invasion and no one is distracting both germany and italy will focus on it
fr
I AM the naval invasion
💀
supposed to
i still have no idea how navy works, i put ships on a sea tile and press patrol
and i get no dominance
Do u wait
Because it takes time for dominance now
Not instantly like before
what do i do here
just wait until somebody else can naval inade in 1942 or something
This one is for dominance
i forgot to use my airforce
i also miss managed it like crazy we had 4k planes in one base
yea so how am i meant to win russian civil war with no divisions?
I’ll try later
And how do I start naval battles
And how do I stop my convoys from getting sunk
have it training in the background before the civil war and without it ticked to any specific location, delete all units before civil war, start civil war, spawn in cavalry and take over the country
thats how i win czech civil war everytime
does that even work in russian civil war?
I saw that the Germans just declared war on free france
And I was looking at the map where they are
Found 'em
south west engalnd is not that important
Is the new dlc worth trying?
air is so important in this game lol
this is why i never play iron man i always forget some small thing
Nah
currently playing Britain
i've rushed Mech by April 1938
i'm giving mech a try for one of the first times
my Shock Inf has SPGs in it
i should probably invest in Tank Destroyers to deal with Panzers in North Africa
if you can't tell i'm going for a Technological Army
if u love czechoslovakia yes
the dlc only adds stuff for czechoslovakia as far as i know
50 divisions incircled
convert the soviet divs to arty and sell the rest to like spain or something before
every time i try to kill the usa it ends up like this
when i sent the image i was more refering to my whole army being exiled to romania
i did win the civil war tho after just deleting them and training new
Is communist Czechoslovakia broken
Hello guys, I am interested in learning how to play the game. How do i start
No
Aw hell nawh
You will lose 900 hours of your life
Sounds like a dream
Dream?
Ron is different from hoi4
Or more depending on how much you like the mods
Play italy
why not germany
Italy
isnt germany like overpowered
Italy is a good way to start
i played this game like 4 yrs ago and i remember how i was never able to get resources
because my convoys just gbot destroyed or smth
That will happen a lot to Italy
Delete the game i guess
Prussia of the Balkans achievement. If you go Tsar Ferdinand I, the best route you can go is defeating Axis and Allies, then annexing all of Balkans and Turkey, releasing Turkey and then declaring war on USSR and Turkey
No
Welcome, not that good unless you use the mechanized ones IIRC
I love non historical sm
so rangers are better still?
Probably yeh
always the japanese wanting 1/2 of siberia
and always me fighting them on it
do i just rawdog italy without basically any knowledge of how to play
so real
does siberia have 0 supply and almost no good rss? yes
will i still take it? yes
attrition destroying equipment and not manpower is worse than hitler
1 million deaths just for some ice and snow
tell me how if my troops have no food the first thing that goes is like 10k rifles and not 10k men
ESPECIALLY when playing a chinese clique/prc
thats so bs
they eat the rifle
playing as usa, litterally had one war that lasted 30 days with mexico
cant declear war, most boring and fun game at the same time
its super annoying when playing PRC when i get attritioned so that i lose 20k in infantry eq instead of manpower
like i can get a ton of mp as china
cause its china
but eq?
thats the diff story
yeah i swear it increases attrition losses when you have no military industry
when you have 0 manpower atrittion takes manpower
when u have 0 eq atrittion takes eq
is prolly how its coded
i thought attrition never takes manpower
theres something called reading
the two stat bonuses
when you hover over them
