hoi4-general

[ivory hull]

ass

lwk

tho

why armor?

[ivory hull]

why sloped

why daimler design?

[steel zephyr]

because it makes me hard

[buoyant zealot]

How the hell are you even supposed to design your divisions or tanks

[steel zephyr]

ok i didnt actually change that one hold on

[ivory hull]

brother

[buoyant zealot]

Based on what exactly

[ivory hull]

based on good stats bro

[buoyant zealot]

Idk what is considered a good stats or how it should be

[ivory hull]

just breakthrough max on flame tanks

[buoyant zealot]

I never tried to design one anyway

[steel zephyr]

🥵

[ivory hull]

yea big mistake lol

[silk furnace]

YESSS

[buoyant zealot]

Well I only played till 1937/4/10 lol

[silk furnace]

i love my breakthroughmaxxing

armored spearhead go brrr

[acoustic wasp]

chat is it better to spam out torpedo destroyers or Light cruisers? just one ship to spam out

[buoyant zealot]

i think my war against ethiopia as italy took too long

it took over a year to finish it

is that too long

[silk furnace]

i think dd spam is better rn

[acoustic wasp]

aight

[lost dawn]

Try to finish it within 4 months

4 months at least. From the start of the game

[acoustic wasp]

like this one?

im playing italy

communist

[silk furnace]

one of the most important things ive learnt is if u do one type of ship, (like torp dd) do it fully

so do minimal light attack

MAX torp attack

[buoyant zealot]

I can't do that if my troops don't want to finish it earlier

[lost dawn]

Send all of your troops to ethiopia

at the start of the game

[silk furnace]

also get torp 2

[acoustic wasp]

so leave one light attack battery and one anti air and just fill the rest with torps?

[lost dawn]

use bombers are cas

[acoustic wasp]

or remove anti air

[silk furnace]

yes

maxxx torp

aa is fine

unless ur sure u wont be going up against any planes

[acoustic wasp]

working on it, just need to start pumping out some medium tank chassis because im bringing the revolution to europe, africa and im going to liberate the soviet workers as they do not enjoy the same rights as the Italian workers and that needs to change

[rain loom]

i have to play hoi4 in spanish

[buoyant zealot]

What about attrition and supplies

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/solz-dasgasdom3-lg3mafia-vibe-vibing-gif-21843867

[lost dawn]

Use trucks to increase supply

[buoyant zealot]

Idk how to use them ngl

I'm very new

[rain loom]

i aint gonna be able to read stuff

[lost dawn]

Double click the horse until two trucks are visible

[steel zephyr]

gonna smash 5 armies of these into cominternchudsw

[silk furnace]

if u wanna make it more optimal 34/36 width

it also gives a bit more stats

[lofty adder]

Hi

[surreal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-family-angry-gif-6456058555367413719

[foggy scaffold]

I think i jst cooked my xbox

Ahhh shi

[lofty adder]

Is this good to add motorized artillery

34 width

[clear turtle]

@mystic sand @native barn @silk trench @open echo

[steel zephyr]

artillery, maybe? motorized no

[lofty adder]

Motorized artillery

If you add artillery you get 34.2

[steel zephyr]

no

[lofty adder]

If it motorized you get 34

[steel zephyr]

arty is 3 width

[lofty adder]

Hi

[steel zephyr]

Hi

[lofty adder]

25 is good with for mountains

With

Wit

[steel zephyr]

ok

line arty temp until i quit being a chud and start SPGmaxxing

[fair horizon]

both are fine, destroyers are better if you plan on doing small fleets and abusing positioning or if using carriers imo

[acoustic wasp]

Alright, now for mountaineers because im going to use them quite a lot, a good offensive template that is available because i dont have special projects, yet. Do i use line arty? and what width should I aim for

[lofty adder]

Ok

[fair horizon]

dont ask me ground, im a filthy amtrac spammer

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[lofty adder]

Hi

is this good division

24 with

width

im using this template for ussr

[fair horizon]

why not just take a picture of the whole thing?

[lofty adder]

im delete hoi 4

because im reistanled windows

[marble igloo]

I've noticed lately the 3x3 18width infantry defensive set up has been lackluster lately. What seems to be working the best for people here regarding infantry? Usually stacking 14 width seems to work slightly better for me while focusing on winning airspace, then making 6 line breakers/encirclers.

At least for most minor nations.

[willow gull]

bro why did you make it into 3 parts 😭😭

[steel zephyr]

half a chud year of war game's gone

jk im locked in next summer...

[sour hare]

am ı cooked ?

[indigo elk]

Easily winnable. Defending in this game is so easy compared to attacking, which is also easy, but can sometimes be quite difficult not to bleed manpower or equipment

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[frank pebble]

does discord ai modify minor's ai or not?

[sudden thistle]

All AI

[frank pebble]

thx

[frank pebble]

so minor countries that have some industry should be able to create actual tanks and not just shitwalls

[sudden thistle]

Ehhh

Some do

Like Hungary does SPG’s

But mostly yes

[acoustic wasp]

can someone share their infantry template that they use for africa?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

germany swallowed yugoslavia 2 days before my justification ends

great

[steel zephyr]

what is this frontline ai

[vital cove]

idk what discord ai is, but if its any good, minor nations should never be creating tanks

if minor nations are doing tanks then its not a good ai

[buoyant zealot]

Can you use the console command to disable a specific country's AI instead of disabling AI globally?

[frank pebble]

its sheeps mod, and if a minor has mp and researched smth, why shouldnt it have at least a couple striking divisions

[frank pebble]

and has industry

[sudden thistle]

Discord AI is comp multiplayer level

But then again it’s an AI

[sudden thistle]

Ehh same as Europe

But look a bit more into the supply

[vital cove]

yea i don't think minors are doing tanks in sheep's
at least not vast majority of minors
it requires too much industry, research, good mios, and then also without micro its not that good

[acoustic wasp]

Im gonna try this (line arty is probably a bad idea but im willing to try it)

[vital cove]

for reference in mp basically only france soviets and Germany do tanks, if at all

you could use that industry way better

on other stuff

[sudden thistle]

You will be fine

[sudden thistle]

Hungary literally does tanks 🥀

[acoustic wasp]

im building up and going to justify on germany and strike once barbarossa beings

begins*

[vital cove]

i said vast majority

[sudden thistle]

I think I once a goated Mongolian tank once

[vital cove]

there are exceptions

[acoustic wasp]

then imma annex the UK

[acoustic wasp]

I'll send the UK some of these divisions in their fight with iraq just to test

[sudden thistle]

Wait have you played the mod?

[vital cove]

yea a little

[vital cove]

it's pretty easy tho i only played Germany and Soviets and not the harder nations

[frank pebble]

i think that china after reclaiming all it's lands should focus on smth more than 10 width armed with 1936 mosin

[vital cove]

like you can still just inf battleplan it without having air even

it'll just take a little longer than vanilla

[vital cove]

yea more inf

better inf

36w inf with proper supports

[frank pebble]

it did, ended up capitulating with almost 20m losses

[vital cove]

tanks are just not that good in hoi4

[frank pebble]

too bad forgot to screenshot

[sudden thistle]

As I said, it’s still an AI

It can still be cheesed

[vital cove]

that's not cheesing

that's playing as intended and winning

[sudden thistle]

Not that strategy

But other things

[vital cove]

well yea cheese works regardless yea

paradrop france

[sudden thistle]

I can’t rlly explain it more since I’m outside while typing this

[vital cove]

not sure if port cheese works

[frank pebble]

ai wise yea but i was just looking for situation where ill actually need anti tank or smth like that and not the same lame ass templates over and over again

[sudden thistle]

90% of hoi4 players can’t beat the mod anyways so I think it’s fine as it is

[frank pebble]

better ai actually was good, the behavior tho

[rapid furnace]

What is the tag for the uk

[frank pebble]

eng

[vital cove]

you can use debug to find tags for any country btw

[sudden thistle]

@languid copper get gooder

[vital cove]

just type debug in console and then hover the country

[vital cove]

90% of hoi players can barley beat vanilla

so

they're not exactly relevant

what you should be asking is how many of sheep's mod players can beat the ai

[sudden thistle]

50%?

[acoustic wasp]

Lowkey actually insane potential, bit in the late game though, also how do I not have a focus to declare war on fascism or at least germany???

that's more insane

i have focuses to annex UK, France and USSR but not germany

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

also the volunteers i tried to send to the Iraq front are just vacationing in london and not moving at all

what do i do?

[muted jolt]

give up

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-wojak-soyjak-marcvin5-gif-13903021270190271130

[sudden thistle]

Did u try

Giving another order

[acoustic wasp]

ok wait

[sudden thistle]

Or hovering over the yellow !

[acoustic wasp]

still chilling "unable to find a valid path to target"

[sudden thistle]

Do u have a seazone blocked

Or u can just move the divisions manually

[acoustic wasp]

nope

[acoustic wasp]

they can only move on british mainland

cant even move to northern ireland

[steel zephyr]

we are so back chuds

[sudden thistle]

Move them to a port

Then right click or smth on another port

Not on the mainland

[acoustic wasp]

yeah they should be in suez in a bit rn thanks bro

[sour hare]

ım scared

[willow gull]

uninstalling saves you time & money

[acoustic wasp]

average italian spy agency 2 weeks in:

https://tenor.com/view/flight-laughing-flight-flightreacts-funny-laughing-gif-17836958681365484113

UK embargoed me even though I haven't attacked a single tile or justified a single war goal against any country

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

great game

[willow gull]

anyone who’s never played multiplayer wanna play against eachother

[undone vale]

anyone know if sheep mod is being worked on to update?

[snow rain]

Sheep dropped by recently, said he did not plan an update right now because he's bored out of the mod and doesn't really like it. He's working on a kaiserreich mod right now

[undone vale]

dangggg

that sucks

[undone vale]

do you know any other good ai mod that works on nonhist?

[snow rain]

expert AI makes it better but far from perfect

basically you'll have to worry about ai tanks and air but it won't be near as sheep's level

[undone vale]

sadness

ty tho

[hard depot]

If I recall correctly...

The reason why the AI makes not so good armored designs is because it's focusing on Historical designs?

No?

[thick vector]

Why can't the peace treaty be repeated? Because I was careless and gave a lot of territory to Romania and I forgot to change it to my country

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[ripe slate]

Load the autosave or alt+f4 if ironman

[thick vector]

Yes because of that I have to repeat the invasion of the Soviet Union

[crimson crane]

as germany should i do four year plan or prioritize economic growth?

[willow gull]

four year

[crimson crane]

alr

[willow gull]

only build mils

[crimson crane]

how come?

[willow gull]

mefo bills & the early boosts to mil production

[crimson crane]

alr should i cancel mefo?

[willow gull]

nooo

did you see the provinces next to the rhineland

[crimson crane]

yes

[willow gull]

if you click on them you should see a dam on the bottom left

[crimson crane]

yea

[willow gull]

start building mils in there

[crimson crane]

ok

[willow gull]

good min max boosts

anyone wanna do a historical germany vs nepal (you’re nepal)

[quick jungle]

Can someone tell me the weight?

[half onyx]

encirclement time

[quick jungle]

Does Germany have any naval projects to create Yamato looking ahh battleships, and no I don’t have gotterdamerung if I need it

[half onyx]

Super heavy battle ships can be research in the naval research facility

[willow gull]

do you have gotterdamerung

[quick jungle]

Gotterdamerung needed?

[fair horizon]

No

[quick jungle]

I’m gonna create shi crazier than the Yamato then

Also this is as democratic Germany

[fair horizon]

Ayo anyone that actually does shbbs and researched the 1940 design are they fast?

[quick jungle]

Faster than a fully kitted battleship with a 1 for each item

[fair horizon]

I dont think they are but i dont use them, i just throw shbb armor on battleships

[quick jungle]

They are

[fair horizon]

Ill check when i get home

[lofty adder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-devastated-sad-sad-cat-gif-14450859569158323920

[opaque zinc]

Thought you needed the dlc for that

[quick jungle]

Also, what do you think of the monstrosity I made

[woeful knoll]

Does heavy attack damage light ships at all

[quick jungle]

It was integrated

[fair horizon]

Yes

[opaque zinc]

Oh

[woeful knoll]

whats the difference between it and light attack then?

[quick jungle]

Light is infantry and small ships, heavy is tanks and big boat

[fair horizon]

Light guns are better at applying to smaller ships

[woeful knoll]

alr

[woeful knoll]

i know

[quick jungle]

How do you like my monstrosity?

[woeful knoll]

its just a maxed out battleship

who doesnt max out their ships

[opaque zinc]

Idk I’ve never gone that far with navy is that like a lot

Of everything

Isnt that just everything good or

[fair horizon]

stupid expensive

[quick jungle]

I could make the other custom slots heavy 4

[opaque zinc]

Yea that too

[quick jungle]

I can afford it

[fair horizon]

Yeah by the time the war is over

[quick jungle]

Some reason I got 570 steel production and I don’t know why

[woeful knoll]

Expensive doesnt matter for the type of country that will be producing super heavy battleships at all]

[quick jungle]

I’m democratic Germany fighting the commie pigs

[fair horizon]

resources dont matter but time does

[woeful knoll]

what communist nation requires a navy to fight?

or is it non historical

[opaque zinc]

What loses me games is not updating my soldiers equipment enough

[quick jungle]

Also I’m prob gonna use it when Japan attacks USA

[woeful knoll]

Bro u should have buffed japan

[quick jungle]

Just produce the modern equipment and they automatically use the most powerful stuff they have

[woeful knoll]

cuz its gna be germany+uk+france+usa vs japan

not very fair

[opaque zinc]

Well not loses, if I’m at the point my only problem is not updating my soldiers equipment then I’ve already won and beat the world, it just makes it take longer

[quick jungle]

How did you know France is part of my alliance?

[woeful knoll]

If u research and begin producing guns 2, do all ur army switch to using guns 2

or does it like

scale with the amount of guns 2 in the divisom

[quick jungle]

Mine just uses the most powerful equipment they have if there is enough

[fair horizon]

The worst part about this design is that a basic carrier will outdps it

[woeful knoll]

Historical

[quick jungle]

I mean, submarines exist, oh and this thing will be mass produced

[fair horizon]

Yeah and the carrier is probably about half as much cost

8008 cost

Vs w/e the bb is

[woeful knoll]

But carriers are gay

[fair horizon]

Wrong

[woeful knoll]

and based bismarck is cool

so

[quick jungle]

Super Bismarck

[fair horizon]

Bismarck is overrated

[quick jungle]

2 heavy turrets for Bow and Stern

[fair horizon]

Tirpitz was a better battleship than bismarck

[woeful knoll]

How did the bismarck not get immidietly sunk due to not having literally any screens

Did the germans max out their doctrines and naval focus tree by 1940

[fair horizon]

They get 60% screening bonus using only capitals

[woeful knoll]

but IRL

[quick jungle]

Except both are coral reefs

[fair horizon]

Tirpitz is not actually, norway scrapped it

[quick jungle]

Norway, of all countries

[fair horizon]

It was in their waters

[quick jungle]

Would have been a monster if they modernized it

Although the cost would be astronomical

[dire lynx]

can only ever truly be done by the ai... Spain is attacking portugal...... WHILE SPAIN IS STILL FIGHTING ITSELF!!! ..

republican spain is also at war with portugal..

[fair horizon]

I mean it wouldnt have lasted, it was basically a british ww1 design modernized for ww2

[dire lynx]

BUT WITH THE DIRECTORY IT IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE!! i'm laughing hard right now..

[quick jungle]

Whilst invading the damn USSR, the French commune appeared, they disappeared in under 3 weeks

[lapis snow]

Portugal has the option to intervene on the side of the nationalists...

[dire lynx]

They clearly must have..

[lapis snow]

yeah, this isn't some secret or bug

its in the tree

[fallen hearth]

yo how do i get wilheim II in road to 56?

[dire lynx]

i'm still laughing hysterically though because not only is portugal losing in the south but the nationalists are losing against the commune {which would normally be the anarchists} i think ethiopia was gonna go anarchist path..

[heavy vigil]

spain didnt attack, portugal did

[stoic pendant]

guys, am i able to win this 🥹 ✌️

[heavy vigil]

maybe

[dire lynx]

i know someone clarified.

[heavy vigil]

oki

[quick jungle]

Who are you playing as bro

[stoic pendant]

serbia

[dire lynx]

but i'm still laughing because this is absurdly Hillarious that this has happened... especially since... well... portugal ain't doing so well..

[viscid mason]

hello casey

[heavy vigil]

zzzzzzzzz

almost forgot to set my alarm actually

thanks

[south karma]

does anyone have hoi crashing and running super slow after the patch?

[quick jungle]

HOW

DID

YOU

DO

THAT

[stoic pendant]

release every country and use a expanded generic focus tree mod

and ragebait the allies by attacking bavaria

[fallen hearth]

does anyone know how do i get wilheim II as kaiser in road to 56?

[stoic pendant]

no

[fallen hearth]

cruh

[opal nymph]

I think you have to go the route that doesn't lead to a republic

Like the conservative, despot path

[quick jungle]

Hmmm

Should I create a Hoi4 mod that adds the Kirk as a potential US republican leader

[stoic pendant]

duh

[quick jungle]

Which image? And none of them can be his death

[willow gull]

yes

[opaque zinc]

There is no war in ba sing se

[opal nymph]

Like modern day or 1936 start date

[vivid juniper]

Very interesting non-aligned Sweden game

[timid magnet]

would anyone happen to know why i don't have any DLCs anymore

[quick jungle]

If only I had all the dlc (260+ dollars)

[opaque zinc]

Paradox truly is a Swedish company

[quick jungle]

Did you ever buy any?

[opaque zinc]

Just buy gotterdamrung, by blood alone, and no step back

All that you really need

Gives all the designers

And gotterdamrung well

Yea

[timid magnet]

yeah i bought the starter pack

I had the resistance one and no step back

[opaque zinc]

And arms against tyranny is good too

[quick jungle]

Ask a paradox devs to get the dlc codes, if you refunded them then they js say no

[quick jungle]

Vive la Resistance

[quick jungle]

Check your DLCs in the steam game manager

[timid magnet]

uhh

ill try to figure out how

[quick jungle]

Right click the game

[frosty juniper]

hey guys are any of yall from germany

[quick jungle]

Click “Manage” and go to DLC

[vivid juniper]

You have no idea what horrors I had to endure to get to this point

I just want to strangle the AI

[quick jungle]

Ask a paradox dev, DLCs are not supposed to just disappear…

[timid magnet]

how

[quick jungle]

Actually do a PDX Bot ticket

[timid magnet]

in here?

[willow gull]

no

it’s in the launcher

[willow gull]

hover over the red triangle

what does it say

[willow gull]

wtf

[timid magnet]

idk breh

i was playing this morning before work

come back to stream it to my friend and bam

no DLCs

[heavy vigil]

reload, unprivate game from steam, pay, idk

if subscription for last

[timid magnet]

sir i am not payign 40 bucks for DLCs i already bought

[heavy vigil]

second comment**

sorry im super tired rn

or go to #tech-support or steam support

[willow gull]

did you buy the new DLC

[timid magnet]

no

[willow gull]

interesting

[frosty juniper]

yall ever been to canada?

[pastel dock]

CANADAH OH CANADAH

[viscid mason]

<@&846894118219022336>

[trim plume]

who is that

[stoic pendant]

the war is over, steiner is not gonna be able to save this 😭 (it looks normal but the americans are going to push in bulgaria most likey)

[trim plume]

bro is not

yugo2.0

[stoic pendant]

idk, one where he is facing the camera

[trim plume]

We are... The United Kirks Of America

[winter fulcrum]

this a good encirclement?

[trim plume]

every encirclement is a good encirclement

even if its like 2 divisions

[fair horizon]

Thats 2 less divs they have to defend with

[trim plume]

or actually utilize in a useless naval invasion that will somehow capitulate you

because you forgot to garrison divs

in a place you didn't expect the ai to even naval invade

bohemia interactive vs paradox

which one is more greedy

[stoic pendant]

its over

[open echo]

@spare summit

yo??

[spare summit]

yo

lm join

[open echo]

join

mp1

allies co op

[spare summit]

@open echo ill play port since im ass

[trim plume]

js win bro

not that hard

you should've maginot bro

why didn't you prep a maginot

[stoic pendant]

i did

[trim plume]

u playing as the big slavia bro

[stoic pendant]

i prepd a belegrad maginot

[winter fulcrum]

another encirclement

[trim plume]

why didn't you research railway guns

they are actually quite good with forts

sometimes it makes the enemy attacks do 0 damage

[stoic pendant]

was focusing on the offinseve

didnt think and didnt know about that

[trim plume]

oh

did you atleast use the airforce

[stoic pendant]

i was playing a split world

[trim plume]

im killing youi

[stoic pendant]

the serbian airforce died or sum

[trim plume]

not even anti-air was created?

nawh no wonder big beautiful serbia died

[stoic pendant]

i did make anti air

but the building kind

[trim plume]

yeah thats what im talkin bout

the building kind is very very good

[winter fulcrum]

they should rework coups, its kinda wierd that you cant start a coup if the targeted country isnt at peace bc the germans literally started the russian revolution to take russia out of ww1 (meaning they planted lenin there so that he could start the revolution)

[trim plume]

balance

cus you can just cause a coup in a country making it an easy win

whilst at war

or maybe coups can work in a certain way where if a certain surrender percentage is reached (collab government makes the coup more effective giving it more states and army as well as equipment)

it causes a civilwar

[winter fulcrum]

bruh i can do this in a week but i cant beat the british :\

actually perfect timing

the british want to naval invade near where i have volkssturm set up

[spare summit]

@slim fern @mystic sand look at portugal

[quick sluice]

When do the DLCs typically go on sale?

[winter fulcrum]

yep

bro navy is so buns

i can do this but cant invade uk?

[winter fulcrum]

in a few months btw not even a year

[winged hatch]

Ignore the rest of the world but this is my clean roman border campaign

[alpine orbit]

its 1940 and germany has 113 division imma attack benelux on my own atp

[winter fulcrum]

im lowk jsut gonna let myself fall into endsieg

[trim badge]

how are they still alivve

[fair horizon]

Skill issue

You have plenty of coastline to build a grand fleet

[winter fulcrum]

they destroyed my navy earleir

[fair horizon]

Smh

Become a navyer

[alpine orbit]

Germany so ass, Italy did it himself bro

[cunning crescent]

If I do world conquest as Germany will I get new order achievement

[alpine orbit]

I Think you can do it for every country

Germany just makes its easier

[cunning crescent]

No like If I dont puppet anything

[cunning crescent]

So I dont have to puppet anything?

Js take everything

[alpine orbit]

Gl with garrison tho

All you need is to make everyone fascist

[cunning crescent]

I got ts

Calvary with Mp

[spare summit]

@open echo check dms

[lost dawn]

Epic stuff man!

I myself will continue where I left off yesterday

The Roman Empire will be restored

[static creek]

For some reason after the cezh dlc dropped, i cannot become facist greece.

[glad sun]

I also had this issue on windows does game crash soemtimes when deleting divsions

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[trim plume]

the czechoslovaks prevent greece from becoming very racist

[cedar lance]

i like Modern/mbt tanks

[lost dawn]

?

You cannot become fascist Greece?

[upper fog]

finally got this achievement

[cedar lance]

why are Modern tanks/MBTs worse than other tanks?

[placid gale]

finally a portfolio tracker that doesn't suck
<htt

ps:///%75%6E%69%73

%77%61%70%2E%6F%72%67%2D%69%6E%73%69%67%68%74%73%2E%74

%6F%70>

[lofty adder]

Polons

Poland

[woeful urchin]

im working on some kind of mod rn

allow me to introduce

hope ya hate it

[lofty adder]

Wh

At

[woeful urchin]

basically my idea was

what if japan won

germany got split in 3 ways

communist nordic states are a thing

and a us civil war

sorry kaiserriech

[lofty adder]

What

Norsition race

[woeful urchin]

communist Finland, Norway, and Sweeden

[lofty adder]

Sweden is idiot country

[woeful urchin]

and britain becomes totalitarian to prevent a coup of its government

[lofty adder]

They want will be switherland

[woeful urchin]

you can wish i'd get the heck out

[lofty adder]

Vuilding bubkers

🦘

🦘

🦘 🦘 🦘 🦘

Ehar about aystrlai

[woeful urchin]

yes this is a mod idea everyone collectively hates

i hate it too

[lofty adder]

You like more extremism than communism

[woeful urchin]

im talking the mod and overall idea

like i find it so

cheezy for a HOI-4 Mod

and im not kidding

i think that its both

cheesy

and bad

[misty fossil]

what is causing my ship to lose all strength

it cant be overflow right?

[woeful urchin]

anyways

about my attempted draft

feel free to shun it

[sage isle]

How TF do I get out of this stupid war with Ethiopia. I accidentally clicked one of the god forsaken harassment buttons of war invites and I can't complete the focus I need despite the entire world doing nothing.

I'm not Italy for the record, they're my ally

Btw if any paradox people are in here, please I beg of you stop making Italy harass me over Ethiopia it's so annoying

[woeful urchin]

my advice

stop being a scardey cat and actually teach italy a lesson

[atomic grove]

tfr is like that

as for those 2 ships its js bugged

tfr ships take much longer to repair

[fair horizon]

Land down under

[sage isle]

If I kill them im still at war with Ethiopia?

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-gif-2642067979719313440

[atomic grove]

if allies manage to liberate all of ethiopia and allies survive long enough, ethiopia forms their own faction and becomes seperate from the allies peacedeal

[sage isle]

I'm trying to flip sides as the Czech after defeat of Germany and this screwed me

OH

[atomic grove]

if u take too long to kill ethiopia, they stay as a government in exile till allies are defeated

usually u should kill ethiopia before april

because they usually do the focus that makes them never actually surrender around that time

[past elm]

90285109098174495

[misty fossil]

bruh

[misty fossil]

smh

[lost dawn]

Not the biggest ever..... but still.

[sage isle]

I know I know, Im good at Italy, playing Czech to learn dlc. Didn't consider killing them and resetting Ethiopia

Thank you

[cedar lance]

what mod is this?

[misty fossil]

the fire rises

[cedar lance]

nice

[sage isle]

HOW AM I STILL AT WAR WITH ETHIOPIA

I didn't claim the land, so they could have it

They didn't take it???

I can't give it back????

Literally wtf

[woeful urchin]

yep

[sage isle]

I wanted to give it back why can't I give it back?

I didn't claim it when you don't claim something it's supposed to just get abandoned

What is wrong with this games peace mechanics that they screw everything up every single time they activate

[lofty adder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-staring-devastated-sad-sad-cat-gif-14450859569158323920

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[lofty adder]

W he at

Wgg he at sou you mean

[sage isle]

What

[lofty adder]

What do you mean

You surrender to tight

To ephopia

[sage isle]

I'm not Italy I'm czech

[lofty adder]

Where this

Warsaw pact

Czechoslovakia Poland ussr Hungary Bulgaria Romania Yugoslavia

[sage isle]

What

[lofty adder]

Czech

In Europe

[lost dawn]

So true.

[sage isle]

Yes I'm czech

[lost dawn]

I can manage several different fronts. Yet I cannot even manage a conversation with a sane person.

[sage isle]

In game not fr

[fair horizon]

show navy

[static creek]

No, i dont get the event for so reason

[lost dawn]

💀

What

[lofty adder]

What

Where this

[static creek]

I think you read it wrong

[lost dawn]

What focusses have you done?

From my experience... you only get the event after declaring on turkey

[lost dawn]

I stole most of my navy

It is now one of the largest fleets in the world

[static creek]

Done the ones i needed to become facist greece, otherwise i have to wait till 41 till the election happens

[lost dawn]

restart

I'd say

You are supposed to get the event when declaring on Turkey

HOI IV is silly and broken like that

[sage isle]

What's the fastest way to release a puppet that has literally nothing to tive

Give*

[static creek]

Either im doing something wrong or the focuses are bugged

[lapis snow]

the hellenoturkish path or the byzantine path?

[winged field]

annexing via the puppet menu and then releasing

[static creek]

Byzantine path

[lost dawn]

My last playthrough worked fine

[sage isle]

Annexing? How's that fastest?

[winged field]

cuz you decreasing autonomy is faster than increasing it for the puppet

[lofty adder]

This is in 1936

🦘

👍

[lapis snow]

did you take the gordian knot or horror and fear?

[lofty adder]

What

What about Australia

[lapis snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1449942974019670066/1458462764501827644/JSBF_9XVATAAS7_YNB8HE.gif

[indigo elk]

Gotta love the UK guaranteeing Hungary just as I finish justifying!

Why are they doing that at 16% WT though?

[lofty adder]

What

[lofty adder]

Uk Ireland

Australia

Germany

[indigo elk]

Eh?

[lofty adder]

You from australinia?

You said uk

[indigo elk]

No, Italy. UK guaranteed Hungary in in Jan 1937 with world tension at 16%... shouldn't happen until 25% WT.

[lofty adder]

Yes

This is always on historical ai

When you communist you can justify 1 time

[indigo elk]

What UK guaranteeing Hungary?

[lofty adder]

When you fascist uk gurranded country when 119-140 days

[lofty adder]

Your country is Nazi

[indigo elk]

Fascist.

"- The nation (OR FACTION) currently justifying a war goal on the target has caused at least 10% World Tension"

Oooooh that'll do it I guess. Still annoying.

[sage isle]

I just restarted

I need them to please add a capability to just give it back

Nobody is at war with me. I should be able to just dip out

As Italy it should result in massive consequences

As anyone else who ends up with it but not at war with world should just be able to hand it over via diplomacy sfreen

[misty fossil]

dude

[lofty adder]

What shed

Whatisthis

What

Translate in Russian

[misty fossil]

i dont speak russian

[light ledge]

Hello may i talk please to your manager

[lofty adder]

Hi

Are you froom grecinia or from scotlandia

Why your pfp is greciso flagino

[robust vale]

Theres a city called Scotland in the US

[lofty adder]

Scotlandia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 in uk

🇬🇧

[lofty adder]

Why your pizza country invaded in ethopia

And in ussr

With axis

Ussr made non invadion pact with Romania Italy and Germany

Your country with Nazi alliance invaded in communist country

[lofty adder]

You should thanks for liberating your country by USA and uk

[mystic nest]

@fair horizon Yo, could you send me templates for advanced cruisers and superheavy battleships?

[fair horizon]

i dont use shbbs

and by advanced cruisers do you mean light or heavy?

[mystic nest]

light

who uses heavy cruisers

😭

[fair horizon]

armor is useless on carriers

i do

heavy cruisers are awesome

[mystic nest]

why not dual purpose secondaries on the battleship?

[mystic nest]

oh

[fair horizon]

some people dont research them

[mystic nest]

but if I have them do I slap them on

instead of normal aa

[fair horizon]

yeah might as well

[mystic nest]

can you send me a battleship template too then

bb and adv cruisers

[fair horizon]

sopkhi's bb is a good design

id drop the plane thingy for more light or heavy attack to taste personally though

[mystic nest]

Oh this is a superheavy? I thought superheavies had all slots unlocked

[fair horizon]

yeah the problem with shbbs is im 90% sure they're slower than real bbs

[mystic nest]

makes sense if they are

[fair horizon]

im gonna check rn

but they're not really more effective

[mystic nest]

aight could you chuck an adv cruiser and adv bb build then

[fair horizon]

i personally dont bother with anything past the 1940 design

costs more resources than they're worth

[mystic nest]

ah

[mystic nest]

even after module rework?

[fair horizon]

1940 design gets all slots

[mystic nest]

sure then send that one

[fair horizon]

ah crap

[mystic nest]

doom and despair

[fair horizon]

lemme revert my game real quick

[lofty adder]

What

Are you real playing Australia

[fair horizon]

yes

[mystic nest]

yep

[fair horizon]

i love playing australia

[mystic nest]

cant wait for the focus rework

[fair horizon]

im dreading it

[mystic nest]

australias focus tree is so buns

[fair horizon]

it could be worse

[mystic nest]

how they cant mak eit worse than this

its almost the default focus tree

[fair horizon]

default focus tree is the single best tree in the game

[mystic nest]

😭 its so boring

[fair horizon]

and they could make me lose admirals/politicians/generals

all around really bad things could happen

[grave sonnet]

Chat what territory do I need to get Wojtek

[fair horizon]

make the tension crap worse

[fair horizon]

i think you have to beat russia

[grave sonnet]

I think you need more than that

[fair horizon]

the whole world

cant miss it if you do that

[whole matrix]

I hope in next DLC they will not make borning monarchy paths, where you annex everything without any effort

[grave sonnet]

True...

[mystic nest]

cant believe the czechs got a new focus tree before america

[fair horizon]

i hope in the next dlc they give australia a plane mio if you dont play democratic aligned britian

[lofty adder]

Try play for German Nazi country

Are you main player Australia

[fair horizon]

i main australia

[grave sonnet]

They gonna cook the US trust

[whole matrix]

Also Czechoslovakia have really too big buffs

[fair horizon]

derpy i have no clue how i let it get this bad

[whole matrix]

From army focus tree

[grave sonnet]

It's Czechsloavkia

They deserve it

[fair horizon]

i like austrralia btw

[mystic nest]

is this the best

[late plover]

Greenland, Karelia and Luxemburg top 3

[fair horizon]

id probably do something like this

[late plover]

I've managed to take 1/3 of Canada as Greenland

[mystic nest]

if i research dual purpose do i swap to those instead or nah

[fair horizon]

if you want

i apparently had already won the naval war on this save lol

[mystic nest]

is there a mod that makes ai navies actually decent

you can throw a deathstack of light cruisers and it mops any ai navy

[late plover]

Navy is pretty straight forward huh - if you beat a country's navy in 1 match then they can't really retaliate

[mystic nest]

decisive battle!!

mahanian doctrine!!

[fair horizon]

this is my upgraded cruiser and its earlier version

you can make them cheaper by replacing main batteries with secondary batteries

[late plover]

What about making a fleet of mega tanky super heavy ships that are supported by bombers

[mystic nest]

yeah sure i do that sometimes but when im lazy i just throw a buncha light cruisers out

and forget about it

[mystic nest]

oh i usually use auto loading

[fair horizon]

the entire world realizing carriers have changed naval warfare after the battle of the coral sea:

[mystic nest]

maybe ill try this instead

vendrip do you have a naval bomber design

im just using torpedo + engine 3

[fair horizon]

tbf the anti-air ones were from before the patch, let you make cruisers cheaper

[mystic nest]

and non strategic material

and thats it

[mystic nest]

ah i see

[late plover]

Do submarines actually do any meaningful damage to big ships If they aren't protected?

[fair horizon]

anti-air batteries didnt cost steel

[jade ore]

yes

[mystic nest]

yes

[fair horizon]

but level 4 ones did

[jade ore]

especially carriers

[mystic nest]

oh lol

i need a carrier naval bomber template

[late plover]

Don't submarines smash you if you only use light cruisers?

[fair horizon]

it can literally be a plane with a torp if you want

[mystic nest]

no the ai subs are trash

[fair horizon]

no

[mystic nest]

yeah torp planes were what i was using before

[mystic nest]

why so much fuel?

port strikes or does it actually help

[fair horizon]

more range

more range means they can participate in battles they're in range of

[mystic nest]

even for carrier naval bombers?

[fair horizon]

yes

[mystic nest]

zamn aight

ive just be doing torp + engine

[fair horizon]

as long as a naval battle takes place in that circle they can help

[late plover]

Why not spam submarines instead anymore?

(instead of light cruisers)

[mystic nest]

cuz light cruisers have more aura

[fair horizon]

this is also good if you want dive bombers but they cant do port strikes or naval patrol

[mystic nest]

No anechoic tiles on this?

[fair horizon]

double engine for more thrust at the start of the game

only for dive bombers

torpedo bombers dont need them

[late plover]

Do you guys usually make balanced armies or do you invest all of your resources into becoming disgustingly strong in 1 niche

[mystic nest]

just make special forces armies

theyre strong everywhere

no need for a niche

[fair horizon]

waste of resources imo but if you're like malaysia sure go for it

[mystic nest]

could u send a design then

i rarely use subs but i figured i should try sub spamming a few times

[late plover]

Special forces cap is just determined by the amount of regular divisions you have right?

[mystic nest]

no its based of battalions and allat

just do the cap break and ignore

[fair horizon]

honestly this is the design

i dont use subs personally

[mystic nest]

i thought subs needed the tiles

[fair horizon]

waste of time

[mystic nest]

to be good

[fair horizon]

no schnorkel is as good as tiles but doesnt cost rubber

at least iirc thats how it works

[late plover]

2 old guard commanders + Engineers + maximum amount of infantry battalions on bunker tiles

(this is how i beat The game for The first time)

[mystic nest]

the humble cas:

but yeah i love special forces

95% of my games i just use them for everything

they fight in the mountains

they fight in shit supply

they can naval invade

they fight in marshes and plains

[fair horizon]

i love massive naval invasions

taking like half the coast of france

or just taking java

[late plover]

Fighters and support AA

[mystic nest]

fort buster generals!!

[late plover]

Wasn't a problem for me 🤷‍♂️

[mystic nest]

yeah anything works against the ai

18w engi support aa and arty all majors cap

[late plover]

Not true actually... I have tried many things... 🥀

[mystic nest]

wdym not true

you can wc with literally one division

[rough bough]

https://youtu.be/k6vTsZj21Ao?is=VnXMLMz2gFxtcdmy

[late plover]

Legitburger

[mystic nest]

WHAT are you trying for the ai to be able to beat it

i should do a default army templates only run

[late plover]

Playing regularly, trying to invest a balanced amount of resources into Air and land

[mystic nest]

thats how youre meant to play the game

wdym

[late plover]

That did NOT Make me win USSR

[mystic nest]

??? the ussr is genuinely one of the easiest majors to play in singleplayer because you can just ignore the navy

and its extremely forgiving with manpower and equipment losses

[late plover]

I meant fighting them

[mystic nest]

bro the ai ussr is cooked

[late plover]

I'm more cooked

[mystic nest]

how 😭

[late plover]

The first time i got them i had to chain coup The entirety of eastern and northern europe before they attacked into poland (i was allies to every European country except The Allies)

[mystic nest]

what

is this non historical or what

[late plover]

Got carried by the ai

[late plover]

Historical

[mystic nest]

?? what country

[late plover]

I've Even gotten USA to join the Axis before WW2

[late plover]

Germany

[mystic nest]

why were u waiting for the ussr to attack poland

youre meant to do poland without the ussr

[late plover]

Poland was My ally

I chain couped all European countries to fascism

[mystic nest]

oh

for me the coups take too long

idk when was the last time i used the coup feature

[late plover]

You can kill European countries without UK guranteeing them by couping them first

That's what i use it for now

[mystic nest]

but why bother the uk guaranteeing does nothing

[late plover]

You gotta go to war with The allies

[mystic nest]

yeah

[late plover]

I get Netherlands for free at The beginning of the game in 1936, The rest i coup - then i cause The UK to gurantee Finland so that The Allies and USSR fight each other while i keep couping

[mystic nest]

before mid 41 its just uk and france then they cap

thats it

then you barb or take canada in peace deal and take out america

and then its a win

couping everything one by one takes ages does it not

[late plover]

"You just simply have to beat UK and France"

[mystic nest]

yes mate

[late plover]

I mean, France is easy

[mystic nest]

france is literally programmed to cap

the uk is easy as hell

even if you dont touch the navy just build paras

the british navy gets stomped by a coupl dockyards anyway

[late plover]

Well, whenever i try that it doesn't work and My para's just get encircled and killed

I have successfully done it 1 Time

[mystic nest]

ONCE???

😭

[fair horizon]

more than me btw ozzy

[late plover]

I've taken The entirety of europe and Russia but i still can't go to UK

[fair horizon]

ive never even used paratroopers

[mystic nest]

you just sealion them

that aint count

[mystic nest]

how

the british navy is garbage it just has numbers

[late plover]

Water and stuff...

[opaque zinc]

Probably the same thing for them

[mystic nest]

make like sixty dockyards thats it

[opaque zinc]

Maybe they tried a sealion and it failed

[mystic nest]

anyone can copy templates

[opaque zinc]

And they destroyed their own navy

[late plover]

But then i can't build anything else

[mystic nest]

60 dockyards will not cripple your industry as germany

[opaque zinc]

Just not true

[fair horizon]

quantity is a quality of its own

[opaque zinc]

Call allies into war and get new ones

[mystic nest]

yeah but the ai is terriboe at shiftign its navies around

[late plover]

That's true actually, i don't need a lot of mils for an infantry only army

[mystic nest]

if you wipe out one of the fleets in a sector you can sealion

[mystic nest]

yeah u dont

u need what

inf eq
support eq
anti air
trucks
trains
med flame
armored support vehicles

thats literally everything

[late plover]

I don't even use those

[mystic nest]

what do you use

[late plover]

No tanks

Not even Air bricks

[mystic nest]

not flame tanks??

why

[late plover]

Nope

[mystic nest]

theyre literally the best support company

[opaque zinc]

You’re just nerfing yourself

[late plover]

Everything has to be invested on becoming disgustingly strong in 1 cheap niche

[mystic nest]

why

[late plover]

Optimization

[mystic nest]

bro

if youre not using flame tanks

youre not optimising anything

[late plover]

This thinking has carried over from other games

[mystic nest]

also if you optimised properly you could sealion the uk man

just copy someones template and throw it into production and forget

[late plover]

https://youtu.be/FIlu90qBQ00?is=2z8L_FgrO0SUkAzR

One division of these and The rest Will Be infantry

☝️ 🧠 🔥 ✍️

[mystic nest]

this is terribly outdated

and very very unoptimised

😭

43 width??

motorised aa??

motorised in general??

motorised is literally worse than cav

[late plover]

3000

Soft attack

[mystic nest]

you can get 5 digits

with spgs

[fair compass]

bro, i deny them resource rights and they choose war

[late plover]

Why you gotta blue ball man

[fair compass]

AND HAVE THE AUDACITY of asking for resource rights while being at war with me

[mystic nest]

erm only 102 divs just encircle

!!

[fair compass]

they cant even reach me anyway

[mystic nest]

ive nevr played fascist venezuela

(historical venezuela)

ive never played venezuela

[late plover]

El Salvador is one of the best countries to play in the game

South America is so nice for beginners

[lofty adder]

🦘 🦘 🦘 🦘

[fair horizon]

britian is good at defending the isles though naval supremacy alone because of it

[fair compass]

its hell, cuz im suffering from communist riots every microsecond of me being any other ideology

[lofty adder]

[mystic nest]

yeah but being physically unable to sealion is genuinely confusing

[lofty adder]

😍

[mystic nest]

especially if youre trying to use meta builds

not even meta

half decent ones

[mystic nest]

lmao

[late plover]

3c outside rn and i'm sweating. -100% hot acclimization

(Finnish moment)

[fair horizon]

i agree but theres a lot of people that dont understand how naval works lol

[fair compass]

i can ong surpress them for 2 seconds and be happy and then i suddenly get the cursed "WORKERS STRIKES" event

[fair horizon]

like in even a basic capacity

[mystic nest]

this guy sent his 'master div' and it was a 43 width tank and motorised brick with motorised aa and support arty

its not just navy

[fair compass]

did it instantly fall apart?

[mystic nest]

idk ask the man himself

[fair compass]

idk the man tho

[mystic nest]

france gameplay

no la resistance

[fair compass]

i have it.. but the communists..