hoi4-general

[zealous lynx]

When i do it

[jade ore]

with CAS

[zealous lynx]

Its always slow

[jade ore]

high speed tanks

[zealous lynx]

Another question

How do i design a tank

I research them

[jade ore]

do u have the DLC

[dapper summit]

DLC

[zealous lynx]

Yes

[dapper summit]

Smth about the motherland

[lofty adder]

Ok

Make spg

[zealous lynx]

Do i have to research more stuff

[jade ore]

i mean technically yeah but not really

[patent thistle]

tbf tho what should i do at this point with this game i have quite litterally no incentive to fight the allies or poland

[jade ore]

just look at the stats on the right

[zealous lynx]

I want to play as iran

Since my last 11 runs failed

[jade ore]

i mean play something else then i guess

[zealous lynx]

Just play iran

[jade ore]

or you can use CAS

it wont improve ur breakthrough speed but it will help you break through

[patent thistle]

i aint touching the graveyard of empires nations even if i was payed to do so

[zealous lynx]

Now i see why you are so bored

[ivory hull]

form ah

[zealous lynx]

If you just play as germany

You'll get bored

[jade ore]

hes on hungary

[lofty adder]

What?

[patent thistle]

that would mean me having to deal with germany

[lofty adder]

You nazi?

[zealous lynx]

And if you avoid challenging countries it'd be double boring

[ivory hull]

yep

[lofty adder]

Play communist or democracy germany

[jade ore]

im gonna play fascist russia

[zealous lynx]

Monarchist Germany on the top

[zealous lynx]

Hungary so easy

You can literally double in size with no war

[patent thistle]

i cant even form it because hungary for some reason doesnt get the option dispide not even being the main nation to do austria-hungary anymore

[zealous lynx]

I did it when i didn't know anything about the game

[jade ore]

you do that with germany too

[patent thistle]

nah, the navy shall rule

[lapis snow]

weakest balkan player

[lofty adder]

Ok

Im played for nazi germany lot of times

[ivory hull]

but hungary is still cant take on most majors that way

[jade ore]

see? look how good the ai is, they are pressuring hungary on all fronts and even launched a breakthrough attack and took the capital

holy realistic ai 🔥

[lost dawn]

Hungary is my ally.

💀

[jade ore]

no they arent

[lofty adder]

This is Slovenia or Russia

[jade ore]

thats peru

and byzantine

[patent thistle]

horthy got a skill issue. Gömbös is king

[jade ore]

oh i see

[ivory hull]

göring actually is king

[zealous lynx]

Allat just for bela kun to be better

[lofty adder]

@jade ore do you once played for fasxest usa

Im always loosing in nazi civilwar

[jade ore]

i have played usa like 3 times and no i havent

[hard depot]

Mech

now what

[ivory hull]

grand assault

[hard depot]

Grand Assault?

[patent thistle]

my friend played it once in and MP and i had to save his ass because he got his entire army encircled cause the democrats rose up behind him

[hard depot]

What's so special about grand assault, I just go MTT

[ivory hull]

mtt is ass

grand assault gives the best buffs

[patent thistle]

isnt deep battle also good for mech?

[ivory hull]

iirc rapid domination is that one

[hard depot]

Deep battle

[ivory hull]

nato symbols?

[hard depot]

I got used to WARNO

Do I understand them? Yes I do

ama about nato symbols

[ivory hull]

so either grand assault or rapid domination for mech spam

[wooden agate]

Thing I made

[ivory hull]

i think

[patent thistle]

give mod

now

i see battleship

[wooden agate]

I just made it

Im going to post it on my YT

[hard depot]

Rapid domination just has bonuses for Line Arty

[ivory hull]

no also for mech

like 20% soft

[hard depot]

I mean yeah the SA is there

[ivory hull]

so i usually take grand assault

[hard depot]

What about IN Tactics

[ivory hull]

its just really the best

[ivory hull]

wdym

[hard depot]

nevermind I meant: Armor Subdoctrine

I usually go for Streamlined deployment

[ivory hull]

i take streamlined deployement too

10% soft flat

real nice

[patent thistle]

oh right you are this guy that made the great war redux dev hell video?

[ivory hull]

or the one that gives 20% break

[wooden agate]

yes thats me

[hard depot]

Somehow I melted divisions when I shoved one Superheavy Howi and used Siege Artillery

[patent thistle]

without this video i would have legit never known about it and would have still played the mod unknowingly so thanks

[hard depot]

On infantry divisons btw

[wide osprey]

national spirit idea: laziness

[wooden agate]

No problem!

[wide osprey]

🤭

[lofty adder]

Fire conser

[ivory hull]

ncns adds a good spg doctrine

[hard depot]

Never got it lmao

[lofty adder]

If you playing through artillery

[patent thistle]

should be harsher

[hard depot]

It doesn't give bonuses to my SH Artillery

[ivory hull]

then probably mobile recon

[hard depot]

Just Line and Support arty

[patent thistle]

czechoslovakia was horrible

[lofty adder]

What

[wooden agate]

yeah lol

[hard depot]

Gives bonuses on Armored cars though

No one gives a #### about Armored cars...

[lofty adder]

If France invaded in germany in 1938 we can protect all world against German dictatorship

[wide osprey]

shouldnt it be "DLCs"?

[ivory hull]

the other bonuses are kinda ok tho

[patent thistle]

the country pack they released for czechoslovakia

i wasnt talking about irl man.

[lethal ether]

armored cars are meta

[hard depot]

How are they meta

[lofty adder]

Im think you talking serious

Hoi 4 is game

[hard depot]

They're like Light tanks, but a downgrade 🥀

[lethal ether]

i was joking

i dont think anybody unironically uses them

[hard depot]

i did try to go for Armored car only

let's just say it was hell

[lethal ether]

what country

[wooden agate]

literally unplayable

[lofty adder]

Nazi germany

Www

Ww2

[patent thistle]

legit the only DLCs i view without any issues are no step back, götterdammerung and arms against tyrany, with BBA being required basically only due to the air designer

[hard depot]

The American industry is cooking

[vague abyss]

Hey guys working on a tree for slovakia, if anyone wants any idea's or advisors etc they feel should be added feel free to lmk!

[jade ore]

why 2 production lines you better not be convert cheesing

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok amount of subs to convoy raid japan

[lofty adder]

Once im had for USA 200 mil

[ivory hull]

im pretty sure you dont need 10 on trucks/support equipment

[patent thistle]

subs 🤮

ew

[quasi osprey]

arent they good for just convoy raiding?

[hard depot]

I burned through a shit ton of support equipment last game

[ivory hull]

you dont need much

like 6 max

usually

for me

[wide osprey]

we don't need that much space between focuses bro 🥀

[patent thistle]

yes, and they are annoying as hell. especially in MP when the host didnt ban 1940s subs and up.

[vague abyss]

its a focus layout dw

[quasi osprey]

wdym annoying

[jade ore]

theres clearly gonna be a bigger tree so it needs space

[hard depot]

time to cook

[wide osprey]

uuuh i was joking mates 😔

[patent thistle]

annoying in that sense, "what? wanna move anything through sea and have a limited naval industry so you cant afford purpose build anti sub ships? WELL TOO BAD SUFFER THEN."

[quasi osprey]

so enough against japan?

[hard depot]

I've heard that NCNS now finally has the Escort carriers

(something i've been wanting for this time)

[quasi osprey]

idk I have absolutelly no naval knowledge so if they are enough then ok

[patent thistle]

too bad the DLC is mediocre at best as a whole

the faction mechanics are nice but thats it

[hard depot]

I've had to wait my ass on making deck cruiser conversions

When you could have just made Escort carriers for dirt cheap and decent deckspace

That's what I wanted months before

[vague abyss]

so any recommendations for slovakia?

[patent thistle]

they still havent added battlecarriers so not good enough for me

that is what they could have added given that japan was litterally the only nation using them actively

(or at all)

[hard depot]

Honestly, I prefer carrier airframes than normal airframes

I may sacrifice some IC, but hey it's worth it

I made an all in one CV Nav bomber that can be used for ground and CV at the same time

it's literally a win-win

[wide osprey]

sorry mate, i'm illiterate when it comes to Slovak history 😔

[quasi osprey]

why is it that in all of my runs France likes to show off..😐

[quasi osprey]

maybe reforming great moravia idk

[hard depot]

wtf am I cooking

[ivory hull]

24w ass

18w for holding

36w for attacking

and turn off nato symbols bro

what are the supports

[hard depot]

Flame tank

[ivory hull]

and?

[hard depot]

You can tell its arty by the dot

AA has that triangle and a +

hospital is the cross

first one is the flame and second is assault engi

[ivory hull]

why hospitals?

and armored engineers are better

[lethal ether]

emails

[ivory hull]

w inf brick

[quasi osprey]

bruh I am the USA and how did I already run out of steel

[hard depot]

I've already spent 12 civs on Steel.

[quasi osprey]

I will probably have to do that soon

[hard depot]

Welp I leave no choice, its time to go from Free Trade

To export focus

Its the sacrifice I have to make

[hard depot]

I can literally see no difference between the support arty and SH Artillery

other than IC and....cost

[trim plume]

why did the soviet union do this are they stupid?

[ivory hull]

SH gives bombardment in battle

[hard depot]

Bombardment?

Penalty to their defense or what

[ivory hull]

iirc it does

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[ivory hull]

similar to shore bombardment

[hard depot]

Oh wait

The same shit you get from capital ship support?

[ivory hull]

yea think so

[trim plume]

railway guns are underrated

[hard depot]

So that's why my divisons are melting the orgs of the nazis

[trim plume]

their bombardment actually makes german attacks with a max sudetenland forts 0

[hard depot]

I may have did Siege Artillery subdoctrine and SH Artillery

[ivory hull]

just check the battles next time

[hard depot]

That 24W I did cooked so hard

[wooden agate]

yup

[cedar lance]

hello

[trim plume]

i can see the scary blue

america

in berlin

[hard depot]

My 24W just blitzed through berlin and encircled 1 m men lmao

Siege Arty just wiped them off the map

[trim plume]

is it that SH arty

i forgot about it

if i had SH art + stronghold + SH railway gun the entirety of czechoslovakia with forts surrounding it woulda been permanently saved

[hard depot]

There's literally no terrain penalty on SH Artillery

[ancient fern]

Just wondering, am I allowed to upload game save files to #tech-support ?

[graceful citrus]

guess the year

[hard depot]

1945

45-47

[graceful citrus]

later

[hard depot]

1970

[graceful citrus]

its 48

[snow rain]

still using 1936 guns 💀

[snow rain]

yes

[ancient fern]

Ty, just wanted to make sure before I sent it

[vague abyss]

I was thinking like greater slovakia or something

[quasi osprey]

oh then idk what u could add but greater Moravia could be a decision formable maybe like austro hungary because wasting a whole focus path wouldn't make sense

[quasi osprey]

but greater slovakia also sounds great👍

[vague abyss]

Im thinking maybe make it so krakau and stanislow and tesnisko are needed and buconovia

[quasi osprey]

will it be able to form austro hungary?

[vague abyss]

yeah

[quasi osprey]

ok

[vague abyss]

ill probably add the generic hidden austro hungarian tree in many balkan countries somewhere just in case

it'll also be done so that if you start in 1939 as a german puppet then you will unlock the german part of the tree

this is the tree so far for the fascist path

[lethal ether]

since when does france actually do something on historical? (im only using map mod)

[indigo elk]

Which of these do people think is best for Italy?
Air Safety
-Air Accident Chance: -5%

Ground Support
-Air superiority in-battle effect: +5%

All-weather
-Bad weather penalty: -20%

Air Reformer
-Air XP gain: +10%

[marble igloo]

I didn't hear no bell. (achievement) 🙂 almost there.

Really cool how you can get a huge stability boost for being in a defensive war with these guys... takes a lot to get it online though. Had to reset a few times to survive.

[marble igloo]

all-weather or reformer out of that selection. Reformer let's you get your doctrines early and set up proper planes faster. all-weather is great long term due to the bonus.

[indigo elk]

Usually take that, but went with ground support on this run. I'll swap it out later when I have excess pp

[marble igloo]

the others are okay, but you lose out on full bonus since they are tier 1 of 3.

[lethal ether]

historical somehow

[marble igloo]

well. i made the little entente and basically caused the same thing.

You know with the big japan, china, phillipines, and czech updates. i feel like paradox is finally getting the national focus trees a lot better.

goe was like a testing ground that had bugs, it worked for some(india), but not others(iraq/iran), with afghanistan being an odd middle ground. While i feel like the newer updates are a lot more fleshed out.

maybe in a year or two romania and some others will get updated too

I am loving the czech update

the focus tree has so much to it, tons of options and ways to play them now

and they get a ton of good buffs

[trim plume]

the JAPANESE still hasn't wp china

[marble igloo]

i've practically wiped out the entire luftwaffe and italian airforce.

[trim plume]

eternal deathwar fo NO reason

[marble igloo]

how the hell has china not pushed them out

ah

mongolian supply issue

they have too many divisions and are max attrition preventing them from pushing any further

if you intervene in some way, like gaining military access, build them roads up to mongolia, max level to any supply hubs

[trim plume]

like im gonna let these guys not suffer endless manpower

death

its not even a supply problem they js dont wanna attack

[marble igloo]

oh wow. that's odd

what country are you playing as?

[copper sluice]

I had one of the most painful games yesterday as Iraq

[trim plume]

big czech

[marble igloo]

send volunteers and just wipe out japan yourself lol

[trim plume]

china and japan being stuck in endless conflict is good

[marble igloo]

okay then

[trim plume]

although idk why japan isn't spamming naval plans

and targetting this specific port

instead of switching targets

[marble igloo]

Is there anyone else japan is at war with?

oh hey bulgaria finally join in on my war

[trim plume]

js china

they aren't declaring war on anyone anytime zoon

soon

[marble igloo]

okay

non-historical?

hm, think they might ever add a way to promote air officers/something to give you new chief airforce options like they allow with army and naval officers?

[quasi osprey]

why arent the japanese invading me😭

[tender comet]

43

[zealous lynx]

Is this a good div for attack

Also im using large unit tactics

[tender comet]

Usually I manage to proclaim a new order already in 1942-43

[indigo elk]

Throw in 4 more INF.

[zealous lynx]

Ok

[marble igloo]

well poland died in my game, i mean they did get wombo comboed by the soviets and germans

[zealous lynx]

I was kinda scared to throw it in due to production costs

Since i as playing Iran

[winged field]

can you make flame tanks?

[zealous lynx]

No

[trim plume]

if that dont work

[winged field]

You could replace logistics with flame tank support company

[trim plume]

add more infantry

[winged field]

oh

[zealous lynx]

I have a questio

How do i design a tank

[winged field]

do you have nsb?

[zealous lynx]

Im pretty sure i have all DLC's

Lemme check

[winged field]

then why u say u cant?

like you cant make them cuz u dunno how to design them?

[trim plume]

how do i scroll DOWN to get the flametank company 😭 i can't reach it

[winged field]

did you put flamethrower in?

[trim plume]

right there

[zealous lynx]

I just wanna know how to make basic tanks

[winged field]

try to unclick it

[mellow jetty]

It bugs out for me sometimes too

[shy geyser]

any tip to invade ussr as germany starting on 1939?

[winged field]

the spg template is in ask for help pins

[trim plume]

i guess i AINT adding flame tanks any time soon 🤞

[shy geyser]

country?

[zealous lynx]

Whats the whole DLC called

[winged field]

try putting aa gun change the role to spaa and then add flamethrower

then try to scroll to flame tank

[winged field]

No step back

[trim plume]

thats not

its not working

[zealous lynx]

I do

[grave sonnet]

Best DLC oat

[trim plume]

guys is this a cost efficient template 🤞

[winged field]

click on that circle icon next to the design in production menu

[trim plume]

number go up

[zealous lynx]

Wait

1 sec

[zealous lynx]

How is this possible br

[trim plume]

medium tank

[graceful citrus]

Ai Germany

[trim plume]

tank (in the NSB dlc)

[graceful citrus]

Medium tank best tank frfr

[trim plume]

light BUM

bro

heavy is to FAT

and UGLY

[graceful citrus]

Medium is js peak

[graceful citrus]

How do you make sp artillery in the dlc (i got it the day before yesterday)

[trim plume]

french js asked to buy a bunch of arty

its over for their production lines

click button near the "medium tank"

shows you categories which boosts certain stats

[grave sonnet]

Tanks can get good like really good

If you do em right

[trim plume]

soft attack goes up

if arty

then theirs TD which is hard tack

[grave sonnet]

In SP soft atrack means death for the AI so keep it

[trim plume]

yeah ik

im js showing it to him

im not STUPID

like the AI in paradox

[grave sonnet]

Oooh mb gang

Mb mb

[trim plume]

a filipino gamer always finds a way to get angry

regardless

[graceful citrus]

Ohh ty

[zealous lynx]

Nvm bro

[trim plume]

also you need like the same guns like this

see that explosion icon

[graceful citrus]

Ohhh

[trim plume]

thats related to the category

if you don't have it

you aint getting it

[graceful citrus]

How do you get the different guns aswell?

[trim plume]

rembseearch

if you want good tanks js get priority on the arty

tab

[graceful citrus]

Oo

[trim plume]

don't mind the custom icons im using a mod to try and extend the research tree

so that i suffer even further

from a buffed soviet union

but its still the same

[graceful citrus]

Alr

Ty

[trim plume]

you wanna get something for the airforce

or did you understand it

[graceful citrus]

No i understand

[trim plume]

yeah makes sense

the easiest thing to understand is like

airforce

its js number go up no meta divisions or anything

[zinc briar]

folk

[trim plume]

folk

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[fresh mural]

I have not played hoi4 in like five months, I have forgotten everything, what should i watch to make me great again?

[lost dawn]

Slowly making it bigger again.

[tidal thistle]

I am playing soviet against my german friend, what is the best possible template?(We have no rules)

[copper sluice]

if I play iraq will abd al ilah still show up while I am fascist

[hasty linden]

anyone wanna join a tno nrp ?

[graceful citrus]

okay poland

[fair compass]

who is you

[errant bridge]

if there's someone balkan that want to play dm me

[graceful citrus]

big number good number

[misty fossil]

John roblox

[graceful citrus]

WHAT

[misty fossil]

Yes

[fallen garnet]

do the russians ever give up?

[weary lagoon]

bros are attacked by the entire Avengers

[fair compass]

have you even gotten a single city?

[wide osprey]

psychopath

[graceful citrus]

ouch

[fallen garnet]

nah mate Im playing sweden

[fair compass]

they do surrender

if you get to like

the urals or smth

like

the entire line

is

[fallen garnet]

I just want them to give me the peace deal tbh xD

[fair compass]

up to like, up this mountain range over here

is when they surrender i think

near the giant S

damn a guy with all DLCs

wish i had them all

[winged field]

Luxemburg

[acoustic wasp]

I only ever played Germany, fascist and socialist, fascist italy, Stalin USSR, Fascist and non aligned Finland

[fallen garnet]

yeah Im just at war with them because of Finnland, I dont know if they sign white peace tho

[sudden thistle]

Shandong Clique

[acoustic wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[fair compass]

wdym like did you

intervene into the winter war?

[acoustic wasp]

I suffered so bad as soviet china im not in the mood for sufferage i need some playroom without sweating rn

[fallen garnet]

no I made finnland my puppet

[sudden thistle]

Sinkiang is unironically fun

[fair compass]

who declared war on who tho

[fallen garnet]

the soviets declared war on my puppet and me

[fair compass]

so the winter war.

yeah uh

[fallen garnet]

yeah

[fair compass]

take saint petersburg and it'll automatically end the war

orr

[acoustic wasp]

What if i played communist Japan

[fair compass]

you can let them take helinski and it'll end the war

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[fair compass]

with less land

for your uppet

[proud valley]

Had to give the borrowed gpu back to my friend. Now no gpu so no hoi4

[acoustic wasp]

My laptop charger died and i had to suffer from HOI4 withdrawal effects for 5 days until a new one came

was not pleasant

[sudden thistle]

Sure

[acoustic wasp]

I never played historical japan but i guess why not, time to spread the revolution

https://tenor.com/view/comunisto-dogo-gif-15433861177915232836

Let's hope it's not a bad civil war like communist italy

[sudden thistle]

Just don’t mess up the February 28th event

[acoustic wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[sudden thistle]

It’s a 3 way civil war

It’s not that bad dw

[lethal ether]

does rt56 change anything about cas

[sudden thistle]

The communist civil war before the Japan dlc was horrible

[acoustic wasp]

Italian one is so booty icl i spent 2 years

idk if i was doing something wrong

[sudden thistle]

Genuinely not winnable

[acoustic wasp]

i took the north and tried to push as hard but i just couldnt breakthrough

and you cant encircle anyone

italy is smol

[acoustic wasp]

well lets see

imma play commie japan

and defeat the fake commie stalin

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-LotRSXcAAnArr.gif

must feel good having a comptenet navy off the bat

[fair compass]

me when i accidedntly click on the 1939 start date

[acoustic wasp]

16 mils YUCK

[lethal ether]

yeah and you play the ussr

or china

[acoustic wasp]

good infrastructure tho

[fair compass]

i never play any of those nations

i ong play either germany, or the minor nations

and try to defend agasint germany

[lethal ether]

1939 ussr is bad because your airforce is obsolete and you cant push

you can hold pretty good but u cant push

i saw some guy talk about it here and it just seems so interesting to try to save countries in the 1939 start date that paradox forgot about

[safe wing]

Are you serious?

I won in a few months on my first attempt

[acoustic wasp]

Yeah maybe i did something wrong with the focuses or decisions, i always got like a quarter of the army

and no navy

tried it 3 times and gave up

[safe wing]

Should have done the cooperation focus and army ones too

Gives more divs

[acoustic wasp]

I'll try after communist japan lemme see

[fair compass]

imo the artist who drew the austrian portraits makes the portrait kinda realistic if you ask me-

[acoustic wasp]

i cant do political focuses before february

hmm

industry it is then

yo japan actually got decent default templates

das crazy there is potential of having a blast here

[lethal ether]

i disagree

[buoyant zealot]

Guys

How do I delete countries off the map completely?

[lethal ether]

annex them

[buoyant zealot]

I don't need to have their land

[safe wing]

You annex and core them ?

[buoyant zealot]

that'd just ruin the game more than its already ruined

[proud valley]

Am unemployed

[acoustic wasp]

the 24 width infantry one is good, they also a division set on lowest equipment priority that can be used as port guards

[buoyant zealot]

I need to remove irrelevant countries for performance

[acoustic wasp]

puppet?

[acoustic wasp]

oh

[buoyant zealot]

brother

[acoustic wasp]

wait

[lethal ether]

theres mod for that

[safe wing]

Just download a mod or something that does that

[buoyant zealot]

im playing novum vexillum

not native

[lethal ether]

poo poo

[buoyant zealot]

I need to remove the countries myself because im playing a mod

I dont think I can find a mod that does that in novum vexillum

[acoustic wasp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ju92ZEjOU&t=473s

[buoyant zealot]

And even if I found one, I want to remove them myself

[acoustic wasp]

he has a couple of vids about it

[acoustic wasp]

L take frrfrfr

[sudden thistle]

The sino Japanese war is definitely one of the best wars to do

As in fun

[acoustic wasp]

i mean this alone looks so good rn

Germany and USSR playthroughs had the most ass navies ever

[sudden thistle]

That’s normal…

[acoustic wasp]

i was struggling navy wise for long i'll enjoy this one rn

[acoustic wasp]

what do i take for commie japan rn? reign them in?

[sudden thistle]

Read the event

[acoustic wasp]

yeah i read it, the last one i think leads to the far left focus that lets me become commie

[buoyant zealot]

okay ty but the thing is i need to be able to delete countries off the map myself because I'm playing a modern day mod called novum vexillum and theres massive amount of countries you know

[sudden thistle]

Then click it

[acoustic wasp]

oh well i dont think you can do it, new mods like that which is based on millennium dawn which runs like absolute shit tend to be very slow

[acoustic wasp]

got a socialist pm lets see how it plays out

[buoyant zealot]

yes i think its because the amount of nations

the game lags mostly because of divisions

the more nations u have the more divisions will appear with time

honestly im not completly sure about that

about the more nations u have more divisions

[acoustic wasp]

you could try to use a division limiter mod, not sure if it would work with novum though

[knotty vortex]

anybody got space marine designs and tank designs for it?

need something effective for sp

[willow gull]

is their any focus tree paths that are broken in multiplayer

i’ve never played multiplayer before i’m jw

[winged field]

just stack armor on it, you dont have to change anything else,, maybe torsion bar if the reliability is under 70

[knotty vortex]

medium spaa?

[winged field]

works

only bad thing about is that you will need other resources than steel for upgraded AA's

so having support aa too would be good if you dont build planes

[peak gull]

someone can help me i'm too bad and i need to be better to help my friends

[knotty vortex]

what would be better

[willow gull]

what are you bad at

[undone vale]

holy map mod, now THIS looks good

[willow gull]

🔥🔥 what mod?

[winged field]

it's fine, you could go with single spg but honestly you want to make them cheap at start to equip your whole army with it

[undone vale]

magna europa alpha + lenes map

[winged field]

Just have spaa and aa too if possible

[peak gull]

army and division

[willow gull]

post your army templates

[peak gull]

wait

[peak gull]

and i don't know how to do an good division 😩

[wide osprey]

is magna europa moved to the new version ❓

[undone vale]

yeah

the alpha build is always up to date

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-shocked-ariana-grande-ariana-wicked-gif-9352977018792188008

[willow gull]

no

[wide osprey]

imma check

[willow gull]

the army itself

where you design it

[undone vale]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3586596093&searchtext=magna+europa

[peak gull]

i try to do it myself

[peak gull]

because i have no friends who play HOI4

[willow gull]

this thing

[peak gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-cat-thumbs-up-meme-gif-5676038700371371386

i will try

[willow gull]

show me what you are using

[peak gull]

like ?

[willow gull]

your army template

[peak gull]

okay

[willow gull]

show me what it looks like

the one you usually make

[wide osprey]

my only wish for hoi5
is that updates do not brake mods every single time 😭

yoooo this shi is fire

[peak gull]

I kept the same divisions because I didn’t know what to do, but for the army, what am I actually supposed to do?

[willow gull]

who aye you playing as

are *

[peak gull]

italy

[willow gull]

it’s not bad

add an extra infantry guy & anti air

support anti air

[peak gull]

okay

[willow gull]

are you designing templates at all in your games?

[peak gull]

like that ?

[peak gull]

i try but it was worst

[willow gull]

no only support (left side)

[stark elbow]

no only support antiair

[willow gull]

this is a major reason why you aren’t winning games

[zealous lynx]

Hey is this one good attack

Also i use big unit tactics

[peak gull]

umm okay

[winged field]

not enough breakthrough

[willow gull]

for who

[stark elbow]

i'm no expert but looking at the soft attack, i'd say that it would break through something

[zealous lynx]

I was Iran

But is it good

[winged field]

your soft attack is also kinda meh but thats bcs of large unit tactics

[willow gull]

you cannot afford that as iran😭

[winged field]

not saying its a bad doctrine

[zealous lynx]

My production lines js superior

[stark elbow]

wait for america 2026 then

[zealous lynx]

Can you recommend me a good doctrine

[willow gull]

inshallah you will produce efficiently

[winged field]

assault inf 90% of time

[zealous lynx]

Okay

[willow gull]

grand battle plan

[winged field]

grand assault for 4th subdoctrine always

[willow gull]

^

[zealous lynx]

But guys

I have an issue

When i try to do mountain template

[peak gull]

and now ?

[zealous lynx]

I can only do like 1 line of mountain inf

[stark elbow]

iran is as plain as mongolia u wont need montain divs dw

[willow gull]

you don’t have the special forces capacity

[willow gull]

no

[zealous lynx]

How to increase

[willow gull]

doctrines, advisors & more men in the field

[willow gull]

too much equipment

[peak gull]

i'm bad too in doctrub :/

[willow gull]

i can spectate your games & help you

[peak gull]

what should i delete

[zealous lynx]

Towed arty not needed

[peak gull]

oh shit.

[zealous lynx]

Idk

But most people say towed arty is bad

As a combat unit

[peak gull]

i lose the game...

[winged field]

its shit but it will work in singleplayer cuz enemy ai is bums

[zealous lynx]

Meh i jst go with more inf

And just spam support companies

[winged field]

thats a better idea for sure

[peak gull]

i need to do something i comback in 10 minute

[zealous lynx]

I use arty, aa, logistics, engineer, field hospital and thats it

[willow gull]

are you available in 6 hours

[zealous lynx]

Should i add more inf

[winged field]

35,4 ish something with large unit tactics

[zealous lynx]

Im using it so

I heard 30-36 is the sweet spot for attack units

[winged field]

ye

[lost dawn]

Only a war with the Allies to go

and I will hold all my cores

[ivory hull]

make it 36w and add flame tanks and light tank recon

[zealous lynx]

How do i design a tank

[zealous lynx]

Is Iran recommended

[ivory hull]

wdym

[knotty vortex]

35% WARSCORE

BRO

HOW

IS THAT

35%

I HAVE LITERALLY DONE IT ALL

[acoustic wasp]

the italian civil war is genuinely unwinnable

pls fix your game

ffs

i hate to cheese the game but you've forced my hand

[willow gull]

• ale 5000

[knotty vortex]

THIS GENUINELY CANNOT BE REAL

WHAT DID THE UK EVEN DO HERE

[zealous lynx]

Is mass assault good

[knotty vortex]

thats all i got.

[willow gull]

grand battle plan is better

[knotty vortex]

i think this was pretty good

[lethal ether]

germany got reduced to prussia

[lofty adder]

Hi, is this real?

This is selling in Russia?

[knotty vortex]

yeah because for some reason i got no warscore bro

[knotty vortex]

but look at this during the war

[buoyant zealot]

Guys

[peak gull]

okay

[lofty adder]

Hi is this original or not

From china szeinzhen

[wide osprey]

i don't think this is official

[lofty adder]

Why

Official only in USA?

China is good country 👍

[peak gull]

how my army should look like ?

[wide osprey]

official means it has relation to the company and it was approved by this company

or something like this

only official plushie seller is

makeship

[willow gull]

what do you mean

[peak gull]

how many tank, horse or motorisation ?

[willow gull]

@ivory hull can you help him with motorized templates as italy

[ivory hull]

no motorized divs ever

either tanks or special forces

[acoustic wasp]

pls work, pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls pls

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-gif-1901237102102427154

[reef lotus]

wrong universe guys

[acoustic wasp]

WE GOT EMMMMMMMMMM

WE GOT EMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-devious-rubbing-hands-evil-suspicious-gif-26037341

[peak gull]

like wish special ?

force

[zealous lynx]

Ts a good template

[ivory hull]

too big no

[zealous lynx]

Oh mb i didn't notice 40 width

[sudden thistle]

Aren’t u the one who said u made the new meta

[zealous lynx]

Joke

[ivory hull]

use this

[zealous lynx]

Im playing Iran bro

[ivory hull]

just get engineers and support arty and flame tanks, ignore the other support companies ig

[acoustic wasp]

remove 2 tanks, add logi, make sure your medium tanks have their main cannon as a howitzer, add armoured recon and if possible also armoured assault engineers instead of just engineers, if possible you also need medium flame tanks

[sudden thistle]

SP SH howitzer yet no SH howitzer?

[ivory hull]

bro i have to keep the 5.6kmh

very important

[sudden thistle]

Truth

[acoustic wasp]

civil war done in 60 days caught mussolini with his pants down

[ivory hull]

and can you even use both?

[stark elbow]

is this like egypt full reasearch

[acoustic wasp]

1 in a million chance

[sudden thistle]

I’m pretty sure

It would make sense

[ivory hull]

napoleonic france in kx

[acoustic wasp]

As an Egyptian I approve of this template

[ivory hull]

i lwk cant, may be just kx tho

[sudden thistle]

Hm

[stark elbow]

aura

[acoustic wasp]

It is done in record time

[stark elbow]

tno after nuclear war pt2

[acoustic wasp]

I usually struggle so bad but i noticed on one tile he had 2 militia units and was trying so hard to push me back north, coincedintally i had 2 mountaineers on the opposite tile that i just rushed around and capped the port like a mad man and it actually worked

i couldn't believe it

i actually get to enjoy a game of communist italy before 1940

tears in my eyes

[stark elbow]

cw italy is not one of my favorites tbh, my favorite civilwar tree is the monarchist russian one, i like the part of preparation, and the fact that after it i can release ukraine and belarus as buffer states.

[acoustic wasp]

Never tried russian monarchy icl, i do want to try the trotsky line

the 2 nations i dont think i can have fun playing are the UK and US

like the only reason i'd play US and think i might have fun would be if they make nukes a little better

i can rush them

[stark elbow]

fascist US has potential but only after 4 years of political simulator

[acoustic wasp]

yeah

[stark elbow]

idk about the leftist tree, i feel like it just weakens the nation in a really negative way for the upcoming patriottic war (if in historical)

[zealous lynx]

Okay

[acoustic wasp]

yeah thats why im a little reluctant to do it but i will one day

[stark elbow]

my next run will probably be russian cw again just bc i got destroyed in the last match, the painter did come through estonia and latvia

third rome has kinda good buffs

[acoustic wasp]

so you can play around with variants of that but 2 and a half lines of tanks, 2 lines of motorised and these roughly these companies should do the trick, you can do 2 lines of tanks and 2 and a half of motorised / mechanised or even leg infantry and optimise your tanks to be armoured and reliable, neglect speed they will go 4kmh anyways so yeah

[jovial kite]

man i love having to compile shaders every update paradox

on vicky 3

[stark elbow]

what is v3 about?

[jovial kite]

the vicotrian age

[stark elbow]

thats understandable

[acoustic wasp]

I mean so far i didnt have much fun with the soviet union, im not the pro player nerd who can juggle tech in record time, i mean if i try to focus on a good armoured build i cant maintain air superiority and it goes to shit, if you try to build air superiority and neglect the armour well, it's just a

here mustache man, 20 million men entrenched, please keep throwing your men at me until you run out of men and i can just walk into berlin uncontested with my 948 division of 18 width infantry with just engineers

it all just boils down to uhhh problem on the eastern front? uhhh throw more bodies

oh they're dead?

more

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[stark elbow]

stalin mentality

[acoustic wasp]

then you scroll on tiktok until they have around 7-8 million dead

and you can just

walk into berlin

not fun

whose grandma is this btw she's a good general

she's the one who encircled the fascists and won the war

[stark elbow]

thats true, but why should i loose mp when they can loose mp?

(i'll never stop flexing ts image)

[acoustic wasp]

i had one in single player where 15m germans were killed but nowhere near your hilarious soviet casualty numbers

[willow gull]

how

what templates

[acoustic wasp]

jus throw men

[stark elbow]

will never believe me, 7/2

[acoustic wasp]

probably 18 width with engineers and anti air or something

and spam it

[willow gull]

wtf

[stark elbow]

defensive line with max forts behind dnepr and latvian river.
(no air superiority/air support/anti air)

[lethal ether]

fortified rivers?

yeah

[stark elbow]

yup

[lethal ether]

aa would have made it so much better

[stark elbow]

well i guess thats true, after all with so little losses i wouldn't have needed a huge industry to supply my divisions

[lethal ether]

you can definitely have so much more by 1941

what were all ur factories on if u didnt have planes?

[stark elbow]

one bad thing about this strategy, is that once you want to attack, you get the river debuffs too, and furthermore, at one point germany will stop attacking and stall it.

[stark elbow]

eh... infantry equipment

[lethal ether]

i disagree, if you hold kiev and the other supply hub i forgot what its called you have some attacking points

[acoustic wasp]

France might be turning communist? 3 years till the election lol this actually might be fun

[lethal ether]

if you have air superiority or aa they can basically do nothing

pretty sure u can hold at the polish border

u dont even need rivers

also with tanks they crumble anyways

they stand 0 chance

[stark elbow]

didnt try that out, in my case, to try to push after seeing that their divisions were half strenght/weak enough i removed my divisions from the front and made them retreat, then push in plain territory.

[stark elbow]

i tried out w tanks but i cant make enough

medium spg

[lethal ether]

its litteraly a map painting game since theyve got like 0 supply

rivers do not hold u back at all im pretty sure

[lethal ether]

i think i usually have half an army of mediums by the time the war starts

[stark elbow]

but how, how much does ur design usually cost?

[lethal ether]

ill check

im not using nostepback though

[stark elbow]

ah i'm

[lethal ether]

u can still do that

i usually build civs until 39 and then switch to mils and put all the newly built ones on mediums

[lethal ether]

like 8k

[stark elbow]

8k?

[lethal ether]

idk if these images are from the same battle but i thought its interesting lol

[lethal ether]

industrial capacity

[stark elbow]

those are the losses of a single batle?

[uncut pollen]

Only hoi 4 pictures please

[lethal ether]

encirclement yeah

[acoustic wasp]

wdym

the portraits?

[uncut pollen]

Yes

[acoustic wasp]

my bad ok

[stark elbow]

sorry if i ask, but why should a rappresentation be ok and a real image not?

[uncut pollen]

You already answered it in the question

The real image isnt in the game

If you have any issue with the moderation contact chak

[pearl raptor]

bro why allies Ai is just stupid ahh as Czech im defending for 2 years and England just setting there?

[stark elbow]

yeah i know i know, but atp would even other screenshots of mods be considered not right for this channel? im not really trying to piss off just a general curiosity for the future

[lethal ether]

theyre fighting in africa

right?

[stark elbow]

btw i'have read the rules again rn, i'll keep the questions to myself ig dw to answer

[pearl raptor]

for now yes , but for 2 years while just agains Germany and they not atttacking

[lethal ether]

well the ai is just like that

also if theyre fighting in africa im pretty sure they will not naval invade

[fair compass]

Ohh.. no..

[pearl raptor]

and we cant counter attack germant as Czech

becouse of this Ai

[lost dawn]

Pretty much just the Roman Empire now.

Not really Byzantine

[stark elbow]

kinda sure some east roman leader back then managed to reach out to italy again

[lost dawn]

This is pretty much the empire as Justinian left it.

[stark elbow]

yeah right justinian!

[lost dawn]

I'd say that is more than just the Eastern Roman Empire

[ivory hull]

yea just southern spain is missing

[lethal ether]

what happened in russia

[lost dawn]

And Gaul

[stark elbow]

holy border gore

[lost dawn]

I dissected Russia

[ivory hull]

justinian didnt have that gng

[stark elbow]

valid reason to become revanchist

[lost dawn]

Well yes but if it was to be the entire Roman empire

[lethal ether]

yeah i figured that out

[lost dawn]

Then I would need Gaul

[ivory hull]

yea and half of germany

[lost dawn]

I killed Russia 3 times

but did not get most of the war score

[lethal ether]

free states of europe aint even in europe 🙏

[lost dawn]

Except for Poland

[lethal ether]

poland isbnt a real country

[lost dawn]

[lethal ether]

poland france and italy are impostors among us

they do not exist

the earth is round but it has holes like a bowling ball where italy poland and france are

[fair compass]

bro, HOW MANY TROOPS DO YOU NEED ITS JSUT 11 CZECHS

its early game to..

its only 1938..

yeah im in pain

[mild plaza]

11 poorly supplied czechs too

[stark elbow]

they are frightened

[gaunt hearth]

whats going on

[clear turtle]

hello?

[gaunt hearth]

servers going down

what in the aternos

[clear turtle]

Did the server shut down?

[uncut pollen]

Maybe

[thorn pendant]

.

[clear turtle]

Literally no one is on any of the vc's

[languid stone]

welcome back hoi4 discord

[obsidian sigil]

What happening ong

[jade ore]

discord just went down its fine 💀

[midnight galleon]

🤦

[delicate flax]

its not "fine" some of us have lost people

[jade ore]

brotato what

[slow token]

i missed the hoi4 discord

[gaunt hearth]

hoi4 down moment

[willow gull]

what happened

[lofty adder]

Hi

Im think im banned for trolling german

Dont ban me please

[gaunt hearth]

discord actin up

[steel zephyr]

lovely

[lofty adder]

Hi

Make template

Against resistace

[slow token]

u da real resistance

[lofty adder]

Maximum cavaleries and 1 millitary police

[steel zephyr]

ye already have

[lofty adder]

What

[jade ore]

wait its kinda cool how the german ai naval invaded norway, swept through every other bit of territory and left oslo last as if the troops are doing a last stand

[lofty adder]

Ok

[acoustic wasp]

chat do 7/2 templates still work for pushing AI early game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[jade ore]

probably why not just 9/1

[lofty adder]

Yes

Good division

[gaunt hearth]

helooo

[lofty adder]

Im tried 9/1 and 9/2

[gaunt hearth]

goodbye now

[acoustic wasp]

i meaaaaaaaaaaaan idk, i do have fire concentration subdoc

might work

im building up my tanks but as communist italy rn

[jade ore]

its the ai so its whatever anyway

[acoustic wasp]

tried saving spain with 7/2s, 8 of them, found out i was pushing towards portugal but the spainyards where too incompetent and the divisions weren't advancing as much as i'd like them to, they just lacked that tooth

[jade ore]

wel i mean yea 8 divisons is cooked

oh wait

expeditionary

rip u probably wanted mountaineers then

[acoustic wasp]

they all died in the civil war

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmnotbad-hmm-letmethink-imthinking-thinking-gif-5567970

i mean the 7/2 one looks good on paper, i didnt try the 9/1s yet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[marble igloo]

finished the hardest of the new czech achievements. I didn't hear no bell. Plus got the trans-siberian one too while i was at it.
ignore the messy borders, uk and france didn't want to let me get rid of germany.

[iron plume]

Turns out the great german proletarian navy wasn't so great after all

[buoyant zealot]

Removed most irrelevant nations to me in novum vexillum using powershell

And they're truly a massive amount of tags

106 tags removed

imagine the amount of lag they will cause to my potato pc

I run a script that checks every file in history/states (of novum vexillum) for a specified tag that owns that state then it takes that file to my submod

Then I run another script in my submod that removes the line that specifies which tag owns that state and removes any cores

[steel zephyr]

might so something stupid like invade the comintern

two more armies qued up though

[lost dawn]

Not much progress

sadly

[ivory hull]

where is all your manpower?

why no sealion

[steel zephyr]

israel

[steel zephyr]

not at war with britain

[ivory hull]

then where is your manpower gng

[steel zephyr]

israel

[ivory hull]

and what is your tank design

[steel zephyr]

gatekeeping because my entire army is shoddy infantry with flame tanks for armour and breakthrough

shoddy but low causalty

[buoyant zealot]

is that even possible???

[ivory hull]

so your using inf bricks?

[lost dawn]

?

[steel zephyr]

i dont speak in such terms boy

[ivory hull]

is it 36w inf?

[buoyant zealot]

are you playing vanilla or mod?

[steel zephyr]

no its crap 21w

[lost dawn]

Vanilla Ironman

[buoyant zealot]

Holy

[ivory hull]

and heavy flame tanks too, this is trash my boy

[steel zephyr]

❤️

[ivory hull]

a brick wouldve been better

[lost dawn]

Cyprus will finally be mine!

MINE

[ivory hull]

line arty is crazy gng

[steel zephyr]

anything to get to 21w 🌹

[ivory hull]

why?

line arty is horrible

[steel zephyr]

israel

will actually make a not shoddy template sometime before i invade comintern

[buoyant zealot]

Nobody praised me for my work 💔

[ivory hull]

use a 36w inf division

with medium flame tanks

[steel zephyr]

alr

also can now do medium flame tanks since tech

[lofty adder]

bro

im advice

please

[lost dawn]

?

[lofty adder]

protect sea borders

when once im played for bysantia

[ivory hull]

you start with inter war bro lol

[lofty adder]

italy sea land in turkey with 70 divisions

[lost dawn]

I have about 270 garrison divisions

[lofty adder]

im kill them after 1 year

[lost dawn]

and I control all of the med

[steel zephyr]

yea I mean ones better than heavy chuds

I usually use this template