hoi4-general

[upbeat tundra]

is crazy

[severe monolith]

I rarely use fieldhospital ngl

[upbeat tundra]

its still better then MP imo

[woeful knoll]

By 1942 guns all u need is infantry bricks

u dont even need tank

[severe monolith]

Only ever used Mp's for garrisoning

[misty fossil]

field hospital is crazy good

[stiff heart]

"I didn't hear no bell!"

[upbeat tundra]

this is my breakthrough div

[misty fossil]

make it 32 or 36w

depending on where you fight

[upbeat tundra]

ive always kept it under 30w

[misty fossil]

i mean ur just missing out on extra breakthrough

[upbeat tundra]

fair enough

[misty fossil]

could also use heavy tanks if ur ger or japan

[severe monolith]

I usually make my tank divs 34w.. although i dont think i've ever really focused on tank divisions

but they shredded against the french and belgians

[severe monolith]

and the soviets

[misty fossil]

like -2% excess cw is a drop in a bucket

compared to like +10% stats gain

[upbeat tundra]

better?

[misty fossil]

heavy spg as well

[upbeat tundra]

oh right

[misty fossil]

breakthrough is a bit low for 7 heavy tanks i think

do you have nsb

[upbeat tundra]

im poor

[misty fossil]

and i would also use amtrac instead of mech

[upbeat tundra]

rly?

[misty fossil]

in case i need it for naval invasions

its sp you can do whatever

[upbeat tundra]

my friends have always recommended i use mech

[upbeat tundra]

ai will eventually fold

[misty fossil]

thats because you dont need to spend 300 extras days to research amtracs ahead of time

i mean amtrac

[upbeat tundra]

the best breakthrough div in china is the classic 9/0

[misty fossil]

lol

[upbeat tundra]

(i dont wanna build 50 supply hubs and 1000 railways)

[upbeat tundra]

Roc folds faster then a wet noodle though

if ur playing communist china

all they do is lose 400k men to u and a ton of eq letting u push

[misty fossil]

last game i used something like this.... also can you check if spgs take 3 cw or 2?

@upbeat tundra

not sure why uttnh increased spg cw to 3

[upbeat tundra]

i think it was 2

[misty fossil]

weird

[upbeat tundra]

not on hoi4 rn

[misty fossil]

ill ask them in their discord

[upbeat tundra]

weirder

[misty fossil]

lol

[twin nebula]

getting hit by a 11kg elphaba high note on a random wednesday afternoon is a crazy way to go out 😭

[ancient marsh]

did they fix it bro

before that it said i needed more transports*

[misty fossil]

i think you need 70% air superiority in the alpine region

[warped skiff]

Noob air question: If I want to supply these 3 battles but I have the transports assigned to a zone that the battle is not in (but adjacent) do they still get supps?

[ancient marsh]

nevermind it was just being finnicky as paratroopers be

[ancient marsh]

no

they have to be assigned to the zone the units are in

[warped skiff]

awesome, trhanks

[ancient marsh]

range circles are just like a visual thing so you know what zones you can put them in

[winter fulcrum]

why am i lowk the goat?

[upbeat tundra]

we got bigger balls to scratch bro

[tulip thorn]

Weak italy for 1940

[winter fulcrum]

speaking just to speak

[misty fossil]

minor concern

[upbeat tundra]

idk why but i have a feeling this might be not a regular italy game

britan's union of facists never allies with germany

[misty fossil]

i think its a puppet

[upbeat tundra]

also

[winter fulcrum]

its a puppet

[winter fulcrum]

mhm

[wise pelican]

any of yall played siankiang before

[upbeat tundra]

mp or what

[misty fossil]

yeah i played it to get kumul khanate

[winter fulcrum]

sp

[upbeat tundra]

form turan as sinkang i dare u

[misty fossil]

whats turan

[upbeat tundra]

how did germany push through the maginot then?

[misty fossil]

i got the uh

mongol empire thing

[winter fulcrum]

they didnt i just gave them some land bc i felt bad for being the goat

[misty fossil]

if that counts

[upbeat tundra]

idk this map seems a bit altered

[wise pelican]

stupid question but after u conquer Kohan tu, what country do you conquer after

[misty fossil]

ur mom

jk

[upbeat tundra]

no sudetenland?

[upbeat tundra]

ur forgetting the like 5 more cliques and other stuff

[winter fulcrum]

broski does not want the smoke

[winter fulcrum]

they denied it

[wise pelican]

wdym

[winter fulcrum]

wdym a bit altered?

[upbeat tundra]

first off

that is a very low ammount of divs

[winter fulcrum]

ik

do you want me to prove its real or what?

[upbeat tundra]

not really cause thats not rly a powerfull italy

[winter fulcrum]

im not gonna be in 50 wars

[drowsy mirage]

all my dlcs ranout

im depressed

[winter fulcrum]

im just building up supply so i can take over the soviets since germany is bad, and then im gonna invade germany

[upbeat tundra]

you have no fuel

[upbeat tundra]

well ur gunna need more

[winter fulcrum]

not rlly

once i beat turkey and spain i win and canada i can form the roman empire

[upbeat tundra]

unitary canada should be allied with the axis

[winter fulcrum]

they broke off of monarchist britain and then later became fascist after declaring war on me

[drowsy mirage]

alt history germany is so much funner than regular

[upbeat tundra]

its an obligation to do prussian legacy too

when doing monarchist germany

[drowsy mirage]

fr

my artillery was genuinely so overpowered that game

[upbeat tundra]

u better not be referring to infantry with arty

[drowsy mirage]

nah support company

[upbeat tundra]

phew

was worried for a sec

[drowsy mirage]

it added tons of stats

i hate line artillery

[upbeat tundra]

btw u have a free doctrine

[drowsy mirage]

that was like a month ago i was too focused on the sov front

[winter fulcrum]

bro germany is the WORST ally ever

first they kick me out for the british the day they capitulate, then when i rejoin they attack the soviets

lowk im glad i didnt join the war against the soviets

[drowsy mirage]

dude buy coal

[winter fulcrum]

omg bruh now i have to go to australia

[upbeat tundra]

@winter fulcrum which dlc do u need for regnum romanorum again?

[winter fulcrum]

by blood alone

[upbeat tundra]

fahh another dlc i need to buy

[drowsy mirage]

i might be a hypocrite but if u get pissed at sudden changes like this just play with historical on

[drowsy mirage]

just pay the 7$ a month

u save so much more money

[winter fulcrum]

just get the subscription

germany lowk deserved ts

welp the runs screwed

imma just start a new one

[clear dagger]

oh boy i bet people have a real positive view on the new dlc

i havent tried it out yet

[winter fulcrum]

ngl i wish that they added reworked focus trees for other countries too like yugoslavia and maybe like albania with it

i feel like adding a dlc that only reworks ONE single country and does nothing else would be kinda boring

[ancient marsh]

it having no slovakia content is a joke

$6 for 1 focus tree would mean the next dlc is at least $18 and paradox would round that up to $20

[winter fulcrum]

isnt the next dlc like indochina and dutch east indies?

[ancient marsh]

australia indonesia siam

i was a vanilla defender for so long but after ncns i cant even justify this slop anymore

[upbeat tundra]

i told u u needed more army

lets be honest the best and possibly the only dlc you really need for hoi4 is no step back

[ancient marsh]

until they make it free

[upbeat tundra]

NSB is the only dlc i wouldnt consider slop along with like

gotterdanmerung

and la resitance

[misty fossil]

and BBA

and NCNS

i think the ncns japan tree is really good

cant exactly say the same for the chinese trees though

idrk what to make of them

[misty fossil]

nsb, bba, la resistance, gdr, aat and ncns

but if i can only choose one i would choose la resistance just for collab gov

[warped skiff]

get ratioed

[astral forum]

Slight bug with the old Czech tree, and idk if this is known or if its because of the recent dlc, but the Czechs will ask to join the Comintern through their focus and then immediately leave if they aren't communist. And then they pop the Romanian question. However they will declare war on the Soviets per their guarantee instead of attacking the Romanians and using their war goal.

[misty fossil]

hydrogen baby vs coughing bomb

[warped skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[misty fossil]

perhaps

it could have been 2k if i played my cards right

the uk lost 85% of its factories to strat bombing at one point

[winter fulcrum]

just not true

[upbeat tundra]

then what is the best hoi4 dlc?

[winter fulcrum]

no i agree that nsb is probably the best but not the only dlc needed

[upbeat tundra]

well what else do you rlly need?

[restive sable]

id argue BBA and maybe GDR

[winter fulcrum]

gottamdamerung, maybe ncns

[restive sable]

LaR as well

[misty fossil]

whats lar

oh resistance

[misty fossil]

heres mine

so yeah basically all the expansion dlcs

oh aat too

[winter fulcrum]

if i could only choose one dlc to have it would be bba or gdr

[upbeat tundra]

but would u say they really add REALLY important mechanics/

[misty fossil]

have fun walking all the way past the urals

[winter fulcrum]

i do have fun

[misty fossil]

id rather have my own spies

[winter fulcrum]

and yknow what

ill play hist germany rn and cap the soviets

[upbeat tundra]

id rather have a tank designer

[misty fossil]

thats fair

[upbeat tundra]

then not having to walk past the urals

[upbeat tundra]

oh u cant forget the one big boom thing

the railway cannon

[misty fossil]

i dont like them

because uh

[upbeat tundra]

its funny

[misty fossil]

every time it relocates it ALWAYS tries to go over the sea

then get sunk by subs when im not looking

https://tenor.com/view/judgement-cat-cat-angry-cat-cat-face-cat-forehead-gif-4731341898773190051

[upbeat tundra]

my friend captured 3 soviet ones as romania

[misty fossil]

genuinely infuriating

[upbeat tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzSMFWKCHhg

btw downfall is free on yt rn

peak ww2 movie

[misty fossil]

why is he falling down? is he under the gravity of the situation?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996941432327778335/1168317633016369223/F6C31E30-666F-43E3-B6E2-251D177346B1.gif

[upbeat tundra]

all he had to do was wait for the big S to counterattack

[misty fossil]

soviet union

[upbeat tundra]

he had to wait for the big STEIN(er) to counterattack

[misty fossil]

big stein?

thin lines buddy

[safe wing]

Steiner

Wanted to see if the word was blocked

[violet copper]

Hi chat

Is there a mod for Vietnam war?

Or like

Any Cold War mods

[winter fulcrum]

there are but i forgot the names

[astral forum]

Cold War: Iron Curtain is the only one I can think off the top of my head but it's outdated af afaik

[violet copper]

Isn’t that alt history?

I just want to liberate the world as Nixon and Ford from Communism

💔

[astral forum]

Nah, you can do alt-hist iyw but it starts off pretty on track iirc

[violet copper]

What year?

I know the Cold War starts in the 50s but nothing really happens til mid 60s

I guess Korean War happened but it’s not really a war that is worthy of a whole mod

[astral forum]

'49

[violet copper]

Ughhh

They prob don’t even have Ford and Reagan as playable

America has boring as Ike and Truman💔

[thorn zodiac]

Ok

[violet copper]

Who has it worse?

[misty fossil]

there's tno

[violet copper]

The biggest problem with HOI4 is that it takes so long to sim

[upbeat tundra]

aim?

[violet copper]

Auto correct

[upbeat tundra]

ah

would be fun though if u could aim SH railway guns

[violet copper]

The first 3 years of HOI4 for most small countries you just sit there for half of it and just wait for the thing to slowly simulate

[upbeat tundra]

they need a x10 time

[violet copper]

The fire rises needs that

[upbeat tundra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1082719406

this works but its on 1.12.11

[violet copper]

Cuz legit what reason is there to play as Orange man before the civil war as sleepyman ?

[violet copper]

I legit spent 4 hours playing TFR before the fire actually rose cuz I didn’t know it was a civil war mod and the fact it gives you an entire year to play as Orange before the civil war made it really annoying to learn it was all for nothing

[upbeat tundra]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367709603

@violet copper this makes everything 1/2

35 day focuses instead of 70 etc

[violet copper]

Does it work for mods?

[upbeat tundra]

hope so

[violet copper]

That would make AtomWaffen actual hell to play

I want to force one of the pros to try to win with that installed

[violet copper]

Every 35 days shoot yourself in the foot with a double barrel shotgun

[violet copper]

Equestria at war really needs it

That mod is so miserably slow

Or maybe I’m just not playing it right

That’s what the mods of their discord said before banning me

[upbeat tundra]

lol why they ban u

[misty fossil]

i too was banned for politics

they havent unbanned me yet

even though i appealed

[upbeat tundra]

i hate how the politics based game hates politics mention

[violet copper]

1. I got in a argument with the members cuz they said I was cheesing the mod by getting to 1015 as Equestria while staying on good enough relations with Chrysalis to stop the changeling invasion
2. I made a princess molestia joke and because all the mods are LARPing as Bronies and have never talked to actual Bronies before, they didn’t get it.
3. I called their mod “My LARPing animals OCs at war.” and basically said that they clearly were using MLP as a way to popularize the mod while not seeming to truly care about MLP enough to actually update the real parts of MLP.
4. I said the server was 1984

[violet copper]

That’s why I got banned

[upbeat tundra]

why do you still play eaw then

[violet copper]

I don’t

I play the fire rises

Cuz at least their fans know they’re larpers

[upbeat tundra]

idk it never works for me

it keeps crashing for me

correct ver and everything

i click USA and unpause

and then boom crash

[violet copper]

It freezes while loading and I basically just go and eat food. Cuz if I touch it while it’s frozen it crashes

[violet copper]

HOI4 never mentions: the final solution, Japan war crime strategy, the USSR massacres, chemical warfare, etc

[upbeat tundra]

i had a japanese kid say at history class in my school when we were learning about ww2 that "this shit is all american propaganda making the divine light of japan look bad" (he rlly said that)

[violet copper]

They claim it’s to “prevent the game from becoming a hate crime simulator” but we all know it’s cuz if they condone the violence done by any of those groups their most obnoxious and dedicated fans may throw a tantrum

[upbeat tundra]

its already a warcrime sim

[violet copper]

Meant hate crime not war crime

[upbeat tundra]

nothing better then historical censorship am i right?

[violet copper]

But it’s lowkey annoying that TFR is the only mod that really seems to have the balls to deal with a heavy issue

And they do it in the most larpy way possible

[fair horizon]

why do you care so much?

[upbeat tundra]

my friend made a mod with the caust focuses and it got removed

[upbeat tundra]

its historical censorship

and historical censorship is bad

[fair horizon]

really? cause i dont see how an arcadey map painting game needs you to have atrocities in it for it to be played

[violet copper]

Cuz censoring that stuff only makes the bad people look better

[upbeat tundra]

im not even talking abt that typa stuff

im talking about basic stuff even

like censoring the real nazi flag

[violet copper]

Without the Final solution German Reich would honestly have been seen as a good empire

[upbeat tundra]

etc

[upbeat tundra]

or the camps

[violet copper]

So not including it at all feels like taking out a major chunk of why the allies needed to step in

[violet copper]

The final solution was the caust + the other stuff

[fair horizon]

germany declared war on us btw

[upbeat tundra]

right i keep forgetting it isnt the last part

[violet copper]

When Germany took Austria majority of the world cheered and claimed Hitler had reunited the people.

[scenic pulsar]

holy shit name of the dlc in the dlc

[violet copper]

Hitler became feared because of his use of anti-semitism to keep people in line

[violet copper]

Rome declared war on a lot of people and is looked back on with awe

Germany is looked back on with embarrassment

[upbeat tundra]

im just glad mods can uncensor censorship

[violet copper]

They can’t cuz steam gets uncomfy

I’m honestly shocked AtomWaffen hasn’t gotten TFR taken down

[upbeat tundra]

and before anyone says rome didnt commit geno, it literally tried to stomp out christianity

[violet copper]

Steam takes down majority of it

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[violet copper]

The difference is that Rome didn’t publicly execute any of its war heroes because of their religion

[violet copper]

Hitler rose to power by claiming the Jews were too self centered and had lost them the War by being too focused on themselves. So the moment he got into power he immediately just started stripping any Jewish military of their honors then killing them

[fair horizon]

honestly if you want something like that in your game make a mod ig

[upbeat tundra]

my jewish friend made a mod mentioning the caust so ppl wouldnt forget it and it got taken down

[violet copper]

Steam will kill it

[upbeat tundra]

my jewish friend did and it got taken down brolie

[fair horizon]

i wouldnt want to be that messed up in the head to want to include that but you do you ig

[violet copper]

I think steam is taking it down

Does the WW1 mod reference the Armenian?

Cuz that’s the only thing even close to the level of the caust

[upbeat tundra]

mentioning historical stuff is messed up in the head?

[upbeat tundra]

japan...

[violet copper]

They literally just destroyed an entire civilization of people and got away with it

[violet copper]

China is still on the map. Armenia is barely recognized anymore because Turkey did so much damage, especially to children

[upbeat tundra]

yk why ppl dont care that much about that? and its not about ethnicity or whatever

[violet copper]

Turkey threatened to bomb America when we tried to make a day of remembrance

[upbeat tundra]

lemme quote trevor noah on this: "The ____caust is one of the most documented atrocities in history. The reason we say six million Jews died is because the Nazis kept records. They counted people, they tracked them, they documented everything. So when the world looks back, there is a number, there is proof, there is something you can point to and say this is what happened.

But many other atrocities in history didn’t have that kind of record-keeping. So when people ask what happened, there’s no clear number, no list, no system that captured it in the same way. And because humans rely on those records to understand scale, things without them are easier to ignore or forget."

but also that

[upbeat tundra]

doesnt make it any better

[violet copper]

Thanks Obam a

[upbeat tundra]

anyways i think what trevor said on the topic is very accurate

most genos in history werent well documented

its harder to get horrified by a guess then a number

[violet copper]

Armenian did. There were cameramen and stuff. No one cared at the time because WW1 had just ended

[upbeat tundra]

were there a documented ammount of victims?

at the end of the day most people care about that number, as bad as it is

[violet copper]

1.5 mil is agreed to be the number by most historians

[upbeat tundra]

but that still is an estimate

and again

it is harder to be horrified by an estimate

then a documented number

im def not saying that it wasnt bad

im just saying people are less inclined to care

if its not a well documented number

[violet copper]

There were 2 million Armenians at the start of the death marches. 350K were left after it

[upbeat tundra]

if its not thoroughly documented

[upbeat tundra]

again that is an estimate

[violet copper]

The problem is that I frankly think the Armenian one is in some ways worse

Cuz Germany afterwards at least admitted they were wrong

[upbeat tundra]

a lot of them in history were worse

[violet copper]

Turkey has all the numbers and stuff

And actually refuses to give it

[upbeat tundra]

because of the reason i stated before

[violet copper]

And says they’ll stop working with any country that recognizes it as a major part of history

[upbeat tundra]

japan doesnt even teach its atrocities in its schools

did you know that?

they teach that they were the victims of ww2

[quasi goblet]

japanese and italy cost hitler his war

[upbeat tundra]

meh

[violet copper]

Is there a HOI4 mod where I can play as Armenia and destroy Turkey?

[violet copper]

That’s not true

They’re nationalist

[upbeat tundra]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3425218699

you are not gunna beleive ur luck

[quasi goblet]

you disagree?

[upbeat tundra]

cause there is indeed a mod

for that

[violet copper]

Who actually likes turkey??

Do Turkish people even like their country??

Like

[upbeat tundra]

bald men

and ppl who have crooked teeth

[violet copper]

Everything I read about them just makes them sound like Nazis but with a Muslim spice

[upbeat tundra]

@violet copper play this though

[violet copper]

Is it hard to win

[upbeat tundra]

no idea

should be fun

[violet copper]

Ngl idk why Armenia joined the USSR

Idk why anyone would join the USSR tho

[upbeat tundra]

remeber it was the GD

great depression

while most of the worlds econs failed the soviets were acc booming

@violet copper wait i found u a good mod for that

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2245710438

[violet copper]

No it wasn’t

Armenia joined in the 1920s

They literally joined at a time of economic prosperity for the area

[upbeat tundra]

wierd then

also play that mod

[violet copper]

The problem with these mods is that

I’m dogshit at hoi4

[upbeat tundra]

but its ez to win

[upbeat tundra]

the hell is turkey gunna do against panzer divisions

[violet copper]

Huh

[dusky burrow]

armenia was conquered

and partitioned btw

[tough panther]

I'm a bit confused by this, hasn't the arms market been a feature for years now?

[tough panther]

weren't they getting invaded by Turkey and also having their own bolshevik revolution?

[scenic pulsar]

im playing the peace for our time dlc does the game automatically play music when the sudeten crisis happens?

i thought that was only in mods

[atomic grove]

no

[scenic pulsar]

i dont think the big C is surviving this 🥺 ✌️

[atomic grove]

why are u not abandoning tirol

abandon it

[past crater]

because he's doing a sloppy game

just auto frontlined like an idiot

[scenic pulsar]

im trying my best

thats all that counts

[atomic grove]

u shouldnt hold tirol

[past crater]

not rlly bro.

[atomic grove]

its worthless and cant be defended

retreat to salzburg and that one mountain tile under

[scenic pulsar]

i reloaded before i took austria

im thinking maybe i should just build up and get a smaller border and defeat the germans THEN take austria

[past crater]

or just build max forts

and the ai wont attack you g
Regardless

[scenic pulsar]

i was in the process of that

[trim plume]

Japan does NOT like china bro

[vale rose]

guys how to get historical borders for Poland as USSR?

[vale rose]

in vanilla

[viscid swift]

what do u mean by that?

are you talking about Kresy Wschodnie?

[vale rose]

mb

idk

[viscid swift]

this?

[vale rose]

this

[vale rose]

in peace conferention after barb

[grave sonnet]

Gotta get the Molotov Ribbentrop pact

And sign it

[vale rose]

ik

what about polish pomerania?

[grave sonnet]

So whats the problem then?

[grave sonnet]

Goes to Germany

[vale rose]

ok. I capped Germany. How can I transfer yerritories to Poland and puppet them in conferention?

[grave sonnet]

Oh that

[grave sonnet]

Click on Poland

And give them the territories

[vale rose]

I cant

[grave sonnet]

Try puppeting poland

If you occupy their territories

[vale rose]

ok

ty

[vague abyss]

they declared

why do I feel like @ripe slate has specifically coded this tile to be used for a tank offensive 🤣

[ember sorrel]

hi

[vague abyss]

hi hi

[vague abyss]

may I recommend we add a repair queue priority filter so i.e forts 😉

gotcha

they got hungarian mil access btw

[trim plume]

js push them in slovakia

stupid

[vague abyss]

i did i got them

its ok chamberlin will come save us 🤣

[trim plume]

the typa actions that the allies expected czechoslovakia to do

while they are doing batshit nothing

[heavy vigil]

hii tumon

[cedar lance]

hello casey

[heavy vigil]

hiii marko

[trim plume]

temporarily became the CSA then after a few years of war in the south american nation i have finally begun the transitioning of the puppets into democratic ones

[jade ore]

hungary will join the axis btw and germany will be invading poland

[vague abyss]

yup

[jade ore]

u might be cooked

[vague abyss]

i got this

more equipment needed

[jade ore]

unless you just hold czechia

[vague abyss]

more divs

mmmmmmm

[trim plume]

js

get forts

and occupy mountains

[vague abyss]

its okay the french will surely launch an offensive into the saar?

[jade ore]

thats not really how it works anymore

[trim plume]

most of slovakia is literally mountains

vro

[jade ore]

yes bro

dont do anything just wait for france

poland did it too

and they are prospering nation today

[vague abyss]

chamberlin gave czech its word it wouldn't be abandoned, we have received land leases and soon im sure the french will invade as the germans are preparing on poland

https://tenor.com/view/smile-fade-smile-fade-to-dumb-happy-to-straight-face-smile-fade-to-shock-smile-fade-to-curious-gif-4098180333973202457

we pushed here

[jade ore]

nice but dont go too far

cuz hungary is gonna join

[jade ore]

just leave it at vienna

[vague abyss]

the allies joined

its okay

[cold mist]

whats the new dlc about (except czechslovakia focus)

[vague abyss]

I told u we could rely on our allies in the western europe

[jade ore]

i am unsure but if you want you can check out the patch notes

[jade ore]

mil access or already joined

[heavy vigil]

is czech playable

[jade ore]

i mean looks like it

[vague abyss]

got emm

[vague abyss]

yeah but manpowers an issue and u gotta refill tiles

[jade ore]

w

[vague abyss]

I told u we could rely on chamerlin and the french

[jade ore]

i mean they are actively losing near munich 😭

[vague abyss]

THE ROMANIANS JOINED BRUH

[jade ore]

shocker or joined the allies

[vague abyss]

and poland just started a fascist civilwar...

[vague abyss]

axis

[jade ore]

lol also why ur achievements off

[heavy vigil]

just get more

[jade ore]

tuff gap in the frontline

[vague abyss]

the italians joined too

[cedar lance]

wassup

[trim plume]

wow its so tuff

how did you get austria

[heavy vigil]

im waking up hbu

[cedar lance]

im good myself

[trim plume]

2 wars such a peaceful world

[vague abyss]

oh boy

[jade ore]

i love the british flag and its just iceland

[vague abyss]

austria is always abandoned with 1 divs on a plain/forest

[jade ore]

could be worse right

hungary could join oOoOoOoO

[cedar lance]

i only play Estonia

[vague abyss]

DONT

EVEN

SAY

THAT

[jade ore]

ur probably encircled if u stay

[cedar lance]

becus im Estonian IRL

[trim plume]

the worse part is yugoslavia

if it falls now you don't even have a buffer with italy

if they inevitably join

[vague abyss]

THEY JOINED THE AXIS

[cedar lance]

im good myself

[jade ore]

hungary?

[trim plume]

im not hungary rn

[jade ore]

niether

[jade ore]

🥀

[trim plume]

germany does NOT like anybody this game bro

[jade ore]

bro plays gets annexed and gg goes next

[trim plume]

not a singular axis ally spared

italy is next i think

they are the worst contributor so far

[vague abyss]

pulling out of carpathia to be safe

[jade ore]

w germany kinda realistic push into hungary to storm the capital

[cedar lance]

bruh

[cedar lance]

bruh what

[jade ore]

7 divs on one tile 💀

[vague abyss]

they joined

[trim plume]

italy divs

[trim plume]

then germany divs

[jade ore]

ur fault for not preparing

[trim plume]

FRANCE IS RICHT THERE

PUSH WITH FRANCE

PUSH WITH FRANCE!!

[jade ore]

least buffed thing ever

[vague abyss]

holding

[trim plume]

btw the soviet union and the uk have combined 6k+ divs

estimated

[vague abyss]

my divs are saving me from hungary rn

[trim plume]

PUSH TO FRANCE

GET ATLEAST LIKE

[cedar lance]

FOOL

[trim plume]

A TURD LINE

[vague abyss]

holding ig

[trim plume]

FRANCE IS LITERALLY

2 TILES AWAY

BRO

[vague abyss]

yeah but we can't launch an offensive right now

[trim plume]

not even spare a division?

literally look in bavaria

[vague abyss]

high command disagree saying holding our forts is more ideal we can wait for the french to arrive to us, after all they kept their word did they not?

[trim plume]

you can atleast connect to france to get some french divisions in

the japanese were winning early on but due to the endless wave of chinese they actually pushed them back

[jade ore]

they arent even moving either lol plus potential pocket

[jade ore]

historical

[vague abyss]

ill deploy these its okay

i got a plan

ill use those to push the hungarians

its working

maybe we can knock them/romania out the war

[trim plume]

the japanese aren't learning that they can't js naval invade the same spot over and over and over again

and it will change

[trim plume]

PUSH TO THE FRENCH TURD LINE

RAHHH

[jade ore]

once china kicks them out of manchuria and korea japan will actually do better when invading the rubber holdings down south lol

[vague abyss]

eh

[trim plume]

thats not gonna happen any time soon bub they both have equal div amounts

[jade ore]

the div count doesnt matter

[trim plume]

true...

[jade ore]

germany could have 6m fielded men and still lose because they have 0 equipment

[trim plume]

true...

[jade ore]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[trim plume]

the problem is i modified the production just a little bit to prevent that from happening

so they just have enough to sustain thousands of divs

what the hell is germany doing 💔

[jade ore]

case anton

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

wassup Rox

[jade ore]

wsg wsg

[cedar lance]

im good hbu

[trim plume]

oh no the italian disaster in africa has begun

[jade ore]

i am also doing quite well thank you for asking

[cedar lance]

nice

[jade ore]

high cortisol germany

[trim plume]

timelapse is crazy

[jade ore]

give me ideas twin

[trim plume]

somehow scared non-aligned estonia into joining the comintern 💔

[jade ore]

that i dont have to mod cuz im not good at modding

[trim plume]

philippines buffed

then philippines declares war on world

[vital mirage]

Is the new chekoslovakia tech tree is good in term of formable?

[trim plume]

there is no tech tree

in czechoslovakia

[vital mirage]

The new dlc

[jade ore]

i mean

maybe something europe related

[trim plume]

no

europe is always changed

south east asia next

hoi4 crashed

fantastic

[cedar lance]

jesus

[jade ore]

truth but gets most views

less people care about asia ww2 than europe ww2

[cedar lance]

idk why in vanilla base game we dont have those foreign legion units and templates from germany during ww2

[trim plume]

austria gets a small buff

and rejects anshluss

[jade ore]

they will not survive with a "small" buff 😭

[trim plume]

major then

also why

would you ask for MY opinion

[cedar lance]

what yalls think bout this idea?

[trim plume]

when germany is already

[jade ore]

i mean u can make them

larp

[cedar lance]

wdym make em

[jade ore]

nah i mean for next time

[jade ore]

lowk just pretend its foreign legion

[cedar lance]

well i can also mod em in

with different icons

[trim plume]

lowkey js introduce volunteers but even better

actually lowkey introduce ai controlled divs

[jade ore]

how good are u at modding

[trim plume]

no need for puppeting

[cedar lance]

none

im still gathering ideas rn

[jade ore]

rip

i just wanna know how i can make the capital star icons smaller and the city icons

[trim plume]

you don't

thats the neat part

[cedar lance]

@jade ore there is a flag icons mod for hoi4

[jade ore]

wha

[jade ore]

like you dont know or its not possible

[trim plume]

not possible UNLESS you are a modder

because it requires actually changing the icons in the game which may conflict

[jade ore]

conflict with what 💀

[trim plume]

other ingame stuff

[jade ore]

i mean thats why i asked but i guess no one knows how to

[trim plume]

hoi4 is like a broken down home

just taped up with glue that is water soluble

change something in it expect the house to either collapse or be unusable

[grave pendant]

Hello guys! Does anyone know any tips on how to manage military meaning offense, defense and everything else?

[trim plume]

or unbearably bad

[grave pendant]

Or does anyone know a good video?

[jade ore]

hello i would go to #ask-for-help-here

[grave pendant]

Thanks

[jade ore]

no problem

[jade ore]

its just an icon

its not gonna crash my game bro 💀

[lapis snow]

in the case of gfx as long as you retain the file names and don't mess with the code you can replace them 1:1 with a different image. The issue is actually making a mod that you can publish

[trim plume]

trust the game to crash either way

[trim plume]

ah okay

so the gfx is just the wall of the broken house

[jade ore]

that sounds like something a smart person would say

[trim plume]

and you can change it whenever you want

[lapis snow]

make sure the encoding and sizes are exactly right though

[jade ore]

is it possible you know how to help me

im not trying to publish anything its just for my own use

[lapis snow]

having modded the game myself, I know it's a pain, but icons aren't too bad

[jade ore]

capital star icon and text?

[lapis snow]

text?

[jade ore]

like to get rid of the text e.g London
heres an example, they are tiny for this video from 5 years ago

and the text isnt visible

[thick vector]

Is this the latest update?

[trim plume]

i dont

erm

whats that country leader

right there

[jade ore]

that doesnt say anything about the new update

[trim plume]

we got bigger elephants to show

[thick vector]

The territory became different in 1939, which should not have been a protectorate of Czechoslovakia

[trim plume]

either you picked a save

or

they modified the 1939 scenario

to add a czech reichskommissariat

or

[jade ore]

or

[trim plume]

germany is STUPID

[lapis snow]

change the defines. 00_graphics file, there are a few lines in there about gfx cutoffs on zoom levels. You can change that without having to mess with icons at all

[jade ore]

im aware of the cutoff, i just want the scale to be smaller but still visible

[lapis snow]

you can by replacing the image but the text idk man

you'd have to replace the entire game font by that point I think

[jade ore]

i mean the text can stay if i can find a way to make it all smaller

[lapis snow]

no idea if that's possible

[jade ore]

i mean it must be ,right? if the ss on the left is from a yt video

[lapis snow]

that video seems to be using a timelapse mode though

not actual gameplay

[jade ore]

i am also using a timelapse mod and not trying to actually play the game

[lapis snow]

then idk how to help you

[jade ore]

alr np

ty tho

[wide osprey]

you ppbly need to serch something in graphic defines

[trim plume]

you can js zoom out long enough for the text to disappear

[jade ore]

yea but then i still wanna change the size of the stars

[jade ore]

ill have a look

wait so they could've been escaping from encirclements this entire time

[lapis snow]

pdx intentionally gimps the AI to make the game playable for plebs

[jade ore]

they should make it so the harder the difficulty setting the better the ai is, not just stupid debuffs for the player and slight buffs for the ai

[lapis snow]

fully agree

[jade ore]

and even on normal difficulty make them be able to escape from encirclements or something bro they just sit there and take it

[steel spear]

is this a good Anti-Tank templet

i dont have many recources cuz im playing as finland

i have a limited amount to work with

[tulip thorn]

no

thats not good for anything really

[steel spear]

¨damn

[lapis snow]

you don't need line AT for winter war, or anything really

[steel spear]

i got it off of a friend

[tulip thorn]

Ai tannks are so bad with vanilla ai

[steel spear]

ooohh alr alr

[tulip thorn]

You can pierce them with support aa 1

[steel spear]

so I should just remove?

[tulip thorn]

and the rest of the ai stats are shit anyway

yes

[lapis snow]

most sov tanks in 39/40 will still be inter-war and basic LTs anyway

[steel spear]

ale imma out production on AA and Artillery then

also, is free trade any good?

should I have it on there

[tulip thorn]

Finland has nothing to begin with so its literally free research speed I guess

I dont remember anything else free trade does

[jade ore]

intel but that doesnt matter

[tulip thorn]

Might actually be a waste of politcal power

150 for something that does pretty much nothing

[jade ore]

ye probably

[trim plume]

800 finnish rifles 5 actual soldiers

[tulip thorn]

I meant with resources

Finland has pretty much nothing

[lapis snow]

you kinda have chromium of all things

[tulip thorn]

Not really that useful for the things you will make as finland

[lapis snow]

exactly

[tulip thorn]

atleast give them a tiny bit of coal

[lapis snow]

a morsel of lignite

[trim plume]

2 steel

thats all they gonna get

actually maybe like

9 coal

[swift violet]

Yeah this dlc is doodoo

[tulip thorn]

How so?

[swift violet]

Same as before only it got expanded

[tulip thorn]

I like it quite a bit

That has got to be ragebait

[swift violet]

Nah its still too easy

[trim plume]

no its reasonable

opinion

because it didn't do ANYTHING

but make czechoslovakia have more options

to die

[lapis snow]

the expectations some people have are just unreal

[tulip thorn]

If you are dying as the czechs

[tulip thorn]

fr

[swift violet]

Just rework the allies 😭 🙏

The axis is alr done

[rare arch]

you might just be bad at the game because czechoslovakia has the most insane production buffs out of any country currently.

[trim plume]

for the ai*

[tulip thorn]

They literally are

[swift violet]

I mean we've got base focus trees for France UK and USA

[trim plume]

im not playing czechoslovakia

but every time i see them try they die either way

[tulip thorn]

Give them time my guy

[trim plume]

unless they early join the comintern

[tulip thorn]

I bet if they do release new allies focus tree's people will still hate them

[swift violet]

Nah

[rare arch]

yeah i guess but that isnt a czechoslovakia exclusive issue. ai is horrible in general vanilla hoi4 is disgustinly bad and on each update they just add more and more mechanics that the ai doesnt utilize properly its a mess

[tulip thorn]

I hope they release it as a broken dlc

[swift violet]

Anythings better than what they've currently got

[trim plume]

thats true

humans over ai

[swift violet]

Paradox have to make the next game infinitely more difficult against the ai and not have to rely on modders

[lapis snow]

100% mostly negative on steam because some witch hunt starts over nothing. GOE was justified but most of the hate for the dlcs is pure babyism from broke kids who started playing last year

[jade ore]

broo they so nearly had good boreders but then africa and poland

[tulip thorn]

hating the cost of the dlc's is reasonable. But like when content is actually good why hate it lol

[jade ore]

its literally £5 for an entire czech focus tree

[rare arch]

it really isnt reasonable we are just desensitized to pdx prices

[swift violet]

Nah thats historical poland after ww2 for about 2 months

[tulip thorn]

I know

[swift violet]

Yeah £5 makes zero sense

[jade ore]

there shouldnt be any hate on the cost lol thats basically free

[tulip thorn]

I know

[trim plume]

what the hell is this

[lapis snow]

same as the price of a premium pint of beer. How OUTRAGEOUS!!!11!

[trim plume]

this is NOT the treaty

bro

[swift violet]

Just make one big dlc and include all nations r smth

[tulip thorn]

that was my point, hating the prices of paradox dlcs is reasonable

[trim plume]

500 usd

in total

[swift violet]

Probably but more worth it than this

[trim plume]

2k?

maybe a thousand?

[cedar lance]

@jade ore hello

[tulip thorn]

Then we would wait literal years for it to release, only for everyone to hate it at launch because "Modders offer better for free"

[jade ore]

hi

[trim plume]

there should be an interesting version of the US that isn't CSA or like CSA

(Communist and Confederacy)

[jade ore]

people giving mixed signals till paradox just stops making content for hoi4 then everyone hates paradox theres no winning

[tulip thorn]

There is no winning

[trim plume]

paradox doesn't do a valve move by giving the players the tools to fix the game itself

and its OVER

we are DONE

[cedar lance]

i wanna add foreign legions and more Div icons

[sage isle]

They just need to go through and patch in new treaty systems. Stop trying to make every single country capable of fighting on the big world stage and give more concessions. Make the UK fight more realistically. The allies are all boring except India.

[jade ore]

oh wait i mean there are foreign templates you can use

they need to be ur puppet

[cedar lance]

yes ik rox

[tulip thorn]

Then they piss off half the community because the focus tree is way to weak

Paradox cant win

[cedar lance]

hello tank

[lapis snow]

The expansions for EU3 would set this community on fire if pdx did it with hoi4

[sage isle]

The African Italian or whatever is really cool, other than that meh I agree

[cedar lance]

how do i add more Div icons

[trim plume]

the only thing i don't like about hoi4 is the airforce and naval ai
the navy ai is somewhat fixed and is ALMOST replicating the old naval ai of RAHHH SHIPS EVERYWHERE!!!

the airforce is still as dense as always

[rare arch]

airforce wasnt bad until they added a designer without teaching ai how to use the designer

[sage isle]

Czechs getting big stage treatment is reasonable they were an economic powerhouse for a sec. But as a whole one dlc for the Czechs and no edits to any of the rest of the Balkan is dumb. Plus how did the middle east get an overhaul before the czechs

[rare arch]

and thats the case for actually every designer in the game including tank and navy

[trim plume]

thats true

[tulip thorn]

the czech dlc is a very experimental thing

[trim plume]

its like giving a baby 17 hand grenades and pointing them towards 900 heavily armed combatants

[tulip thorn]

Pretty sure paradox was also trying to focus on giving focus tree's to nations that didnt have any with country packs

[sage isle]

I understand that, but the real experiment is seeing if we'll pay for one nations tree, and it's right between a paid reskin of ships and seaplanes

[trim plume]

btw im also complaining of the ally using my airbases and even when their planes are in range they don't like go

do a mission

[tulip thorn]

Its also because its 100% made and developed by modders from the community

Thats why its 1 nation

[sage isle]

I don't hate it, I've been wanting a Czech tree for a long time, I just don't understand what's going on over there. How wasn't it one yet?

[rare arch]

true but atlesat back in the day you would get actually good fighters since the planes were the same for everyone now you get the starting inter war design

[sage isle]

Oh is it?

[lapis snow]

You can try saying this over and over but people will still try to make the point

[tulip thorn]

yes

its made by 3 modders from the communtity

[lapis snow]

I'm sick to death of people coping about the dlc

[sage isle]

I hope they're getting paid then

[tulip thorn]

It literally says it in the description

[trim plume]

yeah atleast it was very very balanced

[steel spear]

BROTHER, the second the winter war starter USSR was in Helsinki, like litterally the second they decleread war

[trim plume]

like okay we have a bunch of planes

but atleast they are the same

[steel spear]

i did NOt have costal defence yet

[trim plume]

and instead of making the best plane design ever

[sage isle]

I'm ngl I didn't read super far into it, I'm in the middle of college finals, I was just annoyed it seemed so small and took so long

[trim plume]

we have to use the planes wisely

[jade ore]

ohh thats why its £5

[sage isle]

They are getting paid right?

[lapis snow]

fothermucker they HAD a tree already from DoD. It was integrated into vanilla already

christ

[tulip thorn]

Idk

[jade ore]

incredibly tiny

[tulip thorn]

Probably

[grave sonnet]

fothermucker 💔?

[lapis snow]

that's how it was back then

[sage isle]

Yeah it sucked dude.

[jade ore]

fair

[tulip thorn]

Because it was one of the first 3 dlcs

[rare arch]

the mentality you guys have about the dlc price is insane. hoi4 dlc policy is very hostile to newcomers that already have to buy all the dlcs + the base game. yes for us 6$ is nothing considering we own everything else but honestly with the rest of the game content the money adds up its unacceptable.

[trim plume]

very very hostile*

[grave sonnet]

Make everything free 👍

[lapis snow]

You completely lack perspective on the content that was there, when it was made and the development cycle. Then come and say "I don't get why it took so long"

[trim plume]

think of it as cheating ai difficulty

[jade ore]

how do you think they should price the dlcs then genius

[rare arch]

price things reasonable

[sage isle]

I agree actuallyz though they should decrease the price of the core mechanics

[tulip thorn]

Im not even trying to defend the price

[safe wing]

I spent 40 usd on Skyrim best purchase I ever made

[tulip thorn]

As I do think paradox with pricing dlcs is pretty bad

[cedar lance]

hello tank

[sage isle]

No the original tree from DOD sucked. It was barely playable compared to the rest of the DOD content.

[jade ore]

if ur complaining about £5 for an entire focus tree for a country then idk what to tell u

[trim plume]

4 usd atleast

[rare arch]

again this only looks like 5$ because you already own the rest of the game. a new player that just bought hoi4 wont ever consider buying more than 1 dlc because all together are so expensive it adds up brother...

[lapis snow]

that's not the point I was making but ok man

[sage isle]

I think a total war treatment would be good for the game. Only pay for the nations you play, AI get everything

[jade ore]

?? it doesnt LOOK like $5 it IS $5

[scenic pulsar]

Something tells me it’s gonna be an easing process, get us comfortable and used to 5-6 dollar dlcs, then 10, then 20 and so on

[trim plume]

crazy

[sage isle]

You seem to be talking about the new one idk what you're saying

[sage isle]

That's how total Warhammer works

[scenic pulsar]

Idk about you guys but I got the dlc and it didn’t look like anything special whatsoever

[rare arch]

you have multiple times failed to see the rest of my arguement which is "it adds up" you are either rage baiting or have officially failed the iq test, im not gonna bother much longer with you

[jade ore]

"it adds up" you dont have to buy all the dlcs

not ragebaiting and iq doesnt equal real intelligence

[rare arch]

of course you dont really need a car, just the engine

[sage isle]

You have to buy 100$ worth to even play the game

On sale

[safe wing]

🍿

[jade ore]

people can have fun without all the dlcs

[rare arch]

who are these people and can i meet them?

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/starlight-glimmer-starlight-glimmer-popcorn-eating-gif-1583089806760235671

[lapis snow]

you complained about it "taking so long" and made it sound like there was no tree there to begin with. There was a tree, limited as it was, now there's an optional new one for a nominal fee made as a side project while the main devs work on TAOG. What's the problem?

[trim plume]

total warhammer is like

a different genre of rts

[scenic pulsar]

I don’t think I saw any substance to the dlc at all

[sage isle]

The game barely even works without them dawg

[jade ore]

?? normal human beings

[jade ore]

thats not true at all

[tulip thorn]

Do you play without dlcs? The game is fine.

[jade ore]

game works fine

[tulip thorn]

It works

Its more than playable

[weary lagoon]

game works,

fun is nowhere to be seen

[trim plume]

this is like saying stellaris without the GOOD dlcs makes the game still PLAYABLE

[rare arch]

it works but is it fun? without mods? it really isnt

[scenic pulsar]

Frankly I think hoi4 is fully reliant on mods to keep the game alive so they sometimes feel like they don’t gotta do much

[sage isle]

Wouldn't matter. AI gets everything, you get what you pay for. Base mechanisms like designers and so works are made core game features because then not being core is dumb

[trim plume]

ohh

so that total war

[sage isle]

I have. Its playable, it's not even the same game

[tulip thorn]

I find base game fun

Its not that bad

[scenic pulsar]

If kaiserreich or TNO or literally any popular mod never got produced hoi4 most likely would’ve been forgotten years ago

[jade ore]

people can have fun without spending money, news flash people are grateful for what they have in the moment

[sage isle]

But why buy a game that's different from what you're advertised? Base hoi is barely a strategy game

[trim plume]

your name suits you

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-senya-gif-26024901

[jade ore]

bro its the exact same strategy game without the spearhead order

[rare arch]

you are being irrational here. if you did find the base game fun and sufficient to entertain you wouldnt buy the dlcs. they are crucial some of them literally change the mechanics of the game its unreal.

[scenic pulsar]

Thanks

[sage isle]

Yeah I meant to total Warhammer my bad

[trim plume]

i thought you were talking bout

the bloated one

[tulip thorn]

I bought the dlc's because I wanted to see new content

[rare arch]

thats just completely irrelevant to what we are talking about. obviously people can have fun without spending money

[sage isle]

It's a mobile game without them. Not even the same thing. I played it, I almost deleted it

[tulip thorn]

And because I wanted the designers

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[jade ore]

completely relevant btw

[sage isle]

It also proved how lazy they are

[tulip thorn]

Tno means nothing

[lapis snow]

Actually pdx makes people buy the dlcs by dragging their balls over hot coals

[safe wing]

Wasn’t total war Rome and Medivial 2 made into mobile games

[rare arch]

bingo the designers are a fun and crucial game mechanic that are hidden behind price tags. and i dont even mind that they sell game mechanics but selling each designer in a different dlc is like selling a mechanic thats split 3 ways its just way too greedy and you cant convince me otherwise

[sage isle]

True. It happened to me

[lapis snow]

yup

[trim plume]

tno lost content years ago

[tulip thorn]

They arent crucial

[trim plume]

talking about it is like talking about a folk tale

[jade ore]

bro is lowkey speaking entitled

[scenic pulsar]

TNO redux is good atleast

[jade ore]

nothing is crucial nothing is needed hoi4 is fine without any dlc

[scenic pulsar]

Atleast the Russian warlords are fun

[tulip thorn]

Nothing Tno is good

[jade ore]

have some fun and whimsy without spending money on dlcs

[tulip thorn]

Once you go with the designers you can never go back

[scenic pulsar]

I like the Russian warlord concept of starting out a backwater crap nation that basically no one knows about and going from conquering your way to being a superpower

[jade ore]

complaining when they finally drop the price is just gonna make them stop listening

even if its for 1 dlc

for 1 country

£5 is fine

buy dlcs on sale

[tulip thorn]

This was a joke btw, the designers are fun and all but they arent good enough to be all the fun of the game lmao

[sage isle]

The moment I saw the designers in someones video while trying to learn to play I dropped the game for months. The game is hard to learn alreadyz it's not fun when you see you have to drop 60-80 more dollars to have what are base functions of the game. Destiny 2 moment

[trim plume]

man i LOVE meta designs

[tulip thorn]

This is more of a you issue

[jade ore]

ragebait gotta be

thats on you bro 💀

[trim plume]

mmmm NO MORE fun CUSTOM designs

[scenic pulsar]

Idk if I missed anything with the new dlc but I don’t think I saw anything of note or anything interesting or substance

[safe wing]

Anyways time to play Skyrim

[jade ore]

you've said that like 4 times now

[tulip thorn]

Funny way to spell Metro 2033

[lapis snow]

you missed that it is literally a 1-country focus pack and always was. Why anyone expected different is baffling

[sage isle]

It's a base function. Most of the base functions are locked away. It's not fun when you see that they lock all the basic core concepts behind pay walls. It's a Bungie move

[scenic pulsar]

Good points need to be annunciated

[rare arch]

thats because there isnt any. paradox is now charging us for flavor exclusive dlcs that change only ONE country. genuinely just get mods.

[jade ore]

not at all

[tulip thorn]

People see new dlc, and assume its going to have everything they want

[trim plume]

people with talent sometimes may not be seen in a crowd but in the right place