hello yalls
#hoi4-general
cedar lance
distant knoll
I mean you could do that as the Soviets too
lost dawn
Do you happen to be an expert on tank design and templates?
I can never make my tanks work.
distant knoll
Just take Poland from the Germans before they take it and ruin them
distant knoll
Do you happen to be an expert on tank design and templates?
Just stack armor, Youll be fine
oak pebble
These DLCs made the game way too complicated for my low level of intellect and 300 hours played
pastel urchin
Do you happen to be an expert on tank design and templates?
my server has two dudes that know all the templates
oak pebble
Just take Poland from the Germans before they take it and ruin them
What time frame roughly should you take Poland?
cedar lance
im SO BORED
oak pebble
my server has two dudes that know all the templates
Invite me to ts gang
distant knoll
What time frame roughly should you take Poland?
Probably game start I guess if you really wanted to, that or turkey
lost dawn
my server has two dudes that know all the templates
Also. Is there, in single player, any use to building large numbers of 10 width garrison units?
distant knoll
You get free Romania because of that
pastel urchin
Also. Is there, in single player, any use to building large numbers of 10 width ...
honestly depends
lost dawn
Or should you invest in proper infantry units to do the job?
distant knoll
Also. Is there, in single player, any use to building large numbers of 10 width ...
Not really
oak pebble
You get free Romania because of that
That’s kinda op
pastel urchin
i personally dont use them
distant knoll
Or should you invest in proper infantry units to do the job?
Dont garrison anything, just have a few tanks in reserve
lost dawn
So what should port garrisons look like?
pastel urchin
Or should you invest in proper infantry units to do the job?
well idk
lost dawn
Dont garrison anything, just have a few tanks in reserve
I do not use tanks in most cases
oak pebble
How much 36w infantry should one produce to gank people? I’m talking 4 sets of artillery at the front
lost dawn
I use infantry to push
pastel urchin
I use infantry to push
depends on country
as italy
dont use tanks
but as france
distant knoll
I do not use tanks in most cases
Then just have an army of infantry with CAS And Youll be fine in SP
pastel urchin
use heavy tanks
oak pebble
I use infantry to push
Just produce a small amount of tanks and push on plains biomes
lost dawn
depends on country
I want to use tanks.
distant knoll
The Ai doesn’t know how to do invasions
lost dawn
But I always fail at making good templates
distant knoll
Like I mean literally anyone can land an invasion, but keeping it going it the difficult part which the Ai struggles with
oak pebble
A lot of people spawn way too many tanks that aren’t needed. An equal amount of infantry divisions to your opponent + 1 heavy tank should be able to push most
distant knoll
But I always fail at making good templates
Im telling you, just stack armor for the designs and soft attack and make a 36w tank template that has 200hp
oak pebble
Im telling you, just stack armor for the designs and soft attack and make a 36w ...
You don’t have an ss of the template do you?
pastel urchin
But I always fail at making good templates
distant knoll
A lot of people spawn way too many tanks that aren’t needed. An equal amount of ...
No, dont do that. It takes up your width
distant knoll
You don’t have an ss of the template do you?
Let me see
lost dawn
Those are heavy tanks
pastel urchin
Those are heavy tanks
yes
oak pebble
500 soft attack 🤤
pastel urchin
i love heavy tanks
lost dawn
No medium or light tanks?
oak pebble
No, dont do that. It takes up your width
I been playing the game wrong for ages 😭
pastel urchin
No medium or light tanks?
as france heavy tanks are the way
as germany honestly idk
medium
oak pebble
As most countries they’re the way ibr
clear dagger
go forth my legions, take back what's ours
oak pebble
Is it better to learn France or soviets first?
distant knoll
It’s a very old picture but the template should look like this
oak pebble
Thanks appreciate jt
distant knoll
It’s a very old picture but the template should look like this
Basically this template but replaced with mech marines and heavy mech tanks
clear dagger
Tututututu
dusky burrow
It’s a very old picture but the template should look like this
with mechanized instead of motorized
wide osprey
It’s a very old picture but the template should look like this
why put your battalions like this 😭
distant knoll
with mechanized instead of motorized
When you get mech obviously
distant knoll
why put your battalions like this 😭
I put my battalions in all crooked forms, what’s it to you.
Hoi4 police, hello??
oak pebble
Is it scummy to take Poland turkey romania in like the first 2 years of the game and just gank Germany?
Or well is it worth it
heavy vigil
When you get mech obviously
1937
oak pebble
I put my battalions in all crooked forms, what’s it to you.
Does that affect anything?
distant knoll
Does that affect anything?
No it doesn’t
oak pebble
Ahh I always wondered
wide osprey
I put my battalions in all crooked forms, what’s it to you.
you just violated article 43 of the hearts of iron criminal law
distant knoll
Is it scummy to take Poland turkey romania in like the first 2 years of the game...
It’s your game bro, if someone tells you not to do something but you want to do it dont listen to them
heavy vigil
Waste of tech slots
can and bul can do it
distant knoll
can and bul can do it
In mp ig, not so in sp if you’re playing neither
fair horizon
go forth my legions, take back what's ours
How much speed?
clear dagger
10.4km
fair horizon
Weak
clear dagger
ik
dusky burrow
In mp ig, not so in sp if you’re playing neither
licensed mech is quite powerful, your military factories are more efficient producing mech than infantry equipment (since that comes later)
vague abyss
wide osprey
what is the map mod 🙂
heavy vigil
what is the map mod 🙂
millennium dawn
vague abyss
cooked
vague abyss
what is the map mod 🙂
TNO
wide osprey
yeah that's funny
wide osprey
wide osprey
counter offensive 🙂
vague abyss
worst part is the encirclements are marsh tiles so its hard
frail bolt
counter offensive 🙂
Definitely Zhukov as a field Marshall
vague abyss
gulp
crude field
historical asf
vague abyss
germany after winning the courland pocket
stark rain
Wahahaha
Why I feel like the more deeper I getting into German territory the harder I can attack or capture
dusky burrow
Why I feel like the more deeper I getting into German territory the harder I can...
you're probably losing planning bonus, and yeah the terrain gets worse the further east you go
clear dagger
dark days for the allies
clear dagger
"luxembourg theater"
the one time the axis doesnt get curb stomped in 42
this is a 1/100 game
winged glacier
dark days for the allies
ehh id say that this is savable for them
clear dagger
they are slowly getting pushed out of italy 
winged glacier
they are slowly getting pushed out of italy <:haHaa:911393398211117107>
ur luxembourg
you kind of cant do shit
maybe turn on the allies grab some land
then pray u get some of the benelux
clear dagger
im already at war with them
and formed the benelux, just got pushed out because the soviets fell and didnt get to hold on the industry enough to make sufficient equipment for divisions
but now im holding
clear dagger
not how it works but okay
clear dagger
space marines work good for luxembourg up until like 42-43 where even though they cant pierce you cant replace them enough from losses
same for spgs
kind of hard to keep up with losses when you can only produce 1 tank every 3 days
winged glacier
kind of hard to keep up with losses when you can only produce 1 tank every 3 day...
my question is
how did you even get to this point
clear dagger
wdym
winged glacier
what year is it
winged glacier
well can you join the allies?
winged glacier
oh with both oops
clear dagger
hitler actually made guns this time so his troops dont starve at barb
winged glacier
hmm
maybe if you overran divs?
of allies
after they cap ger
not sure if u have the manpower for that
winged glacier
like with spgs
yes u wont be able to replace the spgs quickly
but you can get a lot of casualties in and maybe even some of ur cores
clear dagger
yes lemme switch my entire industry of 11 mils to that rq
and somehow magically outrun divisions so that i overrun them without getting pinned by 200k troops
winged glacier
my worst save i have gotten myself into was as spain vs the entire world being with allies
ivory kelp
"Sir they are right outside Berlin"
"Who are"
"The Danes sir"
winged glacier
"Sir they are right outside Berlin"
"Who are"
"The Danes sir"
why is russia and poland in berlin
ivory kelp
alone against the world
winged glacier
oh its allies
ivory kelp
winged glacier
damn hows ur pc not cooked
clear dagger
ivory kelp
9700X (cpu)
winged glacier
mine gets cooked at 1944 against bc china n jap have 4k total units
ivory kelp
mine gets cooked at 1944 against bc china n jap have 4k total units
its 1948 😭
i get 1 frame per sometimes
winged glacier
ah
ripe slate
i get 1 frame per sometimes
Isnt that just the autosave though
winged glacier
Isnt that just the autosave though
no
the game gets incredibly laggy lategame if ur pc aint god itself
ripe slate
I know but still, literal 1 FPS usually only happens during autosave
winged glacier
its a bit exagerated
uncut pollen
the game gets incredibly laggy lategame if ur pc aint god itself
True
ripe slate
My PC is pretty solid, 1 hour to 1948 if I don't pause or slow down
ivory kelp
i keep getting reinforce memed out of every single tile
winged glacier
My PC is pretty solid, 1 hour to 1948 if I don't pause or slow down
heuh
ivory kelp
what.
winged glacier
i keep getting reinforce memed out of every single tile
uhm
ivory kelp
how do you obtain such power
winged glacier
yeah thats the issue
maybe get some charismatic traits
on ur divs
not divs
gens
ivory kelp
and my manpower is running so low
ivory kelp
maybe get some charismatic traits
i did
winged glacier
and my manpower is running so low
yeah fall back
ivory kelp
and signal company to everything
winged glacier
you cant push them
ivory kelp
my navy is literally carrying
25% shore bombardment bonus
lowk good kdr 💀
i might honestly have to give myself cores on some german territories or my run is cooked
winged glacier
i might honestly have to give myself cores on some german territories or my run ...
its not cooked
ivory kelp
my manpower issue is solved by getting one core state
winged glacier
i dont see a single tank
snow rain
my manpower issue is solved by getting one core state
pick your doctrines bro
you have 500 xp everywhere but doctrines to pick
ivory kelp
pick your doctrines bro
you have 500 xp everywhere but doctrines to pick
its just special forces stuff
snow rain
radio out there serving no purpose 😭
ivory kelp
radio out there serving no purpose 😭
i need the reinforce rate my man
snow rain
add medium flame tank instead
ivory kelp
i alr maxed my marine ones?
winged glacier
i alr maxed my marine ones?
max mountaneers aswell
ivory kelp
it doesnt rlly help (according to my experience not the spreadsheets)
snow rain
i alr maxed my marine ones?
each doctrine gives 10% sf attack when you complete the last branch
winged glacier
or whatever else
ivory kelp
should i replace the mech with rangers or keep it
winged glacier
it doesnt rlly help (according to my experience not the spreadsheets)
its a lot of attack-
and special forces capability
winged glacier
should i replace the mech with rangers or keep it
definetly replace
mbe not rangers
tho
snow rain
i need the reinforce rate my man
I'm sure you don't
AI doesn't have nearly enough stats to punch you out quick enough
your divs are also too bg, that's a 40width div I'm looking at, which is the reason you might have reinforcing issues
bring it down to 36width, do your radio techs (electronics) and watch your issue disapear
winged glacier
mech are useless in a div that has a unit that isnt faster than 4
snow rain
mech are useless in a div that has a unit that isnt faster than 4
that's simply not true
winged glacier
that's simply not true
hm
snow rain
mech has high HP, high defence and hardness
snow rain
isnt that optimal
oh yeah, I can't count apparently
winged glacier
mech has high HP, high defence and hardness
ok but it also brings some debuffs in terrain
ivory kelp
its fine
snow rain
ok but it also brings some debuffs in terrain
doesn't matter much, the debuffs are like 5% more in forests than marines
and there's the elephant in the room in the form of heavy SPG
ivory kelp
so i get rangers...?
snow rain
get medium flame tank, replace the radio with it and it'll be better
misty fossil
can you rush supersonic jet as the us
snow rain
so i get rangers...?
if you have full ranger doctrine it's good
ivory kelp
if you have full ranger doctrine it's good
do i replace all mech with it or what idk
snow rain
do you have mountaineers with doctrine as well ?
ivory kelp
uhh
snow rain
just yes or no
snow rain
then do something like this with your SPGs that replace either some marines or rangers
if your sf cap allows it though
snow rain
and don't forget AA because this is a green air template
ivory kelp
this?
snow rain
i thought rangers were better in the new update so
they are, but mountaineers paired with rangers is currently the best SF template you can get
ivory kelp
il replace the radio when i finish researching
snow rain
this?
you might not need this many marines. Reduce their numbers (replace by rangers) until landing penality is down to +50%, if it's already lower then you can leave them
although I don't see why you need marines in a land warfare scenario
snow rain
I'd replace everything but the SPG with rangers tbf, and then pioneers with engineers (as it only buffs landing and marines)
ivory kelp
you might not need this many marines. Reduce their numbers (replace by rangers) ...
i used marines cause i needed to add more combat with with naval invasions cause pushing out of denmark into germany was impossible with only 2 tiles
i thought that would help
misty fossil
feels the aura
snow rain
bro what is this 😭
thy'"re preparing a naval invasion
misty fossil
you should encircle them
ivory kelp
you should encircle them
il try
misty fossil
like just naval invade the next two tiles, then pin that stack while you encircle it
tender cedar
misty fossil
what
ivory kelp
idk why but the ai isnt putting ships out anymore
and its not like they dont have any left
tender cedar
Am i become better?
south mountain
they are, but mountaineers paired with rangers is currently the best SF template...
Are you french?
snow rain
yes
agile perch
hi is there any good Germany tutorials
agile perch
bittersteel made one a month or 2 ago
idk about you but i cant follow his
idk i might just be shit at the game but i cant understand anything from it
ivory kelp
do you have any dlcs?
agile perch
yes
misty fossil
bruh
agile perch
i got all of them
misty fossil
lol
south mountain
idk i might just be shit at the game but i cant understand anything from it
I recommend Italy
Very easy and makes you learn all aspects of the game
snow rain
I highly doubt the very easy part
south mountain
I highly doubt the very easy part
Or Romania, you have a focus that can change sides if you lose
snow rain
USA, sov, can, hungary and germany are the best new player picks
agile perch
Very easy and makes you learn all aspects of the game
i got like 400 hours but i only played finland and just learned something idk
snow rain
of course, always on historical
agile perch
😭
ivory kelp
dude what is that flag
kingdom of denmark
agile perch
are u from denmark by any chance
misty fossil
rip encirclement
thats fine just battleplan
agile perch
ok
misty fossil
if you can somehow reinforce meme 80 divs i think you can just roll them over
ivory kelp
if you can somehow reinforce meme 80 divs i think you can just roll them over
yeah but my equipment...
misty fossil
denmark is in asia
ivory kelp
if you can somehow reinforce meme 80 divs i think you can just roll them over
🤡
river crossing btw
ivory kelp
- fort
agile perch
idk alot abt this game but is that 2.8k Soft attack
ivory kelp
wdym
ivory kelp
will this work tho
misty fossil
try it
agile perch
will this work tho
wtf is going on
ivory kelp
realistic game btw
ivory kelp
wtf is going on
alone against the world
ivory kelp
i dont think i have enough divs to hold this position tho
yeah i do not have enough divisions
2 divs per tile ;-;
should i do this or fall back even more
????
million dollar game company btw
apparently convots can walk on land now
safe wing
How many mods you have installed? Because I never seen this happen on my end
snow rain
should i do this or fall back even more
you can save up divs on your garrisons
garrison ports first, if you aren't filling the combat width on the port tile, there's absolutely no reason to hold the flanks
place 2 36w pure inf with support arty, aa, engi on each port and you'll be fine. Everything else can be ditched
ivory kelp
i dont rlly wana go through the pain of cleaning up invasions every other day
ivory kelp
place 2 36w pure inf with support arty, aa, engi on each port and you'll be fine...
il try
snow rain
if they try to land, you just put those two divs in a new army and keep using last stand until you get reinforcements and kill the divs on the flank
free casuality farming
ivory kelp
How many mods you have installed? Because I never seen this happen on my end
fps map, alone against the world, building slots expansion
and i think a few more misc mods
ivory kelp
free casuality farming
does the empty port trick still work
or did the ai get smarter
snow rain
still works
ivory kelp
kinda cheesey tho
snow rain
but you have an active frontline so it won't work as well
ivory kelp
and should i fall back from sweden
snow rain
why
snow rain
hold the supply hubs and you'll be fine
ivory kelp
its eating up a ton of garrison manpwer and divisions
snow rain
make the enemy attrition
ivory kelp
aight
snow rain
this looks like it's easy to hold
heavy vigil
denmark OP
misty fossil
Is this guy playing ragnarok denmark
Give me a good country that has range focused mio
heavy vigil
Give me a good country that has range focused mio
chile
misty fossil
im not touching chile
heavy vigil
chile
heavy vigil
you get one of those
misty fossil
you get one of those
One of those what
heavy vigil
you get a navy yes
misty fossil
i mean naval mios
misty fossil
you get a navy yes
does chile get naval mios
vague abyss
Alright guys so uhh
the soviets have launched an offensive, I have killed over 1M men in encirclements
ivory kelp
Give me a good country that has range focused mio
itably 🤡
ivory kelp
the soviets have launched an offensive, I have killed over 1M men in encirclemen...
"rookie numbers"
ivory kelp
played italy like 5 times excluding all the restarts
denmark 🤡
vague abyss
ivory kelp
trust
vague abyss
they did operation bagratian
ivory kelp
benelux
misty fossil
"rookie numbers"
feels the aura
heavy vigil
does chile get naval mios
yes
vague abyss
I had the stalin line secured
misty fossil
ok i might try chile
vague abyss
I got pushed, they did the courland pocket on me but I reclaimed it
misty fossil
child
ivory kelp
child is meta in america bro
misty fossil
i played america 10 times
ivory kelp
"amarica"
surreal urchin
misty fossil
ask me anythingrica
vague abyss
misty fossil
Disrespecting mods
surreal urchin
i played america 10 times
slovakia
ivory kelp
ask me anythingrica
play indipendent state of croatia by releasing as italy and retaining core states and form austria hungary
misty fossil
sheep?
misty fossil
oh hell no
misty fossil
feels the aura x2
ivory kelp
wtf
misty fossil
mods this guys showing swastika
snow rain
I remember it going up to 300+ millions as I pushed into china
snow rain
mods this guys showing swastika
indeed, forgor
ivory kelp
i didnt even know japan had 18 million men
vague abyss
have to do operation save italy tho
misty fossil
c*mmunist fr*ance
vague abyss
they aint
snow rain
there, better now
ivory kelp
there, better now
china major???
misty fossil
there, better now
2018 hoi is so cursed
snow rain
old UI hits hard too
vague abyss
im gonna deploy more dday wall troops
ivory kelp
is promoting to field marshall worth the stats
surreal urchin
WHY DIDNT IT SURRENDER
ivory kelp
THEN WHY ARE THEY THE LEADERS OF THE ALLIES
????
vague abyss
THEN WHY ARE THEY THE LEADERS OF THE ALLIES
idk vro
surreal urchin
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING INTHERE
ivory kelp
wait what
snow rain
china major???
well, yeah it 1950 in a game version where china annexed all warlords in early 1937 for free from the united front event
vague abyss
btw I got auturkey achieved 💀
snow rain
before waking the tiger DLC
vague abyss
they aren't can u stop larping
ivory kelp
how do you even kill that many men bro
260 million
and you havent even pushed that far into ussr
snow rain
how do you even kill that many men bro
there was endless waves of enemies
I remember pocketting about 300-500 divs in norway
vague abyss
so generals what do I do about operation bagratian
wide osprey
BagratiOn 🙂
ivory kelp
minsk pocket
ivory kelp
noo they ran
vague abyss
successful
snow rain
civs not building 💔
vague abyss
time to reclaim the stalin line
vague abyss
guys eastory got terminated?
ivory kelp
i think it was in france
snow rain
this armour will cook
why hard attack
icy jetty
hi, i returned to this game after 5-6 years and i dont understand anything, help pls xd
i lost my 2 runs with sovielts and germany
vague abyss
why hard attack
sheeps
snow rain
right
vague abyss
cmon stalin line
snow rain
then you need to max out armor for breakthrough and use radio
vague abyss
d day wall looking fire
echo flume
hi, i returned to this game after 5-6 years and i dont understand anything, help...
Nobody does
vague abyss
then you need to max out armor for breakthrough and use radio
yeah radios i know but yeahh
its usually my MP build for france sorry
damn marsh
booom
quasi osprey
This should be tito's portrait in hoi4
slim nexus
Assalamu alaykum
ivory kelp
PLEASE research bro
solid prairie
ivory kelp
afk for 2 weeks then check back
vague abyss
so moscow or stalingrad
ivory kelp
moskow
solid prairie
so moscow or stalingrad
both at the same time
snow rain
so moscow or stalingrad
what kind of question is that
vague abyss
both at the same time
I can only do one operation at a time
misty fossil
This should be tito's portrait in hoi4<:KEKW:751015759257272391>
Why is he enjoying a succulent bar of chocolate
snow rain
you aren't filling the combat width on ports, then why hold the empty coastline ?
misty fossil
bro doesnt have any heavy tanks
quasi osprey
Why is he enjoying a succulent bar of chocolate
Why not he looks so serious in the hoi4 portrait
misty fossil
Because
vague abyss
you aren't filling the combat width on ports, then why hold the empty coastline ...
they stopped the attack dw
vague abyss
bro doesnt have any heavy tanks
my tanks were in paris
icy jetty
Nobody does
i swear i almost destroyed my computer whn trying to manage the navi, its terrible i dont understand shit
vague abyss
i had another 48 divs in training, they're deployed now anyway
also its winter in the east im kinda stuck
vague abyss
ffs italy
icy jetty
unemployment final boss flexing hoi4 naval battles
ivory kelp
unemployment final boss flexing hoi4 naval battles
denmark on top
echo flume
i swear i almost destroyed my computer whn trying to manage the navi, its terrib...
Navy is useless if youre a minor
icy jetty
Navy is useless if youre a minor
i was germany xd
echo flume
Its only useful for naval invasions
ivory kelp
||me not playing denmark||
ivory kelp
how
spam light attack cruisers
top row 2 light battery+2secondary battery
put lv2 armor
so ai small ships cant pierce you
pastel urchin
its so fun
vague abyss
idk depends
misty fossil
its easier if you play japan
idk ive seen people having to capture every single chinese vp to win but idk how that happened
never seen it
i just do 2 collabs then roll them over
doesnt even need to release reorganised china
technically you can just do 1 collab then use senbu/east asian prosperity garrison order
mystic nest
infantry only goes hard
took 20k more casualties for this
Special forces are basically tanks
ivory kelp
this is why i hate vanilla navy
vanilla navy is just spam one design and hope the rng doesnt fyou up
mystic nest
vanilla navy is just spam one design and hope the rng doesnt fyou up
light cruiser carrier bb spam goes hard
mystic nest
i mean you dont even need rng
yeah
ive just done three uk playthroughs
i didnt need to construct a single new ship
it was stupid
the british starting navy is enough for wc
ivory kelp
well when your fighting the bs of a navy called "all country navy smashed into one deathstack" you do
mystic nest
more than enough
misty fossil
play vanilla navy rework bro
ivory kelp
i looked away from my air stuff for a year or so
misty fossil
peak low cortisol gameplay
misty fossil
being reinforced
mystic nest
encircled one hunded and fifty soviet divisions in one encirclement
this is beautiful
misty fossil
yeah every icon in this game has a tooltip
mystic nest
they deathstacked all their inf divs in belarus and got smashed
ivory kelp
do i stack breakthrough on flame tanks or what
misty fossil
my highest casualties in a single encirclement is 2.76m
mystic nest
do i stack breakthrough on flame tanks or what
yes
ivory kelp
kk
mystic nest
my highest casualties in a single encirclement is 2.76m
this one got me like 1.5mil
pretty nice
theres literally nothing left on their frontline to encircle bruh this is the last one im doing
ivory kelp
mystic nest
the state of the soviet frontline
ivory kelp
is this ok (idk how to make flame tanks)
mystic nest
divs?? what are those
mystic nest
thats not even set to a flame tank and it doesnt have a flamethrower
mystic nest
push up armor ticks it gives free break
mystic nest
the soviets had 13 thousand planes at the start of the war
this is 2 months in
i LOVE special forces
patent estuary
you annihilated the soviet air force
mystic nest
you annihilated the soviet air force
and their army
ivory kelp
should i add mech to my defensive inf (i have a shit ton of excess mech and tiny manpower) or make tanks for space marines
patent estuary
and their army
how bad
mystic nest
ivory kelp
for armor meme
mystic nest
the kdr is a bit skewed
misty fossil
mystic nest
beautiful
patent estuary
the kdr is a bit skewed
when did you start the war?
mystic nest
should i add mech to my defensive inf (i have a shit ton of excess mech and tiny...
no just make tank divs
patent estuary
2 months ago
damnnn what year?
patent estuary
i actually like the UK tbh
mystic nest
its boring
you train up 3 armies of 18w divs
throw them into france
germany never makes it past belgium
win the war
done
patent estuary
exactly, i also think poland is fun
mystic nest
put your entire fleet in the pacfiic so japan cant invade a single island when they declare
so the pacific war for uk is also super boring
patent estuary
tbh i sometimes forget my navy
ivory kelp
is logistic strike worth the ic
mystic nest
is logistic strike worth the ic
not against the ai
they cant handle their logistics anyway
patent estuary
mystic nest
they deathstack 30 divs on a tile and logistic strike themselves
lost dawn
Yugo was my puppet. They then, somehow, instantly became independent and joined a faction with Bulgaria after which they immediately were turned into a puppet by austria.
patent estuary
lol very awesome of yugo
patent estuary
Austrian POLAND??
mystic nest
Yugo was my puppet. They then, somehow, instantly became independent and joined ...
yeah its cooked
patent estuary
bro what is Austria doing??
mystic nest
in my current game france turned communist and joined the allies
lost dawn
yeah its cooked
Do you realise how cooked I am now?
mystic nest
then democratic france started a civil war while we were fighting the soviets so democratic france is in comintern and communist france is in nato
patent estuary
in my current game france turned communist and joined the allies
99% of my playthroughs half the world goes communist
mystic nest
Do you realise how cooked I am now?
rip
mystic nest
99% of my playthroughs half the world goes communist
on non historical yeah but im playing historical
patent estuary
on non historical yeah but im playing historical
I like non historical, brings more fun to the game
lost dawn
I guess my best choice is to retreat towards Genova and Bologna....
ivory kelp
lost dawn
Set up a line there
mystic nest
i play it sometimes but i prefer historical
ivory kelp
what the actual hell
modest grail
playing as japan whats the right time to challenge the USA
ivory kelp
how does this have 1k soft
ripe slate
welcome Ducko and Cynicalyz
mystic nest
thats some crazy stats for a 24w div with shit support companies for offense lol
ivory kelp
thats some crazy stats for a 24w div with shit support companies for offense lol
theyr meant for defense
patent estuary
<:Cat_Sip:1471689132655775907> welcome Ducko and Cynicalyz
thanks
ivory kelp
meta slaves 🗣️ 🚿
patent estuary
I dont even follow meta for divs, try not to at least lol
ivory kelp
i honestly dont understand the dmg calculation for vanilla now
how does one get 1.1k soft...?
mystic nest
but.. my ten thousand soft attack spg divs..
ivory kelp
what.
patent estuary
but.. my ten thousand soft attack spg divs..
your WHAT
mystic nest
how does one get 1.1k soft...?
its not hard its just weird that those templates have it
ivory kelp
how
mystic nest
spgs!!
ivory kelp
HOW
patent estuary
yeah fair SPG moment
mystic nest
spgs
ivory kelp
the most i got was 4k
mystic nest
spgs make the game boring anyway thats why i use inf only
they just roll through ai divs like they dont exist
ripe slate
I like to ignore air instead but follow template meta
mystic nest
tbh this div also works like a tank div except it can fight in jungles mountains across rivers and in areas with shit supply
patent estuary
very nice
mystic nest
tbh this div also works like a tank div except it can fight in jungles mountains...
under red air too
but i dont usually have red air unless if i just ignore the air force
patent estuary
I like to ignore air instead but follow template meta
Who needs fighters when you have CAS
lost dawn
ripe slate
Starting king of-
ripe slate
i would genuinely rather play switzerland than italy
Heresy, Italy is quite fun
mystic nest
Heresy, Italy is quite fun
if i wanted to play italy i would just play the uk
lost dawn
Heresy, Italy is quite fun
Very much untrue
mystic nest
its the same thing but you do more stuff
lost dawn
Not when my puppets are being stolen by Austria for no bloody reason
mystic nest
<:haHaa:911393398211117107>
beautiful
ripe slate
I like rushing Rome
atomic grove
Yugo was my puppet. They then, somehow, instantly became independent and joined ...
austria cant be that hard to kill
ripe slate
or making a mega faction in the Balkans
lost dawn
austria cant be that hard to kill
It is not just Austria though...
ripe slate
Italy can have like all the Balkans in a faction by 1938
atomic grove
I like rushing Rome
i havent tried forming rome in a very long time
lost dawn
atomic grove
It is not just Austria though...
yeah
lost dawn
💀
mystic nest
howr u going like 1:1.5 kdr against the ai
atomic grove
cant be that hard
mystic nest
less
lost dawn
howr u going like 1:1.5 kdr against the ai
Being overrun tends to do that
mystic nest
cooked
lost dawn
I lost several unites retreating to my current positions
lost dawn
js kill yugo
Yugo was my puppet.
atomic grove
I lost several unites retreating to my current positions
retrain
lost dawn
I have yet to process what happened
lost dawn
HOW
lost dawn
How did they puppet Yugo
lost dawn
This is some bullshit...
ivory kelp
"bro i dont even invest that much into navy"
atomic grove
This is some bullshit...
yk how yugo is stacking a ton of divs at zadar
u have to abandon zadar for a bit
mystic nest
Its not looking too hot for the soviets
atomic grove
so they stop stacking
mystic nest
atomic grove
isnt commonwealth of nations just democratic imperial federation
lost dawn
yk how yugo is stacking a ton of divs at zadar
This game is already messed up
Not worth continuing
mystic nest
"bro i dont even invest that much into navy"
play on the beta
mystic nest
isnt commonwealth of nations just democratic imperial federation
yes
ivory kelp
is there a way to get more manpower from occupied territories
atomic grove
This game is already messed up
bro austria and the others cant be that hard to kill
mystic nest
is there a way to get more manpower from occupied territories
no
atomic grove
just raise ur conscription
mystic nest
unless if you mean puppets
ivory kelp
fuuuuuuuuuuu
clear dagger
"bro i dont even invest that much into navy"
"what if Hitler heeded Grand Admiral Thrawn's advice?"
ivory kelp
where do i push now
lost dawn
bro austria and the others cant be that hard to kill
Meh
I have been getting unlucky all day
ivory kelp
and should i release germany as puppet
atomic grove
I have been getting unlucky all day
play denmark
mystic nest
where do i push now
some juicy encirclements
ivory kelp
to save on manpower
lost dawn
play denmark
First my luck ended here.
ivory kelp
some juicy encirclements
where
lost dawn
that was the game I had yesterday
atomic grove
First my luck ended here.
abandon territory if u cant even hold it
atomic grove
keep north africa and the levant though
lost dawn
Just great
lost dawn
In truth. It is worthless advice
mystic nest
abandon non core territory
js release as puppet
ivory kelp
everywhere hey have like 300 divs in that screenshot
i need defensible terrain
do i swing to rotterdam or
mystic nest
i need defensible terrain
arent you on the offense?
lost dawn
try to take back occitania
No.
ivory kelp
arent you on the offense?
well yes but my manpower
atomic grove
I will just abandon this game for a few days
fair
mystic nest
well yes but my manpower
what is it and what conscription law
ivory kelp
what is it and what conscription law
400k service by req
mystic nest
400k service by req
what country is this
ivory kelp
what country is this
denmark.
lost dawn
ur current map
I deleted my units
mystic nest
400k is bad thats more than enough to go on the offense
if you have the right div templates
isnt
lost dawn
I am honestly a bit sick of this game now.
atomic grove
I deleted my units
u did that deliberately
lost dawn
u did that deliberately
Yes
ivory kelp
if you have the right div templates
30 of these
(will switch radio out for flame tanks soon)
mystic nest
30 of these
thats prolly good enough
just encircle
if you pull back to defend youll just lose the mp war
lost dawn
u did that deliberately
This... is not even worth trying anymore
ivory kelp
bro its service by req alr ;-;
mystic nest
This... is not even worth trying anymore
thats not bad
ivory kelp
my industry
mystic nest
bro its service by req alr ;-;
aas is not ideal but itll work in a pinch
atomic grove
This... is not even worth trying anymore
abandon piedmont
since u cant even hold the alps
so i dont think youll be able to hold piedmont either
lost dawn
thats not bad
Yugo was my puppet. I was building factories in their territory to annex them. Suddenly they just become independent for no bloody reason and join a faction and a few days after that they became a puppet of Austria
With such RNG... how can this game be fun
mystic nest
Yugo was my puppet. I was building factories in their territory to annex them. S...
still not bad just cap them you're italy
atomic grove
Yugo was my puppet. I was building factories in their territory to annex them. S...
oh yeah they can do that
they didnt update yugo
lost dawn
oh yeah they can do that
That is bullshit
lost dawn
It is absolute trash
mystic nest
oh wait
atomic grove
what templates r u using
mystic nest
hes allied with the soviets
why did you ragequit this brother 😭
italy and the soviets against poland and the balkans
you roll them bruh
lost dawn
its still winnable
Ok. So. Austria declared the war against me. So I pushed into Tirol and took some territory there before they could put more units in. Then... they, without warning, ANNEX SWITZERLAND and outflank my lines
atomic grove
why did you ragequit this brother 😭
probably the most winnable disaster save ive seen yet
mystic nest
probably the most winnable disaster save ive seen yet <:haHaa:911393398211117107...
its not even a disaster save
its just a regular game
lost dawn
italy and the soviets against poland and the balkans
A soviet union that is in a civil war and losing?
atomic grove
its not even a disaster save
he ragequit bc he couldnt save it so technically it counts as
lost dawn
And does not even have a border with poland?
atomic grove
A soviet union that is in a civil war and losing?
they are still a distraction
mystic nest
A soviet union that is in a civil war and losing?
yes mate
youre italy bruh this should be a cakewalk even solo
lost dawn
he ragequit bc he couldnt save it so technically it counts as
I ragequit because the game has been throwing these kind of situations in my face all day. You get tired when RNG is constantly against you.
mystic nest
multiple spears is certainly a choice
atomic grove
invade frankfurt and the rhineland
atomic grove
I ragequit because the game has been throwing these kind of situations in my fac...
but dude this is quite winnable
u r literally italy
i assume u have good templates
hopefully
mystic nest
soviets started with an estimated 450-650 divs ive destroyed like 300 soviet divs
its hilarious
lost dawn
i assume u have good templates
I use relatively standard 7, 2s.
I would love to use tanks.... but nobody has good templates for me.
mystic nest
I use relatively standard 7, 2s.
line artillery??
mystic nest
I would love to use tanks.... but nobody has good templates for me.
#ask-for-help-here literally has templates pinned
if you asked anyone in here theyd tell you that
🥀
atomic grove
I would love to use tanks.... but nobody has good templates for me.
use improved howitzer
as the turret
lost dawn
use improved howitzer
I am not talking about the tank design.
mystic nest
they have div templates too
atomic grove
I am not talking about the tank design.
mountaineers + tanks
12 mountaineer bats and 6 tank bats
btw go for the one mountaineer doctrine that lowers combat width
lost dawn
You wanted the 1944 italy game?
atomic grove
You wanted the 1944 italy game?
ur italian industry cant be that bad
u should have enough mils to efficiently mass produce tanks by 1940
theres no way u dont
lost dawn
theres no way u dont
What do you want to see.
atomic grove
What do you want to see.
u tried italy twice?
mystic nest
happiest italy player
lost dawn
u tried italy twice?
3 times actually. 2nd time Ethiopia refused to surrender so I restarted the game.
mystic nest
What do you want to see.
your mp is gone
lost dawn
your mp is gone
MP?
lost dawn
Ah
atomic grove
ur screwed on that one
winged glacier
Ok. So. Austria declared the war against me. So I pushed into Tirol and took som...
in what mod is austria and switzerland a threat
atomic grove
How should I fix this
increase conscription law for manpower
winged glacier
or is this multiplayer
mystic nest
in what mod is austria and switzerland a threat
im terrified of the crack eight austrian inf/militia divs
atomic grove
abandon anatolia
mystic nest
or is this multiplayer
its vanilla mate
atomic grove
abandon iberia
winged glacier
im terrified of the crack eight austrian inf/militia divs
what nation u playing
mystic nest
what nation u playing
im joking
winged glacier
italy?
atomic grove
but keep gibraltar and the tiles around it
mystic nest
its not my game
lost dawn
abandon iberia
I am not abandoning all of my recent gains
atomic grove
keep north africa
atomic grove
I am not abandoning all of my recent gains
u cant hold it
u could keep iberia
but i dont think u can hold anatolia
lost dawn
u cant hold it
They should not even have been able to push me out of Romania
ivory kelp
what are these numbers
mystic nest
what are these numbers
infantry only btw
atomic grove
yeah u cant hold it
lost dawn
With supplies
mystic nest
not a single tank in my battlelines
ivory kelp
not a single tank in my battlelines
how'
atomic grove
u should have tanks by now def
lost dawn
stop using line arty
atomic grove
also consolidate ur divisions
atomic grove
consolidate ur divisions
and delete some of ur divisions
abandon anatolia and iberia
u genuinely cannot hold those
lost dawn
also why tf r u using light tanks in 1944
I am not.
I had some light tank divisions that I parked on the frontline while trying to mop up an encirclement
More for decoration that fighting
Since all of my other divisions were understrength
atomic grove
focus on north africa, italy, and greece
lost dawn
then delete them they give you mp back
The manpower you would get from those 3 divisions is not worth deleting them
atomic grove
keep greece, it has some resources
mystic nest
The manpower you would get from those 3 divisions is not worth deleting them
theyre useless might as well delete it
they sit there soaking up supply and doing nothing
lost dawn
they sit there soaking up supply and doing nothing
Supply means nothing anymore anyways.
mystic nest
???
lost dawn
Since even with supply my units were, somehow, unable to hold a river.
atomic grove
The manpower you would get from those 3 divisions is not worth deleting them
ur saying u would rather have decorative divisions that do nothing than give supplies and equipment to ur divs that are actually doing stuff
mystic nest
Since even with supply my units were, somehow, unable to hold a river.
that means your units are understrength / not enough equipment or had a shit template
an 18w inf div will hold like a brick wall across a river
atomic grove
can i please have the save download
lost dawn
can i please have the save download
Where do I get that one from
lost dawn
atomic grove
<:nicebro:1054028891968253963>
search up how to access ur hoi4 saves
lost dawn
Why do you even want it
lost dawn
i wanna see what i can do with it
This is what I had before the war in spain
distant knoll
search up how to access ur hoi4 saves
its in documents
lost dawn
the units on the borders were at full strength