hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

sorry im trying to figure out something in EAW kill off serbia

[patent thistle]

serbia exists now again in like one state

gave kosovo to albania

[fair horizon]

y tho

[patent thistle]

bulgarian "navy"

[fair horizon]

"bulgarian" "navy"

[patent thistle]

hey its bulgarian to the most part

[fair horizon]

isnt the Elli greek?

[patent thistle]

i said to the most part

the shitty battleship is bulgarian together with 2 of the heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers and a bunch of destroyers

[cold frigate]

am i cooked?

[fair horizon]

yeah you gave half of france to italy

[cold frigate]

he took like 3 provinces in the south and got half of it

[fair horizon]

never invite italy to that war

[patent thistle]

rip hungary btw, you tried, and failed misserably

[cold frigate]

IK I MISCLICKED😭

[fair horizon]

just another austrian puppet

[patent thistle]

dw austria usally dies when the czechs revolt

which leads to an illyrian revolt

[cold frigate]

what do i do now

[lethal ether]

war

[crude field]

best country to play in kaiserreich

?

[patent thistle]

cope?

[crude field]

mald?

[cold frigate]

its 1942

[cold frigate]

???

[opal nymph]

I enjoy playing the US

Russia very fun

[patent thistle]

russia

[lethal ether]

war

[opal nymph]

Russia rolls over everything

[lethal ether]

luxembourg

[opal nymph]

Unless it's AI Russia, then it's a gamble

[opal nymph]

Is it even a tag?

[lethal ether]

idk lol

[crude field]

what does tag mean

[patent thistle]

if that succeeds i am laughing my ass off

[crude field]

does ireland have a focus tree kaiserreich

[patent thistle]

the key question is what nation doesnt have a focus tree in kaiserreich

heck costa rica even has one

[lethal ether]

the

[sudden thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shaking-head-tongue-out

[fair horizon]

sampi

[patent thistle]

the fact that serbia has this path is funny as hell

[opal nymph]

Yes

[fallen hearth]

ww1 ahh scenario

[ember vine]

Guess which joke of a country ruined my hoofin it achievement game

🇶🇦

[fallen hearth]

poland flag

[ember vine]

I had it but no they had to stick with communist uk

[ember vine]

Dont make me even more mad this game already is a pain in my ass

[lethal ether]

bosnia?

[ember vine]

I'm going to make paradox regret making this game I swear

[woeful cape]

is this good enough to fight late game allies

[patent thistle]

haha, wrong, you forgot italy being a backstabber for dalmatia

[fallen hearth]

ong

[patent thistle]

what? aint it true?

[lost nymph]

I dunno what but I only can see my own units now and this is total crap to plan anything. I only can see the 3d models. dafuq?

[sudden thistle]

click the dude

under the eye

or plane symbol

[lost nymph]

yeh found it

[patent thistle]

try my chetniks i dare you

I ACTUALLY MADE IT

LOL

love that germany doesnt even try to object my presidency of mitteleuropa

[warm falcon]

i think germany is scared and doesnt wanna attack me

ah nvm

we have a non-aggressive pact xD

[warm falcon]

the italian civil war before italy is defeated doesnt make any sense

its so shit

[viscid mason]

Is this post necessary?

[restive sable]

just posting anything

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-episode-3-3o84sq21TxDH6PyYms

dam you russia

[fathom shard]

best mountaineers btw

[safe wing]

time to play until 1948 😫

two achivements in 1

might go fascist pro Germany so I can get the UK

so 3 achivements in 1

[fair horizon]

WRONG that isnt a landcruiser div

[patent thistle]

i could be a b and just say "you all want the arms experts? nah we actually do my plan" 🤣

https://giphy.com/gifs/democracy-ucXFcY1FdKaT6

[young lake]

I love the great war redux 🥹 ✌️

Except when Germany somehow hasn't pushed passed Belgium and its 1915 💔

[fair horizon]

weakest historical belgian

[restive sable]

what achievements you going for?

what path

[young lake]

Oml the Germans are being pushed back...

I cant even send divs to help because Italy joined the war

Actually why is Germany being so useless this game

[patent thistle]

turkey, are you sure you want to do that?

after just having been destroyed by the cairo pact?

[fair horizon]

them mark 4s are pushing back

[fair horizon]

ottoman empire*

[patent thistle]

wouldnt really put that under the name empire

but you do you

[restive sable]

they seem pretty sure to me

[young lake]

Literally only France, Belgium and uk holding the lines 😔 HOW ARE THEY NOT PUSHINGGGG

IM LITERALLY HOLDING THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN FRONT 😭

WAIT FINALLY, THE BELGIANS CAPPED 😭

[patent thistle]

yeah, what did they expect would happen?

[fair horizon]

CONSTANTINOPLE LETS GOOOOO

[patent thistle]

oh, hell, no, you aint getting away just yet turkey.

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-dude-laugh-the-clown-dr-reasons-gif-3745936416528146845

turkey tryna get an easy win just to lose constantinople

genius

[young lake]

God I hate the Italians

[patent thistle]

yep

ah yes declear on my puppet states totally makes your situation better turkey

[fair horizon]

blow up their navy

[patent thistle]

they died too fast

brought my tanks over

you decide

[fair horizon]

oh thats a cool flag

keep them

[patent thistle]

eh keeping them is annoying

kaiserreich adds 40 resistance to every territory you cant core

for some reason

[night lintel]

i think brazil doesn't like me

[fair horizon]

can you puppet them?

[patent thistle]

thats what the decision does

turkey or ottomans?

[fair horizon]

turkey

[atomic grove]

republic

[patent thistle]

fate of this small territory?

[fair horizon]

give to turkey

[patent thistle]

turkey, split it, or greece?

[fair horizon]

agean to greece

woah

[patent thistle]

greece, turkey or a cyprus puppet?

[fair horizon]

greece

[patent thistle]

man what have you done-

new bulgarian fleet

[young lake]

Austrian carry fr

[patent thistle]

(still mostly bulgarian)

[patent thistle]

more like germans and romanians

[young lake]

Rahhhh

[young lake]

Germany stalled in Belgium and never recovered in 1914

[fair horizon]

[patent thistle]

i unironically own an empire-

[patent thistle]

my balkan rival in my game is unironically austria rn

[plain isle]

if anyone here has hella gameplay footage i would really appreciate the opportunity to edit a full yt style video with said footage, not looking to get any money from this just want practice and exposure fr

[patent thistle]

i dispise that unit limit. -_-

all i have is not even 2 full infantry armies and 12 tanks

[upbeat tundra]

nice job germany

[trim lotus]

It always amuses me a bit to go through, sell foreign equipment at the end of the war, and realize "wait, wasn't this my aircraft?" Sold, looted, sold again.

[patent thistle]

who are you playing?

[upbeat tundra]

argentina

[patent thistle]

what path did you do?

[upbeat tundra]

modded one with hitler cause im too poor

[patent thistle]

same i just tend to use my friends account

[fair horizon]

not modded at all ✅

[faint fiber]

it clearly is

[fair horizon]

nuh uh

[patent thistle]

anyways time to get ready for austria

[iron iron]

Does Finland or Norway have a custom focus tree without DLCs

[lethal willow]

God save the King

[knotty oyster]

what if theyre all 1936 destroyers 🤔

[patent thistle]

only 560 ships as the UK? you should be ashamed.

[lethal willow]

I stole them all from Japan and France 😡

[patent thistle]

bro just exposed himself

[knotty oyster]

okay but how do we know they arent just french and japanese 1936 destroyers

[lethal willow]

True...

Their not I swear

[patent thistle]

.

[lethal willow]

😭

[young lake]

I GENUIUENLY hate Germany in this campain.

[knotty oyster]

is hoi4 navy just

spamming light cruisers and shbbs and calling it a day

[patent thistle]

i like to switch it up with battlecruisers and carriers

[high vector]

this a mod?

[eternal aspen]

shi

[high vector]

light cruisers are excessive even, you can get away with just destroyers

[eternal aspen]

i cannot let bro win

i'm west russia

ofc Finland didn't lemme take post-winter war lands

other than petsamo

[young lake]

FINALLY

The French front was so deadly 😭

Encircled a million in Russia, a million in Italy. But France 😭

France was hell

France is looking pretty good

[fair horizon]

uh oh

CHAT I MESSED UP

its not looking so good

im actually only 5k in the hole tbh

[mystic gale]

peakness

(i broke through the maginot)

[fair horizon]

might have to restart

[misty fossil]

keep pushing

[fair horizon]

i cant

out of guns

[misty fossil]

unlike katzenreich you dont have a timer

so uh

[fair horizon]

being attacked by the whole continent

[misty fossil]

put 40 mils on guns

make 36w inf

[fair horizon]

i have 50

[misty fossil]

real

take the align the labour unions focus for prod cap

[fair horizon]

wat

[misty fossil]

i had 2 army groups of 36w

[fair horizon]

oh im past all that rn

i just need to hold until production efficiency goes up

[iron iron]

Ww1?

[iron iron]

Where in the world even is that

[mystic gale]

ww2

[fair horizon]

griffonia

[terse skiff]

@heavy vigil how do you like this germany

[upbeat tundra]

what having 1.5k tanks in the field does in 1911:

[quasi osprey]

why isnt there a feauture to sell resources for civs? it would be useful for countries like chile that dont have a big industry.

[woven gate]

genuinely mogging the world as Sweden in the 1700s mod

[quasi osprey]

because you can buy resources but not sell for some reason

[woven gate]

who would've thought Manuever Warfare works in the 1700s

[fair horizon]

thats called trade btw

they show up here

[minor flint]

Chat am I smart or dumb for using my pp while at wars to take scrapping the barrel to squeeze out every bit if manpower even if I don't really need it as much

[fair horizon]

are you going to need it?

[minor flint]

I like to mass produce divisions while keeping reserve manpower

I change the recruitment law when I get enough manpower to feel content

[fair horizon]

well if you have a million manpower sitting around you're getting more negatives for going up

for no additional benefit

[urban ivy]

because the economic part of this game is almost inexistent

in theory u also have maintenance cost for provinces

like IRL

not every province produces enough money to bring profit to the country

some produce money some consume money

[fair horizon]

thats looking a lot better

[icy egret]

You do, if you have limited experts or free trade then you will get paid for your resources.

[quasi osprey]

but not that much I mean like selling how much you want smth like the existing international market

💀

[atomic grove]

so u mean like selling and moving whole oil refineries to countries straight up

[icy egret]

yeah but there’s nothing rly about your specific resources that would make them better or worse than say equipment

[quasi osprey]

bruh there is the trade feature already just make it work also the other way around to sell

[icy egret]

Also you do decide how much, it’s in the economy law

[quasi osprey]

USA navy not having a great time😂

[rugged breach]

is there a guide channel here?

[snow rain]

Check the pins in #ask-for-help-here

[woven gate]

dude's up against everyone

[rugged breach]

thanks ❤️

[atomic grove]

what ur talking about already exists

[woven gate]

it's literally me france and spain vs the world in my 1700s game and we've pushed them out of europe

i'm planning to invade britain

[atomic grove]

u can already trade resources for civs and civs for resources

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[minor flint]

No I use up the manpower and leave 20-50k reserve

[fair horizon]

i winned

time to return home

[atomic grove]

trading

[quasi osprey]

you can only buy resources

[atomic grove]

so u want like resources to be generated in your states

for civs

[dusky burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HOI4memes/comments/1sdzd7m/should_i_tell_him/

[quasi osprey]

🎉

[quasi osprey]

kinda

bye bye democracy

actually capable soviet onion

siege of paris

🗿

nothing to see here just a third of a million soldiers passing by

😐

[dusky burrow]

siege

[quasi osprey]

red europe

very nice capital

🗿

[azure dagger]

never seen that event before

[quasi osprey]

its just when mexico completely controles texas

[azure dagger]

nice

[quasi osprey]

enciclement

[heavy vigil]

hiiii

cool

[cobalt gazelle]

hi does anyone want to play multiplayer?

im new to this game and want some help

[ripe slate]

#1239926537512292362

[misty fossil]

do they remember though

[fair horizon]

:)

[quasi osprey]

🤨

[fair horizon]

@craggy trail i finished the april fools thing, very fun

[sly venture]

the usa invasion with 100 divs about to go crazy

[dusky burrow]

good luck

[sly venture]

holy

its working

[quasi osprey]

😐

[sly venture]

we pulled a scroteched earth on japan

[heavy vigil]

hiii vend

[fair horizon]

hi casey :)

[heavy vigil]

how are you sir?

[fair horizon]

just finished the EAW april fools thingy

actually had fun playing hoi4

hbu?

wait casey arent you supposed to be asleep

[heavy vigil]

well i slept and then woke up

i went to sleep really early because i was tired from interacting with people IRL

and so i woke up earlier

shocking developments really

[fair horizon]

People interacting is not fun

[dusky burrow]

rip

in any case what is your favorite plane mio

[fair horizon]

Im being a mobile warfare stan again

im mad maxxing

https://tenor.com/view/pray-mad-max-fury-road-praise-cheer-celebrate-gif-10224262869702493445

[lethal ether]

it gives nothing but speed

useless ah

[heavy vigil]

all of them a are boring

but the prc one at least makes modern fighters like, a question on whether to use

because 30% prod output on them

[tired tendon]

how do i invade britain as germany? i cant move my divisions on water

[heavy vigil]

use fleet

[fair horizon]

Precisely

blitzkreigtactics

[heavy vigil]

vendrip knows fleet

[fair horizon]

My infantry gets into position faster and thats good

[dusky burrow]

oh that's busted

[heavy vigil]

its only modern airplanes specifically

not supersonics or anything else

[dusky burrow]

wait where

[heavy vigil]

uuuhh ill load the game

the entire thing is like focus locked iirc

it was like 2 15% nodes i think but i could be wrong

bad memory

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[heavy vigil]

did i remember correctly?

[dusky burrow]

it's locked behind having Liaoning btw

so you just need to control that province

[heavy vigil]

ohh ok

[sly venture]

is thi8s good for convoy raiding ?

[little owl]

What's the best air advisor buff?

[snow rain]

very good but you should use snorkel before aechotic tiles as it's really good visibility-per ic buff

[snow rain]

mission efficiency

[sly venture]

aetotic gives more

[snow rain]

but cost way more too iirc

[heavy vigil]

mostly rubber

[snow rain]

doesn't it have a %ic nerf too ?

[heavy vigil]

forgot

but shouldnt be massive unless you use nuclear subs

and even then

rubber is rlly expensive tho

and they also dont give you naval supremacy

like i wouldnt rlly go for subs as ger you have enough eco for surface fleet

[snow rain]

subs as ger as fun

[little owl]

I have air superiority +5%, bad weather penalty -10% and night operations penalty -10%

[snow rain]

yeah, night's best

[heavy vigil]

are modern planes viable btw

[snow rain]

air sup is basically useless
bad weather is fine if you have nothing but it's random use

[heavy vigil]

all other buffs are general

[little owl]

cool ok

Also, how do I "rush nukes"? Do I just research nukes asap or something?

Like, atomic research?

[heavy vigil]

yes

well in general new players are way too focused on the year number and big red research number

it doesnt really mean all that much, you get stuff earlier

which means more production + more fighting with the new weapon

idk how to explain it too well but its like, you build up efficiency earlier so you just have more, and you equip it earlier so you fight significantly better

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[heavy vigil]

like if im a minor power ill basically just research guns and production

with 3 slots

[cedar lance]

alr

i play Mostly estonia

[gaunt garden]

I formed Austro Hungary as licthenst

Lichtenstein*

[swift valve]

Hey guys, i’m trying to do the achievement run ‘an equivalent exchange’ and i need to farm war score. Whats the best ways to farm war score in hoi4 vanilla all dlc 2026

[fair horizon]

Blow up enemy navies

[merry compass]

What should i add?

[wide spruce]

supporty companies

[merry compass]

Is this enough?

[snow rain]

what combat width is that

[wide spruce]

65

[snow rain]

cav recon is beyond useless

[wide spruce]

use signal or motorized recon

[snow rain]

signal is also useless in singleplayer tbf

motorized recon is a more expensive version of the useless cav recon too

[merry compass]

Ok i use motorized

[merry compass]

So what do i use?

[snow rain]

just use hospital, it's best, or anything with soft atk

what's the width and purpose of the division ?

[merry compass]

No clue

[snow rain]

well don't design a div without knowing what you want it to do
and don't pick random combat width

it's 16-18 for defense (singleplayer) and 32-35-36-38 for attack

best defensive div is 9inf, support arty and aa

that's it

[wide spruce]

how do i get cheaper dlc

[merry compass]

Is this enough?

[snow rain]

read what I just wrote please

[snow rain]

wait for sales

[merry compass]

It for attacking

[little owl]

How do I do the Nagako/non-aligned path for Japan?

[wide spruce]

i will sell my soul

[snow rain]

then 36w pure infantry
or you can get 35width (all inf and 1 line anti air) if you're worried about enemy air
attack divs require breakthrough. To get decent attack div you need breakthrough and you basically can't have that on inf without the no step back DLC

doctrine choice is also important
assault infantry and grand assault are basically required as subdoctrines

[sly venture]

invading spain

[ivory hull]

what about large unit doctrine?

[snow rain]

it's fine but no breakthrough

it's better for defense or when using CAS to push

[wide spruce]

how to make best light tank panzer divisions

[snow rain]

because higher HP

[snow rain]

No step back DLC ?

[wide spruce]

i only have la resistance

[snow rain]

then these are the tank divs you want

[merry compass]

How to close the game when it still loading?

[snow rain]

left one is the final design, right one is the early one

[snow rain]

alt+f4

[merry compass]

Thanks you

[wide spruce]

i want something like a fast one ive never tried mechanized

[snow rain]

if speed is your goal you want motorized but it's way worse than mechanized

[vague abyss]

should I play HOI

[snow rain]

mech has insane HP count (less losses in manpower and equipment), more defense, more breakthrough and more hardness (takes less damage from soft atk)

[wide spruce]

why cant i use only tank divisions is there something special when i use mech

[vague abyss]

maybe ill do a germany and barb, whats some cool barb style mods i should use hm

[merry compass]

What do i do?

[snow rain]

tanks by themselves have little to no org and HP
this means that with no org, they can't stay in battle for long, and with no HP, each hit they take deletes a large portion of tanks

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

[wanton spoke]

From my limited time playing there is a large learning curve definitely, but the game itself is quite interesting

[ivory hull]

ig get a new pc

[snow rain]

the general adivce to keep in mind is the 30 org (25org without doctrines) and 200 HP as a bare minimum

[ivory hull]

wdym by "barb style mods"

[wide spruce]

and for mechanized do i use the lws or sdkfz 11

[snow rain]

gotta go now, will catch on later if needed

[merry compass]

Why?

[ivory hull]

is hoi4 not loading?

your system looks rather outdated

[vague abyss]

idk something to make barb more fun ig im gonna use sheepsmod but meh

[snow rain]

only 1940 mech
don't confuse it with armored cars
the upgrades to mechanized only change the speed

[merry compass]

No the screen too big

[ivory hull]

ohh

[wide spruce]

ok thank you

[ivory hull]

screen size is also limited

dont know the exact resolution tho

[merry compass]

How to check?

[ivory hull]

your pc screen resolution?

[merry compass]

I have no idea

[ivory hull]

go to your windows settings

[merry compass]

What next?

[ivory hull]

then system, then display

[merry compass]

Oh i see it now thank you

[quick hare]

ppl: "hoi4 is made by the german ideology influenced by american white supremacy bc they dont show the mass murdering"
hoi4 if they actually showed the mass murdering: 💀

[ivory hull]

and then just go into the hoi settings

you can just set it to borderless

or set it to fullscreen and adjust the resolution

[hollow rain]

Africa dlc when?

[ivory hull]

90% of the african content is colonized in hoi

[cursive oxide]

how do i kill turkey as greec ?

the just outbuild me

[ivory hull]

you want to let them take the strip in the north

then naval invade behind them

and repeat

[cursive oxide]

so just bait them until the have no army ?

[ivory hull]

yes

[cursive oxide]

and how do i kill italy ?

cus there invading me

[knotty vortex]

what does one do in this situation

[cursive oxide]

navel invade ?

[cursive oxide]

@ivory hull

[vague abyss]

naval invade/go through the greek islands.

[heavy vigil]

retreat and encircle again

[ivory hull]

yea you have to retreat

[heavy vigil]

smile

[vague abyss]

enjoy the friends u made along the way

[knotty vortex]

ive got one planning now

the germans and italians are just

[vague abyss]

what does one do in this situation?

wait..

[knotty vortex]

nowhere to be seen

[knotty vortex]

how do i encircle the turks theres like no land

[heavy vigil]

retreat

[ivory hull]

rush anschluss ig

[vague abyss]

it was sarcasm

[knotty vortex]

im retreating to istanbul

[heavy vigil]

you have an open plains to the west of istanbul

[knotty vortex]

i wanna hold istanbul for supply

[heavy vigil]

go behind

use the plains to encircle

[knotty vortex]

behind??

[vague abyss]

bad idea

[heavy vigil]

repeatedly

[vague abyss]

hold ur line, naval invade.

[knotty vortex]

yeah well not being funny mate, not sure my 5 troops from the naval invasion are going to hold on

[vague abyss]

then pull some troops out

and make it ten

[heavy vigil]

no you have less units

you get outsnaked

[knotty vortex]

where did their troops go lol

[heavy vigil]

you do that after killing enough

which he hasnt

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[cursive oxide]

ports

[knotty vortex]

holy shit greece is genuinely just in the worst place ever

oh my god

if i get one more naval invasion my monitor is gone

yeah im restarting

i have no clue how to build an army

[paper mango]

i think its time for a non aligned finland run

[cursive oxide]

[paper mango]

see how well that will go

[knotty vortex]

i just want the byzantine empire back

[paper mango]

oh yea that sucks from the times ive tried it

cause for some reason turkey never naval invades

[knotty vortex]

i think im gonna rush industry

just to try arm up lowk

[cursive oxide]

yes

build up get the manpower and amry buffs and like 30 dvis and navel invaiosn army and go

[weak magnet]

Are there any ways to know how you level against other nations? Kinda like when you exit you can see army score comparisons and who ranks the highest overall but live throughout the game

[weak magnet]

before you start playing

look at the focuses

and the national debuffs

and figure out more or less what you think you should focus on first

for example if you have recruitable population debuff, find the focus that gets rid of that before you start trying to build up an army, and in the meantime focus on industry

[weak magnet]

how did u try it

i havent tried that yet

[sudden thistle]

There may be a game overview button when u press escape

[weak magnet]

too scared greece is scary

[sudden thistle]

But that screen is so ungodly inaccurate

[weak magnet]

yea i know

mostly just

overall i guess

[sudden thistle]

No just press escape

Whenever in the game

[knotty vortex]

i start doing this

but i usually get half way through

get bored and realise

ill just wing it

then i lose LOL

[paper mango]

i did it multiple ways, i tried a few times to bait a naval invasion but it didnt work.
i also tried an early Bulgaria cap so i can encircle divisions there when i fight turkey. i did have some succes but i need to make better units so probably will try SPG next time..

[paper mango]

spying, there are ways to gather intel and when you click on their country you can see an estimation fo army power, amount of divisions, etc.
idk how accurate they are but it gives data.

[vague abyss]

whats the best operations doctrine for tanks for org

[weak magnet]

fair i do this too

but with greece its not possible

you're either weak or strong

[weak magnet]

why not black sea naval invade and encircle istanbul so they have no supply?

doesnt greece have a few free ship focuses or something

[vital cove]

grand assault is just the best in general

[paper mango]

not that i know, and i basically never take a navy focus unless absolutely needed

but turkeys army is strong, the few times i naval invaded i couldnt get enough troops there to hold everything and keep good supply

but i have not experimented a lot

i find other countries more fun as of now

like finland

facist finland is amazing

[weak magnet]

same here

fair i mean i dont blame u

i might try for fun greece

but after france i have trauma from such a lack of pp nation

but i play on elite so i assume this is why

i was stuck with -200pp at any given point even after clearing debuffs

[paper mango]

ah

i always play on normal. achievement grinding

[weak magnet]

o yea fair

I should find some to do i think maybe might be fun

[paper mango]

i choose a country and just try to get them

[weak magnet]

what are some fun achievements to try?

i think i got all da basic ones

I wanted to try the 1.8mil poland one but i am not ready xD

No clue how people do that without cheesing it or very specific minmaxxing things

[paper mango]

i remember people using a specific defensive layout so to not cap

[weak magnet]

yeah its a little tricky

something i saw which was very smart was to release that little czech as a puppet

so you can hold krakow and get supply bc it connects

this was very smart

[paper mango]

have you played a lot of finland yet

[weak magnet]

i played a little

i think i only played norway since the long time ago focuses for the nordics

[paper mango]

i liked the achievement: uralic brothers

[weak magnet]

that sounds pretty neat

i like the idea of multiple puppets

[vague abyss]

yeah but for germany, I went with deep battle this time

is mec considered an armoured variant

[weak magnet]

i think check hardness yea

but i doubt it

[heavy vigil]

no

[knotty vortex]

how does one deal with this

on another note it only took me 2 attempts

[cobalt gazelle]

why no people play wtih me is it because im chinese🤓

[crude field]

yes

[mellow cipher]

Does encorage local development in Ethiopia become meaningless under communism?

[cobalt gazelle]

bro

[knotty vortex]

oh?

[quasi osprey]

is 19% a good consumer goods factor?

for germany

[narrow lotus]

yo does anyone here know any modern day mods that dont add heaps of unnecessary features like millennium dawn does? I js want modern borders modern techs, modern focus trees?

[narrow lotus]

what year is it for u

[quasi osprey]

1937

[narrow lotus]

in the game

[ripe slate]

Maybe Novum Vex is less bad

[narrow lotus]

have u used the price controls

[narrow lotus]

alr ill check it out thanks

[quasi osprey]

I went the a-hisorical economic route its much better in the long run

[narrow lotus]

Ohh

Well then yes im pretty sure thats good

[quasi osprey]

after a few focuses the negative effects completelly dissapear for ever

[narrow lotus]

Yea ik but I dont normally do that one cuz If im going facist germany I like to rearm as fast as possible but eh we all have our prefrencws

I do a historical economy only when in going communist monarchist or democratic germany but thats js me

[quasi osprey]

yeah I am democratic rn but idk hopefully I dont do anschluss too late

[narrow lotus]

Ohh

gl bro

I've done democratic germany once it was fun but also got boring after my and my allies defeated ussr

[quasi osprey]

its nice that u can be democratic and go historical path at the same time

[narrow lotus]

Buh

Wht

Tf

How

u didnt have to civil war?

bro wat

OHHHH

[quasi osprey]

its a nice path you justify on a french puppet france defeats u but ussually just changes u to democracy and ur focuses stay the same

[narrow lotus]

.

Thats weird

I thought u must've

Like I know prioritize economic growth path gives u a bit of democratic support right? Or am I wrong

[quasi osprey]

but cool u can restore european union and keep the agressive focuses

[hasty linden]

does anyone know how trading works in cold war iron curtain?

[narrow lotus]

bro i needa try this later

[hasty linden]

because click the stuff below does nothing

[narrow lotus]

I've never even seen that mkf

Mod

[atomic grove]

ur locked out of ur historical focuses though

u cant do reorganize wehrmacht and that stuff

u cant anschluss

u cant do anything

[narrow lotus]

but he did soo

[quasi osprey]

although I suggest making a save before france defeats u because they sometimes choose to be greedy and take a few provinces

[atomic grove]

and theres no way to turn back fascist

[narrow lotus]

thankss

ill try later

ugh I hate being bad at evwry single minor I try to play

[quasi osprey]

also the two things you cant do because ur not fascist is fuhrerprinzip and molotov-ribentrop pact which is quite useless

[quasi osprey]

you can only do a few focuses and then u cant do them anymore

[narrow lotus]

well u can always do fuhrerprinzip before u lose to France right

Cuz then u get the extra construction speed for civs which is Hella useful

[quasi osprey]

kinda but some focuses just dissapear like I did the chancellor hess focus and he did the focus underneath but then the first focus just dissapeared

[narrow lotus]

oh

idk ill try for myself tomorrow

im gonna sleep

[quasi osprey]

ok

[narrow lotus]

bye bye

[patent thistle]

do you really wanna do that austria?

[grizzled zenith]

How are the Soviets this stupid, it's just a big pocket bruh

Oh wait, Turkey's in the Axis

I doubt it'll survive for long

Why does Spain need to be fascist for me to get a war goal on it?

[pale flare]

currently in a three way war between fascist allies, axis, and us commonwealth which i am part of, we are beating fascist allies, rest of us commonwealth is fighting axis while i am not in that fight (since i joined allies late). Im the PRC

what a goofy playthrough

[grizzled zenith]

And I'm fighting the Communist Allies😭

[pale flare]

lmao

i got an event where US invited me into their faction, didnt even know that was athing

[heavy vigil]

its in their communist path

[grizzled zenith]

I just wanted to do a Hungarian game where I go for the Habsburgs but make the Little Entente attack me

[heavy vigil]

next to the option of the ussr

[pale flare]

ah, Hungary playthrough to Austria Hungary, very awesome

[grizzled zenith]

Cuz there's an event where you promice peace or they attack you

[pale flare]

when i did mine all former territories accepted my invitation so i snowballed easy

very fun country

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah, but a special one cuz I didn't promice peace so I did the thig you do as Poland in 30 minutes of hell

[pale flare]

theyre not commie thuough interesting

[grizzled zenith]

Hungary is fun to play as

Yeah

[heavy vigil]

its in the communist path they dont have to turn to it

this too

[pale flare]

ahh

soviets did die in this game so makes sense

they got killed by axis and japan at that time since allies didnt help them lmao

[patent thistle]

my sphere

[ivory hull]

you should try kx bulgaria

[patent thistle]

it is litterally kaiserreich bulgaria lol-

[ivory hull]

thats why i said kaiserredux

[grizzled zenith]

Is that Kaiserreich?

[patent thistle]

yep

[grizzled zenith]

Kaiserredux is KR

Not KX

[ivory hull]

no kaiserreich is kr

redux is kx

[grizzled zenith]

Oh right

[ivory hull]

bro

[grizzled zenith]

I'm stupid

[grizzled zenith]

Yeah, you can core stuff like up to Volga ans then release a huge Volga Bulgaria

In the NatPop path

[ivory hull]

exactly

[patent thistle]

actually first time i dont see the conference collapse

i am in

[quasi osprey]

[patent thistle]

first minor victory in the west the recapture of brussels

[lilac ginkgo]

guys what

konrad adenauer is secretly an evil nazi

[patent thistle]

hehe

[coarse hull]

i guess

[patent thistle]

thats what you get for the naval invasion UK

[lilac ginkgo]

stuff happens bro

[patent thistle]

denmark is the most free kill you can get lol

[coarse hull]

i had bigger fish to fry

[azure dagger]

bulgarian tanks are the best

[patent thistle]

mostly soft attack based tanks

[azure dagger]

wtf 1.0 km/h

[patent thistle]

thats mostly just a visual bug i think?

[clever shuttle]

will this mean civil war in 1989?

they have 0 stability

[ivory hull]

why is the internationale so weak?

[patent thistle]

actually, before i got involved with my tanks germany was getting absulutely stomped by them

[ivory hull]

you should use spgs instead of normal tanks. +45% soft attack

[prisma saddle]

yo guys what i should do with spain i am trying to do hardly aything sevres

[patent thistle]

i like to use real tanks

[ivory hull]

theyre also real tanks lol

[patent thistle]

take the navy

[prisma saddle]

yea and then?

like puppet?

[patent thistle]

spg is glorified artillery

THE ENCIRCLEMENT OF DUNKIRK

[ivory hull]

glorified or not, a lot better than normal tanks

[patent thistle]

oh yeah i have definetly broken the lines hard with my tanks

[clever shuttle]

will ts mean an civlwar in 1989)

[patent thistle]

I DID IT

HELL YEAH

[low dock]

What is hati doing here

I mean 🇩🇴

[misty fossil]

67% stab

[clever shuttle]

do you know the answer

[misty fossil]

eh

Its gonna pop in like a year

Happens to my russian puppet all the time

stalin kept popping out in stalingrad

[patent thistle]

OH GERMANY DEFINETLY STOLE SOME OF MY KILLS.

brought my tanks over here since germany is clearly too incomptent to clean it up

[clever shuttle]

wdym

[misty fossil]

Nazi germany will pop out

eventually

soon

[patent thistle]

there you go

yeah rip france

[clever shuttle]

in 1989?

[prisma saddle]

how do i even manage to invade the uk

jesus christ

[west jungle]

japan in sheeps mod is so dumb

[proud sparrow]

from what I've seen people do, you have to do multiple naval invasions at once to split their forces up

some people do one in northern portion, one in the southern and another one where you currently are

[misty fossil]

I just said in 1 year did you even read?

[misty fossil]

.

[clever shuttle]

ahh ok thanks

[misty fossil]

yw

[misty fossil]

You need cas

Thats it

[west jungle]

genuinely cryn

[mossy plover]

Historically accurate naval battle in the Pacific after 1942

btw how hard is sheep's mod?

[west jungle]

ts was in aug 1941

[west jungle]

On america it seems easy so far, I have destroyed japanes navy and stopped their attacks, on Germany i hav e tried like 3 times and not killed france

[mossy plover]

I see

[clever shuttle]

they will like only fight germany themselves right? like they wont fight against the allies too

[prisma saddle]

i am turkey, and i dont have a navy

[misty fossil]

Idk tbh

[prisma saddle]

ah yes as turket

[mossy plover]

is it possible to lower the difficulty on that one

[prisma saddle]

come on😭

[misty fossil]

yeah

Otherwise pushing under red air is hard

[mossy plover]

I wouldn't like my stare-at-a-map-for-8-hours game to turn into a second job

[misty fossil]

‘annex all’

yw

[west jungle]

yh I think so

if u play america you dont have to lmao

[mossy plover]

Okay

and what did you have to do to get the mod running?

I mean should I disable some DLC or downgrade the game

[west jungle]

idk i just turned it on and it worked

[prisma saddle]

how i even end up making cas

man

to bet uk air

[misty fossil]

get some mils..

[west jungle]

w tag switch accuracy

[misty fossil]

more mils on planes first tho

idk im off to bed

[prisma saddle]

play turkey and do you plan and then tell me

[misty fossil]

idk i dont have time

I have an assignment coming up

[mossy plover]

Man some real shit going on here

the AI is genius!

Listen and learn that's meta strats right there

[ivory hull]

so you are germany right?

[west jungle]

nah i just switched to russia to see what was happening

im the us

[quasi osprey]

Why do people actually go four year plan with germany if you can completely get rid of the additional consumer goods by 1940 if you go prioritise economic growth?

[ivory hull]

why does germany have heavy tanks?

[ivory hull]

four year plan is better if you dont plan to play into late game

peg only overtakes four year plan later

[west jungle]

heavy tds are meta i think, in sheeps mod they normally mix heavy tds with normal heavies

[ivory hull]

ohh sheep ai explains it

[clever shuttle]

one question, how long do i have to bleed the allies out?

[quasi osprey]

Idk its still quite good that by 1940 the recovering economy is only positive effects

[ivory hull]

what about the consumer goods tho

[quasi osprey]

It doesnt add consumer goods

[lethal ether]

when can we get a tung tung tung sahur expansion pack

[ivory hull]

no idea if this graph is accurate

but four year plan is better until like 1940

after that tho

peg is better

[quasi osprey]

Yeah so generally for war with soviets its better to already have peg

[ivory hull]

if you do an early war four year plan is better, but for the rest peg is better

[quasi osprey]

Yeah probably I am playing democratic germany so dont think I will be too fast

[ivory hull]

on non-hist i always go with peg

[quasi osprey]

Well I am kinda historical I went with rhineland focus

[quasi osprey]

I noticed that going democratic without a civil war is pretty nice

[thick vector]

[sudden folio]

Anybody else not able to see colours on rise of radicalism?

[clever shuttle]

@misty fossil bro nothing happaned

[west jungle]

might be joever

[tired tendon]

wow the first paradox game AIs aren't lobotomised

[west jungle]

it's sheep mod

[tired tendon]

managed to lose as germany cuz USA joined the war and just killedd me

[tired tendon]

?

[west jungle]

thought u were tlaking abt my game lol

[tired tendon]

this is general chat lol

[craggy trail]

I’m glad to hear you are enjoying the new AF content

[west jungle]

the ai in this game is braindead just encircle them with decent tanks and they die

[west jungle]

and I just sent an ss of my game lol

[tired tendon]

well then im even more braindead than them lol but k

i guess 120 division year 1942 isnt that great

[west jungle]

it depends what divs

[tired tendon]

well not enough to save me from usa

[cedar wyvern]

Holy

[tired tendon]

i swear it's carrying the allies

[west jungle]

quality matters way more than quantity

[tired tendon]

i have pretty ok divisions i think

[west jungle]

all u need is like a few tanks and air then u can cut through the allies like butter

[west jungle]

stats?

[tired tendon]

i have a shitton of tank division

[west jungle]

send a ss of ur template

[clever glen]

Lol

[tired tendon]

sorry i cant swap polish language off foe some reason

[west jungle]

if ur on germany normally its best to run small inf

[tired tendon]

small?

[clever glen]

Does someone know any good mod to add more parts to add to tanks or overall more tech? I found some mods that extend tech trees, but feels weird to have techs in 1960's when game is already over 1940's. Maybe I should find mod to add content after ww2 which feel vanilla like

[west jungle]

dont use motarised its pretty bad especially when u can afford tanks

[heavy vigil]

you can before launching game in the launcher

but keep playing on polish fr its cool to see

[west jungle]

like 9 inf batallions and an enginneer company

[tired tendon]

did that to swap it into polish so my friend understands anything

[clever glen]

This is bit wide imo, and if this is not MP that AA would be better as support company

[tired tendon]

and now whatever i do it remains polish lol

[craggy trail]

[tired tendon]

crap then thats my mistake this game

[craggy trail]

I’m surprised you aren’t filling up your support company slots

[tired tendon]

thought motorised would be good since germany is attacker not defender

[west jungle]

that is the issue, u want ur tank to be 30+ combat width, you also want signal company and flame tank, light tanks arent very good medium is best against ai and soft attack + breakthrough is what matters (the ai shouldnt have any decent tanks)

[patent thistle]

can someone please explain why i cant raise mobilisation rightnow?

[craggy trail]

8 medium tanks / 8 motorized or mechanized infantry

[heavy vigil]

non aligned?

democratic?

[clever glen]

I would go either full on lights or meds as those lights might not get max value because of mediums. And also supply and radio companies could elevate this dicision more. And i usually would like more trucks compared to tanks

[heavy vigil]

war support? at war?

[patent thistle]

i am at war and theoretically i could

[tired tendon]

could you send me all optimal division templates vs ai?

[patent thistle]

just when i press nothing happends

[tired tendon]

so i know what to use next game

[heavy vigil]

its slow

you dont instantly mobilize everyone

hover over it

[spiral gorge]

finalie a competante italia

[patent thistle]

no i dont mean it i cant even change the law

[west jungle]

I think its like 8 mediums 8 mechsmthn like this

[heavy vigil]

war support?

[heavy vigil]

focus locked?

[tired tendon]

meh smthn?

whats that?

[craggy trail]

That template looks pretty good

[heavy vigil]

mod issue? tho this should help your eco

[patent thistle]

i press over and over and yet it doesnt let me

[west jungle]

its not a one im actually using (mediums are mid) but i thin kit would do good on germany vs normal ai although u can do anything decent and still crush them

[west jungle]

mech

mechanised

[tired tendon]

well yeah im cooked

[west jungle]

what does ur game look like rn>

?

[tired tendon]

i think the divisions reconquering netherlands are crazy in strenght

and actually use good templates lol

[west jungle]

u can probably save that

[lethal ether]

i usually add 2 more tanks

[west jungle]

jst get aa, hold round berlin, bavaria austria and the maginot, try get a few encirclements in the north

[west jungle]

yh that might be meta im not certain on the best combat width rn

[lethal ether]

its easier than that

look at his supply

if he fixes his supply the front will be so much easier to hold

[west jungle]

yh but he will need to counter the ai strat bombing cause normally they destroy all ur railways

[craggy trail]

His infantry divisions could have stockpile shortages

[lethal ether]

that too

[craggy trail]

Because he’s using too many line artillery

His support companies should be filled out

The tank division could be better

The motorized infantry division is alright, but they would be better paired with the tanks

[mossy plover]

give it to me straight gentlemen

just how bad is the AI?

[craggy trail]

Not too sure if he has other DLCs like No Step Back or By Blood Alone

[mossy plover]

currently playing as USSR, mid nov '41, ~100 of my divs vs Germany&co's 150+

[tired tendon]

thatd be savable if i didnt suck (for now, hopefully)

[mossy plover]

holding down Stalin line and they are struggling hard

[tired tendon]

nope

[craggy trail]

Ah. That makes sense.

[mossy plover]

I forgot to make divisions lol

[patent thistle]

wait let me make an MP4 rq

[craggy trail]

That would mean you won’t have access to flame tanks, but as long as you regularly research the next tank level, you should be able to slowly take out the allies

[tired tendon]

^^

well ig ill start a new game with usa to check how strong are they

[sudden thistle]

Only 100?

But the ai is horrible dw

[craggy trail]

Oh don’t forget to have a field marshal. They give 50% of their traits onto your generals

[tired tendon]

what are field marshals?

[sudden thistle]

Big generals

The green plus on the left

It’s a general for ur general

[tired tendon]

ahhhhh interesting

yeah somehow this game has managed to be as complicatedd as stellaris

[craggy trail]

In addition, you can have just one frontline with a field marshal compared to having multiple frontlines from several generals

[tired tendon]

is this qol?

[sudden thistle]

It’s fine once u get a hang of it

[craggy trail]

Not just QOL. You also get more stats for your generals

Adaptable for example reduces terrain penalties

[heavy vigil]

no thats the same

[mossy plover]

Yeah I already had extensive conscription by '40 but I simply forgot

first playthrough man what can I say

[heavy vigil]

you always get general and FM buff

[sudden thistle]

I had like 200 divs with limited 😭

[mossy plover]

I thought I'd be good

[sudden thistle]

Is each div a city or smth

[heavy vigil]

why isnt there unlimited conscription option but only limited

[grizzled zenith]

Why am I at war with China?

[tired tendon]

btw whats the most best dlc to buy? i was thinking to buy no step back

[grizzled zenith]

Oh, right, it guaranteed Germany

Bruh

[craggy trail]

No step back should be your first

[sudden thistle]

Because Saturn can’t eat unicycles

[tired tendon]

yeah i want expanded poland

[lethal ether]

its not because poland its because tank designer

[tired tendon]

i want to do the wojtek king stuff

[tired tendon]

this too

[craggy trail]

You get the tank designer, railway guns, flamethrower tanks, content for Soviet Union and the Baltic states

Poland United and Ready is a free DLC

[tired tendon]

it doesnt have monarchic paths

and communist path

wannted to try them both

[craggy trail]

Yeah. NSB should be your pick for your first DLC

[patent thistle]

there

[sudden thistle]

Restart game?

[patent thistle]

tried already

[tired tendon]

could you send me some strong division templates so i stand a chance against ai?

[sudden thistle]

Save file may be a little corrupted then

[patent thistle]

guess i am locked into limited conscription and civilian economy then.

-_-

[green magnet]

what yall think?

[vague abyss]

W

looks good

I would perhaps maybe look at increasing the mec armor and making it a literal wall

[green magnet]

i tried to make it balanced

[merry bloom]

my laptop is so shit that using geforce now free is significantly better

[heavy vigil]

im so saddened by how bad moto rocket arty is

[green magnet]

how so?

[heavy vigil]

it takes forever to research and just gets no stats

[green magnet]

i mean 64 soft attack is pretty good

and its more late game so its expected

although i find more use for them in alt history games

[heavy vigil]

its so bad

its per 3 combat width used

so its only 21.5 ish per width

a self propelled artillery tank can get more, earlier, with less research

or even normal artillery

[grizzled zenith]

Okay, I'll just call this campaign unsuccessful atp, no point in holing the line for like 50 years before doing that

[heavy vigil]

really its just not good

but they have aura

[grizzled zenith]

All of my enemies are in the communist allies btw

Well, other than the British colonies cuz it decolonized

[knotty vortex]

why do people say space marines arent worth it

cause lowk

i can never get the production for a tank template

idk what i do wrong but i never can

so i fear space marines might be the next thing to try

[green magnet]

guys

what does a space marine div look like?

[heavy vigil]

they can be

just if you do like SPAA on like 18w inf youre not cooking

[knotty vortex]

i mean i feel they might be good for me

considering i suck lol

[knotty vortex]

if you were to use them; what template would you use

[heavy vigil]

it wont fix the sucking, templates are just one of the tools