#hoi4-general
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Just formed some stuff in the west
formed the kitchen
How do you get eva braun to be in power
its a mp mod
i cant remember maybe agora rp
morocco sure will fall very quickly (hollowbeing video)
how does the game decide which focuses the ai will do as next and why is it sometimes that the UK will none of their political focuses
just turned 1910
April 11th, 1910 to be exact
so i just started my ww1 focus tree
this is europe-northafrica
i'm working on getting Italy in, then i'm gonna start working on more industry
i need 200k guns for upgrades
but i got 1910 civ trains
Suprisingly that was fast
can we fix india, its so annoying if the UK is doing nothing and hardlocking you
how do i save myself from this failed invasion
i forgot about it
it invaded but i only sent the main troops months later
so all the brits gathered there
i let it play out and it takes about a month for them to destroy all of my units
can i retrieve them?
in that month you could have destroyed the uk
last stand tf outa it
i cant
uhh
what is this
see how there's no one in dover?
he's being attacked from the neighbouring tile
so somehow i survived
just walk in there
that's why
you already have a port
click the battleplan button and provide some cas
which one is that
just retrieve them through that port
how tf i do that
i tried just making them go into germany but they need a land route
is there another way
gather all divs in the port tile and then click on another port in france
bruh
are we serious rn
wait i thought it said lost
but what are the brits on
look at that plane
straight out of the flintstones
afghanistan air force
im gonna try
but considering the org of your divs a couple might die
whats up with france there
its belgium now
but it went all wrong after
should i sell equipment at a high or low price? whats the catch
lucky
because im gonna gain alot of british empire
man 1910-1918 was def boring
a lot of waiting, knowing ww1 is about to happen, but it just takes so long
any spots i should invade now after they all probably gathered at portsmouth
uhhhh
scotland
i usually do that
a bit far away from london but if you use tanks youll get there fast enough
the last time i did this was 42 i did a rerun and now my tanks feel weak af
portsmouth, dover, ipswich, plymouth, hull or newcastle
works for me
depending on how the game is going
just do high
i hate the rng in this game
dont know what you mean
how do I click the decision in darkest hour idk what its asking me to do
I literally have no idea what it wants me to do
what is the confusing part about this?
well for one how do I get 2 generals in the operation, there are 2 generals I assigned and they are both and the front line
it gives me no decision to get a war goal
i again, lost all my divison
s
i cant seem to get a good naval invasion
bruh
need help
in the screen its says that you declare war on norway and denmark automatically
I assume Weserubung is planned by clicking decisions, and you've done 19.8% of the decisions. You need to do 35% of them
they landed in ipswitch and a tile next to it
And then once those decisions are done, and you do a different operation, you can launch it
I have no decisions to do though
i sent all my divisions to the tiles around but the brits had collected enough troops
there are no decisions left except for the ones it wont let me do
also i assume Hoheres Kommando z.b.V. XXXI should be done before this
and then they incircled me and killed me
and what do those decisions say
help
this is the only decision I have
it relies on me completing a decision I don't seem to have
decisions.nocheck
?
its a command
its probably focus locked
so you could do any decisions
I put in the console and nothing happened
it said unknown
ezd
idk then
I did the focus tho
How tf are they defending so goood
like, the second decision probably also is
?
do i need the sealion focus to make it?
this screen came after I completed the focus
not mandatory
but gives good bonuses
all my tanks are directly finished once they arrive
theyre already retreating
its not even many brit
you have air?
🤡
well, at least my deficits aren't shyte
cooked
no supplies rip
this looks extremely painful
look at those red exclamation marks
there are thousands of planes doing nothing
where
nvm darkest hour has a bunch of mechanics that you have to do several pages worth of reading to understand. I was apparently supposed to have agents there a long time ago
uggg
whether they aren't assigned missions or aren't assigned airzones idk
what's having an airforce like
i'm getting 1912 fighters researched now
did you lose all those tanks
please someone help me win against bad winston curchill
hes such a tyran he will destroy europe if no one helps me
youre not walter white bruh
but then im gonna win the war after the us joins thats slow
it's best to land in hull and the surrounding tiles
just try
because if you make a beachhead, you can send tanks
whats a beachhead
and i already can send tanks
so this part and then invade britain?
or ireland too
Yeah if it isn't that easy to invade directly you can invade Ireland, get a railway gun, and naval invade in northern England or Scotland
The UK Ai is set to have heavy defenses in the south
how do you sealion in sheep
you dont
dont be so pessimistic
Just like how you would D-Day, but in reverse
only i get to do that
the humble 90 allied heavy td divisions:
and 10000 planes
with brazil as ac for some reason
and us supersonic
this is why i dont play the ai enhancement mods
supersonic airplanes???
@grave phoenix hi homeboy how do i sealion in sheep
what year could that be
us can rush supersonic airframe i think
idk 43-44
u cooked
thats my point
oh yeah clown also has a gf
you can be a hoi4 sweat and have a gf
LOL
well, you can use amtrac tanks tbh
I've seen the Sheep's AI conquer the US before
Yeah
only porblem is it doesnt have vnr compatch
and im not ditching vnr for anything else
whats vnr
vanilla navy rework
that's just normal meta things
ohhhh
yeah
provided your ruleset allows it
the lion doesent do the meta, only sheep do so
my fricking navy is gone?! i just looked away for a sec?!
welp new game lol
lmao
unfortunate
like sheep's has really cheap amtracs
reduces the cost down to mech level
yeah
in vanilla
it adds mech mios and cost reduction to amtracs
nice
would be nice if you can also design mechs and amtracs like tanks
i have mods that lets you do that
why did i not make a quicksave bevor invading
the last one is when invading poland 🥀
quicksaving wont save you
so for mech in vanilla the cost is reduced by 50% + 3% (from MIO)
add in the vanilla doctrine cost reduction of 15% and you get 50% + 15% + 3% = 68% cost reduction for amtracs, but amtrac battalions also use up 50 units of equipment instead of 40
But this still makes amtracs cheaper than mech if you can get that doctrine
dont forget the amtrac reduction from the marine tree
still uses special forces cap
is it possible to equip your entire army with mech
i was talking about that
apart from the fuel problem
i mean it is possible
did they changed something for mogul india in the civil war
why so?
i still got no idea how i can use a railgun to invade so im gonna try dover again
if the enemy is within range of a railgun, they will get debuffed
communist UK joined the war (after they changed to com), never happend before, so did all the other minions and i cant break trough any of the other indian troops
Joined the war?
ye
i assume this is the second war?
no
the first
normally you dont need the second cuz you take india as a whole in the first
you get to white peace them out later
if the uk doesnt stay democratic
Yeah you get to take all of India even while the UK has all of its dominions barreling down on you
ye but than you have to fight the uk as a whole in the 2nd war which makes it impossible
ye normally only if uk stays democratic, if they change to king/fascist/com they dont joined the war at all and you only fought india
You beat the UK in the first war
never had that
the general strat is that you secure control of india quickly enough that the uk can't make inroads into your territory by the 300 day limit
as if they want to attack you they either have to go through burma or via naval invasion
the first non-indian enemies that show up are typically australians and new zealanders
like i said
if they changed ideology they never joined the first war and you only fight against india which you can normally take out very easy and you can go on while being at peace
did you check whether the UK actually decolonized btw
sometimes they don't decolonize and india still remains their puppet
they already changed to com, that was always enough
india will call the uk into the war if they're a puppet of course
1.5k assigned too south england yet no one is ther
not all of your planes are assigned
ur using bad planes and ur pilots are untrained
do you have by blood alone
hover ur mouse over this icon
only 26 werent 🥀
click this button
they always stay theyre puppet
really always
then this while holding shift
i wonder why the uk is joining the war then
thats the thing i hate about india
it's because you're declaring war on the uk
you dont get what i´m saying
@vernal beacon show ur plane template
if you declare war on india if the uk is india's overlord, you automatically declare war on the uk
this shows you all bonuses or penalties to your air wing's performance
where is that at
wait i know
technical yes, but my experience says otherwise
that dlc lets you design planes
oh nice
i don't know which version of the game you were playing in that made that false
put 40 mils on that
im gonna invade now there is no time
is this sheep?
good luck
is there a way to see ingame from which real date the load is
than i could tell you
its working!!!
winston churchill frick you
we got london
who said dover??
good call
ik
you can also land in dover and portsmouth at the same time, the ai seems like that they dont know what to do then
get encircled boi
what do you mean "real date"
second time i tried it too lol
First time getting the allies before the us joins!!
wrong pic
i have a save with a friend where the game tells me that its in a playable version, all other saves are in another version, but in the last save it was definitely the way i told you otherwise my friend and i woudlve started new
Congrats the moment i saw your plane template i knew you can do it
the date we played that, like 3rd august 2025 or something
Pay attention to all these btw
@vernal beacon
dont forget their navy
yep
how do i see that
air tab
ah i see, go into the folder where your save files are stored
Hover ur mouse over the clover leaf
wait im gonna do it just let me annex rq
C:\Users\[user]\OneDrive\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\save games
🥹
anything important other things to annex? like the canadian base?
The arrow button consolidates all air wings to make them full and the cogwheel trains them
Just annex all
and take the navy
From everyone
and europa
i didnt even start war with soviets yet
its useless anyway i think
How much
lots in macedonia
could be
it doesn't have much chromium at all
i thought it did
i play with a resource mod so idk
holy alternate ww2
berlin pact with german empire, poland and the 3 countries i forgor name vs rome protocols with italy, spanish state, turkey, serbia, croatia and hungary vs commintern
germany and italy wanted me in their factions LOL
@vernal beacon head to #ask-for-help-here and check pinned for army templates
W game other than the fact ussr been fighting allies 90% of the game
what is this
what mod
ok, so my last solo india game were 27nd september 2025 and i know that the UK changed ideology and i took india cuz neither the UK or any other puppet was fighting me and the coop game with my friend was 4th december 2025 and was the same with the UK and the other puppets cuz otherwise we woudlve started new
but it seems that they changed that and india is unplayable now then for the mogul path if you have to fight the UK in the second game
you can still defeat them in the first round
i'm not joking
you basically defeat them the same way you did before
because the allied troops won't arrive in time before you defeat india
then you just have to hold them off
i cant even leave my land idk why, normally you steamroll india
the game is acting in different ways for us then
the focus finish>war started>2 weeks later the first tank from UK is rolling in india
no joke
it was always that for me for the democratic UK
the british navy costs 3k points why would i do that
thats why i´ve always started new and hoped for ideology change for UK cuz i knew that i can take india alone and after india got defeated the first war ended automatically
cuz you are germany and probably doesnt have a lot of ships and the uk has a lot of ships
if you didnt destroyed all of them
but i only have 1.5k for annexing
i did 🦧
why do i gain more points with each round??
i got 13k now after annexing almost everything i want
idk but thats how it works
so that is the current state, still 34 days before the peace deal which would help me stop from dying but i could already start new cuz there is no way to beat the uk in the 2nd war and i have 5k weapons in storage and normally i would vipe the floor with india but now i can be happy if i can one tile from them @dusky burrow
Negotiation power
You’re overpowering all other parties
WHAT IM SUPPOSE TO DO NOW
new game lol
nah im tagging soviets and removing everyone from their faction
you took everything and now you own everything
so you delay barb and destroy the us first
but i only fought the brits
i thought i can slime the us now
i mean soviets
i need to upstep my army tho
and all in the allies
but idk how
uh oh
i never had all this power
how do i make THE ARMY
the strongest
of them all
and how do i stop them doing this
i dont want any fights in the land i conquered
i hate going back
for some small ahh fight
i would go for the us first, cuz there is a time where the us will ask for all your territories (cuz they dont like europe fascists in the americas) and if you deny they have a war goal (but idk if all of that happens in historical games if you play that) and the us is still weak and they will get stronger by 1943-1944
so if i attack now my army that defeated brits should be enough?
what you mean? they only riot at 90% of the red bar
and is there a focus for a us war goal
depends on how many divisions you have
yes but it goes up
the 4 are tanks
yes there is but you could also just make on up in the us diplo menu
then change your occupy law probably and your garrisons divisions
what is the best occupy law
this should be enough i´d say
i always do civilian control with military police and 3x3 cav (could also add more) cuz that works for me the best
erm...
how do i do that stuff
i only know this setting
civilian oversight
can i do it after invading us or now
this is the law for all your occupied lands, it doesnt affect anything else
cheap medium tanks are best
ye ik, but have to build enough first to use them otherwise your undersupllied and then you need more men again
thats why i said that this works for me the best
also put easy maintenance and daimler benz mio, assign all traits that cuts production cost and select cutting corners policy @vernal beacon
(btw thats interwar tank chassis)
exactly but you only need like 10 mils at the beginning
20 tops
i dont know what youre saying
oh yeah
i got that
you have all dlcs?
refer to template
select this button and untick ALL medium tanks except for the tank you want to use
ideally i would change the equipment tag for the tank and division as well so that the garrison only exclusively takes those tanks
no
more advanced chasses only give more reliability
you never research anything beyond basic
do research armour and engine and guns though
just not the hulls
ok
get radio 2
ok..
why you research that already in 1941
doing that
good
idk looked tuff
okay
delete your army before the war starts
that might help
i got so many military factorys now what should i assign them
good plan?
right side is gonna have armored left side not
well, you have to cover the whole front otherwise they just ran pass your divisions and encircle you xD
I was one day away from victory ðŸ˜
with india?
Yeah
Managed to enter Bombay, but then the British naval invaded me in Karachi and I couldn't stop it
Just one day away
okay let me change that
I also got Madras
well i only got karachi and delhi xD
i dont know what they changed if they changed something
but it felt impossible now
when i played india i needed only half the time or max till the last 100 days to take all indian points
ok ye, i see now @dusky burrow
uk decolonised and india is set free
happened never before one of the updates they did
do you have la resistance
okay i suggest being the spy master
click the eye-symbol top-left
that is how you get more spies
for spies
I think it scales based off of how many allies and factories you have iirc
italy wants to steal my precious switzerland while im deployed in canada
frick ben or whats his name
benito
benito mussolini, the man who didnt liked "his" own italian propaganda films xD
whats the best to influence america i have like 50 days left
305k deaths from me raiding convoys
with 50 days its to late for anything
what are the best ships for patrolling?
i got a lot of navy from the brits but idk how i can use it against the us exept raiding convoys
u-boats on no attack order (thats what a friend and i always do)
well, you dont really need to attack the us fleet since your sitting in whole of canada and attack the us from land, so ye just raid the convoys
if you see that they are trying to get dominance in a tile where they can naval invade you can then add your own navy to the spot and fight the us fleet
is there another way to find this base in the menu without looking thru it?
then restart it, just so i don't crash every year
press the gear next to the home base
it sets it to automatic, meaning it'll change when you change seazone to the closest one
i did but its still all red
do they need time to calculate?
wait i need to make them different taskforces maybe
i killed so many soviets and they still have the capacity to push me back
There we go, wasn't even that hard
ok
what did you that it worked that didnt worked for me
this is not pretty aswell
he started a war with soviets
while every single of my troops is in the us
ye thats not pretty
you dont have to join the war against the soviets
it just started
By the way Britain is democratic here
I forgot to select non-historical
ye ik, you play historical
xD
You basically just go through the gaps since the Raj literally has like 6 divisions
ok, thats a change to me
man... what are you doing to my people?
canada didn't do anything this time
u got encircled
they joined allies i think
in my games they always have 12-28 and get 9 out of the 17 starting divs
why do you have so few divisions?
In any case, use the forests, mountains, and low supply areas to your advantage
its so over
i did tell you to delete the army
so there should be 0 starting divs
they are anywhere full supply xD
ye ik, but in my experience it wouldnt matter cuz you can overrun them with your own troops
well you did had enough, 120 divs should be enough to defeat the us, but maybe its different in historical playtrough
are 80% of those 90 divs 2w cav
so then they could be stronger and all
Yeah
makes it really simple, but you can do without them
true
civil war cheesing is kinda boring though
perhaps
but if it is against the uk, then i don't see why not
but also you can do it without cheesing since the raj has so few divisions
ok
so uk is going communist again
so i can just wait till they decolonise and then i have all the time for that shit
soviets are weak ye
cmon hype me up instead of saying that theyre bad 😓
xD
oh no winter struck
no fuel probably
nah i got plenty
finland just chillin
im losing or something idk what went wrong
Stop attacking and recover your supplies probably
The air situation in eastern Poland and Belarus isnt great either from the looks of it
Also you have research to do, unassigned divisions, etc
Do your notifications
that looks more than 0 divisions after deleting the army to beginning @dusky burrow
yeah no wonder he's getting pushed back if he ignores focuses and industry and doctrines
can you zoom in on the frontline so we can see whats going on?
part of your problem is you have like no troops up north
ye all your divisions are completely dead, no supply, no organisation, nothing
i know but im getting destroyed at the bottome and i wanna hold
another problem you have most of your army in a small pocket
you probably dont have weapons in the storage
you won't be able to push if you have no supply
yeah omg he has like 20% equipment
i can start over cause i made a quicksave any suggestions?
what that mean and where do you see it
i think the quicksave wont save you if you already wouldnt have enough weapons
the orange bar at your divisions
on the division counter there is organization on the top and equipment at the bottom
this is how it started
go to the tab to the right of your recruitment tab and click on it. It shows how much of a surplus or deficit of equipment you have
if you hover over itll tell you how many days until you get enough to break even
yeah that's not great, could be worse ig
the main thing is, SPREAD YOUR INFANTRY OUT
so how do i start the war now different tactic or what?
congrats
you can salvage this just don't put too many troops in a few tiles, they will take too much supply and won't be effective
although what can you really do here
tanks are meant for breakthroughs so they can be concentrated but I'd reccomend attacking from several different directions
you don't have the troops to cover the whole italian frontline
yeah
india isnt working for me in the same way as for you livadeia
what does it look on 9 may
i just rushed
Nice
oh thats gross
Slight problem.
You are in the entente and you dont even have Spain
You are in a rough position
Because you can never trust the entente in KR
oh right
i forgot about spain
shit
more like this?
absolutely
just don't attack where you can push like in the north. If you have tanks, maybe go for an encirclement by riga, but trying to attack outwards like that is just going to pin down some crappy soviet infantry at most
for the love of god tell me why my troops are utter shit
so i really wanna know what exactly you did, did you train some divs before the war but didnt deployed them and did you other things aswell
i could india capitulate now but before i could reach burma they naval invaded kirachi so i had to go back and burma than reconquered half india and i only had 20 divs out
no naval supremacy bumming you out?
no, they naval invaded after india capitulated, so the extra win points saved me there
or what you mean
naval supremacy stops invasions
by making a navy
with 0 shipyards
by making shipyard s
its not ragebait
yes it is
make navy with india in 1936 to defeat british navy
plus if you're in india the british wont waste majors fleets to fight you
ah i didnt realise it was 1936
doesnt really matter the year
it kinda does
as long as you still have to fight the civil wars shipyards are waisted building time
with 10 dockyards you can fight the british by 39
how did japanese troops get into peru when i have naval supremacy
convoys can still cross and deploy
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supply mabye? show picture with f4
f4 goes to supply mode btw
im making 750 a day tho
and your troops are using probably 5k a day
its a bit exaggerated but 750 a day doesnt fill the hole you have with your weapons
turkey is helping me too
should i make any of these?
were only lacking 25k now its going great
im gonna be in the plus very soon
we are winning!
ofcourse italy wants to snack as soon as im done with the main battle
Guys is it true that it’s best to start the civil war as soon as possible as tsar russia?
Like the sooner the better?
Yes, usually
You want to secure the transsiberian railroad first
this is going back and forth im demanding all of it and then they send it again
wait what does changing government do?
guess whos next
im going to sleep
its me
jk its switzerland
no, that's not necessary
you are attritioning, I would try naval invading somewhere else
Ok, i started with 12 divisions and india startet with 8-16 and recruited more during the war and as soon as my troops reached the border the indian troops arrived also there and it was a stalemate which i couldnt break
damn dude how many divisions is that?
About 1 bunch
its literally not even that much
yes it is bro
might as well be the soviet union at that point
ok that is about 240 units
2 full armies
so not even much
idk what your on about
bro
i have like 80 armies as germany and i can take over europe and the ussr
yes it is
how many hours do you have if i may ask?
10 trillion
what does tn stand for?
This neighbor
Cause he's my neighbor land wise
I regret making the reichskommisseriat
oh alright
well atleast u dont have to deal with as much resistance
yeah
how please tell me
by reducing their autonomy and annexing them
how that work?
theres a focus that costs 1 pp (political power) a day and it reduces all puppets autonomy by 0.20 a day
national focus?
yep
you need to cancel your current focus
what mod is that
The great war redux
how can i assign all of these infantry divisions at once
how do i get my infantry ready for the american war?
pretty bad
what version did u get? i also have the mod and it does not look like that
how do i select all of my troops i curently have no armys
Download clean map mod
Oh yeah
Something something Mengkukuo focus tree something something Mongol larp
Shift click the notification at the top of the screen that says you have unassigned units
hold left click and drag
are you fricking kidding me
after i destroy the us im gonna care about that
but wtf
im at a deficit and i can trade with my own recourses
its your rk's resources
big difference
yes but i clicked on a button to make it a different puppet
on accident
how do i see the american stats?
manpower
i wanna know if 2 million is enough in 1943
how did france break germany defence??
sometimes happens
germany has less forces on the french border during poland campaign
France needs a new focus tree bro
its good but i feel like France could be so much better because of its horrible stability in ww2
is this ok for brazil 1940?
dont they start with like 10 factorys
7 lol
w pfp
and hours?
i have 1500 hundred hours lol
wth man
i mostly play mods
france is fun lowkey
i dont play mods cuz i barely could learn vanilla i hate learn new mod mechanics
how do i see the manpower stats of countrys
bulgaria and germany goat
you dont
Germany is my favorite overall
jsut point the cursor on manpower
Becuase of The Kaiserreich stuff
and it will show manpower on every shit
okay i will beat the americans
think so
i hate mods
don't you think its stressing learning new mechanics?
and guess what i have in canada ready for them
20 men for each rifle
no i mean base civel war
what country you playing
?
meh i cant send enough i gotta build some ports
rally like cars?
Yeah your English is fine
Its harder going from Spanish too English from german to English
no am just saying because German and English are very similar
oh are you learning german?
Am german myself
ohh
so the langweilig thing
ok i thought you were american
I'm actually learning german, but i learned before english so it is easier to me learn german
cuz both are germanic languages
I would say german is pretty easy but i never had to learn it lol
it's just difficult as sh** your fu**in pronouns stuff
der die das dem den
akkusativ
genitiv
dativ
and there was a fourth one...
the rest is easy
Yeah thats something most Germans don't do
we might at school or collage but in basic conversions most Germans wont care if you use it right or not
oh ja ja the genitiv was the fourth one
im being traumatized
by that shit
cuz i wanna get into a scholarship to the best Universität
I think the most annoying part about German is the genders of words
Ludwig Maximilians Universität
what pussios
very legit game trust
I wanted to learn German so much in school but it just doesn't make sense for me ðŸ˜
Am playing going for political science and economics
i mean just because i conjugated different the sentence now i have to use 2 different gramatical cases
where
you just entered or going to
good for ya
im planning to get into LMU also for political sciences
but
im gonna study too radiochemistry
and sinthetyc biology
its hard
btw where is mannheim
for what reason?
in which state
I wanna do politics in my country
if you read some newspaper
drugs and cartels run a lot of the country
Württemberg
Yeah its crazy to me that Americans want people from thoses groups to be in there country lol
baden
you know pro-sionist groups are giving weapons to the cartels
and suporting?
and our actual president is jewish
well im not antisemitic
its just
curious
yeah
and american government condems mexican government
but they are consumers
of drugs
I dont blame them
chat
Mexico and central america bring a lot of crime and drugs into them
lets be mindful of #server-rules and not do modern politics
pretty please with a cherry on top
oh mb
dang 3 world conquests in one game
why do people think that changing engine would make things better ðŸ˜
what this bro is even talking about 😠🥀
a newer engine would lwk be better but its not even worth it for a 10 year old game
hoi5 better have that
i mean
what is a "new engine"
you want them to shift to unreal engine 5
a one that is newer and better
they made clausewitz and one for a rome game
so an improved version
ig
Joke DLC: At The Enemy Lines
🇬🇧 UK rework focus tree that nerfs it a bit, still Historical powers it up
🇮🇪 Ireland Focus tree: as a new country struggling after british rule and IRA extremist fractions, Ireland can decide to go fascist and reconquer the western parts of Britain and their northern land to become the New Celtic Empire
🇨🇦 Canada Focus tree: can now core all of North America as a communist union or be the only ones to help the UK regain control of the USA, can go fascist and help Germany in Axis, gaining Alaska to core and some northern states
how does anschluss work
its 1939 april and i still cant annex austria
cuz of some you havent got 50k infantry gear
PDX makes their own game engine versions