hoi4-general

[vocal bolt]

it seems cool but it seems like a play once then never touch again type deal

scripted peace deals :(

[restive sable]

cominterms got this

[thick vector]

Good but this will drain manpower

[upbeat tundra]

the only reason they even exist is romania somehow got war score

[vocal bolt]

bro watch out for sinkiang

they might get you

I heard that they send their soldiers to tibet to train with the monks that trained batman

[fair horizon]

ill have to be more careful in the future

[vocal bolt]

it takes 10 german tank divs to take out a single tibetan monk

[fair horizon]

if they're lucky of course

[vocal bolt]

perchance

[fair horizon]

and the monk is out of panzer repellant spray

[vocal bolt]

also due to their support divisions any soldier encirlced by the monks will reincarnate as a flea in their next life

[upbeat tundra]

nah bro the mutual asssistance bloc got me

[steel zephyr]

pegged

[upbeat tundra]

ENCIRCLEMENT

[fair horizon]

this is why 5 year plan is better

[steel zephyr]

soon...

cleared up silesia, can lock in now

[late valley]

what path did u go down

[upbeat tundra]

german military junta in 1937 be like

[steel zephyr]

it went imperial germany, then i invaded it and so did the french faction

or really austrian faction

[steel zephyr]

romanov

[stark elbow]

france had guts to puppet hungary

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/kolchak-russia-anticommunism-white-army-gif-22053935

[steel zephyr]

had guts to also leave hungary

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-empire-gif-24693277

[upbeat tundra]

least cursed balkans

[steel zephyr]

yoo tuff

[safe wing]

What width are your infantry btw?

[stark elbow]

how did the french get in the balkans without going in italy?

[safe wing]

18 or 36?

[raven lava]

Tgwr is peak bro its my fav mod

[stark elbow]

r is for redux?

[raven lava]

Ye

[steel zephyr]

danubian faction

[steel zephyr]

32

21 i mean

[safe wing]

I see

[upbeat tundra]

reichspakt be like

[safe wing]

Danubian Federation*

[steel zephyr]

uh oh it reopened

atleast i got an encirclement near berlin

[quick ibex]

im new to the game and i dont understand how to make infantry

[upbeat tundra]

when a mommy infantry and a daddy infantry love eachother very much

[quick ibex]

crazy.

[craggy trail]

I am really enjoying this playthrough so far reading these events. It is very fun. Do give it a try when you have the chance. @fair horizon

[winged field]

do you know how templates work?

and how to edit them?

[wanton whale]

I was Germany...

[fair horizon]

will do, i love EaW's storytelling

[steel zephyr]

we are so back

[fair horizon]

where is your attack units

[quasi osprey]

is this a nice run considering I get cores on all nordics and estonia? and soviets whent a historical so might not even ask for karelia

[steel zephyr]

all are attack

because im such a bum

[vocal bolt]

oK am gonna try out the great war redux for the first time

any tips ?

I would join their discord but that place is a hellhole

[steel zephyr]

encircled 🤤

[vocal bolt]

I dont think tat matters anymore

[winged field]

Why ask...when you can make them 😇

[dry kayak]

mmmm, time to nuke

[vocal bolt]

smite

[modest grail]

once i attack phillipines as japan , is it war with the united states untell one of us die lol

[vocal bolt]

yes

[modest grail]

what year should i try to take phillipines i think i tried too early

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[modest grail]

or maybe arrange my navy more efficiently , the most annoying thing was them sniping my convoys

[winged field]

Conquering them

[quasi osprey]

conquering soviets?

[winged field]

Ye

[quasi osprey]

well I already planned on doing that just in 1941

[steel zephyr]

odessa and kyiv lost to a frontline change, whoopsie

[winged field]

🔥

[quasi osprey]

I now have about 550k manpower in the field so in 1941 the soviets dont stand a chance as britain and germany teamed up as well

[winged field]

Hell yea

[sleek dew]

somone be create a historical roleplay with a no mods?

[steel zephyr]

pegging

[sleek dew]

damn

[vital cove]

all of that to still have less core pop than Poland

[quasi osprey]

but way more factories and steel

[vital cove]

you're manpower capped anyways

[amber matrix]

first time winning barb

[quasi osprey]

but I can still build a very big tank force

[steel zephyr]

10:1 kdr as russia

[amber matrix]

Good job

[steel zephyr]

about to encircle ukraine

got suprise attacked by europe

[amber matrix]

3 pockets together

[steel zephyr]

holy encirclebait

[late valley]

this looks so satisfying

[amber matrix]

500k men

in this pocket

[late valley]

pocket

but nice

[amber matrix]

ts the first time im winning barb

[safe wing]

Why is monarchist Russia called Russia and fascist Russia the Russian empire

[steel zephyr]

romania always weakest link

[safe wing]

Like that’s bothered me for years

[quasi osprey]

with swedish steel and factories its possible to make lots of tanks so manpower isnt that much of a problem

[safe wing]

IKEA tanks

[amber matrix]

im actually gonna finish fuhrer directive 21

❤️❤️

[quasi osprey]

yeah you can build them without the instructions😭

[steel zephyr]

my first division in this war to get slimed 🥀

france alone outslimed

[craggy trail]

I just started my war right now with the Karthinia Pact and Falcor @fair horizon

[amber matrix]

2.7m soviets to 650k Germans

my ratio

so far

[coarse hull]

the pope gets "accused of cowardice" 7 times in one day and now i have no war support

[amber matrix]

🥰

25 div encirlcment

[coarse hull]

and the ai doesnt know how to do democratic germany so they are forever stuck as the junta

[steel zephyr]

more kdr

[zenith charm]

'do i look, like him'

[autumn parrot]

yo chat

I have a quick question

do my messages still show up as likely spam

[zenith charm]

yes

[autumn parrot]

😢

Dang

ty

[zenith charm]

👍

[stark elbow]

y'all im playing italy with 9/0 and not 7/2 this time but they look kinda weak, are there some advantages i cant see?

[fair horizon]

7/2 are garbage

[ripe slate]

Yes

[fair horizon]

with your factory output negatived id highly suggest not doing 7/2s as italy

[winged field]

cuz 7/2 has artillery which has more soft attack, but still terrible

[stark elbow]

and shouldnt it be a good thing?

[halcyon pasture]

I like trains

[fallen hearth]

yo gng does anyone know why this is happening, everytime i try to play with mods the game just starts with no mods active

[winged field]

no cuz everything except that straight more soft attack is terrible about that division

compared to 9/0 which is good for what it is meant to do

[fallen hearth]

my internet is fine tho

[ripe slate]

You could get an alternate launcher from the #tech-support pins

[fallen hearth]

happened today, yersterday it was working alright

imma try that out

its always this message or the other one

[steel zephyr]

maginotlarp

[stark elbow]

i'll see if it will work through the run, maybe it spares me military factories

[winged field]

sure just keep in mind this division is not meant to attack well

[winged field]

for that you want something bigger

[gentle briar]

untill when should i build civs as soviets?

[stark elbow]

always inf or you mean tanks ecc?

[quasi osprey]

huh what is hyperborea

[winged field]

either 36w inf or 36w tanks, if you are going for inf you want to have at least 200 breakthrough

otherwise tanks yes

[stark elbow]

kk thx

[tame stone]

What's the current meta template for tanks?

[amber matrix]

why here?

[amber matrix]

30w or 40w is best for tanks

[faint fiber]

so...what did I do wrong when making the idea

[lethal ether]

guessing it has to do with htis

[winged field]

36w in sp

[lethal ether]

the mod youre trying to use may just no longer be installed on ur pc

or something

hover over the warning and see what it says

[amber matrix]

it depends on what ur stockpile is

[fallen hearth]

i downloaded and redownloaded mods like 5 times

i will redownload them again

and try

[lethal ether]

hover over the warning

and see what it says

[amber matrix]

Like in my game rn im making 50 tanks a day so i can do 40w

[lethal ether]

which mod are yyou trying to use?

[dry kayak]

house heating problem, Solved

[fallen hearth]

just road to 56 and player led

yersterday they were working fine

[lethal ether]

yeah just hover over the warning and see what it says

[amber matrix]

its sad that nukes dont do anything

[fallen hearth]

mk

[winged field]

It's not about stockpile it's about the most optimal width

[amber matrix]

if a nuke was really detonated over moscow it would be an immediate surrender

[lethal ether]

thisw

[dry kayak]

you cut the logistics

[amber matrix]

still

it should do more

[lethal ether]

personally when i see a red warning button my first instict is to hover over it for additional info

[amber matrix]

like make cap progress +25% or smth

[dry kayak]

this, it's a work of Art

[lethal ether]

dont they massively lower war support

[lethal ether]

this is elon musk 🗣️ 🔥

[dry kayak]

i didnt checked

[lethal ether]

they do

and you also cut supply

idk about stability though, that might go down too

[dry kayak]

0 war support

are they gonna give up?

[lethal ether]

nah

[dry kayak]

lol

[lethal ether]

arent there mods that make nukes better

[fallen hearth]

it just says that two mods arent download but

[dry kayak]

they have 0 manpower but still 43k planes this MFS

[dusky burrow]

why does no one have strength or equipment

[lethal ether]

so then thats why ur game is starting with no mods loaded

[fallen hearth]

for some reason all the mods i removed got duplicated and cant be removed

[fallen hearth]

i mean when i had them downloaded it still started with no mods

i will download them again

[lethal ether]

does it say you are subscribed to them

in the steam workshop

?

[fallen hearth]

no

i have no mods subscribed rn

[lethal ether]

dude what

[fallen hearth]

yeah man]

[lethal ether]

to download a mod you subscribe to it

the moment u unsubscribe it gets deleted

[thick vector]

Satisfying

[fallen hearth]

downloading two now

but the others are still there

road to 56 and player led have like 3 copies

for SOME reason

[lethal ether]

who cares

just click on the subscribe button bro

then load in game

[dry kayak]

especially when you keep fixing their micro-daaam encircling

[fallen hearth]

mk

[lethal ether]

how exactly did you download the mods if you arent subscribed to them

[fallen hearth]

i literally subscribed to them

i woke up today

everytime i joined my playset WITH the mods downloaded

the game would just load the base with no mods

i removed everything they were still there

[lethal ether]

yeah idk

[fallen hearth]

i will try to join now

downloaded the 2 mods i use and there is no errors

let's see

[lethal ether]

chat what is my next move? romania and turkey are guaranteed by the allies, yugoslavia is in the allies and albania is guaranteed by italy

[steel zephyr]

oh

[fathom shard]

uhh restarting

[lethal ether]

and do what

i will most likely end up in the same position

[fathom shard]

try to grab more territory before the allies guarantee countries

[lethal ether]

they guaranteed them in 1936

[fathom shard]

yeah idk what mod that is

i thought it was vanilla f or a sec

[lethal ether]

rt56

[fallen hearth]

yeah i just opened the game and there is just no mods even tho i downloaded them and put in the playset

weird

guess im forced to play vanilla hoi4 now

[lethal ether]

go back to the launcher

[fallen hearth]

ok

[lethal ether]

are the mods gone?

[fallen hearth]

no there's just more and the warning

[steel zephyr]

war goals agaitns myself?

[lethal ether]

and the warning says the mods are gone

yeah i have no idea

[fallen hearth]

😭

imma just play vanilla and see what i can do atp

[lethal ether]

ask people in tech support

[fallen hearth]

i think onedrive is causing all this mess

[fallen hearth]

mk

[lethal ether]

why not disable it for a second

and try again

[fallen hearth]

mk

[fallen hearth]

nothing changed

[sleek dew]

sakura can you come normal rp? in multiplayer

[fallen hearth]

mk

[lethal ether]

do the ritual again

install the mods

load the game

[fallen hearth]

aight

[lethal ether]

(with onedrive disabled)

[fallen hearth]

where is it i cant find u

[clever shuttle]

omds i did an iron man game and i was cocky and declared on soviet late game, and i was gonna lose but then the allies came to my rescue this is so beautiful

[sleek dew]

historical rp

channel

or lebe go a luke game?

[lethal ether]

if you want to extreme cheese ironman for an achievement u find hard u can just alt+f4 and load the game again, it will load u a few days earlier

[coarse hull]

i got one as brazil once

[fathom shard]

yo why is mongolia that big

[nova coral]

Guys... how is it possible that 1 division can kill an army with about 9 divisions ... How could i win? Btw these were all not big Divisions and atack divisions.

[clever shuttle]

russian tanks kill my chinese farmers

[fathom shard]

bro russsian tanks are ass

[lethal ether]

if those 9 divisions are eating rocks and fighting with sticks its possible

[clever shuttle]

in 1948 not tho

[fathom shard]

literally in any year

[nova coral]

Man... than this is a bug... I am playing as german against Belgium and Belgium kills my whole army with 1 mio mans...

[fathom shard]

ai doesnt know how to make templatess

[clever shuttle]

bro one tank kill 10 20 width templates of mine

[lethal ether]

screenshot?

[fathom shard]

did you have supply

[fallen hearth]

welp still did not worked

[fathom shard]

and anti air

[nova coral]

Okay. i ragequitet so gimme a sec

[clever shuttle]

nope

[clever shuttle]

no

[fathom shard]

yeah get anti air bro lmao

their airforce did everyything most likely

[fallen hearth]

i will send this to tech support and see waht is happening

[lethal ether]

ask in #tech-support

[fallen hearth]

this is so weird

ye

[craggy trail]

So I'll be taking off for lunch 🥭, but so far it has been a pretty successful war.|| I got the very first artifact of the playthrough.|| ||I will need to prepare the next war with the entire Griffonian Continent.|| ||I think I'll start the war now before the rest of Aquileia and Griffonia unite and gain their cores.|| ||Equestria is all United now.|| @fair horizon

[fathom shard]

can yall tell i like reichskommissariats?

[coarse hull]

five billion horses

[fathom shard]

accurate

[lethal ether]

because they are in the comintern i think

[fathom shard]

bunch of little germanys 🥹

[charred brook]

Guys how long do you think I have

It actually all depends on Austria because they're the only major in my faction

[fathom shard]

leaders lowkey a baddie

[charred brook]

She was Zog's wife but he got assassinated

sooo

[fiery perch]

yo guys i need help what dlc does any youtuber use for so many focus trees or mods hoi 4 got lwk boring without

[fathom shard]

hah unfortunate

[fathom shard]

all of them

[charred brook]

gotterdamerung is good but idk

[charred brook]

I'm only missing the Iran one and bosphorus

[fathom shard]

iran one is disrespectful bro

best part of graveyard of empires is british raj

[charred brook]

I GENUINELY THOUGHT I WAS DEAD

[fathom shard]

i still don't know if anti tank is good in sp

[fiery perch]

all.... which one would u recommend the most for playing side countries like turkey or argentina yk?

[charred brook]

sry i never looked at it

[fathom shard]

turkey ud need bosphorus

[charred brook]

I think we gained territory ngl

[fathom shard]

and argentina the trial of allengiianc

[nova coral]

This is what i dont understand...

[warm falcon]

and my 3rd big pocket in this run

[fathom shard]

gotterdammerung if you wanna play austria or hungary

[nova coral]

How can some few Divisions kill me?

[charred brook]

the front lines still exist

[fathom shard]

BUT before anything get no step back and bba

those are essential

nsb for tanks, flame tanks, and designing those (aswell as polland + sov + baltic state focus tree
bba for designing planes, and italy's focus tree

[terse skiff]

low supply + no equipment + maybe red air = L

[fiery perch]

are those dlcs or mods?

[fathom shard]

dlcs

wait for a sale doe

they do them often

[sharp pulsar]

guys, does somebody wanna play equestria mod?

[fiery perch]

aight tysm

[sharp pulsar]

its my first time downloading it

i have no idea how to play

[upbeat tundra]

the 3 big bois

[nova coral]

what... they have more than enough equipment, the air is in my control and low supply? Nah... only a few and not 90%

[terse skiff]

no they aren't

[fathom shard]

yo look at the supply brotato

[terse skiff]

click one the divisions and click on the yellow bar

[fathom shard]

ur deathstacking like an idiot

[warm falcon]

your divs looks like the need a push from the wind and they fall dead

[fathom shard]

u dont need allat to beat belgium

[terse skiff]

your troops are like 25% equipped

[nova coral]

Its not only belgium my ffiend...

[terse skiff]

and your supply is extremely low

[dusky burrow]

also why is there a victory point called moselland

[nova coral]

Its german... thats why... and its a city in Germany

[terse skiff]

because he got kicked out of that city by belgium

[warm falcon]

thats really interesting

[lethal ether]

yup.. what i said. your divisions are eating rocks and fighting with sticks

[fathom shard]

theyre pushiing thru belgium

[lethal ether]

a dead man would fight better than ur divisions

[fathom shard]

thats what i meant

[warm falcon]

there should be nothing where moselland is

[fathom shard]

and either way doesnt change the fact you don't have supply

[nova coral]

oh sht

[warm falcon]

no its not

[fathom shard]

• combat width is exceeded by oblivion

[nova coral]

... i am speechless

[fathom shard]

which makes 90% of ur units useless

[lethal ether]

motorize ur supply hubs, also sometimes less divisions is better than too many

[fathom shard]

combine that with red air and no supply

you get obliterated

[nova coral]

like paper... i understand

[lethal ether]

also

go to the logistics tab rq

where u see ur equipment

[nova coral]

why?

[lethal ether]

because too many divisions eat too much supply which makes them basically malnourished

and you cant expect them to fight properly

[fathom shard]

because supply and combat width are factors that define that

[nova coral]

hmmm sounds fair

[lethal ether]

go to the equipment tab

im 99% sure youre also missing alot of equipment

[nova coral]

i give up

[fathom shard]

it's like sending 1 million naked soldiers with no weapon against 100k soldiers with armor and guns

[nova coral]

alr.... i fix it now

[lethal ether]

watch a guide

im pretty sure bittersteel does everything with less than 900k men or am i wrong?

[prisma saddle]

why it doesnt rebel?

[fathom shard]

you can realistically win ww2 with like 100k men

or maybe less

[dusky burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYh4OWPe_y8&themeRefresh=1 this might be helpful (it's about ethiopia spawning a vp in afghanistan)

[terse skiff]

i don't think so, you need more than that to do danzig or war

[fathom shard]

925k could be rounded to 900k

[viscid mason]

I thought that was an april fools video

[fiery perch]

sorry for asking again but im in a family and he got the subscribtion for 8.99 and im prefering his dlcs when playing the one setting and if i buy bosphorus for me and im still prefering his dlcs than its like useless right???

[supple halo]

“I am quite fond of Hearts of Iron 4.”

-Heinz Guderian

[vocal bolt]

what does this even mean

am I just illiterate or does this not make sense

[fathom shard]

you can disable or enable dlcs at will

[vocal bolt]

bosphorus sucks ass anyway

[heavy vigil]

look at my economic success in hoi4

[fathom shard]

ncns:

[vocal bolt]

fart vs poop

[fiery perch]

like this

[vocal bolt]

you can just turn off dlcs

from the launcher

[fiery perch]

yesyes ik but i want to use both but he got all of the dlcs beeside bosphorus yk

[fiery perch]

no no i want to use both but he got the rest of the dlcs

[vocal bolt]

ah

dont buy the dlc

gift your friend the dlc

[fiery perch]

ahh okey damn it

aight thx and sorry for confusing u

[dusky burrow]

it was posted at like 11 pm on april fool's, i think it's a coincidence

it's also something that does happen

[fathom shard]

am i winning

the battle

[viscid mason]

Oh fair enough. I didnt really watch the video as I assume it was just Sejo complaining about hoi4 again

[vocal bolt]

division of doom and despair

I should really get dlcs

[worn cliff]

mountaineer on steroids

[vocal bolt]

am out of fun focus trees to play

[fathom shard]

the division in question

[worn cliff]

get mods

[vocal bolt]

no actually its just the weakest mountaineer divison

[worn cliff]

this is good

[fathom shard]

i feed them panzerschokolade

[worn cliff]

80 org super overkill tho

[fathom shard]

aka meth infused chocolate

[fair horizon]

IM GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH SUBS AGAINSAD GJK;SBGLJKQSDANG

[vocal bolt]

honest can be better

[fathom shard]

sfs always have big org

[fathom shard]

how

[fair horizon]

PARADOX WHY

[vocal bolt]

id take out one of the support arty for logistics or engi

maybe aa

[fathom shard]

fuuuuck nah

engi is too expensive

[vocal bolt]

idk about the light recon either

[fathom shard]

and why aa lmao

i got like

100k planes

[vocal bolt]

ah

[fathom shard]

or maybe more actually

[vocal bolt]

not like you will pumpp out gazillion of these divs

special forces cap exists

[fathom shard]

yeah right

can't pump a gazillion

[silent nest]

Do you guys have any favourite doctrine picks for use with marines?

[fathom shard]

i got 171 sfs divs

i could get like

400

or maybe more

[stable nacelle]

кто научит играть?

[fathom shard]

but it's unnecessary

[fair horizon]

chat do i go with sampi run or EAW

[grave sonnet]

Бугарски ?

[stable nacelle]

какой бугарски

[grave sonnet]

Ааа

Руски ?

[prime marsh]

who is ruski

brother

[fathom shard]

i'm thinking of adding rangers

[grave sonnet]

I'm asking if he is speaking russian

At first I thought it was Bulgarian

[prime marsh]

do u know

russian

speak*

aren't you bosnian

why would you even learn russian

[sly venture]

do i puppet them

[sly venture]

i dont want to fight in africa

[fathom shard]

no

if you really don't want t o

then u can

[fair horizon]

we're getting it chat

[fathom shard]

are those good

[supple halo]

The Sapmi achievement?

[vocal bolt]

Lowkey need too many dlcs

wish we could just pick and chose what features to get

there is like 1 feature per dlc I want lmao

it would be cool if we could like chose what trees to get

[vocal bolt]

are med airframes worth it

[sleek dew]

@polar rivet why did you kick me bruh

[fathom shard]

arent those for strat bombers

[heavy vigil]

no

also double engine on small frame is awful for cost

[fathom shard]

it's fine my ic is big enough

but you're right

[heavy vigil]

?

i doubt you have like 40K planes per region

[fathom shard]

wdym

[wispy flare]

Thanks

[fathom shard]

i'm on sp im pretty sure i dont need 40k planes

[wispy flare]

Proof

[heavy vigil]

more damage

[fathom shard]

to who

[heavy vigil]

only then can you consider doing double engine

the enemy forces

[fathom shard]

theres literally no one except south american countries

[terse skiff]

just use single engine, lvl4 single engine has enough thrust

[fathom shard]

not enough thrust

for the stuff i put on it

[terse skiff]

There is enough you idiot

[terse skiff]

Have you even tried putting on the single engine?

[fathom shard]

on the fighters yes

i meant cas genius

[terse skiff]

Oh I meant for fighter

[west path]

dear hoi4 devs: if i need 50% war support for war economy, why doesn't he?

[fathom shard]

yeah i switched to 1 engine on fighters ik that

[terse skiff]

I was responding to the fighter

[heavy vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/724031429234917386/1371943500563873852/togif.gif?width=704&height=940

[fathom shard]

yeah casey also told me the same thing 5 minutes ago

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-the-master-simm-master-saxon-master-john-simm-gif-16237492463717956133

[dusky burrow]

no reason to use double engines for either plane

this is your main cost driver

[sudden thistle]

french civ greed

[heavy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356972726807564492/1408066610144481362/attachment.gif

[sudden thistle]

yummers

[fathom shard]

uh more cas damage?

[clear dagger]

hey it says gullible on the ceiling man

[sudden thistle]

It indeed does!

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-seal-seal-dance-seal-dancing-seal-seals-gif-17832446272461573261

[lethal ether]

lately ive been finding bulgaria so fun idk why

[steel zephyr]

first ussr run ever, got second achievement

first one was romanov's last laugh

[dusky burrow]

Green air CAS would probably look like this I think

[terse skiff]

that is a 1944 frame fyi

[dusky burrow]

I know it is a 1944 frame

guy above me was using a 1944 frame

This might be the yellow air CAS

[snow rain]

too heavy, ditch the electronics

[fathom shard]

yeah makes no difference as germany and in singleplayer though

[dusky burrow]

well you produce almost twice the number of CAS

which is quite a lot

[fathom shard]

well it's 1946 and i have like 3000 mils

and i don't have any

enemy

[viscid mason]

okay at that point you won the game.

[fathom shard]

yeah ik

i just made those designs for the love of the game

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[fathom shard]

you basically win before you even get he 1944 frame as germany anyway

[dusky burrow]

I don't know how good this plane is, but might be good enough

[heavy vigil]

if only you had revolts like vic3.........

[fathom shard]

why do u need the bomb locks

[snow rain]

CAS-Fighter exploit

[heavy vigil]

no

only works in first role

thing

this is just kind of using the slot

afaik anyway

[dusky burrow]

Yeah I didn't know what to do with that last slot

[heavy vigil]

leave it so its compatible

[dusky burrow]

I've been told that you may as well add a range module here instead

[heavy vigil]

ideally on f4 you use cannon 2

[viscid mason]

I wish you could have better ways of suppression in vic3

[fathom shard]

can we stop minmaxing and do wtv we want guys

[dusky burrow]

so it looks like this

[heavy vigil]

why

[fair horizon]

chat i think im going about the whole sampi thing wronmg]\

[dusky burrow]

alternatively with cannon 2

[heavy vigil]

which one

[viscid mason]

If you play Sweden, and annex S-H the north germans are so damn annoying

[heavy vigil]

i dont play that continent

actually no i played portugal like 2 days ago

but besides that no

[fair horizon]

achievement

[heavy vigil]

i got bored as portugal too :(

[fair horizon]

i think i should take over sweden as like norway and then release it

[viscid mason]

yo casey you available to play hoi4 with me tomorrow or saturday?

[fair horizon]

instead of doing it at the start

[heavy vigil]

idk

[viscid mason]

oh

[heavy vigil]

highkey im rlly bad at planning but i have to be with family sometime this weekend

i think (?) sunday

[viscid mason]

ok

[viscid mason]

I also remembered my colonies in Africa collapsing after Niger declared independence from me and being balkanized.

[heavy vigil]

based

[viscid mason]

I was too nice to them. Should've sold them to the UK

[heavy vigil]

you cant

[viscid mason]

*gifted as in give my colonies away

[heavy vigil]

slave trade is only from decentralized african states

no like its not a mechanic

im not saying you cant like morally

the game just doesnt let you

anyway this is a bit off topic

[viscid mason]

fair

[feral hedge]

Perfection

[thick vector]

Are you Indonesian or Monaco?

[viscid mason]

nah that's just a polandball because I used to read lots of PB when I was younger

[heavy vigil]

why are you called vistula when its clearly not polish

[thick vector]

How can I modify an airplane?

[heavy vigil]

poland has "blood under" symbolism for their flag

nation rising above

easy to remember

[viscid mason]

What do you mean Poland is always upsidedown /s

[thick vector]

Indonesia also has a red flag which symbolizes blood.

[dusky burrow]

do you have by blood alone dlc?

[heavy vigil]

yes something about ripping away the dutch blue too

[prisma steppe]

why instead of putting rockets you put big solid tung tung tungsten rod at the front and call it a day

[thick vector]

No

[dusky burrow]

tungsten rod does not kill planes

this is a fighter

[dusky burrow]

air designer comes with that dlc, so that's why you can't edit planes

[prisma steppe]

war thunder tactics would have a word with you

[thick vector]

[dusky burrow]

also final design that i've been suggested btw

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/festthefestivefest-morgone-jones-morgan-jones-red-eyes-tweaking-gif-11342181710823863580

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[woeful knoll]

just spam early fighters

[whole matrix]

im asking for someone I heard discuss his issues, he wants to know what he did wrong and why he is permanently banned from the DMT realm

[stark elbow]

thank you to whoever there said to me that italian navy could beat uk, in fact, i landed on the isle 3 times in the run by now

[unkempt zodiac]

yummers

[dusky burrow]

well, just spam improved fighters

[unkempt zodiac]

dude please just get the dlc 😭

[woeful knoll]

Welcome to hoi4

[dusky burrow]

the improvement between improved fighters with engine 4 and advanced fighters should be marginal

[woeful knoll]

Where the ai is so braindead

[clever shuttle]

how can I as an non alligned country go to democracy. without having any advisors or focuses

[dusky burrow]

i have the dlc

[thick vector]

I want to use Türkiye later, is it better to be in the Axis or Allies faction?

[unkempt zodiac]

huh

[dusky burrow]

where do you think i'm making/copying these designs

[woeful knoll]

which country?

you need to say your country if ur asking country questions bro

[sly venture]

it is 2 am rn and I looked back while playing hoi4 and I just see a 10 foot tall figure just waiting for me to admit I see it

[clever shuttle]

manchukou and now chinese empire

[whole matrix]

because I need it to continue to have issues so I can remain having a job

[unkempt zodiac]

the focus tree is basically useless, you have to manually justify for all the wars

you get no war goals

[woeful knoll]

Do you have a focus tree?

[prisma steppe]

wait let me cook a meme real quick

[sly venture]

turns out it was just a tree tho

[clever shuttle]

yes but i already done everyone there

[whole matrix]

AI is doing me a favor everytime it hullucinates

[woeful knoll]

unless you want to use console i dont think you cant

[sly venture]

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[clever shuttle]

ok

[woeful knoll]

check if any of your advisiors add democratic support

[thick vector]

I'll just be neutral and attack Bulgaria, then join the allies to fight the axis later

[woeful knoll]

Dont play turkey

[whole matrix]

Always ask it questions it has no answers for, like why the man is banned from the dmt realm.

[unkempt zodiac]

thats no fun bro, you can pretty much steal all of the balkans and romania if u time it correctly and still have time to kill uk before the us joins war

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[fathom shard]

greece is just a better turkey

play that instead

[woeful knoll]

Maybe play ottomans once

Thats it

[unkempt zodiac]

TERRIBLE

you cannot core ANYTHING until VERY late game

[woeful knoll]

Oh noooooo

You dont get CORES

What will we ever do

[grave sonnet]

Only good path is ottomans and the focus tree is long asf

[warm falcon]

the only problem with ottoman empire are the brits

[whole matrix]

So do Greek soldiers still get intimate with eachother after they win a battle like in ancient times?

[unkempt zodiac]

and its a relatively bad focus tree too

[woeful knoll]

that what im saying

[warm falcon]

i hate that you cant make peace deals after you get certain regions

its just so annoying

[grave sonnet]

Paradox abusing the 70 day focus gimmick for Turkiye 😭

[woeful knoll]

Do you want total war?

[whole matrix]

@fathom shard you have to know

[warm falcon]

no

[woeful knoll]

YES

If you want bhutan, you have to capitulate the usa

Simple

[whole matrix]

Ah I see the fudge is still being packed, the tradition continues.

[sly venture]

turkey focus tree gives me a headache

Greece is way more straightforward

[grave sonnet]

Trash Vs Garbage

[safe wing]

Doesn’t Bhutan not recognize the USA along with most of the world intrestingly enough

[whole matrix]

Just pick the nation you want and stay the course, whats the point of picking everyone elses favorite country when its supposed to be a sandbox

[forest osprey]

Can you play as a nation you release

[sly venture]

don’t disrespect the goat Greece like that

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

um

[forest osprey]

Thanks

[safe wing]

Greeks and Turks in Medieval 2 total war: @grave sonnet

[grave sonnet]

Bulgaria my goats

[woeful knoll]

German ai is broken currently

Your fine

[sudden thistle]

im using sheeps mod

so

[woeful knoll]

nah but genuinely is this a good strategy?

[sudden thistle]

no

[prisma steppe]

sometimes

[grave sonnet]

It was always Тцариград never Constantinople

[sudden thistle]

how tf does one pronounce that

[safe wing]

Wasn’t Constantinople Byzantion originally

[grave sonnet]

Anatolian and greek region are pretty fun in that era

[woeful knoll]

Instanbul means coonstrantunople

[grave sonnet]

Tzarigrad

[sly venture]

when i first started hoi4 i broke through maginot with the starting template

[sly venture]

Am I the goat

[safe wing]

Byzantion was the original pre Roman name

[sudden thistle]

coonstrantunople

[safe wing]

Byzantium was the romanized name

[sudden thistle]

love it

[grave sonnet]

ˈt͡sariɡrɐt

[safe wing]

It only became Constantinople as it was originally called Nova Roma

[whole matrix]

You mean Lygos

[woeful knoll]

Last roman emporer died in 2011 BTW

[winged glacier]

Anyone here in a hoi4 cult

[safe wing]

Who?

[grave sonnet]

Bro what 😭

[whole matrix]

Before Greek colonists founded Byzantium (c. 657 BC), the settlement on the site of Constantinople was known as Lygos. Likely of Thracian origin, this early settlement was established between the 13th and 11th centuries BC, with its remnants found near the modern-day Seraglio Point.

[woeful knoll]

Otto von hasburg

[safe wing]

Ah I see

[prisma steppe]

Istanbul greatest german second capital🇩🇪 ❤️ 🇹🇷

[sly venture]

Byzantine sucks

[safe wing]

Title wise yes

He was the last Roman emperor

[sly venture]

I got 4/20 on Byzantine history

so this is a valid take to hate it

[grave sonnet]

Couldn't Handle Slavic Migration ☝🏼❤️❤️

[woeful knoll]

Rome -> papal -> carolingan -> HRE -> austria -> austria hungary

[halcyon pasture]

but San Marino is RIGHT THERE

[safe wing]

Isabella and Ferdinand bought the titles from the Palaiologos as well

[sly venture]

Roman Empire originated from Macedonia mountain goats btw so its Macedonian

[sudden thistle]

or I could just say Istanbul

easier to say anyways

[safe wing]

As part of the family still had holdings in Monfratte

[woeful knoll]

Byzantine history: In ____ they lost the battle of ____ and then lost all of ____

[grave sonnet]

So bassicly you mean it's Bulgarian?

[woeful knoll]

wow

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

I like Tzarigrad

Because of Larp

[prisma steppe]

where licht-stein

[whole matrix]

no wonder this game has alot of historic inaccuracies people just ignore 700 years of history like it didnt exist

[sly venture]

average Byzantine history is either
Option 1: the Byzantine became I rich super power or
Option2:the Byzantine empire lost everything was in dept and in a polital crisis

[safe wing]

Or Andrionkus II disbanded the army and navy while Anatolia was under serious threat

Which was the last major collapse imo

[woeful knoll]

Genuinely why

[safe wing]

That and his civil war against his far better grandson Andronikos III

[sly venture]

the Greek revolution genuinely fire tho

[sly venture]

I actually studied it

[safe wing]

It’s like disbanding 80% of your army and navy in hoi4 when fighting another nation

Which is something you should never do

[fair horizon]

Any nation should be able to rename it to constantinople if they conquer it

[woeful knoll]

i love how theres a decision to rename mongolia for every country but not stuff like constantinople

[sudden thistle]

ottomans, german empire, and austria hungary

[safe wing]

EU4 and Medieval 2 with renaming mechanics and abilities meanwhile:

[sudden thistle]

fire emoji

[sly venture]

Historical btw

[fair horizon]

Real

[prisma steppe]

hungry during the 14th century

or shortly before ottomann

[woeful knoll]

You literally puppeted england in the peace deal instead of using the reichkommisar system mate

Is this ragebait or just stupidity

[safe wing]

Hungary did a better job fighting the ottomans than Byzantium did in the 1300 and 1400s

They only fell apart in the 1500s

[grave sonnet]

Annexation is better

[sly venture]

raigbait

[fair horizon]

Using the reichcommisariots is stupid

[woeful knoll]

Why?

[fair horizon]

Puppets retain cores whereas the reichkommisariots dont have any cores

[sly venture]

nah it’s not it’s a big button that changes color of a country and that lowkey gives a small amount of dopamine

[woeful knoll]

German protectorate of nowhere vs AUSLANDEN KOMMISAR AGENKRIEG

Do it for the rp

[sly venture]

so it’s better to do it

iykyk

[fair horizon]

So they can either have zero resistance or all of it

[whole matrix]

yeah this game loves to protect one side and not the other side, its like you can have european war criminals in the game but japanese, lets leave those guys out.

[jade parcel]

all the multiplayer servers have a different version than me i cant join them

[prisma steppe]

every state independent puppeting would have a word with you

[sly venture]

when I join multiplaying I get a 100% nerf and can’t even take uk as Germany

[whole matrix]

Need to erase them from "history" for historical integrity

[vital cove]

nah

[prisma steppe]

its so fun larp wise puppeteiring the whole of europe in like 1-3 state countries and then calling them to war, they may be uncoordinated as fukc but its fun watching them descend like a wave upon the enemy

[vital cove]

nah

im the last Roman emperor

prove me wrong

[vital cove]

he did not not have the title of Roman emperor

[prisma steppe]

what

[vital cove]

nor was he emperor of Austria, even if the emperors of Austria were claiming the title, which they didn't

[prisma steppe]

huh

[vital cove]

that's a real thing that happened after ww2

[prisma steppe]

forced migration

[forest osprey]

Did it not happen before?

[prisma steppe]

doesnt it look kinda familiar?

like to a diffrent kind of relocation?

[forest osprey]

There were relocations within Poland with the new borders but there were ones in Germany too pre war

[vital cove]

happened after as in. it was something that right after ww2 happened to a significant degree

[vital cove]

yes it does

[prisma steppe]

2-3 million germans fled west during the end and after ww2

let me look rlq there is a graph

[vital cove]

you mean the east?

oh

fled west

not from west

reading issue

[sudden thistle]

I think i civ greeded a bit too much

[prisma steppe]

and i think hungarians and poles are also affected

[prisma steppe]

weak

do 1k civs in '40 as usa

[sudden thistle]

u do it

[prisma steppe]

did it

it was cancer

[vital cove]

the whole of Poland moved after the war yes

[sudden thistle]

and ofc italy is dyinh

great

my only ally

[prisma steppe]

2 more world wars and poland is gonna touch tips with the netherlands

this mod has such cracked modifiers for the eco

like -125% consumer goods

[sudden thistle]

im guessing thats the mod u used

[prisma steppe]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

zamn

[prisma steppe]

but still had the -50% construction speed mod too

and the hoi3 style construction queue

[primal silo]

Put the game on Steam on sale pls

[prisma steppe]

how does INA have soo many divs

they got like no manpower there

more then fukcing austria-hungry

[vital cove]

I've started to play this once but it was too bloated and stupid that i stopped

[vital cove]

most single country rework mods are silly

[sudden thistle]

i had to cheat their army to make them win agasint czechslovakia

forgot to revert it and did it now

(italy will die a horrible death anyways)

[vital cove]

if Libya revolts against italy, they'll actually spawn with 15 divisions

[sudden thistle]

INA was also there since gamestart

since the capital supply helps italy during africa on historical

just got free africa cores 😛

[whole matrix]

Tibet shoudn't even be a country in this game.

its crazy how anti asian this shit is and im not even Chinese

[prisma steppe]

its bloated but its expected

you have focuses for preparing for alone against the world

like it starts slow and then you realise its almost as cracked as the greece rework

[whole matrix]

so much euro spin on the history of Asia its madness.

https://tenor.com/view/dirk-nowitzki-smile-gif-7948643

https://tenor.com/view/dirk-nowitzki-dallas-mavericks-mavs-dunk-serge-ibaka-gif-19643849

[subtle wharf]

Trying to sea lion how do I get naval dominance? I try to select my fleet on patrol in the English Channel but it doesn’t do anything

[winged field]

They need to find the fleet first.

If you are not using like scouting ships it will take more time

[subtle wharf]

So send dds on patrol?

[winged field]

Which DDs now?

[subtle wharf]

I’ve got 17

[winged field]

But like are they torpedo ones or what's their design?

[subtle wharf]

You want a screenshot?

Oh I have zero clue prob just default

[winged field]

Design your own ships always bcs the starting ones are ass

[subtle wharf]

That’ll take too long at this point

I’m ready to go now I just did the sea lion focus

[winged field]

Well uh good luck I guess. Just make sure you have 3-4 destroyers per your capital ship

[subtle wharf]

I’ve got 17 destroyers 2 battleships 10 cruisers. So do I send the dds out first to scout?

Subs? I got like 30 of them

[winged field]

Don't remember if the ones you get as default are scouting ones. But no you stick all stuff into one taskforce

[vocal bolt]

can someone reccomend a fun nation

also why dont I have the doctrine for horse

[winged field]

Communist lux :>

[vocal bolt]

How will I fix the manpower issue

[winged field]

That's the key

Being communist :>

[vocal bolt]

Also you cant just plop down level 10 forts anymore

ok ill give it a try

am out of fun nations anyway

[winged field]

You get free weekly manpower with army spirit and from communist focus tree

[vocal bolt]

I dont have army spirits

[winged field]

Oh rip. You can still get weekly mp from focus tree at least

But that kinda slows your manpower potential so yeah

Communist lux won't be for ya

[vocal bolt]

Then what

[winged field]

What dlcs you got?

[vocal bolt]

basicaly none

all the ones I paid for became free

[wild sedge]

Damn

[vocal bolt]

if I had known id just get other ones

[winged field]

Idk if you would consider it fun but you can cap Germany as Czechoslovakia with spacemarines

Like solo pretty much

[vocal bolt]

already done

[wild sedge]

Personally my definition of fun is restoring monarchies.

I am König so I am biased

Roman Empire, German Empire, Russian and Austro-Hungarians…

HOLY ROMANS

Papal States?

[winged field]

Austria Hungary locked behind dlc too

Idk about the others

[wild sedge]

It is all DLC locked 😅

Kills to have DLC

[winged field]

Swiss supremacy ?

[vocal bolt]

dlc

[wild sedge]

You can’t really do monarchies without DLC

Swiss are DLC

So memey

[vocal bolt]

kaiser route is still a thing without götterdamerung

[wild sedge]

Alpine Confederation 😂

[winged field]

Right

Rip

[wild sedge]

Ye

Kaiserin Victoria more fun

[vocal bolt]

lowkey want arms against tryanny

[winged field]

Did you do European union or is that locked too?

[vocal bolt]

sweden tree seems good

[wild sedge]

Same

[wild sedge]

Locked

[vocal bolt]

done

what

no

[wild sedge]

I think?

Idk

I forgor

[vocal bolt]

I did

[winged field]

The non aligned one

[wild sedge]

I dont really do EU runs

[wild sedge]

I thought EU was democratic?

[winged field]

Anything outside of eu is like playing a different game xD

[wild sedge]

True lmao

AMERICA

USA PLAYTHROUGH

CLOSE YOUR EYES

[winged field]

There is one democratic but also there is one you can form as non aligned

It has a cool flag

[vocal bolt]

factory tycoon

[wild sedge]

300 mils 💀

1000 convoys

[loud shuttle]

tuff game

[vocal bolt]

I formed "the empire" last run

world conquest as uk

[wild sedge]

I once did the “Our Other Place in the Sun”

[winged field]

Imperum Roma?

[loud shuttle]

i hated this one

[winged field]

Or is that dlc too

😭

[wild sedge]

Get a Caribbean holding as Imperial Germany

Not DLC

[wild sedge]

DLC

[vocal bolt]

every nordic run in hoi4 is just forming the leauge, and every balkan run is just forming the austria hungarians

[vocal bolt]

the empire is the name of eu if you form it as the uk

[wild sedge]

“A Great Hunger” is pretty easy (DLC)

Just form Greater Hungary 🤷‍♂️

[winged field]

Honestly it's bum that it's locked behind dlc

P2W achievement

[wild sedge]

Yeah

[loud shuttle]

fr

[sly venture]

nahhhh gold mine

[grizzled zenith]

Do cruisers count as screens or capital ships?

[sudden thistle]

Light cruisers are screens

Heavy cruisers are capitals

[grizzled zenith]

Ok, thanks

I'm just spamming light cruisers

[rough tendon]

Meta is light cruiser and shbb with 2 main batteries and rest dual purpose secondary guns spam but that’s just the meta you can do other stuff

[vocal bolt]

I like building fully decked out cruisers and torpedo destroyers

[wild sedge]

Personally

[rough tendon]

Destroyers are kinda useless when light cruisers do way more

and most nations already start with enough destroyers

[grizzled zenith]

That's what I've been building as Ireland since the start of the game and surprisingly like 10 of them was enough to invade Britain(I didn't research any navy)

[rough tendon]

The meta template for the lights is 3 light cruiser batteries rest secondary

I was about to say yeah that’s the rlly old cruiser

[wild sedge]

I use dirt cheap destroyers with one main battery and level one torps
Then spam lights packed with torps
Then a few heavies with a cheap heavy battery and loaded with secondary guns
Then BBs with speed and loaded with AAs
Then carriers with all deck space
And then frick submarines

[grizzled zenith]

Does the one on the bottom count?

[wild sedge]

Yes

[rough tendon]

Wdym bottom

[grizzled zenith]

Ok

[grizzled zenith]

There is a top row and a bottom row

[wild sedge]

Like secondary and AA on the bottom slot

[rough tendon]

on the builder?

The top and bottom things

[wild sedge]

Yeah

[rough tendon]

ohh

yeah the bottom is perfect

the top should have 2 light main batteries

[wild sedge]

Yup

I personally love me some secondaries

[rough tendon]

and 2 dual purpose or normal secondary battery’s

[wild sedge]

And holy speed

Dirt cheap destroyers are the best

Only costs 894 production

[rough tendon]

me personally I don’t rlly like destroyers

[wild sedge]

Just spam spam spam

Useful for screens