The only thing I see canada or Saf or the raj or Australia and new Zealand is spamming a whole loada ships and troops.
#hoi4-general
restive sable
The only thing I see canada or Saf or the raj or Australia and new Zealand is sp...
canada is kind of promising
maybe a non-aligned path consists of accepting british royal family in canada should britain ever become communist
and seizing their american holdings and some of their navy
and aiming to reclaim britain
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Id say
restive sable
yes very kaiserreich or kx coded whatever but it'd make for interesting gameplay
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I forgot the name but the mod where Germany wins ww1
That
And royal family is in canada
restive sable
democratic path could involve loyalty to britain or going seperate ways (maintaining commonwealth ties or going republic)
and assuming you go seperate ways with britain you could either make your own faction or buddy up with the US
warm falcon
ok huh, since when does france move their capital before paris is conquered
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This thing for god
Why do their flags and colour stay the SAMS
SAME
Even when getting INDEPENDENCE
restive sable
yeah that part is annoying
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It annoys me so bad I just dont get why
restive sable
this is hyperspecific but when burma gets independence from britain they'll keep the british guy in charge
when they DO have another democratic portrait in the game
warm falcon
syria and lebanon are french
restive sable
not sure if all those other puppets have alternate portrait though
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syria and lebanon are french
Yea, in general
restive sable
syria has another portrait for non-aligned
restive sable
yeah makes sense
restive sable
non-aligned britain flag should be changed
restive sable
it should be this
restive sable
Britain should become england
im pretty sure they do
restive sable
democratic i assume
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And it dosent even work the majority of thr time
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democratic i assume
Only worked with fascist for me
warm falcon
ok
restive sable
When the soviets lose Ukraine all the other ones ykyk
i personally think that certain releaseables should have focus trees
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Because it only happens SOMETIMES
warm falcon
i reached a date where the game will crash
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i personally think that certain releaseables should have focus trees
Ukraine
Maybe
restive sable
Ukraine
the major russian releaseables for sure
ukraine, belarus and georgia for sure
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But why on earth do they sometimes stay as the soviet union when losing everything or sometimes become green and become communist russia thing thing
I dont get it
vivid juniper
I wish Russia had a democratic path
restive sable
I wish Russia had a democratic path
me too
restive sable
i personally don't like the USSR tree that much
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I don't that much
restive sable
i only like the monarchist path
the historical path is fine and nice
but i find historical paths boring
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Am I the only person that when looking at the stan area that it just looks off 😭
Idk why it just looks OFF
But when I look at another map it dong
vivid juniper
Australia from the Dev corner looks promising though
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Dont
vivid juniper
I am not a fan of the navy*
tulip thorn
i personally don't like the USSR tree that much
its fine, but most of the paths arent that great
Like you said, the historical and monarchist ones are pretty much the only good ones
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The US being a major and having a very bad focus tree:
tulip thorn
I do love naval larp as monarchist russia
vivid juniper
The US being a major and having a very bad focus tree:
They desperately need a new focus tree
Since all the other majors, have one
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Really do.
tulip thorn
Since all the other majors, have one
uk and france
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Yes
restive sable
uk and france
UK's is the best of the three
tulip thorn
UK's is the best of the three
Very true
restive sable
France's is lackluster but it's good enough for the time being
the US tree is so damn boring
atomic grove
what on earth is kaiserreich 1.6.7
foggy scaffold
The only focus tree i kind of like in france is the napoleon one
restive sable
The only focus tree i kind of like in france is the napoleon one
agreed but it's boring still
vivid juniper
France's is lackluster but it's good enough for the time being
I had a good time with France. It’s serviceable.
restive sable
you just get wargoals and a crazy buff
tulip thorn
I had a good time with France. It’s serviceable.
I just want a good france tree
tulip thorn
The napoleon one is the most fun
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That one Italian land I forgot the name off
tulip thorn
But gives nothing but wargoals
restive sable
I just want a good france tree
i want the napoleon path to be like RT56's Napoleon path
dusky burrow
oh okay
warm falcon
But gives nothing but wargoals
so does basically the german tree
tulip thorn
i want the napoleon path to be like RT56's Napoleon path
I actually have never done the rt56 Napoleonic france path
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German tech tree is nice.
vivid juniper
I just want a good france tree
The Bonapartist one is pretty fun, but I wish France was upgraded
restive sable
I actually have never done the rt56 Napoleonic france path
i must recommend it
it's a very fun game
kx napoleon path is really fun too
misty fossil
what on earth is kaiserreich 1.6.7
67
vivid juniper
i must recommend it
I tried playing it once, but I got bogged down in Germany
Otherwise, pretty solid
restive sable
On Germany
as i've said i don't really enjoy playing historical paths usually
foggy scaffold
So what was the dlc for the benelux called again?
tulip thorn
kx napoleon path is really fun too
I have done the kx focus tree
I just dont play road to 56
misty fossil
i want my austria save back
no
tulip thorn
Not a mod that I enjoy
restive sable
So what was the dlc for the benelux called again?
there's no benelux dlc
vivid juniper
So what was the dlc for the benelux called again?
It’s the German DLC
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O
vivid juniper
It gives Belgium a good fun tree
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Ok besides
restive sable
belgium is in GDR, netherlands was in man the guns
restive sable
It gives Belgium a good fun tree
i just dont like how the monarchist path is locked behind becoming capitulated
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WHY no Luxembourg tree
Ok im ngl
Theres 2 provinces that annoy me
With the german empire and the Russian empire
vivid juniper
i just dont like how the monarchist path is locked behind becoming capitulated
That one barely counts
restive sable
That one barely counts
it's still there
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With the german empire and the Russian empire
Well one is Eupen-Malmedy
Which
I wish was a province thing
German empire bla bla
Ans then
The Armenian land in turkiye
That russia used to have or smt
Oh yea and communist Germany is just broken btw
Like
If you accept communist influence but ban it
Still get a civil war.
With 0% support or sum
restive sable
Well one is Eupen-Malmedy
should be a province
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should be a province
Yes
Ngl i feel like
Korea should have a focus tree
Dno whg
Why
Like if japan
Well Korea gets released many ways so
restive sable
Korea should have a focus tree
fully reasonable
id say
at LEAST give syngman rhee a portrait 😭😭
kim il-sung has one but not syngman rhee (starting leader of korea)
foggy scaffold
Korea would be nice.
As a focus tree
And why doesn't Mongolia have 1.
Doing the Mongolian empire
Hm
restive sable
Doing the Mongolian empire
even aside from that mongolia still has a bunch of potential i feel
mengukuo asw
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Yeah.
Hell
A lot of countries do
Trying to think of some
Did
Thailand get a new focus tree
At all
restive sable
Trying to think of some
id say out of releaseables: ukraine, belarus, georgia, armenia, croatia, korea and pakistan should get one
restive sable
Thailand get a new focus tree
they're getting one with ToaG
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O
I would say Croatia should have 1 yea
But what elseee
Ehhh
Does Indonesia have a focus tree
Dont think they do
If they arent are they even getting 1
restive sable
If they arent are they even getting 1
they are
restive sable
next countries that are getting one are Siam, Indonesia and Australia with ToaG
and Czechoslovakia and Slovakia are getting stuff with the focus pack
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So new Zealand getting left out like always?
And slovakia??
I mean
Would make sense
Whatd even be next??
Like actually
restive sable
Whatd even be next??
id assume that the US and UK are next
i mean looking at patterns
they integrated waking the tiger then germany got a rework, then china and japan
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I god HOPE
torpid stump
Anyone down to do a sheeps mod run
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id assume that the US and UK are next
Its the US and Uk
restive sable
So new Zealand getting left out like always?
no clue but it def looks like it rn
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Sad NZ
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Oh HOI gods, please oh please Great powers rework
iron iron
It just doesn’t work
restive sable
I dont think SAF even has a good focus tree
it's garbage
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They need one
restive sable
i dont really know where they'd throw it in with though (dlc wise)
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Africa
restive sable
maybe a potential country for another focus pack?
i really hope the czech rework goes well
restive sable
id honestly like to see more of stuff like that
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Id love to play Czechoslovakia
And become a fortress
But
Why is current Czechoslovakias fascist tree just
Give up sudeten
Become puppet or not puppet
Anyhow
If they do Czechoslovakia
Future should be yugoslavia & romania
Albania dosent even
Albania should.
restive sable
Why is current Czechoslovakias fascist tree just
"czech fascism is when you suck germany off"
i hate how that's also poland's fascist path
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"czech fascism is when you suck germany off"
Yes.
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i hate how that's also poland's fascist path
Poland has two choices tbh
upbeat tundra
i hate how that's also poland's fascist path
and polands communist path is suck off the soviets
restive sable
possibly the most anti-german pole to ever live
and his path involves
giving land..
to the germans..
genius
restive sable
and polands communist path is suck off the soviets
yeah but that makes a billion times more sense then dmowski giving even an inch of land to germany
restive sable
Polska hates soviet
i mean the communist authorities in charge didnt care
they moved the entire country west
upbeat tundra
yeah but that makes a billion times more sense then dmowski giving even an inch ...
nah the big adolf just lent him eva for 1 night
restive sable
after all
upbeat tundra
and thats all that was needed
restive sable
nah the big adolf just lent him eva for 1 night
truth
foggy scaffold
i mean the communist authorities in charge didnt care
Hey, lets go west!!! Okay!!
restive sable
jokes aside the path revolves around giving POLISH land to germany
to claim eastern land from the soviets
that dmowski really didnt want all that much
he wanted a homogenous polish state not a multiethnic one
just doesnt make sense at all
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Some dont make sense
upbeat tundra
average hoi4 ai led conference
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average hoi4 ai led conference
My eyes
Where's the bleach
Who dosent love when the ai makes 1 country into 2 countries and then they become a very ugly colour
restive sable
average hoi4 ai led conference
beautiful
foggy scaffold
I wonder how the ai decides to make 2 separate countries?
upbeat tundra
Who dosent love when the ai makes 1 country into 2 countries and then they becom...
get ready for 1-1-1-1 infantry
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Ive also had the annoying problem of trying to change a government for the ai to jusg contest me to ONLY CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT AS WELL
LIKE WHAT AI IS THIS
restive sable
why does the ai make such stupid borders
instead of going for literally anything logical
upbeat tundra
ship of theseus reich
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Because
Ive had them nearly 40% of my game
Somehow have less points than me
AND TAKE EVERYTHING
HOW does that work??
upbeat tundra
HOW does that work??
its musolini sucking off adolf to give him more score
restive sable
AND TAKE EVERYTHING
they core the land
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Ive had them nearly 40% of my game
Every game i ally with them should I say
upbeat tundra
play with player led
restive sable
so it's cheaper for them to take their own cores
restive sable
What the whole ass British empire??
oh that
nvm
thought you meant when italy goes civil war and caps
sob
upbeat tundra
average italy starting div:
upbeat tundra
I need an explanation deadass
claims
restive sable
average italy starting div:
this is horrendous
upbeat tundra
this is horrendous
20 org 500 break
upbeat tundra
italy the second u step foot into it:
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Whenever I invade them late or whatever, CIVIL WAR!
Oh, you want an actual peace deal with just yourself?
Nope!
REGNO DE SUD
I forgot
upbeat tundra
the second u step foot in italy
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How to
upbeat tundra
big sud comes
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They dont even
upbeat tundra
upbeat tundra
this is why i invade regno after and put everything on harsh oppresion
they deserve it
faint fiber
why isnt it working
foggy scaffold
O I love nuking Italy to oblivion
restive sable
O I love nuking Italy to oblivion
valid reaction
craggy trail
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And mr musso becomes no ones puppet.
So
Fisifie
I cant with Italy
I swear to god id make a faction called pineapple pizza and invade them as it
Fhsiekfkd
Is there a bully italy mod.
I need one.
I just realised its 4:21 in the morning
Fuh
Ah god im not being tired so im going to sleep
cinder adder
why are my graphic settings not saving
like i se my hz to 165 and it just resets to 50 everytime
foggy scaffold
why are my graphic settings not saving
You did ask that in the help thing you know.
misty fossil
insane pearl harbour pull
silk fern
why is hungary still a puppet of germany 😭
dusky burrow
insane pearl harbour pull
their mistake for basing their fleet at pearl harbor
misty fossil
real
dusky burrow
of course irl they would, but in game the obvious best anchorage is in the philippines
imagine thinking japan is a threat
just naval invade them
copper silo
why is hungary still a puppet of germany 😭
for the memes
restive sable
just naval invade them
is the us stupid or something??? just nuke them 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
dusky burrow
is the us stupid or something??? just nuke them 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
overkill
just walk to tokyo
(i'm being serious btw)
dusky burrow
do you nuke the sidewalk when you go to the store?
maiden bolt
j''
karmic viper
what
primal timber
something happened
dusk knoll
they need to fix that thing with america where its like "invest in the infrastructure of x state" but the state already has max infrastructure
unkempt sun
does anyone know any ww1 hoi4 mod that isnt scripted
tulip thorn
no I mean north korea is south korea and south is north
Thats how its always been wydm
lilac ginkgo
does anyone know any ww1 hoi4 mod that isnt scripted
The great war redux
Its not necessarily scripted
unkempt sun
that mod is so scripted
halcyon pasture
terrifying
lilac ginkgo
that mod is so scripted
But both the CP and entente can win,its just that at a point the german army(as it did irl) just kinda begins starving so they gotta surrender
rocky breach
faint fiber
what other traits do you think Puyi would have?
south mountain
But both the CP and entente can win,its just that at a point the german army(as ...
Do you recommend the mod?
alpine hare
man I haven't played Japan since Götterdämmerung
Havent even played it in its latest focus tree
grave sonnet
https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969
Truth nuke
Translation : the world is doomed
ember vine
what other traits do you think Puyi would have?
"20th century chud"
-20% women approach
-50% chance for offspring
+0.20% daily fascism support
faint fiber
"20th century chud"
-20% women approach
-50% chance for offspring
+0.20% daily f...
some people think he was gay
faint fiber
"20th century chud"
-20% women approach
-50% chance for offspring
+0.20% daily f...
also children dont matter in hearts of iron 4, surely you know this smartass
ember vine
Mfs that dont get humor:
Puyi when throne
Dude was japan's lil femboy he couldn't have ruled China
Chad Kai Shek on the other hand
Shoutout to the real kuomintang brothas keepin it real in Taiwan
supple halo
Always knew Big Shek was chill af…
faint fiber
Puyi when throne
just answer the f**king question, was Puyi gay? yes or no
ember vine
Always knew Big Shek was chill af…
ember vine
just answer the f**king question, was Puyi gay? yes or no
Who cares he ruled a joke puppet state
supple halo
Did you know his son served in the Wehrmacht for a while?
faint fiber
Who cares he ruled a joke puppet state
I care, now give me a bloody answer
faint fiber
well then you are useless for what im trying to do
ember vine
Yall gonna make personalities out of sexualities now like cmon that's kinda sexist from my perspective, leave the guy alone he died a long time ago and he did what he thought was right, I just don't agree with him because he was in the Axis
faint fiber
Yall gonna make personalities out of sexualities now like cmon that's kinda sexi...
he was forced to be in the axis
ember vine
He had a chance to be useful to ROC
Or CCP
He chose an empty promise
From China's biggest enemy at the time
Collaborators are at fault there is no amnesty
Japanese mfs had enough of Manchukuo they literally wanted war with China to not be there lmao
They rather fight away from it
faint fiber
From China's biggest enemy at the time
and how many promises did the ROC break when talking to puyi? the republic had their chance
ember vine
and how many promises did the ROC break when talking to puyi? the republic had t...
"Villains are made not born" mentality
ember vine
do you really think the communists would have accepted an emperor?
They literally let him live after the war lmao
faint fiber
They literally let him live after the war lmao
and brainwashed him
ember vine
and brainwashed him
Bro was brainwashed by imperialists
Bro was brainwashed by everyone
faint fiber
and only because Mao wanted to one up the soviets, and make himself look better, he didnt actually care about Puyi
ember vine
Mao was Mao but Chiang was Chiang
faint fiber
Mao was Mao but Chiang was Chiang
no shit sherlock
ember vine
I'd rather mop the streets than rule a chunk of my country as a puppet state of war criminals
supple halo
✋ ⬅️🇬🇧
faint fiber
Rhodesia
ember vine
Republic of biggest uninhabited shithole joined Allies
Republic of biggest uninhabited shithole has called the United Kingdom as our enemy
supple halo
💀
ember vine
Hoi4 logic
misty fossil
damn
mystic nest
*Republic of biggest uninhabited shithole joined Allies*
*Republic of biggest un...
it really should be harder to call in ai nations into your wars
ember vine
it really should be harder to call in ai nations into your wars
We should get this instead of new small responsibilities
Call to war process
Sometimes it's just skipping justification
mystic nest
yes bruh why can i as like a bum ahh nation like lesotho call in the united states into my wars
it makes literally zero sense
dusky burrow
*Republic of biggest uninhabited shithole joined Allies*
*Republic of biggest un...
i mean if it is a big uninhabited shithole why haven't you capitulated them yet
ember vine
yes bruh why can i as like a bum ahh nation like lesotho call in the united stat...
Lesotho aint even in the game dawg
ember vine
i mean if it is a big uninhabited shithole why haven't you capitulated them yet
Maybe it's an island
They can join allies before your troops even depart from the naval base
mystic nest
Lesotho aint even in the game dawg
i know mate im js saying
ember vine
Also they usually capitulate and don't give up the first few days
So they join a faction in miliseconds
dusky burrow
They can join allies before your troops even depart from the naval base
true
it takes a week to capitulate any nation
island nations are really easy to capitulate though
the triple wammy of force attack, shore bombardment, and air
and if you're attacking someone like malta you can use railway guns too
ember vine
island nations are really easy to capitulate though
Except when it comes to UK or Japan and their stupid fleet
Imagine getting more maxxed out cruisers and battleships than the UK and they still kill your fleet like it's nothing
dusky burrow
Except when it comes to UK or Japan and their stupid fleet
yeah
primal timber
the axis will surely tremble in fear
dusky burrow
the axis will surely tremble in fear
special forces are powerful
mystic nest
Japan, less so
the japanese fleet hanging out in micronesia while marines are boots on the ground in tokyo
at least the home fleet stays mostly where its meant to
dusky burrow
the japanese fleet hanging out in micronesia while marines are boots on the grou...
precisely, you get it
ember vine
difficult to capitulate the UK while it's already in a war
1 marine is all it takes to make UK shit out their flakes
Like literally there's no stopping you after you land in their cores
I managed to land a few times and they just leave a few weak divisions
I usually land on the east or near Liverpool
I got Die You Perfidious Albion that way
fair horizon
HELLO HOI4 CHAT
fair horizon
Fine
dusky burrow
it really depends
sometimes i land and the uk has strong forces
other times and it's nothing
fair horizon
If you land any tank divs on the british isles you win
ember vine
sometimes i land and the uk has strong forces
That's why you get that piece of shit that Italy is just to distract them in Africa or sum
dusky burrow
yeah that does work
iron iron
the axis will surely tremble in fear
Oh my god
thick vector
the axis will surely tremble in fear
What do you think this country can do to help?
lethal ether
What do you think this country can do to help?
5 divisions from nepal, 5 divisions from another small country, 10 divisions from here, another 10 divisions from there and it adds up lol
fair horizon
What do you think this country can do to help?
you've never seen the bhutanese land cruiser division
thick vector
you've never seen the bhutanese land cruiser division
Yes
heavy vigil
yeah that does work
hiii liv!
heavy vigil
you've never seen the bhutanese land cruiser division
hiiii vendrip!
mystic nest
casey is the meta still to build civs as germany till nov 38
heavy vigil
hellooo derpy
heavy vigil
casey is the meta still to build civs as germany till nov 38
the meta is to make 1 civ
thick vector
hii mradin!
Hello too, why are you suddenly greeting everyone?
heavy vigil
afaik
heavy vigil
Hello too, why are you suddenly greeting everyone?
want to say hi :)
mystic nest
the meta is to make 1 civ
ohhhh nevermind i think i might be thinking about the hmm mod
dusky burrow
you've never seen the bhutanese land cruiser division
bhutanese land cruiser division mention
thick vector
want to say hi :)
Is your greeting just a sign of presence, or an invitation to start reasoning about the world together?
weary totem
yes voltaire, you are correct
misty fossil
casual 3k damage lol
winged field
weary totem
casual 3k damage lol
lol ground battles
mystic nest
germany feared the bob semple tank so much they never invaded new zealand
mystic nest
lol ground battles
allat without carriers is pretty impressive
i find that my carriers are usually doing most of the work when i make a navy
weary totem
allat without carriers is pretty impressive
carriers are useless, one super BB and just spam CLs for massive cheap light attack
mystic nest
carriers are useless, one super BB and just spam CLs for massive cheap light att...
but.. muh cool veterency..
misty fossil
lol ground battles
mystic nest
theyre pretty much required in mp anyway
weary totem
i mean, 95 destroyers sunk in a single battle, the royal navy was so scared to fight me i had to lure them with a stack of old subs
weary totem
bro u need more screens
misty fossil
bro u need more screens
nah im playing with a mod that decreases the amount of screens i need
weary totem
its simple math, more screens is more light attack, more light attack means their screens are gone, when their screens are gone they have no light attack, when they have no light attack the cant get your screens and your whole navy is safe and the opps are sitting ducks
misty fossil
also that one carrier was a tiny escort carrier i put on anti sub patrol
mystic nest
nukes being able to capitulate nations if you throw enough nukes at them is such a good change
for sp
obviously it wouldnt be very balanced for mp cuz every game would just be a nuke rush
and itd be pretty boring as the two sides sit back and throw nukes at each other
weary totem
italian navy bad? lol xXn00bslayerXx
mystic nest
does expert ai fix ai navies
actually does sheeps fix ai navies
ive been playing sheeps but i havent gotten far enough to sealion the uk yet
weary totem
does expert ai fix ai navies
idk no one playes any other difficulty than normal and civilian
mystic nest
idk no one playes any other difficulty than normal and civilian
no the mod
ive been playing sheeps
weary totem
ohhh
mystic nest
and it more than fixes the ai
weary totem
i thought difficulty
weary totem
its fixed it so well that i cant cap france as germany
so the uk sends divisions to help france?
mystic nest
so the uk sends divisions to help france?
EVERY
allied nation
sends divs to help in france
BRAZIL was in france
my last run
weary totem
thats unhistorical
mystic nest
i know
sheeps is meant to play like
mp
the ai will do anything to beat you
france will release all its african terriotires so they do their factory focuses
weary totem
mp without mp sounds like hell
mystic nest
then reincorporate them to get a massive industry
weary totem
literally worst of both worlds
mystic nest
britain will throw the entire BEF into belgium
just to stop you from going around the maginot
its crazy
and
they will pull out multiplayer meta heavy tank destroyer divs
just in case you even THINK of having medium tanks
🥀
mystic nest
literally worst of both worlds
well your allies play competently too
problem is im playing worse than my sheeps ai allies
weary totem
well your allies play competently too
x doubt
weary totem
woah
mystic nest
its just that its really really hard to break through the entirety of the allies if they all choose to sit in northern france
and the inf divs have anti tank and crap
i havent even been able to test if sheeps fixes naval ai
because i get railed too hard on the land to think about navy
yeah play sheeps if oyu have complaints about vanilla ai
youll stop complaining very soon
unless if youre already familiar with the mp meta
i had never played a sweaty mp game before
dusky burrow
they will pull out multiplayer meta heavy tank destroyer divs
yeah, good thing that they usually aren't well equipped though
which is unfortunate
france doesn't get enough ic to fully equip its tank divisions a lot of the time
but yeah sheep's is hard and we often see people get stuck in belgium
mystic nest
but yeah sheep's is hard and we often see people get stuck in belgium
i get through luxemborg and encircle belgium but i cant cap france
ive only done two runs though
so hopefully i get better as i go
mystic nest
yeah, good thing that they usually aren't well equipped though
they still ruined my day when i ran into them with my mediums
🥀
dusky burrow
rough
that said, it should be easy enough with heavy tanks
you could also consider a maginot gamble too
mystic nest
you could also consider a maginot gamble too
maybe
where should i train fort buster though
in china/
?
dusky burrow
well doubt you can get fort buster tbh
mystic nest
aw man
mystic nest
that said, it should be easy enough with heavy tanks
first run i did medium second run i did 36w inf spam
dusky burrow
there's a fort tile in shanxi's capital
mystic nest
both failed for different reasons
mystic nest
there's a fort tile in shanxi's capital
yeah i remember ther ebeinga fort somehwere in china
so i was hoping to train my general there
dusky burrow
there are also forts along the coast of china i believe
mystic nest
there are also forts along the coast of china i believe
yeah
dusky burrow
first run i did medium second run i did 36w inf spam
didn't go special forces build?
mystic nest
didn't go special forces build?
ope
ill try that this time
im just cycling through everything to see what works lol
their cas HURTS
i might need to make cas farms
it freakin hurts
even poland puts up a decent fight they have like a hundred divs
or some stupid number
dusky burrow
their cas HURTS
might want to add aa to divisions then
i assume you aren't getting aerial supremacy?
mystic nest
might want to add aa to divisions then
i did
mystic nest
i assume you aren't getting aerial supremacy?
i was fighting for it but they had so many fighters
and they were good fighters too i swear
the entire allied air force was in the benelux
heavy vigil
hiii liv :D
dusky burrow
hi casey :D
dusky burrow
and they were good fighters too i swear
yeah they are good fighters
i think though your fighters do trade well with them
ember vine
Lapua Movement had an epic logo
dusky burrow
roughly how many planes and how many tanks are you getting on eve of benelux invasion btw
ember vine
The Finnish fascists literally had a dude ridin a bear swingin a club lmao
faint carbon
please somebody explain me how the event for senor hilter got triggered in 1943 while i'm at war with germany and hilter is still alive?
mystic nest
roughly how many planes and how many tanks are you getting on eve of benelux inv...
i dont remember for sure but at least like maybe nearly 2k planes
dusky burrow
please somebody explain me how the event for senor hilter got triggered in 1943 ...
tbh idk
mystic nest
i remember not being too concerned about plane coutn cuz poland even tho they sent over their air fforce
it was still manageable
but it was a nightmare in the benelux
ember vine
please somebody explain me how the event for senor hilter got triggered in 1943 ...
I always wanted that event
heavy vigil
hi casey \:D
how was your night?
heavy vigil
please somebody explain me how the event for senor hilter got triggered in 1943 ...
berlin taken?
or germany capped
one of the two was the requirements i forgot
ember vine
Did you know that generic portraits are made by region not by country? I once accidentally puppeted germany in a few islands in asia and it had an asian generic portrait with a german name lmao
mystic nest
tf
ember vine
His name was literally adolf from what I remember
Nutsy asians
If I helped them regain Germany then they'd have an asian lookin leader lmao
And they could regain rights to the german focus tree maybe
sand heath
guys
fair horizon
hiiii vendrip!
Hi casey
fair horizon
how to return forces? (from a puppet)
Hit the trashcan button
sand heath
oh alr
fair horizon
i feel like making a big naval defense today
Is it by form of big navy?
fair horizon
heavy vigil
i mean the navy is relevant
fair horizon
Are cruisers or destroyers more ic efficient for that
mystic nest
Is it by form of big navy?
best naval invasion defense is always to just have dominance
preach
fair horizon
best naval invasion defense is always to just have dominance
Not even tbh i just like boats
mystic nest
lmao
charred mulch
thick vector
How to deal with consumer goods?
warm otter
How to deal with consumer goods?
war economy
heavy vigil
Are cruisers or destroyers more ic efficient for that
youre not gonna like the navy build
ill go into coastal defense ships later
misty fossil
thick vector
war economy
I know, but there are other ways
fair horizon
youre not gonna like the navy build
No... its not minelaying subs is it?
uncut pollen
And i think you need to cencore some things
misty fossil
oh i forgor
fair horizon
CASEY IS PLAYING AUSTRALIA
heavy vigil
No... its not minelaying subs is it?
wowie
misty fossil
2k defence lol
snow rain
2k defence lol
That 1.6k sa is strengh deleting the enemy ahah
misty fossil
yeah
heavy vigil
You should have 5 dockyards whats the last one producing?
big australia and
misty fossil
lol i love nuking ships out of existence
snow rain
lol i love nuking ships out of existence
German light carriers??
misty fossil
German light carriers??
no fleet carriers
snow rain
As astounding somehow
misty fossil
its modded ai behaviour
snow rain
What dlc gives a bigger German focus tree
Gottamerung
iron iron
Cheers
misty fossil
why do i have an italian fleet in my dock when im at war with them??
heavy vigil
i love bloat
indigo elk
What sort of division would limit casualties? I assume tank divisions and mechanised?
I want to do a world conquest with Britain but RP as though my troops lives actually matter 🤣
misty fossil
airstrip one lol
snow rain
What sort of division would limit casualties? I assume tank divisions and mechan...
Divs with high HP, high breakthrough and field hospital (and logistics if individualexcellence doctrine)
At 950hp you virtually take barely any casualities
Most you can reasonably get would be 700 with atk amtracks
indigo elk
Divs with high HP, high breakthrough and field hospital (and logistics if indivi...
Sooooo, limited fronts and pump out big divisions with the above stat focus?
snow rain
Yup
Note that breakthrough only need to match the enemy stats. Extra brk dont do anything
You'll never need more than 500 base brk in singleplayer, 400 if you have air
HP is "more=better" logic though
light goblet
is rexist or vnv the better belgian fascist path
fair horizon
i love bloat
Is that a mod?
misty fossil
their tanks cant stop my inf lol
heavy vigil
Is that a mod?
sheep
sudden folio
Help 😭
iron iron
Ww1 ah borders
misty fossil
why does the german ai not take autarky achieved when it can absolutely take it and let econ of conquest tick to 100%??
sly venture
do i switch to goring i always do todt
indigo elk
I don't suppose anyone has an updated list of which divisions to send where for the UK fascist focus tree?
sly venture
but goring buffs look so good
sly venture
do i switch to goring i always do todt
?
snow rain
dumdum ai
safe wing
WHY DID USA JOIN ALLIES IN 1941
Wdym they did that at the end of the year historically
terse flint
Finally got all the dlcs
wide tapir
do i switch to goring i always do todt
stay todt for fast hitler
snow rain
speer is better iirc
you use todt at first but you end up with speer
goering is fine but less useful
sly venture
is this a good early plane
sly venture
Small airframe = single engine
bro we dont have the budget
snow rain
if you want more engines you use bigger airframe
sly venture
we really dont
sly venture
ditch the armor plates and you're fine
what do i add
iron iron
Wdym they did that at the end of the year historically
Whenever I play they always join in like 1944
snow rain
is this a good early plane
reminder :
#ask-for-help-here message
basic rules of plane design :
1 - If you're not using all the thrust, you're doing something horribly wrong
2 - small airframe = 1 engine, medium = 2 engine. Period. If you don't respect that, then you're doing something horribly wrong
3 - Air attack, range and air defence are to be maxed out in this order of priority from top to lesser
4 - Range should always be at a bare minimum of 800km (it isn't great to be clear), 1000 is what you want to aim for a good light airplane. There is never too much range to have
5 - Light fighters always out-trade against heavy fighters, except in the pacific (where heavy fighters win due to light fighters lacking range and not being able to use superior numbers). Heavy fighters are a almost always a waste in singleplayer
6 - Agility and speed are useful but not primordial
7 - Heavy MG are the gun to use before you get canons 2 (1944 tech)
8 - Electronics are always a waste, except for strat bomber meme
snow rain
what do i add
nothing, you use single engine and no armor plate and you'll have enough thrust
sly venture
wont they gett shredded in the channel
snow rain
no
the first rule is essential to good plane design
otherwise you're just wasting IC away for no reason
dry kayak
sly venture
snow rain
early german plane can be either what you have but single engine and no armor plate or : engine 2, 1 canon x2, 1 4xlmg, extra fuel, turret
or, better yet, two x4 HMG, single engine 2, self sealing fuel tank, defense turret, and focke wolf mio
sly venture
armor or extyra fuel
snow rain
that's fine but air defense isn't really useful, except if you do port strike mission
because you never want to use CAS in contested air
snow rain
what the hell
sly venture
ok so etra range
snow rain
my first question : why motorised rocket arty along with inf ? don't you see the speed ?
dry kayak
what the hell
i dont know bro, i'm steamrolling the frontlines with this ahhahaha
snow rain
i dont know bro, i'm steamrolling the frontlines with this ahhahaha
well, not because it's good
if you really want to use line arty, at least use arty, they get buffed, rocket arty doesn't
and don't use motorized
pay attention to combat width and don't use useless support companies like motorized recon 😭
dry kayak
if you really want to use line arty, at least use arty, they get buffed, rocket ...
i had 22k surplus of isuzu
but yes, motorized are useless LOL
dry kayak
pay attention to combat width and don't use useless support companies like motor...
i compared the recon and the motorized is better than cav ones and it boost more
why is shouldnt use the mot recon?
snow rain
and the cost of that thing is 5 9inf, support arty, support AA divs
or, better yet, that's about 170 medium SPGs, 78 top tier CAS planes or 60 top tier fighter planes
snow rain
i compared the recon and the motorized is better than cav ones and it boost more
the boost is abysmal
dry kayak
i mean, if i can afford it why not?
i understand to not use it until i have the proper prod
btw i removed the motorized line arty 
snow rain
either use light tank recon (for breakthrough stacking), better if you have No step back DLC
or, better for low budget, use recon rangers
and if nothing else, just slap support Super heavy howitzer or recket arty in there
dry kayak
i didnt check the speed factor
dry kayak
either use light tank recon (for breakthrough stacking), better if you have No s...
rangers?
snow rain
i mean, if i can afford it why not?
because being able to afford something doesn't mean it's good to buy it
I can afford 800 rubber duckies but I won't buy it just because I can, I only buy 800 rubber duckies because I need them
and if I don't need them I invest the money to buy 800 red rubber duckies which I need instead
dry kayak
yeah, better to convert rubber for planes
snow rain
rangers?
yes, it does require Arms Against Tyranny DLC though, with special force doctrines
dry kayak
thnx
dry kayak
yes, it does require Arms Against Tyranny DLC though, with special force doctrin...
oh i dont have it
snow rain
shame, it's probably one or even the best DLC (the rare one to have positive reviews and never go into mixed too)
dry kayak
i was looking for the gotterdamerungbungdungbungdung dlc, but the base game seems to have 90% of the dlc stuff
dry kayak
shame, it's probably one or even the best DLC (the rare one to have positive rev...
maaaaaybe i'll buy it
snow rain
i was looking for the gotterdamerungbungdungbungdung dlc, but the base game seem...
yeah, only buy GTR if you're interested in mediocre special projects (only the nukes and cruiser subs are kinda fun tbf) and wacky ahist germany paths + focuses for belgium and austria
everything else is free, sooo yeah
dry kayak
i have nukes and raids with the base game and special projects too, for me it doesnt have sense to spend 10€ for a slightly bit more content and 2 factions that i'm not gonna play lol
snow rain
completely fair
dry kayak
btw i'm imagine now the troops seeing the MPs taking away the trucks for the arty: "ok guys, from now on you have to pull these sh*t around with your legs"
snow rain
horses
snow rain
and you can say shit, it' part of my favorite term of abysmal dogshit, they can't take it away
dry kayak
and you can say shit, it' part of my favorite term of abysmal dogshit, they can...
i never risk on server, someones are iperpoliticallycorret/f*g brained LOL
There's a live stream on Steam for HoI4
seems a pro game live
i cant remember: if i'm allied with a country that has a city that i have to take for an objective does it count as i have it?
sudden folio
Js took over the ottomans
dry kayak
Js took over the ottomans
more kebabs for the Reich!
misty fossil
lol
vital cove
i love bloat
so this is the highest hp you can get in game
unless im missing something
snow rain
so this is the highest hp you can get in game
individual excellence doctrine ?
snow rain
can you attack in a mountain and lose to see how many guys die ?
hell, force atk as well
prisma steppe
Js took over the ottomans
huh what year is it?
heavy vigil
unless im missing something
theres probably something dumb
well, you wouldnt really want mech if you want it cheaper
vital cove
can you attack in a mountain and lose to see how many guys die ?
ugh, im trying but my allies get in the way. imma finish this war then go fight Japan
heavy vigil
i dont wanna play hoi rn so
wont look for u
but theres probably some buff i missed
like sweden or something which i dont play
also like
idk
vital cove
my k/d so far battleplaning the eastern front with 70 divisions is 60k:1.1m
no encirclement happened
using inf, not the mech
so its like 1066 hp
misty fossil
average 36w push be like
viscid stirrup
What does tuesday have to do with anything
Just backstab your allies
Oh come on
Anyone can beat clankers
Oh come on
Anyone can beat ai
late valley
Js took over the ottomans
mod name?
sly venture
the type of stuff people swear will happen if you play at 5x speed]
sudden folio
I cant remember atp
late valley
I cant remember atp
alr its fine
prisma steppe
the type of stuff people swear will happen if you play at 5x speed]
this the type of shit i relish in in my 2 widths spam strat
rapid furnace
I kinda wanna mack a mod the makes the french foucs icons look better
late valley
Its js crasheed
What r ur pcs specs
prisma steppe
oh le hole in frontline and there is a new frontline
heavy vigil
What does tuesday have to do with anything
sudden folio
Oh its called empire into the orient
late valley
Oh its called empire into the orient
alr thx
rapid furnace
Because i found a mod that revamps all the foucs icons for the majors minus france and japan
sudden folio
It probs crashed cuz the russians stacked 154 divisions in crimea 😭
misty fossil
https://tenor.com/view/isopod-dance-silly-silly-guy-bounce-gif-90985017472133893...
him
rapid furnace
I mean the soviet foucs tree looks better in my opinion
vital cove
theres probably something dumb
forgot medals are a thing
heavy vigil
forgot medals are a thing
1000 hp and 100 soft attack or 1000 soft attack 100 hp XD
viscid mason
Hello
heavy vigil
misty fossil
vital cove
wait
sly venture
THIS HAS TO WORK
misty fossil
doesnt work
vital cove
hell, force atk as well
i do take casualties actually
prisma steppe
4000 soft attack
weak
heavy vigil
i do take casualties actually
get field hosp 5 to reduce losses
prisma steppe
do 255k as swiss tanks
misty fossil
the battle took long enough for "reinforcments" to arrive
lmao
sly venture
THERE IS NO WAY WE LOSE THIS
viscid mason
You know what I kind of wished was a thing in hoi4. A way to substitute equipment for certain battalions without having to use xp to change battalions. Such as using trucks for mech until actual mech comes or substituting medium tanks or spgs for modern tank battalions. As irl germany had to improvise panzergrenadiers with trucks and the usa didn’t throw out all their Sherman just because they have Patton tanks.
heavy vigil
You know what I kind of wished was a thing in hoi4. A way to substitute equipmen...
battles in hoi4 suck
best 10y anniversary would be an entire overhaul to the battle system lol
unrealistic tho
that makes it more sensible and not particularly more beginner hostile
viscid mason
More likely to make hoi5. Hoi4 is just hanging on for dear life imo
heavy vigil
idk up to them
misty fossil
lol wha
heavy vigil
they can change game code if they want yk
to whatever degree they want as well
im making statements based on mostly how i observe the development
prisma steppe
THERE IS NO WAY WE LOSE THIS
thou need to also do air in the watuh
cause yknow bri*sh carriers
sly venture
are we using papaer planes
prisma steppe
are we using papaer planes
i think they getting intercepted early no?
light goblet
manchukuo is the worst playing expereience ever
prisma steppe
manchukuo is the worst playing expereience ever
the humble shandong
light goblet
lie
prisma steppe
play non hist shandong
sly venture
what the hell
prisma steppe
no eco, no equipment and you get slimed from all side
light goblet
idk all ive played for manchukuo is independence war
sly venture
what the hell
how do i stop this
heavy vigil
what the hell
convoy raiding does that
sly venture
convoy raiding does that
how do i stop it
heavy vigil
i think they getting intercepted early no?
nah
bad planes, bad numbers, bad airzone coverage, bad efficiency and detection
heavy vigil
how do i stop it
pre emptively bomb everything in the channel with navs
and also during the invasion
and you should research improved airframe a lot earlier
prisma steppe
so why does shitty 2 width spam work on ground but not in the air
sly venture
pre emptively bomb everything in the channel with navs
i have 100% control on the channel
prisma steppe
so like 5000 shitty biplanes vs 500 normal 41 planes doesnt work for some reason
but 5000 shitty 2widths work against 250 normal divs
prisma steppe
holy we are shredding them
coughing 2 cylinder vs atomic engine
misty fossil
are we using papaer planes
i think you need better planes
rapid furnace
Playing finland
desert echo
Are we still expecting for overhaul
young dawn
Are we still expecting for overhaul
yoo @desert echo i have joined
desert echo
Yeah
This is Hoi4 discord server
There are tons of mods here but I always play without one 😅
young dawn
There are tons of mods here but I always play without one 😅
ah nice
desert echo
How long have you been playing Hoi4?
safe wing
battles in hoi4 suck
Battles in Medieval II and Rome total war are better
icy egret
There are tons of mods here but I always play without one 😅
You should check some out, they have lots of good content
young dawn
i used to play HOI4, i played for like 4 years
desert echo
You should check some out, they have lots of good content
I know, but I only prefer watching them
young dawn
There are tons of mods here but I always play without one 😅
by mods you mean DLC's right ?
desert echo
No, DLC and mods are different
icy egret
No like total overhauls
sly venture
young dawn
No, DLC and mods are different
i only played with few DLC's
icy egret
showing this to a vanilla only player would kill them
strong belfry
showing this to a vanilla only player would kill them
what mod is tis
icy egret
what mod is tis
TNO
young dawn
showing this to a vanilla only player would kill them
is it blackice ?
strong belfry
is that a submod? my tno doesnt look like dat
icy egret
is it blackice ?
TNO
icy egret
is that a submod? my tno doesnt look like dat
The economy screen is part of every country in The New Order (except anarchists and Burgundy after Himmler shoots his economics minister)
noble bolt
anyone know if there is a server tag for HOI? (for discord handle name I mean, like I have IL-2 right now)
icy egret
yeah it’s called HOI
thick vector
Is production licensing good?
misty fossil
what mod is tis
Novum vexillum
misty fossil
Is production licensing good?
yeah its meta. People who play minors usually rush some techs like mechs or gun 3 to get them early and license them to their friends who play as majors so they dont have to use a research slot on them
icy egret
Novum vexillum
No it’s not.
thick vector
What level is the artillery?
misty fossil
No it’s not.
misty fossil
What level is the artillery?
67
icy egret
kill modern day players
icy egret
i only played with few DLC's
Do you like my Griefmarchen playthrough 
young dawn
Do you like my Griefmarchen playthrough <:JuiceCat:1146436837775245414>
yooo, thats dope
misty fossil
Be serious
Well i dont know what your question is supposed to mean
icy egret
yooo, thats dope
usually people just call me a degenerate furry and tell me to off myself when I post EaW content your the first Person to ever actually be positive thank you
misty fossil
Do you like my Griefmarchen playthrough <:JuiceCat:1146436837775245414>
Can you show me the focus tree
Is it good
icy egret
Is it good
Tbh I would recommend it, there’s much newer paths like the one from earlier today.
misty fossil
storm kingdom?
scenic spade
is this fine
thick vector
Well i dont know what your question is supposed to mean
Seriously, I mean, what level is artillery enough for?