hoi4-general

[prime marsh]

just bad at cooling

after all laptops are useful

[lethal ether]

what was your pet dinosaurs name?

[patent thistle]

let me make a picture rq if my phone lets me

[lethal ether]

i have to agree, imagine having to buy a "coolpad" just to game for more than 30 minutes

[fair horizon]

ive asked every person that wants a laptop i know if they'd move with it or if it would just sit in one place. the answer was sit in one place for all but one person

[lethal ether]

i used to have a laptop and i just put it on my desk and never moved it

[fair horizon]

right

[lethal ether]

is hoi4 compatible with steamdeck

i wonder

[prime marsh]

that can be caused by family pressure sometimes

in my country

families mostly

wants laptop

for university

studying

but no one does that

[fair horizon]

i mean i asked people i know and i live in iowa, but none of them travel and none of them want to move around the house on a computer so

[lethal ether]

cant you just use a phone

[fair horizon]

studying is the one exception to the laptops suck thing imo

[lethal ether]

i think the correct answer is just have both if you can, a cheap portable old small laptop and a pc for gaming

[prime marsh]

I mean they are trying to seem like intelligent I guess

[fair horizon]

personally id just have a pc for everything

[prime marsh]

but no one cares when you study with a laptop or phone or book

idk

I don't study

not my problem

[patent thistle]

that my laptop charger

but hey atleast still 16 gigs of RAM, not a chromebook after all

[fair horizon]

chromebooks are awful lmao

high school made us use them for the last few years

[lethal ether]

ddr1

?

[patent thistle]

they get faster hot then an american if someone slightly touches a boat

[sinful isle]

What is a good mountaneer template?

[patent thistle]

ddr4

[fair horizon]

they didnt seem to understand all the monitoring crap they put in there bogged the computers down lol

[lethal ether]

WOW

[patent thistle]

i upgraded the laptop overtime

[sinful isle]

Im at the start and i dont use them as much but ive decided to give them a try

[patent thistle]

fujitsu makes laptops that last and are upgradable not the crappy apple trash

[lethal ether]

macbooks actually last

they arent made for gaming

theyre made for comfort

[prime marsh]

who is comfortable with an apple product

[lethal ether]

me

[prime marsh]

weird

[patent thistle]

"they are made for work" ik ik but i cant stop hating on the closed in system of apple and the fact they completely removed the ability to upgrade things by yourself

[patent thistle]

2 words, magic mouse.

[fair horizon]

or replace broken parts

[lethal ether]

macbooks have touchpad

[fair horizon]

comfort

[lethal ether]

u mean the apple ecosystem? its actually kinda nice to touch ur devices togheter and transfer files while maintaining quality without having to download everything

[patent thistle]

you Can in technicality repair them, if you buy the stupidly expensive equipment that costs more then 2 new macbooks

[fair horizon]

my friend used to work for verizon and they were his least favorite products to do anything with because even when you did stuff correctly the fix didnt work and then you had a whole new hastle

[lethal ether]

android is also good but i just preffer apple

[patent thistle]

oh how much i dispise those, i have long fingers and not so small hands, everytime i have to use those it feels like i am carrying quite litterally an old flip phone

[fair horizon]

tbh i hate android too but the options are slim

[prime marsh]

apple is just about camera quality

[fair horizon]

smh women amirite

[woven gate]

my phone's apple and it's pretty good

[patent thistle]

i have to curve my fingers up to a 135* radius just to be able to use it

[fair horizon]

couldnt even be wooed by his battleplans

[prime marsh]

too expensive

[fair horizon]

i refuse to use them after they got caught slowing down older devices

[prime marsh]

prc makes the same for cheaper price

[woven gate]

i've got a reason to not buy from there

i don't like china

[prime marsh]

I don't like china as well

but still they make cheap and good products

[patent thistle]

that i actually understand, older devices batteries do die faster due to wear, so they intentionally slow down the device to make your phone battery last longer

[patent thistle]

is there anyone who unironically likes china that isnt from china?

[fair horizon]

it was to coerce apple users to buy a new phone

[patent thistle]

so does when your battery dies faster then germany invaded denmark

[woven gate]

people in africa who don't know what's going on behind the scenes

[fair horizon]

i dont think most phone batteries die within a year

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[woven gate]

and people on tiktok

[patent thistle]

i meant it in a way that even if your battery isnt dead it will eventually wear itself down under active use

[prime marsh]

better than getting bombed for a "nuclear weapon research"

[fair horizon]

oh for sure but a year old device shouldnt be degraded enough unless you've been using it as a hammer

[woven gate]

it's kinda like this

[patent thistle]

if you are using it like those tik tok kids? it sure as hell will

[prime marsh]

absolutely like this

[patent thistle]

your battery quite litterally degrades in a year if you do things like let it run out of battery fully and recharge it to full

[heavy vigil]

👁️

[prime marsh]

🤔

[patent thistle]

👀

[fair horizon]

literally 1984

hi casey

[patent thistle]

be right back gotta do something rq

[plucky turtle]

yeah yeah

[flint widget]

vichy france navy

[plucky turtle]

secret recipe?

[safe wing]

Well yeah that’s why the UK destroyed half of it in 1940

[flint widget]

luckily that hasnt happened yet

[safe wing]

And Vichy France itself scuttled the other half in 1942

[flint widget]

i swear all you need to do against ai is refit your LCs to have light attack, maybe add a carrier or two and just add modern fire control

[sinful leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1485710303504109730/1485711721577451622/caption.gif

[safe wing]

Anyways watching the new monarchist paths for hoi4 ranked

[buoyant portal]

ai quite sucks at navy. I also suck, but i know how stuff works so i end up destroying them in a few battles.

[flint widget]

oh and refit the BBs with +15% armour mio

[safe wing]

All the Congo ones are at the bottom

[sinful leaf]

random femboy gif

[flint widget]

so enemy cant pierce

[plucky turtle]

oh god

[buoyant portal]

Played hoi4, don't you see?

[plucky turtle]

he has seen much i suppose

[plucky turtle]

what about multiplayer?

i think players suck more than ai do right?

[buoyant portal]

i played one coop multiplayed with a new player.

for like one hour

[safe wing]

Alright fr who cares about the kings of the Congo, Rwanda and Burundi in hoi4

[buoyant portal]

so i cannot say anything about multi.

[plucky turtle]

fair

[buoyant portal]

gotta grab them achievments.

[toxic cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-man-covering-mouth-lol-in-tears-gif-18016812431523599211

[flint widget]

id love to try mp but i cant play for 8 hours straight

[safe wing]

Other than achievements

[toxic cypress]

"autism didnt exist back then"

[buoyant portal]

it's called ck3 seducer trait

[safe wing]

Toy soldiers did

But not hoi4 or war games

The first RTS game was dune II 1992

[toxic cypress]

the first rts game was actually called war

[winged field]

so true

[toxic cypress]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_tactics

[safe wing]

I’m watching the 28 monarchist paths from the last 3 DLCs ranked

Can anyone guess what number one is

[toxic cypress]

im tryna add maronite to vic3

[buoyant portal]

china or japan

[toxic cypress]

(not fun)

[buoyant portal]

i bet it.

[safe wing]

Germany

Imperial Germany

[buoyant portal]

hre?

[safe wing]

No imperial Germany as a whole

Because the eu

[buoyant portal]

so not the Viktoria secret thing?

[safe wing]

That’s included too

[buoyant portal]

i have not checked about the Viktoria secret path in a long time

Did it change with Goterdamerung?

[safe wing]

I Have

[safe wing]

Somewhat

But not really

You still gotta do the uk thing

But you aren’t allied with them anymore

[plucky turtle]

gotterdamerung*

[buoyant portal]

Danke!

but no use if you do not put the Umlaut.

[safe wing]

Congos best monarchist path is literally the mittleafrika one

[plucky turtle]

i have finally learned how to write that long sh*t word without googling the spelling and i am using this ability to the last minute of my life

[buoyant portal]

I smell german bias

[safe wing]

You can core most of Africa

[plucky turtle]

kein problem mein frau !

[buoyant portal]

keine* meine*

[toxic cypress]

btw i find all the names

i will become a maronite

[plucky turtle]

nein ich dinke mein cuz i am a male?

[toxic cypress]

where do i even source maronite names

[buoyant portal]

und ich bin keine Frau. :p

[wide osprey]

it is english only server

😟

[buoyant portal]

yeah i know

[plucky turtle]

who said you are?

[buoyant portal]

I was just messing around for a few messages, dw

[plucky turtle]

NEIN NEIN NEIN !

[safe wing]

That’s in inglorious bastards though not downfall

[buoyant portal]

it's the guy from hoi4!

[plucky turtle]

WDYM

[plucky turtle]

yeah the guy in remilitrize the rhein focus

[safe wing]

Nah that’s the guy who rapped against Darth Vader

[plucky turtle]

didnt know hoi4 was that popular to make a movie based on the game chracters

[buoyant portal]

but isn't he the property of paradox interactive?

[safe wing]

True

[buoyant portal]

hoi4 lore is so good it is taught in schools.

[plucky turtle]

yeah

[fathom shard]

[buoyant portal]

except it's called "history" like historical mode turned on.

[plucky turtle]

they even banned the paradox owned german flag because of how good it was

[fathom shard]

😘

[plucky turtle]

the word ,,history,, actually apeared in 2017 after hoi4 was realeased by a year and ofc we all know it is based on the phrase in hoi4 ( historical AI prioritisation)

[safe wing]

What flag mod is that

[plucky turtle]

if the 20129 rifles are the source of your power then what are you without them

• a guy named scorates

[safe wing]

Because that is not the flag Byzantine empire has in vanilla

[fathom shard]

immersive flags

[buoyant portal]

Scorates

[safe wing]

I have that one I think or something like it

[fathom shard]

the vanilla byzantium flag is so ugly

[plucky turtle]

yeah cuz maybe the right name might have copyrights? who knows

[safe wing]

Byzantiums flag in eu4 meanwhile is beautiful

[fathom shard]

the same person because i don't have enugh convoys

[safe wing]

As it’s the same flag in the mod your using

[buoyant portal]

Can't wait for the phylosoph Marckus Aurrelius

[plucky turtle]

but it has short lifespan ) :

[safe wing]

Also Byzantium is more fun in Eu4

[safe wing]

When played by the ai yes

When played by the player like me…

[buoyant portal]

1820 and still need some states in south germany...

[safe wing]

I ran out of time 😭

[buoyant portal]

also i do not remember if you also need part of England

[fathom shard]

the pp gain as byzantium is insane bro

and you dont have anything to spend it on too

[safe wing]

They changed it where you just need a certain number now

[fathom shard]

this isn't too hard tbh

[safe wing]

That’s what I’m saying

[fathom shard]

though

it takes

TIME

ive conquered europe as bradenburg before

[safe wing]

At least I don’t have to deal with hoi4s resource system

[fathom shard]

i was going insane at some point

[heavy vigil]

hi vic3 players

[buoyant portal]

People do not like the resource system?

[safe wing]

I don’t like the way it’s distributed

[buoyant portal]

Happens...

[fathom shard]

it's pretty annoying

[buoyant portal]

Today i wanted to play as USA and make a big fleet... but i lacked steel and chromium...

[safe wing]

China which is the same size as the USA btw has less than 1/4 of its resources

[flint widget]

i think its about whats in place to extract the resources

[fathom shard]

italy and germany ai are pros at getting encircled

its like theyre doing it on purpose

[flint widget]

when i do navy usa i just go export focus

[tepid crown]

More so for game balance

[buoyant portal]

it was a big waste because in the end japan did not defend the home isles and died in 1942 and germany was too war broken to fight back

[flint widget]

naval ai is broken rn

[safe wing]

I’m gonna go back to a good game when I get home from work

[fathom shard]

can vichy france join axis if attacked

i forgot

[safe wing]

Medieval 2 total war with the the JLMP vanilla Kingdoms mod

[fathom shard]

in 1942

[safe wing]

If you are fighting the axis Yes

[buoyant portal]

pretty sure

[safe wing]

If you are in the axis no

[fathom shard]

yeah ik about that

[buoyant portal]

how hard is sheep's mod?

[fathom shard]

why is uk or usa nuking germany its 1942

these mfs waste no time

[heavy vigil]

its mid

[flint widget]

i denied indochina and japan declared war, germany invited me to the axis

[buoyant portal]

ill try it tomorrow then

[flint widget]

has anyone noticed usa lend leasing siam

[woven gate]

i was just reading about TNO lore

dude the US could've saved the world if they kept fighting

[safe wing]

TNO mentioned 😴

[buoyant portal]

last time i played TNO there was a big hole in the Congo and apparently there isn't one anymore...

[woven gate]

they're removing everything that makes it unique i swear

[safe wing]

That mod is basically alt history fanfiction + a visual novel and going through development hell

[woven gate]

if only the gameplay was as good as the lore

[safe wing]

I know alt history mods with better lore (ante Bellum for eu4 for example)

[buoyant portal]

I honestly do not like visual novel mods

I do not get their point

[safe wing]

TNO is just your standard Axis victory mod but edgier

Not only that the axis victory scenario is very overdone

[woven gate]

i love it because it makes the US look heroic

[safe wing]

I hate it because it isn’t fun

Meanwhile in ante Bellum As the Nicaean kingdom I spent 400 years ingame reforming the Macedonian empire

[buoyant portal]

I mostly find hoi4 sg really easy, so I do not get the point of visual novel type mods which keep the game simple and also spam you with events (which i never read).

[safe wing]

And even revived Hellenism as a religion

Though I had to convert all of Greece and Anatolia back to Hellenism which took a long time

[buoyant portal]

the main thing i like about hoi4 is big wars and micromanagement

[safe wing]

Same

[fathom shard]

halfway done

soviets are pushing

allies are coming

[buoyant portal]

so if all i get is some scripted wars which might only be hard because there's no supply in Siberia, i get bored

[safe wing]

Still had fun reviving Macedonian in Ante Bellum

I even got to choose the capital (Babylon which Alexander wanted, Alexandria, or Pella)

[buoyant portal]

i honestly love Kaiserreich/Kaiserredux just because it guarantees civil wars that can actually influence the big war.

[safe wing]

I choose Babylon because it was centrally located in the empire

[buoyant portal]

I remember last time i played French Commune and basically made the war with Germany really easy because I carried USA and some other states i do not remember in their civil wars.

[tiny iris]

I have beef with the Kaiserreich staff team so I always play Redux.

[buoyant portal]

lmao

[safe wing]

Invading India and finishing what Alexander and Demitrous could not

[wide osprey]

the only decision i like to use

[weary estuary]

Yo does Croatia have a focus tree

[clear dagger]

why would they out of everyone have a focus tree

[weary estuary]

Idk just wondering dang

[woven gate]

nah

it'd be cool if they did though

[strong belfry]

16 witdh or 18 witdh for defence

which one is better if you poor

[sudden thistle]

16

[fathom shard]

byebye axis

[olive dagger]

How did u lit do no progress

[olive dagger]

From this

[fathom shard]

wdym no progress

do you need glasses

i literally just capped them

[warped skiff]

I haven't played hoi since Gotterdammerung came out. Anything I need to learn before I jump back in?

[safe wing]

He started as Greece

[wet summit]

[fathom shard]

look at this map and tell me one thing that looks right

[fair horizon]

go get em mexico, just keep them occupi- you lost already?

[steep rampart]

How do I even do thirty minutes of hel I keep getting fisted by Romania

[winged field]

as?

[safe wing]

Nothing tbh

[real maple]

Can someone send me and invite to DiscardPixel's mp rp server? When I click on the link on the internet it says its invalid

[safe wing]

It will only look right when Byzantines borders are these

[clear dagger]

poland, who else

[winged field]

idk hungary, czechoslovakia etc

[clear dagger]

the 30 minutes of hell achievement?

[winged field]

oh

thought he meant literal 30 minutes of hell 😭

[clear dagger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/red-dead-redemption-2-1-rHrsWNz5iOmVuARg4b

[safe wing]

@fathom shard

[patent mesa]

thoughts on any of these templates?

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[steep rampart]

Poland

[subtle tiger]

that's a lotta arty

[winged field]

just why

like geniunely

[patent mesa]

just looked up on a guide

[safe wing]

Line Arty is ass

[patent mesa]

I just need some templates

[winged field]

from MachiavellianStrategist?

yeah dont watch that

[grave sonnet]

My heart hurts to say this but like art is shite

[patent mesa]

and some kind of guide

[winged field]

If any of those guys have line artillery in their template I would just stop watching those guys

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[patent mesa]

okay, I understand. can you point me in the right direction?

[winged field]

assault infantry ( for attacking)

for example

[patent mesa]

that flame tank?

anyone is able to get this or

[winged field]

yeah if you dont have that dlc just add something else

[patent mesa]

okay

[winged field]

special projects

[patent mesa]

ahh yeah, I probably won't be able to get it

[patent mesa]

any for mech?

[winged field]

do you have rangers? If yes then add that

[winged field]

like pure mech?

or with tanks

[patent mesa]

like some with tanks yes

[clear dagger]

lmao

[winged field]

again if you dont have some support companies change them for like logistcis, anti air or even arillery

[patent mesa]

what is the first tank?

[winged field]

Put logistics for sure if you dont have enough fuel or sum

[winged field]

spg

sellf proppeled gun

it should be in base game too

[patent mesa]

I assume I can just reduce the amount

the mech and spg

then go up to the ss

[winged field]

why?

[wet summit]

lmao i just found out you can scroll down there

[olive dagger]

still litle gains

[patent mesa]

if I dont have enough when it comes to equipment

[winged field]

I would rather have 1 one of these than 5 smaller tanks divs. Lets put it that way

[rich nacelle]

This a good design?

[fair horizon]

very expensive

[rich nacelle]

Ik lol

I will probably just build it for the funny

[fair horizon]

gonna take like 2 years?

[rich nacelle]

Almost 3

Around 2 years 7 months

Although it probably doesn’t need that much heavy attack right.

[snow rain]

expensive but this is a terror

the capital blaster

[fathom shard]

who you tryna kill with this bro

[rich nacelle]

It would slow my fleets down by 8 knots lol.

[rich nacelle]

Neptune

[real maple]

💀

[rich nacelle]

Or Poseidon

[real maple]

Bro what date is this

Like 1944?

[rich nacelle]

1946

[real maple]

2.7 years?

Who will you be fighting by then

[rich nacelle]

I am playing the us and messing round with volunteers.

[rich nacelle]

The axis

[real maple]

Ah you didnt intervene

[rich nacelle]

They control all of mainland Europe, Asia, and almost all of Africa 😭

[real maple]

Bro you ded

[rich nacelle]

Nope. Just fending off sea lions with tanks.

[fathom shard]

mfs be making allat just to kill ai axis

[rich nacelle]

I mean I DID buff the axis

[fathom shard]

ai is ai though

[rich nacelle]

And myself tho

[weak rivet]

why hasnt germany attacked me yet its like mid 1942?

[real maple]

Can someone send me and invite to DiscardPixel's mp rp server? When I click on the link on the internet it says its invalid

[fathom shard]

if everyone is buffed then is anyone really buffed?

[real maple]

Like

Pls

[rich nacelle]

I just can’t wait to fight the 2600 divisions the axis has

Idek how Italy has 1100

[rich nacelle]

Italy, Japan, Germany, and me are buffed.

[weak rivet]

hello?

[fathom shard]

is this my wifes boyfriend?

[weak rivet]

yes

[real maple]

Please save me mir president

[fathom shard]

can i play until 7 tonight?

[weak rivet]

why hasnt germany attacked me yet its like mid 1942?

[sudden thistle]

is that a black current US president in ur pfp?

[weak rivet]

yeah we will be busy so dont disturbe us

[real maple]

Which nation

[weak rivet]

na

[weak rivet]

ussr

[weak rivet]

you sound like a discord mod

[sudden thistle]

im just wondering 🥀

[weak rivet]

yeah it is

[uncut pollen]

Interesting

[fathom shard]

if u went ahistorical ai even on historical can be too

[sudden thistle]

is germany at war with someone within europe?

[weak rivet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/soyjack-nothing-ever-happens-flatearthparaguay-YLn30deFai3xvKmgBK

[sudden thistle]

excluding the british isles

[weak rivet]

historical

[weak rivet]

only the uk at this point

[fathom shard]

just declare on them

[weak rivet]

oki

[weak rivet]

socrates

[sudden thistle]

Ai is prob glitching out then idk

[fathom shard]

yea

[weak rivet]

do you know about the transparent person

[fathom shard]

that bumass skeleton?

[weak rivet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gemmy-what-are-they-doing-alerting-OibHSosZCAj7gbCCQg

[safe wing]

Who are you playing as?

[olive dagger]

Omg 21.27

21.37*

[vital mirage]

is its worth it to do the event in the 80% compliance?

[olive dagger]

Only polish ppl know

[woeful knoll]

Is there literaly any point to convoy raiding

The ai has infinite convoys and manpower

it doesnt do anything

[snow rain]

that's just not true

[woeful knoll]

What does convoy raiding actually do to the ai

[olive dagger]

U can lit switch countries and see

[woeful knoll]

Because i took out at least 500 ships as phillipines and ai uk still have 1000

[olive dagger]

What it does normally

[snow rain]

the only "cheat" the AI has is that it can see some units behind your front and plan accordingly but it's so dumb it basically never takes that into account

[olive dagger]

Conwoys can easily be mass produced

[safe wing]

Makes the ai not naval invade I think because divisions require convoys

[woeful knoll]

i also did 200k casualties just by convoy tradiing and tag switched and they were fine

[snow rain]

it kills their supplies, resource imports and delete divs passing through the ocean

[woeful knoll]

to burma

[snow rain]

just as everyone

[olive dagger]

Martial laws exsist

[woeful knoll]

hm ok

ill try again

[snow rain]

yeah ? I don't see what should happen otherwise ?

[wet summit]

They are about to touch

[wide osprey]

i wanna hmmmmmm

i wanna

hmmmmmm i wanna play

eu5 or hoi4

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hardy quail]

Feeback is a chud.

anyways

[wide osprey]

can we have frontlines in eu5 pleeeeeeeease

🙂

[sudden thistle]

hell no

too little soldiers

[wide osprey]

i will make a mod

johan was wrong about this

we need frontline in eu5

we need world war 2 in eu5

we need strategic bombers and aircraft carriers

[open bolt]

Hey guys how are you ? Do you know the meta in multiplayer non historical ?

[snow rain]

pretty sure the whole point of ahist MP is to avoid meta builds by making everything unpredictable

[open bolt]

Yeah, but if we play non historical in a competition, in 3 vs 3, we need a stratégie anyway right ?

[tepid crown]

Probably mostly the same

[snow rain]

I see you're in for the Sargistes tournament
can't really help in such a specific scenario but I'd say it'll probably come down to templates in the end
remember them rules : english only

[winged field]

this has more org than I expected

[lethal ether]

7th century english allowed?

[wide osprey]

pretty pretty pretty interesting

[winged field]

it has more org than hp

ggs

[wide osprey]

i wish hoi5 could make artillery playful

i mean
something like 80% of the losses in ww2 were caused by artillery

😟

[winged field]

idk about that butyeah it could be more useful

if they would be too good then we wouldnt have a reason to build other stuff

paradox balancing in nutshel

[sudden thistle]

But 100% of deaths were caused by death causing effects

[wide osprey]

i feel kinda 80% of the things in the game are useless

[subtle tiger]

Armored cars

[winged field]

not my go kart trucks, they are awesome

from paris to germany in 1 second

[grave sonnet]

Death was caused by Death 👍🏼

[winged field]

Wait what did i just say

tf

[wide osprey]

with new doctrine system - yeah, they can be pretty interesting

[winged field]

From Berlin to Paris

thats makes sense more 😭

old mass mobilzation doctrine casually giving +20% reinforce rate bonus

[olive dagger]

from paris

[mighty zephyr]

HISTORICitaly never fails to fail

[olive dagger]

to paris

(german owned)

[winged field]

you know who is in paris?

[olive dagger]

germans

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kanye-east

[grave sonnet]

Mine usually becomes french Italy nowadays for some reason

The french be grinding

[wide osprey]

from violet yugoslavia to light blue france 🥀

[knotty vortex]

when does it get to a point where you realise maybe you suck at the game a little bit

[grave sonnet]

I realised that when I started playing but kept pushing 👍🏼

[winged field]

people who manage to loose to poland as germany

[knotty vortex]

okay im not THAT bad

[winged field]

thats a good start

[knotty vortex]

but like

poland-lithuanian commonwealth and i lost to ussr

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-yikes-flight-meme-gif-12822158462297009384

[heavy vigil]

people who manage to lose to the dutch as germany

[knotty vortex]

i did this.

once

[winged field]

thats actually impressive ngl

[knotty vortex]

i need to figure out how to beat majors as puny minors

[grave sonnet]

Good thing I only lose to Luxembourg then

[winged field]

nah we cant have that

too much

[heavy vigil]

you overestimate the new hoi4 player greatly

most are clueless creatures

[knotty vortex]

sorry to disappoint

[safe wing]

which one is better?

[knotty vortex]

i have 154 hours and have never beaten a major as a minor.

[winged field]

Forcing a fish to climb a tree or something like that

[heavy vigil]

ive never seen this focus in english can you change your game language so i can tell

[grave sonnet]

Secular nukes Ur stability

[grave sonnet]

And you virtually get none

[winged field]

Just have your divison have 0.0000001% armor and soviets die

[heavy vigil]

ohhh its the iran focus

[grave sonnet]

But yet again the research bonus

[heavy vigil]

id still go secular

stab is easier to get

[knotty vortex]

ha lol

bro thinks i can do that

[grave sonnet]

No ?

Isn't it the Raj

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/elmer-sheep-4

[grave sonnet]

Mughal focus tree

I'm pretty sure

[knotty vortex]

what country should i play

i wanna win

for once

maybe

[heavy vigil]

ok i have no clue

[heavy vigil]

ive never seen that focus in english

[grave sonnet]

Yes it's the Raj

[winged field]

Hungary, just have big army and you get all your old lands back (brutal)

[heavy vigil]

sorry for not knowing

im a fraud

[grave sonnet]

Raj is fun I like elephants

[knotty vortex]

a big army of what

[winged field]

literally have big army, like all the manpower you can have on field

[grave sonnet]

And take back Ur ancestors lands (central Asia)

[knotty vortex]

but of what troops

bicycle infantry lol

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hungary-11

true shit

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/slovensko-caputova-fico-robert-historia-gif-27709370

[knotty vortex]

what troops are like

[grave sonnet]

Genghis Khan's bicycle men

[knotty vortex]

decent all round

no matter what nation

[grave sonnet]

They should add unicycle division

[winged field]

fun fact, the hungarians revisited that tribe and could communicate with them almost fluently but the second time they visited they were gone cuz of mongloian invasion

[knotty vortex]

because i fear making armies is my downfall

i suck at it

[grave sonnet]

Sad

[clear dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1479248317035581464/1484347465070149642/togif.gif

[knotty vortex]

guys help me pls

what path for hungary

[winged field]

the irony always gets me

[winged field]

for most land?

Gyula Gombos

[knotty vortex]

probably the easiest option

because i SUCK

[winged field]

oppose horty or something

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/savages-pocahontas-gif-5458002

[winged field]

still that one as in you get chance to get all of them back withouit war

[knotty vortex]

is that undermine the admiral

[winged field]

yea

[knotty vortex]

sweet

what troops should i make

got any designs that arent like insanely hard to get?

[winged field]

just incrse the conscription law always

[clear dagger]

bicycle

[rich nacelle]

Wtf

[winged field]

at least to lmited or advanced conscription

[rich nacelle]

I have convoys but it says I dont have enough?

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-felt-hero-tough-tough-guy-how-you-felt-after-saying-that-gif-12464623776561746518

[rich nacelle]

"We need 11 convoys but only have 0 to transport the division(s)"

[winged field]

I just use inf block cuz I dont have industry for anything else. 36w inf with supports

[rich nacelle]

Or is it refering to the amount of convoys the nation I have my voulenteers sent to?

[knotty vortex]

like this?

[winged field]

remove recon add aa later hospitals later flame tanks or if you dont have them add like engineers or logistics company

or rangers if you have them

[fair horizon]

chat out of the goe nations which ones are fun?

[slim nexus]

does someone wanna get in a call and teach me the game i just bought ut

[rich nacelle]

None

[fair horizon]

build light cruiser

[knotty vortex]

i never understand how people get flame tanks

its so hard

[fair horizon]

wym?

just build the land facility

[knotty vortex]

they require so much

[knotty vortex]

3 whole years

[fair horizon]

like 1 factory per 40 divs

[winged field]

you can get them early 38 easily

[fair horizon]

which country?

[knotty vortex]

hungary

[fair horizon]

i can get them in 38 as every country except spain

real countries

not trinidad

[knotty vortex]

how

[fair horizon]

just build the facility?

takes like the time a mil takes to build

do you make tanks as hungary?

takes like less time than that tbh

[knotty vortex]

idk

[fair horizon]

also thats the best time to do so

cause flame tanks get 1 free design so you can switch the gun and then its like 5 total mil xp

[olive dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

[knotty vortex]

does this look good without support for now

[fair horizon]

yeah it looks like they're hard to get buildings but if you just slap one down when you have like 10+ civs you'll have it easily

i have one land facility so its 12000 base

[pliant ginkgo]

Way too much manpower cost and equipment

[sharp sierra]

with booty tech a big infantry division isnt super good at attacking

[fair horizon]

thats fine if hes doing infantry

[sharp sierra]

compared to a 16 width or something

[pliant ginkgo]

Usually I do 9 INF, support arty, support engineers, and support recon. Maybe a single arty battalion if I want more soft attack

[woeful knoll]

Make it 3x3 with supports and add engineers bro

[sharp sierra]

less soft attack per width

[fair horizon]

infantry is backed up by planes

planes do most the damage

[pliant ginkgo]

Either way that’s way too much infantry

[sharp sierra]

its fine

[fair horizon]

its 36w

its not a lot

[woeful knoll]

Do any of you guys actually play hoi4

"its 36w"

[fair horizon]

could do even more with large unit tactics

[woeful knoll]

bro thats way to much

[fair horizon]

36w fits good into every tile on the map

its the meta for overextension

[sharp sierra]

i have 1160 hours

[lime mist]

Guys im playing as poland and its november of 1939 and I clicked something and germany stopped invading is this a good sign?

[sharp sierra]

i assume hes gonna upgrade it obviously

[woeful knoll]

wat did u click

[pliant ginkgo]

Especially for Hungary that’s quite a lot. You can only get like 15-20 divisions unless you have better conscription laws

[lime mist]

There was a popup and it gave me two choices and one was refuse or something and the other was lets make germany our ally

That was back in september

[pliant ginkgo]

Was it historical?

[woeful knoll]

U just surrendered your coast

thats it

[pliant ginkgo]

It was prob just Danzig or war

[fair horizon]

be prepared

[lime mist]

So its a good thing

[woeful knoll]

neutral

[lime mist]

Do I have to help germany invade the soviets now?

[lime mist]

Sweet

[nova jasper]

q

[woeful knoll]

u avoidided war but now u have no coast

[sharp sierra]

now you have to worry about soviet

invading you

[woeful knoll]

Yea

[lime mist]

oh

[woeful knoll]

now focus all on soviets

[fair horizon]

you just moved war out a few months...

[woeful knoll]

dont surrender the east

[fair horizon]

germany will come for the rest

[lime mist]

oh

Also how can I make it so poland doesnt need world tension to justify a war goal

[woeful knoll]

No they dont bruh

ai doesnt justify

[lime mist]

Because I want to take lithuania

[woeful knoll]

become communist or fascist

[lime mist]

Oh

[woeful knoll]

what path r u going on

[sharp sierra]

ive seen the ai manually justify before

[pliant ginkgo]

I thought there was a focus for that

To do something with Lithuania

[woeful knoll]

only for claims

and cores

[pliant ginkgo]

Also you won’t have much time if you jus did Danzig or war

Soviets will swoop in to take the Baltics in like a few months

[woeful knoll]

Most poland paths let u annex lituania

this guy is prob playing the horrible historical poland path

[woeful knoll]

im pretty sure thats a bug

[fair horizon]

its not?

[woeful knoll]

Poland takes a state im pretty sure

[woeful knoll]

then that gives u a war goal on them

let me check

[fair horizon]

no lmao

best you can do is try and get in the axis

cant attack allies so

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/everyone-hates-chris-my-mother-ate-fries-chris-rpg-chris-dishes-chris-does-the-dishes-gif-12736351656225353884

[fair horizon]

my poor puppets

[lime mist]

Guys how do I bring back the sanatation right cuz i says I ousted them

[fair horizon]

ill come save you and not because i dont want to lose the canal

[pliant ginkgo]

Yeah tbh I’d only play historical Poland if you’re trying to do 30 Minutes of Hel or enjoy getting pummeled by the Nazis

[woeful knoll]

By not playing historical poland

[lime mist]

.

[woeful knoll]

If u want to be non aligned play kingdom of poland

[steep rampart]

What’s the best path for Poland

[woeful knoll]

Why would you ever go historical poland bro

[fair horizon]

kingdom of poland goes hard

[woeful knoll]

the bear one

[lime mist]

Is the castle path part of historical poland?

[restive sable]

like any of the monarchist ones

all absurdly overpowered

[woeful knoll]

Yes

[restive sable]

yes

[lime mist]

Oh

[steep rampart]

I did the unit with Austria and Czech and I still got folded by Germany

[lime mist]

Well i dont know what to do anymore

[woeful knoll]

Its definitely a bug

you could say its not and we dont know for sure

[fathom shard]

just play austria

[woeful knoll]

but paradox doesnt design like this

[pliant ginkgo]

As Poland?

[steep rampart]

Yes with king Micheal

[woeful knoll]

Defeat the ussr which is fun

[silk fern]

Isn’t king Micheal Romania?

[woeful knoll]

But never play historical poland again

[fair horizon]

thats literally in the tree at 1936 and poland owns that specific province until they get mobbed on

[steep rampart]

Both

[woeful knoll]

just play monarchist bro

[lime mist]

K

[woeful knoll]

Nah i remember palying germany a few months ago and i didnt get a war goal on poland

[fair horizon]

because you didnt do that focus ig

[pliant ginkgo]

Honestly it’s almost impossible to hold out as Poland unless the Germany AI messes up horribly. Most I was able to do was Oct 1939 to Aug 1940 and do like 500k casualties

[fair horizon]

how the allies expected poland to pull out a win

[woeful knoll]

Yeah bro ive never even looked at castle before now but this is horrible

Your intentionally nerfing yourself with a timed modifier

Just go monarchist

[lime mist]

Ok

How useful is the atomic bomb btw

[heavy vigil]

mid

[woeful knoll]

the entire tree is little +5 percent buffs then useless stuff

[steep rampart]

My longest was till 1943 I had two provinces left and was on scraping the barrel with like 2 million casualties

[silk fern]

I haven’t bothered to use a nuke since gotterdamerung

Too much work

[pliant ginkgo]

They weren’t. They were hoping that Poland could hold out long enough for them to move in and help

[woeful knoll]

you literllahy have to do 50 years of "Research" to get a single nuke

[pliant ginkgo]

Honestly a nuke is too much work

[fair horizon]

its really good to throw at nepal and bhutan for spamming non-agression pact

[pliant ginkgo]

You could be doing something better with your time rather than making a nuke

[woeful knoll]

i tried to play nuclear ghandi and i saw 2000 days and just gave up

[olive dagger]

Ive got the mis wojtwk achivment

And i have like 4 unlocked

Bc germany went democratic

[lime mist]

yeah but I dont have anythign to do

[olive dagger]

In non historical

[lime mist]

Im jsut waiting for my country to fall

[woeful knoll]

restart and play a better poland path bro

[pliant ginkgo]

Do you know the whole defensive line thing or nah?

[olive dagger]

U can do the katoqice and krakow hold

[lime mist]

No im super new

[olive dagger]

Release czechs

[mighty zephyr]

I fully convinced myself that d day wasnt a part of the game. I ignored the west and focused on the ussr but suddenly got invaded and the miscalculation made me lose both fronts. Did i just… lose historically??

[silk fern]

poland is probably the worst country to play for a new player

[lime mist]

I just wanted to see if I could hold off the germans

[olive dagger]

Quickly we need stainer!

[fair horizon]

apparently so

[pliant ginkgo]

It’s a thing where it’s a defensive line going from Warsaw to Lodz. If you built forts in advance then you can hold pretty well. Just make sure not to let that center tile fall or you could lose Lodz without a good counterattack

[silk fern]

it happens to the best of us

[olive dagger]

Fr when i first played i ca0ped as germany to czechs

[steep rampart]

It was my first, I went fascist and lasted until bagration

[pliant ginkgo]

It’s this

[olive dagger]

Bc i didnt do focus i did a war goal

[lime mist]

k

[pliant ginkgo]

There might be a diff one but this is the only one I’ve tried so far

[olive dagger]

Yeah this too

Or a bigger circle

Or krakow katowicr

Get some menpoqer

Menpower*

[mighty zephyr]

The glorious reverse encirclement

[lime mist]

WAIT

[woeful knoll]

is this the new 30 min of hel strat

[olive dagger]

Maybe get less divisions

[lime mist]

Ican go to war with lithuania now

[pliant ginkgo]

I would have lasted longer if I built forts but oh well. I’ll retry it when I have some spare time

[olive dagger]

Theres a few

[woeful knoll]

whats the best one

[lime mist]

Poland will end up greater than it did in Ww2

[woeful knoll]

the old one doesnt work anymore

[pliant ginkgo]

That April 1940 thing was later on. I had way more divisions but I lost them trying to regain that center tile.

And that’s why they’re almost all in Lodz

Since that’s right after I retook the tile and mistakenly moved them there

[patent mesa]

ininstead of the spg can I do medium tank instead?

[marsh stratus]

how do i do nav invasons

[pliant ginkgo]

You need to select the port you’re launching from, then the coastal tile you’re targeting and wait for it to prepare

[woeful knoll]

Get nav dominace

[pliant ginkgo]

Just be warned tho

[woeful knoll]

and make a plan

[pliant ginkgo]

You need naval dominance

Or it won’t go off

[woeful knoll]

If you dont know how to do naval invasions dont do them because u will die instantly

[marsh stratus]

ok thx

[olive dagger]

Theres the cosac king too

It gives u insane cavalery buffs

[lime mist]

bruh iw as gonna fight lithuania and then they got taken by the USSR

[pliant ginkgo]

The only naval I did was D-day when I was the Canadians. I landed like 20-25 divisions with the help of American naval dominance

[olive dagger]

From my info

[woeful knoll]

whats the best 30 mins of hel strat

[olive dagger]

Prob katowice krakow

Idk i dont play polanf

But am polish

[pliant ginkgo]

Also a weird thing I noticed. In a Sweden run I did, the Allie’s never did D-Day. They only landed in Vichy and Italy

[supple summit]

rt56 is not real lmao

[woeful knoll]

its because paradox cant code historical ai

[uncut pollen]

Its the best

[woeful knoll]

d day never happens nor can germany push past kyiv

[supple summit]

its just a lie made by paradox to make it seem like it has good mods

🙁

[pliant ginkgo]

Literally same thing happened. Germany never made it past that line

[young lake]

FINALLY 😭

[pliant ginkgo]

Nowhere close to Kyiv by 1943

[young lake]

I won as China

[uncut pollen]

Nope

[supple summit]

irs a really cute thing called airbase access from the allies

[uncut pollen]

It is a good mod

The best imo

[supple summit]

bruh

in the new update it just also shit on the german ai

not new but like idk it just shit on the german ai

[olive dagger]

Thats not true

Its pretty good

[uncut pollen]

It is

[olive dagger]

But its basicly for ppl who dont have dlc

[olive dagger]

Kaiserdux ,modernday ,new order the fire rises . Those exsist

First world war too

The mediaval mod

[uncut pollen]

All bad

[fair horizon]

how does australia end up fighting in the middle east again in ahistorical...

[olive dagger]

R56 just add focus trees

And prob smth else

But if u have dlc its not that good

[olive dagger]

Historically almost true

They fought in africa

And nonhistorical dosent have to be ahist

It can still be a bit historical

[fair horizon]

they fought in turkey in ww1 and palestine in ww1 iirc

[olive dagger]

What do yall think of my playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4s6nhmmOEbgcTrrgNBIoUD?si=pRZQWOjfTmW-ojoIRDm8ig&pi=ZBFV3E-OQeWLV (am about to get flammed)

[sharp sierra]

no alice in chains

[olive dagger]

Yeah wtf is alice in chains

[trim pike]

Dont say that word

[sharp sierra]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6uJhCao8wULMrDOZOuS5rc?si=93331bb2959441ea

[olive dagger]

This gives post apo depresion vibe

I prwfer my joost klein

[pliant ginkgo]

Yall got any tips on what DLC I should get next? I only got La Resistance and Bosporous rn

[olive dagger]

Lit worst dlcs u coudl get

Okay maybe not for la resistance

But

Still

Get no step back

[safe wing]

No Step Back, Gotterdamerung, Arms Against Tyranny and By Blood Alone are all important IMO

[pliant ginkgo]

I got it because it was on sale for like 19 something after tax.

I mean the game

It was base game, LR and Bosporus for 19 bucks

[olive dagger]

Or gotterdarmung

[sharp sierra]

gutterdung

[olive dagger]

Army againts tyrany is market

Gotterdumungnugg

Is

Uh

Idk

[safe wing]

MIO's too

[olive dagger]

No step is tank designwr?

[safe wing]

Special projects

[safe wing]

yes

[olive dagger]

Whats mio

Trail aligance

[safe wing]

Military industrial organization

[olive dagger]

Is boring

But plane

[snow rain]

market, MIOs, special forces doctrines

[olive dagger]

What does that do

[snow rain]

almost no bugs and fun focus trees

[pliant ginkgo]

Gotterdammerung overhauls Germany and Austria right? Or is that for Nordic countries

[olive dagger]

Mainly market

In my 300 hours i never used special force doctorine

Other the random mountaners

[olive dagger]

Army tyrany is nordic

[silk fern]

It overhauls germany Austria and hungary

[olive dagger]

Gutrmung

Is hungary germany austria

Belgium

Belgian congo

And

Thats all

I think

[safe wing]

gives bonuses to your military companies which makes it easier to make guns along many other bonuses

[olive dagger]

And belgian congo

[pliant ginkgo]

Good since like 60% of the games I’ve played so far have been Hungary alone lol

[olive dagger]

Oh yeah i remeber

The

Menu

Okay

[silk fern]

I forgot about them

[olive dagger]

And belgium

[olive dagger]

Yeah hungqry is soo good

I played with someone that had mods

And i was like

Wtf

Is this big ahh trwe

[silk fern]

Old hungary was so reliant on rng

[olive dagger]

Bc i played 80%hungry

[olive dagger]

Frr

New one is cavalery spam but who cares

And kinda rng with aliances

Idk i only play hasburg

[pliant ginkgo]

It’s such a fun nation tbh. I didn’t want to spend my first hours trying a major and failing , so I do hungry and had fun. At most I had like 900k fielded manpower and lost like 600k to the Soviets alone

[lime mist]

Guys so if I gave up east poland to soviet russia and the soviets are now fighting the german reich but im not getting attacked, is this a good thing

[olive dagger]

Yeah fr

[lime mist]

I plan to make poland a greater country after ww2 ends

[olive dagger]

I played romania on a mp coop with ky frend

It was fun holding the soviets

[pliant ginkgo]

I’ve never tried communist Hungary yet so that would be my next play through

[olive dagger]

Buy guterdumngng

If u plqy hungry

Its so good

That army against tyrany for market

So u can sell ya planes

And then no stel bavk

Or switch no step and tyrany

[sharp sierra]

commie hungary pretty fun

went to war with sovs before germany and got all of it in the deal

old screenshot

[silk fern]

So peak

[fathom shard]

generals are literally just clones

[pliant ginkgo]

Is there any good WW1 mods?

[olive dagger]

Wtf

Was that zssr or hungry

[silk fern]

Great War or Great War redux

[sharp sierra]

its like ghoulash hungary or some shit i dont remember

[olive dagger]

Actually genually what in the fotoradar

[pliant ginkgo]

I watched the HOI4 vid on Gotterdammerung Hungary and it looks so much better than base HOI4 Hungary

[olive dagger]

Yeah

Its

Much better

[sharp sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-poggers-chuck-e-cheese-mouse-pizza-gif-21646431

[maiden bolt]

they need to bring back the old Navy mechanics

[pliant ginkgo]

I forgot if I posted this already or not but… Fascist Swedish Cambodia

[sharp sierra]

the ai fleets arent competitive at all and the old naval invasion system was better thats the only problems i have

[olive dagger]

Are yall straight?

[sharp sierra]

like sexuality only mostly

[pliant ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/philip-labes-lucifer-weird-thing-to-ask-gif-18223335

[olive dagger]

Yeah am bored af

[olive dagger]

Why is bro on dobig server

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1151539719591710832/1410648126737350666/attachment.gif

Dr house

[pliant ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/its-never-lupus-lupus-house-house-md-hugh-laurie-gif-11021011

[olive dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/853135270828703744/1355222161048080692/rapidsave.com_41lna5nzx4re1.gif

https://tenor.com/view/torpedo-roomba-blahaj-3-33-gif-15282250224227475778

[pliant ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-every-episode-of-house-md-medicine-drug-house-meme-gif-12356758624655038114

[olive dagger]

Hey lets move to #off-topic

[fair horizon]

@patent thistle i am noticing naval bombers hit more so im assuming the cas must be doing it

also the skua shot down means they are being counted in the naval bomber damage

yeah i naval

my poor destroyer 😭

[sly venture]

alright bro I’ve gotten to a dangerous point

I can only play Germany

I can’t play any other country

[silk fern]

How does that happen

[woeful knoll]

how?

How can u not play any other countrry

[sly venture]

because last time I played a different country then Germany was probably 3 months ago

[woeful knoll]

U didnt even play ncns?

[solemn bay]

try the Soviets

that was my cure

[fair horizon]

flushed em out

[sly venture]

I tried playing Japan and my brain started melting

[fair horizon]

:)

i feel like the british attacking the tirpitz all the time

just bombing the crap out of the german fleet

except im hunting the gneisnau

[woeful knoll]

#ask-for-help-here pls help if u know navy

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[fathom shard]

well thats a pretty big faction

[calm delta]

Sup people

[calm delta]

See that’s just awesome to see

[safe wing]

Why did you change your pfp?

To king Baldwin from kingdom of heaven

[vital cove]

pretty small you mean

[safe wing]

@fathom shard wish me luck

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[fair horizon]

i find it funny trinidad is a major

[heavy vigil]

tobago denier in chat....

[fair horizon]

i won that war btw

[inland falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/motya-baikal-seal-seal-nerpa-hello-there-gif-7052781861714451435

[fair horizon]

crushed them and their stalinist regime