#hoi4-general
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1943 Rifles in 1941 always feels so great
especially as the Ever Infantry-Centric country that i main
i have 111k men in the field pre war
luxembourg next superpower
i love playing Canada but i was thinking about swapping mains to Australia
Decisions Decisions
atleast i know germany doesnt consider me a threat ๐ญ
pretty much
i might switch my main to Australia because i'm a phenomenal Air Controller
we arent gonna talk about the username, hope u win against germany
max level forts is peak
tuff 4 civs
im cooking ๐ฅน
did you go communist for the 400 weekly manpower perchance
for 900 weekly yep
i mean hoi4 is a pretty accepting community
i've never gotten anything for being how i am
oh i never said it was bad
woah woah woah whos this chad restoring the roman empire?
i just wasnt expecting to see it
denmark capitulated in 3 hours
i've only done Greater Italy
is he goated?
and i speedran it in 1941
worse than real life ๐ญ
also i mean its alot of green but most of it is small changes
norway declared nuetrality then joined the allies immediately after lmao
classic norway
irl?
After the Harakiri debate, if you go down the left path instead of the right path, there is a non-agression pact focus with China
ok so how does it work now; i assume the research bonus is now an airframe; whereas the old research bonus was for a plane that also had better guns and stuff
grabbed anti-tank alr โ๏ธ
idk i don't have BBA
the 4 mils you have are gonna be producing at LEAST 0.01 anti tank a day ๐ซก
probably
still a great air controller so i might genuinely try to main australia
yeah but if the new focus gives you a research on just the airframe, you still have to research the engine and the associated techs
like self sealing, hmgs, etc
they better sleep with both eyes open ๐
they gonna sleep forever
bring it on old man
im getting so sick of the british ai
im doing a usa achievement run and i need to blow up paris
these mfs do dday 2 years early
wtf
and they do this every run
that actually reminds me
there was a server i was in where everyone was soooo convinced that you needed a usa player to do d-day to have a allied victory
and then i got banned bc me and my friends couldnt get on to prove them wrong ๐
guys they killed 773 of my men
are we winning
thats 772
anyways heres what ive done to them so far
no u havent ๐ญ
thats everyone combined
to them
alright well this is going well
oh i forgot they invaded other countries lmao ๐ญ
lowk i need to stop sending gifs including my friends
mussolini irl?
no but mussolini mogs
that guy just goons to femboys and thats it
how many kills do we got though
why are the romans the goats?
js wait till they capitulate
then u get a reward called "encirclement"
what country are u
usa
theres ur reward!
damn how stupid are the germans?
if they all attacked one province at once u would be cooked
just got a bigger entrenchment bonus
nuke the brits
but instead they send 2 divisions with no supplies to attack
damn we're doing great
its because all the others had to stop attacking
ohh
max level forts and way too much entrenchment ^^
The humble bunker-focused bomber:
well forts have give much less protection if they attack from all sides
wait check the entrenchment bonus
While on convoy raiding will subs engage main fleet of always engage is on
what % is it at
is 1938 carlist spain good
hahahahahaaha germany is COOKED i got big daddy stalin in on the war
i did this as communist portugal, nationalist spain joined the axis after i joined the comintern as them
Poland joined the comintern too
and France just pushed into the rhine
how do i check entrenchment?
so you look at your divisions and there'll be a blue bar next to them after clicking on it
go up to where you look at the stats you'll see what i mean
i lowk think this is a good stopping point for tonight
PARADOX IS RAGEBAITING ME
ill play sum else for now and then play it tmr when im back from school
not bad at all
no way
thanks for your help uk im sure you got a lot from this
guys with my power should i just invade the ussr?
Yes
its going to be a while i dont even have tanks researched ;w;
lmao WHAT
whenever i kill like half of the spanish army in the civil war their divisons just refuse to die
i cant explain like
ill attack with divisions that used to cut through them
and they just dont budge
germany got cooked 
you just walked to berlin? how
honestly idk ;w;
i wore the german army out of manpower for a year and a half that could be why
pov: you speak with in a slightly different accent in the balkens
whatever, go my mountaineers
Italy has something that Germany doesn't have
They would be outclassed in naval and air. But considering the terrain it would be full alpine warfare
Italy would destroy them they have better tech,but again Italys incompetence would end them
Considering they
mario?
Got defeated by greece
Yes Mario
My other caveat is this is Germany without war reps. So no industrial capacity and no restrictions either
but mario would die because the germans have spikes on their helmets
Most of early war was fought with horseback too. But their guns would be outclassed
He can use a turtle shell duh clears a whole trench
Breaking News: Mario shot dead in the Somme
Germany would at least mog them for style points. Italy would be defeated by bad fashion ๐
True
But yet again the German fighting spirit is insane
They would get defeated at the end
But they would deal so much damage to Italy
I would cry if it happened
yeah but gas gas gas
gonna step on the gas
Gas can't touch a 1939 plane
They can just bomb the hell out of the front
What's Germany gonna do?
Send Fokkers to attempt a suicidal crash into an Italian fighter
i remember the fierce italian air force that turned the tide of the war
Though seeing war zepplins over the mountains would be wild
Ik it was horrifying
But still they can deal more damage than Germany in terms of air power
if the war lasted a few years germany would probably make their own fighters and aa that could rival theirs if they capture a capture a few fighters somehow
Though compared to the biplane of ww1 I think it'd be nuclear bomb vs coughing baby situation
Though Germans did have lots of technical advancements and brilliant scientists
Yeah it depends how good Germany can adapt
the germans would have a massive disadvantage for the first few months for sure
but if they hold them at the alps, where its already kind of hard to get planes through, its doable
Though they would have like zero AA
Especially 1914 Germany as idk if air was even a thing in the war by then
Other than zepplins which while cool would be ripped to shreds and turned into Swiss cheese
them making their own aa wouldnt be the hardest thing in the world for them
it would be crude at first cause its 1914 german tech
italy might have a leg up to begin with but germany could still prolly out produce them hard... also theres a question of how they'd even fight to begin with
Well they fought as enemies in ww1
I'd assume if the Kaiser just randomly reappeared on the throne they'd definately be a bit angry about it lol
no like, where would they be fighting exactly?
does austria just sort of let germany walk in and invade italy through them?
I'd guess the alps.
horrific. no winners
i mean, do they even share a border?
they don't
We could argue that WW2 sort of keeps it's course and then there's a time blip where 1914 Germany just appears. Idk ๐
It's a theoretical question so it's up for debate
i'm not asking about why they'd fight, thats irrelevant. i'm asking about where. and if its the alps it'd be a war of attrition that'd probably favour germany
Yeah especially fi the could hold back and build up their industry and tech
Naval it's be a complete disaster for Germany
While Italy didn't have amazing army corps and organization. Their navy was very good
i doubt the naval theater would matter very much tbh
Especially compared to ww1 ships
Yeah they alrwady had embargo by 39 no?
No pass through of goods for trade
if this is strictly between germany and italy with no outside factors, i don't know for sure but would italian ships even be able to reach the north sea?
an embargo almost seems out of the question
The only naval fights that would happen would probably be around Ethiopia
anyway, short term conflict, italy would probably have the advantage. long term war, germany would almost certainly win
Idk. I think German ships entered the med
And my other stance is that if ww1 didn't happen then Britain would still be on good terms woth Germany
It would be inconclusive most likely
i mean, a big problem is again, how would either side really reach eachother with switzerland and austria in the way
Maybe over African colonies?
I feel like they could do some sort of monarchist Anschluss if we want to keep history on point.
But yet again German east Africa & Somalia were blocked by Britain
no, this is strictly 1914 germany and 1939 italy. no anschluss
Could be an ally since they were both on good terms in that regard
anyway, itally and germany wouldn't really share a colonial border but in terms of fighting over colonies i think italy would have the advantage
If we really wanna go crazy with a theory Germany could maybe aid the carlists and help depose Franco to get an ally to access the med
And they would probably only fight on Italian East Africa & German East Africa
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Or as said be on good terms with the UK. They were cousins by Regency
It would probably end like the crisis in Morrroco they would most likely exchange territory or give reperations to the other side
Yeah like an inconclusive white peace
italy annexes Tanzania for shits and giggles (and resources maybe)
Germany would lose some morale but also gain experience to fight in modern times tok
Especially in the African fronts
Musolini coups Wilhelm and annexes Germany into the kingdom of Italy ๐๐ผ
so true, the romans finally got germania
Reform the HRE
But with real italian
Latin empire CK3 moment
These are good questions
This one depends on the year for me
Luxembourg
Only with the Marx portrait
But early war I'm inclined to say Germany. Post 1940 it's going to be USA
Tannu Tuva
i feel like germany if it was actually a 1v1 between them
they suffered like 80% of the casualites to the eastern front and still managed to hold of the west with allied air supremacy for almost a year
Germany was crippled by the time they entered
But their navy was vastly superior to Germany. 1 on 1 land force though. Idk
at the start of the war the US was really inexperienced, at the start of the war for germany, they were running on luck and meth
i'd still say the US army was better purely because of their industrial capabilities
Yeah WW2 Germany was capped by war reps
It's impressive what they did with that alone
in terms of actual training or stuff like that, the US was always going to adapt
Germany would still have the resource problem
Yeah if you dont count all the cheating they did sure
disagreed. i don't believe the reparations had any real impact on german militarization
Yes and no. They were restricted. It's why their economy blew up in the first place. But their "police force" was insanely good
Combine that with britian not wanting another war and they set up germany perfectly for it
if anything it actually kind of benefitted the german army
french high command also basically tearing itself apart in 1940
bweuh
germany got by on luck and bullying, not skill or anything of the sort
I wouldn't say there wasn't skill. But luck was a big factor yes
mostly luck
They had the best military tacticians in the world.
I won't go into a rant about MacArthur now
It's not worth the time lmao
well no
but they surprised their enemies
blitzkrieg in the west was again just luck, in the east it was succesful because the soviets weren't ready for it.
you dont need to be the best to do that
west too
same thing
i firmly believe if french leadership had its shit together in 1940 blitzkrieg would've been a disaster for the germans
They did have the best tacticians though... Even with luck.that doesn't win you wars yes but the Wehrmacht was literally divided up and scooped up like hounds after WW2 due to their methods
Yes but cause the German army was completely inferior to the French one
Not because of strategy
no?
only the west did that
the soviets like mostly understood it
and they also had a lot more experience fighting the germans
We're also completely disregarding africa
they just made moves that surpised their enemies
i mean idk, stretching out your supply lines and pushing tanks deep into enemy territory without infantry support isn't exactly a brilliant strategy
which works for a bit
but then they ran out of logistics because they didnt ever act carefully
which with the german logistical scheme was never going to work out
like sure they made impressive victories, it wasnt luck
it was deliberate strategy/tactics with a lot of individual unit freedom
The African front was arguably the best they fought in these points
i hope to one day live in a world where rommel isn't meatridden as "the clean german general" ๐
He wasnt
idk why we're glazing the german army so much
they lost
they stopped being able to surprised their enemiee
De Gaulle was a bigger mvo in my eyes regardless
the counter to the germans was literally just to have all of the line be solid
the question was over whether or not the US army or german army was a better land force and i believe the US was better
But my point with that was to say that the Germans had shit tactics is also rediculous
instead of focusing on where you expect them to attack
i didn't say it was shit, i'm just saying it wasn't amazing
youre just ignoring the second half of ww2 in europe as well
Run. While you still can
where german tactics were predicted and they got kinda just countered almost every time
german tactics were not the best that were used during the war, all you need to do is look at who won or lost to determine that
Or anywhere I can get guide from maybe it's kinda complicated for now
I'm not running waited 4 yrs to play this game
watch youtube guide videos, follow them and eventually build off of them
worked for me
has videos and tutorials and stuff in pinned
Thanks mate
Thanks bro I appreciate
guys how to invade uk
Well yeah my initial point on that was early war Germany had a better land army than the US. And I stated earlier that I'd put de Gaulle over any German tactician anyways
when if I land they have so many tropps there
Or insert any British or Canadian here
well yeah early war they were a bit better
but then they ended up not being better
the american army was still better overall imo, even if the americans didn't do very much (in europe)
a lot of the reason the west wanted german generals so badly wasnt even to learn their tactics, which they found unimpressive
but rather to learn about soviet strategy, tactics and doctrine
It depends on the year but yes. But us has to mobilize too
Great Depression USA idk
which allowed these germans to like, write books glazing their own arrmy/themselves
which are often the main source of such information
and so you go like wow the german army really was the shit aye
Tbf the really good tacticians knew to get tf out of Germany years before thd Nazis. My great grandfather bring one of those ppl lol
someone?
again, overall better. sure in 1940 or 1941 the germans would've won on the battlefield, but again, in terms of production and not being hampered down by a megalomaniac who let thousands of men die defending strategically unimportant areas, america wins hands down
You need low visibility ships to starve the UK of supply or a good navy. You could Paradrop too
i love the "human waves tactic" idea because it implies the germans must've been so utterly dogshit at fighting that the soviets won with a roughly 2.5:1 (off the top of my head) casualty ratio with what is widely recognized to be THE worst military tactic ever
vis is the chance your enemy hits you
is impossibile because when I land tbey have too many troops and they instantly kick me out
low vis is always good
The real German tacticians left 20 years ago to the US and Canada lol
Tanks
That's all.
And air
i mean idk, it could be good in forests vs tanks
If you can afford
if you have heavily mechanized forces its quite effective to hide in forests and then charge at the tanks/armor with AT
which im sure happened sometimes and was exaggerated
yea bte what the best place like hull or Cardiff, i usally use ireland for naval invade and the go to scotland
sure, but likely not as effective in urban or exposed areas
I prefer the channel as the UK actually has it set to avoid in their naval menu. But hull can work too. They are much more agressive
i think id rather just surrender than fight an urban war icl
And if you can get the Dunkirk to Dover crossing you will only need to manage one frontline compared to two at hull and cardiff
sounds like hell
Urban warfare sucks
Yeah anywhere works as long as you don't get reinforce memed backwards
Here's another question I had. Would the US be able to capture and hold Canada if they attacked now
yes? probably quite easily in fact
But sustained
never played fallout?
urban warfare favours thevdefender heavily
As once you'd push in it would end up in guerilla warfare
Ive been running scenarios in my head about it and the middle part would have no chance
West coast is isolated so not optimal
diseases and the smell of corpses and such would still be horrific. the only thing worse than i can think of is long term trench warfare like in ww1
The Ontario peninsula is isolated to only a couple entry points
Geographically it's tricky
not possible
the US would roll over canada within weeks at most
well yeah, but warfare wise
they got instanlty got wiped out
I'm going to suggest something very expensive, but this will practically guarantee victory in Britain
like?
your paratroopers don't need to live, they just need to lower org while your landing troops land
i'd still rather give up than fight it
i told you it'd be expensive
i mean canada has specialized units, their main concern isnt the us army but more army supplies, people willing to fight
so like double conflict penality for them
Not by the time they get to the middle. Canada has spec ops units
And terrain
canadians could wage a guerilla war sure, but the important parts that america would really care about can be more or less controlled without too much struggle
damn
the us army is strong and will have more supplies, but they dont want to fight, so a powerful canadian defense could deter them
yeah sure ig
genuinely whats stopping america from just bombing them to shit
is this a good fortification
Why ๐
supplies and willingness of people for war, also attacking is hard
Plus many. Many embargos and such
in a vacuum the us army wins against anyone
needed something to build so I thought a Pacific wall would look quite beautiful
but the world isnt a vacuum so
hasn't canada planned out this exact scenario and came to the conclusion they'd fall in weeks?
anyway i dont think we should get into modern political territory
The main points
the need to hold peace
Yeah it's a bit iffy weather peopel get upset
has eaw received any new updates
im thinking about playing a couple games
Mostly just qol and fixes
last major ish update was February 8th this year
adding 2 new nations with 2 new pretty decent focus tree's
Oh what are they
hey guys Im thinking of buying the game but Im wondering is the general edition bundle with 2 dlcs on steam worth it or is it wiser to buy just the base game instead and choose dlcs later?
There's this one with La Resistance
& Battle for the Bosporus
But Battle for the Bos isn't a DLC
buy base game and purchase monthly subscription. It has all the dlc
Yes,that one
I bought base game and thought about DLCs later
What dlcs u reccomend?
no step back
La resistance, arms against tyranny, no step back, by blood alone
NSB & BBA
NSB so goated I added it into my username it's worth mentioning
True
โ๐ผ this can also work
real (cant collab cause no civs to spare
)
Kingdom of the zongo
it is?
and the Lan Kir Militarchy
btw fun fact did you know the hoi discord mod team has the lowest average age of the pdx server mod teams, recently found out
Actually?
Never knew
Both is and isnt shocking
i think vic is kinda close
@heavy vigil, @pallid stone is calling me mean things in DMs.
She is cyberbullying me.
you could report it in a ticket with proof
YOUR ACTUALLY A BIG BACK
Ticket system does exist
.
nothing will be done from a public ping
I SWEAR
Okay solodude
I see how it is
Fine im not telling yoy anything anymore
You wanna be like thst
I hope someone forces you to eat brains for a living
Cyber bullying gotta be the most stupidest thing to be mad about
@heavy vigil, just look.
She is so mean.
IM DOING YOU A FAVOUT
again, make a ticket
Im kalm
I am joking with you.
I know the girl.
Very clam
I am the one who invited her here.
You can see that we are friends due to how weird she is.
Like a blackhole
well, lets not falsely accuse people then :> nothing good comes from it
Blackholes implode right
Any additional wc paths?
Ive tried sirenalia, katzen and dread flood
People know who I am.
Yeah i know him
Yeah like 5 people
he reads the tooltip
hes not...
Shut up, Casey.
Why are you always so mean?
im not trying to be mean, im giving you honest responses to your statements
Fax
Flax
Flax seeds
Are good for your hair
Eat them
You are ruining my image, I am supposed to look like this great HOI4 player who is known all over the community.
You ruin everything.
Why be a great hoi4 player, when you can be extremely mediocre like me
;)
thats true
How are you medicore
Have you seen your pfp
Your bio
being known as a top hoi4 player is a lot of work
im not one of those
for reference
Are you a top hoi4 player
no
He just said he wasn't.
We typed at the same time
i help people who hardly know how to move units around the map know the game a bit better
What even is this image it reminds me of the sergeant from full metal jacket
What does my pfp have to do with anything
I dont even play the game
I love mlp
My little pny
Pony
My little pony
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaa aaaaaa my little pony

I frgot the lyrics
@heavy vigil, can you ban my friend?
I did invite her so I believe I have the right to decide if she isn't welcome here anymore.
I dont think I like you anymore
no
What even is this
Seriously?
Yes.
Dude why is every moderator psoitoon so serious
Just be unserious but serious
What's the green thing next to my user
@pallid stone
It means you are new.
Oh its me
@pallid stone
Pingu pingu
Anyone watch pingu?
You know that one episode where pingu gets chased by a gigantic seal
Because this is an official discord not a random community
That was terrifying when I was a baby
Are yoy also a mod
No?
No but most people here are sensible people
Im pretty sensible
what's going on
What's your username mean
Are yoy sensible too
Cause I am
Very sensible
i think a few kids found the server
Mix between francis and dry sausage
I am 16, she is 15.
Hellllooooooooooooooooo wakey wakey
kids then
We are not exactly kids.
When I think of a kid, I think of people under 13.
Imagine vendrips as old as the dude in his pfp
HOI4 is a military grand strategy game.
Mostly guys are into that stuff.
White beard and everythinf
Then whyd you invite me to this server
Are yoy calling me a guy
Because I thought you would like it.
No.
Don't you like hoi mappies ?
Are you calling me a pick me
i love my mappies
Shut up, I just thought you seemed interested when I showed you my HOI4 gameplay.
๐ข
Bro sigma of iron needs a update so bad
Whya re you so mean to me
Old hirohito jumpscare
Ive done nothing but
Promise you donuts and coffee and froyo
You dont get to be mean to me
Be kind to your youngins
are you on morphine
I CANT believe you told me to SHUT UP
no hirihito portait ๐ญ
Old japan tree jumpscare
I miss the old italian tree (not)
We're you a solider?
Or well waking the tiger japan tree jumpscare
I only got to experience it for like 2 days
Oh wrong person
its soldier and no
We're you a soldier
I was there for the old german tree as well, pre waking the tiger I mean
Im a new gen hoi4 player ๐
2022
you asked that already
just before BBA
But it says you served from 23 to 26
There wasn't even a real MEFO mechanic, just a flat buff
๐
different military community
Do you remember what the buff did, or am I going to have to go looking myself
On discord?
It gave you mil build speed and consumer goods (the old ones, were it was a flat modifier)
yeah
Wow
Interesting
No ticking decision, no way to cancel but by going to war
??
@pallid stone, I think you might become more hated than me in this server.
i never said i was
Thats the goal buddy
so after like 700-1000 hours in hoi4 and never playing germany, what the heck are the mefo bills?
But it says you SERVED from 23 to 26
served a community dumbass
Trust me, I know her, she is not ragebaiting.
Did you get banned then
no
I might be ragebaiting i might NOT be
National spirit with buffs that trade consumer goods for more buffs
But whys it say 23 to 26
so i should abandon them quick or keep going for more
Its supposed to be 23 and onwards
Okay, she might be ragebaiting.
because i was in it from 2023 to 2026
26 when
Feb
March
Apr
May
July
sextober
Idk how no one got that by the point we talked about liking mappies
yeah i love my mappies
HE SAID A BAD WORD
boooo policeeee
Solodude do you have to go now
If they did, the message wouldn't even appear
1312
We need naval larp in chat
hi
No, 40 minutes left.
Okay good
yeah
not that
If you thought I was annoying, just watch her.
Dont compare hoi4 to roblox I swear
It's called automod with banned words. Very basic moderation stuff
She played the HOI4 Roblox game, I forgot what it was called.
Actually did you know theres a very similar game to hoi4 on roblox
i dont think youre annoying, just a bit obstuse sometimes, but thats okay
"oh good heavens 6 brazilian subs sank 56 of my convoys"
nothing wrong with being obstuse
Are you calling him obese
Are you fatphobic
no, thats a different word
I'm the convoy blb blub blbbl
What did you mean by obtuse
No one bullies my bestfriend
i did that in my last brasil game ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
One message removed from a suspended account.
Please do not the ragebait
Exactly sausage he meant obese didnt he?
you can ust https://www.google.com as a search engine, it will answer almsot any question you ask!
Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.
No whats YOUR definition of obtuse
Solodude
I noticed we talk more on school days than the weekends
When we have more time
Thats crazy
@tiny iris
mine is when a fascist converts to islam
I love this mention thing
Oh so like out of pocket
Wayyyy off
I did my maths assessment today
It was so easy
It was about financial maths and algebra
Financial maths is super easy but i hate algebra
@pallid stone, when I invited you here, I didn't expect you to piss off the entire server.
I thought you would be annoying, sure.
But this is insane.
Did you guys know this super famous dude also dropped out of maths cause algebra was too hard
Oh i think it was thw owner of Kfc
wait wtf
Im not pissing anyone off, if they had a lot of neurons in their brains, they would all love me
You can't call them that anymore
Am I the good annoying or the bad annoying
Im the good one right
Depends on who you ask.
The bad annoying is when someone forces you to do something
What about you
The spamming the chat annoying
I agree
Sorry I wont talk
chat active first time this week
All because of me and my friend.
Can I get the helper role now?
most active its been since covid
Hoi4 general
Looks inside
No Hoi4
You have to apply for that lmao
he has
I have yet to get an response.
Then just wait ๐ฅ
well can you help me summon 2 million strat bombers to bomb german children
Ngl you're probably too new here to be assigned but that's just a personal guess
I am not new, I have been here longer, I just left and rejoined.
stay away from dresden
Oh well
can i become a hamburgerhelper
no
I could but then they'll prob ask me to stop using "abysmal dogshit" and that I can't live without
nah nothing changes
you just get a red role
You get to be fancy
can i release the mapuche puppets if i dont "own" them?
If only there was a person with 500+ hours in the game, has autism and spends his day in a dark room, studying military strategy and really wants to become a helper in the server.
only 500
Alright then, I'll apply if you want me to
if only
What are we, new players
i dont even decide who gets to be helpers
i bet solenopsis cant even explain how navy works smh
But if you did, you would appoint me right?
i think itd be cool since you help a lot
uhhh thats doubtful
Navy = Big boat go brrrrrr
you need 20,000+ hours to fully understand the dark magic of naval mechanics
none of you know how to navy smh
hours dont matter or id be like considered a top player probably
The real naval mechanics were the friends we made along the way
real navyers know its completely useless and you can just ignore navy 
this is true
we do it for the love of the game
Sadly true
But navy go brrrrr
Useless big expensive ship my beloved
Kingdom of Wingbardy
oml they were such a thorn in my side lmao
counter argument: five. hundred. submarines.
wingbardy blew up like half the ships i got from conquering the mainland
Civ greed
civ greed ๐
ive never played the soviets ever
I like doing Naval larp as the Russian empire
can you bring back the royal family?
yeah
based
alexie lives
They have a entire path for that
trust
(Third rome larp)
third rome is so pretty
Sausage told me not to talk
also infinite manpower for real
Slavic union go brrr
Guys did you know jellyfish still sting even after they die
i wish i played as the manehattan puppet ngl
Guys did you know black texters arent actually black but the black ink is made up of lots of different colors
I mean, it's not a venom in them, they are not injecting you, it's their body.
Thats why its kind of green
Exactly
I dont even think they have much content tbh
I did a color test thing with the ink of a pen
They are just really boring
from what i read they have more post equestria content than changelings
but i guess idk
I also made a rose
I think I insulted your experiment.
they never got the extra tree as my puppet
But it kind of looks more like a tulip
Pretty sure it has more content than normal equestria aswell lol
What do you mean
I need a equestria rework
I thought yoy were my ally solodude
If I remember right, I called it ugly or something.
Solar empire and Lunar empire are fun and all
Now your insulting my experiment
Your ugly
BUT I need a normal Equestria rework with very moderate tree
My experiment was so beautiful
That is a personal attack, ouch.
Also you DONT remember calling it ugly
You said it was creative
But you've shown your true colours
Im never sending you my experiments and crafts ever again
Ill do an experiment on you
You'll be a real life Frankenstein
Franky franky wanky
im going to take over wingbardy because it made me angry when they decided to blow up my minelayer cruisers
They have pretty decent content
And ill set you up so you get zapped by lightening
@pallid stone, I have to go to school again.
Don't do something in the server while I am gone that will get us both banned because I am associated with you.
And you become an electrical generator
Big enough to supply my phone, tablet and laptop with battery for like 6 months
And the cable is gonna go up your nose
Bye bye solodude
Okay i won't do anything
Are yoy a twitch steamer?
Actually I don't care enough to hear your answer
Ta ta people of the earth
man i hate the afghan civil wars so much
let me just say
i don't like when the enemy breaks through your defence in one particular place
thank you
free encirclement
bring the tanks over and stop battleplanning
"bring the tanks"
cheese it
hold shift when making a frontline
t34 was a decent tank
not as good as the sherman but good enough
huh
it doesnt split up generals to specific points
just lets them go where needed
oh
i knew that
but i kinda forgot
thank you!
but i think we need better frontline management system 
nah ok this game is not for me i got it
i will never play this game again
Welp time to tackle sheep's mod again after having a month break from hoi
that's mostly due to not using a fluid field marshal frontline by the looks of it
that bottom red frontline is extremely stretched
maintain SHIFT when assigning your field marshal frontlines so that it creates a fluid one, you won't get issues with lines overstretching along with frontline changes
btw how much content am i really missing out on if i just dont buy NCNS?
china focus trees and the new faction things
i dont remember if there is more because i dont have it
i have it and im not sure if its vanilla now or not
but you have the new navy stuff and admirals
and also the strategic places
like malta is a strategic thing and you can build more defences there
how can I, as a democratic country, change government in a peace deal?
I hate this arbitrary limitation
any mods or files I can tinker with?
"Not as good as the sherman" mfs when they gotta rely on infantry to take out enemy tanks:
Like maaate
The T-34 literally revolutionized tank design
it didnt
Along with apfsds
surface level tank knowledge be like:
Sherman fans when they fight against anything that isnt a japanese fort or a german light tank:๐
shermans have fought t34s btw
Should I do communist France or communist Germany?
guess the t34s just decided to leave their guys at home when they lost
One well placed HE shell and the sherman is a panzer II
so why in conflicts between shermans and t34s throughout history does the sherman have a 2:1 k/d?
why do sherman crews have a higher survivability?
math alone proves you wrong
im not judging it by its losses im comparing it to a contemporary and statistics says that the sherman is a better tank
They lost more mosin nagants during operation barbarrossa than m1 garands
they lost more people than rifles too
Yeah cause the germans targeted civillians?
more like one in every 5 soldiers had a gun?
There was a whole thing we shouldnt forget about going on during ww2
Source?
Can i get one red army veteran to back that up
soviet training? they literally were tasked to pick up the rifle when their buddy died to keep fighting
Source: my teacher who hates free healthcare
Source?
At least bare minimum send a wikipedia article
change government or puppet?
you can look it up im not gonna do the work for you bud
you have an option to change government
you make outrageous claims and not once did i ask for a source on your whole tank debacle
My source? I made it up.
The soviets had m1 abrams during ww2
Dont believe me? Just look it up
w/e bud
not arguing with someone who is going to dissect every single thing i say because they cant prove the contrary
Back your claims up with sources smh my head
back up yours about the t34 then
Even if im wrong doesnt make you right
show me a single article that says it had a higher crew survivaiblity
oh wait
shoes on the other foot now
backpedal time
they made a lot of them smh my head
dont use a dumb fallacy that can be turned against you
They had better tankvtank capabilities
murican education at its finest:
Better armor

better armor yet somehow more losses hmm
Source is probably heinrich himmler
more loss ratio than the SOVIET LEND LEASE SHERMANS
Have you ever played hoi4
If thats true then hoi4 players suck at making tanks
Hoi4 isnt real life but
What im trying to say is that you dont judge a tank by its loss ratio
Belgian tanks are thr best tanks
Because they have a low loss ratio
crew survivability then
Rwanda has never lost a tank in ww2 yeah?
nobody calls the panther a good tank because it was way overengineered
they call it a good tank because it was better than its contemporaries
anyways im done arguing with you so im gonna go play some ck3
now that i think about it, im basically listening to a dead person's voice by using prigozhin screaming for supply mod
Sure so did the t-34 but it was easy to fix iirc
Lowkey not a big fan of the soviets but i feel like everyone has a anti-communist reason for it, they were basically socdems with a love for violence mate.