I like the us more
#hoi4-general
idle jetty
safe wing
Anyways Imperial Germany time for me
safe wing
I like the us more
Huh why just curious
idle jetty
Huh why just curious
I can use the uk as a bomber area
Thing
Also its hard to invade Poland as germany
safe wing
Also its hard to invade Poland as germany
It isn’t once you get my level
I remember it took me a dozen or so tries to win against Poland as Germany
clear dagger
Also its hard to invade Poland as germany
not really
that's like the easiest country you will be able to kill as germany besides like denmark
safe wing
Poland is only hard if they are in a mega faction in non historical
idle jetty
that's like the easiest country you will be able to kill as germany besides like...
Austria tho
clear dagger
Austria tho
you dont go to war with them though
you eat them in a focus
same with czhechs
safe wing
Anyways I’m playing with non historical made playable ai mod
clear dagger
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3140102724
now to spice up my luxembourg runs a little
idle jetty
Playing the us rn im having so much fun
How to do a naval invasion
I wanto take over Canada but I need a boat
clear dagger
wdym you share a border with them
clear dagger
you dont need to go through there
idle jetty
Oh
clear dagger
canada is the entire landmass north of the USA
idle jetty
Also what do I do while I wait for 100% world evilness
fair horizon
Can't get through Michigan Toronto border thing
Canadia doesnt deserve those lakes they're ours by right and manifest destiny
They'll never get a drop of lake michigan
hollow silo
Also what do I do while I wait for 100% world evilness
spam infra then spam mil
woven gate
spam infra then spam mil
spam civs because they won't suck later
safe wing
you dont need to go through there
You can in mods
clear dagger
You can in mods
i didnt say you couldnt i said there is no need to go through there
woven gate
what are hoi4 special prokects even about lol
habakkuk gives you a slow aircraft carrier and idk about the other
obtuse shuttle
That was a real thing proposed by Britain and Canada irl
iirc the usa tried to make a pykrete AC
woven gate
as Canada you build an Escort Fleet so Habbakuk doesn't have a use
safe wing
iirc the usa tried to make a pykrete AC
Japan tried to use Carrier submarines to attack Panama in 1945 in a military plan that was never carried out
obtuse shuttle
im only using reg and escort carriers theres no way im gonna wait 1500 days to use a wooden aircraft carrier
safe wing
im only using reg and escort carriers theres no way im gonna wait 1500 days to u...
Fair
woven gate
Japan tried to use Carrier submarines to attack Panama in 1945 in a military pla...
what is that even supposed to do
obtuse shuttle
blow up the canal without being caught i guess
safe wing
what is that even supposed to do
Nothing it was a desperate plan that never carried out (no pun intended)
obtuse shuttle
yeah
1945 japan's navy was e\affectively gone so theres no way they couldve tried to sail across the pacific in a submarine AC hybrid
safe wing
1945 japan's navy was e\affectively gone so theres no way they couldve tried to ...
It sank because the design was bad and prone to flooding
obtuse shuttle
i can imagine
safe wing
i can imagine
US captured one studied it and scuttled it off Hawaii so the USSR wouldn’t use it or get an idea from it
warm schooner
how did i fumble this bad
idle jetty
ALF LANDON WON WHAT DO I DO
ruby heath
ALF LANDON WON WHAT DO I DO
idle jetty
I NEED FDR
clear dagger
ALF LANDON WON WHAT DO I DO
idle jetty
Is there a way I can make him like enlist into the war then put him in my b17 bomb bay
clear dagger
idle jetty
Ima do the Manhattan project as quick as possible so I can nuke germany
Also did u guys know that horses are the most powerful unit in the game
One time my horse took out the whole German airforce
clear dagger
Also did u guys know that horses are the most powerful unit in the game
my poland runs can vouch
haughty creek
Are submarines that useful or should I just use destroyers instead
ruby heath
my poland runs can vouch
violet veldt
like genuinely
idle jetty
Are submarines that useful or should I just use destroyers instead
How do I do naval
violet veldt
just put a few subs in there and they won't sleep
idle jetty
And the invasion part of naval
violet veldt
https://tenor.com/view/sabaton-history-wawa-cat-winged-hussars-gif-1548064404993...
sabaton overrated
just
violet veldt
listen to the artilleryman's song
ruby heath
sabaton overrated
clear dagger
sabaton overrated
are you sure?
haughty creek
Idk too much abt naval but if u wanna deter invasions just set to I think its called sea raids or smth
ruby heath
are you sure?
downloaded
ruby heath
are you sure?
violet veldt
are you sure?
lowkey sabaton should just write songs for wh40k
ruby heath
lowkey sabaton should just write songs for wh40k
thats not what sabaton is for
clear dagger
lowkey sabaton should just write songs for wh40k
a sabaton like song of wh40k would be dope as hell
ruby heath
a sabaton like song of wh40k would be dope as hell
whats your favourite sabaton song comrade?
ruby heath
https://youtu.be/WayZ-9_Vbr8?si=dzoTPvxDa3wuRkwE
I have a soviet playlist
violet veldt
is it full of mainstream stuff?
clear dagger
whats your favourite sabaton song comrade?
lemme look through my sabaton playlist of 52
ruby heath
lemme look through my sabaton playlist of 52
only 52? damn
ruby heath
lemme look through my sabaton playlist of 52
violet veldt
I have a soviet playlist
aint listening to it unless it has something adjacent to thishttps://youtu.be/4uDp4k0Oo9w?si=xZQyhsxst1Oqe-PZ
ruby heath
lemme look through my sabaton playlist of 52
I thank you very much for supplying me yamato
clear dagger
I thank you very much for supplying me yamato
of course, comrade
violet veldt
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EDXPNIpNNp2Y33TYfbLWq?si=7adf0b36512d4a1a
idkk very mainstream imo
ruby heath
idkk very mainstream imo
wdym?
violet veldt
"the anthem of the ussr" is just like. everyone and your mother's red song
have you ever heard "Crew is one family"?
ruby heath
"the anthem of the ussr" is just like. everyone and your mother's red song
yeah but its stalins version
1939 to 1945
ruby heath
bella ciao
im literately italian
violet veldt
the sacred war
clear dagger
whats wrong with liking a popular song
ruby heath
the sacred war
absolute peak
violet veldt
whats wrong with liking a popular song
it comes across as a refusal to commit
clear dagger
the sacred war
violet veldt
its a safe option
clear dagger
safe option to what
violet veldt
nobody judges you for it
ruby heath
it comes across as a refusal to commit
f you mean commit?
clear dagger
what, so you have to listen to very niche songs that only you like and no one else?
violet veldt
what, so you have to listen to very niche songs that only you like and no one el...
you don't have to
ruby heath
katuyshas firing is THE best part in those videos
violet veldt
but i will judge you if you dont
violet veldt
f you mean commit?
commit to your soul
clear dagger
but i will judge you if you dont
violet veldt
your heart
ruby heath
but i will judge you if you dont
and why would you judge me?
violet veldt
https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-i-dont-care-idc-nobody-cares-gif-8737514
then why clarify
violet veldt
and why would you judge me?
its self betrayal to conform
ruby heath
its self betrayal to conform
if im listening to it then its not self betrayal
violet veldt
i want what you like not what you and everyone else likes
ruby heath
i want what *you* like not what you *and* everyone else likes
but it is what i like
violet veldt
its 100% fine to listen to popular songs
but if you only listen to popular songs and you don't even take a look at femtanyl then you're a coworker
clear dagger
if a song is popular it means a lot of people like it or know it
violet veldt
yeah
ruby heath
one of the many reasons why i am able to listen to songs that I may like is because its popular
violet veldt
and there is a reason
idle jetty
Is there any good music for us hoi4
violet veldt
but everyone has their skeletons in the closet
ruby heath
Is there any good music for us hoi4
The defenders of moscow
violet veldt
their weird obscure stuff that only them and 3 other folk like to listen to
ruby heath
but everyone has their skeletons in the closet
clear dagger
their weird obscure stuff that only them and 3 other folk like to listen to
i listen to german song about the taliban is that good enough
i dont actually someone sent it to me lol
ruby heath
i listen to german song about the taliban is that good enough
probably not
ruby heath
probably not
i stand corrected
violet veldt
send me that shit lol
clear dagger
i dont know where it is
someone wanted me to make and edit out of it
they do not know how to find good music
copper sluice
what do I do when I am russia and my industry is still too small
ruby heath
yall should try killer bean music
ruby heath
what do I do when I am russia and my industry is still too small
build
violet veldt
idk i just judge folk for not listening to some obscure song from 80 years ago
clear dagger
what do I do when I am russia and my industry is still too small
make it bigger
ruby heath
idk i just judge folk for not listening to some obscure song from 80 years ago
and why is that?
violet veldt
or an unpopular show that they hyperfixate on
clear dagger
idk i just judge folk for not listening to some obscure song from 80 years ago
alr ill judge you if you dont know at least 14 battles from the 13th century
copper sluice
make it bigger
takes time lol
violet veldt
alr ill judge you if you dont know at least 14 battles from the 13th century
okay thats fair
violet veldt
and why is that?
it feels consumerist not to
ruby heath
it feels consumerist not to
so?
clear dagger
do i have to watch a silent film no one likes from the 30s too?
violet veldt
do i have to watch a silent film no one likes from the 30s too?
yes /j
violet veldt
you have to do it or else you're a fascist /j
ruby heath
you have to do it or else you're a fascist /j
bet
worn hollow
guys question
ruby heath
guys question
ok
worn hollow
which dlc lets u assign a manufactoring company
clear dagger
arms against tyranny
violet veldt
idk im a very judgemental person sometimes
worn hollow
arms against tyranny
thx
violet veldt
very paranoid
ruby heath
arms against tyranny
i though it was gotterdamrung
clear dagger
very paranoid
dont check your closet
ruby heath
what no
idk, rextended special prodjects and extended focus tress seem too little for more than $30
violet veldt
dont check your closet
okay frick you
clear dagger
okay frick you
also your kitchen faucet is not running
you dont need to turn it off
north merlin
any pros here? i just started and need some help
ruby heath
this is bullying
clear dagger
this is bullying
sharp sierra
alr ill judge you if you dont know at least 14 battles from the 13th century
dude never forgive mongolia for what they did to hungary
copper sluice
oh I forgot to build trains lol
violet veldt
"14 battles" and at least 80% of them happened in europe
ruby heath
oh I forgot to build trains lol
i feel like this dude is trying to rage bait
clear dagger
oh I forgot to build trains lol
metal pipe noise
sharp sierra
sometimes you dont have to build trains
sharp sierra
when im taking over all the shit i get enough
copper sluice
i feel like this dude is trying to rage bait
why
violet veldt
im no beter
sharp sierra
copper sluice
I mean I still have 100 more than needed but still it would really suck to suddenly not have any
violet veldt
only asian songs i can list are mostly ccp stuff
ruby heath
https://tenor.com/view/based-gif-25384878
Retep
violet veldt
i love that one black guy who sings "without the ccp there would be no new china" hes so goated
sharp sierra
ey 🅱️ eter
ruby heath
ey 🅱️ eter
violet veldt
imagine disowning someone for being a singer
ruby heath
imagine disowning someone for being a singer
imagine
sharp sierra
theres no heaven
ruby heath
sharp sierra
theres another song u dont know
violet veldt
fair
clear dagger
azure walrus
It is done. The New Order holds the world firmly in its iron grasp, with all bouts of nationalist fascism and ultra-radical communism quashed. National identities that could spark such revolutionary movements have been done away with across all of Europe and Siberia. Citizens participate in local elections to select their preferred candidate for the executive branch of their local government, while governors handpicked from the local population by Berlin run the governments of every region. Curriculums are written and rewritten. A modified version of German is taught in schools across both Americas and from Gibraltar to Singapore, from Capetown to Kola, from Kiribati to Samoa. This is unity. This is justice. This is freedom.
Bundespräsident Adenauer stands at the peak of Mount Everest. He stands at the tallest point in Jan Mayen, in the Volkshalle, in Washington, and at the Panama Canal Zone. He stands everywhere in the world, gazing down at his creation and its functions. His body stands 7 feet in height, on a pedestal with his name and "Bundespräsident von die Europäische Föderation" written on it. His eyes never close. His stern gaze never softens. For the unification of the World under one loosely united Government is not complete.
It has only just begun.
sharp sierra
🤯
azure walrus
https://tenor.com/view/toaster-bath-gif-22277891
thats a toaster though
clear dagger
thats a toaster though
find me a gif of a guy dropping a pc into his bathtub instead then
azure walrus
are those all collab governments
they are all normal puppets, i cant form collab governments as a democracy
azure walrus
or is it just lame faction map mode
i used the "Colored Puppets" mod
azure walrus
PT mentioned
fair horizon
chat what country should i play?
sharp sierra
palau
azure walrus
chat what country should i play?
you should play szekelys state in rt56
you can form hungary as them
haughty creek
How come By Blood Alone just changes how the research and vehicle design works
tulip thorn
How come By Blood Alone just changes how the research and vehicle design works
?
What the air designer
Because thats the new mechanic they added in the dlc
Similar to the tank and ship designer
haughty creek
Oh huh
fair horizon
you should play szekelys state in rt56
the who
azure walrus
the who
It’s a “releasable” (you can’t release it as Romania, you have to give ownership to some random country) in Northern Transylvania
Hungarian majority in Northern Transylvania
Alternatively you could play Liechtenstein in rt56 and form the “Russian Empire” with cores up to the A-A line
silk fern
I was just tryna unite the carolinas and got into this mess
olive siren
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lavish basalt
Road to 56 RP
LOOKING FOR ~15+ PLAYERS~JOIN MP1 REQUIRED MODS
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wrong channel brokinawa
olive siren
wrong channel brokinawa
I LOVE YOUI
just looking for people typing in every vchannel
lofty yoke
hi
sharp sierra
lofty yoke
what do you think of someone who dedicates every unit in has army and wastes time on that? Is he actually benefit of it
clear dagger
i killed a million of them in one encirclement and they launched another full scale d-day 2 weeks later
olive siren
just posting a few gifs so nobody sees it
😭
inland falcon
https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-naval-gif-12542253955591881556
80 divisions landing in crimea
late game allies are honestly the worst part of the game
north crater
i killed a million of them in one encirclement and they launched another full sc...
u killed a million, they had 2 milion.
north crater
late game allies are honestly the worst part of the game
the worst thing is how AI just spams division
inland falcon
yeah but i find the allies are worse for it
since theres typically way more countries in the allies
inland falcon
india, britain, france, italy, the US, they can spam troops forever
north crater
since theres typically way more countries in the allies
when australia somehow turn into a major and have somehow have 100 divisions
clear dagger
india, britain, france, italy, the US, they can spam troops forever
i swear they have more manpower than the soviets and china combined
inland falcon
850 american divisions in 1948 😻
azure walrus
three china policy, which one would win in a fight
inland falcon
south any time
violet veldt
https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-4-naval-gif-12542253955591881556
Let them spread freedom and democracy smh my head
north crater
three china policy, which one would win in a fight
the ones with better supply
clear dagger
Let them spread freedom and democracy smh my head
the Red Hammer shall crush them
inland falcon
the south has all the resources and factories prolly
north crater
the Red Hammer shall crush them
lofty yoke
clear dagger
Whats this one song btw
the second one?
violet veldt
Yeah
clear dagger
somewhere i belong
violet veldt
Unsustainable btw
As soon as you fight someone equal to you let alone stronger than you it goes to shit
clear dagger
As soon as you fight someone equal to you let alone stronger than you it goes to...
wasnt france considered one of the strongest countries in the world before that?
violet veldt
wasnt france considered one of the strongest countries in the world before that?
they were using ww1 tactics
clear dagger
soviets to the east
well yeah when you have half the world as your enemy things will always go to shit
clear dagger
what?
violet veldt
but it wasnt the germans that killed lenin
clear dagger
he died in 1924
clear dagger
what has this got to do with blitzgrieg
sharp sierra
blitz greg
clear dagger
he died from a stroke
violet veldt
yeah
clear dagger
im confused where this topic came from
violet veldt
you dont understand the russian war
monarchists
mensheviks
makhnovists (they were based)
anti-communist volunteers (who mostly fought themselves, everyone hated them
from the allies
actually ngl
ww2 would've gone better if the allies didnt get involved in the russian civil war
clear dagger
https://tenor.com/view/halloqueen-milk-spongebob-patrick-gif-6136953
lol
sharp sierra
is that kai cenat
lofty yoke
https://tenor.com/view/tcoaal-mgs-snakes-big-boss-phantom-gif-363919659352244520...
pro chill
sharp sierra
what are you confused about
violet veldt
what are you confused about
what are your intentions
are you just shitposting
lol
sharp sierra
im gold posting
clear dagger
its in response to you bringing a completely unrelated topic to what we were just discussing about probably
violet veldt
its in response to you bringing a completely unrelated topic to what we were jus...
i was bringing up the russian civil war
to compare it to ww2
sharp sierra
i was curious to taste it
violet veldt
both situations had people universally hated by everyone
one lasted about 60-70 years
other didnt even last a decade iirc
clear dagger
i was bringing up the russian civil war
you just said "and lenlin lived" as if that was supposed to explain the failure of blitzkrieg longterm
sharp sierra
ok guys when did ww3 start
clear dagger
it was confusing was all
clear dagger
ok guys when did ww3 start
like a week ago idk
sharp sierra
1948 2020 or 2026
split bane
ok guys when did ww3 start
Last night
hollow fox
right now
clear dagger
born too early to deploy to the middle east, born too late to deploy to the middle east, born just in time to deploy to the middle east
violet veldt
you just said "and lenlin lived" as if that was supposed to explain the failure ...
it was to like
you mentioned like
everyone thankfully hating hitler
inland falcon
makhnovists (they were based)
wasn't makhno like extremely anti-semitic among a bunch of other nasty shit
clear dagger
i said its hard to win against half the world as your enemy
violet veldt
wasn't makhno like extremely anti-semitic among a bunch of other nasty shit
lol lmao even
clear dagger
what has that got to do with the death of lenin
violet veldt
youre thinking of bakunin or errico
red army pogroms
makhno wrote a whole pamphlet denouncing antisemetism
sharp sierra
what has that got to do with the death of lenin
but what about the russian japanese war
violet veldt
makhno lynched you for shit like that
inland falcon
oh well, anarchism is still cringe
clear dagger
oh well, anarchism is still cringe
sharp sierra
inland falcon
trve,,,
sharp sierra
inland falcon
we need to heavily devolve societal infrastructure and order to fulfil my larp fantasy about not having a bed time
violet veldt
no no we need you to die in a war
stupid anarkitty smh my head
your taxes need to go to bombing children in the middle east
its sooo much better than a stateless classless society
sharp sierra
wat
inland falcon
the only two existing options, poverty within decentralized communes or bombing the middle east, there are no other alternatives
restive sable
oh well, anarchism is still cringe
truthnuke
sharp sierra
truth puke
violet veldt
the only two existing options, poverty within decentralized communes or bombing ...
no no i should be allwoed to make decisions about other people's bodies stupid anarkkkitty
in any way i want
because i know better than you
even if you didnt elect me
inland falcon
inherently stupid argument that i can follow up with "i should just be able to do whatever i want because i want to lmao"
violet veldt
no no you stupid bedtime hater
wanting autonomy = being a murderer
why dont you want cameras in your bathrooms
are you doing drugs in there
you deserve to get beat up or worse for consuming the funny leafs
buy our products made from child slave labor you stupid liberal
inland falcon
sure why not
violet veldt
thanks sis
i love not knowing what everyone else believes and just trying to make their beliefs sound as stupid as feasibly posible
you want me to go argue in good faith?
what are you, a normal person with a job?
lofty yoke
what are you, a normal person with a job?
i have no job (;
violet veldt
i have no job (;
Lets be friends
lofty yoke
lol
lofty yoke
occurs
crisp wyvern
woven gate
crisp wyvern
bro got out of the hoi4 mines
woven gate
bro got out of the hoi4 mines
the best place to be
violet veldt
-karl marx when hes mad at you or smth
woven gate
-karl marx when hes mad at you or smth
i wouldn't know i don't read marx
with good reason tbf
violet veldt
Marx said things marx is too collectivist tjo
Id be a marxist if marx advocated for like human rights on top of that or smth
If marx was a liberal id be more sympathetic
And im using the term very very loosely here
crisp wyvern
we are all just a bunch of liberal chuds
violet veldt
Not the "privatize healthcare" shit but like the "(xyz) violates international law" type shit
crisp wyvern
billions must research infrantry equipment
woven gate
billions must research infrantry equipment
me every day fr
violet veldt
fair horizon
Dr pepper is the best drink
dusky burrow
ewwww how can you be so palantirphobic
violet veldt
Dr pepper is the best drink
Only if its diet
split bane
Dr pepper is the best drink
Dr Pepper: Cherry flavoured
Dr Pepper Cherry: ???
unique parcel
time to say something surveillancephobic
are you trans
polar radish
How do you do the support attack where your units push the tile but don’t take it?.
unique parcel
How do you do the support attack where your units push the tile but don’t take i...
you gotta make sure strategic redeployment is ON so the have extra organization and don’t push a tile however they might become like 5%-10% slower
silk fern
How do you do the support attack where your units push the tile but don’t take i...
ctrl-click
real roost
hi chat
silk fern
hi
craggy trail
palantir exists
craggy trail
Hmm, it should fire after an unpause
You have the necessary conditions for this achievement
fair horizon
ewwww how can you be so palantirphobic
im gonna make you drink a can of diet dr pepper for that
fair horizon
Dr Pepper: Cherry flavoured
Dr Pepper Cherry: ???
cherry flavored soda is nasty
split bane
cherry flavored soda is nasty
Isn't Dr Pepper like vaguely cherry flavoured
fair horizon
Isn't Dr Pepper like vaguely cherry flavoured
idk it has 23 flavors
digital sigil
fair herald
Hmm, it should fire after an unpause
it didn't
i played for months after
it doesn't even show in the available acheivements list
It's probably because I started as USSR and released myself as Tuva
i did it so I could release all siberian relesables
so i don't have to fight the soviets for it
craggy trail
It's probably because I started as USSR and released myself as Tuva
Yeah. You need to originally start as Tanu Tuva
solar scroll
someone reply me in help channel quick quick question
polar radish
ctrl-click
I tried ts
iron iron
Trying to rebuild Rome now that I’m decent at hoi4
I got everything but what I need in Africa
kind reef
Someone help
How do I win my wars
oak mantle
I just launched black ice for the first time in like a year
I already hate it
Im only on the loading screen
silk fern
1 state is too much for my cpu to handle lmao
solar scroll
Michael
craggy trail
Just playing late into late game
dusky burrow
By the way, apparently they're still adjusting doctrine mastery gain rate
fervent cape
uhhh is there any decent mods that are like rt56 but not it? I wanna keep playing ww2 but im kinda sick of seeing the rt56 focus trees ive seen essentially all of them
fervent cape
Hist only mod tho
is there any that include alt hist also?
fair horizon
Just playing late into late game
if thats late game what am i playing? 😭
tranquil glacier
Hello guys iam new to online
dusky burrow
ic costs per manpower deployed (notes on mastery, since apparently that depends on manpower in field)
cheapest infantry - 43 per 1000 men -> 43 per 1000 (x1)
cheapest tank - 189 per 500 men / 75.6 per 500 men -> 378 per 1000 (x10) / 150.2 per 1000 (x8)
cheapest cas/fighter - 1700 per 2000 men -> 850 per 1000 (x8)
cheapest medium frame - 3100 per 4000 men -> 775 per 1000 (x8)
cheapest heavy frame - 7300 per 8000 men -> 912.5 per 1000 (x8)
cheapest submarine - 440 per 200 men -> 2200 per 1000 (x3)
cheapest destroyer - 551 per 250 men -> 2204 per 1000 (x1)
cheapest light cruiser - 2173 per 600 men -> 3621 per 1000 (x1)
cheapest heavy cruiser - 2817 per 600 men -> 4695 per 1000 (x2)
cheapest battleship - 5546 per 4000 men -> 1387 per 1000 (x2)
cheapest carrier - 4935 per 5500 men -> 897.3 per 1000 (x5)
If you noticed something funny, it is that it is easier to level up tank doctrines than it is infantry doctrines
And naval doctrines are extremely hard to level up except for carrier doctrine
Air is around 2-3 times as costly to level up per point as infantry
unique cliff
how do i naval invade through 2 sectors with just 1 navy?
safe wing
how do i naval invade through 2 sectors with just 1 navy?
how many ships do you have?
you should split some off
grave sonnet
RT56?
safe wing
change your economy laws
grave sonnet
change your economy laws
Maybe he has low war support
But I doubt
Since he is brown ideology
amber matrix
change your economy laws
once i get enough pp
safe wing
once i get enough pp
good enough
unique cliff
how many ships do you have?
so the only way to do is split?
if my navy is barely able to get the needed limit, if i have to get two sectors then its impossible?
dusky burrow
yeah you have to split
dapper orchid
dusky burrow
bruh
zinc briar
wthelly
dusky burrow
wthelly
most normal soviet union be like
anyways
can you bum rush italy in 3 months?
also i see no anschluss
zinc briar
its 1938
fair horizon
so the only way to do is split?
if my navy is barely able to get the needed limi...
just build more ships 👍
i wish the ai was slightly smarter to push where theres no supply if theres no enemy
tired dune
есть русские кто хочет на рп серрвер по милленеиум давн?
fair horizon
есть русские кто хочет на рп серрвер по милленеиум давн?
hey bud this is an english only server
also its kinda dead in here so
heavy vigil
hi chat
heavy vigil
also its kinda dead in here so
its because its monday
fair horizon
hi casey
heavy vigil
how are you ?
fair horizon
just had tagilla club my head in on tarkov so im good
they got all the bosses on one map in there rn
hbu?
heavy vigil
could be better could be better
graceful kayak
do mountaineers benefit from infantry buffs?
tiny iris
could be better could be better
I tried to get someone to join here but she doesn't know her phone number.
Can you like give her a pass so she doesn't have to verify?
Or she could just look at her phone number.
You have to put your phone number in your Discord account.
So much work.
heavy vigil
Can you like give her a pass so she doesn't have to verify?
i cannot
tiny iris
i cannot
Okay, I'll guide her then.
I want the helper role.
I have 500+ hours in HOI4.
I am worthy.
Give me my role!
I have Jimarkus level of defence skill.
I managed to hold out as Hungary while I was attacked from all sides yesterday.
I am literally a master of defence.
icy forge
tiny iris
I have extensive knowledge of division templates.
icy forge
I love vanilla
fair horizon
I love vanilla
"vanilla"
sudden thistle
I have 500+ hours in HOI4.
That’s not much
grave sonnet
i learned navy in the first 100 hours
I still have no clue about navy only thing ik is steal uk fleet and attack other fleet with planes
fair horizon
smh
icy forge
heavy vigil
Give me my role!
you should be able to apply for it by making a ticket
pallid stone
I tried to get someone to join here but she doesn't know her phone number.
I verified it already you flop
🥹 thanks for the help tho
icy forge
candid plaza
Anyone know any servers that play kaiserreich? Have no luck in finding one, and last I checked the official one doesn't host games anymore.
grave sonnet
Anyone know any servers that play kaiserreich? Have no luck in finding one, and ...
Based for playing KR
candid plaza
Based for playing KR
Yes, servers that mostly play kaiserreich mod
tiny iris
I verified it already you flop
Welcome.
@heavy vigil refused to help you, he hates you.
sharp sierra
burps in face
tiny iris
Okay, I send the message, I better get the role.
sharp sierra
Okay, I send the message, I better get the role.
how old are you
tiny iris
how old are you
tiny iris
There is no way that there is an 18+ requirement for the HOI4 Discord Helper role.
sudden thistle
There is no way that there is an 18+ requirement for the HOI4 Discord Helper rol...
No I think it’s 15-16+
bronze bolt
There is no way that there is an 18+ requirement for the HOI4 Discord Helper rol...
you want a helper role? like to help people in the game?
bronze bolt
Since u need to sign legally binding documents
sharp sierra
u have to sign real shit to be a moderator on here no way
tiny iris
Since u need to sign legally binding documents
That is weird.
sudden thistle
It’s just an NDA
(Non Disclosure Agreement)
bronze bolt
u have to sign real shit to be a moderator on here no way
why not? This is a company run server so they hire mods like it's probably a job
sudden thistle
U just don’t talk about non public stuff to outside people
sudden thistle
why not? This is a company run server so they hire mods like it's probably a job
It’s for free
If u mean that
heavy vigil
Welcome.
<@498446257807818762> refused to help you, he hates you.
im doing what im permitted to do, and that was not within reason
sharp sierra
lets not give him the role
bronze bolt
Welcome.
<@498446257807818762> refused to help you, he hates you.
dang
heavy vigil
No I think it’s 15-16+
yeah something like that
bronze bolt
why not create a seperate role for people who wanna like help people but not as a mod or something
sharp sierra
that exists right
sudden thistle
why not create a seperate role for people who wanna like help people but not as ...
Helper.
bronze bolt
that exists right
I'm not sure
sharp sierra
how do you see the helpers are there none on
heavy vigil
that exists right
its the people with the red usernames
tiny iris
I better get the role.
heavy vigil
theyre all offline
sudden thistle
I think I applied for it like 1.5 years ago and forgot to ask again
heavy vigil
its so sad
bronze bolt
I think I applied for it like 1.5 years ago and forgot to ask again
rip
tiny iris
its so sad
I am online a lot, I have no life.
bronze bolt
I am online a lot, I have no life.
sad
heavy vigil
I am online a lot, I have no life.
thats not a requirement to be a helper
fair horizon
run from the great australian navy
heavy vigil
you just need to give meaningful advice in any of the help channels, and be a general positive influence on the server
sharp sierra
I am online a lot, I have no life.
any plans to fix that or
fair horizon
dr pepper is the best drink btw
sharp sierra
ive eliminated soda from my diet
tiny iris
any plans to fix that or
No, my skin is so pale due to lack of vitamin D.
I won't change it either.
fair horizon
ive eliminated soda from my diet
dr pepper isnt just soda, its the best drink
bronze bolt
dr pepper is the best drink btw
it's cherry coke
sharp sierra
its not its syrup aids
bronze bolt
ive eliminated soda from my diet
actually good
fair horizon
NO IT MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT
fair horizon
dr pepper is like the only one i like
heavy vigil
dr pepper is like the only one i like
its really good
sharp sierra
but i will drink aspartame brain cancer powdered caffeine drinks and monster/red bull zero sugar
take them in for work
weak magnet
but i will drink aspartame brain cancer powdered caffeine drinks and monster/red...
aspartame safe
fair horizon
i just realized i can use a field marshal to do naval invasions...
i dont know why ive never thought about doing that
weak magnet
because you cant unless you mean he is appointed as a general
fair horizon
wrong
fair horizon
weak magnet
U literally jsut showed me the same thing but less bottom
heavy vigil
i just realized i can use a field marshal to do naval invasions...
you can get a FM with the naval invasion trait
for less time spent
weak magnet
you can get a FM with the naval invasion trait
yeah
heavy vigil
new zealand starts with one btw (hes not a FM)
fair horizon
you can get a FM with the naval invasion trait
yeah i was just playing allied navy, not really doing anything except holding java and malaysia
fair horizon
if you have no manpower? not really
heavy vigil
did u check
yes
weak magnet
hehehe
weak magnet
Help me get better at the g ame
tiny iris
Help me get better at the g ame
No problem.
Solenopsis is here.
@heavy vigil, watch this.
tiny iris
Help me get better at the g ame
What do you need help with?
tiny iris
I think i dont know how to plan ahead
Micromanaging is crucial, learn that first.
Bitt3rsteel has some decent templates.
Play Germany first because they can produce the things required for the templates.
heavy vigil
<@498446257807818762>, watch this.
why am i being pinged
tiny iris
why am i being pinged
Because I want to show you how I help this newbie.
tiny iris
Like division designing and stuff
Watch Bitt3rsteel's template videos then recreate with Germany and then learn how to micromanage with them.
weak magnet
im not a newbie
weak magnet
Micromanaging is crucial, learn that first.
Bitt3rsteel has some decent template...
ok i see
heavy vigil
Because I want to show you how I help this newbie.
its just about general conduct, you can act however you want, dont have to like, artificially act anything up
weak magnet
what is this server is this some sort of cult
weak magnet
i have good experience in the game
tiny iris
You have to sign legal documents to become a mod.
weak magnet
but it is mostly downsided by the fact i dont really know the actual minmaxxing stuff
if that makes sense, i think thats a good point
fair horizon
you learn, its a paradox game
weak magnet
like i might make a division and know what brigade does what, but im sure theres some metas
heavy vigil
#ask-for-help-here has some helpful pinned messages and you can also ask there
tiny iris
<#589311099674034176> has some helpful pinned messages and you can also ask ther...
Is my help not enough?
You're so mean.
weak magnet
It is thank you i appreciate it solenopsis
fair horizon
does this even matter?
tiny iris
It is thank you i appreciate it solenopsis
Of course, I am after all a future helper of the server.
heavy vigil
does this even matter?
it gives you a different reactor
weak magnet
Of course, I am after all a future helper of the server.
stop being dramatic tho
fair horizon
are they different enough to matter?
heavy vigil
Of course, I am after all a future helper of the server.
no one told you this
weak magnet
or im gonna rebuke your help
heavy vigil
are they different enough to matter?
yes
weak magnet
are they different enough to matter?
yes
narrow lotus
are there any mods that add some sort of simple thing where if u like industrialized too quick u get penalties or sum
weak magnet
why would that be a penalty
or do u mean like a balancing thing
not sure tho i dont use mods
the best run i had was with romania oddly enough
narrow lotus
Idk cuz like irl if a country spends too much on industry they'd start going broke
It adds a bit of uh realism ig
narrow lotus
Alr I'll have a look
weak magnet
i had this run with germany too, but went communist so i guess thats the easiest thing possible
U see my issue is everything is infantry
weak magnet
yeah
tiny iris
Use tanks.
tiny iris
Medium are the best besides from modern.
weak magnet
also i get stuck in this limbo this is for everything so maybe i can resolve this
if i research something i always feel like its useless if the peak of the war is going to come much later, for example in 1944 as opposed to 1940
why would i use 1940 tanks and production cap them
tiny iris
light vs medium vs heavy
Medium is the best, light is okay and heavy is not worth it.
weak magnet
to my understanding light is for infantry and heavy is for other tanks
medium is best of both worlds
i typically do get modern tanks, i think i was just tryhing to be funny and go all infantry since im communist
tiny iris
Have soft damage in your tanks, focus on soft attack, you meet a lot more infantry on the front than tanks.
weak magnet
who should i play to learn this
tiny iris
i typically do get modern tanks, i think i was just tryhing to be funny and go a...
12000 Soviet tanks was in the battle of Berlin.
weak magnet
i was thinking a minor so i can support and focus on this stuff
tiny iris
who should i play to learn this
Germany.
weak magnet
but with germany im gonna lose
there is no avail to this
well maybe i can try
let me tr y again
heavy vigil
inf is good
mystic nest
Cranked germany up by two buffs and this still happens??
heavy vigil
Cranked germany up by two buffs and this still happens??
sheeps mod or
mystic nest
sheeps mod or
nope vanilla
mystic nest
ah
mystic nest
i even made it so that everyone around me turns fascist and invades at the same time
heavy vigil
just production and supply
mystic nest
darn
mystic nest
just production and supply
i thought it buffed reinforce rate?
heavy vigil
i thought it buffed reinforce rate?
how does that help them kill you lol
weak magnet
it helps them not get killed
fair horizon
my great empire
mystic nest
how does that help them kill you lol
i did notice that i was getting shoved out of fortified cities when i cranked germany up to the max
sometimes
heavy vigil
i did notice that i was getting shoved out of fortified cities when i cranked ge...
thats because forts are bad
weak magnet
also like with germany, isn't timing the most important thing?
heavy vigil
but like their units are also bad
weak magnet
thats because forts are bad
i refuse this
heavy vigil
also like with germany, isn't timing the most important thing?
thats the case for every country
weak magnet
i did that focus thing as belgium with the stronghold network
by god they could not even budge me
i had very good templates there tho
heavy vigil
you couldve pushed them instead
mystic nest
thats because forts are bad
but.. my larp..
weak magnet
yes
heavy vigil
but forts are bad
mystic nest
i disagree
no theyre pretty bad lmao
mystic nest
and thats coming from someone who uses forts in every playthrough i do almost
weak magnet
well
heavy vigil
not good but like usable
fair horizon
never used stronghold networks tbh
weak magnet
why are u gonna use forts without a stronghold network
fair horizon
forts are borderline useless
little yoke
welp i am not going to work today so hoi4 it is
mystic nest
why are u gonna use forts without a stronghold network
cuz stronghold network just isnt worth the investment in most playthroughs
heavy vigil
forts are borderline useless
coastal forts are goated
weak magnet
true
heavy vigil
land forts are like a funny joke
fair horizon
land forts are good in one situation and even then like 90% of the time you can naval invade them
weak magnet
thats the case for every country
how do i fix this
weak magnet
like learn how to do timing
fair horizon
fort here? impossible to break without cas so
weak magnet
sometimes i lowkey just be watching my country stabilize and then i look at the time and its 1948
heavy vigil
if your army relative strenght is at its peak compared to your opponent thats when you should strike
heavy vigil
fort here? impossible to break without cas so
do you really need a fort to hold that
weak magnet
i go in 1955 and its just as fast as 1936
fair horizon
no because its a mountain 
mystic nest
like learn how to do timing
wdym
mystic nest
i go in 1955 and its just as fast as 1936
going to war in 1955 is insane
weak magnet
like how do i know what to do when
weak magnet
going to war in 1955 is insane
no i mean the war would be ongoing
typically last person standing is USA
mystic nest
like how do i know what to do when
for 90% of countrie stop building civs and start building mils like mid 1937
weak magnet
oh
heavy vigil
idk id do only mils as most
mystic nest
that rule changes a lot obviously but thats the general guide
heavy vigil
for vanilla or sp
weak magnet
i civ greed...
fair horizon
ill civ greed if i want to
heavy vigil
its just not worth it unless if youre doing a meme run
its good if you plan to play until the 90s
weak magnet
i have a reason though, i like to use puppets
and building in their nation strengthens them and also reduces atonomy
autonomy
mystic nest
its good if you plan to play until the 90s
i think my computer is the one that's going to make that decision
heavy vigil
assuming most people dont do 21st century runs like me tho smh
heavy vigil
i think my computer is the one that's going to make that decision
it stops getting worse around the 70s to 80s
weak magnet
because i get their mil factories
mystic nest
assuming most people dont do 21st century runs like me tho smh
millenium dawn at home
fair horizon
why bother to make puppets just to reduce their autonomy?
puppets get more factories than you
weak magnet
it stops getting worse around the 70s to 80s
I swear its a belle curve
fair horizon
puppets also dont need to be garrisoned
mystic nest
because i get their mil factories
just core everything
weak magnet
1948 its the worst, 1954+ it gets better
weak magnet
just core everything
i did this with italy when i played the global thingie
mystic nest
puppets also dont need to be garrisoned
fair enough i dont usually run into too mouch mp troubles garrisoning stuff
weak magnet
Something i enjoyed was hungary and focusing on planes, i did a good job there
i had jets by 1942
weak magnet
if you keep nations alive it takes longer
For sure
I mean the lag can get unbearable
fair horizon
i never get jets in time
mystic nest
mp is my enemy
cuz you play till like 60 mate
weak magnet
im trying my best
heavy vigil
I mean the lag can get unbearable
yes that depends on how big the world wars are
mystic nest
i never get jets in time
game always ends before i get jets lol
heavy vigil
more nations involved means significantly more lag
weak magnet
wtf
heavy vigil
but also if everyone ever dies it helps
weak magnet
yes that depends on how big the world wars are
i dont lag anymore, but on my old pc i did i mean
heavy vigil
i think one of my games had like 3 world wars
weak magnet
a part of my timing issue is how fast the game runs early
heavy vigil
with a combined like billion or so casualties
weak magnet
i gotta start sticking with 4 speed
heavy vigil
kinda forgot lowkey
shut atlas
sind hier auch deutsche?
weak magnet
natulich digga
shut atlas
ja mega alter
heavy vigil
natulich digga
#server-rules 1 and also probably shouldnt use that word in english servers :>
west pollen
Tickle fight
weak magnet
oh my bad
heavy vigil
dw
shut atlas
its like friend
weak magnet
yeah
heavy vigil
you should also consider reading the rules.
heavy vigil
its like friend
i know but still
shut atlas
bibi blocksberg?
weak magnet
also have been looking for nations that can expand
something i enjoyed was el salvador forming the central american thing, that was quite f un
fair horizon
play south america
weak magnet
i had focused on everything there
west pollen
Can't even criticize him here
weak magnet
play south america
hell no
heavy vigil
i would rather not action you on rulebreaks :>
shut atlas
oh oh
weak magnet
can turkey form anything large?
west pollen
i would rather not action you on rulebreaks :>
What rule
weak magnet
I also thought that yugoslavia could balkanize, i was dissapointed it couldnt
shut atlas
can turkey form anything large?
ottoman empire i think maybe idk
west pollen
Meow
fair horizon
i love naval supply hubs
heavy vigil
Didn't argue
good :)
weak magnet
what bothers me with germany is that MEFO thing
It just cripples me if by 1941 i dont invade the USSR
sudden thistle
It just cripples me if by 1941 i dont invade the USSR
U don’t need USSR for autarky
meager light
what bothers me with germany is that MEFO thing
then don’t use MEFO
weak magnet
whats the problem with MEFO, im new lowkey new to the game
I dont even want to criticize you for that
sudden thistle
whats the problem with MEFO, im new lowkey new to the game
Ur consumer goods tick up and no one thinks about actually getting resources
mystic nest
It just cripples me if by 1941 i dont invade the USSR
thats kinda the point of 4 year plan, use peg if youre going late germany
sudden thistle
Ur consumer goods tick up and no one thinks about actually getting resources
So ur consumer goods tick up to 100% and u die
mystic nest
every germany game I do I just do economic growth
4 year plan outscales peg though
weak magnet
So ur consumer goods tick up to 100% and u die
Literally what happens to me
shut atlas
is economic growth what i should do
its better for late game
meager light
the alternative is defeat the UK so you have all you need pretty much
mystic nest
is economic growth what i should do
well not really if you care about potential
sudden thistle
its better for late game
Just don’t let that happen then 😭
weak magnet
U see btruh all this planning shit
Then you wont be able to win the war of attrition with the USA
meager light
4 year plan outscales peg though
I mean it’s arguably better for constant expansion but I seem to defeat the allies before the US gets involved pretty easily
weak magnet
Just don’t let that happen then 😭
I need the resources tho to replace it
meager light
of course it’s no fun to bumrush the UK because bullying them in the mediterranean is fun
sudden thistle
Then get the resources
mystic nest
I mean it’s arguably better for constant expansion but I seem to defeat the alli...
autarky > peg
so even if you defeat the allies its still better
fair horizon
someone told me these were good
sudden thistle
All the resources u need are in continental Europe
mystic nest
All the resources u need are in continental Europe
soviets are such a joke that barbs are just done for fun now anyway
void eagle
so much red
meager light
All the resources u need are in continental Europe
I suppose so I just basically don’t like the need to constantly find new places to expand
mystic nest
so much red
i had a game previously
where the ENTIRE worldw as allied
except me
actually illf ind the ss
fair horizon
hey chat someone explain to me why people make battleships and refit them later in mp?
shut atlas
so much red
the fire rises so goated
mystic nest
I suppose so I just basically don’t like the need to constantly find new places ...
you dont
once you knock out britain and the ussr you get autarky and you win
fair horizon
dont even need that
sudden thistle
I suppose so I just basically don’t like the need to constantly find new places ...
Rlly not that bad
fair horizon
just take out romania and sweden
shut atlas
hey chat someone explain to me why people make battleships and refit them later ...
i think its cheaper maybe, i saw it in tommy video
void eagle
the fire rises so goated
downloaded a mod that gives every country a generic focus tree almost the whole world is going communist
fair horizon
i think its cheaper maybe, i saw it in tommy video
yeah he said it was meta but i aint got a clue why that is
mystic nest
downloaded a mod that gives every country a generic focus tree almost the whole...
yeah thats what happens when you turn off historical focuses even in vanilla
everyone turns communist
meager light
Rlly not that bad
maybe not
anyhow I never really choose autarky but maybe I should
I enjoy drawing the war against the allies out
void eagle
yeah thats what happens when you turn off historical focuses even in vanilla
sweden is in civil war for 3 years
shut atlas
downloaded a mod that gives every country a generic focus tree almost the whole...
is communism only good for manpower or also for other things
void eagle
sweden is in civil war for 3 years
no progress
mystic nest
I enjoy drawing the war against the allies out
allies outscale you in late game but to be fair it doesnt matter in sp
vapid bough
bro wth can Democratic China do that?
meager light
allies outscale you in late game but to be fair it doesnt matter in sp
is that not part of the fun though
I did a non historical recently where I was invading the US in 1948 after conquering all of britain and india and africa
mystic nest
is that not part of the fun though
no since rolling through them is more fun than slogging it out while your pc lags in like 1950
meager light
destroyed their fleet with basically just a constant production of advanced cruisers, destroyers and subs
and heavy fighters
void eagle
so much red
British focus tree
meager light
and naval bombers
mystic nest
destroyed their fleet with basically just a constant production of advanced crui...
you can destroy the allies as germany without producing a single naval vessel
easily
meager light
yeah but why would you it’s boring
mystic nest
i hate playing the navy
meager light
do you just play to map paint
mystic nest
so for me thats fun
shut atlas
British focus tree
after european war or before?
mystic nest
the ai navy is hoi4 is a joke so theres no happiness gained from beating them
void eagle
after european war or before?
before
meager light
navy isn’t my favourite but I really enjoy playing countries like Germany that aren’t necessarily naval powers but have so much potential
void eagle
after european war or before?
USA is controlled by black rock in game no lie
meager light
navy britain/america/japan is boring because you already start with a giant ass fleet
mystic nest
navy isn’t my favourite but I really enjoy playing countries like Germany that a...
germany is probably the major that needs a navy the least lol
actually im lying
void eagle
3 way civil war
mystic nest
thats the ussr my beloved
meager light
germany is probably the major that needs a navy the least lol
what’s this need thing we’re talking avout
mystic nest
i love turning my brain off and battleplanning with infantry
mystic nest
what’s this need thing we’re talking avout
as in germany can easily wipe the floor with all its enemies without a navy
meager light
you can technically do a world conquest with all infantry and a bit of cas
hollow oriole
guys
mystic nest
for a major like japan a navy is required
mystic nest
japan needs a navy because no navy = convoy raiding to the oblivion
yes mate
meager light
yeah but my point is I built a navy because I had a whole load of dockyards and wanted to put the allied navies to shame
mystic nest
yeah but my point is I built a navy because I had a whole load of dockyards and ...
yeah i mean its a game
meager light
theres no need but there’s a desire
shut atlas
what is the the best country to play with in the fire rises mod
mystic nest
just do what you find fun
mystic nest
what is the the best country to play with in the fire rises mod
ask in the tfr server
hollow oriole
yeah but my point is I built a navy because I had a whole load of dockyards and ...
well i once played MP and italy and germany destroyed half of my navy and then with the other half and like 5k cas or 6k i destroyed their entire navy
lmfao
like 500 ships
meager light
how did you let them destroy your navy
I mean I kind of get italy their navy is pretty good
germany starts with like a hunk of metal and some wooden rafts powered by hamsters
mystic nest
well i once played MP and italy and germany destroyed half of my navy and then w...
mp is a whole different game
hollow oriole
how did you let them destroy your navy
i broke it in half and half of it was in the english channel and the other in the mediteranian
glass trout
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mystic nest
wholee different game